These Modern Miracle Stories Prove Christianity (w/ Caleb Jackson)

[@ariellaceda2600]

as a person who has an incurable disease and many problems with organs and body parts. I'm hoping and praying to God to heal me, not because I just want it, but because he is a merciful, gracious, powerful, and loving God. I'm hoping God will give me a second chance at a new life. There are many who are called healing priests, and some people claim to have the gift of healing from God. Maybe I just don't encounter the real one. Please pray for me, brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@Germany-qo6ko]

Ariel, I am praying for a miracle for you. By Jesus’ stripes you are healed. God bless you. 🙏✝🦋

[@iambeyondgod8068]

I will pray for you tonight Ariel

[@mkpinero5511]

By the stripes and blood of Jesus Christ We command the incurable disease,organs and body parts to be healed. Body function how you are made to be in Jesus Mighty name.Amen

[@adamcoptic570]

Cameron! I'm Coptic Orthodox Christian! The Virgin Mary appeared on top of our Coptic Churches domes so much! So many miracles happen in the Coptic Orthodox Church! Would love for you to converse with Coptic Orthodox priests and apologists!

[@jonima18]

St. Padre Pio has a miracle associated where a little girl's bladder regrew after surgeons had removed it. I think the story goes like that but more to it.

[@jjcm3135]

@@tony1685 so we’re Moses and Elijah also dead on the mount of Olives in the transfiguration of Jesus? 5:17

[@CPATuttle]

That would be good to get an actual eye witness on to discuss

[@JESUSTRUST1]

​@@jjcm3135, yes, but the believers in Jesus Christ don't started to PRAY to Moses and Elijah after they saw them on the Mount of Transfiguration (Mount Tabor not Olives) as some christian denominations (including eastern orthodox churches) do.

[@unknowncowman]

@@JESUSTRUST1 that's the point. I also honour Mary, she was so devout that God found her to be the one to carry out God in the flesh. But she's not alive anymore, we can't talk to her. Jesus is the only way to the Father!

[@cheerfulmouse]

Oh, I need to remember that phrase... "Hand waving away is not an argument" ❤️ Thank you for kindly addressing people's possible genuine concerns in a mature manner. Not that these men wouldn't. But Thank You!! 👏

[@perilouspete]

one of the best presenters I’ve seen on your channel and absolutely fascinating topic. hope you can bring Caleb back again sometime!

[@calebjackson99]

Thanks Peter that means a lot!

[@CPATuttle]

It was so good

[@megaloschemos9113]

I remember hearing about Betty Baxter's testimony on a tape when I was younger, it shook me up back then. I'll never forget it.

[@Renxo761]

God is so good, we can't even fully comprehend it.

[@CPATuttle]

Caleb was great. I love how objective he is. It would take hours of research on each of these miracles. You may have some subscribers that’ll say “I don’t need miracles to believe.” And that is good. But to the former Christians, the doubting Christians. The atheists, and all other religions. These miracles are instrumental and life changing

[@averagejoe2232]

Yeah, miracle stories are one of two main reasons why I’d call myself agnostic rather than atheist. I loved Caleb Jackson’s chill approach that was sympathetic to skepticism. I’m wondering if Paulogia will do a response video to this, as there is actually not a lot of content by counter-apologists on contemporary miracle claims and arguments. Great video, Cam! I think this is the first one I watched from beginning to the very end.

[@mhakoyMD]

The case of sir paulogia is that Paulogia is diagnosed with a certain cancer. He claimed that it was undetectable or probably relatively healed. I wouldn't put forth some fallacy here where I would appeal to authority since I'm a medical doctor myself here in the Philipines where I never had a case where healing was done in front of myself in the emergency room without my (our) medical/surgical intervention. That's why skepticism should be thread lightly. Since most of my peer reviewed topics are well scrutinized that they could be safely set-aside and reasonable witheld since anecdotes are the lowest form of evidence for a miracle. I never encountered miracles, because due to my well studied body Physiology - The body do heals itself. That's why there is the placebo and the nocebo effect when prescribing medications. I'm a bit surprise that miracles are not taken into face value since they claimed that it is well documented. I would like to dig deeper on this topic of "modern day miracle" I would like to see an instructional , stepswse and peer reviewed resurrection paper so that I could be share this to our medical society and be reproducible back here in the Philippines. If they can't produce this paper this might be a nonetheless an anecdote. -_-

[@malirk]

Could stories like Betty's be fully explained that she: 1) Wanted to get better 2) Believed she would get better on a certain day 3) Thus she worked to get better by that day Stories of healing aren't convincing me. What convinces me that healing doesn't happen are the endless number of people of the same faith who pray and DO NOT get healing.

[@malirk]

The response video is easy. None of these people have enough evidence to conclude a God healed them. The studies on prayer and healing conclude that prayer only works if you know someone is praying for you. Basically, the effect of people caring about you openly is helpful. However if people are praying about you in secret, it doesn't do anything better than random chance.

[@malirk]

More on the response: Check out the churches today doing miracle healings. What do you think would happen if a "Local newspaper" today went down to the local mega church where they pull people out of wheelchairs and the person runs around? The person would probably say: *I saw it! They were in a wheelchair! They couldn't walk at all! Then they were prayed over and the person got up and ran around the whole stadium! It was a miracle!* So you have to ask yourself, if people really have the power to do miracles, why aren't they going in to hospitals and saving kids from cancer?

[@malirk]

Serious question, if you think miracles are possible via prayer (As Betty's story suggests), why not send all the religious people to the childhood cancer ward in a hospital? Isn't it almost a crime that people who can do miracles aren't going there daily and curing kids of cancer? Maybe their miracle powers don't work that way.... Maybe the person has to have a vision that they'll be healed 6 months later. Then a group needs to gather to perform the miracle... Then and only then does a miracle happen. Do you see why this story from the 1940s is less than believable now?

