The absurdity of Australia’s ‘Minister for Men's Behaviour’ - with Sall Grover & Terry Barnes

This week, Victorian premier Jacinta Allan has put Victoria on the international map with one of the most bizarre pieces of identity politics yet seen from a western government. On her Twitter account, Allan announced that ‘We have appointed the first Parliamentary Secretary [equivalent to a junior minister] for Men’s Behaviour in Australia’. What's going on?
The Spectator's John Connolly speaks to Sall Grover and Australian journalist Terry Barnes.
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[@SpectatorTV]

What are the arguments in favour of a Minister for Men's Behaviour?

[@steventipton5130]

The argument for the dept is man is bad there he needs to be regulated LOL

[@ImmortalComposer]

If it's supposed to solve violence against women, it should also have a minister for women's behavior, since girl on girl violent crimes and abuse exist but they seem to ignore it. We're seeing a very simple and predictable trend: Women become violent as they are more allowed to be violent (as many men would). The social norms and standards have allowed this, which just shows that both genders are capable of great violence towards any gender.

[@user-dw3wp1oc9e]

Next we get a minister for woman’s behaviour to be treated equal.

[@cunning-stunt]

Maybe it is to get men to report the violence against them, maybe that is the whole reason for this? I highly doubt it though.

[@jwc713]

Bring back coverture laws.

[@PixieTinsel]

Hands up who wants a minister for changing the government’s behaviour?

[@blackprince4074]

Nah! we need real people in government, not woke uni students and failed union officials that never even had a real job or owned a business. These aforementioned people have no idea of how to run a BUSINESS let alone a COUNTRY. The real issue is the breakdown of the family unit, it is so easy for a female to get pregnant ( the pill has been around for ages and there are other means of contraception) and raise a child on welfare supported by the government. I know of primary school students that have up to 3 fathers!!!! let that sink in my friend & it's not uncommon now.

[@_-Freeman-_]

Lets do more than changing the government's behaviour, lets get rid of them, ALP and LNP, get rid of the Uniparty completely.

[@knowthy-selftarot8982]

❤😂❤

[@helen9289]

I am putting my hand up for that one!!!!

[@tomsmith6513]

This whole thing is a Dan-made disaster

[@ObiePaddles]

Can’t define a woman, and by extension, a man and yet we have a minister to change behaviours of one of the sexes we can’t define.

[@bertsrig6153]

🤣

[@maskofsorrow]

Great point.

[@Mr.McWatson]

Because the left has nothing to do with logic and ONLY to do with expanding power by any means possible. They found the social justice train the most efficient.

[@ldl1477]

🤡🤡🤡

[@stuartturner6617]

Victoria the joke

[@pw3858]

A better name would be The minister of anti-male hatred and bigotry.

[@Alan-Godden]

Yep.

[@patrioticaussiesams8581]

That's the Agenda

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

Anybody still not convinced that feminism is, and always was, an all-out hide movement hidden by a thin veneer of having some nebulous benefit for women?

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

Anybody still not convinced that fehyminazism is, and always was, an all-out hide movement hidden by a thin veneer of having some nebulous benefit for the wahmenz?

[@julianfell666]

Ministry of Silly Walks.

[@fredmercury1314]

They should be sued for gender discrimination.

[@stevemartin7464]

Theres a good idea, but its just so depressing to see these constant stupid things happening, there isnt a week that goes by without some ridiculous event or other. This is getting both sad and dangerous as its damaging society.

[@darrynreid4500]

There's widespread open policies of blatant discrimination against males in direct violation of the law across the public services.

[@fredmercury1314]

@@darrynreid4500 In the UK too. There was a guy who sued, and won, the police for discrimination against him for being a white man during the hiring process. The police broke the law. Mind you, the BBC, MI5, Civil Service, Army, Air Force... they're all at it.

[@franknada8235]

As a man I have no power even though they make politics against me as if I was very powerful. They live extremely detached from reality and _that_ is the ruin of all.

[@JoshPhoenix11]

Does anyone know the process of how We The People actually go about suing the Government, or even throw the Government out? Which we're meant to be able to do.

[@mogznwaz]

So not a Minister FOR Men a Minister AGAINST Men. Shameful.

[@Cobalt1520]

I can see the slogan: "Minister for men's behaviour change" - because you have to change so that we can be "better".

[@anthonykenny1320]

Victoria out californiates California in the woke stakes

[@hazchemel]

Well put.

[@mostlikely...]

Vote Labor/Teal/Greens win stupid prizes 🤡🇦🇺

[@Mgtowfreedom]

so just out of curiosity are we going to have a ''minister for women's behaviour'' that's a MAN !!!, I'm guessing NOT ! ergo MGTOW is the ONLY logically safe option for men

[@albionboi8091]

Australia is just a joke at this point

[@hellas_crater]

It's Victoria, not Australia. Vic's are weird .......

[@baazinews1027]

It Always Was The Aboriginals Were Declared Animals to Be Hunted Long Ago

[@CG-dd9tb]

No it isn’t Right wing snowflakes making mountains out of molehills

[@Willy_Tepes]

They are giving the US a run for their money.

[@kimsherlock8969]

No woke is a joke

[@stepkycopky9354]

I am an Australian man that served in the Australian defence force for over 20 years, and I am 54, and have had a gut full of the BS in Australia and now live a very happy life in Thailand with my beautiful Thai wife and son.

[@trevor6513]

Mate, I can totally understand why you left. Thanks for your service.

[@AddisRS]

Mate, I'm thinking of moving to Thailand. I hate Australia with a passion. How is the lifestyle and prices in comparison to Australia?

