Tuning a Turbo 1GZFE Toyota V12.

[@theskidfactory]

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[@coreyw427]

Good explanation of torque and cylinder pressure by Kai, many tuners don’t seem to realise this which is concerning

[@simbanugz2906]

100% agree

[@craigdavies69]

Been watching dyno tunes on KZbin for damn near 10 years now, Kye is probably the best I have seen at explaining and simplifying it for us viewers, awesome work. Looking forward to more Kevin the sicko content 👍

[@UnexplainedHoveringSpheroid]

Kai is an encyclopaedia of tuning knowledge. He always drops some useful nuggets of info. A true professional.

[@yowie0889]

But 'No one is the suppository of all wisdom' according to a certain ex Prime Minister.

[@TurbineResearch]

Listening to Kye talk about waste gates actually solved a problem I have been facing with my own turbo car ❤

[@costerjeffries281]

The amount of respect and feeling towards this being a local car to me is just unreal. Kye is a tuning legned, makes everything understandable to us fellas that don't quite understand everything about tuning with a laptop. Absolutely cracker video as usual guys

[@peanutgarage]

Awesome that its running right Nathan will be stoked, cant thank him enough for letting me put my business up the side of the shorty, just an awesome bloke 👌

[@theskidfactory]

Now you’ll have to repay him with some Tyres!

[@peanutgarage]

@@theskidfactory working on it he just need to pick some wheels first

[@firbolg]

I don't know much about internal combustion engines but I have a background in mechanical engineering and one of the things that fascinated me was dimensioning components. So what Alan said about improving the rods but then something else brakes is very true!

[@dennisbjones]

Being the owner of a stocko HJ47, I can confirm that Al isn't bullshitting you when he says the steering would have been shit before. It does however involve a similar adrenalin rush as swapping in a 1gz😁

[@fatcontroller831]

Can you please do a dyno episode where every turbo sound is Al saying Waadoosh! like the squeaky hammer sounds and in the post credits its a montage of the real turbo sounds. Cheers love the content. Waadoosh!

[@Danger_mouse]

11:00 Kye explaining this safe approach to the tune is exactly why I ordered my Link ecu from him, and will have him tune it in my GC8 👌 That said, I really wanted to try for Max low end torque from the EJ207 in it for hillclimb and gymkhanas...

[@stevebarnette]

Such a wealth of information. Fun to nerd-out with you guys. Awesome build.

[@jonnewton5929]

Another great job guys. Great work with a proper explanation of why and how. With a brilliant outcome. Cheers 🍻

[@cheetonian]

FWIW, I would LOVE to listen to a podcast with you guys and Kye talking about tuning

[@akmjolnir-v4r]

Cracked a beer and opened my phone... And what a pleasant surprise.

[@shanenorwell8580]

The rod prank is hilarious…what are mates for eh😂😂

[@jasondaley6723]

This was a very informative episode Al and Woody you are like brothers from different fathers, the explanation was great to listen to and that Landy is a 1 off unicorn 🦄

[@feral4mr2]

Mad AF! V12 madness. Kye sounds like the man I need to tune my twincharger when I rebuild the new engine.

[@MrWilberbeast1]

I want to see this beast off road so bad. Thanks for the ace vids dudes.

[@justaclosedaccount]

Right? Put this against that Cummins powered patrol.

[@rotax636nut5]

Some World Class B/S from this guy..

[@mcgregorhall1166]

Hey woody, this is McGregor and Jack. It’s good to see that your subs have gone up and I hope we can catch up one day🤙

[@tonyurquhart8278]

Thanks Al & Ky. A very revealing & easily understood explanation of engine power & how/why things can break. I enjoyed this video!

[@seanmcgrath2202]

All and Woody, so glad I can still get to watch you guys while I'm living and working in Tokyo for the next 10 weeks. This Saturday night I'm heading out to Daikoku to look around and take some photos. Thanks for the great content.

[@roocrew86]

Awesome video Fantastic explanation regarding tuning torque etc very interesting

[@adman6380]

Love the Nathan wasn’t here picture on the Dyno screen

[@xwarped83]

A V12 in an FJ, you crazy cun*s! Loved my time visiting Melbourne, great city!

[@brianross4057]

When I was a teen I spent 200klm in the back of a shorty heading back to my home town after a hard night on the turps in the big smoke, I can say that was the worst 200klm I've ever spent in any vehicle and have never been in the back of a shorty since.

