DO Miatas NEED More Power?? - One Take

[@Christian_Meyer]

Thank you for having me on the show! It was a great experience talking to you and getting your opinion on the car. Maybe I can bring out my 240SX when it’s done ;).

[@brianbrooks2575]

Do flying miata butterfly brace and bilstein shocks, swap bars you will be very happy. Oh make sure all your bushing/tie rods r good.

[@Christian_Meyer]

i've been looking around at those parts, actually autocrossing the miata in stock form next weekend too.

[@TheMichael791]

Nah the subie sti

[@golders99]

Miata (MX-5) are great cars, they sound good with a Cobalt exhaust on them. Video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoXPq4V6Zd6qd5I

[@Bmckimm]

"Your wood is immaculate" hahaha

[@vanquish421]

A true bromance in the making.

[@Christian_Meyer]

Damn 😅

[@markzuckerbergette6185]

"I have an sti"

[@JohnDoe-df8bj]

🍆

[@TheMichael791]

That’s what he said lol

[@althejazzman]

I like Zack's interview style. He's knowledgeable but doesn't steal the conversation from the guest.

[@kavinskysmith4094]

yeah your right he takes abit of getting used to from matt, but in a situation like this where its just sit and chill in a miata, it kinda reminds me of Scienfields Comedians getting coffee almost with how chill it is.

[@Shakshuka69]

Also, a pro tip from a long time Miata owner. If you feel like the car is underpowered... Before you start throwing turbo/supercharger parts or scheming an ecotec swap... Try taking it on dirt. Any smooth dirt road. You immediately gain 100hp.

[@WBush-uc9pe]

AD1 - You, sir, may be the wisest sage of all!

[@mattl2k6]

Probably feels very underpowered on those long wide bends in the canyons. On tight twisty country roads in the UK it is plenty fast enough.

[@upgradeNEVER]

Stock power Miatas have enough power. But more power is always welcome for them. Their chassis is incredibly welcoming to more power. They don't need a whole lot more - like 200-250whp is perfect imo.

[@Elpirata253]

No LS SWAP!

[@upgradeNEVER]

@@Elpirata253 absolutely. I don't like LS swap Miatas. Boosting, or swapping a Honda K engine into them is the way to go imo.

[@terryl9996]

Stock does not have the ability of power oversteer or "throttle steering" It is imperative a rear drive car be able to correct drastic slip angle under acceleration in order to make ANY turn like a 993 or an 964 due the pendulum effect of RR it is enhanced even further although not for any drivers less than advanced

[@saber0089]

I'm not disagreeing but 200-250 whp is kind of a whole lot more for a Miata. I mean you're talking about over a 100 hp boost for most Miatas. Haha

[@izzoArtistry]

PHANTOMxNISMO K swap it done deal!

[@gaivoron]

Yes. Yes all miatas are underpowered that's why they are entry cars to track.

[@MB-tj8un]

slow car fast as we all know! Momentum is the name of the challenge, if you want horsepower look elsewhere :) I've been able to master the basics of performance driving due to the miata's "lack" of power. Since there is no fear of too much power, I can focus on everything else like how the car behaves in corners at all sorts of speeds, weight transfer, braking points, etc...I've become very "in-tune" with it. Yes, there are many times i'm wanting or "waiting" for more power but again, that's Mazda's whole point with this car. It teaches me to find areas where I can keep the momentum going and have that extra few mph mid-corner or on exit. Having a capable car that you can comfortably exploit its limits at your beckoning call is a wonderful feeling. Mastering a car (any car) is a beautiful thing. My miata has by far been the most fun and the best teacher on how to toss a car around corners properly and with confidence. My other cars indeed were all about chasing the HP carrot, I look at the miata like a challenge to Drivers... can you be fast without the grunt? Imagine how quickly a miata would lose a Hellcat in the canyons of southern cali. Now imagine the frustration of the Dodge driver.....Bye kitty my 2 cents.

[@steveyj75]

A better-worded version of the comment I was about to make. Well said!!

[@atlaspowershrugged]

As an srt8 (no hellcat ) driver in socal, I doubt it. There's enough straight or semi straight areas in most of the canyons with the exception of the mullholand snake that a fast car can make up a lot of lost ground.

