These NBA Moves Aged Nothing Like We Thought..

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[@goat7651]

Yeah you are stupid thinking Celtics were gonna lose to the Mavericks or the bucks were gonna be the number 1 seed to win the playoffs.

[@calnitty7465]

you gotta give us a full demo on how to use it, like show us how you use your ball trimmers on your balls (for educational purposes of course)

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

The idea of the Rockets trading for Kevin Durant literally makes no sense. The Rockets are a young developing team with no immediate expectations and Ime Udoka already dismissed getting James Harden back, so they're not looking for seasoned veterans to needlessly expedite the growth of their young players. So, what would trading for Kevin Durant even accomplish?

[@darealest2exist260]

I agree with your overall sentiment, as a declining KD who’s still top 10, doesn’t fit the Rockers timeline. However, the Rockets would be insane fit for KD. 4 out of Houston’s 6 best players are back court players, FVV, brooks, Green, Thompson- making it make sense why Harden isn’t a fit.

[@rowen4989]

@@darealest2exist260the fit is nice but with KD I can name 9 teams in the west better than the rockets

[@koala8966]

​@@darealest2exist260 Screw KD bro the Rockets are developing nicely and they ain't letting that get ruined by a snake who proved he can't win without Steph and the warriors. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@GrandBahamaBoy]

@@darealest2exist260 Best case scenario is an early playoff run. Is it worth it long term?

[@bleedgreen2814]

If kd can sneak them in the playoffs it is a win for me. For building a winning culture and playoff experience for the young guys.

[@cheap272]

People act like the kd trade fucked the suns like they didnt trade everyone else on their team for a bum with the worst contract in the league

[@bandoogiemanz]

i question anyone who wants to play with booker.

[@emsj86]

Durant is weak

[@immrlonelyihavenobody4176]

@@bandoogiemanzbooks the only reason the suns are good lol

[@cheap272]

@@emsj86 if ur definition of weak is averaging 27 6 and 5 on 52/41/85 splits while being somewhere between neutral and slightly positive on defense at the age of 35 because he gets high and responds to people on twitter im curious how much fun u have and what the people that know u think of u

[@emsj86]

@@cheap272 and some how every team he has been on since the warriors got worse with him

[@lylaeloise3948]

The Gobert trade led to the Wolves having their best regular and postseason in 20 years, they were one of the last 3 teams in the playoffs because of him... And Gobert was not a liability in the playoffs? Wolves offense and defense were better when Rudy was on the floor, they really struggled with Rudy off the floor in the Mavs series. Did you watch Rudy break up the AG-Jokic lobs or see how he was switching onto guards and clamping them in the Suns series? He's a big reason they got to the WCF. Almost all the Mavs games were single possession games, KAT and Ant were the bigger reasons for the losses. The lobs happened because Rudy came up to contest and the wings did not rotate fast enough to defend the big. You are being harsh on the Gobert trade dude

[@julesm5892]

I swear you can tell if people either don't watch the games or don't know ball when they say gobert is the problem in the playoffs, yes because of him they don't have great spacing but he's the best screen setter in the league and a good lob threat, if he works on his postgame a bit which he has shown to be willing to try in these playoffs coupled with how easily he gets in position in the paint against mismatchs he could be really good, on defense luka is cooking everyone anyway and on pnr he's always in a 1v2 where dropping leads to a floater and going up leads to a lob People also forget they got to the WCF, that's no small feat, beating the nuggets too, when you hear the gobert haters you'd think they got swept in the first round and he was the worse player on the floor That said, on your last point, it's the bigs' job to step up cause the only wing tall enough to contest lively and gafford is mcdaniels and he was on luka for most of the series (which was wrong, ant/anderson should have been on luka because they're bigger and gets moved less while naw/mcdaniels should have been on kyrie, they made the adjustment too late), also when gobert steps up, the guy on luka should recover and then gobert should switch back to naz/kat's man, they didn't do it and that's why luka ended up getting a game winner on him, also bad decision on his part to play the drive too much when dallas needed a three

[@slightexag]

gobert post-ups were part of how the wolves ran their offense and yet he was a good offensive player?

