"we partnered with.... Boeing for the design of our [submarine] hull." In light of recent events, this is an even more damning statement
@Proudgerbil64Ай бұрын
Literally thought the same thing!
@kiwibanana7590Ай бұрын
HELP I didn't even think abt that 😭
@GizziiusaАй бұрын
Aged well, eh ?!
@dankerbell23 күн бұрын
and his glazing of elon, well two peas in a pod, hoping elon deigns to try out one of his own vehicles soon
@Rugelacharugula21 күн бұрын
@@starsixseven9259 that statement aged like, well, a Boeing.
@wallium6681Ай бұрын
Promotional video for the company : "safety, safe, safetied, safetiing, safted" The dude who runs the company : "fuck safety"
@geografiainfinituluiАй бұрын
22:30 That slipped "but" speaks volumes now!!!
@jannesfriedrichs1563Ай бұрын
@@geografiainfinitului good ear
@wallium6681Ай бұрын
@@geografiainfinitului Indeed, good ear
@tom_demarcoАй бұрын
@@geografiainfinitului no it doesn't
@alexlu43612 ай бұрын
"Submarines are statistically very safe" - Probably because of all those safety standards.... the ones he ignored.
@DevinBauer2 ай бұрын
A year later it is still mind boggling that they got as far as they did with fundamentally flawed decisions and logic. Carbon fiber as a material choice is the equivalent of a chocolate castle in a desert
@2013Arcturus2 ай бұрын
My same exact though 😂
@chuckh40772 ай бұрын
We've seen all the submarine movies . You don't go below the crush depth. The guage will label it red.
@aircraftcarrierwo-class2 ай бұрын
"Submarines are statistically very safe" - Said by a man who has no idea how many submariners have died in the past century.
@no_peace2 ай бұрын
"He's very intelligent"
@concept563120 күн бұрын
Calling himself the "Elon Musk of the ocean" sure aged wonderfully.
@sethdrake75512 ай бұрын
"youre remembered for the rules you break" oh boy was he ever
@82Catfish2 ай бұрын
definitely wasnt wrong
@NastyAngel2 ай бұрын
@@82Catfish indeed
@GplusGains2 ай бұрын
Did it occur to you that's exactly what he wanted?
@SimonLloydGuitar2 ай бұрын
there's a difference in breaking the rules of how stripes can flatter the female body and breaking the laws of physics and material science.
@jerometruitt27312 ай бұрын
Man has the worst and most accurate quoteables in history
@Rugelacharugula3 ай бұрын
“It’s very engineered & very safe…” _…but if anybody asks, you’re not a passenger. You’re a _*_crew member.”_* 🚩 🚩 🚩
@koriw17012 ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@meatsackulationscongratula31542 ай бұрын
the design is very human
@firstNamelastName-ho6lv2 ай бұрын
A crewmate? ඞ
@Ryarios2 ай бұрын
And here’s a waiver telling you that you will die and your family can’t sue us. Which, btw, probably won’t help them in court.
@Ryarios2 ай бұрын
@@firstNamelastName-ho6lvyes. It was always classified as an experimental sub. Experimental vessels cannot carry passengers.
@maciejsimm2342Ай бұрын
i liked the bit where "the sun will extinguish" as basis for establishing under-ocean bases. Bruh, when the Sun does its thing, there won't be any oceans left :D
@a.m.9474Ай бұрын
Ya. He was lauded as a golden boy his whole life so no one challenged anything he said, that’s how he got away with stating his bizarre take on physics/astrophysics .. and submarines
@onohkar4348Ай бұрын
@@a.m.9474 That level of enabled incompetence is one of those man-made horrors that I cannot comprehend ☠
@alenor210Ай бұрын
Right? Like the sun isn’t just gonna turn off, it’ll expand into a red giant and engulf the entire planet
@nexaentertainment2764Ай бұрын
Whether or not there will even be any Earth left after the sun swells up is up for debate.
@maciejsimm2342Ай бұрын
@@nexaentertainment2764and for anyone who cares - as a hobby chemist/potter, I suspect the end game will be a ... big, glazed pot. Green/brown, semi transparent on the edges, and very sharp. Kind of like how they described Mandalore on that show except more dark. Here's some numbers. We are 92M miles away, from the sun, which could become around 100M miles in diameter when it becomes a red giant. bit of a margin of error, but let's assume it will be 92 ish, ie the surface of the red giant will be very close to earth's orbit. the red giants we know about, range between 4500-8500F at surface temp. Let's assume our sun will be the lower range of that. The Earth has some pure molten metals in the center, but outside, its full of refractory oxides - alumina, silica, and trace metal oxides. The boiling point temperature for all of those is quite high, around 4000-6000F. If we stay below that temperature, we will essentially have a very long (millions of years) kiln firing of the entire planet, the ingredients of which .. add up to terracotta clay. When you fire clay "as intended" it is fully opaque, but when you overfire it, it turns into a glassy obsidian substance (you can do this with an acetylene torch around 6000F). If the clay doesn't have too much alumina and iron, it will be transparent, but the iron gives it a green hue (thanks to boron), blue (thanks to titanium and phosphorus) or just brown (oxygen.)
@dankenstein946211 күн бұрын
How i sleep when a billionare dies: 😴😴😴😴
@Tom-tk3du2 ай бұрын
Stockton was better suited to be a politician than an engineer. He totally believed his own BS.
@svr54232 ай бұрын
his career took a deep dive
@Tom-tk3du2 ай бұрын
@@svr5423 He couldn’t handle the pressure.
@danielb62812 ай бұрын
He has suffered a crushing defeat.
@Haven_city_civilian2 ай бұрын
We don't want anymore politics like this. I think he should be at home playing videogames.
@mr.rabbit56422 ай бұрын
Too bad the vessel design was kinda *Rushed*
@prjndigo2 ай бұрын
when you're in something made of carbon fiber and you keep hearing popping noises... it isn't a mouse cracking its knuckles.
@alexturnbackthearmy19072 ай бұрын
Audio damage control system be like: (if you hear strong cracks it is severely damaged and is about to sink, quite simple!)
@RealBradMiller2 ай бұрын
Warning: maximum depth reached. Hull damage imminent.
@SuB-mt6nv2 ай бұрын
its the grim reaper instead
@dapinoygeek20002 ай бұрын
That acoustic monitoring system was the most absurd safety feature they have. The moment even a single fibre broke, it means the strenght has been execeeded and shell is done for. On its max depth where it really matters, there is no way back from that single failing strand.
@Darkness-ie2yl2 ай бұрын
I bet the real story is they met a torpedo
@jackalopewright53432 ай бұрын
Stockton died doing what he loved: cutting corners and ignoring the lessons learned by decades of engineers and explorers.
@timhowell6929Ай бұрын
Very well said sir, I completely agree!
@fortressgothikaАй бұрын
Mashed.