[@rogerelzenga4465]

@@AddisRS you can have a decent life for about 1000$ us a month..... how you get the money is a problem, if you take on a job its hard to reach the point, if you got a income source from the west its like living like a king ^^

[@johnm84]

Good on you and I'm happy for you. You are lucky to have been able to leave Australia. Australia has become a horrible country to live in especially if you're a man and especially if you're a white heterosexual man. Australia is shit and I want to leave Australia and I plan on leaving Australia as soon as I can and I'm planning on moving to Bosnia.

[@rodmills4071]

Mate, more power to yah... 😎🇦🇺👌

[@pw3858]

I thought discrimination based on gender was illegal

[@fionahobbs8818]

How wrong is it to imply that men need to change their behaviour' but women don't. How sexist is that? How about we look after men, look after women, look after families.

[@LettyK]

Exactly, Fiona. We live in a world where up is down and down is up.

[@jameseverett9037]

Isn't that what feminism was all about from the beginning? Make men give more stuff and privileges to women, without any of the accompanying responsibilities?

[@dalemcdenver7816]

​@@jameseverett9037 This isn't just about feminism. It's a general problem of giant governments with to much power over their peoples everyday life, no matter if it's the old German one, how China handles it, royalty and nobles or as we see even "democracies". To much power and they start coming up with stuff to look needed or to fulfill their need for control or to generate more money for themselves or...

[@latinhero1818]

Who is "we" in this situation?

[@Leo_Pard_A4]

​@LettyK well, it is Australia.

[@tetraquark2402]

Imagine if they had Minister for Women's Behaviour.

[@Mr.McWatson]

no no, holding women to any kind of standard is in itself sexist and evil, they are ethereal, angelic creatures, you see!

[@joetesta5730]

@@Mr.McWatson I agree. The answer is for men to take their balls back and stop simping/

[@md85aus94]

Seeing domestic violence is 35x higher. Imagine a minister for indigenous behaviour

[@user-tr6vf2qn2e]

Yep, of course! ...and to be fair it would have to be a "trans" woman. Oh the irony.

[@aldunlop4622]

We'd never live in that paradise.

[@Azraiel213]

Female violence against children is appaulingly common, and yet completely ignored.

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

In my childhood my mum was abusive, my father never was. Dad kept her in check, mostly, until he died.

[@Scar-jg4bn]

@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus same.

[@istp1967]

"We incarcerate petty criminals and elect major ones to public office" -- Aristotle.

[@jwc713]

The modern atheist philosopher, Jurgen Habermas: "Christianity, and nothing else, is the ultimate foundation of liberty, conscience, human rights, and democracy, the benchmarks of Western civilization. To this day, we have no other options. We continue to nourish ourselves from this source. Everything else is postmodern chatter." 1 Samuel 8:6-9 for the win.

[@tenthousanddays2103]

"Steal a little and they throw you in jail. steal a lot and the make you king". Bob Dylan

[@globalroamer1900]

Female violence and abuse is almost never reported.

[@veritasliberabitvos454]

Or punished.

[@nikobellic570]

Whataboutism. The relative size, strength, vulnerability during pregnancy and early years childcare, and typical financial dependency leaves females more open to abuse. It's correct that we focus on mysogynistic violence. The crime statistics overwhelmingly show women and girls as victims. There are female perpetrators of course and they get lots of media attention as they are unusual.

[@robetybob1]

Spot on, women’s violence against men is rarely reported in this anti “white’ male world 13:42 😊

[@veritasliberabitvos454]

@@kiranmcgoldrick4247 While we are there about that how women rape men and rape young school boys and how it is completely covered up. And you realise the very statement you made is illogical.

[@Lyle-fv9mm]

@@kiranmcgoldrick4247really? In this age of #metoo where a man can lose his livelihood for a bad date( “bad” not including a hint of violence or SA) you really believe rapes aren’t being reported?

[@globalroamer1900]

Feminism was never about sexual equality.....wake up Australia.

[@razorback0z]

you are distracted, this is about stealing your taxes

[@Mercmad]

It began in Australia with Germaine Greer.

[@TheLucanicLord]

They're after your guns!

[@Victor-bx9hr]

Spot on! Feminism is all about power! The way it is changing our culture, gender dynamic and landscape, you have to wonder weather its affects on society, is more destructive than terrorism! When a woman is ever in trouble, its men they run to. But when they live in a peaceful and progressive society, they are all victims of everything! Accountability and responsibility are absent amongst the feminist group. Women are more endanger of domestic violence in same sex relationship than heterosexual relationship. Go figure! I guess the horse has bolted! Just let it rot!

[@theseustoo]

@@Mercmad Who, in an interview I remember watching during the '80s, laughingly admitted that in its early days was a lesbian conspiracy...

[@SpectreOZ]

Female perpetrators of DV generally face no consequences as Males mentioning such behaviour are met with mockery.

[@user-Kova15]

And yet most people will claim to be moral and believe in a higher power

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

The rabbit hole goes SOOOO much deeper. This comment focuses solely on violence without any attention to aggression. Most acts female aggression in households takes the form of subtle terrorism...sometimes less subtle including theft, vandalism, and slander both within the household and other couple-related spaces.

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

Males aren't just met with mockery, they are even threatened with prosecution. And some guys are so braindead from growing up around that they take offense when you keep that check from being cashed at their asses expense.

[@user-yw8qf8cc3t]

There is a Minister for Women

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

@@user-yw8qf8cc3t A minister for women's unearned privileges...err...I mean "rights"

[@KenshinPhoenix]

They wonder why men are wary of having any interaction with women anymore, this kind of blatant misandry is why. As an Australian I'm disgusted by what this woke country has become and I often think of leaving.

[@jasondashney]

I'm Canadian so trust me, I feel you.

[@KenshinPhoenix]

@@jasondashney Yeah, that hurts too lol. I don't know how Trudeau feels safe to walk the streets and sit in cafes as he's trolled lol.