[@calebjore3295]

[bald assertion regarding the motives of Christian apologists] *leaves without watching the video*

[@malirk]

Watched the video and I'm not impressed. A story of a guy in 1650 growing his leg back? Visions above a church? "Modern" miracles are often not: 1) Modern or 2) Miracles

[@Specialeffecks]

​@@malirk If the event actually occurred, at a minimum, did the god (or being) that allegedly caused the "miracle" present two forms of valid ID? (The DMV requires 3). At least we would want to determine if it was the Pentecostal God versus Jehovah, for example (let alone Oden or Hanuman; one of their angels; demons, Ghost- Holy or otherwise, etc.).

[@liraco_mx]

Props to see a protestant use a Marian miracle and not dismissing it (also funny he's not sure how to feel about it). And yes, Caleb, you gotta reconsider universalism. Jesús didn't constantly warn about Hell for kicks. Very interesting discussion.

[@namapalsu2364]

I don't get why Protestant need to be cautious with non-protestant, or even non-Christian miracles. Miracles can be done by, even Satanist, as long as it's not use to vindicate error but to glorify God. Craig Keenan's, a Protestant, has a book on miracle where he discussed Lourdes and other.

[@bramrawlings3051]

Caleb believes in Hell, like all orthodox universalists.

[@chrishaynes599]

Are you orthodox universalist?

[@johnbrion4565]

I may have witnessed a miracle myself Caleb. While at morning mass light appeared over the tabernacle in the form of Mother Mary. This happened every morning for about two weeks. This did coincide with the rising of the sun shining through a stain glasses window in the back of the chapel. But it had never happened before. Many came to see this and pray. Still to this day I don’t know if it truly was a miracle but it did bring many from all over to mass and did show me why God does not just rely on miracles for conversion. Because no matter what is seen people will find reasons to dismiss it as a trick of light or hallucination so that we can continue living out sinful lives rather than submitting to God and changing our ways and living as God wants us to. I can send you pictures and more details if you’re interested.

[@malirk]

Did you capture it on your Iphone? If not, next time please do.

[@johnbrion4565]

@@malirk yes I have many pictures of it.

[@johnbrion4565]

@@malirk do you want me to send you some? What’s your email?

[@eugene3484]

@@malirk he said he captured it on his phone. And he said he would send you the pics. And then you stopped talking. Let’s be honest. You will reject God no matter what. You don’t truly want to know if these things really happened you just want to continue to wave it off

[@malirk]

@@johnbrion4565 Post it on your KZbin channel. You can upload a video showing off the pictures. Thanks.

[@ivarkoedijker168]

Great interview! I noted only one small mistake though: Miguel met king Philip IV, not the II. But that doesn't change the testimony of course. Wonderful story!

[@ExploringReality]

Nice stream guys! Cam I’m sorry about me getting plugged during the steam I promise I wasn’t behind that. I hope that didn’t make you feel uncomfortable.

[@mkl2237]

Yeah sure right uh huh ok

[@jobapologetics9764]

@@mkl2237is there a problem?

[@JeanRausis]

There are many things to say about Lourdes and Fatima. Check Akita and others too. I hope Cameron that you can dig a bit about these. They are one of the most beautiful gifts and definitely evidence for Mary being the Queen of Heaven. ❤️ Love the Catholic Church and the Mother of God, both give us an idea about the absolute perfection of God. 🙏

[@tastybeetz1511]

Lmao enjoy ur new fan base cam

[@JJ-cw3nf]

Yes!

[@JJ-cw3nf]

@@tastybeetz1511 this is the Jesus Christ fan base

[@jaralara6429]

@@tastybeetz1511 haters gonna hate and ain’ters gonna ain’t

[@MrWoaaaaah]

@@tastybeetz1511 repent

[@Miatpi]

37:50 Quick note: a miracle on behalf of an intercessory prayer of a saint is still done by God. Mary doesn't "do" Miracles. She prays for God to do them.

[@MarioPoluan]

@@tony1685 quick note: not all are in the bible.. & by the way Sola scriptura is not in bible, its actually the opposite

[@danieladonosop]

@@tony1685 if you believe in heaven and Life after death then those in heaven are not dead, but very much alive and close to God. Rev 5:8 shows the elders in heaven bring the prayers of the saints here on earth to God’s heavenly throne, thereby performing an undeniable intercessory prayer

[@MarioPoluan]

@@tony1685 don't want to talk about my first point? 😂 Ask your god Martin Luther why he take out words of God from your bible 🤭 Quick note: sola scriptura is not , still not, and will not mention in the bible 🤪

[@danieladonosop]

@@tony1685 symbolic for what? Prayers are being presented to God. What is the symbolism there?

[@MarioPoluan]

@@tony1685 when you don't get it, it sounds nonsense doesn't it? 😂 Now i know the quality off your brain 🧐 come back to me when you get it

[@KH-vp4ni]

I just watched Betty's testimony! So wonderful.

[@philosophicaljay3449]

Didn't get a chance to watch it live (jumped in right after you took the last question), but do intend to watch it all. I do think that there is an often important perspective that is overlooked when it comes to miracle arguments, and that is the polytheistic perspective. Often, the issue is trying to show that these Christian miracles are true to establish Christianity, with the main issue being those skeptical of such miracles occurring in the first place. However, polytheists can completely concede that such miracles happen, as it does not necessarily run counter to polytheistic models. We can say "sure, there are miracles performed by your God." without thinking it invalidates the existence of other Gods or the miracles that fall outside of Christianity. Trying to argue for Christianity, and the exclusive truth of Christianity, through miracle arguments requires addressing other miracles WITHOUT special pleading. This can be difficult, and an important thing that must also be kept in mind is that the more miracles that are established to have occurred, the higher the probability that other miracles have also occurred (and that includes miracles that might fall outside of Christianity). So, establishing certain Christian miracles does help out with showing Christianity, but it also helps out polytheists.

