These Marvel Secret Lairs Are Expensive

[@Buchaus]

I'm so sad that they didn't use Halle Berry's terrible X-Men quote on Lightning Bolt for the Storm drop. "Do you know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else."

[@jamesfilyawDigginGabe]

Terrible?! That's amazing! Lmao, that's such a classic cheesy line!

[@MHilstrom]

That whole scene was so awkward 😂 Toad is so awkward in that movie in general to be fair. Well, I guess all the characters are awkward in that movie.

[@No_Lucks_Given]

That's a great quote. You're crazy.

[@markbrierley6367]

It's worse than it was supposed to be. She was supposed to say something similar multiple times before but all those lines got cut from the edit.

[@sosukelele]

​@@markbrierley6367wasn't Toad supposed to be giving frog facts or am I getting that backwards?

[@pyredynasty]

Achievement: Fastball Special. Have Captain America throw Wolverine.

[@iansvoice1]

@3:20 Black Panther does not remove any other counters besides +1/+1 counters. It’s explicitly said on the card. Would have been cool to pay 3 mana to remove the ice counters from Dark Depths, but, alas, we cannot.

[@JovialRoger]

Yeah, between this and forgetting that the free commander spells came from Ikoria (C20), I think it's safe to say he got this out pretty rushed

[@Jonqen]

​@@JovialRogerYeah thats bad 😅

[@altromonte15]

It would actually be interesting if you could move all counters. T3 marit lage in selesnya would be funny. As it is, he's a super generic selesnya +1+1 counters card like two dozen others

[@m1gr3nA]

just use nesting grounds. you dont need more than one indestructible counter moved at a time anyway. :)

[@bookerplayer01]

Sometimes reading the card doesn't explain the card?

[@kennethacuna9996]

remember kids, if you are only playing EDH.. you can proxy anything

[@anactualopinion868]

Big Facts!a

[@thebigsquig]

Always proxy 100. These card images are all online. They’re already free for everyone.

[@frankskive]

That depends on your lgs or play group

[@Wentyl91]

I'm only playing with friends at home and yup, you definitely can! Spent around 200$ on an inkjet printer and a laminator, made 12 or so decks for myself and friends. Raw materials for one deck come out to around 2-3$, takes about one hour to cut the cards out. I still buy precons every now and then, but can't imagine myself spending so much money on those overpriced products.

[@CarrollLiddell]

​@@frankskiveImagine a playgroup that won't let you proxy....

[@Arcturius01]

Team America pips being printed in the correct order instead of Jeskai is very satisfying.

[@jakeelephant006]

This was the order they did it on the original commander product for Ruhan and Zedruu

[@Chris-vk8lw]

I might get Cap to replace Pramikon as the lead of my Jeskai deck. I likely won't because I'd have to completely revamp the deck called William DeWall.

[@MasterManSparky]

@@Chris-vk8lw now i want to0 see the decklist

[@Chris-vk8lw]

@@MasterManSparky it's 32 walls, Approach, fireball, comet storm, high alert, Rammas Echor, Walking Bulwark, Rasaad yn Bashir, Perimeter Captain, Colossus of Akros, sphere of safety, propaganda, ghostly prison, angelic chorus, Aetherflux reservoir, and budget removal and card draw. I believe the entire deck is under $100.

[@Hundo_Mo]

5:38 Dont forget we got a print of Mjolnir in the Assassin Creeds set. So you can create the greatest MCU moment by having Cap equip and throw Mjolnir on the battlefield!

[@christopherb501]

Or use Toralf

[@williamsimkulet7832]

Remember $20 Guild Kits? If WOTC put out $20 Marvel "Brawl" decks, I'd be all in. But they didn't, so these are cards I won't ever own. At least not until The List MTG equivalents?

[@01MEGABOB]

Oh man I miss those guild kits. After being away from the game for some time, it was such a good product to break back in with. I’ve since sold or traded the bangers in my kits, but I still have the lands and I enjoy seeing those set symbols still.

[@bartoszganko5290]

I am like 99% sure these will appear in one of future marvel sets with different art not on the list

[@bradcallahan3546]

Or don’t? Go play gay marvel games if you want these characters. None of these belong in mtg universe

[@01MEGABOB]

@@bradcallahan3546 universes beyond is pretty entrenched at this point. I didn’t want it either but there’s nothing we can do about it at this point.

