The older I get the more I appreciate Monica. I think the fladerisation worked a bit for her...they play up her control freak nature and that used to really annoy me...but she is so consistently kind and her control issues make sense when you realise how she lost weight to be treated like a human and her mother was awful to her. Anyway her kindness won out despite her being difficult to be around at times.
@HermanVonPetri6 ай бұрын
I think that's fair. Also, she seems to realize that her roommates need someone to provide some structure in their lives. OCD aside, she's really just being the adult in the room much of the time and making sure that all the things get done to keep a stable home until the others eventually gain some security themselves.
@umrahalam37446 ай бұрын
I liked monica too and her relationship with chandler but i later realised chandler deserved so much better… and i hated how chandler was treated by monica
@rosegirl32206 ай бұрын
She was right about leaving Barry
@trinaq6 ай бұрын
Agreed, that's one of the smartest decisions she made. Plus, she would have ended up a rich housewife who eventually got cheated on.
@lay-dee6 ай бұрын
@@trinaq or divorced, like her mom
@Some_guy_passing_by6 ай бұрын
@@trinaq she was already getting cheated on .
@palomavega64946 ай бұрын
As I grow older, moving to Paris with a baby and no friend or relative around when she probably doesn't even speak French sounds more and more like a nightmare than a dream. It's not like Rachel chose to become a stay at home mom in some Midwest town, she'll get a job in fashion again, be in the same country as her parents and friends, her daughter will grow up with her father and she'll be with the person she loves.
@RachelSpicyG6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. It seems a lot of people don’t understand that. 😑
@jenni4claire6 ай бұрын
Émigration is huge even when you are fluent in the language
@swatisaini64476 ай бұрын
If she doesn't speak french how sid she get a job in Paris
@palomavega64946 ай бұрын
@@swatisaini6447 Mark offered her the job.
@ЮлияЖизненко-н5л6 ай бұрын
@@swatisaini6447that's a plot of Emily in Paris
@lay-dee6 ай бұрын
Rachel didn't intend to announce her pregnancy at Monica's wedding. That's a bit misleading. Phoebe found the test, assumed it was Monica's, and Rachel still didn't say anything. When everyone found out and everyone assumed it was Monica's, she still didn't say anything. The only people who knew it was Rachel's baby was phoebe (who found the test) and Monica and that's because Rachel accidentally took a sip of champaign and had to spit it back out.
@trinaq6 ай бұрын
Seconded, Rachel didn't want to take the thunder away from Monica and Chandler's big day, but due to circumstances, ended up having to reveal it to Monica and Phoebe.
@daniellediaz25166 ай бұрын
Also, that happened only AFTER Monica talked her into taking the test stating "that could be my present"
@lay-dee6 ай бұрын
@Jay-xj5yt that has nothing to do with the point of the original comment, nobody said anything about if a sip will hurt the baby. Even if one sip wouldn't hurt, she's not wrong for spitting it out. Not drinking during pregnancy starts with not taking that first sip 🙄
@lay-dee6 ай бұрын
@Jay-xj5yt then why has nobody backed up or liked your comment in agreement? You made your point. Take your negativity elsewhere, thank you so much, bye Buzz Killington
@mastersnet186 ай бұрын
@Jay-xj5ytyou’re not supposed to drink while pregnant. Yea one sip may not hurt, but it also might so why take the chance? If anything happened to the baby she would blame herself for drinking.
@lisapetrison-beautyreviews6 ай бұрын
Just because we do not see Ross interacting with Ben in the moments that the screenwriters chose to include in the later episodes does not mean that Ross "forgot about Ben." I don't think there is any evidence of that at all in the show.
@alyzu47556 ай бұрын
Ross didn't forget about Ben, the creators and producers forgot about Ben. 😏
@GabrielaCenturionNeumann6 ай бұрын
Exactly! If he had, the interactions with Ben would have been so very awkward and distant. They always made sure to show us a loving father-son relationship wherever Ben was on the show. We don't see every detail of their lives
@daniellediaz25166 ай бұрын
There's also zero indication that he didn't forget about Ben either. But I do know for certain that Ben's name was only mentioned TWICE since the arrival of Emma
@lisapetrison-beautyreviews6 ай бұрын
Well, at minimum, he brought the photos of his two children with him to the Bahamas and talked about them with Charlie, without suggesting that there was any estrangement with either of them. And he always seemed to be depicted as a loving father with good relationships with both of his kids when we did see them together on screen, in my opinion. Maybe there were problems that the show didn't discuss, but that is more just conjecture from fan theory boards than anything that is actually stated in the show, i think.
@GMatiga16 ай бұрын
Ben was not forgotten. He was busy with his own career and so he was no longer included in Ross story line
@tritaoph6 ай бұрын
The worse thing she did was abandoning her big career chance for Ross.
@Duszka6 ай бұрын
Yup for a dude who always looked down on her as per his list about her.