[@AhmetDursun1903]

I wasn't because of Gobert that Minnesota couldn't get over Dallas, it was more KAT's inconsistence

[@MNSportsJunkie101]

Bottom line was he and Ant struggled the first few games of the series while Luka and Kyrie were on fire. By the time they got going it was too late.

[@emsj86]

Wolves over achieved at least

[@Tarquin2718]

Still though they sold their soul for Gobert and he is paid a lot. KAT is not worth 50m/y at all

[@MrE_]

KAT is the one that needs to be traded. Twolves can get the most value out of him now before he sinks his value with more inconsistency or more injuries.

[@AhmetDursun1903]

@@MrE_ facts

[@patterntrader690]

That Skip Bayless take was INSANE

[@jayceeleon]

Everybody and they mama were saying that 😂 he wasn’t the only crazy one

[@jacobfuc827]

They did win

[@trell2100]

Naw fr😂😂😂I was just finna type this

[@Monkeysinthesummer]

@@jacobfuc827the Phoenix suns won the NBA finals lol?

[@Tarquin2718]

All the NBA media takes this year are so damn bad. It is laughable. SUN! → MIN! → DAL! if they were not so anti EU and so pro-black I think they would start to make a lot more sense 🙂

[@dwainfrett5385]

It’s crazy Celtics got rid of their defensive player of the year and their 6th man of the year and then won the championship

[@leoreoibardo9294]

that defensive player become two-way player and who needs 6th man if each of your starters can basically be 1st to 2nd option on any other team.

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Smart overrated as hell. Jrue has always been a better defensive player so smart winning that was just Celtics bias and people not understanding how to break down defense ​@@leoreoibardo9294

[@Historicutuber]

They added better pieces

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@dwainfrett5385 Jrue is significantly better than overrated flopper smart. Jrue shouldve won at least a few DPOYs but people are dumb

[@Calebgthorn]

@@jdrmanmusiqkingcome on man don’t do Smart like that, he was a Celtic through and through and he’ll always have love here

[@davyunwashington3613]

Suns and nets prove that role players and depth as just as valuable or not more valuable than superstars themselves

[@Leon-cy7ud]

the nets kd team when healthy could really win the ring they had the starting 5 and a good bench

[@emsj86]

Why sixers need role players not Paul George or a star

[@davyunwashington3613]

@@Leon-cy7ud had they never traded for James yea they could’ve won

[@davyunwashington3613]

@@emsj86 who the thing in this market isn’t really good role players on the market

[@Leon-cy7ud]

@@davyunwashington3613 nahh james harden was still 80% ish of his prime and was determined to play the role of the playmaking pg which was effective he average 24 and 11 while kd and kyrie averaging 27 on 50/40/90 splits( kd got like 88) so it was just a good trade

[@planetbrooklynsupreme]

Thanasis is the only hope for the Bucks

[@weiyu114]

Yes. Him and Thanos.

[@lightskinkeithsweat2717]

I hate that I laughed at that but it’s somewhat true😭

[@henryviiifake8244]

😂😂😂😂

[@ojnotjuice8345]

Phoenix proving you can't win in the playoffs with a 3 man roster...

[@RaemonClark]

I wouldn't say they a three man roster they had the names it's just when they put them on the court it didn't mesh well at all

[@lorddj9910]

@@RaemonClarkthey had no pg or really any wing defender, the roster was Poorly constructed honestly and they gave up pieces for KD as well.

[@amarigrover2685]

​@RaemonClark They signed a bunch of shooters with nothing else to offer and expected teams to not score either 😂

[@legcoolkid]

we knew that

[@davyunwashington3613]

The nets did as well just a bunch of big name they don’t mesh well and along without have no depth just poorly constructed teams

[@mellod5615]

Bucks messed up bc Dame plays zero defense. Then they let Jrue go to the Celtics and shoot 3s. Wtf lol

[@Kareemle]

do you have any idea what you're talking about? The blazers gave jrue to boston the bucks have no control over that.