[@treasuredcollectibles]

Disney needs their (big) cut

[@BlueMage-adin]

the "Mohawk" Storm was from the Life/Death era, paired with Fall of the Mutants event.

[@BalooSJ]

She got the mohawk a little before that, when she and the X-Men were over in Japan for Wolverine's aborted wedding and she hooked up with one of Wolverine's exes and learned to let loose a little. Fall of the Mutants was where she returned to a more classic hairstyle, after being exiled to a primeval world for a year or so along with Forge.

[@lus-an-tsalainn]

With characters this iconic they should definitely be offering a "character bundle" to get the 5 creatures and not their feature cards. It'd also be a good litmus for whether people would be into more characters being pulled from shows as opposed to references on other cards.

[@pjdietrich4470]

Storm looks like it is going to be too strong for casual but not quite strong enough for cedh which really stinks to be in that area

[@seth2077]

Broseph, you dont need to apologize. You're one of the best MTG content creators, content creation takes a ton of time and effort, and we're here for you, not the polish (though i love and respect that you care about the quality of your content!).

[@PleasantKenobi]

Appreciate the kind words. :)

[@TheAngelRaven]

Storm is to Temur what Nadu is to Simic: Just goodstuff.

[@Azeria]

I’m 100% going to buy the Storm card… if and when they release a Universes Within version.

[@PleasantKenobi]

Good luck. Fingers crossed.

[@dannybeane2069]

That's the neat thing, you're not.

[@Azeria]

@@dannybeane2069 if that’s the case… oh well, there’s like 16,000 other cards I could put in my Kalamax deck instead

[@richardmolano5538]

I am terrified of Storm. She truly is an omega level commander 😮

[@BalooSJ]

It's completely in character for Storm to be the most powerful card in the mini-set.

[@BeetleBuns]

magnetic mountain comes highly recommended...

[@DerekScottBland]

Remember, you can’t say reprint cards won’t have value when they’re attached to a popular IP. Princess Bride Secret Lair was print to demand and those cards are generally worth more than their regular counterparts.

[@petrri323]

They don’t do print to demand any more though. Secret lairs are for whales only now.

[@BingeThinker1814]

Captain America isn't really a Voltron commander. He's a burn win-con combo piece in the command zone that wins you the game once you get infinite mana.

[@JoshWhite-v6t]

@13.34 Sadly you can't choose new modes for the copies. Gatherer ruling for twincast: "If a spell that's copied is modal (that is, it says 'choose one --' or the like), the copy will have the same mode. A different mode cannot be chosen."

[@damien4197]

On the other hand, if this is happening, you have you commander in play...

[@as95ms98]

Hewlett-Packard Master's is looking more and more valuable with every unique Secret Lair release!

[@del132]

What's the set symbol so I know what to look for on tcgplayer?

[@as95ms98]

​@@del132Look for the printer symbol! The cards are eco-friendly too since they often use recycled paper or spare tokens/lands as the backing rather than a real card back!

[@chaboki]

​@@del132pretty sure it's a joke about getting a printer to proxy cards lol

[@del132]

@@chaboki I should've included an /s. I just figured the sarcasm was evident.

[@MissAshley42]

There is no sound (read: consumer-friendly) reason for this to be limited. None. Nada. Zilch. I can't imagine Disney arranged the contract in such a way that Hasbro somehow loses money by printing more.

[@01MEGABOB]

They’re making it limited so they don’t crash the market on the reprints. It’s literally just to make sure the secondary market stays high so people feel like they’re getting a deal buying these.

[@refundreplay]

gAmE pIeCeS!

[@sebastian55112]

Nope its a shame they did this

[@spamtonto]

Because people aren't going to keep buying Magic if none of it retains any value, routinely falls below distribution for years, and any cards that are worth $10 are proxied to death with pride from the community of players that hate the cards they collect and play.

[@Cthuski]

​@01MEGABOB I feel like the recent commander banning debacle should have highlighted the importance of managing the secondary market for the overall health of the game. Do you like having an lgs?

[@Not3Raccoon]

Captain America with a sunforger and some untapped mana sounds so fun

[@monkeyjamzter]

Would have been way bigger to have these as precons

[@WCOBDisorder]

There will definitely also be precons. There's other products coming out.