@trinaq6 ай бұрын
Totally, Rachel honestly deserved better, and though she and Ross reconcile, there's no real indication that their relationship will stay stable, and won't end in another bitter fight.
@chimmypark16036 ай бұрын
I agree
@smacain6 ай бұрын
I strongly disagree. She balanced her career goals with the goal of having a loving family. I find it weird no one ever points out that it’s pretty selfish she was going to take Emma to Paris without any thought on how that impacts the relationship between father/daughter.
@Duszka6 ай бұрын
@@smacain Ross could have joined her there.
@unitedstatesofbecky6 ай бұрын
1.) Rachel did not graciously give up the date with JCVD, she was basically forced to, and even then she screwed Monica over with a lie. 2.) Rachel was absolutely wrong to go to Ross's wedding flr the reasons she did, but she didn’t derail it - Ross did that on his own.
@if33596 ай бұрын
Oh come on, Ross didn't forget Ben, the writers did. There was never an indication he wasn't a good father to Ben. He was involved, he knew what's going on between Ben and his classmates, for instance. And there was a deleted scene back when he was with Emily, when Emily wanted him to move to London so he tried to convince Carol and Susan to move there with Ben. He clearly cared about his children and was involved in their lives. Rachel was very wrong to just drop this on him, and like with Carol and Susan, the show did not call out this unfair devaluation of his place as the father of the child.
@lisapetrison-beautyreviews6 ай бұрын
I think it would be much better for Emma to be in a place with two parents as well as other relatives who love her than to be in Paris with just Rachel, struggling to figure out both a foreign language and a probably extremely stressful new job. And Rachel was doing well enough in her career that I have no doubt that she would continue to do really well in NYC. So the idea that Rachel was just giving up her dream so that she could be with Ross seems to me really misguided. Regardless of whether she and Ross stayed together as a couple, I still think she likely made the best choice, and I think that reason is why she made the choice. Which really, if true, would show a lot of maturity on her part, in my opinion.
@librasun3216 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Some_guy_passing_by6 ай бұрын
Her worst decision was going back to Ross , getting pregnant and leaving her dream job in Paris . Ross and Rachel bring out the worst in each other.
@starscreamthecruel80266 ай бұрын
He was obsessed with her. She was probably *his first love* and as a result that was never gonna go away. I have this problem in real life when a former friend confessed to one of my male friends, that I was his FIRST love and the one that GOT away and that he is determined to find a way back into my life, even though now I've had enough of his drama, his sexism, his blatent disrespect of his wife in front of me, causing her to hate me because she thinks i'm competition and his childish attitude that says, if you are the hostess, it's your job to clean up after the guys like you were his Mom. Er no, that not happening. I have blatently gone NO CONTACT and according to my other male friend, that simply translated as NOT READY TO TALK YET. Guys like this that become obsessed are never gonna quit unless you physically remove yourself from their lives and stay out.
@TheWolfeDen6 ай бұрын
It was so toxic but is hailed as one of the greatest TV romances.
@alyzu47556 ай бұрын
They were absolutely toxic together.
@becurly87846 ай бұрын
Pregnancy is not the worst decigion, she is probably over 30, established in her career and with money, it is a good time to have a child :)
@divyakumar4395 ай бұрын
No way. They are meant to be with each other and their ego kept them apart.
@blueyellowandgreen6 ай бұрын
Julie was so kind and fun, loved her presence
@alicedamiano77185 ай бұрын
Julie really was a flat character, they wrote her without giving her any depth 😕
@Trobtwillis5 ай бұрын
@@alicedamiano7718 But she was a paleontologist! 🙋♀️🦖🦕
@Trobtwillis5 ай бұрын
I hated the way Ross tossed Julie aside like a bag of trash. She didn't deserve that. Well... at least she met Russ on the rebound. I ❤ed that!
@alicedamiano77185 ай бұрын
@@Trobtwillis I totally forgot that... but also, was this element present beside being just mentioned? Anyway, my point was more about her personality. We don't see her personality beyond her being nice.
@Trobtwillis5 ай бұрын
@@alicedamiano7718 Sorry, I meant Russ. (Stupid autocorrect!) Paleontology means a lot to Ross. So it was a big deal that he & Julie had that in common. Nice means a lot to me. So it was a big deal that Ross kissed Rachel behind Julie's back and then dumped Julie like he did.
@trinaq6 ай бұрын
It always bugged me that Rachel was talked up as being brave enough to "Make it on her own", without her swanky rich lifestyle. While it's certainly admirable, her pals still had to bail her out whenever she messed up.
@MelissaMayhem996 ай бұрын
Same. Her whole arc revolved around becoming independent but she wouldn't have made it had she not been saved by Monica
@fcv46162 ай бұрын
But that’s part of the growth and the thesis of the show. Friendships are critical for your personal development. Everyone makes mistakes here and there, but your support system can help you grow and make the right choices in the future.