[@bandoogiemanz]

jrue didnt play well his last playoffs with the bucks, but i consider lillard a downgrade considering the bucks roster makeup

[@mellod5615]

@Kareemle They gave away the best defending guard for a guard who plays no defense. He woulda never got to the Celtics had they not done that. Do you know what you're talking about?

[@mellod5615]

@bandoogiemanz Giannis was scared to shoot in those playoffs then gave the media a lecture about how there's no failure in sports. Blame doesn't only go on Jrue. But it worked out for him in the end.

[@HomellAlcautor]

Giannis played 2 games that series, injured and scored damn near 30 both of those games. Giannis is also better when he doesn't shoot threes. Not to mention, he didn't really play that series. Make that make sense... They also traded for Dame because Jrue isn't a good 2nd option. In my opinion, Khris should have been traded but regardless Dame is a smart second option.​@@mellod5615

[@colored_lonely]

Best move is Jrue Holiday to Boston, worst move is anything that Suns did.

[@Ty-us5hd]

Here goes Malika Andrews “on paper”🤓☝️

[@omarthescriblomale8279]

Wonder what her body measurements are.

[@MadMadow-lv2lv]

@@omarthescriblomale8279 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

[@jimbobfisher8904]

Ya she’s annoying

[@CookedByJerm]

That annoyed me I went searching for the comment

[@Nocing]

Bro when you really go into celts roster it’s deadass almost 2017 warriors level of TALENT. Tatum JB Holiday D white Kristaps Al horford Tillman and Pritchard are solid role players. They will repeat if the league doesn’t step their shit up

[@EmmanuelAniTheSchism]

100 percent agree. I think the irony of it all is that the Knicks trade that just happened is both an improvement and a lateral move when you compare their situation with the matchup against Boston

[@Comicedits39]

This team doesn’t even come close to the KD Warriors in anyway, That team would sweep this Celtics team

[@Nocing]

@@Comicedits39 delusional if you believe that Tatum/JB - KD/steph Kristaps/holiday - Dray/Klay D white/horford - Iggy and Livingston The top 2 for Boston would be worse, the third and fourth best players would be comparable, but the 5 and 6th are better players. The warriors almost lost to the rockets who choked a 3-2 so they were not untouchable and this Celtics team would gentlemans sweep that rockets team.

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

Nah stop it, the KD Warriors were so dominant they swept prime Lebron. Also before the Finals, everyone was calling the Celtics chokers and every media talking head and community poll was picking the Mavs. That never happened with the KD Warriors.

[@Nocing]

@@LASAGNA_LARRY they swept prime lebron bc they were far and away the better team with the better system as lebrons biggest fan they had enough talent to win one game the team wasn’t ran right and the lebron system where he makes every decision and uses X player as a weapon doesn’t work against high iq teams. And yes every one was calling Celtics chokers as was I but I said TALENT not mentality, not body of work, not resume, talent.

[@tommartyn524]

I’m a suns fan and we need a full rebuild. Durant is old and booker isn’t “ that guy”. Trade them and get our future back. Look to the draft

[@darealest2exist260]

How would you rate D book? Id take guys like KD, ant, lebron, Jokic, embiid, Shai, Luka, Wemby, Tatum, JB, AD, Kawhi, haliburton, curry, Giannis, Brunson. And would tier him up with guys like JB, D mitch, Jimmy, fox & Jamal Murray with JB then Booker 1,2 being the best of that tier & Jamal Murray the worst.

[@Subdivision229]

​@@darealest2exist260I used to rate D Book very high, but after the Dallas stint last year, his rating went downhill.

[@officialconch]

People will laugh at me (and it’s not as good a theory anymore considering the recent coaching situation) but I’ve campaigned for Book to be traded to the Pistons. Sure, people hate on the location but it’s his home franchise and he wanted to be drafted here. Of course he wants to play with a star but _he’s_ a star and i fully believe he can get someone to follow. Plus they already have a PG with All-Star potential in Cade. Booker to Detroit to feed families!!!

