These Walls Are Dry... I'll Take My Chances

Star Trek · The Next Generation · s04e09 · Final Mission
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[@JWMcLay]

Gotta love the Steps created by 'volcanic activity'

[@adventuressurvivalinthailand]

Can we just assume that inhabitants have carved stairs in the intervening millenia

[@JWMcLay]

@@adventuressurvivalinthailand yeah yeah we know 😋

[@gingersnap8036]

😂😂 i came to the comments in search of this one

[@Denominator765]

"This cave is not a natural formation."

[@DavidAWA]

We mostly see Picard in command situations with a well trained crew or social situations where his rank doesn't mean anything. But sometimes we see his leadership with individuals and groups who aren't obligated by oath to follow him (think when he was kidmapped with the warrior, pacifist and ensign). And the writing in these episodes is really good. The way Picard shows respect for this captain with "You're an able pilot, I value your input" to stroke his ego and deescalate the conflict between him and Wesley, but also being decisive, even if it means just taking his belongings. Picard just handles himself in a very believable way.

[@Vespyr_]

That was a dick move, but it was a power play. He detected the guy was rogue and had to establish himself.

[@johnnybikesalot]

Water flows or lava flows, I don't think either of them carve staircases into the rock :)

[@hydraxc2478]

Even the lava is more advanced in the future.

[@Padge112]

I don't know though. The Giants Causeway wasn't carved by FinMccool. And it looks pretty steppy.

[@Dowlphin]

You can figure it out if you think hard.

[@feralbigdog]

it could be that there might have been a desert colony there at one point, they would have altered the terrain to be more comfortable for them, including making stairs

[@zedwms]

What a glorious age of Star Trek. We will never see the like again.

[@Dowlphin]

I am right now.

[@OneEyedKeys]

Riker handles this like a Boss, like usual. This is why the Flagship needed 'two' Captains, and not a run of the mill Commander.

[@markshaw7253]

When Roddenberry wrote next gen, he eliminated the rank of commodore, otherwise they could have promoted Picard and left him in overall command while Riker took over day to day command of the ship.

[@OneEyedKeys]

@@markshaw7253 I did not know. Thanks for the comment!

[@markshaw7253]

@@OneEyedKeys years ago, I got a hold of the writer's Bible for the show and there's a ton of interesting stuff in there. For example, Roddenberry wanted to extend the human life span so that tos actors could guest without extensive make up.

[@OneEyedKeys]

@@markshaw7253 Another interesting tidbit. It would have made sense considering technological advancement, and also as an attractive highlight for fans of older generations. I did not know there was a 'writers bible' for the show. Could you expand on that if you have a moment? Thanks for the comments!

[@markshaw7253]

@@OneEyedKeys years ago I attended a convention not long after tng premiered. At a table a gentleman was selling scripts from various films and TV shows. He had a copy of the TNG writers Bible. A summary of Characters and the set up.for prospective writers. Quite a bit was changed before it went on the air. For example, Picard was supposed to be 96 but look around 40. Unfortunately, while I looked through it, I didn't buy it.

[@rkbkirin5975]

They manage to get the sense of the massive scale of the barge compared to the Enterprise, I wish they could have done the same with Romulan Warbirds. The series never really made Warbirds look as big as they should imo.

[@danivarius]

Cave formed by volcanic activity… and a set of stairs right there!

[@spikedpsycho2383]

Alcohol is a diuretic, meaning it increases the amount of water your body eliminates through your urine. Normally, as you become dehydrated your pituitary gland releases a hormone that causes your body to start retaining more water, helping to reverse any dehydration.

[@Dowlphin]

LOL, no, not reverse. Slow. And losing water to retain water is a silly proposition. The body does it as an emergency measure when things are already bad. Here's another way you can lose water to get the body into preservation mode: do nothing, just wait!

[@RobsonRoverRepair]

"I'm alright....." I've dated enough redheads to know that is a the battle cry of your own death if you utter another sentence.....

[@divinityquartz3428]

You can't lie to an empath about your feelings.

[@mulgerbill]

@@divinityquartz3428 this IS Deanna we're talking about...

[@Josh-99]

Married one. Can confirm.

[@allyourpie4323]

Well,switch to phrases and fragments then I guess....

[@DrWhoHarvey]

In other words nod politely...then run do not walk to the nearest exit.

[@Skzzlemister]

It's medicinal, for my....uh....stomach pains.

[@ajax5622]

Glaucoma, its for my glaucoma.

[@NightRunner417]

I immediately thought of the old miner in "Time's Arrow": "It is most unfortunate. I require large amounts of whiskey as a liniment.”

