These Former NBA Studs Vanished…But Why? (part 3)

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[@AndyHoops]

Thoughts on if any current NBA star will become a benchwarmer in the next few seasons? Also, visit my sponsor Future: tryfuture.co/hoops to try your first month for $19 and make 2023 the year you crush your fitness goals!

[@freeguy3751]

3 guys come to mind... 1. Kyle Lowry: He just looks so done to me. If Miami can't get him in shape, no one can 2. Nik Vucevic: Falls into that Drummond and Harrell category. His defense is atrocious and is getting unplayable in the playoffs 3. Draymond Green: Once he loses more athleticism or gets another injury, he won't have defensive abilities, then what is he?

[@DtrJr]

​@@freeguy3751 lowry's 37 😭 the bulls have been great defensively since the all-star break with vuc being an impactful defender draymond doesnt rly rely on "atheleticism" for his quality play and has always been a top tier hustle guy with an incredible defensive iq

[@geraudyoung4783]

Klay Thompson

[@Kendrick_had_a_dream]

​@mysterious2ndguy nah quinn gonna set him straight

[@asvpfern]

That 2018-2019 Griffin season was special. I’m glad he’s still playing even in a limited role

[@frederickdelius1106]

Thos few games he had in brooklyn was awesome and so much fun to see him do.

[@MIGGYME1]

Just imagine if we had that version of him in LA. Clippers would have won a ring. Damn shame

[@tj5180]

​@@MIGGYME1 maybe if the clippers added a small forward which they lacked and team being healthy. I think they would've had a chance

[@himmybuckets223]

They should’ve taken the bucks to at most 6 games. He was the heart and soul of that team

[@BoatsNhoes824]

He’s a Bum taking up a roster spot. Needs to be outta the league.

[@AirRusher1992]

Feel bad for these guys especially Nunn who simply vanished after leaving Miami.

[@YuShawStang]

Lakers though Nunn's stats were comparable to Buddy Hield, so they traded Westbrook instead😵‍💫

[@ND-OPS]

Kendrick nunn could be the next Lebron James if he didn’t get injured one of the biggest what ifs in NBA

[@michaelhe3138]

​@@ND-OPS Tf 💀

[@_will795]

He missed all of last season with a “bone bruise”. Really, really feckin weird. And he looked like complete trash because of it this year. Hopefully he’s able to get some of it back

[@georgefakis]

One could say he became a real none

[@SuperNASCARrocks]

Andre Drummond was a rebounding force with the pistons. Multiple seasons of 15 PPG along with 15 or 16 RPG. But now he’s been traded a couple times since then and his game has completely dropped off.

[@이동동-m9k]

He had those numbers because he had his minutes back then cuz he was somewhat pistons franchise player. U just cant use him now with all the spacing. Plus AD only provide rebounding...thats it..plus average defender at best

[@Manwithaplan2021]

He still pops off every now and then for the bulls lol, definitely a fun guy to have on the bench.

[@blacksheepmiracle1433]

​He should be playing more, but his coach prefers playing 6'6 centers and 6'4 power forwards.

[@AMaidenlessRunt]

He can still rebound tbh I wish the sixers kept him

[@Lodgeitude]

He's still a rebounding beast, he just doesn't get minutes. It sucks because it's the era in which the game is being played now.

[@prakashgooljar5026]

Griffin had injury issues..was a monster in his prime

[@idipped2521]

If his whole career was like the pistons he would be a top 50 player

[@JDUBB2399]

​@I dipped One of those rare players where if he had the ball, he was scoring, and he wasn't just big, he was as athletic as they come.

[@LTGDSP]

Miss the old Lob city days

[@zenmaster8826]

He relied too much on his athleticism

[@brucelau2023]

Andy Hoops bring this series back man !!!!!

[@christos6462]

Damn, I remember how impressive Andre Drummond was as a rookie in summer league. He really just didn't improve on his game when the bigs needed to adjust to the new era of basketball.

[@thebestcentaur]

I hope Kemba finds his way back someday, somehow. And for those saying Blake should be a HoFer when he retires…I completely agree. He’s had a better career than some guys already in

[@airfrance4365]

Kemba is done

[@MIGGYME1]

Basketball hall of fame is a joke so yea

[@mariomm9080]

Kemba is done he can continue his career in China or Taiwan only

[@Im__Andy-f6x]

how could Blake be a hall of famer

[@hotpot328]

why? kemba lives in best area he ever lived before. Monaco is way better than Boston or.. CHARLOTTE?

