What If THE JEDI Found Palpatine Before Plagueis

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[@StevetheWizard2591]

Master Sheev: "Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Plageus the Wise?" Anakin: "Actually, I wrote my thesis on it."

[@casesater]

Oh god anakin don’t bring up dichotomies again you already killed a master by doing that

[@marcoespinosamx]

LOL

[@kabob0077]

​@@casesaterWhat about the dichotomy of the Force?

[@TheFilthyFinch]

@@casesater"I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!"

[@nobbyfirefly57]

Dooku just casually aged and deaged

[@noahvadertheberserkerpacki6604]

I literally put these on and eat, work out, walk, ect. Doesn't really bother me. Given the many repeated images, the stories are what are advertised and what we come for.

[@SidorovichGaming]

I mean, there are very few young pictures of him

[@Bibben]

i do the exact same thing noah

[@Skelstoolbox]

yeah, this doesnt work because in the novel, darth paguise, dooku is only 2 years younger than palpatine himself. how is dooku an adult and palpatine a teen boy?

[@SidorovichGaming]

@@Skelstoolbox Dooku is canonically 20 years older than Palps.

[@danieljessen8009]

Jedi Palpatine and young Anakin’s first encounter: “did you ever hear of the tragedy of Darth Plagiuos the Wise?” Anakin: “boy have I!? It’s front page news! Pretty wizard stuff.”

[@blindvision4703]

Sith Palpatine, linstening in from an alternate uforerse: "Wait, what?

[@dianesinger9729]

Oh now to be a fly on the wall for that conversation

[@kronosshadow1554]

A continuation of this story would be nice, just to see how the relationship between Good Guy Palpatine and Anakin would look like

[@EvilSourMan]

It would be even better if he trains Ani

[@u.v.s.5583]

- Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? - No. - I thought not. Dart Plagueis the Wise was a dark lord of Sith. He built a factory of droids and wanted to take over the galaxy and build a new Sith empire. - What happened to him? - Well, he thought I might join him because he sensed darkness in me. But I told him that he was the Sith lord and slew him. Ironic. He was the wisest and strongest Sith lord in existence, but now he is out of existence.

[@Aeros589]

Good , Anakin Good. Spare him. Spare him now. DEWIT

[@galagize9233]

😂😂😂

[@TheBrownBeacon-wt6oh]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jordanhall5446]

Im going to lose sleep over that young Palpatine picture.

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

Lolllll

[@danieljessen8009]

Wait so Alan Rickman is Sheev’s Dad? I love it

[@arieshellstormm9487]

The Greatest Respect

[@joachimbambury6376]

And timothee charlemet as young Sheev haha

[@DarthTerminus-wy3gp]

I thought that was great too! Great casting idea

[@marcoespinosamx]

@@DarthTerminus-wy3gp It would be great bringing back to life Alan Rickman wih AI and casting Timothée Chalamet as a young Palpatine

[@BigSteve9713]

What's crazy is this was possible, given Dooku was older then Sheev

[@Skelstoolbox]

no he wasn't, he was 2 years younger, in the darth plaguise novel. this doesnt work. dooku an adult and palpatine a teen boy?

[@danielk5780]

@@Skelstoolbox According to wookiepedia, Dooku was around 18 years older. That puts Dooku at age 28, when Sheev was 10. And at that time, Dooku was training Rael Averros, before ever taking on Qui Gon Jinn as a padawan.

[@Skelstoolbox]

@@danielk5780 fair enough..

[@mikecotto1167]

I think you forgot that it was mace Windu who created Vapaad, so palpatine couldn’t learn a form that did not yet exist.

[@gabrielpowers9135]

Well you could argue that windu taught it to dooku since he never left

[@georgecrofoot8021]

Vapaad has been around since exar kun before the Era of the high republic.

[@anomalyfox5186]

@@georgecrofoot8021No, Juyo has been there, but not Vapaad. Vapaad was a special variant of form VII Juyo which was created by Windu after fighting a beast of the same name.

[@Politebanana1]

Facts!

[@arcticfox3243]

You forget this is a what if so cannon changes to fit story.

[@KuDastardly]

Seeing young Palps with red hair makes me think he's a Harkonen, lol.

