These FORCE FEEDBACK PEDALS can help you improve | Simucube 2 ActivePedal Ultimate Review

[@Spinelli__]

Thank you for going into details about profiles and driving a non-ABS car. Other reviews spend so much time obsessing over driving aids like ABS even though 90%+ of racecars DON"T have ABS. For me, what makes these pedals, or rather this style of pedal, so attractive is the fun and immersion that can be had with easily adjusting the feel, throw-length, force, and force curve. It's probably not the best thing to do for pure laptimes, but for fun and immersion, it would be so amazing to have all sorts of different physical brake characteristics depending on if I'm racing a 1960s GT, modern F1, modern F2000, an 80s/90s Ferrari F40 LM/GTE, a 125 cc kart, a 1970s Can-Am, a soft road car, etc. etc. It would be one extra thing that differentiates the experience - positive or negative - of different cars. ABS is so not the main feature of this pedal set yet every one obsesses over it.

[@gabox01]

Now I just hope that the competition is already working on similar things. This is the way to go for sim racing pedals no doubt.

[@RingoFreakingStarr]

They sold me on the brake pedal when they showed that you could set up far brake travel AND high force. That alone (abs is nice too) sold me on the pedal. I initially thought that it was too expensive but over time I've decided I want it enough so I ordered one 2 days ago. Cannot wait to get it!

[@alexanderdiak]

how do you like it? heavily considering buying a set

[@alexanderdiak]

@grimreaper8038 shortly after this comment my wheel broke, so i put the money towards a simucube and gsi wheel. i'll hopefully get these one day tho haha

[@alexstavik]

@grimreaper8038 i bought the combo. It is absolutely fuc**ng amazing. Yes, expensive BUT WOW! And dont forget the baseplate, ITS A MUST. My previous pedals have been fanatec v3 and simagic p1000 with brake module and Haptic. They are not even close.

[@RingoFreakingStarr]

@@alexanderdiak I cannot see myself using any other pedal for the brake after using it for this long. It's just the perfect pedal and the fact you can swap between pedal setups with a mouse click makes it very immersive too.

[@avaruusvektori]

Excellent review Dan! This review has been circulating in Simucube in-house chats and has caused lots of grateful feelings. Also new ideas related to the product itself has raised :)

[@kason9194]

I would buy one of these active pedals if it was officially supported for GT7 and ps5.

[@GiosSimCorner]

"What's more subjective than sim racing equipment I dont know." - Barry Sim racing Garage. What some people may think is awful some might find it great. I do not listen to really anyone I go by what I like and how it feels to me. There is no right or wrong with this stuff. It's all personal preference.

[@GrizzleOnTwitch]

An hour? Fiiiine. I'll get the snacks for this feature film.. Euhm.. I mean review.

[@grayzedynamics]

These are such sweet pedals and for the price the technology is amazing. The key for us all is to wait for these to reproduced and the cost to come down. I am looking forward to the future of sim-racing and the gear that simucube has is second to none. It is great quality and does come at a premium. If you have the extra income, I would recommend, but for most of us, it is too much to swallow.

[@arnaudontrack499]

41:40 i don't have the Simucube pedal but the Haptor from Simagic. On iRacing and rFactor2 i start my trailbraking when i feel the ABS. I tried to do the same on ACC but ended by staying in the ABS because i was loosing brake efficiency so i'm suprised to hear that you start trailbraking when you feel the ABS.

[@mklein345]

Thank you Dan, just recieved the SimCore pedal face for the active pedals. Appear to be incredible well made and great looking. Now my task is to find somewhere I can order the active pedals. No one has any and not sure when they will be available. I can at least look forward to my GSR P1 which should be made soon. Take care.

[@scuderiabazzane6064]

Related to clones you mentioned, I would say that “People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware” (Alan Kay)... Simucube perfectly fits this definition

[@Calvin_N_Hobbs]

Another great review Dan. This is the second time I’ve watched your video. Initially I thought it was too expensive and didn’t give it a second thought. Then I was thinking how a lot of people question the value proposition of these pedals vs. a high-end wheel like a P1. The price differential is not that high, and I think there’s a lot more “benefit” that these pedals offer. You have me thinking again. I have to admit that every time I watch one of your new or old videos, I’ve ended up buying it like the densu flag, the SC2 pro (switching from the Simagic Ultimate), and now either the P1 or the active pedal. You are an expensive influencer. 😂

[@DanSuzuki]

Im sorry 😂

[@JallyTee]

Nice review, amazing product but I think my little dyton transducers strapped to the back of my pedals will have to do for now.