[@jeremysmith7176]

To start I agree that the existence of Christian miracles doesn't exclude polytheism. I have two thoughts. The existence of pagan miracles is not surprising under Christianity. 1'st the demons have some power over this present world and can accomplish supernatural effects. 2'nd God in his love, mercy, and grace may choose to help his people and help them even when they reject him. 3'rd the Bible recounts possible pagan Miracles such as Egyptian magicians turning their staffs into snakes in Exodus or the demoniac in the Gospels. This brings me to my second point, We can compare Christian and Pagan miracle claims to see if the evidence better supports one claim or the other. This is what God did for Isreal in the old Teastemant. While the Egyptian magicians could turn their staffs into snakes Moses's rod was more powerful and consumed those snakes. The 10 plagues were a demonstration that the God of Israel was stronger than the gods of the Egyptians. Elijah demonstrated God's superiority to Baal with a miraculous demonstration against Baal's priests

[@philosophicaljay3449]

@@jeremysmith7176 "1'st the demons have some power over this present world and can accomplish supernatural effects." While this is how many Christians choose to explain things (this was the standard explanation early Christians used to explain such things as Christianity spread through the Roman Empire), it risks special pleading. Essentially, a question of 'why are your miracles from a God but mine from a demon?' If all that one has is special pleading, then polytheism comes out on top. "2'nd God in his love, mercy, and grace may choose to help his people and help them even when they reject him." Similar to the above, this prompts a question of 'why is the God that exists your and not mine?' Furthermore, if someone has had a religious experience/witnessed miracles that seemed to come from two different Gods, then this has a serious issue. Why would your singular God seem to appear to people as two different Gods? Again, there is a risk of special pleading, but now also a risk of violating parsimony (why think a diversity of experienced divinity does not indicate a diversity of the Divine?). "We can compare Christian and Pagan miracle claims to see if the evidence better supports one claim or the other" I don't actually think this is as important as you are making it out to be. Let's say we can establish 5 Christian miracles with 80% probability but only 2 pagan miracles, and only with 60% probability. Obviously, there is better evidence for the Christian miracles, but the fact that these non-Christian miracles would be able to be established at all is a problem. Even if the established Christian miracles are grander, that doesn't actually seem to indicate that Christianity is any more or less true, just that Yahweh does grand miracles more often (this wouldn't even indicate Yahweh as being more powerful either). This also risks excusing atrocities of the past. Christians have dominated the western world for centuries, they have chosen what texts to preserve, what texts to interpolate, what texts to let be destroyed, etc. It should actually be surprising to see ancient, pagan miracles be able to be shown with the same high probability as Christian ones. If there were texts that showed such high probability, then why would Christians preserve them? In fact, we can say with some certainty that this actually is, seemingly, the state of affairs. Plutarch is seen by historians to be highly accurate when it comes to his biographical material. He bases what he says off available texts, and if he is biased it is towards the sensational. In one of his texts (Life of Coriolanus iirc) he actually outlines a miracle from 500 years early that had numerous eye-witnesses that he made use of their work, and from all available sources he had he could only conclude (as he wanted to DISPROVE this miracle) that the only possible explanation was a mass hallucination. He went against his bias to try and disprove a miracle and came up with the same explanation that modern skeptics use for most miracle claims (an explanation that is often rejected by Christians that accept miracle claims). None of his sources he used were preserved, but we know (from what we can know about Plutarch) that they both existed, were likely what he said they were (eye-witness accounts), and made it so established that the event occurred that he had to use the mass hallucination explanation to explain it away. So, we shouldn't expect the evidence to be as great when establishing ancient, non-Christian miracles. The evidence would just not have been preserved. This is why the ability to establish them at all, even with lesser probability, is alone to create a problem for Christians.

[@avranju]

I think miracles of the kind described here by themselves wouldn’t be sufficient to make the case for Christian theism. They do however help counter materialistic naturalism. In the fullness of time however, during the course of an individual’s life, I think Christian miracles help make a cumulative case in conjunction with other evidences. Like in Exodus, there comes a point when the Pharaoh’s miracle workers must throw their hands up and say that this truly is the finger of God.

[@RadicOmega]

I agree that the Polytheists have a good account of miracles too, and that Christan Theists do need to consider these arguments. I do think most Christians would concede some of the evidence for Polytheism, but that Naturalism is off the table

[@philosophicaljay3449]

@@RadicOmega "I do think most Christians would concede some of the evidence for Polytheism, but that Naturalism is off the table" Exactly. Christians making these arguments do a good job moving us away from naturalism, but they open the door wider for polytheists in the process. It is just that there are so few polytheists these days that I feel as if people don't realize that that is what is happening.

[@mattwilliams3902]

I anxiously await your book. The thought of not having to Wade through endless weak documented cases and then having to work through the objections would be disappointing to say the least. I think doing a handful of very well documented cases in the manner it sounds you have will be much more valuable!!

[@danieladonosop]

Loved the interview so far. I’d just like to point out one thing: Mary does not heal or does the miracle herself. She intercedes for us so God can perform it. Just like in the wedding at Cana, she did not turn the water into wine but asked Jesus to help. It is ultimately God who heals through the loving intercession of our Blessed Mother

[@joeterp5615]

Yep, I caught that error in his presentation too. It’s all the work of Jesus. But he wants us to love his Mom too!

[@mc07]

So legit question. How do you view those believers who have gone to be with the Lord? So all the requests to Mary for intercession, for example. How do you understand that to be possible? Believers in heaven can hear us on earth? How many prayers can they handle all at once? I’m just curious the basis for this belief. Where does it come from?

[@joeterp5615]

@@mc07 The basis for the belief very much connects back to Cana as the first poster indicated, as well as other biblical examples of intercessory prayer. Regarding the sheer number of prayers asking for Mary or any other particular Saint’s intercession, we don’t know exactly how things work, but the belief is that we are still connected with those in heaven with God now. Generally speaking, God answers prayers from those who are close to him (i.e. those with strong faith and love of God) more than those not as close to him. Certainly those who have been purified of all effects of sin in heaven are very close to God, thus are good intercessors. The whole concept of intercessory prayer is fascinating, and shows how important prayer is and just how profound this concept of family (both spiritual and literal) truly is. God allows our prayers to be effective for the benefit of others and for His glory. It’s really quite amazing.