@amandaredd30576 ай бұрын
I still love the scene when Rachel and Ross see their first ultrasound but she cannot see the baby 😂❤
@liene46196 ай бұрын
I disagree about the end. She left Barry because she didn't love him or the life she would have if she had married him. In the end of the show, she put her relationship with Ross over the career opportunity, because that's the life she wanted. Her whole goal was to find and pursue a life she actually wanted.
@PamperedFurnishings25 күн бұрын
It's about choices. Ross didn't force her to stay, she agreed to it.
@MrayaRocks6 ай бұрын
The read about Ross forgetting about Ben 💀💀💀
@sunnysolaris236 ай бұрын
I found it so ironic that Janice gave Rachel this speech after Emmas birth about being on her own because Ross will find another partner, start a family with her and forget about Rachel and the baby and then we actually never see Ben anymore after Emmas birth. ☠️
@attitudeproblem64626 ай бұрын
I will never forget that he also came on to his cousin. *KNOWING* she was his cousin.🤮
@adhishagulati036 ай бұрын
@@sunnysolaris23 it wasn't like carol was a single mother... she and susan never treated ross like he deserved to be so if ross chose to forget ben and not the writers, he did nothing wrong bcz Ben still has a whole family!
@sunnysolaris236 ай бұрын
@@adhishagulati03 Are you serious? For the record, I totally think it was the writers who forgot Ben. But saying that Ben would be fine without Ross would only be valid if Ross had never been present in his life from the beginning. But Ben and Ross had a relationship and it's always painful for a child if one parent neglects and forgets them, even if the other parent provides them with a loving family. And what do you mean that Carol and Susan "never treated Ross the way he deserves"? What was Carol supposed to do, stay with him beside her feelings?
@NoahIsThaGOAT5 ай бұрын
@@sunnysolaris23I don’t even think the writers forgot Ben, the actor who played Ben was just unavailable due to other projects
@lilane2594 ай бұрын
You got a couple of things wrong but I really believe Rachel had one of the best character development arcs in this show
@Tasha93156 ай бұрын
I wish people would stop asserting Rachel was wrong to choosing love over her job in Paris. How do we know she genuinely didn't realize that she preferred a life with Ross over her Paris job? Why do we assume that "every" woman would be happier giving up love for a job? It's not like Rachel completely gave up her career either. She just gave a career in "Paris". She can still have a thriving fashion career in New York. So maybe she decided it was best of both worlds, staying in New York and that she wouldn't be happy in Paris away from Ross and her loved ones.
@swordfish13905 ай бұрын
I genuinely wish more people saw it this way, but so many seem to think that her decision is somehow “setting women back” and that it’s more “empowering” if she abandoned Ross and her friends and took Emma with her (and subsequently taking Ross’s daughter away from him) all so she can…. what, be a single mom in Paris, away from everyone she loves and not knowing the native language, all so she can have a shallow career?
@majjjic6 ай бұрын
Maturing is realizing Rachel was the Mean Girl, while Monica is the misunderstood.
@nidhiroses6 ай бұрын
Maybe In her high school days because she was rich but not later
@ndlad6 ай бұрын
i mean it was kind of directly said in the show that Rachel was the mean spoiled rich girl until she ran off of her wedding and tasted the real world, you didn't need maturing to realize this haha
@Mel-xk9go6 ай бұрын
@@nidhirosesWhen Tag wanted to date Phoebe she said that she was Lesbian. So yes she still a mean girl and don’t forget what she did to Julie
@stricken56905 ай бұрын
Maturing? How old were you when you watched this? Twelve?
@PokhrajRoy.6 ай бұрын
Honestly, the part about alternate realities where Rachel is an affluent suburban wife was quite telling.
@Liononmytoes6 ай бұрын
How is it Rachel's fault Ross said the wrong name? You said your self she said nothing. She's just a guest supporting him then. Not her fault she can't control the actions of others. Sure she probably got in his head by being there but if Emily was who truly wanted that wouldn't have mattered.
@manthony2256 ай бұрын
Just because the writers didn't include Ben very often doesn't mean Ross forgot him. But that was the best explanation for why Rachel didn't invite Monica to the wedding. That has always bothered me.
@daniellediaz25166 ай бұрын
After Rachel gave birth to Emma, Ross pretty much only said Ben's name twice ✌🏾 not to mention Ben never even met Emma
@djheannam77646 ай бұрын
The fact that the video says that Ross wouldn’t have cared about Emma since the show doesn’t show Ben at the end somehow means he’s a bad father when He clearly isn’t like what ? Ross had a lot of toxic traits but claiming he would’ve forgotten about Emma bc the writers forgot Ben existed is unfair to the character especially since the writers forgot about Emma in the final too meaning that according to the video Rachel would be a bad mom
@quieracollins51276 ай бұрын
Her and Ross had a lot more in common than the audience realized
@skrataflora3976 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day this channel actually criticize Rachel
@senister146 ай бұрын
Criticized but not for the right reasons.