[@MB-tj8un]

@@atlaspowershrugged that's the fun I suppose, not knowing or wondering. Not picking on a particular car or anything, it's the principalities of my example. From what I've experienced I can out-corner chargers and challengers no problem on the streets. Most "muscle car" drivers will lift hard right before corner entry, and I can usually floor it, stick the turn and see yaaaaaaa!! Of course on the straight they come back making all kinds of noise and blow by me, but that's why I let them have their glory and always give a peace sign or thumbs up. Not saying I can beat every v8, calm down internet, just explaining how challenging and exciting a momentum car can be.

[@aljowen]

I think it depends where you live really. Those canyons look like they really suit faster cars. The roads are fast and sweeping. Whereas if you were to drive Miata's/MX5's on narrower more twisty roads, you would find that they have plenty of power. You can take more or less any car to a drag strip and come home with the conclusion that it needs more power, then take the same car to a single lane road with passing places and power is not so much of a priority.

[@kevinnorwood7355]

This. The car shines on tight twisty roads it leaves most cars behind because they are too busy riding their brakes going into the turns. If you’ve ever seen a race on smaller, tighter tracks cars like the Miata come out ahead in the end. Zack picked the wrong road for this car.

[@WILSON-tc4bb]

"Your wood is in Immaculate condition, I would say" - Z Klapman

[@MaxSpeedMike]

Looking at this specific model. A 2000 special edition. What a coincidence. I'm hoping to buy one as my daily driver/project car for my channel. Can't wait!

[@Shakshuka69]

Don't count on having a "Miata channel" unless you're doing a swap that hasn't been done before or something. There's a thousand of them and nobody cares

[@MaxSpeedMike]

@@Shakshuka69 haha. Not at all a miata channel Im a review channel from a performance perspective. I don't give a shit about infotainment, the type of wood grain, etc. I care about performance hence my channel name. The miata would just make for a fun video here and there. That's all :)

[@alansmilealot]

@@Shakshuka69 don't listen to this guy, personality will come 1rst. IMO the problem with alot of the car channels starts with the generic personalities and the template clickbait posting styles.

[@Shakshuka69]

There's just very few things to be done with a Miata that haven't been done 1000 times is what I'm saying. It's not interesting content anymore. Those 'haggard' twats and all the annoying teenagers they spawned like gingium and fialko ruined it.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

@@Shakshuka69 I actually liked a lot of what gingium did with his blue miata. Never took fialko seriously as his car is basically a driving meme. Funny and unique for sure but would never own something like that lol. I'm actually looking at a miata that's pretty rare. But yea for sure bud. Lots of miata content on here. Hard to be unique these days with a camera and a miata but hey, I can definitely make it work. Like I said tho my channel is primarily reviews. The miata wouldn't be my only car either. I have a good clean example of what a civic should look like in my opinion. Classy and clean. So glad I bought it

[@danielthomas2621]

Had a turbo on my Na took it off cause it destroyed the character and fun of the car they don't need a lot of power , driver skill is what it's all about with mx5's

[@G333-k8o]

if you had driver skill you would get the most out of the turbo car the only reason you would actually take the turbo off is cause you blew a motor and you got no good tuners or you cant handle the power. or most likely you just made the story up. cool story bro

[@danielthomas2621]

G 333 I don't make up stories bro..

[@johntechwriter]

@@G333-k8o Oh, have you owned a turbo Miata? Have you ever BEEN in a Miata? I have, and that comment was right on the money.

[@Svsqvz]

Dislikes are from z3 owners lmao

[@MrDustin110]

Yep I've had both at the same time and the miata is way more fun.

[@G333-k8o]

Dustin Crawford yeah right lol

[@MrDustin110]

G 333 true tho

[@joekannoo]

@@MrDustin110 can I ask why? I'm in the market for an NC

[@MrDustin110]

Joseph Kannookaden I had an NA. It's shorter, lighter, way more responsive than any z3. Miatas are perfect for having fun on streets and canyons without getting in trouble. I like that the z3 has twice as much power, but it's just not as playful in the corners.

[@1859ddd]

I daily a 2005 NB and totally agree that these cars need at least 200whp to complete the whole experience. That's why it's so popular to throw really tinny turbos on these things and make like 200-250whp because it really makes the whole car.