@m.m.1933Ай бұрын
Too bad he brought others on his darwin award adventure
@0161GHMАй бұрын
@@m.m.1933 they went willingly
@letsbereal9751Ай бұрын
@@m.m.1933 He was leaps and bounds more intelligent than you'll ever be.
@MATRIX-303-MАй бұрын
Water and Billionaires don't mix... Fact
@mlauri302 ай бұрын
“Low budget submersible” is something you never want to hear when you’re about to get on a submersible.
@johnhein25392 ай бұрын
Those ticket prices sure as heck weren't "low budget." Someone should have reinvested in his business. Could have had multi million dollar subs created by a total think tank of mental giant engineers which would have made his business safer and far more sustainable. And ultimately over time far more profitable. The man indeed had those billion dollar clients, all the more to reinvest in his equipment. I mean...a PS1 controller?
@ArantyrDarkhand2 ай бұрын
Low budget, submersible, Flyng vehicle, high speed vehicle. HELL Motorcycles are low budged vehicles, and you know how dangetous they are.
@jaysdood2 ай бұрын
Yep. Like budget condom but with the opposite effect - fewer people rather than more.
@HappyHands.2 ай бұрын
Yes Affordable, Low Budget, or Discount are words you never want in the same sentence with the word submarine.
@knowwhatimeme2 ай бұрын
Boeing disagrees
@johnsonhong76933 ай бұрын
When you want to remove the fence, ask why it was placed there in the first place.
@KingStr0ng3 ай бұрын
Most of the time, the answer will be to leave it alone.
@jens-eriksvrke23433 ай бұрын
The bull hasn't maimed people for years, why even have a fence
@adamsmiths30162 ай бұрын
@@KingStr0ng and that's the problem education not gatekeeping is what we need to focus on.
@KingStr0ng2 ай бұрын
@@adamsmiths3016 It's not gatekeeping to stop someone from risking the lives of multiple people. That's called justice.
@moonasha2 ай бұрын
I don't think removing the fence was the issue. The issue was they never really tested the submersible. They should have made it do like 100+ downs then ups, then cut the thing in half and examined it. Engineers at the company wanted to do that, but were told it would be too expensive. There's nothing wrong with innovating, they just weren't checking their work. If you look at like a spaceX rocket, they're doing crazy new things, and destructively test vehicles to find out what to fix next. Oceangate could have done something similar and created a truly innovative vehicle. I'm sure the final thing would have been quite a bit more reinforced than the Titan, but it would have been safer. Oh well.
@LaurentiusTriarius2 ай бұрын
"Stockton didn't like titanium" Probably because quotes for titanium casting this size were about ten times the price ...
@davidhollenshead48922 ай бұрын
Even more, as he used Expired Aviation Epoxy for his Carbon Fiber Hull...
@StocktonCrushedd2 ай бұрын
Why use titaium when carbon fiber is cheaper! 💥
@brodriguez11000Ай бұрын
@@StocktonCrushedd Paper mache.
@kazioo2Ай бұрын
No one makes titanium casting this big, so it would have to be made from many parts. I think the grid fins on Falcon 9 is the largest single piece of titanium manufactured.
@Dale-jr7ojАй бұрын
@@StocktonCrusheddlove the name lmfao
@aquachonk28 күн бұрын
Music is annoying.
@hgbugalou2 ай бұрын
He broke the rules, and then broke most of the molecular bonds of his body.
@Psycorde2 ай бұрын
He might still reassemble like Dr Manhattan, who'd be laughing then?
@DrewPWeenie12 ай бұрын
Oh those bonds weren’t “broke”. They were compressed 😂
@firstnamelastname99182 ай бұрын
LMAO! 🤣
@firstnamelastname99182 ай бұрын
@@DrewPWeenie1 I haven't run the numbers, but I presume that that type of rapid compression would have briefly brought the temperature of their remains up at least 800C where, yes, molecular bonds are going to break.
@DrewPWeenie12 ай бұрын
@@firstnamelastname9918 I haven’t thought of that. Haha. I was a little lit earlier (chemo). At 6000 psi… yeah I’d probably say you’re correct after thinking about it for a bit hahaha.
@peachy_lili2 ай бұрын
there's something so eerie about watching a man talk on his own hubris knowing he's been just.. vaporized. like my brain can't make that make sense almost
@imhonestlyjustsoconfused2 ай бұрын
Same honestly, there's something so strange about it. This man we are seeing in this video is dead, and my brain struggles to comprehend that.
@Khalrua2 ай бұрын
@@imhonestlyjustsoconfused that’s the way it goes!
@oliverfrots93002 ай бұрын
Just makes you almost wish he was somehow able to see how foolish he looks now, I would've been happier if he wasn't on the sub when it exploded so he could deal with the fallout from this disaster, and see how his narcissism and hubris killed people
@Mockthenerd2 ай бұрын
It's not that he's dead. It's that we know how he died. @@imhonestlyjustsoconfused
@Mockthenerd2 ай бұрын
These people don't care. If they did they wouldn't have done it in the first place. He'd have just blamed someone else and moved on. I just wish he was alone, those people he dragged with him were the real victims. @@oliverfrots9300
@epson_ecotank_et-28502 ай бұрын
I love how he always brings up how statistically safe subs are but proudly ignores the rules that make them safe
@filthynormie2 ай бұрын
And never mentioned that none go that deep
@min-fel2 ай бұрын
fr he's a businessman selling a product first and foremost wearing the skin of an engineer
@duncanhamilton58412 ай бұрын
Also fails to elaborate that commercial subs fall into two categories - shallow water for engineering or tourism, and deep water scientific, and they're worlds apart in terms of design, cost, and usage. What he tried to do was bodge the first category design and build into the second category usage. The bit that kinda baffles me a little is the passengers who never thought 'I wonder why this doesn't look anywhere near as substantial or over built as James Cameron's one?"
@ChimpFromSpace2 ай бұрын
He conveniently leaves out the part where none of those subs were made of carbon fiber.
@dagabbagool26002 ай бұрын
@duncanhamilton584 the entire premise of the company was to introduce deep sea tourism. To be profitable you have to take enough passengers. There are too many reasons to explain here why the traditional titanium sphere submersible cannot be built large enough to accommodate enough passengers.
@AlysterJohnEsturАй бұрын
The irony of him being the person to break the statistic of submarines being the safest vehicles on the planet.
@sexygirlmax2019Ай бұрын
Man...
@emselurniak2 ай бұрын
"Safety is just pure waste" is one of the scariest phrases you could hear when planning to take a trip into the ocean.
@randomlynamed33532 ай бұрын
Ocean trip? Hell I'd be worried if someone said that while cooking on a stove.
@giin972 ай бұрын
The full quote is generally reasonable. Yes, every action in life is a risk-reward analysis, and the only way to absolutely minimize risk is to never leave your bed. You take a risk taking a shower, you take a risk cooking, leaving the house, etc etc. All completely true, at some point safety is just pure waste. Where he failed was at the part of "breaking all the rules being just as safe." The goal should be more efficiently follow the idiot-proofing rules, not throw them out...