[@The_Sharktocrab]

But that would be consumer friendly, so wotc couldn't do it

[@IneptCardCollector]

The are?

[@turtleanton6539]

Indeed😊

[@cedrikDGAF]

can't wait to play solitaire with Storm

[@jolteon345]

I’d have no problem with WotC putting out a secret lair that has special artwork alongside the set that has the cards in it. I don’t like WotC putting out a set of secret lairs that cost $40 each with no indication that the new cards will be printed in a proper set. For all we know, WotC could be intending to wait 5 years to make in-universe versions of the cards, thus creating FOMO. I might pick up the Wolverine one, it’s the only one that I’m really interested in, but I probably won’t get it.

[@matteobagni1235]

Proxy them

[@tipulsar85]

Kind of surprised that there isn't a Thousand Year Storm in the Storm lair. Then again there's the bonus card.

[@epsleon]

You'll be getting a generic Elf dork and you'll like it. 1 in 100,000 will get an Ulalek reskinned as Thanos.

[@tipulsar85]

@@epsleon Actually the bonus card for the D&D cover art lair was a good example in terms of recent flavor wins in terms of bonus cards that fit the theme AND a decent card to get. Dark Deal with the 5.5 DMG cover sketch. And Marvel has a bit of an interesting history with Magic on the film side. How did they explain that Peter Parker was a nerd in 2002? Give him a poster for Invasion in his childhood room.

[@brandtthebrent7227]

My understanding is for all of the the bonus card is Arcane Signet with an Avengers Headquarters coat of paint.

[@tipulsar85]

@@brandtthebrent7227 Signet is the "Spend $100 or more" card.

[@PsychoDiesel48]

Flavor and art wise I LOVE Black Pamther and Iron Man. But Wolverine? That shit speaks to my very SOUL as a Gruul Mage

[@lostmarble540]

is this the first time they included one mechanically unique card among a handful of reprints? like the $40 price tag is bad enough but it also feels like they split one secret lair into five

[@justinendel4292]

Llanowar Reborn is a funny card to use with Black Panther.

[@MarkAvo]

Getting these for a Marvel Cube is not going to be necessary but they would be sweet!

[@LeonValenti]

Wolverine could be a cool include in Wayta decks now. He's gonna be beating up dinos and stuffy dolls all day. That's some Savage Land stuff

[@WafflePrince]

These legit should have been 5 precon commander decks for the same price

[@cwest1337]

The pips for Captain America are using the pre khans order rather than the updated wedge order which would be U>R>W. For example you can look at Zedruu original printing color order of RWU but was updated in commander legends to the now used wedge system denoted before. So while certainly thematic and most certainly a planned design choice it is not unique per se.

[@PleasantKenobi]

I dont think I called it unique haha

[@Scion_40k]

Storm is definitely the most broken of the 5. Bar none

[@wellwellwelp]

Her power is 3 so Access tunnel works with her

[@algolmantis3712]

Wolverine + Lizard blades quadrupling damage is the big brained play. Lethal damage combo, if unblocked, with just +3 damage and with a lot of ways to get there.

[@Julian_t_x]

Why would Wotc release this Secret Lair so shortly before but at the same time completely removed from their 2025 Marvel set?

[@TaskMaster5]

Probably as a pallet wetter to get people hyped for what else is to come from those sets.

[@turtleanton6539]

Moneey

[@mbarker_lng]

Storm's storm is going to be doing some really evil things. My first thought was "Time Warp" and that was Kenobi's first choice too.

[@johnpisser1983]

The Fortnitification continues

[@turtleanton6539]

Indeed

[@taranlee5203]

For Wolverine instead of the regeneration line I think this would be cool: “When Wolverine dies, if no excess damage was dealt, regenerate Wolverine. Otherwise, you may exile it with a number of time counters equal to the excess damage dealt to it. If you do, it gains suspend.

[@boredsak]

Not going to lie, Ice Storm reprint has me interested haha

[@MissAshley42]

I want to run an Ice Storm in a Garth One-Eye deck I'm building for flavor's sake, so I'm kinda thinking about getting the Storm pack, too. Then again, having a crossover version card in the deck isn't exactly flavorful.