[@lennaymaboyyy4848]

@@officialconchthe Pistons don’t really have many players to use as assets though

[@jackedonion3760]

The rudy one was more of a coaching problem not a personnel the celtics showed how to guard the pick n roll perfectly idk why finch keep putting rudy on pick and rolls just let him roam around the rim

[@terrencewalker6535]

being from phoenix and a suns fan, the things that fucked us over is bradley beal trade and matt ishiba. ishiba thinks it’s a damn 2k my league and can just throw players together and say go win. while beal being from a ishiba trade just isn’t who people thought he was , suns need a true PG and big man and we traded for a weak fragile always injured player that put up great numbers on a wizards team that couldn’t win more than 30 games.

[@xenocide1307]

Anyone who would have traded for Bradley Beal and his contract deserves to lose and sink.

[@bandoogiemanz]

terrible deal, i smh when i heard it happened.

[@MrE_]

I can't believe organizations fall for it every time with bad contracts like Bradley Beal

[@Holiidayyyyy]

Injuries arent talked about enough when it comes to sucking the life out a season especially the playoff

[@kalieden5493]

the KD trade isn't even the real problem it was the Beal trade

[@MPEmployee]

Yeah. The KD trade could have took them to the Finals if they built around that team. Selling everything for Beal and having no PG is wild.

[@JohnFKennedy313]

@@MPEmployeethat’s what I thought they were gonna do. I’m a suns fan and I didn’t understand why people were so happy we got Beal when we needed depth but the only depth we got that was consistent was Grayson Allen. Everyone else on our team who was a role player was old and just not effective at all.

[@ogbmt]

Idk about that, look at Mikal Bridges now and Chris Paul now. Mikal Bridges is a player of similar age to their foundational player Devin Booker. He also offers a lot defensively which makes him an excellent complementary piece to Booker. I think most front offices would have considered a player like that to be untradeable. If they had kept Bridges instead of going for Durant, they might also have ended up being able to keep Ayton as well. Imaginining a team where they never traded for Durant but still pulled off the Beal trade, might have also meant that they could get more value out of Beal because the ball would be in Bridges' hands less than in Durant's. I would seriously say that a lineup of Beal, Booker, Bridges, Ayton plus either a point guard or another forward who could play off ball would have a way more stable future and a better window for a a future championship than what they have now.

[@JohnFKennedy313]

@@ogbmt I wouldn’t mind that so much if Beal didn’t have a no trade clause, which makes his contract that much worse 😅

[@ZykeriaRobinson]

What happened to bol bol ?

[@MNSportsJunkie101]

Don't think many people had the Rudy Gobert trade being more successful than the Kevin Durant trade in their books.

[@lowlandlace425]

Opening yt and seeing a Swishout vid is the best feeling ever!

[@wephilips6651]

That’s sad 😢 I hope your life gets better/more exciting 🙏🏽

[@lowlandlace425]

​😂😂😂

[@renmamamiya8840]

I remember last offseason being extremely worried for the celtics when they offloaded one injury prone center only to get another one (granted KP is way more dynamic of a player than timelord but an injured center is still and injured center). Then the stars aligned and they got Jrue.

[@ChunkyCoin]

video starts again @4:38

[@HomellAlcautor]

I understood from Day 1 that Phoenix was a 1st round exit when they traded for Beal. Beal isn't that good, a poor playmaker, good scorer but not great on a terrible contract and got rid of Chris Paul without gaining a PG. It was always a terrible team the moment that trade happened. Same with Brooklyn. A bad roster that just went after names. Griffin isn't an All-Star. LaMarcus was good but not a star. Their biggest problem was that they couldn't stay healthy.

[@michaelthomas1087]

One thing about Bostons front office is they’ll always be making good moves to improve their team.

[@MariE-bz2eq]

Honestly, I thought the celtics got a major upgrade when they got Jrue. Never understood why Milwaukee got rid of him for Dame.

[@ryand8412]

Literally called the outcome of all 3 of theses moves 😂😂

[@The2006Scaper]

Brad Stevens is a genius

[@bonk668]

Everything in Phoenix was self-inflicted. We got Bradley Beal for chump change but now his contract is settling in and we're stuck in purgatory with his contract. When we traded away DA for Nurkic and Grayson Allen, we had no identity when we hired Frank Vogel a known defensive coach but then we had few athletic wings and didn't get one in Feb. Mat Ishbia did a lot to make winning moves in the summer but in the regular season, it felt like he spent too much time building up the community (which I'm not mad about) rather than focusing on the actual team.