[@serballista]

LMFAO Did NOT expect to see a babyface Palpatine this afternoon

[@SensiofRabbitude]

Long time hated heel Palps with the unexpected run-in tp save the beloved babyface.

[@OmegaSteel429]

@@SensiofRabbitudeit’s all part of his push for the Inter Galactic Championship Belt

[@zerrierslizer1]

@@OmegaSteel429 mans doing curls without touching the weights lol.

[@aaron90omar]

It makes so much sense to have Alan Rickman (God rests his soul) casted as Cosinga Palpatine. Good one!

[@MC-ws7ez]

your not in my leag

[@Jon1xed]

I am a jedi master not yet its treason then

[@Fordo007]

What if Palpatine was open about being a Sith and said the Jedi were persecuting him for his religion?

[@fnafworks6228]

I doubt that work unless we're talking about late into the clone wars. Even with basicly everyone except yoda from back them dead, the sith were remembered as evil, and the ones who caused many wars. Palpatine revealing himself publicly would either immediatly get him killed (pre- to early clone wars) or make the sepratists, and later rebellion much stronger due to more people joining.

[@JayF2912]

​@@fnafworks6228 by the time of the prequels being a Sith isn't illegal, and most average citizens don't even know the difference between Jedi and Sith. He would be fine.

[@codename1176]

@@JayF2912issue he is still playing both sides and him admitting to being a with would get a massive investigation on him

[@CabbageSandwich]

"Don't worry, de-aged palpatine isn't real, he can't hurt you" This video existing:

[@ballisticautistic5398]

What if Savage Opress and ventress fell in love?

[@soularprimestudios5930]

Interesting

[@Iao74185]

They would have one ugly baby

[@mddojo]

Day 5: What if Jaesa Willsaam (light side) was in the Clone Wars? The idea is that shortly after Jaesa is recruited by the Sith Warrior, Darth Baras realizes the potential threat. He manages to capture her and freeze her in carbonite. After Darth Baras dies, Jaesa is never found and is eventually forgotten for the next 3000 years. Then, during the Battle of Christophsis, a tunnel to an ancient under city is discovered. Obi-Wan leads a squad of clones into the under city in order to gain a tactical advantage over the separatists. While here, the force leads him to a long forgotten prison. He finds Jaesa here and frees her. Shortly thereafter Jaesa rejoins the Jedi and becomes Obi-Wan's apprentice.

[@mickmufson1824]

I have a few ideas for What Ifs: What if Anakin/Vader returned to the light side after Palpatine told him that Padme had died? What if Anakin had visions of himself burning on Mustafar instead of Padme dying? What if Anakin killed both Count Dooku and Palpatine on the invisible hand? What If Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Darth Maul all died during their duel? What If Shmi was freed instead of Anakin? What If Anakin and Padme never went to Geonosis?

[@jokerman9295]

Anakin’s not about to kill both palpatine and dooku on the invisible hand 😂

[@mickmufson1824]

@@jokerman9295 It is just a what if.

[@ALEXANDERATTACK]

​@jokerman9295 it's literally a what if so you can make it happen 😅

[@jokerman9295]

Then it’s a dumb what if.

[@Kane-qf8dn]

The parallels between spying on plagiéis to anakin and palpatine is very cool

[@Aequitas_RJ]

Sheev Palpatine: "Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Plageus the Wise?" Anakin: "Aw, I love this story, Master Palpatine." Younglings: "Tell us the story again, Master Sheev!!" Sheev Palpatine: "Alright, if I must... When I was a young boy, I rescued a queen..."

[@LegatusLucius2]

Palpatine could have been the natural Chosen One but upon turning evil and helping Hugo manipulate the force ended up with the force creating an artificial chosen one Anakin to combat the imbalance

[@arieshellstormm9487]

Now that is an interesting idea

[@Jrrslingshot2]

So you’re also saying that palpatine must be the Sith Arie (however you spell it)

[@LegatusLucius2]

@@Jrrslingshot2 I'm saying he might have been the natural Jedi Chosen One if he was found by the Jedi

[@LegatusLucius2]

@@Jrrslingshot2 Anakin Skywalker's power Supernatural reaction to the unnatural spell trying to force the existence of life

[@ziephel-6780]

Makes a lot of sense.