[@stevengalloway8052]

Picard: Well, we're going to drink this with our beans, sir, and that's final! (Wesley nods) 😆

[@Dowlphin]

It is, of course, code speech for "it's addictive".

[@WizelBalan]

Riker could have evacuated all non essential personnel to the saucer section, separate and have what people remain in the star-drive wear protective clothing and what not instead of risking the entire crew to radiation. They were not using the saucer impulse engines so they had no need for it at the time, no need to risk everybody.

[@TheTattorack]

Did they have time to do that? That plan is all well and goo, but it takes time to get all those people to the necessary quarters and to distribute all that equipment to the required personnel,

[@AlexanderRM1000]

There are a *lot* of episodes where separating the saucer section as a matter of course would be a good idea. Might be best to just assume they do it but don't show it for budget reasons in any episodes where it would make sense. Of course what they should really do is have specialized ships- science/exploration vessels, warships, transports, tugboats etc- the reason they're all in one is so they can have a show about the Enterprise, but the saucer separation is a good way to have some of the advantages of that and it's a shame they don't use it more.

[@KingdaToro]

Really there are two courses of action that make sense here, and both involve saucer separation. If the saucer section is capable of towing the barge on its own, do that and move all nonessential personnel to the drive section, and take the drive section to search for the shuttle. If not, evacuate everyone to the saucer section and remotely control the drive section to tow the barge, while the saucer section maintains a safe distance. I can't think of any reason why the ship wouldn't have this remote control capability.

[@KingdaToro]

@@TheTattorack It works either way. Generations established that it takes less than 5 minutes to evacuate everyone from the drive section to the saucer. Even if that wasn't enough time, they could begin the tow with the full ship, then separate the saucer during the tow once they're ready.

[@gaspainsify]

@@KingdaToro I think canonically most of the non-essential personnel are either in the saucer section already or within the "neck" section of the engineering hull.

[@blackbot7113]

Great idea lying about your feelings to the Empath!

[@Dowlphin]

It's just Deanna. 😆

[@Paul-A01]

Not necessarily, this cave could have been created by beans.

[@stevengalloway8052]

Oh, indubitably... 😆

[@DblOSmith]

Crusher's Triforce bag was never seen again.

[@blazerocker1734]

I'd bet ten grand that the person that made that bag was a Legend of Zelda fan.

[@Afterburner215]

@@blazerocker1734 apparently the Triforce symbol predates the games, so who knows.

[@blazerocker1734]

@@Afterburner215 I don't know anything about that, I just know that the first two Legend of Zelda games came out before this episode.

[@arc7375]

The symbol has long predates the Zelda series for hundreds of years. And fractal triangles have always existed.

[@spikedpsycho2383]

what volcanic activity makes a perfect set of steps

[@Dowlphin]

You can figure out this puzzle if you think really hard.

[@ericstoverink6579]

That barge looks like its design was somewhat inspired by Red Dwarf.

[@DarthGTB]

No emergency water, but yes emergency vodka. First things first!

[@ajax5622]

My moisture reading is low, getting myself a non replicated beer thank you please.

[@Dowlphin]

Wow, those dilettantes. They cannot scan the hull for structural integrity? How is a thruster outright flying off a surprise? Also might have taken it much more gently. Also, why didn't they use Geordi's fancy course-plotting-through-asteroid-field-with-minimal-thrust simulation? Down in the cave, how can Picard conclude the cave wasn't shaped by water? The water might have been gone for a long time.

[@bobpage6597]

1:05......"Its called Dresci, its from my planet." Basically alien whiskey then.

[@cugamer8862]

Ensign Allenby was quite cute.

[@JM.TheComposer]

I always wondered why the Enterprise didn't just use the tractor beam for a short time, and then rush ahead and use phasers to clear any asteroids. No need to keep the tractor beam constant when the barge doesn't have air resistance, and the whole goal is to send it into a star.

[@bridgecross]

I always wondered why one barge of radioactive waste would be a problem in space. Space is filled with radiation, and the barge is infinitely tiny compared to the distances involved.

[@BennyT_3434]

Great thing about this episode are some of the cool shots we get of the Enterprise D, switched it up from the stock footage they use over and over again

[@WardenWolf]

Wherein they forget that space is 3-dimensional. Attach a tracking device to the barge. Use the tractor beam to sling it on a course away from the planet and asteroid field in a general direction towards the sun, such that it won't have escape velocity, leave and go find Picard and Wesley, and then come back and either finish slinging it into the sun or verify it's gone.

[@stars9084]

Thrusters blowing off seems to be a theme in this episode....