[@williamrodenbough5518]

I am going to join the queue for the entire set of cards

[@pandosham]

Black Panther can move ice counters. Idk how good that is but it'd be funny to have a 20/20 flying Indestructible backing a super hero

[@mrmegalovania]

Yes Sword of War and Peace gives Pro Red White meaning can't use Aid.... buttt have Cap fling the sword/"Shield" equip whatever else you want with Aid then reequipt War/Peace to Cap using Caps ability or pay the extra 2 to equip

[@sosukelele]

I agree with about the value being a bit iffy, buuuut... that's honestly been the case with most Secret Lair Drops in my experience. The value is in the unique(-ish) treatment (the least unique being the Jumpstart lands). These fefature new game pieces and reprints that mostly (if not entirely) justify* the prices. *justification being relative to your hobby budget, investment in MtG, etc. Here I'm talking about secondhand market value of non-unique cards compared to bundle prices

[@dcluvspie5777]

Also you can throw Caps shield cast another equipment equip it with Sigarda's aid and it will come back at the beginning of combat you can also do this at instant speed thanks to sigarda's aid...

[@chriscunningham6401]

Iron Man dodging fight spells and white/black removal seems pretty good (talking about the Commander's Plate).

[@MysteryMedia2001]

Two notes Love the rhythm of the wild variant. It’s one of my favourite enchantments “I’m terrified of how strong she is” lore accurate

[@Cthuski]

Old school fan of both mtg and wolverine. Regenerate on wolverine is perfect. Yeah Yeah he's become Cell nowadays but his healing factor used to only be *accelerated* not a proxy for immortality. In the early days his arm got mauled by a dinosaur and it meant something for like 2 issues. Now it wouldn't mean anything in two panels.

[@ethanwetzel7]

God I loathe universes beyond

[@turtleanton6539]

Funkopop the game😅😅😅

[@TheMoroe1]

Once you free your mind about a concept of authenticity and proxys not beeing correct, you can do whatever you want

[@nickudeschini4812]

T'Challa is actually super flavorful when you consider that he's a king and part of what makes him so dangerous is that he's the world greatest diplomat who can move people and things around to get things done better than anyone else.

[@AlthalusKanemtg]

Jeska's Will with storm shouldn't need you to select modes unless someone removes storm post combat damage which is unlikely. The storm effect will still be applied of course.

[@tmryns]

301.5c An Equipment that’s also a creature can’t equip a creature unless that Equipment has reconfigure So yes Swift Reconfiguration but no if you are just using Mycosynth Lattice.

[@francisserpa4465]

I'm really tempted by Storm. She's one of my favorite character's and the art's amazing and the mechanics are interesting, so all in all it seems good. But yeah, like you said, it is a lot of money

[@greenbronze6318]

I really want to build black panther , because putting counters on lands that can turn into creatures can be to me very funny. Also the best commander to use one of my favorite mythic from brothers war, awaken the woods.

[@ChrisKay-h1j]

Cap and Iron Man are the ones that interest me most. Cap is one of my favourite avengers, and I want to build Iron Man as a multiple combat steps commander.

[@jlaw131985]

I feel like to get across Wolverine’s regeneration, giving him persist would do it. But that would be pretty broken.

[@mariksebastianishtarthethi6998]

Yeah... storm + umbra bear + size the day + that blue instant make her unlockable plus draw a card, you got your game there.

[@TheJadeFist]

I wanted Iron Fist, aside from personal tastes, like his power set actually fits in perfectly fine mix for the worlds of magic. We already have a ton of monks and martial artists and spirit magic and stuff like that.

[@somebodyelsesghost]

I absolutely love that token. You just need to put the s-mart slogan in the flavour text.

[@narvuntien]

Storm is completely broken but I think its something that is very telegraphed and you know exactly what kind of game you are playing. Storm is a level 4 card.

[@richardmolano5538]

What I think is odd is that there was no swamp commander at all during the panel. I mean, that’s why I think Black Panther should’ve been black and green.

[@therealnecromancer1231]

with the heroes selected this time around, black doesn't really fit their identities. black will definitely be reserved for villains or more anti-hero style characters, like mercenaries

[@explodingporpise]

Wolverine not having any black is wild to me. 90% of his whole thing is both killing and being able to regenerate. Thats all black all day

[@Lucarioguild7]

Regenerate is primarily green and by that same token every color kills not just black, the way Wolverine kills is giving into his primal animalistic side. The real annoying one to me is Cap being Jeskai for the meme when he's such a quintessential mono-white character

[@JacktheDoctor]

@@Lucarioguild7 I really do think he should have been Jund.