@H33t3Speaks2 ай бұрын
@@randomlynamed3353Handling scissors, also.
@FraldinhoBJJ2 ай бұрын
He’s such a typical billionaire lol
@alexejfrohlich58692 ай бұрын
@@giin97 yeah, exactly my thought: how can a guy be that smart, and not even realize the faulitness in his own "as safe while breaking the rules" analogy...? driving a car, there is always a rest of risk, yes. but it is lowered BY FOLLOWING THE RULES!!!! how on earth do you want to make it "as safe while breaking" if FOLLOWING the rules IS THE THING that makes it less dangerous????????? PRINCETON FFS!!!!!!!
@meeDamian2 ай бұрын
He wasn't building a coffin, he built a pressure-powered molecular disintegrator.
@3129vlogs2 ай бұрын
haha😂😂
@savvy42 ай бұрын
and he god damn succeeded
@buckmeiam56902 ай бұрын
DNA mixer?
@starzykillstar76522 ай бұрын
Behold! The billionaire implosion-inator!
@shiny24232 ай бұрын
😢
@hakshustletvАй бұрын
Jinxed themselves the moment they added "Gate" at the end lol
@Macka2332Ай бұрын
finally someone who picked up on it haha
@patrickmcdaniel2048Ай бұрын
Underrated comment 👏
@adzdrawssАй бұрын
when this first happened i didn’t realize it was the companies name and not the name of the incident
@a-dv7uyАй бұрын
Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmawhZRsd9uqrbs
@xelldincht4251Ай бұрын
He also called the vessel Titan
@gluttonousghostАй бұрын
Just cuz you're smart don't mean you're not stupid.
@Webaurant2 ай бұрын
His name even sounds like a bioshock antagonist
@chemicallystupid2 ай бұрын
He even wanted to have cities underwater at 2:49 Literally just Rapture
@mariokarter132 ай бұрын
"Did you mean Rupture or Rapture?" "Yes."
@WhitePOWERranger12 ай бұрын
Good one.
@HentaiSpirit2 ай бұрын
Tonstock
@reptiloidmitglied29302 ай бұрын
Funfact: Richard Stockton Rush the third (yeah, that's his full name) was an decendet of the Founding Fathers Richard Stockton and Benjamin Rush.
@CDS.262 ай бұрын
It’s ironic that a sub named titan failed because of a lack of titanium.
@Vezito15082 ай бұрын
💯
@snoiper-bp9vf2 ай бұрын
While diving to the titanic
@MRworldEtIkA2 ай бұрын
ironic that it's no titan size either
@thegamersconclave87092 ай бұрын
"Sheer fucking hubris."
@oscaranderson57192 ай бұрын
you could also say it’s because Stockton _Rushed_ it. 😎🤏
@alejandroc73572 ай бұрын
Bro really said “at some point safety is a pure waste” when dealing with 1000s lbs of pressure 😂
@Withlovefrominterent2 ай бұрын
Doesn't mean that's not a true statement though. There is definitely a point of diminishing returns when it comes to safety measures. There is also a point where the "safety gains" are so minuscule relative to the cost increase that it becomes pure waste. This is true in just about any industry one can think of.
@seekittycat2 ай бұрын
Bro didn't meet the point of safety bringing diminishing returns, he's at the point of no returns from the bottom of the ocean.
@dominiccaracciolo9102 ай бұрын
OSHA gets in the way of progress.
@Mrwaffleandmilk2 ай бұрын
@@Withlovefrominterentwhat are you talking about. In what sector would this be true ? Safety rules always stem from previous faults. That’s why the rules were developed. Dude broke the first rule of engineering thinking he knew more than he actually did. Saying your an expert in aerospace is the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. I’m an aerospace engineer and I know little to nothing about aerospace.
@csmith74042 ай бұрын
@Withlovefrominterent better not be wrong about where that point is though....
@isabelabga18 күн бұрын
Background music is awful
@greyfriars65403 ай бұрын
"At some point, safety is just pure waste." Should be written on Rush's tombstone.
@molybdomancer1953 ай бұрын
He doesn’t need a tombstone. There’s nothing to bury.
@nicholasleclerc15833 ай бұрын
@@molybdomancer195 Good enough joke, I guess, but lots of tombstones don't always oversee a buried corpse; including the cremated deceased
@iitzfizz3 ай бұрын
The fact that his holy grail of safety was the "hull monitoring system" when the failure mode would be so fast you'd never even get the message the hull was failing.
@AmericanThunder3 ай бұрын
@@nicholasleclerc1583 Often, cremated remains are buried with a headstone.
@kiwidiesel3 ай бұрын
Ironically Titanic is his tombstone.
@julian_hesse2 ай бұрын
"Statistically, the safest vehicles on the planet." He made it his mission to disprove this statement...
@Ltdo0072 ай бұрын
😂😭😭😭
@sister_bertrille9112 ай бұрын
The safest vehicle on the planet is my sister's bike. She never rides it.
@jonlamontagne2 ай бұрын
15 million people have gone on Subs? Is he talking about like tours and Museum submarines?😂😂
@kylemiller29202 ай бұрын
If that isn't just a made up statistic it is entirely due to those safety regs he so casually scoffed at.
@FleetAdmirable2 ай бұрын
@@kylemiller2920 Yeah i think its hilarious that if you say that theres a 0% of volcano deaths here so its fine if you jump into the volcano.
@Simonisms3 ай бұрын
Submersibles are statistically the safest vehicle on the planet Stockton Rush - hold my beer
@14959787072 ай бұрын
Because of all the safeguards that are put in place, and how inaccessible it is to stupid people. Same reason aviation is safe
@no-legjohnny36912 ай бұрын
Yeah, when he started yammering on about how safe subs are, all I thought was "tell that to the U-boat crews". The submarine fleet had one of the highest mortality rates of any job in the war, where 8 out of every 10 men who joined the Kreigsmarine to fight on a u-boat would end up dead. Hell, there are several post-war incidents involving submarines where something went wrong and the whole crew went down with the ship.
@SockDrawerDemon2 ай бұрын
The perfect example of, "Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics."
@meowmur3022 ай бұрын
@@no-legjohnny3691 U-boat fatality rates are a poor statistic to pull from seeing as war deaths =/= maintenance and QA problems
@unsuisseegare12912 ай бұрын
Soviet/Russian Navy - hold my beer
@Ihyjayce18 күн бұрын
26:17 THE NARUTO OST 😂😂
@s-t-f2 ай бұрын
4:43 "In the last 35 years there hasn't been any serious injuries with subs." "Let's change that!"
@superspies322 ай бұрын
Actually a year before this tragedy, one millitary submarine of Indonesia malfunctioned and imploded, killed all crew on it.
@s-t-f2 ай бұрын
@@superspies32 that's horrible
@drohsul68782 ай бұрын
@@superspies32 True, but to be fair Stockton Rush specified 'no private or commercial sub'
@clonezero_RR2 ай бұрын
Wasn't there a Chinese sub that broke down under the sea a little while before this happened?