[@NorfolkCatKickers]

where did those steps come from??

[@NightRunner417]

These are a fine example of the famous "volcanic steppes" often seen in geologically active regions. That fuckin' obviously carved doorway, now... water erosion?

[@kutter_ttl6786]

Probably carved out by the aliens that made the force field protecting the water source they found deeper in the cave.

[@NorfolkCatKickers]

@@kutter_ttl6786 agree but as viewer to me I see steps there was probably intelligent life here, and yet the two starfleet people who are experts at this stuff ignore it.

[@sirannikus]

It was very considerate of the lava to make a doorway and stairs! 😁

[@stevengalloway8052]

As long as the beans are safe, that's all that matters... 😆

[@warrenjones7395]

That title tho! 😂😂😂

[@florbfnarb7099]

Jesus, JUST ALTER THE THING’S COURSE SO IT’S SET TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE PLANET. Come back a month later and then just blow it up.

[@MarginalSC]

Shame they can't just attach a few probes and have those push it.

[@sneaksyranger]

The Nitpicker's Guide to Trek suggested pulling the barge out of the orbital plane of the asteroid field and then just point it at the star and go.

[@florbfnarb7099]

@@sneaksyranger - Makes sense.

[@Afterburner215]

@@sneaksyranger alternatively, use the tractor beam over multiple orbits to set the barge on an escape trajectory from the planet, leave for the other system, come back and then set the trajectory of the barge to collide with the sun (asteroid belt be damned)

[@Dowlphin]

Imagine they do that, go rescue the captain, then come back and the barge is gone. 😄 And they search but don't find. And have to give up. And it keeps bugging them for the rest of their life, where that damn dangerous barge went.

[@user-xt4uf6ij6w]

those steps by lava flow...

[@Josh_Fredman]

One of many times when "separate the saucer section" would've been the right call.

[@Dowlphin]

They didn't want the FBI to interfere in the delicate operation. 😆

[@MozTS]

good old planet hell caves set, used all the way till ENT

[@CreationsVibration]

Plot twist: the shuttles engines run on alcohol

[@malcolmt7883]

We'd like to explore this mysterious cave, but nobody brought a flashlight.

[@TerryAllenSwartos]

1:37 “Captain Dirgo, will you lead the way? Pizza delivery boy, you follow him, and I’ll take up the rear.“

[@SansoHumar]

May the beans be with you

[@contrafax]

More Beans For Riker!!!

[@kevinmencer3782]

I'm not entirely sure how the radiation is the problem in the first place. Does this planet not have an ozone layer or ionosphere?

[@svensorensen7693]

Lava? Water? No, steps like that are only carved by beans

[@jessicaslater4243]

Strange how you can *see* the differences in the way people communicate now vs. back in the 80s and 90s. Beverley is insistent that she's fine when clearly she's not, and Troi is trying to beat around the bush in talking about it. Compare that to how current generations are more encouraged to express their feelings. You'd have Beverley just flat out tell Troi "Listen, I can't help but worry. I just need to do some work to take my mind off of it until I'm ready to process it."

[@edherdman9973]

Gotta have something strong to wash these beans down.

[@greanstreak04]

500 bean salad...

[@jackgibsxxx0750]

Those steps sure are NOT volcanic. 👽👽👽👽👽👽

[@alankwok2210]

Anyone notice the set of stairs at the entrance of the caves. I think someone lives here.

[@Dowlphin]

Anyone notice that comment right here, the one I am writing right now?

[@Ben82077]

Geordi: We lost one module. Attempting to compensate. (Meanwhile in the module launch bay, an Engineering crewman notices the module gone, with the attachment parts still on the table.) Crewman: Where did the module I was working on, go? (Sees the module falling toward the planet)…Oh there it is…😐

[@AdmiralJT]

Heres an idea, tow the barge enough to get it moveing away from the planet, attach a probe to it as a bacon, go rescue Picard and Crusher, then come back and finish destroying the barge

[@Dowlphin]

Mmmmm! Bacon! Good idea!

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

There you go again with those suggestive titles!

[@tjwparso]

😎

[@dT6E7hmja4iXjsJw]

I kept waiting to hear Nick Tate say "Main motors!"

[@ColumbiaB]

Dirgo: “There has to be water in here. Aren’t caves formed by water?” Picard: “Not necessarily. This could be created by volcanic activity - lava flow. These walls are dry.” I guess it would have been too obvious to add, “And those steps at our feet - another sure sign of volcanic activity.” Seriously, was there no one involved in the production of the show who gave two seconds of thought to the logical implications of the details of set design? No one who said, “If these guys enter a cave and see steps carved in the stone of the floor, it will be instantly obvious to all three of them that it means intelligent life has been at work in there. Their remarks will reflect that, and their conduct thenceforward will reflect that realization”?