[@Lucarioguild7]

@@JacktheDoctor I could definitely be convinced he's jund especially early Wolverine just not for the reasons they stated lol

[@wademiller2376]

Originally green on 110 cards, moved more to black on 196 cards

[@elijahwalker323]

@@Lucarioguild7 He seems like he would be more boros than mono white, and blue shows that he is also a tactician. I think besides the red white and blue being good for his theme, it also makes some sense with the that side of him, although for his abilities it doesn't really show any blue identity.

[@LetotheGamingWorm]

Really want to get the Storm one. Been wanting a Temur deck and a storm deck for a while and slapping them together and along side the it being Storm has pretty fully sold me

[@weirdmusicmixmaster]

i'll probably proxy them, until they put secret lair back to print to demand AND consistently do the universes within i wont buy any more of them. i know im not their whale target but i bought a few when they where worth it to me like the bitterblossom one, the seb mckinnon set, and the sheldons commander one but im not gonna be led around by the nose on this stuff for unique cards.

[@Magnet977]

Wow, some of these will be really cool to proxy once their prices spike to outrageous degrees and its not worth it to try and buy one anymore!

[@spamtonto]

Gross.

[@Magnet977]

@@spamtonto I'm not the one who decided to make it a limited print run. If WotC wants to play games with artificial scarcity to pump up secondary market value price, I'm not gonna reward their behavior for it.

[@Marq5104]

I think Wolverine should have had something more focused on undying (though your free passive trigger regenerate would also be sick). I feel like making it so Undying can trigger infinitely is the right way to go, I'm thinking with another ability that removes +1/+1 counters on wolverine (meaning undying can trigger again) and putting it on something else (Adamantium Skeleton) which gives Wolverine +X/+X dependent on the number of +1/+1 counters on it. This sorta gameplay would reward making Wolverine die again and again only to come back stronger and stronger.

[@stevenburton7725]

Storm+Sword of Feast and Famine+an extra attack spell allows you to just go for the commander damage win

[@Sammo212]

I am disappointed they aren't doing commander precons for the Marvel stuff. I am going to buy the Captain America set. I don't think its any more expensive than something like the Ghostbusters stuff that just came out or practically every other set I've seen released (like the Junji Ito one I bought).

[@RayneOfSalt]

Y'know, I've never understood how the archetype came to be called "Voltron" when it is very clearly "The Centurions". Taking a dude and loading them up with a ton of gear and upgrades was the Centurions' gimmick.

[@kylegonewild]

Because Voltron is formed from the combination of multiple individual pieces to form a much stronger singular fighter. It's pretty obvious why Voltron stuck in a nerd hobby while Centurion is what some wannabe fascist LARPer who loves New Vegas' Legion would call themselves.

[@RayneOfSalt]

@@kylegonewild Voltron is multiple things MERGING to form a new thing, not a thing being loaded up with stuff. And I'm talking about the CARTOON from the same time as Voltron called THE CENTURIONS, not... whatever or whoever you're talking about.

[@ironkodiakbooks5115]

Super comic book nerd for almost 50 years. I requested the day they go live off work. I would like a set of all 5 plus a spare set for later. I've already had 3 other people request full sets so I'm currently looking to pick up 6 sets in a mix of regular & foil. I also have a large amount of store credit built up at Card Kingdom specifically so I can go hog wild on whatever regular products they offer (who needed those pre-2012 foils anyway?).

[@elijahwalker323]

@12:00 I agree, storm seems so interesting to build, but I would be worried even when you try to make it jank you can just do some broken stuff, like storming jeska's will or creating multiple copies of storm and giving your next card like storm *10 or dopplegang with storm seems funny.

[@carsonmichalowski6075]

I was hoping that when they switched to limited print run Secret Lairs, that they would no longer do mechanically unique cards in them. Well here we are confirming my fears. I can't see this as much past some high-ups in WotC not caring about accessibility in favor of profits. Game pieces should be easily accessible to everyone. This is why I think they should be collectable pieces, not game pieces.