@Schnittertm12 ай бұрын
@@superspies32 There was also an Argentinian sub lost a few years prior in 2017 and an Indian sub in 2013. Then there was the Kursk disaster at the beginning of the 2000's. That is beside the minor incidents (e.g. subs running aground in shallow waters or surfacing below ships), that didn't cause hull loses.
@LEMATTOFFICIAL2 ай бұрын
If someone building a SUB?! says with full confidence "at some point safety is just a waste" you will never find me or anyone I love in that sub. That is a man who has not defeated his ego. This disaster was inevitable with an attitude like that. Especially with something so complicated.
@MeMe-gm9di2 ай бұрын
I mean, it's a true statement, though. We do risky things every day, the biggest one being driving. It's one of the top killers, yet we do it. And even for free time activities, going to concerts is dangerous. Skydiving is dangerous. Hiking is dangerous. Going on a vacation is dangerous. There's a lot of things we do that have a little bit of elevated risk, something you can't account for, or something that would be exceedingly expensive to account for (e.g. we could make cars almost perfectly safe if we limit the speeds to 15mph everywhere! But that's not acceptable in most people's eyes, right?) But obviously Rush miscalculated the risk of his submarine, ironically with the one part that really needed to be safe, that he knew needed to be safe.
@peachy_lili2 ай бұрын
@@MeMe-gm9di personally I despise cars and think it'd be great if the US would get on the train train already.. so arguing about "we do it anyway" is a lil silly. we "do it anyway" because the oil and gas industry have us by the short hairs. but it's true, we do an awful lot that the average person never considers to be unsafe, because it's standard.
@Tardisntimbits2 ай бұрын
Submersible... Submarines are autonomous vehicles, submersibles, like the Titan, are not. They require a platform to launch from and return to.
@MeMe-gm9di2 ай бұрын
@@peachy_lili I mean, cars kill people in basically every country in the world. Though I do get your point, of course. I would love to limit cars, especially around humans, quite a lot! Limiting traffic to 15mph within city boundaries, if that was actually reliably enforced, would be a tradeoff I'd make. But the argument still stands! Currently, there's no political will for that.
@charlessamuel48562 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@ethanstyant97042 ай бұрын
I love how cocky he was. Like "nobody has thought to cut costs before, I'm an unparalled genius for thinking of this!"
@CrateChallenge2 ай бұрын
This was his second attempt, after being incredibly confident he could probably just hold his breath wayyyyyy longer than 'none genius' humans - and simply swim down to the Titanic.
@nicolethomas1674Ай бұрын
It wasn't just that. He was trash talking all of the other sub builders about their materials choice while spewing BS. I don't understand how he had engineering partners and they decided to go with a material that needed to be in tension to work and that would fatigue.
@christianbarnay2499Ай бұрын
@@nicolethomas1674 Money is a great motivator. As long as the paycheck is huge and they are not forced to participate in the ride you will always find people ready to built death traps.
@santoroshopper3Ай бұрын
It’s like to cut costs during your brain surgery is it worth it? You can buy cheaper cereal but some things can’t be skimped on
@bubbleman2002Ай бұрын
People with that much money live in a different universe where actions cannot have consequences that money cannot solve. Unfortunately, the ocean will not accept a bribe to delay crushing you into a human bread ball, and he probably genuinely hadn't thought of this until the Wii mote ran out of batteries.
@cosmosrunner2468Ай бұрын
His denial, delusion, arrogance and hubris is beyond astounding.
@armorhide406Ай бұрын
When you're a billionaire surrounded by yes men, you start to believe you're truly exceptional
@FrBipolar29 күн бұрын
Whole industry fueled by his ego
@daviddavidson23572 ай бұрын
His name was Stockton, he was in a rush He built quickly and poorly, told experts to hush Only the controller survived the imposive crush
@IGOR_V1G0R2 ай бұрын
Good one 😂😂
@-elthiccy-13882 ай бұрын
Reads like a Cuphead game over screen
@J_Dubya872 ай бұрын
And now all their family n friends, miss them very much....
@jjhaya2 ай бұрын
ey Macklemore is here.
@swaky51382 ай бұрын
@@J_Dubya87 As their loved ones have all been turned to mush...
@DeadPixel11053 ай бұрын
The captions are hilarious. "In 1912, the Titanic claimed 1500 lives (APPLAUSE)"
@orfamayQ3 ай бұрын
omg 😄
@Robert_D_Mercer2 ай бұрын
stuff like this is what makes me think AI gaining some form of concious of their own would be bad lmao
@gabrielsfilms20862 ай бұрын
@@Robert_D_Mercer why? you dont want the ai to have a bit of humor?
@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj2 ай бұрын
1504 lives now lol
@DeadPixel11052 ай бұрын
@@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj Oh yeah, touche!
@stankmcdankton6204Ай бұрын
" We got advisement from Boeing ..." Hooooo-boy, that's some dark foreshadowing
@@DoNotLookHerePlz Look at Boeing's incompetence and track record.
@trashfire9641Ай бұрын
@DoNotLookHerePlz Boeing is killing people who are blowing the whistle on their corruption and incompetence.
@npnqikv19 күн бұрын
What a pointless video. Good click bait I guess. Nothing new or interesting than was covered in many videos last year. You actually covered a lot less than other people did. I thought I had pressed next video by mistake when it was over. I thought more than 50% was left.
@bunnman122 ай бұрын
I like how they consulted nothing but aerospace and flight engineers. Kinda the opposite direction.
@windws71372 ай бұрын
FOR REAL😭😭
@roughrosa2 ай бұрын
If the submarine works, he would be deemed genius for thinking non-linearly, defying the conventional. However, genius has limits, stupidity has none.
@ackmandesu85382 ай бұрын
Wasn't it proven that they didn't work with NASA or Boeing anyway?
@HHTwice2 ай бұрын
@@windws7137😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 NPC
@willSugar2 ай бұрын
There is a Futurama scene where their spaceship is being pulled underwater and the professor says “dear lord that is 150 atm of pressure” and Fry asks “how many atm it can take” and the professor answers “its a spaceship so anywhere between 0 and 1”
@jonesy2792 ай бұрын
Rush is legitimately responsible for the negligent homicide of those passengers. Him being smug while saying “submarines are the safest vehicles on the planet” and then deciding that all of these safety measures are unnecessary is proof that he’s nowhere near as smart as he thought he was. Almost every story about the Titanic focuses on the hubris of man and the proclamation that it’s “unsinkable.” Not once did he appreciate the irony of his own ego.
@personnesenki45212 ай бұрын
They *were* the safest vehicles on the planet until he came along.
@Jake_Garcia2 ай бұрын
its pretty ironic to claim they were the safest when he himself disregards the very safety measures that made these subs the safest
@sown-laughter43512 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he lost any intelligent credibility when he said "When The Sun extinguishes, there will still be Hydrothermal vents".
@honor9lite13372 ай бұрын
Correct.