[@danielvasquez3758]

It’s sad to see these guys vanish!! I hope they succeed in other areas of life!!

[@mr.kwamid-86_43]

They'll be fine. They got 💰 🤑 💸 💲 🪙 💶 💰 🤑

[@calamorta]

​@@mr.kwamid-86_43 That money will easily vanish if they don't build a retirement plan or spend their money carelessly.

[@williefaulker]

As a sixers fan, I enjoyed having Drummond here. Gave us a legit backup option when Joel needed rest and obviously was capable of holding more than his own. That was the worst part of the Ben Simmons trade for me, sure we lost Curry, however you can generally find a adequate shooter to replace another shooter these days( of course see there are exceptions), but we still haven't been able to find a backup to replace Andre.

[@bigdawgsh1t]

Agree, Drummond was solid here, harrell is horrible on defense and his finishing declined

[@Markosmirel32]

As a bulls fan, I appreciate everything he's done for us this season. Huge difference in energy when he comes in the game. I don't consider this a fall off, I consider it gracefully becoming a role player. So many players refuse to do it.

[@Jack-fo2pc]

Who was better for you? Dwight or Drummond?

[@williefaulker]

@@Jack-fo2pc great question bro, so for me personally I like Drummond better. Dwight was good for us, but I believe with Drummond being younger than the white, he gave us more minutes, more energy off the bench and he's a bit bigger than Dwight

[@rhenzokuken]

The thing about Harell is LouWill actually made him better. The attention Lou gets with the 2nd unit benefited him much. After that, he's basically nothing. And correction, Rivers actually played him in the playoffs and Jokic destroyed him. Yes, Kawhi and PG underperformed in game 7 but Jokic ate Harrell alive to tie the series 3-3. The Clippers let him go because of his jealousy on Kawhi and PG during the 1 year they are together.

[@PassivesAbseits]

Remember when everyone went crazy, because Griffin joined the Nets after getting waived? "That is so unfair!" I was like: He got cut for a reason, those guys rarely have a real impact in the Play Offs.... which he didn't.

[@bandito241]

Griffin went from all star to trolling other players from the bench 😂😂😂 What a career path he took 😂 To be fair, he was always a troll.

[@knection1986]

As a Bulls fan I'm always pissed when Billy doesn't play Drummond more. Dude is a beast on the boards and is the only person on the team that can do any sort of rim protection.

[@rayburks7059]

Drummond is only a good rebounder he's not a good offensive nor defensive player doe grabbing boards don't mean anything when you're still a liability if he was a lob threat flppr spacer or at least a actual rim protector he'd get more minutes

[@JDUBB2399]

​@@rayburks7059 If he was more like Rodman and could grab 20 rebounds while playing lockdown defense and hustle for the ball, he'd get more minutes.

[@soupman9038]

I think we all knew Kendrick Nunn was a flash in the pan. He just wasn't going to be that number 3 option that the heat needed.

[@stopabledu]

speak for yourself because mfs was thinking he was going to be tyler herro 2.0

[@soupman9038]

@ximcookinmfsx yeah, only heat fans thought that, tho.

[@tj5180]

The Heat 3rd option was herro or bam.

[@jovanbrown9673]

I think Drummond needs to find his way back to Philly he was the perfect back up for Embiid and he’s always been durable

[@williefaulker]

Seriously, when we traded Ben, ppl were more so focused when on losing Curry, which of course did hurt, but losing Drummond hurt so much more because he was effective when Joelneeded a rest. We still haven't replaced him yet.

[@user-gm5gc1be4w]

@@williefaulker Yeah I hope they can try and trade Harrell for Drummond this offseason cuz Drummond is still pretty young

[@williefaulker]

@@user-gm5gc1be4w agreed 100.

[@tj5180]

@@williefaulker if Drummond isn't the main guy on ur offense like he was on the pistons and Cleveland. He can be a guy who's decent and role is to rebound and defend. Sixers truly lacked that backup big and they also had howard who idk why they didnt keep.

[@thegawdtheynotlikeus]

I remember when I said Harrell was about to be a "still in the league" candidate last off-season and people got mad at me

[@Adam-zj6st]

Make a video on Richaun Holmes. Was a stud a few years ago now warms the bench as a 3rd string C.