[@umatveg]

Thank yo uso much @Caleb Jackson for replying back, dude you are awesome. I really appreciate your job. I wanted to reply just to explain myself better. believe you are right, the miracle of the sun was one time thing. But when you put it in context, all of those people were there in spite of the downpour because it was prophesied/announced months in advance, they knew they were to expect something. I mentioned it was the most witnessed miracle since resurrection, and we can’t deny the similarities. For example, The resurrection was witnessed by more than 500 people and the Fatima was witnessed by at least 70000 people, between those were believers, agnostics, atheists and there were also newspapers and cameras reporting. The inconsistency of the accounts on the Fatima event correspond to those one would expect from real eyewitnesses, just like in the resurrection and the gospels. So why defend the resurrection as an eyewitness account with less than a thousand people, and not the apparition of the Virgin with more than 70000? There were also miracles adjudicated to the events as well as prophecies that came to pass such as the early death of two of the kids, for example. And not to mention the fruits of the Spirit like the conversion of thousands. In the History of Christianity, we have had many people witnessing miracles and still not believing in them. Heck! God himself raised people from the dead and still some did not believe. We should also take into account other reasons for why people didn’t see it, and one possible explanation that speaks to me is a spiritual explanation. For example, in the first apparitions of the Virgin in Fatima one of the little kids could see Mary but couldn’t hear her, and what was advice for him was to pray more. Until he finally saw and heard the virgin. So people not seeing anything doesn’t strike me as odd in an event like this. We can even argue that it was a spiritual event and not an astronomical one, and since we as Christians, believe that God is spirit, and that the spirit world is an undeniable reality, we could argue that the miracle spoke to their spiritual reality. We mustn't forget that Jesus appeared to Saint Paul along with several other witnesses and not one, but Paul could see and hear the vision of Christ. Another interesting thing to me is that prior to the apparition of the Virgin, an angel had appeared to the children, calling himself to be the angel of Portugal, something which corresponds with the old testament descriptions of angels guarding cities and kingdoms. Granted the rain was already clearing out, the fact they reported their clothes and soil drying unnaturally fast says something about the physical quality of the event, not just mass hysteria. I totally agree that the sun or stars could not physically do something like that, but that could very well help the case of the supernatural. We can find a similar account in the old testament with King Hezekiah and Isaiah, so we have a precedent of a celestial event like it in the Bible. We can also argue it was also a strange way of God confirming to Hezekiah his promise. Maybe you are right and I got caught up by your initial admission of bias. If you say you don’t have one, I believe you. It still striked me as odd the omission of this miracle. I apologize for accusing you wrongly. Anyways, Fantastic Job and thank you for everything, you are contributing significantly to the evangelization of the world. May God keep blessing you and your loved ones

[@cheerfulmouse]

Very interesting. Thank you gentlemen!

[@brickcreation7074]

This kinda (especially the Mary apparition incident) reminds me of another event that Josephus and Tacitus records what many saw about 3 years before Jerusalem fell: Josephus (Wars 6.5.3): Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable; were it not related by those that saw it; and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals. For, before sun setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost; as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the] temple, as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said, that in the first place they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise: and after that they heard a sound, as of a multitude, saying, “Let us remove hence.” Tacitus (Histories 5.13): Prodigies had occurred, which this nation, prone to superstition, but hating all religious rites, did not deem it lawful to expiate by offering and sacrifice. There had been seen hosts joining battle in the skies, the fiery gleam of arms, the temple illuminated by a sudden radiance from the clouds. The doors of the inner shrine were suddenly thrown open, and a voice of more than mortal tone was heard to cry that the Gods were departing. At the same instant there was a mighty stir as of departure.

[@rebelresource]

My BOI Caleb rocking it

[@brianh870]

"This is something that usually doesn't get better over time" and it got better - IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!!

[@TheBirdGardenNB]

I’m excited too. 3:00 let’s see how this goes.

[@daman7387]

52:43 The photos remind me of that Phoenix Lights UFO case Edit: woah he literally just said basically the same thing after I paused and commented this

[@KH-vp4ni]

I urge you to examine all Marian apparitions and Eucharistic miracles!

[@woodworkerroyer8497]

I love how they give a blind person a writen paper telling them how they will be taken care of. Seems like adding insult to injury!

[@shanehanes7096]

3 pm is the hour of Divine Mercy

[@rolandovelasquez135]

The Resurrection of Jesus Christ proves Christianity. Nothing else. Plain and simple. Either he did in fact rise from the dead or be didn't. Plain and simple.

[@j-psavoie8173]

You should do an episode (or a few episodes) on NDEs. Bruce Greyson and Gregory Shushan would be very good guests. For a christian perspective, you obviously already know Gary Habermas. I'm currently undergoing an existential crisis, mainly regarding the inevitability of death, which is a total annihiltation of my being according to materialism. I've always been interested in Christianity and I do think theism makes more sense philosophically, but I still am in doubt regarding belief.

[@anaclararodas4833]

I have a question to any atheist o whoever wishes to answer me. If you don't believe in God, how do you explain miracles that have been tested and proved by scientists who most of the time are atheist? Or any other people who has heard replays to this question is also welcome to share their experience.

[@artklym]

Daniel was killed by having his head and body slammed into the windshield and/or dash of the car he was in. The pictures taken of him while he was in the process of reviving show that his wounds (which he must have had) were healed as well leaving no trace of the impact. Even Jesus still had the wounds in his hands.

[@JacobGosnell-el5ku]

Where does Caleb get his sources from? I would love to know so I can do some research on miracles

[@matiaskoivulehto5880]

The resurrection case also involved a teaching (from an angel) that the man went to hell because he didn't forgive his wife for some thing.

[@Seethi_C]

I wonder how an atheist would respond to this

[@jaralara6429]

*quietly moves goalpost*

[@Kyle72396]

17:22

[@averagejoe2232]

I’m wondering about that myself. I hope this video spurs some of the more popular counter-apologists to address contemporary miracle arguments.

[@simmadownnah8788]

Digital gnosis bad apologetics series did a response to miracles.

[@StewWayDrive]

As an atheist, I would say that no god has been demonstrated to exist so it’s impossible to attribute a seemingly miraculous event to their actions.

[@danielcarriere1958]

Jacalyn Duffin's Medical Miracles book is really good. I recommend it for any atheist who doesn't trust religiously motivated sources (she is an atheist). It is also a fascinating look at the history of medicine and diagnostics.

[@malirk]

What's the best miracle she gives evidence for? I do hope it's better than what was given in the video.