[@allanmaccaul1465]

Never seen anyone draw an elephant on the dyno graph before...cool...😅

[@davidt3196]

Doesn't matter if it's 100kw's or 1000 turbo noises just make everyone smile and giggle

[@TheKidd1988]

Love seeing the smile on all 3 faces on first pull.

[@pmp3446]

The 40 shorties with a petrol six used to get floatie in the front end when giving them the boot. It'll be doing 100m monos with the twelve.

[@philip4x4guy]

Love the section about tuning, I'd love a podcast about it!

[@RoadskiN]

Geez, tempting fate letting Woody drive! 😂

[@pinorkle2728]

I had a short wheel base soft top G60 Nissan Patrol, put a 250 cross flow in it with a 5 speed gearbox. At 110kph, it was scary to drive, they bounce around, near impossible to hang onto, four wheel drum brakes, but I use the term "brakes" loosely, they would spit you off the road if you hit them too hard. Like he said, "its a wonky old jeep, it won't handle that horsepower that well". I can honestly say, he is dead right!! Had a lot of fun with it though....

[@williamhardes8081]

Kai is an f'ing legend! no offence to the other guys but for a dummy like me i think that was the best most logical and understandable explanation i have heard. nice work by the way to both Kai and skid factory guys. i recon i learn at least one (mostly many) new things every ep. old man told me if you listen hard you can learn one new thing a day! he was a mechanic and he always said, use ya head and kept a 10mm socket behind glass next to the fire extinguisher. lol.

[@fossilfuelenthusiast]

Kye is a smart man and explains the theory well.

[@letsallbe-friends1120]

*10:58** Kai calmly explains Woody's approach to a Saturday night out.* 😉

[@timpea777]

Very clear explanation, Kai.

[@David-dd7qe]

Great episode as always

[@DStead2239]

Great explanation.. Another point is there's also the the downfall of making the bottom end bulletproof at low rpm to where it's not rev happy or as he touched on, variability of flow in all rpm ranges.

[@Campbell1.]

This Kye Bloke is one smart cookie

[@adamg9093]

Thankyou for supporting Kai, hes a valued member of our rainbow community

[@chuggles03]

Quite brave doing it on split rims.

[@jonb1739]

Cruiser bonnet also referred to as blast shield

[@Swearzy]

smokey nagatas supra uses one of these v12s twin turbo they dynoed it for 1,003 hp and 745 lb-ft torque

[@leonwayne7657]

Thanks Guys, I liked seeing this one redone right. 👌

[@zombiegeorge749]

I wish there was a Knight Family Motorsport near me.

[@darwonboyful]

That will take some balls to drive hard! Super cool rig

[@mattedwards7788]

The people want said podcast! ❤

[@noskills9577]

That’s something I like about this channel, if this build had been polished off on another one we’d have a 10 minute montage of it driving about. Not here thank fuck.

[@danielpetersen2147]

At around 16:35 Al says the torque limiting strategy applies to "pretty much any engine". I wonder if he means it should be used on any tune, or if it's only for highly-strung engines, e.g, adding a turbo to a factory NA engine?

[@Elxmo]

I'd say it applies more to where you've made a pretty drastic change over stock torque, such as forced induction, not so much a Commodore with a cam or a Honda with a pod filter. Honda with a turbo, definitely have to limit that torque, they too have pencil rods... I know this from experience hahaha

[@raindeergames6104]

I put one of these midmounted in a toyota hiace mini van with twin turbos. was a unique setup.

[@johnjosephson9277]

Photos?

[@kingkei639]

18:36 Such an entertaining test drive.

[@douwboy]

Where is Kye's link i'm interested in seeing what he is doing or did i have a man look and miss the link? Love your work guys for a two man team you pump out some great content.

[@Potsie]

I looked also and couldn't see it mate.. better get the missus in for a proper squizz

[@douwboy]

Someone did mention it in the comments what there KZbin channel was called. It’s KFM - Knight Family Motorsport.

[@gowerski]

22:15

[@loudbass11]

I'll be staying up in Kingaroy in May.

[@79series]

Such great detailed information. Well done.

[@TurbineResearch]

That thing has got to be mad as hell at full Throttle

[@j1m3by]

On his off time, I'm pretty sure your tuner puts on some dreads and builds turbo burn barrels.

[@a.l.8873]

17:55 - What did Kye say? "Hoff ran a RUCH shorter intake runner on the engine..." Reminds me of that bloke that couldn't help swapping Bs for his Cs. What a silly Bunt! (full credit to the Monty Python team, from their Contractual Obligation Album. Something Woody and Al will learn about in years to come).

[@ivanszky]

Kye is a true legend!

[@FixTechStuff]

Really interesting explainer on torque.