[@patrickarchibald6787]

Just a small turbo is what they need. Did it create a lt more torque when you put a small turbo on it?

[@1859ddd]

@@patrickarchibald6787 yep Garrett GT2560R will get ya there. Wakes the car right up. Nice and peppy with actual power. I know a local guy running 19lbs through his stock 1.6 and he runs high 12 second quarter mile times which is pretty nuts but his motor is a ticking time bomb admittedly.

[@jlopez1017d]

Is it easy to supercharge these I feel like a more linear powerband makes more sense on this car especially because short wheel based cars are more prone to break traction and the turbo lag might cause that

[@1859ddd]

@@jlopez1017d for anything less than 300whp I would totally agree with you. Though the drawback is the price. I built my own turbo kit for about $1100 and my car made 240whp. If I wanted 240whp with a supercharger kit I would have been looking at $4000 minimum. But if you want more than 300ish whp out of these you have to go turbo. Theres a guy in California making 700whp with a fully built nb1 1.8 motor. Pretty nuts for a motor that was never intended for boost and started at around 100hp. But it all depends on your application. To be fair the advancement of modern ball bearing turbos really kinda make superchargers almost obsolete in most cases. Modern ball bearing turbos are very efficient and don't take very much to spool. Pretty neat stuff actually! Just expensive haha!

[@Elbenito84]

NB owner here. The power is basically adequate but no more. My issue is the engine is buzzy and lacks character. Still a lovable machine with light suspension mods.

[@franklatin2411]

Benjamin Shockley you should k swap

[@Trendyflute]

I've got a 1994 Miata with torsen diff, suspension done, stickier tires, etc. but basically stock power (maybe a few extra with a CAI and muffler and some timing advance, but not a lot). I get the excitement of acceleration from it because A) the noise when you wind it out and B) the powerband where you feel it come up on cam above 4000 RPM. I enjoy being able to access that feeling regularly because a floored Miata rung out to redline is like...Minivan-fast, or 4-cylinder Accord-fast, if that. You get to ring it out and hear it howl just keeping up with people in their boring cars. And that doesn't even get into the rest of the driving experience that literally makes me giggle, even at speeds below 40 MPH. So much fun in a car that is very reasonable to own; I bought a Miata as a consolation prize for the Porsche I couldn't afford and now I don't think I ever want that Porsche because I have a Miata!

[@OldDirtyCollector]

I love my NB just the way it is. It was stock for 8 years. This is coming from a 1999 NB owner for over 10 years. The only mods I’ve done is handling... suspension, wheels, tires, sway bars, strut bars and fender braces. To me that’s all a Miata needs.

[@KJ_XCV]

I just bought a heritage edition just like this one! It feels amazing and you don't want for more power on the road. Just rev it harder! It's such good fun!

[@iainbagnall4825]

"I'm waiting for the next braking zone" Padwan, its a Miata, you do not need to brake, you only think you do because of the body roll, but body roll is your friend; embrace it, let it flow through you.

[@duncanbrady3237]

Not at all mad about the power in my NA, feels plenty fast compared to the Honda Fit and Benz 300D I'm coming from. Plus, less power = lower speeds = lower consequences. There's little enough sound insulation and little enough grip that the sense of speed is more than enough for back road thrills, no need for more power in my book.

[@gerardjoaquino8856]

Try coilovers and some sticky tyres. Should net you more than 1G through a corner (depending on tyres and set up).

[@duncanbrady3237]

See but I have literally no desire for that. Higher grip means higher speeds which means higher consequences, both in terms of law enforcement and actual danger to my life.

[@DrRynsta]

4:24 Wish I could meet a girl who tells me my wood is immaculate like the way Zack does to Christian.