[@gerdanbombales]

Mavs should.get him

[@steviebuckets9035]

DeMarcus Cousins not being signed is a shame

[@BabylonGateLA]

Demarcus Cousins cannot even guard me bro!

[@tj5180]

Cousins defense is horrible same thing with melo. That might be a reason

[@KH-ou4st]

now he's gon play in Puerto Rico

[@滋榎本]

In his prime, Blake Griffin was a very strong power forward or center. I hope he's inducted into the Hall of Fame after he retires.

[@thebestcentaur]

If Chris Webber made it, no reason why he shouldn’t

[@kimemia_maina]

Blake Griffin is still a damn useful veteran role player

[@NebraskaPoliceDepartment]

U know he will

[@OpaqueNihilist]

Maybe. If Shawn Kemp, Alvin Robertson, Tom Chambers and Kevin Johnson aren't in I don't see why Blake should be.

[@lakernation26]

@@thebestcentaur Webber is better than griffin lmaoo

[@calmfy18]

Had drummond played in the 80s-90s he wouldve been a max level player

[@cubenba6046]

So Kemba did not just vanish out of nowhere, he had a very critical Knee injury that pretty much forced him to end his career.

[@jaguareagle7026]

Eric Paschall needs to be talked as well he was an important piece in Warriors but now he is nowhere to be seen.

[@tj5180]

He got traded to the jazz and fell off after having a decent season with the warriors then got send to the wolves but hasn't played a game.

[@christianrollman3006]

Celtics fan here, I can assure you Blake has become one of the favorite players for this team and fan base. Everyone loves him. And he seems to be enjoying himself. Plus he’s about to finally get that title baby ☘️☘️

[@thejetkeeper]

aged poorly

[@Kamrose24]

I hope Kendrick nunn can bounce back

[@53ddisme]

Another banger Andy Hoops video lesgooo

[@brucelau2023]

All right the 3rd video of this series This is truly very intriguing and a great trilogy

[@paprikafinesser]

Well you can add my man John Wall to the list🤷‍♂

[@cleanbowled1767]

One of the most better tbasketball videos that has come across my screen lately!!!

[@emsonvergado1066]

Correction: Kemba wasn't traded to the Knicks, he signed there after being bought out by OKC

[@Skipppp8705]

Hi Andy thanks for the drop.

[@handbanana5555]

your videos are so factual punctual and original. oh okay half a mil.. almost!!! congrats on that, last i checked i thought you had less maybe i just misread lmao

[@theblazingblaziken1951]

Honestly im surprised that teams were still signing Montraz Harrell. I thought it was common knowledge by 2016 that high energy guys with no other upside won't get you anywhere, by 2019 the poster child of this role Kenneth Faried was already out the league and he was more versatile than Traz ever was 😂

[@Tikitackfouls]

Tbf carried got mad at the rockets he didn't get playing time in the playoffs and they mutually agreed to part ways basically after that

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

The legend himself Andy hoops 🔥🔥🐐 so inspirational

[@chrismunoz999]

3:23 he was a "Nunn factor "😂😂

[@Joshua-uw7wm]

What I don't think most people tend to realize, whether it be a player or a spectator, is that when it comes to a knee injury or an ankle injury basketball will not be a benefit to the healing of it in any way only make it worse and one's own performance cannot reach what it once was. There is an old saying when I was growing up " you only have so many jumps left " now they said that concerning don't focus on dunking but jump shots because the game of basketball is rough on your knees and ankles. And this is a big problem with AAU basketball and just a professional mindset being applied to every aspect of the sport starting soo young. The constant running and jumping on the hardwood or pavement is not a good thing especially when you are giving very little time to rest and recuperate. Flesh is not like metal nor man like machine.

[@vinnye930]

Pistons never viewed Drummond as a player to build around? I disagree, they gave him a big contract. I think they realized it was a mistake eventually, but they viewed him as a foundational piece for a while, and van gundy tried to make him the centerpiece of their offense

[@vinnye930]

Also, Harrell playing more than zubac was one of the main reasons the clippers blew that series to the Denver. When zubac was on the floor their defensive rating was significantly better. People were actually criticizing doc for not benching Harrell completely. Harrell basically only scored off of pick and rolls with Lou Williams. They had great chemistry. But an undersized big who's terrible defensively and can only score on the roll is like one of the least valuable types of players in the league

[@vortexluigirosalina5557]

It sucks that these players never returned to their Superstar form

[@_will795]

Drummond has one of the worst hands I’ve seen lol. He made catching a basketball with two hands look tough lmao

[@calamorta]

5:00 he reached 9k rebounds sooner than Bill Russell and Wilt? Wow

[@maximusorbis2548]

Drummond has always been overrated, his stats never displayed his actual impact and weaknesses

[@derrickblack3929]

Facts

[@NoahEurich]

As someone who had to watch Drummond for almost a decade, he was never a stud. His numbers were padded to hell and back. Whether he’s on the court or not never makes any difference on a teams chances of winning.