[@Mr_G_in_Alba]

Its no better here in the UK either. Even now its proven that men make up 35% of all DV victims, 33% of all domestic homicide victims, and top every poll, survey and stat focusing on negative socio economic outcome.......... Govt still refuse to appoint a minister for male wellbeing, denied men and boys a day in parliament to discuss "the masculinity crisis", refuse to discuss equal representation on the equalities commission, and didnt even invite representatives of male DV victims to the table when discussing legal strategies to tackle the issue. All of the above were granted to women and girls 30 years ago.

[@gregtanner1444]

How about a minister for idiotic politicians.

[@midnightteapot5633]

The ministry of silly walks suddenly seems no longer funny and an actual possibility .

[@kt1696]

Love that suggestion. Brilliant.

[@beauzo9965]

How much more debt can we afford

[@paulcarfantan6688]

@@midnightteapot5633 Was that a long ago Monty Python sketch ? Because it sounds familiar.

[@alanc6781]

Now, that would be a big department.

[@mr.mayhem7402]

Are they going to set up a Ministry for Muslim Men's Behaviour?

[@tomorrow6]

They don’t actually want to solve the problem. That would make the position no longer required.

[@clifffowler2581]

Exactly.... perhaps this has been set up for the uncivilized cultures amongst us.

[@sectarianvegan7279]

*Exceptions Apply To Certain Demographics

[@avaraxxblack5918]

No. Becuase they'll actually defend their own. To dangerous for the govt to do that.

[@johncrow5552]

@@tomorrow6 they will keep changing the definition and soon, a woman who dies in a car crash will be the victim of DV and the chains on men will be tightened further.

[@AwakeNotWoke]

Not interested until they address abusive women

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

Anybody still not convinced that fehyminazism is, and always was, an all-out hate movement hidden by a thin veneer of having some nebulous benefit for the wahmenz?

[@annroousivakumar2819]

133 children killed by maternal filicide in the last 10 years. This will never be discussed.

[@Up_north_with_Mike]

We need to change this behaviour. Calling everybody a misogynist, anti-vax, anti-climate, anti-WEF, anti-health, anti everything else is mental. The virtue signalling is dangerous.

[@yewknight]

This is how the left makes a play at authoritarianism. I am a leftist and I find this appalling.

[@jem77469]

Wow, do people actually view "anti-WEF" as a slur? Sign me up.

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

Psychologically it's nothing new historically, just new weasel words for a new age. Identity politics. Divide and conquer is older than the Roman Empire, there's nothing new under the sun.

[@milesduheaume203]

Yeah agree. I think what we're seeing here is the rise of a new kind of Puritanism. Some call it socialism, but I think it's actually dumber than that.

[@Madonnalitta1]

It's counter productive too, they've overused the words which now mean very little to switched on people. "Oh, you think I'm racist? ....That's nice, dear!".

[@philippawesterman8843]

When are we getting a minister for changing TOXIC WOMEN'S BEHAVIOUR, starting with Senator Payman and Laura Tingle.

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

Anybody still not convinced that fehyminazism is, and always was, an all-out hate movement hidden by a thin veneer of having some nebulous benefit for the wahmenz?

[@simplygreen5832]

Gossiping, ghosting, foodie calls, false allegations... plenty of toxic behavior to go after.

[@YammoYammamoto]

@@simplygreen5832 Don't forget the female equivalent to "Man-splaining".... "Nagging".

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

How about aborting babies, that seems like slightly toxic behavior.

[@AF-gd7fh]

Maybe when women commit 90% of violent crimes and 95% of SA's we can?

[@needparalegal]

Orwell was way too optimistic about how nice the future would be.

[@mikechevreaux7607]

This IS What You Get, Allowing Women To VOTE! 😜

[@chelseapoet3664]

We need a minister for women's behaviour....false accusations, parental alienation, abuse of minors, gold digging, false advertising, reputation destruction, I could go on......

[@lynnepugd3511]

You forgot the biggest and worst thing women do to men , Paternity Fraud !!

[@mgreenesco9955]

I agree that many things women do are terrible too but the answer isn't more gov in our lives the answer is far far less gov in our lives so we can actually live! At this point we're basically slaves.

[@Calphurnia966]

The items that you listed, are not "women's" specifically gender problems . They are human ego specific ones . And although individual women do go in for those specific listed arrogances, there is individual men who do so and in far greater numbers . Which is especially true for the "gold digging" . That involves the mining industry actually. And is largely, a male dominated sector , large male gold miner numbers , and far fewer females are gold diggers. That is according to statistical facts and data . But on all those listed , they are not specific to either gender, but rather, individual and/or family unit circles of trust specific, that ripple effect into broader areas of society. For example, you could be a quiet neighbourly man who goes to work each day at the local chemist dispensing medicines full time , quiet, hard working individual and living a quiet and peaceful respected life ; to all appearances and by all community accounts on his character. BUT , the community accounts have got it wrong on the peaceful and quiet because they aren't aware , that two doors down from where he lives, there is a monstrosity of a man who spends a significant part of the evenings raging like a mad bull at everyone who lives in the same home, and being two doors away, can hear everything. And it is the opposite side of peace and quiet . And he is a stranger to it and the people who live there . No one of his customers, are aware of how loud and violent, his own existence is . Because he says nothing about what is going on, two doors down as he doesn't want it impacting on his own hard working life, as a chemist. He doesn't want to upset his customers.. And that's how these things work . (Usually) . No one, male or female, knows what goes on in other people's lives . They only think they do. And those people who think they know everything about what is going down in the town, are the characters who are the biggest perpetrators of those things, you listed, as they are the individuals , who have the biggest egos . As they are actually the biggest perpetrators of those things you list, for the mere FACT that they are always trying to entangle and enmesh and interfere , overtake, and control, someone else's business, instead of just doing what the chemist does . Minding, his own .