[@ToadimusPrime]

I'm gonna assume these aren't in the commander decks, because this was always the case in Universes Beyond SL's. Unless they said otherwise and I missed it. Because if they are alt arts of the face commanders...that means 5 decks...

[@kniveJustice]

Wolverine: This Creature can't leave the battlefield

[@T_Peazy]

The wolverine card should have been like: If wolverine would die from damage exile it with number of time counters on it equal to the damage dealt. He gains suspend.

[@WafflePrince]

That would be great! Also would be good with Deadpool

[@steamh4mmer264]

That would be much worse, He now keeps counters, because He doesnt die thx to regenerate

[@T_Peazy]

@@steamh4mmer264 not if you DONT regenerate it.

[@guyver6622]

Out of 1 to 10 how powerful will the Storm deck be? Omega Level!!! Double strike copy spells extra turns.😍

[@TheUniversalEclipse]

Unfortunately I am too susceptible to fomo, I don’t really see me not buying them unless I literally get boxed out by the wait times and it gets sold out. The one thing that is justifying it in my mind is that there is no way I see them going down in price since it’s marvel but that may be wrong. It’s not like I’d sell them but the thought that I could if I needed some cash is clouding my judgement.

[@cabuuuuum]

Storm kinda represents what I hate about modern legendary creature design: she does everything herself. I get that thematically it makes sense but giving her flying makes the card a lot less interesting, if she was just a vigilant 3/4 youd have to actually put thought into how to get her to connect when building the deck but because she just has flying thats out the window and you can just load up the deck with storm pay off cards

[@evanprimeau3810]

You’d think so, but she specifically doesn’t draw you cards. Her ability is also extremely dependent on having cheap cards in hand to up the Storm count on your turn, so card draw is a massive weakness for her! Card draw and mana generation are the puzzles you have to solve, as well as protecting her from removal, since she’s a frightening commander. Overall, she isn’t the same as commanders like Voja, which do literally everything and a bag of chips while protecting themselves.

[@hugoterrasse7530]

​@@evanprimeau3810 Agreed plus her abilty to storm require you to do combat damage to a PLAYER with cmc 4 and no haste you have a full turn for the table to dealt with her.

[@AwkwardDreamer]

Just to clarify, you don't get to choose different modes when you copy a spell unless you're CASTING a copy. Otherwise you copy all the choices for that spell (kicker/modes/X/etc)

[@PleasantKenobi]

Tutors function different. New targets.

[@AwkwardDreamer]

@PleasantKenobi while target is a good call out (as something that does change), you only choose new targets when it's specified in the effect copying. Which to be fair, is almost always (storm is a perfect example of when you can choose new targets). But there are plenty of copying effects that don't allow you to change targets. That and generally speaking, tutors don't have 'targets' unless you mean the few times it says "target player". If you cast a demonic tutor for example there are no targets. Same for something like Traverse the Ulvenwald (which has different eligible choices while searching depending on spell mastery). For example if you cast Traverse with no spell mastery, you search for a basic land. If someone copies it and they have no basic lands, they also search for a basic land. But if someone copies it while having spell mastery they can search for any land or a creature (as it resolves). But it never targets or chooses that. You don't have to tell your opponents what you're going to find.

[@dankenstein528]

They're going to sell for probably well over 200 each on the secondary market, so, I'd say they are actually a good bang for the buck. Everyone wants to make these commanders and they are extremely limited print and probably won't be reprinted in this decade after they sell out in 10 minutes. They are going to be extremely pricey.

[@damien4197]

What's the odds, considering we know they were communicating, that as much a WoTC warned the RC about the bans, they actually put their foot down about Sol Ring, because angering Daddy Disney is not wise... and this made things so much worse because they had to hand wave why Sol Ring dodged the bans? LOL.

[@johnpisser1983]

very likely

[@Aldrnari956]

You’re reading too much into it. They were never going to ban Sol Ring. Yes, that’s in large part because of what it does to precons in making them illegal in the format out the box, but that consideration isn’t about WotC’s wallet. It’s about new player experience.

[@neodarkknight42]

I honestly think Sword of Truth and Justice is a better flavor win for Cap than War and Peace

[@TheInfamousCloaker]

They are probably saving that for when/if they do a DC secret lair for Wonder Woman

[@JoeyDCote]

Storm loves some Savage Ventmaw and Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient.