@MrsMacWifey2 ай бұрын
Well said.
@makeupyourmindinator2 ай бұрын
Whaat? Did he say “when the sun extinguishes there will still be thermal vents”. Because when the sun goes out there won’t be an earth left as it has extended out beyond earth and has vaporized it. For such a smart guy he was pretty dumb.
@bag-manbaron25472 ай бұрын
Dude I also had to stop the video to admire that absolute brain dead take of his
@josh___something2 ай бұрын
Bold of you to assume he was smart, when we have clear evidence of the contrary.
@luminatrixfanfiction2 ай бұрын
@@bag-manbaron2547 Yeah saying something like that is equivalent to saying "don't fly too close to the sun with Icarus wings, else you get burned". That's just inviting bad omen before a maiden voyage. Definitely not smart.
@Anna_Stetik2 ай бұрын
This is what we learned in 5th grade science. I remember it, because when I was that young, I was absolutely petrified of death - so learning that the sun will, one day, destroy the earth....that lesson stuck.
@jasperzanovich25042 ай бұрын
@@Anna_Stetik Don't worry, I am sure we will have managed to go extinct by then several times over.
@93_Silverado19 күн бұрын
I kind of agree with what stockton said about saftey being waste, but not pure waste and not in a scenerio where you are travelling 12,500 feet under water and being under 12,500 feet of water pressure
@TJJones-ck7gj2 ай бұрын
“When I started the business old timers told me I was nuts.” There’s a reason they are old timers, sir. They followed the rules and *lived* long enough to *be* old.
@halroxdynasty86832 ай бұрын
LMAOOOOOO I love this comment. I stg!
@SpoopySquid2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of a saying my uncle, who's a retired pilot, would say: You get old pilots and you get bold pilots, but you rarely get old bold pilots
@BoingBB2 ай бұрын
@@SpoopySquid I've heard that saying. I can't remember who first said it but that's irrelevant. It's still very true!
@peachy_lili2 ай бұрын
@@SpoopySquid oh that's SO good
@HarmKaban2 ай бұрын
@@SpoopySquid Another good saying: "Be wary of an old man in a business where men die young". It doesn't 100% fit here, but I just really like that saying.
@zachbishop54212 ай бұрын
Subs are statistically the safest vehicles on earth WHEN YOU FOLLOW THE SAFETY REGULALATIONS 😂😂
@emberfist83472 ай бұрын
I love he added the caveat of commercial Submarines which are few and far between. The Navies of the world have and still do bear the brunt of submarine fatalities.
@HomoLegalMedic2 ай бұрын
They're statistically the safest because there is significantly less of them and experts control them. Put as many subs as there are cars in the ocean and let regular men and women control them, and they'll be the most unsafe.
@Bernard_Marx2 ай бұрын
"Subs are statistically the safest vehicles on earth" ... but our sub is nothing like them - and breaks (not just the rules).
@Blxz2 ай бұрын
"So many rules and regulations" paired with "no sub fatalities in years" really starts to make sense in hindsight.
@Ad_Inferno2 ай бұрын
@@Blxz It truly amazes me when people see an activity with low rates of injury or death while also having a lot of regulations and rather than assume the regulations keep them safe, they assume the regulations must be unnecessary.
@bastiat6865Ай бұрын
The flight of Icarus, in the opposite direction, with passengers.
@Poussyeater-w5eАй бұрын
He fucked around and found out
@EliasKayama245Ай бұрын
Fr
@insomniactrash4598Ай бұрын
That’s just what I was thinking
@anyaaa280118 күн бұрын
He messed around, ignored safety warnings and found out the hard way WHY these safety measures were there in the first place. I mean, a video game console???
@indyj163 ай бұрын
The OceanGate people failed for the same reason Enron did: they were smart enough to get around the rules but not wise enough to realize why the rules were there in the first place.
@davinp3 ай бұрын
Just like Captain Smith ignored safety warnings on Titanic, so did Stockham Rush on the Titan
@letstalkaboutit82543 ай бұрын
Rush knew the dangers involved but insisted on using his unproven design, I'm guessing because it was quite a bit lighter than steel- But as we found out also weaker than steel. Of course when lives are on the line you MUST go with a tried & true design. Period.
@diesopain2603 ай бұрын
One doesn’t simply defy the laws of physics
@amandaburnham86263 ай бұрын
Beautifully put
@harrietharlow99293 ай бұрын
@@davinp Captain Smith did not ignore safety warnings. Learn some History.
@GippyHappy2 ай бұрын
I hate that he never even got to learn his lesson. He went to the grave thinking he was smarter than everyone else, and he dragged the rest of the people in that sub down with him.
@shambolicrhetoric61432 ай бұрын
It’s more likely than not that he was aware that the hull was failing in the moments before he died. There was a hill failure alarm that detected damage. He had at least a few moments of terror and seeing the terror on the face of his innocent victims. It would have sounded crazy, like thousands of glass shards smashing. Loud and terrifying.
@Jesse-lv2yo2 ай бұрын
@@shambolicrhetoric6143most failures under pressure that extreme are catastrophic and occur in a fraction of a fraction of a second. They were almost certainly liquified before the alarm could even trigger.
@philhiller-mn1gw2 ай бұрын
Boeing has Astronauts stranded in Space now. Waiting.
@perwestermark89202 ай бұрын
@@philhiller-mn1gw Nope. The astronauts aren't really stranded. It's an intentional decision to stay in space and try to collect evidence of why they have a leak, so their next build can improve. But they don't need to fix anything to be able to return.
@GippyHappy2 ай бұрын
@@shambolicrhetoric6143 It's possible, but given that he apparently had heard cracking noises during dives before and completely ignored them, it's equally possible his last words were dismissing their concerns and insisting everything was going as planned.
@PhilForrest2 ай бұрын
Hard to believe this guy had an engineering degree. The level of disregard for data and professional practices is stunning.
@alexmin47522 ай бұрын
I'm just a chemical engineer but even I know that carbon fiber works great for tensile loads but is weak in terms of compression and shear stress a sub would experience underwater. It's great for gas bottles, maybe it's good for spacecraft but it's not supposed to go into a sumbarine. Also I don't get the problem with weight to buoancy ratio he speaks of. Why even care? Some styrofoam floaters cost nothing. You could even make a submarine using steel. It would be extremelely thick, heavy and big but it's possible.
@Ildarioon2 ай бұрын
@@alexmin4752 Styrofoam would deform too much. Also, the bigger problem with carbon fibers is that it's not an homogeneous material and it's very hard to test its aging and imperfection accurately.
@yaqbulyakkerbat41902 ай бұрын
probably paid for it instead of earning it
@zbou232 ай бұрын
The competency crisis will accelerate
@IstasPumaNevada2 ай бұрын
A degree isn't proof of intelligence or competence, it's just proof that some place gave you a degree, which usually means just remembering the list of things they want you to remember long enough to regurgitate answers for a test. Or it could mean that your parents simply had enough money/influence to get it for you.
