And why they can LOOP (Insomnia Insight

[@drorjs]

THANK YOU! i'm the guy who asked for this overview. Listened to the whole thing while walking around the block at 2am to clear my head before i decide how to spend the rest of the night...

[@ann-b3n]

@@drorjs Hi, how are you? It feels so sad be awake the hole night….

[@drorjs]

Well.. luckily i wasn't. Went back to the living room to read and then back to bed. I slept for at least 2 more hours maybe 3​@@ann-b3n

[@Jana-cm4dw]

Hey Ann, wie geht's dir? Ich liege nachts am liebsten einfach im Bett mit geschlossenen Augen da und ruhe mich aus (und irgendwann schlafe ich mittlerweile immer ein). TV schauen oder so mache ich nicht.

[@Jana-cm4dw]

Bekommst du manchmal so 2 Stunden Schlaf gegen morgen? :)

[@ann-b3n]

@@Jana-cm4dw können wir über email schreiben?

[@enchantedbelle132]

Another great video! I really love how coach Daniel explains everything in such a gentle yet easy to understand manner.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

😊

[@MarinaLenkovskaya]

I had almost everything you mentioned! The only thing I didn’t see on the list is insanely vivid and really disturbing/weird dreams during hypersleep where I had no idea I was asleep. It was so odd to remember the craziest dream but not to remember that I had slept at all. I used to really think that must have been a "sign" of something very, very bad. I call it hypersleep now because I have much more knowledge. I had absolutely NO idea what was happening back then.

[@MrZezoo511]

I think he mentioned it in the last 4 mins of the video (hallucination), BTW same here, kind to know how to deal with it, but sometimes gets more intensive. I wish Daniel make a video only about it.

[@MarinaLenkovskaya]

@@MrZezoo511 This would be such a great topic for a video! I agree that it does quite feel like hallucinating. At this point, I think I see it a bit differently-like I did sleep, but I just don't remember sleeping. So, whatever was experienced is just a dream from a sleep I don’t recall. It happens rarely for me now, but when it does, I just normalize it and assume I had a bit more hyperarousal than usual. I think one of the best ways to deal with it is to assume that it’s completely normal-though I know that can sometimes be hard!

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Marina! THanks much for sharing this, so helpful for people to know these are actually common. Including these dreams! Also glad you're seeing how education really makes a difference. Best!

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi! We do have some episodes on hallucinations. My tip: Google "Insomnia insight hallucination" or "Heard online hallucination" and you should find those episodes!

[@christinalockington8222]

I had those.. so strange and made me very anxious.. I noticed when I caught up on a certain amount of rest then it stopped...???

[@Sunflowersarepretty]

These videos are a treat and a psychological medicine for me 😅. Before I found SCS I thought my insomnia "symptoms" were bizarre and rare. I had the frequent urination one which was so bad that id be getting up every 15 minutes or so in an hour and that happened all the time i was in bed, my parents would be annoyed by it 😭. I mean i understood that I had given myself this habit (to stop myself from thinking and just get up and freshen up) but the way it stuck with me and was the reason of my crazy hypnic jerks and palpations ughh im so glad it's behind me now. Tinnitus was also something common but once this peeing habit start I didn't experience it much. My hands and soles get really sweaty and especially when im anxious and that would also signal that i have to pee. So sweaty palms and soles aren't that uncommon. These days sleeping isn't that difficult its just my brain is still in disbelief that sleep is an automatic and passive process requiring not much effort. like I'm drifting slowly or am in that stage just before rem sleep and deep down my brain is amazed and denial that it can happen. 🤣 It's like waiting for something to show up which is how i understand is my reduced hyperarousal stil lingering. There must be something else that could pop up is embedded deep now. I think this is a sign that im in "recovery" now.

[@sitafitriani5732]

I'm in the exact situation!!

[@murphs7146]

How did you get rid of the frequent peeing thing? I have that (thought I was the only one) and it’s driving me crazy!

[@Sunflowersarepretty]

@@murphs7146 before lying down I told myself I'll let it all happen without trying to resist or be annoyed by it. Because I understood that I was afraid of it messing with my sleep. Initially I felt the sensations as soon as I layed down. I would take a few deep breathes and just go. Just being aware that it is happening because of anxiety and thinking about times when I would have to pee a lot like during exams (before it would start, in the middle of it and once it ended) because these were the most stressful time for me. Instead of seeing this habit as a thréat I started accepting it and telling myself well there's no actual dangér but whatever. This mental training of not resisting the sensations actually helped me. Not only I started going less it helped me get out this cycle because trust me I was terrified of even lying down for the féar that the whole thing would keep on going. So now I'm at that point where peeing doesn't bother me much. If I have to go i go and when im asleep I don't even get up because of it. This is going to take time so pls be kind to yourself. Courage to live with it as many times it happens and kindness when you know that its frustrating yet you leave your bed and relive yourself. Ask me more if it doesn't make much sense. 💕