@bcblossom5 ай бұрын
Sorry but she didn't steal Monica's thunder with her pregnancy and she didn't steal the baby name either. She TRIED to keep the pregnancy a secret and Phoebe and Monica just happened to figure it out and then got the truth out of her. And Monica gave her the name because she saw that it meant a lot to her. There was no stealing of anything. To that point... she really didn't steal Monica's thunder when she got engaged to Chandler either. Monica was completely over reacting to the situation. And as Monica myself I can confirm that over reacting is what we do!
@mcostagirl1236 ай бұрын
It always bothered me how Rachel helped break up Ross and Emily, but the series framed it as if Emily was the unreasonable one for not wanting them to be friends anymore.
@bLaCkRoSs36 ай бұрын
Rachel didn't help break up Ross and Emily, she did absolutely nothing. It was only Ross who messed up. Emily wasn't unreasonable. Ross was just dumb.
@sohamabrahmachari61556 ай бұрын
rachel and emily didn't do one shit. its all on ross. he messed up and it surprises me how ppl dont realize it when even in the show they kept highlighting it
@mcostagirl1236 ай бұрын
@@sohamabrahmachari6155 Ross did mess up, but Rachel was showing interest in him knowing he was engaged.
@bLaCkRoSs36 ай бұрын
@@mcostagirl123 She didn't show interest in him though, she did nothing until after the whole thing blew up because she believed him saying her name meant something, besides tbh the most beautiful woman in the world can throw herself at you, if you bite it's on you 100%
@bLaCkRoSs36 ай бұрын
@@sohamabrahmachari6155 I'll be honest, people blaming Rachel for that just shows how ingrained mysogyny is in everyone's minds, as blaming Rachel for what Ross did, is only helping the man. Ross is 100% at fault, even if Rachel had declared her undying love for him in front of everyone, his actions are his own.
@nikki91256 ай бұрын
To be fair, lots of women forget to turn off curling irons & straighteners, that’s why many shut off automatically. Also Rachel didn’t announce her pregnancy on Monica’s wedding day, Phoebe found the test & assumed it was Monica who was pregnant. Once the truth came out Monica forced Rachel to take another pregnancy test as a “wedding gift”. She didn’t steal Monica’s baby name, Monica gave her permission to use it.
@MayaLarsen-y3r6 ай бұрын
She evolved into a happier and more emotinally intelligent person.
@trinaq6 ай бұрын
If the finale aired nowadays, Rachel likely would have stayed on the plane, and chosen herself and her own happiness over Ross' toxicity. Maybe she could have met someone else in Paris who made her happier.
@escabasket1536 ай бұрын
Yeah. Choosing Ross was such an incel fantasy. Ross was so wrong for her.
@starscreamthecruel80266 ай бұрын
@@escabasket153 Caved to the fans demands so I heard.
@stevemyopinion4236 ай бұрын
Ross take.her to court and get custody of his daughter. So she loses everything.
@lsilvaeditor6 ай бұрын
Today? I was in high school when the finale aired and even then I thought "um...well it's great that they're back together, but she can STILL go to Paris and connect with Ross later. It's not like she'll be gone forever. Or Ross could have gotten on the plane."
@stevemyopinion4236 ай бұрын
Ross has a young son. Snd she was leaving for a job. Sorry but it wrong to take a kid from a parent. I mean if Ross got a job in china. Could he take his daughter to live with him. And Rachel stay in New York
@kelleninouye48156 ай бұрын
am I the only one who notices at 2:07 when Phoebe is giving Rachel a stern look in the pilot when Rachel and Monica meet again at Central Perk?
@rtothec12346 ай бұрын
I appreciate _The Take_ balancing their previous episodes trashing Ross as a character with one trashing Rachel.
@GabrielaCenturionNeumann6 ай бұрын
Half trashing, tbh. The bias is showing through and through
@giizodamulla74926 ай бұрын
This wasnt even trashing.They were showing her character growth.Ross on the other hand they truly hate
@bloojkl45206 ай бұрын
I usually agree with your videos but not this time. The title makes it seem like these are Rachel’s life philosophies or rules to live by, when in fact most of what’s mentioned here are things she did that she KNEW were wrong and eventually recognized as such.
@unicornL6 ай бұрын
I heard that Ross calling Emily Rachel was a mistake on David Schwimmer....and the wroters pivoted accordingly because it was better than their script
@dionneking85 ай бұрын
This happened on one life to live when tina was to marry max she said I tina take the cord. ... side note 🗒 many friends characters names were from all my children characters
@morganf19686 ай бұрын
4:30 Monica gave Rachel her baby name she did not steal it🤨
@betsady40765 ай бұрын
Gave it unwillingly because Rachel was throwing a tantrum.