[@danielcarriere1958]

@@malirk it's more the statistical analysis of the claims, the graphs, the changes in diagnosis as the knowledge of medicine progresses that I find interesting. The more impressive ones are modern cancer cures. Huge tumors just disappearing. Diagnosed late term M.S. just going into full remission. Stuff like that is really powerful. Having said that, she still remains an atheist and sort of appeals to a science of the gaps type argument.

[@malirk]

@@danielcarriere1958 So cancer can't go away naturally on it's own.... do you believe that?

[@danielcarriere1958]

@@malirk Yes. I do. But these cures are instantaneous. And they don't have a natural explanation. This is the same with many miracles. You can find naturalistic explanations for some of them, but its the coincidence of timing, for example, the event happens right after a prayer, or right at the time when a person says it will happen. Check out spontaneous remissions. The doctors can speculate as to what cause the cancer to go in remission, but they don't know. Miracles don't replace the need to make an act of faith. And this explains why for a confirmed skeptic, no proof will ever suffice. Because the act of faith is a human choice.

[@malirk]

@@danielcarriere1958 You could easily confirm this to me. Go to a childhood cancer ward and have people cure all the cancer instantaneously by praying it away. I'll believe in miracles if you do this. Would you be willing to do this?

[@quirkycaffeinated4088]

I have a question if anyone is able to help I’m a believer! Why would the Virgin Mary heal? Doesn’t that sort of make it seem like someone could just pray to anyone and be healed and see what they want? I’m playing devils advocate but I am truly wondering why because I am a believer

[@christiannefex4400]

Very interesting!! Love this

[@RadicOmega]

This was a really good interview!

[@tonyl3762]

I highly recommend CS Lewis' book _Miracles_ where he lays out a philosophical grounding for the _possibility_ of miracles. Great stuff. Seems interesting that Hume denies miracles yet ALSO undermines the the relation between causality and science; if he believes science cannot prove an immutable law of nature, then miracles are possible, no matter how rare.

[@michellebryan8148]

Very interesting filled-with-wonders show, for sure, except the raising of Daniel pant since the credit went to the Pastor named Bonkey which makes it questionable if he concocted the story for personal gain. esp.since he wrote a book about it. As i watched this few miracles or proofs of God's real existence, and hearing people calling them " forgery" truly shows to me how this generation don't have the perception of who and what God can do.There is a reason as to why he only choose the simple, the unknown, lowly and Uneducated ones to manifest and show his wonders, because he knew that if he shows his wondrous and miraculous works to Educated and science-minded people, his main purpose/intention/message of whatever miracle/intervention.manifestation he is showcasing would just end up being examined, doubted and tarnished by the curious minds and hands the person it's being shown and manifested .That's why, he chose people who Undoubtedly and willingly received and believed the very manifestation/Intervention/Miracles he's trying to show for all to see and ponder , as his way of telling us....." I Did That ! I am Real and Alive. It takes REAL Faith for a person to truly believe these kinds of miracles esp. about Mary's apparition with the " Dove" on top of her head which is the symbol of the Holy Spirit, which shows HE was with her when she appeared on top of that church. Activation of Faith can result Godly manifestation.The Old and New Testament affirmed to that.

[@leifmelby3780]

God's goal is not just belief , but "belief" that is meaningful and produces love for Jesus and faith in Him. I think that is why God does not choose to prove Himself. IF He healed amputees it would become inescapable "proof" which would cause people to have forced intellectual admission of God's existence, but the "belief" it would produce is an admission in being true, but grudgingly and resentful "belief" which is different from Saving Faith.

[@sergeantslaughter5695]

As much as I appreciate writers like Augustine, Aquinas, Scotus and so on, I still think I prefer the writings of Eriugena and Nicolas of Cusa, especially Cusa's 'learned ignorance' and 'coincidence of opposites' - unfolding and enfolding.

[@clararizzi8051]

Thank you Cameron I love 💘 the way you communicate with your guests and how humble you come across to your audience.You bring very interesting guests and knowledge.You leave us in peace

[@tonywallens217]

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[@RLF1]

How about others who have different beliefs and talk about miracles. Who gets credit for that?

[@obamatime1634]

Can you show me some examples like these from other religions?

[@whiskeredtuna]

@RLF1, Well, certainly not atheism. Atheism has no answers for any miracles.

[@lucashondros3418]

That only raises a further problem for the naturalist. Christianity predicts non-Christian supernatural activity, cf. Pharoh's magicians, the demoniac in the NT

[@KH-vp4ni]

Our lady if Zeitoun pray for us, our mother loves us!

[@Whatsisface4]

Looked into the Danielle Ekechuku story a bit. Apparently resurrection stories from Africa are ten a penny, and there was merchandise attached to it. And, there are some suspicious elements to the story, such as a man at death's door at his own request being driven for an hour and a half along bumpy roads from one hospital to another where his family doctor worked. At the very least, you can't say this story proves Christianity.

[@Numenorean921]

does cameron know that only the Catholic church can approve miracles? Praying he learns about his faith

[@truthseeker7867]

How did he rule out fraud for the blind guy?

[@nibcim5589]

It depends. Fatima didn’t happen once, she appeared many times, however the sun thing was a one time event and I’ll grant she didn’t appear to everyone multiple times. However, the events leading up to it were multiple visits of Mary. So Fatima also can be considered similar, where Mary appears many times over days before the sun dancing event. And what about Eucharistic miracles? You should look into those also. Host bleeding and testing positive for cardiac tissue.

[@deborahcole593]

I wish they gave his background first. What is he a doctor of? That would help me. I’ll Google him, but there should be an intro of who the person is on the podcast.