[@Dekaar]

the issue with this is, that every set has one of those "I want it because it looks so fun" cards - BP being the weakest of the packs imo with ozolith being fun but not 100% mandatory, Commander Plate in Iron Man which is insane and an auto include for every equip strategy (heck even for a monocolored commander), Cap, wolverine and storm looking incredibly incredibly fun and Jeska's will also being insanely good... I guess I'll get Storm because I'm missing a temur deck and don't want to play the generic landfall shenanigans (which I will absolutely build regardless of it being stormcentered)

[@stephenbradford8524]

Storm is easily my favorite… but I’ll never forgive whoever came up with “Ororo Borealis.”

[@MainlyHuman]

Ach Hans Run, its The Wolverine!

[@bdienes20]

Secret Lair has never looked so good!

[@BuppGuy]

I think they nailed the flavors on all the reprints

[@dannybeane2069]

So two things to add: #1: Ironman's birthing pod effect downside of having the artifacts he tutor come in tapped is negated with amulet of vigor which he can tutor out by Ironman without any sort of investment because its CMC is 1, which can be done on turn 2 with any "add 3 colorless effect" like Basalt Monolith, or Manavault. #2: The only saving grace of these secret lairs is the choice words Mald is going to have for them should be very non-salty and absolutely hilarious.

[@TheAverageGuyTAG]

You think if I manage to get either the Captain America or Wolverine Secret Lairs, I'd be able to keep Flawless Maneuver/Berserk + Ozolith reprints to replace the ones in my commander decks, and then sell off the rest of the Secret Lair cards alongside the non-UB copies I removed from my decks to make back the money I spent?

[@erband8454]

Honestly, i think an effect like the one on the God-Eternals would have been a better fit for wolverine.

[@Russian_engineer_bmstu]

I'd say the wild amonkhet God's mechanics too

[@erband8454]

@@Russian_engineer_bmstu yeah, that too. Just thought of the god -eternal recursion because they survive exile as well

[@brushwagg7735]

That’s Days of Future Past Storm on the lightning bolt. Or possibly Morlock era storm?

[@TheDarkElder]

Huh, I want to get a copy of them, maybe two. But with the hype already everywhere it might be tough to get through - unless they printed enough to last for a few days at least.

[@woodman_1799]

I’m so excited to get my hands on a storm storm deck! What copy of the printing am I going to get? Epson.

[@_DavidLeBlanc]

I guess I'll try to get them, but if I cannot before they sell out, I won't be too disappointed

[@AdderMoray]

My take on Wolverine would be: ~ must attack each combat if able. If ~ would be exiled it is destroyed instead 1G - Regenerate If ~ is destroyed its controller must pay ~'s regeneration cost if able. Nothing can prevent ~ from regenerating.

[@lanibentz9976]

Use black panther to defrost a dark depths, immediately getting Marit lage Edit: Actually rereading it, you are incorrect, it specifies +1/+1 counters

[@bye1551]

Locking mechanically unique things behind a 40 buck, limited time fomo paywall is criminal. I haven't bought anything in years and I'm definitely handing out proxies to my playgroup when the universes within actually comes out.

[@spamtonto]

That's weird, if you're using fake cards anyway why not be creative? Just printing the latest release is gross and weird and more Magic players should condemn this stuff. There's so many cards and so many decks you can play for so cheap, there's no valid reason to proxy anything. Appreciate the objects of your own hobby.

[@Alex_Simpson711]

I really want to see Deadpool and Dr strange in this set including juggernaut including other famous marvel characters and I want to play juggernaut as a commander or even Dr strange or even Deadpool as a commander

[@venkelos6996]

I think these look cool, and I'm definitely typically a fan of Marvel Comics, especially when it's a bit more more comics, and less obvious MCU, but I'm personally inclined to see these as a bit out of my price range. I'll happily go to various sires, like CardKingdom, or Troll&Toad, and buy cards I want; with my decades of ABYSMAL luck pulling cards from packs, on Magic, Yugioh, Naruto, and Heroclix, I al out have to, but I still try and for e myself to remain within a certain pricing scheme, and while I like the look of most of these, I'm not certain I'd want to pay that much. Proxies for the win!

[@mkclemente]

the art is really good

[@PleasantKenobi]

Storm in Particular, looks amazing.