@trutheye12 ай бұрын
I don’t think he really understood how immense 6,000 psi is. He’s talking about strength to buoyancy when he should have been thinking more about strength to time.
@gschaaf7132 ай бұрын
or just strength. nothing is more important than making sure your vessel doesnt collapse.
@TheGreatVartan2 ай бұрын
This is a stupid comment. The guy was a Princeton graduate and very intellectually gifted, but somehow this video gets flooded with a sea of redditors, being probably one of the stupidest breed of human beings alive, coming in to joke about how stupid he is or how they know better. The guys' calculations worked, he made 13 successful trips to the titanic ffs, what he didn't account for is how the psi would induce heavy wear and tear on the carbon pressure vessel. I'm assuming this is because the data on this phenomenon was not readily available. But to act like the guy was an idiot is truly peak dumbfuckery that only redditors can accomplish.
@JamesCarmichael3 ай бұрын
I love how Rush called the experts "old timers" as if he's a spring chicken.
@JamesDBlanc2 ай бұрын
But he's different tho! He's the special one lmao
@murmaider22 ай бұрын
yes the horror that is old white men
@misscleo3782 ай бұрын
Just pure arrogance on his part. He was trying to disparage the actual experts in this field by suggesting they are too old to accept new advances in materials and mechanics. Turns out they were right.
@JamesCarmichael2 ай бұрын
@@misscleo378 Pure truth right there.
@JamesCarmichael2 ай бұрын
@@JamesDBlanc Yeah. He is different. He's in a million pieces at the bottom of the ocean being eaten by marine animals. Along with his 4 victims I might add.
@blaketucker90702 ай бұрын
This guy stated how the rules for safety were too strict but then also leveraged how no accidents had occurred for years because of those same rules.
@Nyah4202 ай бұрын
Uplifting to know submarine rules have reached a golden state where, if you follow them, you can be at ease that they'll be safe. This man reminded everyone why the rules were so strict.
@mikimiyazaki2 ай бұрын
Lol!
@MilahanPhilosophersCorner2 ай бұрын
Good point.
@giannaleng18972 ай бұрын
Regulations are written in blood. There’s a good reason those rules were put in place and if you don’t want to find out why, you better follow them.
@Michael-e5o2 ай бұрын
Yes, he maintained submarines were relatively safe vehicles yet abandoned the many regulations in his own sub that would include it in that safe group. Moron.
@EastMicroAM221 күн бұрын
Innovating expensive ways to die. Tragic.
@inquisitorbacon81702 ай бұрын
"Partnered with Boeing" Ohhhh... oh no...
@leiii052 ай бұрын
What's wrong with Boeing
@JayJay-ki4mi2 ай бұрын
@@leiii05 what rocks are you living under?
@leiii052 ай бұрын
@@JayJay-ki4mi the type that is not aware of boeing I'm genuinely asking bro
@MrNikolidas2 ай бұрын
@@leiii05 The FAA let Boeing certify its own plane, the 737 Max, which led to an undiagnosed MCAS system flaw that crashed Lion Air 610 in October 2018 and Ethiopian Airlines 302 in March 2019, losing all souls on board both aircraft. The Max was subsequently grounded for 20 months. Boeing's safety culture is currently being probed by US Congress after Alaska Airlines 1282 had a plug door ripped off the fuselage due to incorrect installation.
@inquisitorbacon81702 ай бұрын
@leiii05 they've become a manufacturer that doesn't care at all about the safety of their passengers or flight crews. Their 737MAX is a coffin with wings and engines way too big for it.
@cottoneyedpho64782 ай бұрын
He said this after around 80 people died in a Argentinian submarine a couple years ago. I served on submarines for around 8 years and I agree that they are safer than most people would think. But the kicker is when something goes any bit wrong on a sub, it goes very wrong.
@Simon_Q2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same, and it was a military sub non the less!
@lacunakardia2 ай бұрын
44 dead, not 80
@dankbonkripper28452 ай бұрын
yeah the second I saw that (I had never seen that speech before) I understood just how deep his hubris went. Subs are used mainly by militaries, with trained people who follow strict rules. Not by the common man every day. Rhe fact he thought crash/casualty rates were comparable between the most common means of transportation versus a fucking submarine. is just ignorance. It's like people who think the A10 has a hogh Blue on Blue rate. Is it high? Yes, it is. Now compare it to planes that routinely called in to help soldiers with munitions within a hundred feet of soldiers. It's not comparable.
@ricardoalves96052 ай бұрын
And you know, all those pesky regulations that Rush ignored might have been there for a reason, regulations are written in blood, the fact that they're safe is because of how strict the rules for them are.
@jaimdiojtar2 ай бұрын
As argentine i can tell you our submarine was imploded because of the disrepair and corruption all these sailors died sadly
@Makowh2 ай бұрын
There is so much corporate speech in this video, I grew a 3-piece suit over the viewing
@chiaraA.2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Killllian2 ай бұрын
As long as it’s benign.
@Lilgus842 ай бұрын
Really is. It is nauseating to hear. Modern day snake oil salesmen.
@johnnysunday402Ай бұрын
I now want to see Paul Allens business card.
@bededd3921 күн бұрын
Oceangategate - the biggest scandal since Watergategate.
@OneFluffyBun2 ай бұрын
the mental whiplash i got when i realized it actually was a year ago
@massawakening1072Ай бұрын
The construct of time seems to be dissipating, as well as the “veil”. I deeply resonate with the saying truth is stranger than fiction
@Throbbing_GimpАй бұрын
I know, I remember talking about it as if it was yesterday. How time flies
@losttimeoverlandАй бұрын
Totally with you. I was gobsmacked when I saw news that it was the 1 year anniversary. Where TF did the last year go?
@rockyevans1584Ай бұрын
Felt like 2 years to me
@saturnstorm85Ай бұрын
To me, it feels like time is accelerating even though I know it's supposed to be a constant
@yambo593 ай бұрын
Whoa - when he says "There hasnt been an injury on any commercial vessel even though 15 million have gone down in them"-- note how he tries to rely on the safety of all the previously proven and certified conventionally built TITANIUM subs who had no problems to make his own craft seem safe - what a sneaky way to try and make your own UNCERTIFIED vessel seem safe - what a blatantly deceptive arrogant jerk playing with others lives. Also I dont think 15 million people have been that deep before as he claimed.
@BoomBrush3 ай бұрын
Yeah lol. Imagine buying a new car and saying that because your vehicle has had zero accidents, you can drive at 200km/h and not crash
@grnbrg2 ай бұрын
But ask yourself how they got the number of 15 million... Probably by including "submersibles" like the 4 that operated at West Edmonton Mall for 20 years. Not really comparable.
@americanbadass882 ай бұрын
He even came up with the excuse that the over 50 something year olds with 20+ years of experience in like the NAVY or maritime stuff wasn't "inspirational" to him. which means ANYONE with experience took one look at that thing LAUGHED hysterical and said HELL NO.