[@calebjackson99]

Don't have a doctorate. Cameron has mistakenly put that in the stream. He corrects it later on in the video when he notices the mistake

[@michellebryan8148]

Additionally..... To truly believe in God also means, to believe his Works, of which we know can make us GASP and uttered " Unbelievable"! because they are, since they're not the usual/normal earthly occurrence...It takes REAL Faith to believe God's wondrous works, otherwise, the person would just be doubting them, just like Thomas. If we include other miraculous works of God such as in...... Fatima's SPINNING OF THE SUN which was witnessed by more than 70 thousand people from different walks of life, which resulted some Atheist's conversion to Catholicism and yet, despite of that huge number of Multitude who witnessed that world-wide Phenomenon, DOUBT is what you will hear if you tell/relate that to Noncatholics.Why? Because no matter how JAW-dropping the Phenomenon or miracles might be, if they do not have that REAL and FAITH-from -the-heart, they will not believe to ANY of God's intervention. Great example is how the Jews/his own people did not believe the very Author of Miracles who performed the miracles HIMSELF and yet, still doubting them. The SAME in this generation esp. now that he's not doing it HIMSELF but through other people of whom he chose to use to manifest or show his Godly interventions. If they did not believe him and many doubted, so are the people today and the future generations, because as the world is getting older, Faith will also get weaker..

[@monkkeygawd]

There are modern miracle stories in EVERY religion... and, even my own non-religious (but deeply philosophical) life I've personally witnessed the miraculous... daily... every time I look at my kids... every deep breath I take... staring up at the stars.... the miracle list is infinite............however, in truth, there are no miracles, because all is in God's Mind (nondualism). All is in God (and, God is pure consciousness).

[@catherinemoreau3419]

Hi, I have a very strong, true, easily proved miracle. Great photos. Please let me know how to get this out here.

[@anonyme2878]

Nigerian lazarus story seems like a cover-up. Too many false resurrection claims have been made by Nigerian pastors. Why on earth would you guys think it’s credible?

[@truthseeker7867]

So the one thing that would have proved death, completing the embalming, didn’t happen. Ok.

[@sillysyriac8925]

Really dude?

[@truthseeker7867]

@@sillysyriac8925 yes really. What other dead body only gets “partially embalmed” anywhere? Then when the morgue guy has his freak out and doesn’t continue embalming they don’t just get a different guy to finish the job? Clear signs this is a terribly run hospital.

[@MrPeach1]

one thing that would be cool is if cameron interviewed his wife.

[@pboxantiques]

There are serious "Fishy" circumstances surrounding the Nigerian Lazarus story. Disappointed to see this example used.

[@shlamallama6433]

"But Betty's healing happened at 3:10, not 3:00!" jk

[@isidoreaerys8745]

Haven’t seen a Shane Dawson YT video in a minute

[@nickfelstead7559]

amen

[@adrianfonseca]

Check out the America Needs Fatima KZbin Channel for a series on witness of the Fatima Miracle

[@michellebryan8148]

True. Fatima's SPINNING OF THE SUN was equivalent to Joshua's time when God made the SUN STAND STILL. It was sort of like " round 2" of God' showcasing his power , for all people to know

[@kinggrimm4338]

Congratulations, where is your million dollar Nobel Prize for proving the existence of God? Nowhere? Still waiting then.

[@mc07]

The first three are quite easy to believe - there have been countless other testimonies of healings. God is at work today. The Spanish one of the amputee, I would need to personally look at the data myself more in depth to see - maybe when Caleb’s book comes out it would be worth reading through in more detail. The last one, hmm, I don’t know. Certainly seems like there was some phenomenon that repeated in different forms. I would need to look more closely at the data once again. Was the light/apparition a visual illusion? Did it occur at night and day? The first few photographs didn’t seem to be very clear. One could visualise them in different ways, and see what they want to see in them. It didn’t really seem like a clear image of a person. And why would such an apparition occur? The similarities in the Bible have to do mainly with Jesus (theophanies in the OT). And Jesus appearing to Paul. At Jesus’ transfiguration both Elijah and Moses appeared. But they were there with Jesus. And didn’t “heal” anyone. It is interesting that there were reported healings that occurred with these apparitions of (allegedly) Mary. I find that strange or odd as Mary never heals anyone in the Bible. There’s nothing at all about her healing anyone. Jesus alone heals. The apostles heal people in Jesus’ name in his power. Jesus alone heals. God alone heals. Scripture is very clear. Perhaps God’s grace in healing these people? In the OT there were Theophanies of God/Jesus. Apart from Moses and Elijah at the transfiguration of Jesus I’m trying to think if there were any other appearances of people other than Jesus. I can’t think of any. So in short, I don’t know what those apparitions were. Were they really of Mary? I would need to study the photographs more closely. It would seem a very strange phenomenon to me if so as it is not supported biblically at all for such a thing to happen that I know of. If there is some phenomenon it is usually pointing to Jesus. Many other miracles are supported. Visions and dreams of Jesus. Healings in Jesus’ power. Resuscitation of the dead. Deliverance from evil spirits. Multiplication of food. Storms being subject to God’s power. Words of knowledge. Surviving otherwise deadly experiences (Paul not dying or even getting sick from a venomous snake bite). Divine appointments. Miraculous travel (Phillip seemingly being whisked away and appearing in another place)… and so on. Also specific OT miracles done through prophets of God.

[@timdom843]

There is no a single doctrine from the catholic church that say Virgin Mary did the miracles by Her Own power. of course that is all about God, just like what the apostles did. and regarding Marian miracles, you can get as much testimonies as you can get by studying the miracles in lourdes, which is still happening until now. there are many sources online that you can search easily. even atheist doctor like Jacalyn duffin admit this.

[@mc07]

@@timdom843 still very strange when there is no biblical precedent for anyone “in heaven” to effect miracles. It takes glory away from God and onto Mary which should raise alarm bells.

[@nosacchfry8458]

Las Lajas! Look it up

[@simmadownnah8788]

How come today's modern miracles are reduced to anecdotal "healing" cases which only involve individuals with internal ailments that are unfalsifiable? For instance, in the Bible there are witnessed ascensions, angels descending from heaven, God setting wet wood on fire, people being turned into pillars of salt, Jesus heals 10 men with leprosy in the gospel of Luke, etc. Doesn't this seem quite odd and unimpressive in comparison?

[@nono-bt8gy]

Why is getting healed from cancer, als, blindness etc. is anecdotal compared to leprosy exactly?

[@simmadownnah8788]

@@nono-bt8gy These are all internal diseases or ailments that are not obvious miracles like those we find in the Bible. Internal ailments are susceptible to misdiagnosis, spontaneous remission and other naturalistic causes. That's why these claims are unfalsifiable whereas the amputee argument should be the bar/standard. Show us a limb or eyeball growing back because it's more obvious and apparent (external) that something truly remarkable has happened. Jesus healed 10 men with leprosy in Luke. He healed many who were sick in Mt. 8:16. He healed two blind men in Mt. 20:29-34. How come modern healings usually only involve one person?