@oxymoronman6 ай бұрын
If the show ever comes back for a movie or a special, i fully expect to have it start with ross and rachel having been divorced for years but still comedically hooking up. Honestly, until one of them gives up the friend group, theyre always going to be trapped in a cycle with each other. Hell is other people and neither is going to be able to grow past each other.
@jelatinosa6 ай бұрын
But, Chandler is gone...😢
@mesovogue6 ай бұрын
She does not STEAL that van Damme guy from Monica! The guy was interested in Rachel, not Monica. Game over
@kagehina49306 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you FINALLY made a video calling Rachel out
@PokhrajRoy.6 ай бұрын
She should’ve been far away from an icon like Bonnie with the shaved head.
@alg112976 ай бұрын
The original theme of the show was Rachel learning the ways of the world from the others. You really can't analyze tv sitcoms since the writers and the ideas just switch on a dime.
@vincentcerasoli59695 ай бұрын
Woah I just realized Ross totally forgot about Ben haha.
@basstian5 ай бұрын
Great analysis. I loved it!
@ThanksHermione6 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you're acknowledging that Ross wasn't the only one in the relationship who behaved badly.
@ridhijain85815 ай бұрын
She never meant to steal monica's thnder. You are making it look as if she was horrible but she wasn't . She was impulsive but she still valued friendship. She didn't do anything at ross's wedding and she was invited anyway. It's ross problem if he changed his mind not rachel
@Trobtwillis5 ай бұрын
Rachel might have upset some people in high school, but does anyone remember how her disgruntled school mates got her back? There was a widely circulated rumor that Rachel was a convincing crossdresser (like Chandler's dad).
@misschanandlerbong7534 ай бұрын
The rumor was actually that she was intersex
@tyxeri486 ай бұрын
I came for the comments! It's just a character people, wake up! (I adore this character!)
@pamelalagree-kanotz68456 ай бұрын
Rachel 😊 or Ross 😢
@Stand-g3i6 ай бұрын
Right, a character meant to get laughs.
@radhiadeedou82866 ай бұрын
She did not annouce her pregnancy at the wedding
@mauriciogianguzzo60866 ай бұрын
Finally!!! Someone had to say it.
@allayahsimmons90196 ай бұрын
I like Rachel but there are sometimes where I can't stand her
@reyfan0116 ай бұрын
I know rachel has done a lot of random stupid stuff, but 1 thing that I think was one of the silliest was her dating Paolo. They didn’t speak the same language but she was all over him because he was hot. I’m surprised he was her boyfriend for more than 1 episode, since this relationship seemed purely for sexual tension and thrills. But she gushed about him like he was the greatest. This was probably her most shallow relationship. Or a tie with dating Tag. When she found out he came onto phoebe I enjoyed that realization she came to that she was dating a total sleaze she knew nothing about. He was more like fulfilling a woman’s fantasy of dating a handsome foreign man. Not even mentioning the poor ethical choice of sleeping with her ex fiancé engaged to her friend, or purposely going to sabotage a wedding between her ex and his fiance. Basically when it comes to her love life, she made some questionable choices
@Stevensdeoxys6 ай бұрын
God I love this channel
@PokhrajRoy.6 ай бұрын
She was just less worse than Amy and Jill lol
@symmetrykidkun85 ай бұрын
I was so mad that the writers got her back with Ross at the end.
@vgcq026 ай бұрын
I wish you would have covered the scene where Rachel tried to sleep with Ross while her father was in the hospital. Should Ross have slept with her or did Ross do the right thing?
@doghome10786 ай бұрын
That's the worst thing Rachel did. Ross did the right thing even if Rachel wanted to be taken advantage of.
@keleziz765 ай бұрын
Ross did the right thing. He was very considerate when it came to her.
@marabookstagram6 ай бұрын
I hated how she stole Monica's baby name!
@KattSyllek5 ай бұрын
Of course she was. She's the worst friend of them all. Well actually... She shares the first place with Ross. They deserve eachother lol
@AM-rl6mq6 ай бұрын
It did always bug me how Emma was not talked about when she wanted to move to Paris with her. She didn't think about how ick it was to move her daughter that far away from the father Ross. But Ross never brought up that either to me, that he would miss Emma. That all was so weird to me.
@bartmann816 ай бұрын
Ross didn't forget about Ben. The writers of the show did. Or at least decided to give up on that plot-line.
@ThanksHermione6 ай бұрын
That's true. They could've at least had him mention Ben more and show him talking on the phone without showing or recording the other actor.
@ConnorSid-mg3xt6 ай бұрын
It was always so sad watching Rachel destroy Ross's relationships when him and his partners seemed very happy together. (Julie, Bonnie, Emily, Katie) When he would chose her over the other girls he would never let him have her for silly reasons like the list and the letter. She would always leave Ross with nothing every time. You deserved better my dear science boy. Though that is oddly what makes it romantic. Neither one of them could stand the thought of them with someone else and they always found a way back to each other. Ross and Rachel are soulmates. I'm so glad they finally agreed to stay together and raise their daughter at the end of the show.