[@Sunflowersarepretty]

​@@murphs7146 @murphs7146 before lying down I told myself I'll let it all happen without trying to resist or be annoyed by it. Because I understood that I was afraid of it messing with my sleep. Initially I felt the sensations as soon as I layed down. I would take a few deep breathes and just go. Just being aware that it is happening because of anxiety and thinking about times when I would have to pee a lot like during exams (before it would start, in the middle of it and once it ended) because these were the most stressful time for me. Instead of seeing this habit as a thréat I started accepting it and telling myself well there's no actual dangér but whatever. This mental training of not resisting the sensations actually helped me. Not only I started going less it helped me get out this cycle because trust me I was terrîfied of even lying down for the féar that the whole thing would keep on going. So now I'm at that point where peeing doesn't bother me much. If I have to go i go and when im asleep I don't even get up because of it. This is going to take time so pls be kind to yourself. Courage to live with it as many times it happens and kindness when you know that its frustrating yet you leave your bed and relieve yourself. Ask me more if it doesn't make much sense. 💕

[@Hangryalways]

​@@murphs7146hi this is me sunflowerare pretty and im using a different ac to post my reply cz it keeps getting taken down 😭. before lying down I told myself I'll let it all happen without trying to resist or be annoyed by it. Because I understood that I was afraid of it messing with my sleep. Initially I felt the sensations as soon as I layed down. I would take a few deep breathes and just go. Just being aware that it is happening because of anxiety and thinking about times when I would have to pee a lot like during exams (before it would start, in the middle of it and once it ended) because these were the most stressful time for me. Instead of seeing this habit as a thréat I started accepting it and telling myself well there's no actual dangér but whatever. This mental training of not resisting the sensations actually helped me. Not only I started going less it helped me get out this cycle because trust me I was terrified of even lying down for the féar that the whole thing would keep on going. So now I'm at that point where peeing doesn't bother me much. If I have to go i go and when im asleep I don't even get up because of it. This is going to take time so pls be kind to yourself. Courage to live with it as many times it happens and kindness when you know that its frustrating yet you leave your bed and relive yourself. Ask me more if it doesn't make much sense. 💕

[@charstandridge4872]

Thank you

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

So glad this was helpful! 🙏

[@sheamercado4472]

I truly appreciate your insightful videos and the help they provide. I was curious if you’ve already made a video about dreams-why we have them and how they relate to insomnia or sleep. If not, I think it would be fascinating to hear your insights on this topic. Thank you for all your amazing work!

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

So glad you found us and that the content has been helpful! If you search google for insomnia insight vivid dreams, you'll find content on this topic. However, the general theory of dreams, we haven't talked about that. Maybe because I don't think I have much to add there, they are mysterious! BUt I'll add it to the list. of potential episodes

[@Tanu-s6d]

Can anyone relate to this? I've been dealing with insomnia for 10 months now. During this time, it hasn’t always been bad nights. There have been months when I’ve slept well, getting 6-7 hours of sleep (but sleep is fragmented as I wake up 2-3 times in between). I'd say I sleep well about 45-50% of the time. In May, August, and November, I slept relatively well, 6-7 hours most night, but my sleep was fragmented, as I would wake up in between and there are other months when I’ve really struggled, mainly with initiating sleep, getting only 3-4 hours, or even experiencing sleepless nights. What I’m trying to say is that over these 10 months, I haven’t suffered every single night. I’ll sleep well for a month, then start struggling again, then sleep well, and then struggle. It’s been like that.

[@danh2310]

Just try not to chase sleep after you've had a bad night by going to bed early and don't lie in to compensate

[@coca824]

i think there are videos on this topic

[@dekay7599]

I will add ear worms, constant songs playing in the head, burning tongue, blurry or distorted vision, vivid dreams.

[@Sunflowersarepretty]

This yes!! But I always assume that since I like to distract myself and listening to songs or watching shows to keep me going is why it all replays in my head. Like I already know from enough experience that sleep won't come that easy and this is the only escape that I have and so it happens on it's own as a distraction so I'm not worried about hypnic jerks or moments before we fall in sleep 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@murphs7146]

Yes I get awful ear worms but it’s always just one small bit of a song playing over and over

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Thank you!!

[@christinalockington8222]

@@dekay7599 distorted vision! yes

[@federico5414]

I would also add photophobia, it's horrible.