[@DarthTerminus-wy3gp]

Another great story idea, it was refreshing seeing dooku training Palpatine and hego damask having the Anakin/ Palpatine relationship in the real story, the added bonus of Alan Rickman playing Palpatines father was perfect!

[@RFDN0]

Day 5: What if Anakin knew Palpatine was a sith in Attack of the Clones?

[@KyleJarixManalang]

*stars wars end credits start playing*

[@bustedsaint9442]

Really love these types of videos!

[@avatarenthusiast2289]

What if Jango Fett survived the Battle of Geonosis? What if Darth Maul was redeemed on Naboo? What if Lando never betrayed Han on Cloud City? What if Luke died on the second Death Star? What if Rex killed Ahsoka? What if Ahsoka killed Rex? What if Boba Fett joined the Rebellion? What if Kanan survived? What if Obi-Wan died on Utapau (either against Grievous or Order 66)? What if Han Solo never met Chewbacca? What if Darth Maul killed Kanan?

[@Politebanana1]

Wow

[@Adventure_Playz]

I like this one TSWG Nice work!!!

[@michaelrobertson4562]

Great work buddy!

[@danieljessen8009]

2:52 ginger Dune being Palps haha nice

[@ridbensdale]

I’d love to see a sequel to this. Well done sir!!

[@cameronfischer545]

Awesome video! I'm glad Palpatine didn't turn to the dark side since most other youtubers take that route. Keep up the great work, this was one of your best videos

[@resetplayz53]

I was expecting this to be the goofiest video ever (since it's april fools day) but this "What If" is reallyyy good

[@Polar_Blue]

ngl i love this one and kinda wanna see a part 2 to this idk how that would be done but overall i loved this one

[@Christian-zf5bc]

How interesting would it be if you continue the story with Anakin then training Skywalker in the light. How powerful could Palpatine become in the future as a Jedi Master, maybe even Grandmaster?

[@OmAlexander1111]

All of your Tories are great. This one... would be a great basis for a continuation. The story of Palpatine training Anakin. Keep up you great works bud!

[@leadingauctions8440]

When Palpatine did not turn to the dark side, it was an excellent unexpected twist.

[@matthewmann8969]

What if Maul, Savage, And Feral due to being part of Talzins actual bloodline were made the exceptions in that matriarical society to be the next up and comer bosses of Dathomir Maul especially being noted to have a high threshold in the force and magic then Tal herself yeah?

[@sib3155]

I can only understand the first 3 lines of this comment

[@chasetauscher9544]

@@sib3155The three brothers would become the next Clan Leaders which the Nightsisters would never accept

[@marcusisgod2592]

What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories. Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself. What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder. What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia. What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance. What if oppo rancis trained anakin. What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death. What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings. What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin. Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.

[@AngelsandWolves1]

I would LOVE to see a continuation of this!

[@johnpittsii7524]

What if Anakin looked after Bobba Fett after genosis

[@faiqamel4005]

Hearing palpatine had a rough childhood make sense why hes evil

[@rileygarraway87]

Love the story you are telling 😅

[@troyv8302]

I really enjoyed this one and I went into it thinking it might be same ending, different path type of thing. Thanks!

[@Only1199]

What if Anakin was born on Alderaan into the ancient Alderaanian noble family of House Panteer?

[@toreadum8ass]

1:32 Imagine thwarting an assassination attempt and the guards come at you like "MURDERER!"

[@rasmusjensen6962]

That just sounds like most Europe. You use violence, you pay the price.

[@thesinistersiblings705]

Skyrim anyone?

[@toreadum8ass]

@@thesinistersiblings705Was in the middle of watching an Elder Scrolls shitpost when I got this notification lmao

[@thesinistersiblings705]

@@toreadum8ass nice

[@tonysilva7458]

This is a great story. Thank you.

[@jgamer516]

bro u should make the walking dead what ifs that would be so fun and epic!

[@shadowwriter4538]

This was excellent.

[@Bensolo090]

Super entertaining broo

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Another genus what if and story! I loved Plapys saber colors though a line explaining why he had gold normally the Jedi temple gaurd color... Which I do believe fits perfectly as he loves demcrocy.