@tomalexander43276 ай бұрын
But not about her hair
@dhanashreegadhikar82816 ай бұрын
You said a lot of nothing😅
@icohen16276 ай бұрын
I don't care what anyone else says but Rachel will forever be a selfish, narcissistic person
@TomWDW15 ай бұрын
Rachel sabotaging Ross and Bonnie was a shitty move. But can we all talk about how Ross dumped Bonnie, an overall nice, sweet, fun woman because she ... got a haircut he didn't like??!
@rajunaidu77516 ай бұрын
I always saw Rachel as the ‘damsel in distress’ character that could only be saved by the other people around her 😱
@SquagelZ2 ай бұрын
Remember when Rachel dumped Ross after he was SA’d by a sober woman while he was blackout drunk?
@afternoon_delight6 ай бұрын
please please do Pam from the office as the quintessential Plain Jane character who slowly but surely turns into a karen when the people around her, especially men stop seeing the appeal of the plain jane and she doesn't get what she wants anymore. so she bullies jim into staying with her, tries to get people fired for jokes, blames jim for her parents divorce, etc and gets her perfect happy ending even though she did nothing to deserve it. i feel like the young plain jane to older karen pipeline is such an interesting dynamic
@MelissaMayhem996 ай бұрын
I agree with this! Im a huge Office fan and while she's mostly good, there were bits of her that I didn't love
@jelatinosa6 ай бұрын
She didn't get a perfect happy ending, wtf
@afternoon_delight6 ай бұрын
@@jelatinosa well, let's see. At the end of the show, she moves to a bigger town where her husband has a successful business and will make a lot of money, she has the family she always wanted with him, she receives offers for art projects even though she has no qualifications whatsoever (she couldn't even finish a 3 month training program) and she can finally quit her job at DM and not work anymore. I would say that this is quite the perfect ending for a character that didn't do anything to get it
@jelatinosa6 ай бұрын
@@afternoon_delight I guess if you mean superficially perfect. But it was strongly implied that she was unhappy and doubting her life choices. A comfortable life is nice, it helps a lot, many people sacrifice their sense of self for that kind of life, but it's not necessarily "perfect".
@RisingFell6 ай бұрын
Joey and Rachel should have been endgame, what she had with Ross was toxic and so so wrong. They had nothing in common, he was mentally emotionally and almost physically abusive to her throughout the entire show. The fact that she ended up pregnant with his child after all he did to her, sleeping with a girl he fantasised about WHILE IN BED WITH RACHEL HOURS after their fight/break and has the balls to yell at Rachel "Now are you going to fight for us?" Like sorry but didn't you sleep with someone you fantasised about a few hours ago? Why should she fight for someone who is capable of doing that? The amount of times he tries to physically hurt her during the show is scary too, Joey has stepped infront of Rachel so many times when Ross has gone to physically hurt her when he gets angry, its not just once or twice it happens a lot during the show. Joey truly loved Rachel and could never hurt her and would never hurt her, they got along so well and frankly he supported her and loved her for her unlike Ross who had a whole list of reasons to not date her and he undermined her job over and over again when Rachel would go above and beyond for Ross and his job. Ross couldn't get through 45 mins of a fashion lecture but took Rachel to a freezing auditorium for a lecture that lasted hours and hours and she didn't fall asleep or complain once. He even took her there several times when work called him in and had to ruin their date plans to go fix something at work. She didn't complain about that once. You try telling him "its just a job" and see how much hell he would give you for saying that about his work. Plus Joey would have followed Rachel to Paris, this incredible once in a lifetime job offer that Ross happily ruins...also notice how not ONCE does Ross talk about Emma. He never says anything about Emma being taken away to Paris no no...just Rachel. And the fact she calls Ross her best friend? Like sorry but he is a horrible friend a shitty partner and an abusive selfish narcissistic man child who ruined everyones lives and every relationship he was ever in. Frankly Carol made a lucky escape meeting Susan who is amazing and better than Ross in every way. He is a bully to Monica and was beyond awful to her growing up, he was a shitty friend over and over again, he betrayed Chandler so many times its stupid, he looks down on everyone around him and acts like he is better than all of them and smarter than them. He is a truly horrible awful person who does so many unforgivable things it is so unrealistic that people would stay in his life after all he does. Everyone can't stand him! They all hate living with him because he controls everything and is a total selfish asshole, he is a terrible friend, he goes out of his way to ruin so many things and nothing good comes from knowing him. Ross and Ted Mosby are the "nice guys" who go out of their way to try to convince the world that they are nice innocent guys who do nothing wrong and deserve love, yet in reality they are cheating selfish narcissistic manchildren who are awful people and end up with someone who was clearly more suited to their friend! Joey and Rachel, Robin and Barney. They should have been endgame they were so well matched and suited for each other but nooooooo lets ruin those relationships just for this stupid story that doesn't make sense
@nessnness6 ай бұрын
Wohohohoho, you are blaming her for a lot of stuff that wasnt' her fault here. She did not throw the wedding off the rails. Stupid Ross forgot his fiancés name. He's just an idiot.