[@helen9289]

exactly neither sex is blameless in the terrible actions category but this dividing us stops proper protection from psychopaths

[@Calphurnia966]

No Helen. People need to understand, that division is necessary. Instead of seeing it, as threatening. That is why, we have female only hairdressing salons, gymnasiums, women's groups, women's health only , and women's shelters and women's restrooms . So think about it like this next time you go out shopping and need to use a public restroom. Would you yourself, feel comfortable , if the only restroom facility was an "undivided" toilet that has been constructed to be unisex friendly ? And you walk into it, and it has men in there ? And I want you to think about it . The reason why there is division, is because we are OPPOSITE genders . That is the nature of things . It is not the divisions, anyone needs to be threatened by . There is all boy boarding schools, and all girl boarding schools , female football teams, male football teams ; and that is all reasonable and normal Helen. The people, one actually needs to be cautious around, are those who actually DON'T accept those options as normal , and want everything ; everything unisex SHARED . Who want everything an "all in." Which is not realistic nor fair on both genders . So it is actually not "divides" anyone needs to be threatened by. It is people who don't allow for it, that are nutters Helen. ​@@helen9289

[@alexclarke1584]

Australia, the country of tough, intelligent, hardworking people turning itself into a joke internationally. Please stop this, we loved you the way you were.

[@user-pj5ub5cp9k]

FTUK Free Julian Assange.

[@kellieheald]

So did I😪

[@user-pj5ub5cp9k]

Stop what? Trying to find solutions to the problem of men murdering the partner or former partner? 🤔

[@jdg9999]

​@@user-pj5ub5cp9k No, stop using an incredibly rare problem as a pretext to restructure society around anti male leftist ideology.

[@davefitzpatrick4841]

​@@user-pj5ub5cp9kPlease do tell how we are going to stop it ? Every time someone goes on a date are we going to make it law the make comes along with a medical record of their personality? Are we going to warn women if they are on a date with a Muslim man ( we know that women are treated differently under Islamic law ) . Basic facts are there are good men and bad men , the same goes for women, no "educating" will ever change that, we all have a built in moral compass . We can educate women to look for certain signs in a mans behaviour, but often these women are infatuated with these men and overlook or refuse to see the signs and sadly are often attracted to these types . So perhaps it should be a minister of educating women on picking the right men for relationships. There has always been bad people, and there always will be ,no minister is ever going to stop this . It would be interesting to see how you think we can solve this issue 🤔

[@andykaufman7620]

Why cant we have a Minister for Changing Womens Behavior?

[@jasonlee8156]

I would love to see the reactions from the feminists on that one 😂🙂

[@andykaufman7620]

@@jasonlee8156 If Feminist weren't Fake it would seek to change Woman's behavior and woman would get sick of it, not living up to the standards Feminist's demand of woman. Feminism tells woman what they Want to Hear, not what they Need to Hear.

[@HB-iq6bl]

Australian Supreme court cant define a woman

[@Othraerir]

couldn't find a dictionary?

[@davidkennedy4845]

Well then, the australian supreme court is stupid.

[@user-ih4qs5sv3y]

The Victorian Labor Gov is a sad joke, it's horrible living in Victoria, we have the weakest Labor Fed Gov in the world and the most embarrassing state Labor Gov ever elected. Most men in our society are decent people and most woman would agree with that.The Labor Gov needs to stay out of men and boys lives and stop treating and inferring that they are potential criminals.

[@user-pj5ub5cp9k]

So, no sympathy for the women murdered in Victoria this year? No surprise coming from a LNP voter. Been partying with Bruce Lehrmann have you?

[@frankmoylan7168]

@@user-pj5ub5cp9k You're showing your bias and your ignorance. Check the ABS stats. We are talking about a very small percentage of the population and many are repeat offenders. Stop demonising men for the abhorrent actions of the very few.

[@user-pj5ub5cp9k]

@frankmoylan7168 I'm not demonising men. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying there appears to be a problem, and there's nothing wrong with trying to solve it.

[@peterRobinson10101]

​@user-pj5ub5cp9k the problem is the thousands of women who are financially incentivized to make false allegations against men. Thousands of innocent fathers in prison divested of assets and removed from their children who have done absolutely nothing wrong.

[@notsofatmike1]

@@user-pj5ub5cp9k Gender isn't the issue. All murders are bad. All violence is bad. All abuse is bad. Stop drinking the progressive kool aide. Been partying with Dan Andrews, have you?

[@hippo319]

That they have a minister just for men's behavior is absurd enough but the fact it's a woman is most telling

[@RufusToots420]

I thought she said it would be a man? Either way completely absurd.

[@smellbag]

It's a soy boy.

[@douglascampbell4993]

thats not sexist at all now, is it!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@abjectt5440]

The shackles are coming boys.

[@simbi8797]

It is a male.

[@noncompliant4316]

Imagine the reaction if there was a Minister for Changing Women's Behaviour.

[@NoOne56488]

So no minister to look into why men's suicide is 2 times the amount of women, or why 2 times the amount of men are being killed. I'm so sick and tired of being painted as this bad person for even existing at this point, I've been on the end of abusive from my ex with parental alienation among others, from my sister and from my own mother when i was young. Where is the minister for all that, oh that's right I'm told to suck it up as a man and carry on, what a sick joke the Vic government is. Also the majority of domestic violence comes from 2 women couples, let that sink in.

[@kilroy1964]

If dv is such a male thing, why then is there more of it amongst lesbians?

[@yewknight]

And most mutually violent situations involve women hitting men first.

[@347Jimmy]

It is odd that the government wants to protect women, but gives a free pass to abusive lesbians Seems like they only care about protecting straight women, how bigoted of them

[@stevem815]

Because men alter their behaviour in response to the emotional state of their partner while women don't. Women are programmed to expect that sulking, crying etc. will result in their partner doing what they want. When that doesn't happen because their partner is a woman, they basically flip out.

[@jeffa847]

And why is it that in my own life I have seen it just as frequently starting with women

[@yewknight]

And according to crime statistics, in DV situations where both parties are swinging, women are more likely to have been the first to become violent.