[@jarrodclyne707]

I could pay 1500 euros for one pedal, but hard to go beyond that. Would love to own something similar one day.

[@everythinggaming7938]

they have a seperate throttle pedal which is cheaper so you only have to buy one

[@billgulker6187]

My hope is your video will get more people that simply cannot live without the very very best sim equipment to buy these and sell their premium used equipment to myself.

[@heikogehrig]

Fantastic review/take! So the way I understand it, if the car [in the sim] does not have ABS, you get no effects? ie - you can't simulate wheel lock up on non ABS cars? Likewise, if the car has no traction control, you cannot simulate the car spinning it's wheels/losing grip? Is this correct?

[@DanSuzuki]

correct :)

[@BobbyDuwitz]

Can you feel tire slip with these like you can with transducers?

[@BoosiveFPV]

I honestly might save up for one of these. I have VRS pedals atm. One of these active breaks combined with the VRS throttle pedal. Would be perfect I reckon 🤩

[@XRavenxMotionsX]

In the part where you’re trying out acc, you say you brake till you feel the abs and then trail off, but I thought in acc it was fine to hit abs?

[@Fummi]

My opinion is that the actual games are not ready for that kind of technology. My expectations from a ffb pedal were more about getting an acurate feeling of pressure, travel and texture, a different one from any car on the game, as the wheelbases can already provide. This is only endless adjustability + abs effect, but all you feel comes from the pedals software, the game always treats the pedals the same in game.

[@breeminator]

Yes, what you describe is exactly what we need - force feedback pedals where the force is controlled by the game in the same way as it controls the force applied by a force feedback wheel. That's the only way what we feel through the pedals can exactly reflect what the car is doing in the game, like we feel through pedals in real life.

[@Fummi]

@@breeminator thats exactly what I wanted to say but in proper english haha

[@JonFestinger]

Have done a quick patent search (EU, US & Canada) and could not find a pending patent on this from Simucube or Granite Devices. Did so just to calibrate (pun intended) the likelihood of a competitor coming up with a similar but less expensive version. Was somewhat confused when a higher up at Simagic in a recent interview seemed to suggest that Simucube did have IP protection of some kind on the active pedal. All very interesting. Anyone know more?

[@VenturaCocktail]

Patent applications are not published until 18 months after they are submitted. Active pedals product page states that multiple patents pending.

[@JonFestinger]

@@VenturaCocktail I should probably have known that! Assuming multiple patents will likely be awarded then the optimism around cheaper versions might be slightly rose-coloured, but of course there are usually many different ways to arrive at the same end.

[@HexlGaming]

50:45 why is this sort of thing not more public. (how to drive in iracing: "abs starts triggering around 80-85% or so but fundamentally you still do the same thing: you trail off when you start feeling the ABS because you do not want to use it [...] because it overheats the tires but you can use the feeling of the ABS to trail off the brakes"

[@aeroplanekelly]

you mentioned that the simcore pedal plates could be mounted to other pedals, is there any more information regarding the pedal plates compbatibility??

[@actz114]

great review Dan, but lets face it. Many of us might recommend throttle and brake when they cost you like 1500 euros total. After you pay them 4300 euros tho it isnt so easy to recommend this purchase. Honest from you to point that out at the start of the video tho. Im sure that this technology will allow a step forward into simulation when it will become more accessible.

[@DanSuzuki]

To be completely honest ... if I had to send both back I would also just buy tham at the full price, I'm really that impressed. To be fair I'm in the lucky position that I make money with simracing, so it's easier to justify spending that much money on a pedalset. Still - I think the passive throttle is a great move that makes the whole thing a bit less expensive (I dont really want to use the words "more affordable" here 😅) - definitely looking forward to test that as well!

[@alexstavik]

Hi Dan! I just got them. They are amazing! I was just wondering, do you have to configure pedals in iRacing every time i change profles? Trying out different ones before i try and make my own.

[@DanSuzuki]

No, only once!

[@alexstavik]

@@DanSuzuki thank you Dan!

[@mklein345]

Dan, did you mount the Simucube base plate to the P1x pedal tray? My thanks.