@why-even-try-brotendo2 ай бұрын
A nice mix of a little gaslighting and a lot of fraud
@paulyoung75512 ай бұрын
The reason deep sea submersibles are as safe as Stockton was proclaiming them to be, is because of the very regulation he was trying to get around. Did he really think submersibles and the deep sea were naturally harmless??
@anothertom222 ай бұрын
Engineers don’t say, “safety is waste”
@bellsTheorem11382 ай бұрын
That would be more of a capitalist ethos. Which is what he was.
@anothertom222 ай бұрын
@@bellsTheorem1138 yeah
@majorramsey3k2 ай бұрын
@@bellsTheorem1138 Ah yes, cause Communism is famous for promoting safety. coughchernobylcough
@hasarobo88992 ай бұрын
I'm not sticking up for Stockton, nor think it was a good idea to dive more than once in the titan.. But a lot of the safety these days is from people who clearly lack common sense
@bellsTheorem11382 ай бұрын
@@majorramsey3k regulation is the alternative. You dont have to immediately run to communism.
@Monster-519Ай бұрын
Ahhh yes.... carbon fiber...... the stuff you can put on cars and that arrows are made of plus many other stuff that should not be tested in the ocean at extreme depths.
@MrStratofish3 ай бұрын
"There has been x dives with no accidents and it's the safest form of transport. Therefore we won't bother with safety, compliance or certification and the law of averages will ensure we are safe"
@MrKrewie3 ай бұрын
Rush didn't think each of those dives strained his janky carbon fiber hull actually increasing the risk for each dive
@steveo6013 ай бұрын
That guy was so FOS.😂.At least now CF hopefully will never again be used for a deep sea sub pressure vessel. The CF was gone from that debris that came up.vaporized. 🫣🫣🫣
@steveo6013 ай бұрын
@@MrKrewie To the contrary he apparently believed that each crackle sound that it made on every dive, was the weak fibers breaking so it was getting stronger. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣
@MichaelJohnson-ij5ei3 ай бұрын
Lol yeah, that's the great irony. The fact that it had been so safe was due to the stringent safety standards, a safety record that he is then using to justify not upholding those standards.
@MrKrewie3 ай бұрын
@@steveo601 we all know the carbon fiber decided to just give up when Rush cheaped out and used a knock off logitech controller instead of the ps3 controller
@KSparks803 ай бұрын
"If we mess it up, there's not a lot of recovery". He got that part right.
@jaywilldoit2 ай бұрын
Bro was like: there hasn’t been a submarine accident in 50 years. Lemme change that.
@Original_Syn2 ай бұрын
Stockton: “There hasn’t been an accident in 50 years.” Ocean: “Aight bet”
@johnvesper9892 ай бұрын
If memory serves, Both India and Argentina (Maybe Chile ) have lost subs in the last decade.
@KLanio-lr8yv2 ай бұрын
@@johnvesper989 the kursk was not that long ago either
@johnvesper9892 ай бұрын
@@KLanio-lr8yv true
@StocktonCrushedd2 ай бұрын
And I succeeded 😁💥
@MRD_977 күн бұрын
This is one of the most in-depth documentaries of the story of Ocean Gate that I've ever seen. Why did it get unlisted?
@1.0xY.m0r0n2 ай бұрын
Oceangate, specifically the Titanic expeditions, is a great study on why safety is more than just a set of "rules." Safety is a culture, whether it's on a job site or at the bottom of the ocean, and a failure to uphold that can and will cost lives. Stockton Rush is a testament to what happens when arrogance meets ignorance.
@jackie10922 ай бұрын
What aggravates me is that this egotistical ceo will never hear an "i told you so"
@WallaWaller2 ай бұрын
He will if there's an afterlife
@GhengisJohn2 ай бұрын
I like to imagine he did when that sub started to crack.
@josh___something2 ай бұрын
I feel like turning into a homogenous paste is enough of an "I told you so", to be fair.
@bitharne2 ай бұрын
@@josh___somethingnot really: remember that half the reason religion exists is people really HATE the idea that people they don’t like won’t KNOW they messed up…that evil people can “get away with it”
@josh___something2 ай бұрын
@@bitharne I repeat, getting turned into fine paste doesn't feel like "getting away with this"
@sammurphy33433 ай бұрын
"It looks like it's built together with a piece of string, but its not obviously. " that's literally what carbon filter composite is lol
@andyjasso30503 ай бұрын
Carbon fibre is exactly that a fibre it gets it's strength when combined with other composites ie epoxy resin
@steveo6013 ай бұрын
@@andyjasso3050 They used the 5 minute gorilla glue from Lowe’s
@WobblesandBean3 ай бұрын
@@andyjasso3050 Not only that, but it's useless when it comes to compression stress. Carbon fiber is unbelievably durable, but for tensile strength only.
@Zirion1232 ай бұрын
@@WobblesandBeanjust look at the new cars with carbon wheels, they always crack under heavy compression
@dsandoval93962 ай бұрын
Also, from my understanding, the deal with carbon fiber is that it's not as easy to find flaws or cracks in the haul unlike steel. On steel hauls they can use X-ray sensors as well as other methods to find micro cracks withIN the steel itself, cracks that might not be visible on the surface but is present within the metal itself. I also heard that basically the very first dive is pretty much the strongest the haul is ever going to be (with microfiber), but after repeated dives ANY micro cracks in the microfiber haul are _WAY_ more dangerous to the structure because of the characteristics of MF. Micro cracks aren't wanted at all, but if they showed up in steel then at least the structure is still very strong. In micro fiber it's critical.
@Unknownjenkins15224 күн бұрын
click bait video
@silkwormchan3 ай бұрын
My guy literally wanted to build Rapture
@devonsquatch3 ай бұрын
bro thought he was in bioshock, but he was in iron lung instead
@SethEssington3 ай бұрын
@@devonsquatch Lmao this is perfect!
@kevingame31983 ай бұрын
Or in this case fontaine from Genshin impact
@daveba56492 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHradGyVi6iNebs
@mazafakabitch11132 ай бұрын
But got Rupture
@hothotheat30003 ай бұрын
When Your Midlife Crisis Goes Wrong.
@m.h.64993 ай бұрын
I feel guilty, but that did make me laugh! 🫢 He should’ve just gotten the red convertible!
@leftylizard90852 ай бұрын
When your midlife crisis becomes an endlife crisis
@ryanhampson6732 ай бұрын
The three strikes rule is crazy…I fly helicopters for a living, if ONE thing is out of the ordinary I don’t fly until that’s fixed.
@derschnuff88192 ай бұрын
..and that commands common sense. Hard to understand. Sounds to me it was not a rare occursion, that one or two things were out of the ordinary with the titan...and therefore they came up with the three strikes rule. If you think about, that this might be the background, it becomes even more crazy.
@alhdgysz2 ай бұрын
Don't you have MEL?