[@S3NTRY]

Pathologising men's behaviour. That's healthy. Thanks once again, feminists.

[@user-pj5ub5cp9k]

There has been a series of horrific crimes committed by men against women in Victoria recently. Are you defending those crimes?

[@jchambers3792]

@@user-pj5ub5cp9kclearly not. What a silly thing to say.

[@user-pj5ub5cp9k]

@@jchambers3792 34 women were murdered by their current or former male partner in Australia last year. That number has spiked this year. And you're blaming feminists for pathologising men's behaviour? BS.

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

We're men. We can brush this off our backs. When feminism attacks men, all it is doing is sawing through the branch it is sitting on. Civilizations rise and fall and, after they have fallen, that is when men have their time.

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

@@user-pj5ub5cp9k I suspect most of them were trans men. I suspect also the official stats don't differentiate so prove me wrong.

[@george6977]

Is there a minister for sweeping issues under the carpet? I note Australia wanted a global ban on showing the Islamist knife attack against a Christian bishop.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

"Women are equal! Women are equal! Women are equal!" "Okay... we should address domestic violence equally." "Not THAT equal!"

[@davidbarnett3821]

Men and women are equal, but women are more equal than men

[@nc5337]

We should definitely address both, but if the issue is 80% male violence vs 20% female violence, adjust resources accordingly.

[@bertsrig6153]

Monty Python would be so jealous they didn’t think of that one.

[@resurrectingexcellence]

😂😂😂

[@zapfanzapfan]

Ministry of Silly Walk applies to this and many other ministries/departments...

[@iainw5081]

I would have thought tackling poverty, homelessness, etc. would be priorities.

[@jameseverett9037]

oh no, not with woke government. Their priorities are always sinister and against the interests of those who have done the most good for society.

[@atilla4352]

No, its more important for you to understand my sexuality and pronouns! I mean, how would be function without that?

[@credenza1]

That would require actual planning and hard decisions. Its much easier just to fling labels around.

[@justinelliott3529]

Those are pressures that lead to violence

[@alanjm1234]

Labor is working hard on poverty and homelessness. And they're increasing nicely!

[@Bennie32831]

Victorian government can't determine what a man is 😂😂😂 how are they going to have a minister for it😂

[@Morbazan125]

If people can’t already follow the law, adding a minister is just going to be a waste of money

[@nunchuckfilms]

The is all the government ever does.

[@chuckevans2792]

Dept of Misandry?

[@pistonburner6448]

Minister for Women's Hysteria

[@katrionalaurenm]

Stating the truth of male behaviour is not misandry. If you don't like it, change it.

[@katrionalaurenm]

@pistonburner6448 You boys are the ones acting all testerical

[@pistonburner6448]

@@katrionalaurenm I reported your crazy ass for insults, slander, etc. and hate speech

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

@@katrionalaurenm you just proved their point...🙄😕

[@trentjorgensen4629]

As a man I’m offended. It sounds like a sure fire way of getting men to dig their heels in and not change a thing not that the large majority of men need to change anything. I’m also really pissed of that my taxes are going towards this crap.

[@user-yw8qf8cc3t]

They should have gone on strike many years ago

[@dhammaboy1203]

I am a man who was in an abusive and cohesive relationship for 3 years. The only people who believed me where my brother, his girlfriend and my best mate. If I tried to discuss the issue with anyone else they would go quite & stare at the ground and not make eye contact. Not only was my partner gaslighting me - our whole society was gaslighting me! It was really bizarre that people outright refused to verbally acknowledge the possibility I was being abused. There is something really wrong in our thinking when we assume men cannot be mentally and physically abused by their partner! Nothing I say here diminishes the concern we should have about women being more frequent victims of abuse. But why do we as a society get so uncomfortable when the gender is reversed in these issues? We need to look at this honestly because there are causes in our society leading to this emotionally damaging bias! I think both these speakers màke excellent points!

[@jameseverett9037]

And thus........you have MGTOW

[@dropbear9526]

Women are not more frequent victims of abuse. That's a myth. 10 men each week end it all because of abusive women. 1 women each week is ended because of a man.

[@Bennie32831]

Bitter feminist poison is real 🙄

[@MJEve69]

Never forget that domestic violence is roughly the same between sexes, except that when it's perpetrated by men, it's criminalized. Very little women are prosecuted for the slapping, yelling, and general acts of violence they commit.

[@drez13]

Plenty of coercive and broadly abusive behaviour from women- and just plain bad dispute resolution skills. Plenty of drug abuse in many (but not all) cases to

[@vumba1331]

What about in lesbian relationships?

[@davidkennedy4845]

Thats equality for you!

[@jo.k235]

Im a woman here in Queensland Australia another toxic state but can proudly say all my 52 years I have always been surrounded by fantastic, strong, loyal, loving and respectful men in my life like my wonderful husband my father and both my grandfathers Im very lucky. But too tar all men with the same brush is maddening to me but thats how our governments here in our country of Australia want our female population to view all men here as they cant be trusted they are all predators to be feared and that all women are just innocent victims which is absolutely ridiculous. Who is seriously buying this bullshit. Thanks great video guys.

[@jgcelliott1]

Feminists lap this stuff up like cats with milk. .

[@moto3463]

Women lie about men than vice versa. Cheers Ladies, your down-fall of freedom has started because of victimizing men for years.

[@Madonnalitta1]

No one who is even slightly switched on...but 2020 showed us how few that it.

[@user-ry6hy3vp1o]

So well said. Unfortunately the young are falling for this bizarro lines.

[@helen9289]

most of us have the few psychopaths that do these things are not indicative of all men nor all women for that matter just deal with the crime not penalise an entire people this one size fits all is just disgraceful

[@romemancer7905]

Dan Andrews was found to have a toxic culture of bullying in his own workplace...and Jacinta Allen looked up to...and worked under this man for years...Who is she trying to fool ???