[@mathewhyland8925]

Guys did Holden actually make the LS Engines please ?

[@davidmatthews5563]

We are in Australia. Please use metric for torque

[@13bttlotus]

Just for you 48,544 duckpower (DP) Or 1,272.8 llamathrust (LT)

[@dxm6580]

i would love to see a comp vid of a vw amarok 420 tdi (my ute) vs a toyota v8 diesel at 450. but as we are in auz, i have yet to find a vw diesel useful vid...

[@brendanryan7767]

Woody, what’s your brand of sunnies, they’re mint

[@Tube4TTT]

15:40 Clayton has left the chat….. much like that rod 😁

[@13bttlotus]

Coffee out the nose… That’s brutal…

[@UncleManuel]

So Honda engines do run on coffee instead on motor oil? I never knew that! Thanks for the enlightenment, Al... 😂😂😁😁😂😂

[@hillfurnishings]

Power per pulse

[@donfinch862]

Good one. What is Kye's channel?

[@clives681]

Link to Kai’s project? It’s *not* in the description at the ‘mo

[@earlscott3279]

Knight family motorsport is Kye, youtube channel

[@adamedwards2287]

That sure would be a handful, sounds like dueling Buick v6s haha. Great episode as usual.

[@headshotsmatter3743]

Nah man it just sounds like a buick v6 I played the sound clip to my die hard vn commodore mate and said guess and he was like straight up mang mang bro 😂

[@acevelevski9992]

Can you be there next year aswell? Got my awd 1uz turbo s13 going

[@Oldfatbeerman]

I can't find the link you said you'd put in the description to Kye's build Woody .

[@larsjrgensen5975]

Is the 1GZ-FE "fixed" with better rods or does it have a chain of weak links? Replacing rods +50 torque, but then the pistons needs replacing for +20 torque, but then headbolts, cams and bracing of the block for another +50? I find the engine amazing and the power it makes for the Landcruiser is probably more then plenty and with a really nice curve.

[@13bttlotus]

So rods fix a big problem. But the intake is restrictive and heads need flow, and pistons are worth upgrading when it’s open. Problem is with much more power and torque the gear bag and transfer and diffs and shafts become the next week links… where to stop is a hard question…

[@darthvader8433]

Really interesting process to get the most out of the engine. And really smooth engine! Not sure I would have chosen it with the iron block 4.8 and 5.3lt LS motors going for almost free in the US... And they have huuuge potential with boost...

[@Michael-jq5pf]

Uhhh please point me in the direction of "almost free" LS motors

[@13bttlotus]

Could have gone any direction. Was going in the twin turbo v8 direction, but this motor popped up and it made no sense - so that in turn sounded like a perfect idea…

[@drewski5730]

It’s kind of heresy given this is a Toyota. An almost free 1UZ, or 2JZ GE could have been bolted in as well. I think this has a V12 just for the sake of a V12. I’m sure with better rods and pistons this engine would have a higher ceiling.

[@13bttlotus]

@@drewski5730 yep 100% for the sake of it. Like I have mentioned, the previous plan was a turbo holden 8, but this engine was available and it seemed like an obvious solution to put it in the shorty…

[@drewski5730]

@@13bttlotus well why wouldn’t you put a V12 in it, it’s such a logical solution to a problem that doesn’t exist?! 😂

[@NemesisDestiny]

V12 anything gets a 'Like' from me

[@kzarnold3678]

Nicely done

[@haydenritchie-e9j]

Where is the link to Kai's channel?

[@TML34]

Now it's time for a ZF 8-speed swap. I'm sure Al can fab up an adapter plate for the 1GZFE, he's a MACHINIST now! 😅

[@matthewsmith6330]

what a weapon, does kinda sound like a buick 3.8 tho

[@rcalltypes8230]

Craziest conversion. Just needs some better wheels, with all that power 😅

[@EnniodBleu]

Can you think of a more extreme sleeper? A ridiculous project, but in a good way. 🙂

[@13bttlotus]

Cheese cutter tyres are life… Split rims are safe… No problems…

[@stephenrawles89]

Mad build would of loved to see the reply to the rod on the floor 😂😂😂

[@13bttlotus]

Direct response from me in the chat group “That rod looks too big… But will make a funny thumbnail” I’ve got broken 1gz rods in the shed from the other motor so that looked too big.. Will try get the rods I’ve got into the next video so ppl can see what the internals are like…

[@yowie0889]

@@13bttlotus I hear that a lot...