[@pacboy7673]

I coulda sworn that yellow was for sentinels

[@Makai_Reacts]

Damn man this was a masterpiece.

[@askjeevescosby2928]

This video was a surprise but a welcome one.

[@ninjago0o9]

thank you for changing the title of the video. now this title definitely could have happened

[@colethelin9203]

What an excellent Video Based on What if the Jedi found Palpatine before Plagueis. Can you please create a part2 to What if the Jedi found Palpatine before Plagueis? Thanks

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

This is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@y.n.tryone4683]

How can palpatine learn vapaad when the creator of vapaad had not created it yet

[@itsabug4274]

Question... How would Dooku know how to teach Vapaad? It's very strictly Mace Windu's form, and the few times he tried to teach it to an apprentice they fell to the Dark Side rather quickly. Why/how would/could Dooku convince Mace to teach to to a padawan that would be at a MUCH HIGHER risk of succumbing to it and falling? Not only that, but why would Dooku think that would be a good idea anyway? Vapaad requires one to have an iron will, being a conduit that channels the chaos and anger around them and redirecting it rather than using it to power themselves. If he were to try and learn Vapaad, it'd likely make him even more tempted to give into his darker emotions. I feel like Soresu or Makashi would've been a better option, as both demand patience and calm, something Palpatine would very clearly need at that stage.

[@Vet_Sniper21]

Dooku was already a master before training Qui Gon Jinn.

[@willwingardner6038]

Love this video, could lead into an epic part 2 what if Palpatine trained Anakin as a Jedi

[@dprescott1970]

That was great. You have to follow it up with Jedi Master Palpatine's training of Anakin 😊

[@Florb-yd2ox]

0:09 smooth palpatine scares me

[@kiryu7853]

Darth Plageus: Have you ever herd of tragedy of cancleror Valorum ? Palpatine: yes Darth Plageus: I thught so, holonet for two monts talks only abaut this.

[@ripgasbaron9716]

11:52 >"But now, as 35 years old, Palpatine..." >Shows this picture of Palpatine My man did just do a while generation dirty 😭💀

[@Memer-boiiiiiii]

Never ever show me again a slick young palpatine

[@Irongiantman007]

Oh yeah doodoo is older than palpy

[@paigeonr6383]

around 20 years. Dooku was born 109 BBY and Palpatine was born 82 BBY.

[@tallmanjude]

Fire. 🔥 If you were in charge of Disney Star Wars, it wouldn't be deceased.

[@majesticmsfc]

Great story it was very believable too. Nice to see Palpy have a bit of a redemption story.

[@danielharman572]

I enjoyed your latest video and would love to watch parts 2&3 should you decide to make them. Here's some ideas for your consideration. Palpatine training anakin skywalker and finding out that skywalker is potentially the chosen one. The crime syndicates Uniting together to threaten the outer rim. Potential for ex jedi to fall to the darkside. Rouge Dathomerian nightsisters, mandalorian terrorism and slavery in the outer rim. So many possibilities to continue the story with. I enjoy your videos and think you could do it professionally for a living. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.

[@keisufederationmapping2748]

oh my god smooth palpatine jumpscare

[@neger7717]

Omfg Professor Snape actually looks like he’d make the perfect father for Dooku. They’re so alike somehow wtf

[@davidbarry282]

An unexpected surprise, but a welcome one

[@Daseril]

23:33 "It's like poetry, they rhyme"

[@marcusisgod2592]

What if anakin was found by jedi belonging to another sect like corelia or those nomadic jedi who allow attachment. What if anakin went to dathomir in revenge of the sith to search for ways to save padme. What if yoda decided to swap the masters of ferus olin and anakin. So anakin with siri. Obi with ferus What if ahsoka and anakin crash landed on bendu's planet. Also what if darth vader joined thrawn in meeting the bendu and went on a spiritual journey back to the dust ball tatiotene.

[@arieshellstormm9487]

I like the idea of seeking guidance from Mother Talzin to save Padme, that is a storyline that would allow a new dark twist on it having Anakin indebted to Dathomir.