[@MadsterV]

It's her villain arc

[@theairstig9164]

She is trying to fool the electorate

[@pgstdb]

In a Democracy, there should be both a Minister for Men's Behaviour and a Minister for Women's Behaviour. Or neither.

[@kojoefante]

And yet even in primitive African world they had and do have that smh

[@anthonybrett]

Holy shit! I'm Australian and I didn't even know we'd gone this bat shit crazy! Please, can I say that most of us are SANE!

[@nikobellic570]

Australia has a lot going for it. Progressivist regimes do crazy stuff

[@shanerobertson6267]

Just our feminist Karen’s who can’t read statistics- whom permeated all levels of government

[@user-tr6vf2qn2e]

Nope... Sorry. Based on what we see from afar the "majority" must all be crazy 🤣 ...to keep voting for IDIOTS. Clearly the inmates are running the Asylum - right across the western nations.

[@ulrichkern7004]

How then do you end up with these insane politicians?

[@anthonybrett]

@@ulrichkern7004 It isn't from my vote. lol But that being said, Victoria is like the US version of California. It's also near bankrupt finically as well compared to every other Aus state.

[@werewolvesandfriendsuk]

I want equality - and a "Minister of Women's Behaviour". Fair Dinkum aay!

[@pollyparrot9447]

Women do need to be trained to stop spreading their legs for violent goons, but a government department isn't going to achieve that any more than it will have any effect on the goons.

[@50NewEyes]

How about a minister for womens accountability…?

[@jasondashney]

The thing is, violence is very easy to identify but emotional abuse is not. One is cut and dried, and the other isn't. Because emotional abuse is so nebulous, women will never be held accountable for it. Unless it's unbelievably egregious, it's almost impossible to prove. Destroying somebody emotionally is certainly more common in than destroying someone physically, yet the former well almost never face repercussions.

[@ivananderson141]

Where is the minister for women's behaviour

[@theresearcher253]

Victoria. Isn't that the state that turned its police force into a lockdown enforcing Gestapo during the pandemic? Remind me never to visit!

[@mgreenesco9955]

Yes, unlawfulness and corruption as far as the eyes can see here all by organisations that should know better. Victoria's gov and policing is a disgrace.

[@glenemma1]

Yes, Victoria usually has a leftist Gov't. Most of the people in this state live in Melbourne which is the ''woke'' capital of the world.

[@glennstokes-gd9yt]

Sure is.I live in Victoria.Not worth a visit.More Mumbai than Melbourne now.

[@drugilbert2447]

Victoria is a communist utopia don't disagree they will gulag you.

[@helen9289]

sadly yes our police became the enforcement arm of the government rather than our protectors from criminals in the government !!

[@larx4074]

All part of the ongoing war against testosterone.................. how queer.............

[@tonyhoffman3309]

Unless it is being given to women and children of course.

[@Tiasung]

@@whyamishadowbanned8222 They are actually trying to create more gay men and have been for atleast 70 years.

[@TheHoodmailbox]

Imagine a ‘Minister for Changing Blacks’ Behaviour.’ Just as reprehensible.

[@hippiebroughton5564]

Prime Example why men are walking away , A good number of us are checking out . This is what woman wanted they can have it your welcome .

[@tlb2970]

The Victorian Government is totally cookoo

[@solvingpolitics3172]

Bet they won’t even demand one women in a hijab prosecute their father or husband.

[@user-pj5ub5cp9k]

How could any government demand that? Violence against women is disgracefully undereported. Stupid comment.

[@RufusToots420]

Exactly.

[@nikobellic570]

For wearing a headscarf?

[@leevan2332]

Yes a certain culture gets a free pass to do as they please

[@RufusToots420]

@@leevan2332 cult more than culture

[@DrunkJester]

So, the 2015 royal commission on family violence, the police put on notice, and all those ads. So we ignore all that, not question the failure, but start again and throw more money at it until we forget again. Brilliant great minds at work.

[@knowthy-selftarot8982]

A vote for no confidence in the country

[@vimzim8576]

My ex-neighbour for the majority of the time I knew her was a sole parent, she had a young boy, 9 years old when they first moved in. She was given sole custody, the father had very limited access to him, they split up because he cheated on her, not because he was abusive. She would constantly be screaming at the young boy, day and night, it was so bad a lot of the nearby neighbours would talk amongst ourselves about it. I bumped into her when going to get my mail one night and I struck up a conversation with her, asked her how she was going. She was feeling frustrated because her son was acting out a lot. She was constantly apologising for his behaviour but he wasn't doing anything that I didn't do as a kid and nobody yelled at me night and day. My dad wasn't around much when I grew up, he was too busy to spend much time with any of us kids, he wasn't much of a father figure and whilst he was occasionally abusive towards my mother when he lost control, he never hit her. I don't know where his anger or lack of self-control came from, but it wasn't something that conditioned either my brother or me to be abusive, thankfully. My best friend's father was more of a father figure to me than my father was, I spent a lot of time with them and they threated me like family. My neighbour's boy wasn't a bad boy, he moved somewhere new, he had no friends, no role model, barely got to see his father and he acted out to get attention from his mother to the point that even negative attention was attention and because of her frustration she abused him verbally, emotionally and psychologically. I think it is common, especially amongst broken homes or with parents that had experienced abuse themselves. I think if we just look at symptoms we will be pissing into the wind, it will be very hard to identify and treat people who have developed to have abusive traits. By not looking at the environments where boys are raised into men and the role women also play in producing these men we will never make any meaningful steps to improve the situation at all, let alone cure society of this blight. The government also doesn't want to admit that there is a significant amount of violence on women coming from the migrant population, the ABC covered a study in 2021 where a third of migrant women had experienced abuse, some have come from cultures that do not treat women like we do here, yet this is taboo to talk about it and because people don't want to appear as being racist they have thrown an entire generation of women under a bus and the fallout is they do not restrict their abusive mindset just to other migrants. As a child of an immigrant, it is okay to call a spade a spade. We aren't all over-sensitive morons. The sooner new Australians adopt Australian values, the better it is going to be for everyone. If you do not want to adopt Australian values, don't move here. You are just not going to resolve any problems without the ability to get your hands dirty. If you want to improve the status quo you need to get psychologists involved that know what they are talking about and leave the safe space feminists to Twitter.