[@Benglator1]

What is really funny is how upset you are over a tv show and expecting it to be factual according to you. Did it ever occur to you that after the lava stopped people could have went in there and carved the steps out. It would not be the first time in the real world that it has happened. Tunnels no matter how formed are never the same after man finds them. :)

[@ColumbiaB]

@@Benglator1 - Which makes the same point: the steps are thunderously obvious evidence of the activity of intelligent life, and yet the three characters act oblivious to them. I get the concept of allowing for artistic license within the practical constraints of a one-hour tv drama. But something like this is an unforced error that is so blatant as to compromise one’s willing suspension of disbelief - at least for those paying at least a little attention, and thinking at least a little about what they’re watching.

[@NightRunner417]

@@Benglator1 I'm upset because I wanted to be the first to call these morons out for rambling about the processes forming caves when it's clearly FAR more important that intelligent life carved frickin doors and stairs into the frickin thing. Intelligent life, especially Star Trek's human-biased "intelligent life" has a far greater interest in water than geological processes do. If they're lucky they might even find a refrigerator hooked up to a fusion generator in there somewhere. At very least a hand carved well to go with their hand carved reception area. Go ahead, tell me if you landed on an alien planet and discovered carved doors and stairs, your first comment wouldn't be, "Whoa, doors and stairs! Civilization!" "This cave could be carved out by the action of water..." "Shut up, Wesley! Civlization!"

[@Benglator1]

If tv riles you up like this I would suggest finding a different hobby. Unless of course you get triggered over anything not agreeing with how you see things. Its a tv show get a grip. lololol

[@ColumbiaB]

@@Benglator1 - Projection, much? •You’re• the one showing he’s riled up, triggered because I’ve made comments you take issue with . . . or, more likely, that you simply can’t understand.

[@DavidAWA]

3:53 hmm. 70 millirads. Not great, not terrible.

[@philipbergmann519]

Picard shouldn't have misplaced his Stillsuit.

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

If only the _Enterprise_ had a way to separate half the ship so non-essential personnel didn't risk radiation poisoning...

[@scotthamp384]

Boy, Beverly is a good liar

[@WhittyPics]

Steps formed in a cave?

[@LordSpleach]

THEY CALLED THE ENTERPRISE A GARBAGE SCOW!!!!

[@davidgriffiths7696]

Ah poor Deanna…fuzzy emotional sharing skills not useful oh dear😁

[@gargoyles9999]

If only there was something she could crash the ship into

[@kenp7814]

Same cave the aliens were attacking Mark Twain?

[@fluffysheap]

It's the same cave as every cave. They change the lighting, shooting angle, and props to make it look different for each episode, plus relying on the viewer to forget exactly what it looks like during the week. They do a good job, but once you see it, you can't really un-see it.

[@Dowlphin]

I read Mars Twain at first. Then I read Mark Twain. But I found it boring.

[@matthewgreenwood4286]

Why not separate the ship and do both.

[@ThanatoselNyx]

Saucer probably not powerful enough to pull the derelict.

[@highlandoutsider8148]

Saying " I'm fine" when your not to an empathic counselor 🤦🏻

[@Dowlphin]

But it is just Deanna. 😄

[@jessa1895]

It’s a really good episode except Wesley is in it.

[@shanenway3684]

If this real Wesley would have been shot for the booze

[@highlandoutsider8148]

Why dya think Picard made him carry it? He gets to shoot the douch bag pilot and it gets him out of paying child support🤣 Jean Luc ain't no fool.

[@FromDream2RealityNow]

So nobody is gonna comment on the title? 😅🤣😜

[@tjwparso]

@Aggressive Attitude Era commented on it 😎

[@Dowlphin]

Picard: _This alcohol is far more useful to us than to you. ... I might have to get drunk to be able to bear your incompetence._

[@zacharythorpe3524]

Am I the only one who noticed Picard should probably taken a swig in celebration of making it across the desert rather than confiscating it from a clearly self-conscious man...err, captain? Alcohol is a social lubricant and to be honest maintaining group cohesion is more important than one dude or two dudes, er, i mean captains having a quick drink. The guy is clearly scared AND armed, so idk how Picard thought this was gonna turn out well. He's an alcoholic, he can handle it. Or you could use it as a coolant? Somehow? P.S. SHUT UP WESLEY!

[@arc7375]

No.