[@Trick.Ricky.Sternn]

@4:05 that shorty has more faith in her too than she does in the phoenix suns 😂😂👀

[@dudochalmers10]

An underrated move has been Lauri Markkanen in my opinion. Even if he gets traded, they will receive a lot of value for him.

[@brucelston]

Whose we? I always thought dame was overrated and trading their best defender was a terrible idea. Should’ve been obvious it was bad move when SAS thought it was the best idea since sliced bread.

[@Renegade-kf8fp]

And add the entire nba social media thinking that they were the next Kobe and shaq

[@IrvingDL506]

How about the flippers? All they gave, including SGA for PG for him to turn into pandemic P, hit the side of the backboard, choke a 3-1 lead, have absolutely nothing to show for but a conference finals appearance which they lost AND, (still TBD) PG prolly be on the move

[@TheEliWay]

Swishout back at it with another video!!! The NBA offseason finna be wild this year 🔥🔥🔥

[@tommymy210]

Bro cavs are good they’re still developing a young core, have an identity, and a bona fide young superstar. When healthy this season they were at least top three in the east and they even took a game of the Celtics this playoffs before Mitchell got hurt. I wouldn’t say the Donovan Mitchell trade was a bad idea at all

[@marvdatboi]

League is evolving from a solely superstar league into actual team hoops

[@Asaenz2468]

Spurs trading Dejounte leading to their tank for Wemby was by far the best move over the last two years

[@jmckie45]

The worst move was my team trading for Dejounte. The best move was getting Jrue from Milwaukee and Portland to Boston.

[@DatMexicanJesus]

SWISH DA GOAT

[@EmmanuelAniTheSchism]

I don't think the Kyrie trade actually worked out long term for dallas. Mainly because, we are betting the farm that Kyrie stays healthy. I know he did this season, but it's not a guarantee every season

[@Mptappin12]

1:00 let’s be honest they were not gonna be in dynasty without Kevin Durant. Obviously they can win without him, but I hate when people act like They weren’t getting completely demolished without Kevin Durant in the 2019 finals.

[@MaolCholuim]

Dame was hurt and dealt with off the court issues, he's come out and said he wasn't in shape coming into the season, the Bucks will be fine

[@darkvader2024]

They have a clear coaching disadvantage against any team in the playoffs and have issues defensively that if they don't fix it, they will be stuck relying on Giannis and Brook to solve all their problems (drop coverage to save the day?? lol). And you really need Giannis to not be worn-out come playoffs. Not again.

[@GetenIce]

Rockets have so many assets and I think people underrate it bc they don’t have a superstar player like SGA in OKC

[@MPEmployee]

I think we need to be patient. OKC traded for SGA off potential. He was young and a could fit for their future. I agree with you though. If Amen could turn into that it would be a free star. I don't think we should trade for KD tho... too short term. Perhaps Trae Young?! Idk.

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

KAT was the problem, not Rudy. I’m not even a wolves fan and that’s clear as day.

[@rapaore]

Dallas will not repeat this feat in the next few years as long as they build on this lineup. They need another star to build around. Kyrie will not be enough for the future. Just like Miami in 2020, they weren't supposed to be there this year either. They didn't have the talent or the ability to win the championship and they were awarded a mismatched that went completely in their favor. This luck will not repeat itself...

[@smag7477]

Dallas needed more playmaking on the offense, the blow by stats are such a cop out. Only casuals think defense lost them the finals. Thank god Nico got them some shooters instead of defensive wings that are useless or streaky on the offense.

