These DoTs are INSANE! Herald of the Sun - Ret Paladin Overview! WoW The War Within Alpha

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[@LvladenPvP]

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[@Shadowf1re]

Have to wait and see how the tier will play with either of the hero specs would love to just be able to blast ST or AoE as dots

[@LordHypnos4]

The spec art for herald of the Sun is so good I hope that's what wings will look like. It would be nice for wings to look different for both specs

[@Eliteninja007]

Templar seems more enjoyable to me. This dot build would be cool with shield and 1h

[@snackboxbtw]

I kept hearing donglights and it's now my preferred name for it

[@LvladenPvP]

XD

[@Viettzz]

Nice man! What's the AoE range of the Dawnlight dot?

[@LvladenPvP]

Can’t say for sure but it’s bigger than I expected.

[@Titan.Fox56]

Even though its early I already picked out 2 out 4 classes I'm going to mainly play and those two are monk and warror the other two are undecided atm. I would've went DK but blizzard is gonna wind up changing Rider of the pale horse talent node to something like the paladins Divine charger cause people are gonna complain about it. Tunning is going to play a BIG factor in a lot of classes but balance has always been every mmos kryptonite.

[@BigTunagg]

will Herald Paladin pay off my student loan? 🤔🤔

[@txxli]

yes it can.

[@LordHypnos4]

No but his brother Gerald Paladin might he's a philanthropist

[@snakebebop]

Getting a job will

[@derrickhead]

i think pvp way to go might be templar because the damage but utility on herald of the sun is amazing and damage is good too i love that extra heal from eternal flame is nice af we need a lil more healing

[@TheHalbhas]

Visually I like the insane amount of numbers u create with the herald but my concern in pvp is how do u cc someone when u try to kill the target with all those dots up? Templar feels like more adequate for that purpose. But I really love them both and I will play both cause I got like 7 lvl 70 paladins so 😝

[@cc66bb44]

well look at it like this rogues will have a lot of their skill set diminished lots of hard hitting dots

[@wtbskilllololo]

You just rot everyone ofc not sure how its gonna fair in actual 3s but it will probably be strong in SoloQ since AoE is bonkers there.At most you just swap for regular arenas depending on the comp if it is CC centric or just an AoE one.

[@LordHypnos4]

Templar has random hammers coming down so it could have the same issue

[@yoshiguy123]

Man those litttle lines need some kind of animation on them... like some flames travelling or something. Just having a bunch of orange lines coming out of you looks so stupid.

[@soleras5316]

Just wanna point out it's pronounced as AN SHAY rather then An She. Source is from in game voice pronunciation

[@travisshannon9040]

Herald of the Sun for Mythic + and Templar for Raiding and I guess overall content.

[@Name.is2]

They just need to give this and Templar a gap closer; DK got divine steed and the better version too so pally need their gap closer.

[@Modrov]

Insane how they are transforming every spec in this game a dot spec...

[@LvladenPvP]

Maybe? Idk Ret has historically always had DoTs so it doesn’t feel too difference. Plus if you don’t like DoTs you can always try Templar.

[@mooncloud6563]

Nice, excited to level my paladin

[@TheHalbhas]

In rbg herald will be the next boomie spec I think while Templar will be for arenas just my thoughts

[@fionaburns4210]

w key players excited

[@deusvult333]

Maybe Herald will create some sort of 1h/shield ret spec or holy melee healer dmg spec? Hard to say.

[@LordHypnos4]

Wouldn't work for ret your spenders require a 2 hander

[@savitarr1162]

wich hero spec you think will be the most fun/op to play ? sun or templar?

[@Klaidas21]

templar for sure

[@basf7620]

ok so for pve herald os going to be the crusading strikes build and templar the templar strike build

[@LordHypnos4]

Probably other way around, since Templar slash leaves a dot that gets boosted by burn to ash and I believe it's radiant damage meaning it procs searing light, and you want 4 hp spenders probably because of wake giving you DP and that one talent that dupes DS. I have no idea though I'm just guessing can't wait to try it

[@Matt_BakerYT]

Can you do some duels to test out the self sustain of herald please?