@nope-p5x6 ай бұрын
she also didn’t intentionally announce her pregnancy at Monica’s wedding. obviously they really needed to find some arguments for this video
@EvanRybak6 ай бұрын
I like Rachel overall, but I hated when she refused to help Chandler when her boss essentially kidnapped him
@stanleyconnor68986 ай бұрын
Is it normal that I obviously hate Rachel for her irresponsible behavior? 😅
@nemesisdelaudela19 сағат бұрын
Rachel was not a cool girl. She was the ultimate Pick Me.
@fuerteirena5 ай бұрын
I’m not saying Rachel is such a terrible person. She’s got her flaws but she’s alright. But I can’t stop thinking how much worse I must be when not a single man in my whole life ever even wanted to ask me on a date……. I wish I were Rachel….. or Monica. Or Phoebe……
@spandanav226 ай бұрын
Who wrote this? Rachel is not entirely likeable, but some of these takes are so ridiculous. Rachel didn't announce at Monica's wedding that she was pregnant. She never drew attention to herself while the pregnancy news spread out of hand. Notice how hurt Monica was when Rachel had a moment with Ross the day she got engaged, but never complains about the pregnancy news at the wedding. Monica grew up too. The day was hers and as long as the girls discussed in private, nobody stole her thunder. In fact Monica considered Rachel taking the pregnancy test her wedding present. About Emma's name, Rachel's instinctively loved it. But used it only with Monica's blessing. Which Monica was more than happy to give to Rachel. Ross never cared for Ben, so Rachel thought it would be OK to take their daughter to a different continent without at least discussing with him??? What an asinine take! Both premise and conclusion.
@cloudslady34005 ай бұрын
She was right not to go through abortion !…keeping her lovely girl ❤
@WhelmedButReady6 ай бұрын
I don't think her choosing Ross was that bad. One of the big things communicated in the show was that she's talented enough to keep excelling in her profession with relative ease. I'm sure she did great things while still living in NY
@escabasket1536 ай бұрын
Ross was a toxic, condescending asshole. I hope she ended up divorcing his ass.
@incognitouser82566 ай бұрын
Finally a video to show how selfish Rachel is unlike people who continue to believe her as the naive ingenue
@alirehman48586 ай бұрын
Come on most of “Rachel stealing Monica’s thunder” were just accidental and bad timing events. The collective hate for Ross and Rachel and extreme babying and coddling of Monica and Chandler is too much!! Monica and Chandler were bullies! Just because they were nice towards eachothers doesn’t mean they were nice with everyone. Chandler was horrible to Janice and sarcastic comments were only funny as long as they weren’t directed at you. Monica was so bad to live with that Pheobe moved out just to save their friendship.
@mooncat135 ай бұрын
I always never liked Rachel ever since I watched Friends for the first time. She's my lesst favorite chsracter.
@dr.braxygilkeycruises14606 ай бұрын
Ross and Rachel are the only two throughout the entire run of Friends that I never liked as a character. I adore the actors who portray them, but as characters, both Ross and Rachel are terrible people. Monica was the BEST, closely followed by Chandler.
@kaoryakasaka68356 ай бұрын
The reason I hate Rachel's ending is because she seemingly only thought about wanting to get off the plane after Ross told her he wanted her to. If they cut the scene of Ross saying "please stay, I'm so in love with you", had Ross be late for her boarding and had Rachel go after Ross without the intervention, it would've been obvious that that's what she wants and what makes her happy. Or even better: have Ross go after Rachel to Paris, because his love for her is stronger than his desire to stay in New York - unlike with Emily, who he was not willing to make that change for, as his romance with her was too hasty.
@NemesiaVicuna6 ай бұрын
I like that she ends up with Ross BUT I wish he had been the one who made the sacrifice to leave his job and move to Paris for Rachel. Major character growth for him and them as a couple.
@pdzombie19066 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! Finally... People always think Rachel left her dream job for Ross, but she kind of owed him after messing with his love life (Ross had jeoulosy issues, but that's normal after what happened in his first marriage). Rachel only wanted Ross when he wasn't available, inadvertedly ruined his wedding and made him take a vow of chastity while she was pregnant. And, by the way, it was obvious they were on a break!!! Even House knew it!!!
@rtothec12346 ай бұрын
House MD doesn’t misunderstand much of anything.
@Some_guy_passing_by6 ай бұрын
Rachel doesn't owe Ross her job because he chose to make bad decisions over and over again.