[@saz19s8]

2020: Bucks traded for Jrue Holiday ➡️ wins the championship 2023: Celtics traded for Jrue Holiday ➡️ wins the championship

[@yealogan3122]

KD has the most cursed legacy. Insanely good player but damn

[@officialconch]

This is an absolute banger

[@slightexag]

gobert getting played off the court or made irrelevant in playoff series is why everyone hated that trade in the first place, but people see gobert play incredible regular season defense and then completely forget that he is has no defensive flexibility. he might be the least impactful dpoy in the playoffs ever

[@newpancakeman]

For some reason, I’m giving Minnesota the benefit of the doubt and saying Chris Finch couldn’t plan for Dallas properly with the injury. I got high hopes for them next season

[@finessewrld23]

Imo gobert needs to work on aleast having a mid range this offseason cuz his liability on the offensive side of the ball is hurting teams he gets on

[@bucksfan1945]

Dame and giannis gonna prove everybody wrong 😈

[@jordanbenson9094]

Try and stay healthy first

[@wh0.tf_]

@@jordanbenson9094 having a summer where ur actually able to work out would probably help w that

[@duplexarco]

Nah we seen it. No chemistry and aura together. This is a wings league now and having 2 dominant battle tested forwards like JT n JB on a same team, better pray you not get swept

[@toromaru0912]

4:04 DAYUM GYAT

[@michaelwhite4004]

I think the suns show that you can't win with a big 3 and you need a complete all around roster with some depth overall as a whole to be great or go on a deep playoff run.🏀💯

[@1up__]

KD is just a 🤡 at this point

[@darkvader2024]

If Bucks could replace Doc with a semi decent coach and get some perimeter defenders, I would be overjoyed. Imo losing Jrue just showed that this team had lots of underlying issues defensively. Look at that Miami series. Jrue, their only perimeter defender, was a mismatch against the bigger Butler. And they couldn't go to anyone else that whole series to help contain. They folded their hands and died. They traded Jrue because they looked at that series and concluded what they needed was firepower, without considering they had still had no perimeter defense besides Jrue. Plus, Budd couldn't effectively make adjustments, but instead of hiring a coach who could, they went for an inexperienced coach, then Doc. I hate this fromt office honestly.

[@michaelwhite4004]

I mean Charles Barkley was right on this that the timberwolves need to go small overall against the Mavs because gobert constantly hurt there spacing and really didn't give Anthony Edwards enough room to operate to get downhill when he couldn't. I think if Chris Finch would have started naz reid and played him more they be in a much more better positions and probably would have been more extremely competitive overall.🏀💯

[@toughcattamgaming3311]

4:04 DAMNNNNNNN

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

KD trade was fine. They woulda went to the finals had they kept CP3 but the beal trade absolutely destroyed the team

[@sconartist]

I’m not as optimistic about the Bucks as others, but I’m willing to give them another year to prove me wrong. The Suns on the other hand don’t get seem to get held to the same standard in the media. They’ve fallen further and further away from the finals run in ‘21, yet they don’t get the same scrutiny as other franchises. They deserve the terrible future that their inept ownership mortgaged away.

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

As a brooklyn nets fan despiste all the drama and chaos of the last 2-3 yrs I think we're finally on the right path again

[@string7135]

7:33 sounds like you’re rapping on the beat 😂

[@rize1926]

IMO try aged exactly how I thought. In todays nba best defense wins because of how high scoring the league has become.I still can’t believe that the bucks traded Jude holiday instead of Keri’s Middleton to get Damian Lillard. On paper dame is a better scorer then Jude holiday but overall he’s not soo much better that it warrants going all in for a guy like him who doesn’t play defense. Add the fact that you trade away one of the few dudes in the league who could potentially match up against lillard to the biggest threat in your division being the Celtics, ( even though they didn’t trade jrue straight to the C’s directly) doesn’t make sense to me and it’s not a coincidence that the bucks defense was terrible this year because no matter how good your scorers are, scoring only takes you so far if you can’t defend the best of them in this league.