[@Christian_Meyer]

hm

[@jasonyoung6420]

NB is 16.4lb:1hp - it's in economy car power to weight ratio territory; that stated, I still want an NB Miata to throw parts at, mainly a turbo or LS. ND is 12.9lb:1hp - the problem with the ND is that we are in a world where horsepower is relatively cheap. for comparison purposes - 2000 miata vs 2000 mustang - the miata was handling focused, but lacked power in comparison, and in all honesty Ford wasn't really making an effort on the mustang (eg. resting on their laurels). Fast forward to 2019 miata vs 2019 mustang - the miata is driver focused, and still lacks power in comparison, the difference is that the mustang handling has improved dramatically, as well as it's horsepower because for is actually trying; now do a price comparison, and unless one of your must haves is 2-seater, the mustang will scratch the handling itch for most people. I know what comment readers are thinking, "those two cars don't directly compete" they certainly don't, but, they are cross-shopped, simply because they are not a primary car for the people buying them new, they are a secondary or tertiary car, to be driven on the weekends/sunny days/track days.

[@kwwinfield]

I traded an NB Miata for an S550 Cobb tuned ecoboost Mustang. The power is so much better and the handling as you said is more than adequate for almost all street driving. The only place the Miata was noticably better is like 15 mph twisties or autocross which I don't do much of. Highway cruising, sweepy canyon roads like in the video, even road courses with the right brakes and tires, more fun in the Mustang.

[@doctorlobsteroctopus]

Zach, you nailed it with the comment on tall people driving miatas. I'm 6'3 and fit in my NA race car with ample room, I don't feel cramped. However, I am quite uncomfortable on the passenger side. I have the NA6, which has part of the leg area at the end cramped by the ECU and cover. Tall people can definitely drive a first or second gen no problem.

[@StingrayOfficial]

Weird, that I ended up this exact model. Zack makes a great point. The Miata is super fun everywhere but in a straight line. I hope to supercharge mine soon.

[@Shakshuka69]

01 would have been a better example. They got VVT and a more linear powerband with more up top. Even more rewarding to keep the revs up on an NB2.

[@TwstedTproductions]

Nb1 engine were faster

[@rafallo1333]

​@@TwstedTproductions no

[@Iverson3N7Vick]

Check engine lights and Miatas for emissions. Name a more iconic duo.

[@niks.6250]

I had a 2000 SE when I was in Germany...wasn't fast, but was a very fun car to drive, even slow. I miss it all the time.

[@idrivearttabletennis]

Most fun you can have on the twisties and still be under the speed limit. I have a 00 SE with 57K miles. I like the added roll protection on the SE in your video - it's not stock - but a good addition.

[@ScoutingForZen]

I DD a 10AE NB--it's one of the most fun cars I've ever driven. I want to lighten it up, improve the shocks and maybe some bracing, but it doesn't really need more power for me, just maybe more torque and a faster rev-up

[@Gochsener]

my dad has a 2002 which he got almost for free. love it. the 110hp version is okay already, but the 146 hp is really nice

[@johntechwriter]

My ND2 is the base Sport model (an incredible bargain), making it the lightest MX-5 in the range. The car is bog stock, no options, because I wanted the "purest' sports car I could find. It is much faster than the NA shown here. For the street you won't need Bilsteins, Brembos, or BBS -- the stock shocks and brakes will take whatever you throw at them, and I have never needed limited-slip -- though for autocross it is necessary. Mazda have employed every hot rod trick in the book to get 181 seamless hp at 7200 rpm out of its 2L four while at the same time lowering the rpm for peak torque to 4000. It is probably the most refined 2L on the market, giving superb drivability that no forced induction could match. Just keep the revs up, and with that close-ratio 6-speed (no overdrive) you'll always find the right gear. In the twisties I can get those skinny 16" tires into a gentle four-wheel drift like F1 cars from the '60s. More hp would unbalance the car at the limit and force the driver to tip-toe around corners, which is what the 911 and WRX pilots have to do, and that is why they can't shake me.

[@IdealGrain]

I'm not sure a canyon run is the right place to decide if a Miata has enough power. In any urban/suburban environment it's just the right amount of power to have fun without getting in lose-your-license or jailtime trouble. I drive a 2016 mazda 3 hatch with the same 2.0l as the ND miata. I also just had an ecoboost mustang rental, which was kind of boring around town and easy to get in trouble with (got pulled over within 10 minutes of picking it up - and I was just putting around town!). I was so relieved to get back in my little mazda 3 where I can have fun in all the gears without getting in trouble.

[@hershellumiere]

I would put headers and a tasteful exhaust that doesn't drone with conservative suspension mods. Same thing i would do to a FRS.