[@tongoio]

Absolutely violence from women against men occurs in relationships. Not only physical but sustained psychotic verbal abuse as well. I have witnessed it and the police apathy to it

[@TheSnedmeister]

No police help and I mean zero help from them. There just as bad

[@bondalemecovillage6738]

100% & emotional violence, pussy power, sleeping with a husbands mates or a bf's friends, come on that's a shotgun blast to any man's heart

[@Lemczek]

What's the old Swedish saying? A woman's sword is in her mouth

[@Madonnalitta1]

​@Barnesyyymake domestic violence a more serious crime.... ...and if you accuse an innocent of it to ruin his life then you get the same punishment that he'd have got if he was found guilty.

[@philgrogan6924]

it was also in Vic Aus, that school boys were made to apologise to the girls in their school at assembly, for things they didn't personally do, ie sexual assaults by men.

[@awsambdaman]

That’s wild and a horrible thing to do to young boys

[@diyvideojunk2066]

Reassuring that the UK isn't quite the most bonkers place on Earth ... wait ... Angela Rayner is new Deputy PM .. scrub that !

[@jg5032]

I think this initiative from Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan will be successful in changing men's behaviour, as currently lot of them are still voting for her party.

[@tbonemc2118]

If we need a behaviour change then let's do something about Australia's 90,000 abortions each year.

[@ma3stro681]

I will be placing Labor last on all future ballots …

[@peterk2455]

The only reason Allen is premier, is because the previous hit and run driver is busy trying to find an overseas plum posting. While avoiding a prison cell which is where it belongs.

[@garystrahan4601]

​​@@peterk2455 ​ you left out that the hit and run driver is also keeping his distance from those very slippery stairs in the Portsea house of Lindsay Fox that a very much younger female just happened to be in very close proximity to at the time he slipped and fell down those stairs while attending a party there. nudge nudge wink wink

[@IesApac]

Any man voting Allan or ALP is 100%c*cked and probably a doormat and victim in their relationship with women.

[@peternash284]

Could we have a minister appointed to change toxic behavior of the Labor government in Victoria?

[@dcmanuel7232]

I'm guessing a lot of Aussie men are going to take that announcement as a challenge rather than a threat.....

[@neomonk5668]

How about a minister to change criminal behavior?

[@granthallam7644]

Absolute bloody nonsense!

[@davidr9876]

Imagine if there was a Minister of women's behavior. You'd hear the screams of outrage all around the world.

[@glennsoulsby5351]

Can this government do anything that isn’t divisive?

[@Bazrad68]

Just heard about this new minister. I’m embarrassed to live in Victoria. This is a nonsense.

[@pistonburner6448]

Their first case should be about trans 'women' threatening women.

[@spookycat8556]

Yes. Keep men out of womens spaces.

[@ribbonsofnight]

This is Victoria we're talking about

[@nickbarber2080]

That busts the whole sorry story wide-open...those men are displaying the most extreme form of male-pattern aggression while wearing frocks. But we know they won't be criticised....

[@postmodernmining]

Thats against cult doctrine.

[@realfamilyman]

Then lets-be-friends doing the same.

[@simondymond8479]

I just watch Autralia in horror these days. Canada levels of societal decline and corruption on steroids. A major case of look over here at this non issue. While we fill our pockets.

[@smellbag]

Woke central gravy train station right here. How delicious .

[@dutchylt]

Victoria is the california of Australia.

[@michaelblackmore4332]

What the hell has happened in Oz? Why are you voting for these clowns?

[@davidvanderklauw]

Many Aussies are too lazy to study their candidates. They just rote-vote their grandpa's favourite political party.

[@fbboringstuff]

Haven’t for a long time gerrymandering has ruined the system here, of course those whom benefit from it chose to entrench it

[@jonathanparle8429]

We aren't voting for them!!!!!

[@RichardJohnson-nq9ys]

It is not who votes that count, but the ones who count the votes.

[@bobomac8330]

Immigrants

[@xGarrettThiefx]

Just watch them go straight after the children in the schooling system !

[@andrewmacdonald4833]

already doing it...

[@Madonnalitta1]

Yep, we'd better be prepared to be their shield.

[@Tiasung]

@@Madonnalitta1 You are like half a century too late for that.

[@user-yw8qf8cc3t]

More child abuse for the Equality merchants

[@maxsmodels]

Their advertisements need to have Austin Powers going “Oh behave”. 😂

[@user-dw3wp1oc9e]

An attempt to prevent the crime of assault should not cause division. Anger management.

[@rodpitt2709]

How about equality! What about a minister for women's behaviour

[@helen9289]

we already have that condescending minister for women not sure what they do but I don't like the idea of it anyway

[@GMN360]

Poor old Victoria, once considered to be the most refined and conservative state of the country…

[@marionm5311]

Sais a lot about the Home of the new w o

[@gregyoung1888]

Maybe due for a name change. Woketoria?

[@GMN360]

@@gregyoung1888 perfect! Does Commitoria work?

[@gregyoung1888]

@@GMN360 That will also work.

[@Dannyboy0202]

Sicktoria

[@paulineolive940]

The message it sends is to vote these clowns out of office.

[@tonimarie8951]

Did the people decide that they needed this minister, so they appointed the office? Absolutely not! Who has the RIGHT?