[@prodbyspazz7907]

Shout out Madonna

[@somregularguy]

I thought this team would learn from the Brooklyn trades, they could’ve won it all had they not traded their depth for harden, if they had traded for depth instead of Beal they would be MUCH better

[@JJS1609]

Worst trade gotta be the Bradley Beal one. Killed any flexibility the Suns had left and only gave them awful playoff performances

[@whoozyyy]

Shout out to Manscaped 🏀🏀⚽️

[@Goatlikeitornot]

No

[@GunnShotVisuals]

WORST MOVE NETS TRADING FOR BEN SIMMONS HANDS DOWN WORST PLAYER AND CONTRACT IN HISTORY

[@chanendlerbong]

Brad Stevens gotta be like the reincarnation of Jerry West

[@duplexarco]

The logo chose death over seeing Celtics win another 😂

[@wephilips6651]

I agree with the analysis of the kyrie trade but don’t share the confidence that the existing flaws will be addressed. I am skeptical Kyrie will be as effective next season and I don’t think Luka will ever properly address his weaknesses…partly because no one in the organization is strong/powerful enough to make him. He has too many autonomy and a cultish fan base which never criticizes him for anything and constantly makes excuses for everything he does or doesn’t do. I think he’s just suffered from being too talented and no to one guide him. He’s still young but yeah I’m skeptical he’ll be sufficiently reflective enough to work on his defense. And against the Celtics you can’t have a team where only 3 or 4 players play defense more effectively than a training cone

[@bandoogiemanz]

I feel like mavs are a one and done. To be fair though, even though jokic doesnt come off like doncic does, jokic used to be criticized for his conditioning and body and he worked on and improved those things, so its possible luka can as well, but im not saying id bet on it.

[@vanilla.77]

14:00 he played for 4 teams not 2

[@gigachad6582]

To be fair the bucks got dame basically at the start of the season so he wasn't able to practice with them and he was in the middle of a divorce, then the bucks changed head coaches mid season then giannis got injured and missed the playoffs completely. With a full off season to practice and work as a team and gain some cohesion I think they will preforme significantly better maybe they won't win a ring depending on the circumstances like injuries and who they face in playoffs but I think they will be well above 500 and get at least past the first round

[@1Joseph25]

Nah Phoenix and Brooklyn different tho, it was kinda clear if healthy the Nets woulda definitely made the Finals (and if Lakers/Clippers was healthy them too) and were destroying the bucks even with harden injured, and Harden Kyrie KD brought different elements and kinda were able to mesh very well together, the Suns even tho they started hot were clearly fraudulent, barely beat the Clippers with just Russ with extreme help from officials, prolly woulda got sent home in 5 if Kawhi ain’t get hurt

[@Renegade-kf8fp]

Dame was always going to be a scapegoat as long as Mr 34 is on the bucks

[@kobebeanburner6530]

Should the Heat trade Jimmy butler? And should the warriors get rid of Klay for pg

[@IXCANADATV]

Kevin Durant should go to the Knicks magic warriors or thunder

[@connorarmas]

I’m not sure how anyone fell for the suns hype, we already knew putting a bunch of big names together doesn’t equate to rings, anyone who picked them over the timberwolves in the first round I question your ball knowledge and general intelligence.

[@bandoogiemanz]

i know how at least for the media, its sport talk, its about senationalism. I'm less forgiving for fans because anyone objectively analyzing that team would have known there was no absolutely zero shot for them to win a title.

[@aimc00232]

The naz reid and KAT thing makes no sense in reality though. Dallas killed the Twolves everytime gobert was on the bench, I don't understand how people are still acting like that didn't happen

[@tommartyn524]

If I’m thunder, I’m going after giannis. Chet and 3 first round picks for giannis. Thunder should be in win now mode

[@gnm4]

Milwaukee without Giannis is simply cheese

[@jamiezakharia9646]

imo thunder have already addressed their biggest issue from the playoffs that kept them from advancing by trading giddey for caruso. I think that move alone, along with shai, year 2 chet, and continued jdub improvements is enough to take them to the finals in 2025

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

@@gnm4Giannis signed an extension with the Bucks last year. He’s not going anywhere. Also the East is easier.

[@michaellivingston8881]

2:55 i hope the people in my life would tell me to give it up if i ever walk around like that.