[@marcusisgod2592]

What if darth vader went to darthomir to learn. New suit or perhaps more unique powers. Resurrect talzin maybe. what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave. What if anakin fell in love with luminara unduli, serra keto or bultar swan. What if anakin was taught by agen kolar or sasee tin or adi gallia.

[@deinonychus1948]

2:14 That's what Qui-Gon should have said to the council regarding Anakin "Would you rather a Light-Side trained yet slightly unstable Jedi or an uncontrollable Dark-Side killing machine? Especially given the reemergence of the Sith"

[@BoyFromBelgium99]

*Yer a wizard, Sheev!*

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

A wonderful variant. :)

[@deemanzini5651]

Idk why im so used to palps just being evil i never even thought about it

[@noid984]

What if Cindel Towani was a Nightsister

I love the idea of Palpatine being the chosen one xD

[@yamatohime2035]

What if... Jedi were really wise!

[@DrownedInExile]

That was awesome. Political intrigue and the force. And the Jedi Order not being morons.

[@WolfTriggerMan]

I like this one

[@john98765333]

Dooku win! Interesting to see how Palpatine fell into the lineage of Yoda's training, It feels like this is a very natural progression of Dooku and Palpatine's relationship in the lightside, them striving to get things done, and with the will of the two of them, actually making good progress. Palpatine: "I've been trained in your political arts by Count Dooku!"

[@Urizen61]

Nice work. But, Vapaad was a light saber form invented by Mace Windu. Dooku would have no knowledge of it.

[@DiegoRooks]

Awesome

[@babecat2000]

Lol Palpatine turned into Anakin here.

[@Rolltidewhiskey]

He would've turned. The man is pure evil.

[@Python085]

Palpatine as a GOOD GUY? Neat!

[@wendywebbtraumawarrior2204]

Although I felt a couple of meh spots, I know I don’t have the talent to imagine/write ‘what if’ Star Wars stories. I enjoyed it over all and understand why you needed the ‘meh’ spots to finish the story.

[@rozze33]

was a good story. was nice to see palpatine in a new light

[@macmaasi79]

Funny that in the OG timeline Palpy was the master and Dooku the apprentice. Dooku is 18 years older than Sheev.

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

It’s kinda weird to think about Dooku actually being older than Palpatine, decades older even at that rather than Palpatine being older than Dooku even though Dooku was Palpatine’s apprentice in canon. Are there any other cases either in legends or in canon of apprentices being older than their masters? Loved this fanfic idea by the way, especially Palpatine and Dooku’s reversed roles.

[@mwg500]

I think Plagueis could've ended up with Talzin as his apprentice which would somehow still lead to Palpatine finding Maul (and training Maul in the light), or Dooku still turns Sith and Jedi Palpatine has to deal with that.

[@jameslightfoot1872]

I think Palpatine as a Jedi is a cool idea, but what if he became Darth Sideous anyway. Running his machinations as the dark lord of the Sith from right in the heart of the Jedi order.

[@howtogoogle8031]

but not kllling the jedi clone wars ca still happen and the jedi order can still get blamed but the difference ist hat no order 66 break their moral spirit worse than death

[@jameslightfoot1872]

@howtogoogle8031 what if he revealed to the Jedi that the clones were created to destroy them and proposed that the Jedi should kill the clones instead. Could he corrupt the whole order with such an act of betrayal? Getting the Jedi to launch a preemptive act of total genocide on their own troops would be such a gut punch.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@howtogoogle8031 Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like? ...Sorry, your comment is a bit hard to read without any punctuation or sentence structure.

[@ziephel-6780]

Maybe due to Dooku being his master, Sheev would have a similar vision for the Republic like Darth Tyrannus's, not just simply ruling for power's sake.

[@ryanames2442]

I always figured Palpatine was a bit older than Dooku

[@coppertopv365]

Mace Windu wouldve been a better type of teacher for a Padawan like Palpatine

[@vaderkeytheory5992]

It all comes full circle

[@dude25101]

Honestly, I think this is pretty realistic. Great job

[@PhilDrury]

Have we ever been given a phonetic for Sheev? It sounds so ridiculous that I wonder if it isn't supposed to be She-Ev.

[@themangomanjuice]

Nice story.