[@DanSuzuki]

I use a TR160 - but yes, directly mounted to that

[@Rastex42]

back to the dbox again from the seatmover? :)

[@XBOW83]

I Always thinking in acc you have to stay on ABS for better performance. You Confirm that now you Can hit the ABS but You are quicker if you don't stay on ABS too long, i am right ? Don't have the simucube pedal but have buttkicker and i play with it on ABS on Iracing but i put off on acc but i should be wrong

[@DanSuzuki]

That’s what I’ve been told by all those acc esport aliens 😅

[@XBOW83]

@@DanSuzuki i think its different since the 1.9 Thx i will change my My approach of the brake setting 👌

[@apanos1975]

Hi Dan, thanks for the great review. Any idea how strong the motor is?

[@jcsquared1111]

Quick Q I currently have the simtrec pedals with the mounting base for it, would the active pedal mount to the simtrec pedal plate do you know?

[@jarrodclyne707]

Amazing review btw, giving these pedals the treatment they deserve.

[@heikogehrig]

I bought the two pedal set based mainly on you insights. The just arrived today, but I’m overseas at work! Noticed the title changed. I liked the original one - why the change?

[@DanSuzuki]

Just testing what works the best 😅

[@alexanderdegenhardt7471]

Hello. 18 Watt’s in Idle, what does that mean Dan? Per active pedal? When PC is shut down but physical off button not pressed? Thanks for clarifying. Cheers, Alexander

[@DanSuzuki]

Correct! 18W for 2 pedals

[@lordclumsy]

Nice review, nice pedals, not so nice price. But another topic: how do you manage to see the power consumption for every device in Home Assistant? Do you use a single power socket for every device?

[@DanSuzuki]

Yes, all on seperate smart plugs :)

[@SerialDriver]

Ordered my set with normal throttle last Sunday. Can't wait to try the revolution. Playing with DD, VR, motion system, and soon this, i believe i will have a greatl immersion 😊

[@stimpacat]

Question, I have a Fanatec Pro wheel, I also have the first preorder Elite, I also have the clunky Pedals that not dont work because the foam is dead and the brake thing dont work 2nd gen pedals. can How does one get thru to Fanatec to get replacement parts. or my other alternative is other pedals. Not sure if those clubmaster pedals are have replacement parts. They never get back to me. Kinda abandoned when asking them. they dont have a parts page. any advise. I am selling the original Elite wheel in its box. I just put a new computer board in it from them before I put it away years ago, like 2012.

[@valuetime2492]

Hi Dan! You recommend only brake pedal and a normal throttle pedal?thanks

[@DanSuzuki]

I recommend the AP for any pedal - but the brake definitely is the most important one - if your budget is “limited” then the passive throttle surely is a great alternative :)

[@mrbell845]

Hey Dan. Does the SimCore pedal plate fit the Simucube passive pedal?

[@DanSuzuki]

Yes that should work

[@johnja9017]

What if you're a driver that can't stay on the track? Will these people help me stay on the track?

[@jcsquared1111]

I currently have simtrec pedals would you say these are superior ?

[@DanSuzuki]

Yes

[@jcsquared1111]

@@DanSuzuki Love all your vids!! Thanks for response. The aid in trail braking has me sold as that is an area I struggle with

[@kason9194]

I would buy one of these active pedals if it was officially supported for GT7 and ps5.

[@mklein345]

Dan, unbelieavable review. You are going to cost me $$. Did you mount the Simucube pedal plate to the P1X pedal tray?

[@balkntv]

supa supa good review

[@DanSuzuki]

crurb?

[@garygachnang]

u can't really feel locking on the brake, it depends on the car. it's really hard to feel on the foot u feel it more on the wheel and g force

[@sheep7255]

Its ok that this is a long review, Will from Boosted Media has done reviews longer than feature films

[@glennharrison6883]

Do you have to connect these pedals to the Internet

[@DanSuzuki]

No

[@secularist1969]

Just casually throws the Simtrecs in there…you damn tease.😂

[@KASH-INNIT]

Ok Dan, 7k incoming on iRacing for you 😂

[@lordclumsy]

What first: Active Pedal or Motion?

[@DanSuzuki]

Depends :) the pedals have a chance to make you quicker or more consistent. Motion will be adding to immersion but definitely will not help with pace or consistency - probably the opposite is true 😅 i would definitely pick the pedals first

[@SerialDriver]

Just buy both. Simrig sr2 + simucube AP for the price of dbox alone

[@galaxian_hitchhiker]

1000for both, take it or leave 😅

[@aviatoFPV]

There is a DIY version in the works for 1/10th of the price of these. Can't wait to see where those will go.