[@dwainfrett5385]

Suns shouldn’t have gotten rid of DeAndre Ayton. They already got rid of Monty Williams. I don’t see why they got rid of him too

[@AhmetDursun1903]

Celtics is the best run franchise by far

[@michaelmayers3622]

They needed kd to beat bron. Lebron the goat and my fav player but it diminishes what he did agianst gs by saying they didnt need kd. It makes people think curry better than magic jhonson but he needed help from kd. Lets not forget kd was the 2 best player in the league by far after prime bron

[@robertgibsonv7943]

I think the best move was the Shai trade to the Thunder in 2019

[@chrisbeach423]

The Wolves HAVE to trade Gobert to have a chance at anything next year. They could get a couple role players for him

[@symonwatson6972]

Every take based on name instead of fit will almost always fail

[@edwinchavez1765]

Worst: Warriors trade Poole for CP3, and then this year waive CP3 for nothing.

[@nocturne3677]

jae crowder for FIVE SRPs???

[@SDesWriter]

Significantly better defensively on the wings? Are you high? Dallas had the best defense in the league last year for the last two months of the season and through the playoffs. They may not have been able to score in the finals, but they busted the 20 points of game below their season average, even with everybody bitching about Luka’s defense. The only thing that kept Dallas from winning that series that they were supposedly dominated in was lack of scoring contribution from their role players. Kyrie had a bad series and still wound up at 20 PPG, and as injured as Luca was, he averaged 30/10/6. The one game their role players shot even their regular season average, Dallas won by the third most points in the history of the NBA finals.

[@SDesWriter]

And about Luka’s defense that he supposedly can’t have because it’s so awful, if it was so bad how did they hold Boston to 101 PPG? If his blow buys were damaging to their defense, where is the evidence in points scored? Boston never scored above 100 to 7 points in the series. Five fucking All-Stars who can hit three-point shots at a high percentage and they averaged 101…. And people constantly bitch about Luka’s defense. If he wasn’t hurt and simply played the same as he has in every other playoff series or during the regular season, they would’ve won both of those seven point losses and it would’ve been 3-1 Mavericks going into game five. Dominated? How, exactly?

[@beagleeye18]

The Nets trading for Harden and The Lakers trading for Westbrook were terrible trades.

[@jeromemaiquez3108]

agree with everything except the gobert take, the stats unanimously say the wolves got better with him on the floor vs on the bench...

[@lorddj9910]

Yet he was getting out rebounded by guards and somehow someway the Mavs had 3 games where they scored over 60+ points in the paint

[@Laidback718]

Brooklyn Nets trade for harden worst move😢😢

[@bandoogiemanz]

it was due to unforseen circumstances(covid, mandates) but for kyrie harden and kd, it looks like those are guys where there has to be no issues in the environment otherwise they get annoyed and discontent fairly quickly. There doesnt seem to be any stick-to-it-veness through adversity, so if you invest in them you have to hope nothing unforseen happens.

[@seanblackwood8382]

I'm stuck where Mavs are stuck, what is the move, idk 😕

[@williammason352]

KD & Book were enough. Acquiring Beal & his huge salary left little to no room for strong support guys. They need to get off Beal's contract & salvage what little time they have left of a productive KD to win soon.

[@zod548]

Gobert ain’t why they lost that series, Ant and Kat being straight up garbage is what hurt them more. Gobert shouldn’t have played that many minutes, but the games didn’t come down to his defense, it was their dreadful offense which as been the case all year.

[@ND-OPS]

believe it or not the wolves are better with gobert on the floor vs dallas. it's just the media always hating on gobert

[@SDesWriter]

People get all the wrong messages from the problem with the Suns. They don’t have a point guard. They have a stagnant offense where three different people take turns playing iso ball. They have no personality to their team or role players. They could’ve brought in any top 15 point guard in exchange for Beal and they would’ve instantly been a contender. Instead they took their best scorer and made him a half assed point guard who no longer shoots as well as he used to, let Durant do his own thing and get 27 points on good shooting with no major effect on the team, and have virtually no bench. You guys might’ve thought they were a lock to win a championship but I never did. I couldn’t believe they brought in a shooting guard to go along with their other shooting guard and a small forward they were playing forward because they just didn’t have anybody else to play the position.

[@JMHStudioproductionsLLC]

Suns needed to keep Deandre Ayton