[@jayfiggs4656]

I believe Drummond play very well in Cleveland and was actually trying to make an effort to createhis own offensive shots. But just couldn't keep up the pace of the younger Cavs. Thus inserting Allen into the lineup and the rest was history.

[@carayj]

Kemba leaving Charlotte was supposed to make him a star in the league but his time with the Celtics was a bust.

[@brucelau2023]

Blake Griffin was an absolute monster in his prime , sucks those injuries hurt him in Detroit

[@aznpikachu215]

Drummond is what some people considered those stats..Empty calories. What about Ben Gordon?

[@nilsbeckmann1033]

You got to cover Avery Bradley. i loved his game with the celtics... but now, it is sad to see him out

[@guesswhonot1620]

This is why I cringe whenever people try to say that Udonis Haslem takes up a roster spot. The Heat have taken in more G-League players over the last several years than any other team, by far. Just to see what they could do. Also the last time I checked, Zion finished second in ROTY voting, not Nunn.

[@K1NGAzii]

love this series

[@meep7895]

i couldve sworn i remember hearing montrezl got too many minutes during the 2020 playoffs, not too few

[@jaxdakid5598]

idk why nunn would’ve won rookie of the year as a 2nd year player?? lots of these seem like players who didn’t add anything in a few years. all of these people didn’t vanish? the list seems like it’s just showing who doesn’t get minutes and the direction of the nba

[@oso1flygamer436]

Bruh Blakes career should’ve been better winning wise like this man should have at least 2 rings. That team was vary good. But one thing about Blakes career we got to see his peak. Look at Zion we haven’t even seen his peak yet and he’s already having health issues. That’s never a good sign

[@Blairskirock]

Harrell is a 4 despite his lack of shooting. That man is not good enough at big man things to be a center

[@drabalisallat2188]

Blake didn't vanish at all, he just knows his limitations, he was injury prone yes, but didn't step down as the guy until 30 and Drummond is still in the league in another role so I don't see any problem with that either.

[@blakedonnelly5583]

Plz make a vid about the wild career of JR Smith’s

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

Jaylen Brown your next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏

[@jbug1979]

He's been "working" with his personal trainer, Sarah 😂

[@Mula_Music]

I didn’t even know kemba was out of the nba that’s crazy he’s one of those underrated players I grew up watching 😢

[@tj5180]

He was fairly rated In Charlotte. It's just that his team was horrible and the hornets front office was shit. Going to boston were the early red flags

[@sieusaopolo10]

As a Bulls fan, Drummond is very inconsisten; some game he's having amazing performance and help the team to win, but then he also some game where he had zero production, miss shots, out rebounds, other teams know that and keep attacking him whenever he in the post

[@danielvasquez3758]

At the very least, they got life changing money and hopefully they didn’t blow it all away yet!!

[@ItsWill21]

Gonna do a video about players fighting their own teammates now?. lol

[@chrisvas65]

Gonna stick with you Andy .. some other KZbinr out here calling bench players “STARS” 😂

[@jarettlevine]

devonte grahm and allonzo trier we’re both good for a year

[@jazzprincemusic]

What happened to monta Ellis?

[@underpressure07140]

At least Drummond can still find a role in the league, coming off the bench to provide some size and paint presence

[@jakelaponder7565]

Drummond and nunn always sucked, nunn especially was bassically a non factor come playoff time, dude was bassically the reason Dragic got paid in 2019 because he was unplayable.

[@b.amarille6502]

Andre Drummond is a funny guy.Especially his lay ups

[@ajthehandle9126]

Griffin and Drummond still give u good minutes

[@saby568]

Andre damn near gets a double double in 15 minutes of playing time

[@Disneymagic24]

Problem with Drummond is he just didn’t translate to wins. He can get 15 and 15 a game but teams just never win with him

[@tj5180]

Dragic was a big factor in 2020 for the heat in the bubble also was a all star caliber on the suns but his case is probably injuries and age.