[@edregener7018]

What roll bar did you put in it?

[@joun888pwn]

Zach, what’s your opinion on the newer nd2 Miata with 181hp? When I drove my friends, it felt as fast as my s2k. Is it enough or am I feeling the short gearing?

[@kipp4805]

It also depends on the roads you'll be driving it. Miatas are perfect for very technical roads with lots of sharp turns with the amount of power they have. In the LA canyons with long sweeping curves where you can reach high speeds, yeah, you'll want more power. But the car really is best suited for super technical and tight roads, as the short wheelbase may not be the best for high speed stability, it will help the car rotate and link apexes much easier than a bigger car. Add more power to the equation and you've got a car that's you can easily lose control of. The low power imo pairs perfectly with the wheelbase then as you are gonna be shifting weight around while needing to stay in the power band for traction. But again, for long sweeping curves, you're gonna want a different car imo. Longer wheelbase and more power makes sense for the canyon roads being driven in the video.

[@steveskipper6473]

Iv'e been enjoying these One Takes for some time and I must have learned something as even I can see how good the turn in is on this car

[@rookietoprobuildz]

This video was worth the wait !

[@jacob.mp4]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

[@davidbouldin3864]

Stock power is enough until you drive one with substantially more. Then you can never be happy with stock. I have a stock 1990 and 2016. So for my 2003 I decided to visit the boys at superfastmiatas.com. You may know them as MINI Tec. They installed a 3.2 V6 from Acura and I now have 300HP with only a 9lb weight gain in the conversion. This is an option Mazda should offer. It has been described by several doubting test drivers as viscous. This takes the Miata to a new performance level. Try one then decide!

[@G333-k8o]

im sorry but the 9lb weight gain statement you made is a 100% lie

[@davidbouldin3864]

@@G333-k8o not true we measured before and after. Iron block out aluminum block in net gain is 9 pounds! You can confirm it with mini tec the builder. I can attest to no difference in front end handling. Rear end is a different story. I now have rear wheel steering.

[@GunsNBudder]

@@davidbouldin3864 What transmission are you using?

[@tokirak]

The kit uses the stock trans and diff

[@davidbouldin3864]

@@GunsNBudder the stock 6 speed. Research said they were good to 350 to 380. New clutch and dropped the rear gear from 4.3 to 3.3. I cant begin to say enough about how well this combo works. For comparison my other cars are a lotus elise, a ginetta g20, toyota mr2 spyder and a focus rs. This is seriously more old school sleeper fun

[@atlaspowershrugged]

I feel like part of the appeal of liking the Miata as a drivers car is the challenge of defending a slow car as a car that's fun to drive. You don't to show how smart you are by liking a corvette or a mustang or a 370z, but if you like something with 150 hp... ...big brain. Which is not to say the Miata is not actually fun.

[@chrisgregson3626]

‘You’ll never catch that dragon once you start chasing it.’ That comment sums up perfectly the difficulty with car modification, whatever you have. Car guys always want to go that bit quicker, but speed and acceleration are feelings you become used to very fast. There’s a lot to be said for driving a car, especially one like this mx-5, which are bordering classic status as the manufacturer intended. I’ve got a DC5 Integra type R, and it could use a bit more power and more compliant shocks, but that’s not what Honda wanted. Do I know better? No. Maybe the time is coming to look after and maintain these increasingly old cars. Want to go fast? Get a bike license.

[@tealchief]

to expand on his idea of 200 hp, the guys at flying miata have thrown on a cat back exhaust on the 2019 ND to net 173 whp for under 1k you're there. Once a header and tune is configured this thing will put down close to 200 whp.

[@thekeccles1996]

I think they are underpowered, but that's ok. The fact is that they're great cars to learn RWD dynamics on and with less power you're less likely to put it in a ditch! I think they're great for what they're meant for, but I do agree with you Zack - they're not as good as they could be. I think the new 2019 Miata is the most impressive stock one they've made so far. It's got the most power, a free-revving engine with a 7500 RPM redline, and a telescoping steering wheel (!!!) - but it's still a Miata so it's not as quick in the straights as, well, many other options. Honestly I can't wait to see what Flyin' Miata does with the 2019, because I reckon they'll do a good, reliable job bumping it up to the 200 HP mark, if not beyond. If anyone's going to make a quality successor to the MSM, it'll be them.