[@robusmc1713]

Both of them look so Good, , Exciting Times, Thank you

[@dtbfit2836]

That Herald of the Sun Spec graphic goes hard!

[@RaydanStudios]

Dong light pog !

[@kalasmournrex1470]

Hilarious if we see ret/feral dot comps

[@LvladenPvP]

That would be cool!

[@JKane_88]

seems a bit janky, but I do like the dots and gameplay.

[@LordHypnos4]

What about it seems janky besides the parts that are bugged?

[@JKane_88]

@@LordHypnos4 It doesn't flow as well as Templar, if you play the alpha it just feels really janky like there are breaks in the rotation. Templar on the other hand is absolutely amazing, probably the best sub class spec in the game right now

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

@@JKane_88 I'm torn between templar ret, diabolist destro, and sunfury fire :P

[@RedRagedRooster]

How is there not yet a 2h and shield spec

[@alexis1156]

My christmas santa wish is that they will add a node for templar that makes hammer of light a generator instead of a spender. Ret has enough spenders, don't need more.

[@LvladenPvP]

I think we have like 3 spenders no? Templar verdict, divine storm and word of glory. And in pvp only 2 because you don’t use divine storm. I think a 5 holy power spender is kinda cool and it plays into the new blade of justice talent reset pretty well.

[@alexis1156]

@@LvladenPvP I would rather have extra holy power gen, and use that extra holy power on verdict/storm. Not saying to remove it, just make a choice node that allows you to generate instead of consuming.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

Ret does not have enough spenders, but we have more than enough generators.

[@alexis1156]

@@DankMemes-xq2xm Except that's completely backwards. And you really don't need many spenders anyway. Especially for something like ret.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

@@alexis1156 nuh uh. You have like 4 or more generators, depending on how you talent, yet you only have templar's verdict and divine storm as spenders.

[@Thegamerslounge33]

Which one do you like better?

[@LvladenPvP]

Tough to say because I really enjoy both and they seem pretty equal in power. I think I like templar a bit more though, just visually and sound wise its really cool.

[@Thegamerslounge33]

@@LvladenPvP yea I can’t wait to stream alpha and mess with Templar feels like Templar might play 3hp spenders and herald four, hope that is the case I hate the 4hp style

[@deusvult333]

@@LvladenPvP I mean even the name lol. I don't wanna be a Cow paladin...we pray in churches around here not in Mulgore to the Sun, sorry. I want Divine Hammers to drop these clowns like flies whilst shouting DEUS VULT.

[@LordHypnos4]

If HoW hits on the same level as Elemental Blast or Glacial Spike I'm going to be a very happy camper

[@povved161]

Pretty sure it will still be vers > crit > haste > mastery, since you get a lot of free haste. Vers for higher survivability in high keys.

[@deusvult333]

This guy is a PvPer. We don't care about high keys 'round here boy.

[@cc66bb44]

sigh dont bring upnsomething is overtined. devs here never just bring it in lime, they always over nerf it and make it useless. have you mot learned

[@LvladenPvP]

I always hope we can get a nice balance. But I mean cmon that templar strike bug is VERY obvious/ an oversight Lol

[@cc66bb44]

@@LvladenPvP perhaps but you know the devs will kneejerk it.

[@LordHypnos4]

Are you ok?

[@wtbskilllololo]

Every class looks busted as fuck in general just take a look at WW/Monk tree rework theyre getting some insane stuff not counting the Hero talents(i think theyre not so insane but okay). S1 gonna be a weird one for sure.

[@jonathannoble7657]

I think sun spot was better the dawns light...

[@deusvult333]

You are the only person on the planet to think fricking "sunspot" is a good name for a game spell. if i want sunspots I got to the beach without lotion wth you on boy,.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

nah

[@diegostrossen6751]

Both names suck, but sunspot sucks the most

[@jonathannoble7657]

What about... Solar Percecution?