[@zephyr-117sdropzone8]

@@simmadownnah8788 Luke 4:23-27.

[@nono-bt8gy]

@@simmadownnah8788 The obvious problem with your line of arguments is that if we started witnessing limb regrowing (btw ther is one such miracle in this video), you would ask for something else because then you would assume that limb regrowing have a naturalistic explanatuon. You would simply say, "limb regrowing happens spontaneously in nature, therefore show us something else". Also, the cases discussed here have been diagnosed by doctors and documented. For example, if you have been affected by sclerosis for years, can hardly move or breath and then hear a voice telling you to wake up and walk and are immediately and completely healed, it seems very improbable under naturalistic laws and is well "above the bar" imo. (This is the documented case of Barbara Snyder)

[@simmadownnah8788]

@@nono-bt8gy The regrowing limb case from hundreds of years ago and documented only in Spanish doesn't even meet the criteria of an instantaneous healing. You're free to believe what you want but my criticisms are valid and my disbelief is justified for the aforementioned reasons. You're assuming all those details are accurate but you don't really know the exact conditions of these people every step along the way. In my list of biblical miracles, you just cherry picked the leprosy example but ignored all the other stuff.

[@umatveg]

Regarding the Fatima event, here is where Caleb shows his own bias, for several reasons, first, Fátima wasn't a one time event, it was a recurring 6 months apparition to 3 small children who were interrogated with cruelty and abused while it was happening, and yet never recanted nor changed their story, second, the miracle was announced months in advance, fourth, there were other prophecies that came to pass from those apparitions, and finally, mentioning mass hallucinations is begging the question, this is an atheist tactic, and mass hallucinations are not a thing. He said a few thousands, if more that 70, 000 people is a few, then yeah, and it wasn't only the sun dancing, it was the downpour just previous to the sun event, the fact the everyone was completely dried afterwards and that it was recorded, by people of all walks of life, from atheists to believers. It is simple the most widely attested miracle since the resurrection. And if you compare it that to that of the orthodox-coptic church, this one really takes the delivers it. So Calen not getting it into his book makes me think he is not being really objective here.

[@marcfischer114]

Yes but do we have written testimonies about the other miracles close to the events themselves?

[@umatveg]

@@marcfischer114 As I understand it, that is the case

[@Numenorean921]

I wonder if Cameron even knows what fatima is

[@marcfischer114]

I just watched the video. I don't want to be mean against Caleb Jackson but I think this is an example of BAD paranormal research. In order to establish that something is truly paranormal, a necessary condition is to show that all mundane explanations are widely unlikely. I am open to the existence of the paranormal and I believe, for example, that a small number of UAP/UFO incidents resist sceptical explanations. Unfortunately, Caleb Jackson never considered any mundane causes for the four cases. For instance, Greg Spencer truly had an organic blindness but he could have started healing before the day he was prayed for but could not yet see because of psychological factors that got fixed while he was praying. Daniel Ekechukwu's return to life is astounding but it is not medically unexplainable as scientists such as Dr. Sam Parnia have shown that the human brain can still be working properly even though the person is clinically dead. To be sure, that's statistically very rare but very rare things do happen. Betty Baxter's case is more puzzling and she clearly seemed to have had a very severe organic disease. However, we shouldn't take her testimony many decades after the event as infallible and we need to rely on independent documents/testimonies which attest that she couldn't sit up and that her head nearly touched her knees. So far as I know, we have no X rays of her AFTER the healing and we can't rule out the possibility that this was a quick spontaneous remission of her condition possibly helped by the placebo effect.

[@Carlos-fl6ch]

I doubt if cam himself believes this crap. Cam have long ago abandoned his attempt to deal with this questions intellectually. Exorcism is his best viewed so miracles may be the way to try and come close. Its the same old "i don't understand so miracles.

[@sillysyriac8925]

Explain them then.

[@Carlos-fl6ch]

@@sillysyriac8925 Lol. I am laughing my socks of. I say just because we cannot explain the anecdotes told by these people christians say it's magic and your response is to explain them. Lol. Do you actually read?

[@zephyr-117sdropzone8]

@@Carlos-fl6ch Who says it's magic?

[@Carlos-fl6ch]

@@zephyr-117sdropzone8let me see. Imaginary Invisible friends supposedly performing tricks that defy the laws of nature? Hmmm, how van we call that?

[@zephyr-117sdropzone8]

@@Carlos-fl6ch Who said God is imaginary? Who said they're tricks? Who said they defy nature?

[@joe19912]

With 8 billion people on planet earth, we should see thousands of incredibly convincing miracles every day, instead of random anecdotes. Show me an arm grow back and we'll talk.

[@calebjore3295]

What about a leg? Would that satisfy you?

[@Partonnax]

Man idk ab that but I think there’s a cool story ab someone raising from the dead

[@sillysyriac8925]

Why should we see them all the time? How can you prove that God wants everyone to see them all or the time?

[@johnbrion4565]

There is a miracle of a missing limb restored discussed in this video if you watch it.

[@johnbrion4565]

I’ve also potentially witnessed a miracle myself. And you know what it showed me? Precisely why God does not do miracles for us every day. Because it’s easy for us to dismiss them as hallucinations of tricks of light or come up with a million other excuses why there must be some non miraculous explanation. And go back to living the same sinful life as before. Seeing a miracle does not guarantee full conversion. Look what happened to Judas.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

MODERN = 1650 Talk about lowering the bar. HA HA HA

[@calebjackson99]

"Modern" denotates to any period following the end of the medieval era, so anything after around 1500. The Enlightenment and such are periods in modern history. So yes, 1640 is in the modern period.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

@@calebjackson99 Yahweh/Jesus shows up in the Old Testament ALL. THE. TIME. doing magic tricks. Now, you have to go back 350 YEARS ago to get an example. LOL

[@zephyr-117sdropzone8]

@@sanjeevgig8918 Luke 4:23-27

[@willard73]

Weird how the zeitoun photos are consistent with late 1960s photographic effects

[@simmadownnah8788]

And it's also strange that the image lines up with how Mary was depicted in artist renditions. No one knows what Mary looked like so it's pretty suspicious that she looks exactly like depictions that were made centuries after her death.