[@Brenton656]

Your wood is in immaculate condition.... 😂 amazing

[@ImLeuff]

Stock Miatas are roadsters with fantastic drivers inputs, not sports/track cars. And they do roadstering better than just about anything, drop the top and enjoy life in your affordable and dead reliable convertible

[@patrickarchibald6787]

I think more to the point, they need a little more power, but also more torque, so you don't have to rev the shit out of them all the time. A smallish turbo, but keep a fairly high compression ratio. Or a supercharger. Or a V6.

[@adamanderson8149]

What I liked about the older Miatas were the fact that you could stroke out a 302 and bolt it under the hood!

[@Shakshuka69]

Every Miata from 89 to 05 had roughly the same engine and same chassis so that should apply to all of those

[@adamanderson8149]

@@Shakshuka69 yes t does I just forgot when Mazda bought there brand back from ford. Thank you

[@G333-k8o]

you act like thats an easy accomplishment that people usually do

[@adamanderson8149]

@@G333-k8o basically a far better cooling system stroke the motor out and throw in a new trains a bit of cutting and welding. Your good

[@marccandrift]

Link your channel bro.. Couldnt find it

[@makelifefun5101]

“You’ll never catch that dragon”? Did Zack just make a heroin reference? Lol

[@rhull3939]

Yes he did.

[@danieljordannicol9937]

Wow all that weight loss has aided to your hair coming back. Well done bro!

[@JF-ns5zs]

Zack what’s your opinion on the m2?

[@NinaMango789]

Mazda definitely makes great steering racks, even in my big speed 6 it feels so quick even at low speeds

[@lz3390]

Eh, could you want more power? Sure. Do you need it? Not even a little. Brake less, don't short shift, and carry more speed. Get rid of the style bar, though!

[@Trendyflute]

This. Miata with stock power and minor suspension upgrades = "what is the brake pedal even for? Decoration?" Floor it up until every corner and never slow down :D I love that experience!

[@dougiequick1]

If only the Miata was built around the BRZ boxer motor...I mean not a swap option but IF it had been the powerplant Mazda engineers had to build the Miata around? Would just be AWESOME! Actually the best of the RX rotary engine might have been the ultimate? Would almost be a mid engine and would weigh even less than now! What was peak RX power? 238? Can you imagine? I owned an RX7 my first sports cr something about that rotary was just awesome...idk though as I HAVE completely spun my ND

[@clubracer6]

The leather seats cause you to sit a little higher in these. Get the cloth seats and do a foamectamy...

[@b2o7_url]

The first one take that is finished on the wrong parking lot

[@16vr6]

Is any Miata overpowered?

[@joshvaz00]

Are the older Miatas underpowered? Yes but the new one isn’t so much. The 2.0 soft top is decently quick compared to is predecessors and even the BRZ/86 is slower

[@FrenchValleyAirport]

I think the new miatas with 181hp is good considering the curb weight

[@dakotataylor7909]

Subframe/control arm bushings would be a good idea for the car if it has weird skiddish behaviour

[@seboskater]

Zack this is your best one yet.

[@peskachina]

One of the most beautiful miatas!

[@JustincakesHD]

The 2019 miata will have 181hp so hopefully that will get it to feel fast enough on the straights

[@ifrit35]

You don't necessarily need more power. Tighter corners would work too. I guess it's not an option in your part of the world but you can fit a turbo or supercharger legally in you country so problem solved.

[@Fuffcat]

"these cars are incredibly comfortable". LOL said no one ever.

[@umunhum]

BMW z3 m is a great roadster with some actual kick.

[@dougiequick1]

"change the oil if you feel like it"....please FEEL LIKE IT!