[@MassiveCarbonFootprint]

A. Stop with the nanny state, patriarchal, dehumanizing comment warnings... B. Just when I thought my country - Canada - was the worst Australia says hold my beer.

[@smellbag]

At the moment we're on the podium for gold insanity with the Canadians a close silver. 😵‍💫

[@billthomas478]

Don't worry. Justin will love this idea

[@justinwilbur4094]

Patriarchal? Our Premier is a woman so how, exactly, are HER policies the fault of "patriarchy"?

[@MassiveCarbonFootprint]

@@justinwilbur4094 Not referring to your premier... Referring to needless warnings from KZbin

[@johncrow5552]

@@MassiveCarbonFootprint Still, how is that "Patriarchal"? It is females who cancel alternative views so YT c3nsorchip can be better called "matriarchal".

[@Jeremy-ho3vi]

"Stop watching Sports and Mow the Lawn or I'll call the Police".

[@robr.5044]

@SmokeyJoe_1Ha ha, I can just imagine police services and landscaping.

[@jonkuiper4703]

Man comes home from work,grabs a beer, turns the TV on and sits down just as his wife walks in and asks what he's doing, Innocently he replies "just having a beer before everything starts" Three beers in ,she storms back in "is this all you're going to do for the rest of the afternoon" Husband replies "And it's fucking started already"

[@justdan8281]

Women in politics, how's that working out?

[@smellbag]

At 51%, not working too well for non-females.😂

[@captainsden7363]

If your men aren’t storming the gates of authority over this speaks volumes.

[@AzzaTheAussie]

If she wants a better comparison of woman's domestic violence look at the d.v on straight relationships, gay relationships and lesbian relationships and she might be surprised.

[@justinwilbur4094]

70% of surveyed women in same sex relationships reported violence. Only 29% of gay men surveyed, reported violence. "Male Traditional Owners" commit murder at more than 12 times that of their "Male Colonisers" and "Female Traditional Owners" commit murder at 2.4 times..... Statistically speaking, there has never been a safer time to be a woman in Australia, especially a "cis" Caucasian one. Rates of violence have continued to come down for decades.... except in "certain communities". But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story (or a vote-grabbing tactic).

[@titanicjack6744]

It’s no accident that these figures are never brought up. Doesn’t suit the narrative

[@jamesl1806]

Very interesting. Can confirm.

[@rinzler9775]

Maybe she should look at muslim relationships

[@jasonlee8156]

@@rinzler9775 That might be another elephant in the room.

[@undefinedfreedom8580]

I am from Australia. Victorians think even Mao is far right. LOL.

[@paulcarfantan6688]

They are convinced he was a "Bourgeoie Capitalist", lol.

[@yewknight]

The language coming out of this is getting really close to Maoism.

[@user-Kova15]

Mao atleast wasn’t mentally ill and hated his own gender

[@ExSpoonman]

I'm an ardent socialist. This kind of thing sickens me. WTF is going on down there, Aussies? Actually, wait. The fact that this lady cites her first criticism of this change as, "What is a man?" (4:08) Tells me everything I need to know about how this kind of thing happens. People too worried about gender identity that you can't even address something as dangerous as Domestic Violence.... Bravo Australia.

[@stephengalea8]

As a male living in Victoria, what an embrassment for the State, for the Government. There has never been a safer era in history to live. There is no excuse to act violent against anyone. No mention of motivations for these acts of Violence. no mention of looking into family courts.

[@musiqueetmontagne]

I had to look twice, I thought it was a comedy sketch written by John Cleese! 🙈🙈🙈

[@kimsherlock8969]

You got it its a a mute point With much personal distortion 😊

[@jonathanparle8429]

Virtually everything this Victorian Labor Government has done over the last decade could indeed be made into a Monty Python style black comedy with no poetic licence or distortion of the truth required. I profoundly regret my move to Victoria 6 years ago (I way under-estimated the severity of the political situation here) and quite honestly the only thing still keeping me here is that I am not rich enough to leave Australia permanently altogether to live in Florida as a self funded retiree. The other states here in Australia are only a handful of years behind bonkers Victoria. You'll see - they will all have this position within 5 years!

[@Robochop-vz3qm]

" don't touch me I don't know where you've been "😂😂😂

[@trevor6513]

Lol so sounds like a Monty Pythom thing eh?

[@johnsimspon8893]

Men: stop committing acts of domestic violence. Even if you are not, then still stop it.

[@user-ok9ue8gp6k]

Australia used to have a reputation as rugged tough country. Australians used to have a reputation as self reliant people. What happened to that country?

[@fredperry523]

The sad state of Victoria !

[@jenniferpierno6108]

Victoria needs a Minister for Trying to Cheer People Up. Melbourne is a dismal place.

[@weekendwithbevoblog2171]

There's female charged with 3 murders and as many attempted murders in the courts ATM. I think we need a Minister for Women's Behaviour.

[@realfamilyman]

Women also raised every child. (The man is often pushed to the back of the room.) Which means a WOMAN raised every ABUSIVE MAN. So not only do we need a minister for women's behaviour, we need to take children away from women. Of course that won't happen - because Labor are left, and lefty men are more feminine than woman are.

[@mgreenesco9955]

Aww come on mate we all know when they do it its ok and for the right reasons! Lol

[@TeresavanLieshout]

Probably 3 men claiming to be women 🤡

[@TeresavanLieshout]

Probably 3 men pretending to be women 🤡 Plus men kill 75 women a year in Australia 🤮

[@user-yw8qf8cc3t]

Court? Thought female murderers got counseling

[@Madonnalitta1]

Ffs. What about a minister for mens mental health instead, or a minister for homelessness? A minister for men is great idea, a minister for mens behaviour (negative connotations) is not needed.

[@DFA79]

Where is the one for women? As I have been abused, SAed and violence from women.....

[@wozzie1492]

The clown show just keeps on rolling.