[@martinmccloskey4206]

where is that man ?

[@alexsimonson1590]

Emulating the hardware is one thing but creating and integrating the s/w, with a good GUI & UX is another…be interested in how DIY versions address this…

[@thenic123]

@aviatoFPV Any links to the DIY version?

[@thenic123]

This is the next step in immersion for sim racers. For the current asking price(various currencies), players need to be AT LEAST a second faster over static pedals. Hope they're more affordable models in years to come. Hope there's a DIY version in the works at a cheaper price and software/firmware to go along with it.

[@sheep7255]

Wait, they support the ancient Live For Speed? My god, I want these even more. But instead of going broke, I will go in debt if I were to buy them

[@Ki0hazard]

ma ma ma money!

[@mickaelsflow6774]

My question is... is it supported in City Car Driving and Euro Truck sim? :D :D :D

[@briansmith1098]

Hi Dan, why not 100% in iRacing? what a great video, thanks

[@iRDaBrit]

Selling a kidney to buy these. BRB.

[@michaeljoefox]

Can I have it?

[@SerialDriver]

I think best artificial about lock up without abs should be the opposite, the pedal should become lighter

[@soundscaperecordings1111]

6.5k for canned fake effects?

[@claudiobrandao5732]

hello! congratulations for your excellent work and for the way you present us with the different possibilities of sim racing!! I wanted your sincere opinion on which is the best pedal set, the Simagic P200, meca evo 1 or Talento. I want to buy one of these. thank you very much, Claudio

[@DanSuzuki]

Hey Claudio, of those 3 I unfortunately only have tested the Talento - these are great. I probably would get the Meca though - I love how they look and they get excellent reviews - you definitely can’t go wrong with either. I’m not familiar with the simagic pedals at all, but I heard they have some new ones coming soon!

[@RichAbe23]

The sim racing hobby is already expensive to begin with but the pricing on these are absurd. Those defending the price of these pedals sound ridiculous when current pedals on the market will do just fine. I’m sure their margins per pedal is beefy for each sucker that purchases these. The only bright side to this are competitors coming out with more reasonable priced pedals with similar concept down the road.

[@feraligatrs]

You just sound upset you can't afford them, maybe get a better job?

[@FunkyApache8]

No dirt 2.0 : (

[@gaaaaavin]

I dont need them I don't need them I don't need them I don't need them I don't need them I don't need them

[@gaaaaavin]

Also I'm like 20 minutes in and this review is as thorough as I've come to expect from you Dan, good stuff

[@motozfighterb1189]

VX pro pedal review, please! Please don't make it an hour long. I definitely won't watch it.😂😂

[@DanSuzuki]

To be honest I’m not really interested in testing other pedals any more - the Simucube Pedals Are just too amazing to ever remove them from the rig again 😅 Maybe if I get a second rig I’ll continue

[@motozfighterb1189]

A reviewer that doesn't review things anymore? Ok 👍 I will miss your content.

[@DanSuzuki]

@@motozfighterb1189 Haha I won't stop doing review ... just will be less pedals now, that market got insanely boring.

[@TehBrownie]

Give me a small loan of 4k USD and will buy them right now thanks! :)

[@simaddiction]

You are alot better of getting into real life racing with the insane cost of these pedals. Gladly not all manufacturers have lost their minds like this.

[@MrMikap74]

Please tell me where I can get into real life racing and never have spend money on new tires, brakepads, fuel, oil or license fees?

[@Jim_AC]

@@MrMikap74 and cover for eventual incidents, minor or major, which will happen eventually

[@DanSuzuki]

But I don’t want to get into real life racing 😅

[@mikecroshaw9233]

yeah you have no clue how much real life racing costs.

[@wassi5560]

You get this at a real racetrack, driving real racecars: Porsche 911 5 laps + Audi R8 5 laps + Lamborghini 3 laps + Ferrari 3 laps High Performance Taxi 3 laps Drinks included (3 Persons) Catering included (3 Persons) Own car: all-day incl. Professional instructor Merchandise package Premium model car Personal event photobook ......and still have enough money for a gaming pc, a wheelbase, a wheel, pedals and a simrig. Or you buy those pedals....