[@christinalockington8222]

@federico5414 same with photophobia and all other strange eye symptoms for me. twitching, dropping, blurred, diplopia..

[@federico5414]

@christinalockington8222 Yes! I also used to have really strong eye pain

[@madalindumbrava2799]

hey Daniel just wanted to ask if nausea doesnt have more to do with the reduced blood flow to the digestive system from the adrenaline thats released since we dont need to digest while in flight or flight

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi! I'm sure there can be more than one reason for nausea, and anything that normalizes an experiences related to fear I think is really helpful.

[@JaxonJon-vl7cs]

Daniel I’m 17 and I’m in your sleep school and I have learned some great things. I have to say tho, one thing that is difficult for me to cope with is the fact that I’m not building as much muscle as I could be due to my sleep maintenance insomnia. Extremely choppy sleep and I’ll wake up and not really be able to fall back to sleep. I don’t know how to be cope with this

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Jaxon, so glad you found us! And, look at our playlist for athletes, there are two weight lifters there, and I think their stories can really help

[@WilliamCarlos-i6g]

I have many of the same experiences. I also have weird experiences with the “fight or flight” system it’s self.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Thanks for sharing William, so helpful.

[@christinalockington8222]

What about REM rebound???

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

REM rebound is a polysomnographic finding, very unclear if it matters at all in real life, I don't think it matters much at all, except of course if we worry about it, then our worrying can matter...

[@ky.alexia]

Hey Daniel! I have been having issues with tossing and turning all night long all while being kind of asleep and aware of the tossing and turning at the same time. I’m wondering if this is hyper sleep? It’s like I can sleep but it’s not deep and it’s just constant tossing and turning for hours until my body decides it’s had enough and I need to wake up. Any thoughts?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi! It sounds much like it, and check insomnia insight 507 for more, that episode will really clarify!

[@dh.0121]

hi daniel, recently I’ve been staying up all night trying to restrict my time in bed but i still don’t get sleepy. i usually go to bed at 3-5am and get out of bed around 7am but once i get up i don’t remember getting any sleep. i was wondering is it practical to stay up all night hoping for sleep to come by or should i attempt to keep my eyes shut for as long as possible during my sleep window even if i’m not tired ?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi! Yes, this is tricky because when we try to stay up with the intent to sleep, our performance anxiety often keeps us from even feeling sleepy. Check our This is Natto playlist for more, rooting for you

[@karengracemusicvideo]

Hi Daniel thanks so much for your videos, which helped me so much this time last year in my recover. I am now having a speed bump again, and struggling not to obsess over the question of whether to take HRT. I am 46 and insomnia is my only peri-menopause symptom. However I think there's a hormonal component and a private clinic has offered me HRT .... I think my real question is whether you know any resources for women of a peri-menopausal age that have a similar philosophy to you.... I'm struggling to know whether HRT is really a healthy choice for me.... and it's so challenging to navigate this without specific support around this, especially when I haven't slept! Thanks so much.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

So glad you found us! ANd check Heard online 47, it's on this topic

[@pipgalea1376]

There's an app called Evia for menopause but honestly for me, taking micronised progesterone was a game changer for sleep for me

[@ann-b3n]

Hello, what do you think.? I can not work since 3 month. What do you think, should i go back to work? My fear is that my sleep go to zerro.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Ann, hang in there. I'd say its about courage and kindness. The courage to say "If I get zero sleep, this will be an opportunity to teach myself that even this is safe to experience" can really help. Saying "I'm not wanting to pressure myself now, I will stay home from work a bit more" as an act of self kindness, this too can help so much. It's about understadning, education, this leads to where we want to be

[@irese9861]

I think I am struggling with fear of fear, how can I manage this?

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi there, sorry to hear this but - it is very common and the answer is to meet it like we meet any other fear of something harmless: willingness to experience it without trying to escape. This teaches our brain that fear is safe, and we become less afraid of being afraid

[@AdityaSingh-uk8fr]

sir i want to know that i know what i have to do with the knowledge and i am applying it and it is just that my mind will try to do it and accept it but how to actively do it . and not to give my attention to it. my mind would check . plese give some advise to me

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Aditya, search for "Insomnia insight North Star" and you'll find something I hope will help much

[@christinalockington8222]

I wonder about sleep inertia? Anyone had this bad during insomnia and or recovery??

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

I think this is very common regardless of whether we have struggled with sleep or not, something many of us feel after waking up

[@christinalockington8222]

What about REM rebound???

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

REM rebound is a polysomnographic finding, very unclear if it matters at all in real life, I don't think it matters much at all, except of course if we worry about it, then our worrying can matter...