[@eternaltunes4138]

By the way, habitual miracles on command by his name are true for all disciples (students of Christ): Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. If you have not received you cannot give.

[@TheEpicProOfMinecraf]

That was said only to the Twelve, Judas included... you have missed context for 10:8

[@eternaltunes4138]

@@TheEpicProOfMinecraf Luke 10, he sent the 70 as well. Also, one that was not a apostle was doing the same in Luke 9:49. Roman Catholicism is doing less than Judas, lol. They cannot give what they don't have. The truth stands. Also, Stephen was walking in the same miraculous power Acts 6:8 and of course who was not one of the 12. Again, this premise of only twelve is dissolved throughout the NT and the successors of the apostles.

[@TheEpicProOfMinecraf]

@@eternaltunes4138 It also doesn't say that every follower of Christ will do these things. You're arguing for a vague notion not found in Scripture. If you say that Jesus intended those words for all his followers, that's just silly. In fact, only a specific number were chosen! When it comes to Judas, just know that your interpretation would grant that Judas had just as much salvation... I'm not saying that miracles have ceased. Rather, we aren't given full authority as believers. Some might, but not everybody. (Also, I'm not a Catholic)

[@eternaltunes4138]

@@TheEpicProOfMinecraf So you're arguing without evidence from the scriptures. Did Peter say healing was by some special authority he was given? No. Acts 3:16 And his NAME through FAITH in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all. Scripture above proves that view is false. Peter knew where the power was, faith in his name. So did this guy (not an apostle): Luke 9:49 “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your NAME and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.” Again: James 5:15 And the prayer offered in FAITH will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. So faith in him (His name) gets the job done not some special authority. Again: Luke 10:17 The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your NAME.” Christ rebukes the disciples for not having faith to do Matt 10:8: Matt 17:17 “You unbelieving (faithless) and perverse generation,” Jesus replied, “how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring the boy here to me.” Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. So the idea the the apostles received some special authority is false. Anyone in Christ has the same authority if they have faith in his name. Christ himself clarifies how the signs are done, in his NAME: Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them (Anyone) that believe; In my NAME shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. This is a nail in the coffin: John 14:12 Very truly I tell you, whoever (anyone) believes (has Faith) in me (his name) will do the works (miracles, healing the sick, raising the dead and casting out demons as well as setting sinners free) I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

[@TheEpicProOfMinecraf]

@@eternaltunes4138 So who have you resurrected recently?

[@sanjeevgig8918]

Funny how the frequency of Xtian miracles plummeted after the invention of cameras, then skyrocketed after the invention of Photoshop. LOL

[@zephyr-117sdropzone8]

They never plummeted.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

@@zephyr-117sdropzone8 MILLIONS of CHILDREN dying from CANCER prove you wrong. SMH

[@zephyr-117sdropzone8]

@@sanjeevgig8918 That has been happening for ages. How is that relevant to your original comment, dumbass?

[@sanjeevgig8918]

@@zephyr-117sdropzone8 YHWH/Jesus doesn't do ANY miracles these days. BUT, he is same GENOCIDAL MASS MURDERER he was in the Old Testament. LOL

[@zephyr-117sdropzone8]

@@sanjeevgig8918 Prove it.

[@mickygchannel]

I don't trust anyone named Caleb, for obvious reasons.

[@bramrawlings3051]

Nothing obvious about it…

[@GraceAlone614]

You know what else proves Christianity? The Bible. That's literally all we need when it comes to matters of faith and practice.

[@Wgaither1]

16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16, ESV)

[@johnbrion4565]

I really disagree the Bible is all we need. If that’s the case then there’s no way to argue the legitimacy of one religion over another. Faith and reason is required. Blind belief is not faith.

[@malirk]

What about the Bible proves Christianity?

[@GraceAlone614]

@@johnbrion4565 except we aren't arguing the legitimacy of other religions. I don't see how arguing for other religions has any relevance to understanding scripture. Nowhere in scripture does it say that faith and reason is required. Scripture tells us that we must believe by faith alone. Matthew 24:35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall never pass away." Wisdom and understanding of the scripture comes from the Holy Spirit, not human reasoning.

[@GraceAlone614]

@@malirk everything. The Bible is the Word of God, is it not? God is the author, is He not?

[@ndeepowder]

This is laughable, talk about incredulous...

[@truthseeker7867]

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. This is getting sad.

[@sillysyriac8925]

Explain why they are false then.

[@truthseeker7867]

@@sillysyriac8925 1st one: not showing any documentation of her previous medical history. 2nd one: terrible hospital. The morgue guy gets spooked and doesn’t do the embalming, the one thing that would have definitively confirmed death, and they don’t bother to get someone else to finish the actual job, indicating a complete failure of the hospital. The church light one: They knockdown buildings, search for projectors, do all kinds of stuff, but don’t just walk up to the light. That seems a bit silly. Truly bottom of the barrel stuff. This guy is approaching these with the same level of skepticism of people who go to a psychic when their dog is sick.

[@johnbrion4565]

@@truthseeker7867 wasn’t the first miracle presented a guy? Not a her. With documentation of his blindness.

[@truthseeker7867]

@@johnbrion4565 sorry, I meant the scoliosis woman

[@truthseeker7867]

@@johnbrion4565 just went back and watched the one with the blind guy. How did he rule out fraud? These eye tests are based solely on the reporting of the one who is taking the test. He could have just been trying to get on disability. Later, when he wants to do something that blind people can’t do, he claims he is miraculously healed. Is that possible? Yes.

[@forestofpurple]

How anyone would be believe any of these accounts as credible much less connected to a specific god is beyond me. Scraping the apologist bottom of the barrel here.

[@The_Atheist_Carpenter5625]

I was promised content that would result in raised eyebrows. Expectation: 😳 Reality:😴

[@Germany-qo6ko]

I need a healing miracle. 🙏🎚📖🦋