[@stephenrawles89]

Hahaha yer I didn't really think about that I could only imagine what someone that didnt know anything would of felt though lol

[@Potsie]

Gday Woody.. cannot see that link to Kye's build that you mentioned .. did I miss it somewhere? (If someone could point me in the right direction, I'd be grateful). ta. Pots.

[@theskidfactory]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3m0aYSEq5ipmNk

[@Bravo21]

... hope he has another set of tires and wheels for that rig.

[@13bttlotus]

Cheese cutter life…

[@Bravo21]

@@13bttlotus And with skinny tires it's not a good one. I had 33x12.50x15in tires on mine and they worked great (Not sure of the mm size conversion) I never got it stuck and this is in Florida. The only complaints I had about it was the terrible gas millage from the original big six and the vacuum actuated 4wd system... not a fan. Off road it was a beast. Here in the USA a lot of guys do an LS conversion and it's a great choice.

[@twelvepointfour]

You forgot to put the link in the description for Kye's channel :( unlucky Kye...

[@theskidfactory]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3m0aYSEq5ipmNk

[@Kyleashdown13]

Why the pickup truck ‘roll bar’ inside a hard top?

[@13bttlotus]

Because I’ve seen the after photos one of these shorties roll backwards off a cliff/hill into a river/creek. Only reason it was not a fatality was the same brand of roll bar fitted in a soft top. (The bar got bent up but did it’s job…) If you have ever played with these they have a fibreglass roof and none of the upper panels are very structural…

[@Jake_Hamlin]

Any chance Skid Factory might one day build or transplant a 1GZ utilising Hartley’s forged rods/pistons? The website states 1200hp and 10,000rpm. Or maybe The Hoff will beat you to it..

[@13bttlotus]

It’s on the to do list for me. But like I posted in another comment, it’s ~+20k to do it right so it’s a while off. And to be honest even 300 hp in a shorty where the seated position puts your head about 6’ off the ground, it’s too much really for most occasions… Although I still maintain that everyone needs a +600hp fishing rig…

[@imidsikkey]

I know you guys delete distributor where you can, for good reason. But it would be cool to see you guys go through timing distributors for different fuels or just performance tuning in general. I've recently bought a couple of DA-DC LTD's with a Windsor and a 3.9. other than tuning it for standard timing, I don't know what to do with it 😅 the cars just aren't worth enough yet for me to justify modifying the ignition system

[@matthewcasey5059]

That’s an insane swap a president V12 engine in an old FJ40! How the hell did that thing get shoehorned in there?

[@Thedmcke3]

Definitely worth watching the original build series on this channel! These guys do great work.

[@benheynen2705]

Finally someone starts to realize why the OE do these things! I always was amazed at the comments of how "crap the factory tune was because the boost curve wasn't flat"! If you remove the rpm dependence with rod destruction the same rules apply with sticking to a gearbox or "program" torque target. Make the most torque for as many rpm as possible cos that's what makes the vehicle fast! Be careful using timing to control torque too much because retarded timing equals high EGT, better off and more efficient using boost. Why does no one (apart from all OE) tune to an EGT limit?..........😂 The reason engines take more boost and timing at high rpm is you are limited on ve and therefore effective compression. Also for the same torque at high rpm its from more cycles so less energy and force per cycle. Remember power is a derived unit.......

[@woopimagpie]

Probably a good thing it's not tuned for huge power, I imagine that would be quite a handful in an old Land Cruiser. Incredibly iconic old 4WDs for sure, but not renowned for their racetrack handling. Lol.

[@65cj55]

They don't go on Racetracks.

[@compted10]

Its neat for sure.

[@andrewthomson2228]

Kai is a top bloke,he was made for the channel,the other two are ok as well I suppose. 😂

[@5UPRAH]

Link to Kyes channel?

[@g_yola_w]

Whats kai’s channel name?

[@nathenwayenberg5939]

I wonder if I could fit one in my rodeo 🤔

[@mattjohns3394]

I measured my frontera with the same idea. It's tight, but it'll go in.

[@matty_isthemotto]

Super saiyan kai. We need to get him a nickname like the rest of the boys that help out.

[@firedustman]

kai is THE guy !

[@paulmcb9070]

Is there a manual gearbox option for a 1GZ? I'd love to drop that combo in an old Shaguar...

[@13bttlotus]

No there isn’t, but I’ve made an adapter for the 80 series manual box as well… Getting a working box in this was a nightmare and a good mate and I made the adapter in the shorty with hand tools and old school fabrication tricks (Run out gauge, lathe, hand taps and a battery drill,)

[@gb4408]

You should mount a can of lemon squash