[@otepdotnet]

its still crazy that drummond overcame his weaknesses just by his elite physical attributes

[@steezy6650]

hey mate love the vids but as a celtics fan blake is more important than most see he starts when needed he hustles and makes winning plays yes he’s not the same as he was years ago but a good locker room vet who knows his role

[@DMitch-ny3jb]

Hey Andy I’m just curious do any sort of modulation to your voice on your videos?

[@RandomRay1]

Andre Drummond was a rebounding machine and a really good player for the pistons and even for the cavaliers for a year or two but it is crazy how he was forgotten after he got traded from the pistons

[@Silver-lo6db]

He was doing it in an empty team during his cavs days to be fair. And he was really not good for the lakers cause they asked too much of him. He can’t really defend and he has a tendency to see himself way better than he is

[@RandomRay1]

@@Silver-lo6db yea that’s when his play started to vanish when he was with the lakers and now he’s even lucky to even get any minutes at all these days

[@Manwithaplan2021]

As a bulls fan, he can be fun to watch every now and then lol. Still a rebounding maniac.

[@ThatLampTho]

nunn was "nunn"-factor ☠ can't tell if that was on purpose or not 😂

[@frederickdelius1106]

"And warms the bench for an absolutely trash chicago bulls team". Damn andy that was brutal bro.

[@derrellevans1092]

Brandon Jennings and Derrick Rose and Kevin Love

[@andreyorlov33]

Lol Andrè Drummond was never good. Most of his rebounds came off his own missed lay ups. You miss a layup at the rim and put it back you get a rebound and still shoot 50% 🤷🏻‍♂️ dude has hands of stone

[@mistermann3225]

This.

[@AirRusher1992]

Still sitting in the docks waiting for the videos about the pre-LeBron Cavs and the new CBA.

[@jiby911]

Never forget when Andre Drummond dated Jenette McCurdy 😏

[@lovehenegan6064]

Montrez needs to play the forwad position to be valuable. I never liked him at center

[@theuniquez9342]

Andre drummond could still be a starter I think, Vucevic is not good on defense

[@Paperroute_p]

So that’s where 2k got that animation 5:45

[@PricefieldPunk]

That sad thing is most of these guys got exposed once they came to the Lakers

[@ninobrown90]

love your videos hate the ads in the beginning that's why I pay for premium

[@dontedillard271]

Blake still deserves to be a first ballot hall of fame for his crazy highlights when he was in his prime

[@airfrance4365]

He's a HOF but not first ballot

[@otepdotnet]

kemba and blake had had their moments already

[@viniciusrestelli1110]

"Nunn was a complete non-factor" I see what you did there lol

[@williamblake7386]

Andy is so smart

[@jazzprincemusic]

Whatever happened to Danny granger?

[@Gmoney-PGE]

Andre Drummond, doing his thing

[@mariomm9080]

You forgot to mention John Wall , honestly i don`t even know about Nunn, or Montrezz Harell so i skipped their parts in this video

[@animefanatic2674]

Nunn got a name drop in a Polo G song and just fell off hard😭

[@gotsteeze92]

As a Bulls fan, "warms the bench for the Chicago Bulls" is pretty misleading. A lot of us enjoy having Drummond and he's given us some good minutes.

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

Andre Drummond old center style no improvement his games bad ERA hi play 😅😂😅😂😅

[@brunocaboclosucksass68]

Montrezl Harell is basically how Kenneth Faried would pan out if he played longer (for those people asking why he’s gone and could still be a contributing piece) basically a one way man all they could do is rebound and dunk on the offensive end al though Kenneth was a descent screen outlet

[@andersonlebrun8370]

If you watch him Harrell is not good anymore yeah he can score a little but he can’t jump as high and has lost a step. More athletic teams take advantage of him as well which is why he is benched. Doc made him the backup Center for half the season before benching him for the same issues like Andy mentioned and whenever he would come on for embiid teams would go on 7-0runs

[@KASHYAP772]

Say what you will, but Drummond is probably a plus bench big in this league. Rebounding wins games, and you can absolutely stomach his offensive game when you need 5 quick boards in 10 minutes, which he does.

[@Kevin-zg9eg]

Andy time to do an update bro

[@hardhitter1016]

Blake griffin 😮😮😮😮crazy a bench warmer

[@rubyruff2713]

Blake griffin was a monster in la clippers