[@dougiequick1]

Most of the time I feel like I am hauling butt then I look down and I'm doing 65 or so....lol but it FEELS fast ya know? Do miatas "need" more power? As in are they unpowered for a daily driver? heck no way! Do MANY Miata driver including moi """NEEED" more power? YES! We DO! The worst I will say thing is passing power in the twisties existing motor is lacking and it can be dangerous ...or put it this way it would be safer with MORE power to complete a pass before someone speeding the oncoming direction suddenly appears! ya know? Riding my 165hp hp sportbike is so much more pleasant passing slower traffic! It is not even something to think about much less worry over.....not true with an ND especially uphill! I feel like 225ish hp might be the the sweet spot assuming the car gets no heavier...of course significantly more power probably demands more rubber and better brakes so theres a few pounds dang it ....I am hoping they have an HP option for 2025 Miata! THAT is what it will take for me to buy a new one.....my 2018 is barely boken in with like 23k miles....I am retired so it is only a weekend toy

[@SicSemperBeats]

naw 200hp in a base model 2018 would be a great value, and would probably get mad awards for best feeling performance for buck

[@danbenson5147]

My 2001 Special Editions 6 speed was horrendous. Also the bodies of the 2nd genes are rust buckets. Loved it to death. Wish it was a fucking 5 speed though. The gears were not even long.

[@bicboi1930]

Is the sky blue?

[@JohnDoe-df8bj]

Bic Boi Bic Dic 🍆

[@Archi2g]

I have one with intake/exhaust/ecu if you're not fat the vvt is fine.

[@stephencain3467]

i feel miatas are fine with the power they got its nothing amazing but its enought to get the job done my brother has a 91 Na miata and it feels really peppy for what it is of course more power is always welcome but theres a limit

[@utubejoe11]

Did Matt sell the channel or is this his cousin or ?

[@SomeTuts4U]

Definitely lol. I have the same exact car. It could use an extra 50 HP and torque.

[@vanquish421]

Sam, don't skimp. If you're changing suspension already, then you might as well do coilovers. You'll thank yourself in the long run.

[@bingoberra18]

Yes way too many think coils are automatically rock hard. It´s all about spring rates people, dont buy hard springs thats all there is to it

[@kdjddddmks3307]

Coilovers bro

[@aggt9266]

Yes, it is underpowered

[@BrickedUpp]

See, this is the type of Miata that would be worth 4-5k not those fuckin chipped paint, fart cans and stupid camber. Just because you put money into it doesn’t mean it actually increased the value

[@nicholasvonrhine541]

I cannot sleep unless I have at least 400 HP.

[@raveutcars]

Yes

[@ryanconklin1440]

I didn’t realize Zack was so short.

[@kojack635]

No, its much faster than the go-karts at putt putt

[@sadubone]

good host but you have a tendency to cut off the guest half way through every other sentence to talk about your experiences. it might be nice to hear what the guest has to say or let them finish. i watch these episodes to experience the car i can't drive or have the option to drive. it's not just about your opinion of the car or why it's not good enough. i think Matt was just more 'this is my opinion, yours might be different, but this is mine' it didn't feel like his was the only opinion in the car that mattered. i dunno might just be me today.

[@BigKidToys]

i have this identical car

[@grymrea8176]

4:24 - 4:29 thats what she said

[@robertwoodliff5622]

" ....... and the engine last s for ever ............ " stop with the more BHP , should it have more torque ? A longer stroke , same BHP , more get up to go .

[@R_Tower]

Yes. The answer to your question, is Yes.

[@TheLastHonk]

Yes, but every person who owns one will tell you its not.

[@potatochobit]

two people in an old miata, are you trying to go slower than a school bus? this generation is the worst miata of all.

[@CJBMAGGOT94]

All stock Miata's are underpowered.

[@SBDrockets]

Read too fast thought it read, S2000 powered Miata :(

[@golders99]

So true, these cars are just perfect. Checkout what they sound like with a Cobalt exhaust on them. Video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoXPq4V6Zd6qd5I

[@4.0_Ed]

Where’s Farrah

[@drummerdoingstuff5020]

Whos sister or girlfriend is complaining they need more power??

[@andeleputo89]

Every miata is underpowered

[@operamatthew]

next time we see this car it will have an LS swap

[@Christian_Meyer]

Matthew Bailey not a chance ahahah

[@wantapgt]

Nope, but a BRZ sure is!!!! Hahaha

[@silverpairaducks]

Just like mine

[@mikebarrett8681]

And mine, mine’s only got 40k miles😀

[@HighCarbJoey]

When did the big bald guy get skinny and hair?