@lisette7736 ай бұрын
rachel doesn’t OWE ross anything are you crazy? 😭 and the whole issue with the “break” is that he thought they broke up and immediately went to sleep with someone he was definitely in the wrong because that means he truly didn’t love her.
@JordanKerr25or76 ай бұрын
@@lisette773he was sad, drunk and emotionally vulnerable Chloé took advantage of him, if he didn’t love Rachel then why did he literally sacrifice his pride and begged her on his knees to not break up with him?
@lisette7736 ай бұрын
@@JordanKerr25or7 they ended up in his place tho? which means he had to invite her back. He most definitely could’ve stopped it before they got back to his place. Because he got caught? did you not see he literally went everywhere to make sure she didn’t find out. So again if he loved her he wouldn’t have done it or try to HIDE it from her.
@rajunaidu77516 ай бұрын
“What about if we’re both single at 30 we get married while I date Brad Pitt in my prime” - Jennifer Aniston 😱
@samf.s.77316 ай бұрын
Welp, both of Brad's wives could have done better IMHO, sorry Brad.
@Some_guy_passing_by6 ай бұрын
David had his own gf and wife omg in his prime .
@JordanKerr25or76 ай бұрын
Actually she dated Brad Pitt at the end of her prime, in her prime she dated the actor who played Joshua. He was the lucky one who dated Jennifer Aniston when she was the most beautiful (in my opinion season 2, 3 ish)
@suzblastblackstones9015 ай бұрын
Well she could have been nice to her boyfriend when he came to her office. Plus it was weird to see again and again that whenever ross gets someone she just wants to be with ross but when ross breaks up with someone. She leaves ross.
@josedarocha29496 ай бұрын
Honestly, i think she could be very happy with mark, and that's why ross was so triggered by him...
@gojiramonster23886 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ, did David Schwimmer write this script??
@samf.s.77316 ай бұрын
LOL
@alyzu47556 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@phuongbui54965 ай бұрын
take precedence over st: my children's safety takes precedence over anything else take precedence in my life
@ElvisRose_6 ай бұрын
Ross and Rachel are the Carrie and Mr. Big of Friends. It's not that I wanted them to end up together but more that they treat good, decent partners so horribly that they deserve each to be stuck together in their toxic cycle conflating a fear of doing the hard work in an actual adult relationship with their misconception of destiny.
@Sandrilyonaify6 ай бұрын
I feel like it would've been best for her to actually go to Paris and finally get over Ross.
@TheWolfeDen6 ай бұрын
FINALLY
@r.d.4936 ай бұрын
I stopped watching Friends after Monica and Chandler got married. By that time, it seemed like the show just wasn’t cool anymore and I was too young to appreciate it anymore. However, I’m convinced that this show would never have worked without Monica. It was Monica’s apartment Rachel moved into. It was her close proximity to Chandler and Joey that made them want to hang out with her and Rachel because they were hot. It was only because Ross was Monica’s brother that her loser neighbors would ever give the time of day to. And it was Phoebe’s ditziness that balanced Monica’s whining and Rachel’s selfishness. I never knew the extent of the latter until I saw this video.
@windums5605 ай бұрын
Is this real human voice
@TrulyMademoizelle6 ай бұрын
I'm like, when is this channel going to get into Rachel's toxic ways? It wasn't just Ross.
@delayedgratification5816 ай бұрын
Rachel and Ross was toxic af
@theredqveen6 ай бұрын
i will never understand why Ross didn't go to Paris with Rachel like???
@klarabarunovic98416 ай бұрын
Because he had a son, in NY, named Ben
@morganf19686 ай бұрын
Same, I was totally cool with them being endgame but it should’ve been Ross getting on the plane and moving to Paris with Rachel
@daniamar896 ай бұрын
Rachel didnt treat people bad in high school they were just mad she wasnt their friend , they hated the cool popular girl because they couldnt be her friends
@anasaavedra56006 ай бұрын
Rachel did not steal Monica’s Thunder Monica was the one who draw attention to Rachel in the first place and how dare you shamed her for being pregnant during Chandler and Monica’s wedding
@Chocks075 ай бұрын
Rachel asking Ross to leave Mona was the biggest selfish thing to do ever. Ross and Mona could’ve been end game
@bigsistahtips6 ай бұрын
I think both characters were written poorly. Is like they gave a chance to Chandler and Monica but completely disregarded the particular qualities of each character with Ross and Rachel. Analysing them makes no sense as they don’t maintain a particular personality because every season they’re different.
@ameerhendricks74865 ай бұрын
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@mysticgirlАй бұрын
Ross and Rachel were so toxic for each other. Ross was possessive, controlling and jealous, and Rachel only wanted him when he wasn't available, sabotaging several of his relationships (Julie, Bonnie, Emily, Mona). To me it would've made more sense to keep Ross with Charlie at the end, and not let him interfere with Rachel's big career move.