@yaboyluhant73742 ай бұрын
Oh that’s y they killed him , like he said we so busy looking in space y not the ocean and 👀
@1thess5232 ай бұрын
My son is a flight line mechanic for one of the Air Force bases in town and if something's not right or even if they can't find a tool those planes don't fly
@justinr64392 ай бұрын
@@yaboyluhant7374this is why we don't...the pressure...its easier to explore space 😂😂😂
@mav9143Ай бұрын
The Naruto battle music 😂😂
@navajojohn94483 ай бұрын
How dumb do you have to be to get into an uncertified under water tomb that can't be opened from the inside after signing a release form saying you may die on your joyride?
@Corgisaurus-Rex3 ай бұрын
Never underestimate the combined power of ego, ignorance, and money.
@blackpajamas66003 ай бұрын
It's a good question. Most of the people on that sub should have known better - of the people who perished on the Titan, I think 3 of those men should have known better: Stockton Rush, Hamish Hardin, and P.H. Nargeolet. Of those 3, I think Stockton Rush has the most culpability for what happened - he was the one who was effectively leading OceanGate's attempts to convince people the Titan was safe when it truly wasn't. Hamish Harding was a billionaire adventurer and had done daring rich-man things before - your guess is as good as mine as to whether Hamish really thought Titan was safe. Maybe his travels with other underwater ventures should have told him that Stockton was cutting corners. From my understanding based on some interviews referencing P.H. Nargeolet, he *may* have had a sense that something was amiss but he told people that part of the reason he was associated with OceanGate at all was because he thought his own experiences in the ocean could help Rush and his team - he thought maybe he'd be able to help make sure they were exploring safely. We already know how much his advice helped. Of the other 2 men who died, it's hard to tell how "dumb" they were. Shazada Dawood was not an experienced billionaire adventurer like Harding, at least not to my knowledge. He was simply a billionaire who had the money to do daring and adventurous things. I don't know that he would have had the technical expertise and understanding to know why the Titan was so dangerous, but I suppose there's some amount of willful ignorance when you sign paperwork that says you could die. I get the sense his money let him do things he knew few people could, and as a result he may have willfully ignored signs of danger. His son Suleman, based on what I've read, seems to be the only truly blameless person on the vessel - not really old enough to know what questions to ask (as well as what warnings to heed), and no doubt trustful of his father. Bottom line: 4 of those people should have known to tell the 5th that this wasn't a trip he should be allowed to take.
@ToreDL873 ай бұрын
Nargeolet Really should have known much better, it wasn't his first rodeo and he knew practically everyone in the deep sea diving community. Sad as it is (which of course I think it is), it might just a way of Titanic getting a bit of justice, Nargeolet is known for having participated in several Titanic dives where artifacts were taken without approval. He may even have been on one of (or all of, nobody knows) the completely undocumented expeditions that took the Crows Nest (which is simply missing).
@blackpajamas66003 ай бұрын
@@ToreDL87 Holy crap, I didn't know about the theft of Titanic artifacts. If that is indeed the case with Nargeolet, thenI can't think of a greater irony than dying aboard the Titan.
@markup63943 ай бұрын
The Titan may be a bad example but thats literally how discoveries are and were made. Calling them "joyrides" is pretty ridiculous...
@lornaginetteharrison71682 ай бұрын
"I’d like to be remembered as an innovator." Sorry Stockton, history will remember you as a reckless murderer.
@gusiii8642 ай бұрын
He probably won’t be remembered
@spitfire1842 ай бұрын
@@gusiii864He's on the Titanic Wiki page; this tales's got -legs- flippers.
@H33t3Speaks2 ай бұрын
@@gusiii864🎉🎉🎉
@H33t3Speaks2 ай бұрын
I always think “Oh yeah, that moron.”
@omarbueno98342 ай бұрын
@@gusiii864shit I had forgotten about it until I saw the thumbnail
@oxxnarrdflame88652 ай бұрын
You may ignore the laws of man, you cannot ignore the laws of physics. No amount of arrogance will overcome that.
@MavHunter20XX2 ай бұрын
Unless you're Homer Simpson
@emiliovicente71382 ай бұрын
It is clear that he wasn't Homer Simpson@@MavHunter20XX
@denisemcdougal64452 ай бұрын
Fact
@TheBeggies952 ай бұрын
The laws of science are too strong. Thats why people fighting biology in today’s world are not what they say they are
@briannyob77992 ай бұрын
@@TheBeggies95LOL.
@G.Dean10024 күн бұрын
He took the whole outside the box thing too literally
@Mouse_Lyne2 ай бұрын
The fact that Stockton recognizes that submarines are historically exceedingly safe, but has no cognitive dissonance dismissing the high safety standards of the industry, tells me he was actually quite a stupid man. An intelligent man can understand the how and why of the world around him, not just charge headlong into the unknown and call everyone else a coward.
@sprinkle612 ай бұрын
You can both be intelligent and believe the current regime traps you in a system you didn't consent to. I personally don't like Social Security, and I am intelligent enough to easily save and invest and get 10 X or better returns on my payroll taxes, but there is no way in the current system to redirect your taxes to your own idea, and Stockton probably felt the same about safety regulations. It was only stupid in retrospect. The first 10 times he went down to the titanic he was a genius, its just that one time too many. Also, the sub had not been used in a while, so its possible that something happened to it in storage, and it was no longer fit to dive, and they didn't notice it.
@DeadManSinging12 ай бұрын
@@sprinkle61Most intelligent libertarian
@Mouse_Lyne2 ай бұрын
@@sprinkle61 why are you talking about social security 😂 no one is saying it’s always smart to follow every rule, just that intelligent people understand why rules exist. Stockton didn’t understand that, and by the sound of it neither do you lol.
@lyinarbaeldeth24562 ай бұрын
@@sprinkle61 No, he was stupid every time, because it was the same fundamentally flawed, regulation-dodging, safety-protocol-violating design, every time. He was stupid and *dead* the final time; but he was stupid every time, because it was a bad idea, executed poorly, in the face of decades of engineering telling him otherwise.
@dretchlord8732 ай бұрын
@@lyinarbaeldeth2456 It's not stupid if it works so wrong there. He only became stupid that last time
@Sorarse3 ай бұрын
"I want to be remembered for the rules I've broken." Goal achieved.
@ingamingpc16342 ай бұрын
He's going to be remembered for the rules he forcefully created his dumbass is the reason why we have rules
@ONEDUMMYBOI2 ай бұрын
*task failed succesfully*
@seanbeukman95632 ай бұрын
Excellent
@ReturnOfTheJ.D.2 ай бұрын
And the lives also.
@hortensia94392 ай бұрын
_a finger curls on the monkey's paw_
@kamo72932 ай бұрын
"there will be cities underwater" me having played bioshock: that's not a good idea mate!
@MrChummington2 ай бұрын
Best ye 'and over all yer ADAM mate
@crimsondynamo6152 ай бұрын
Best part is in bioshock 2 we find rapture has collapsed. Was not meant to last.
@ryszakowy2 ай бұрын
@@crimsondynamo615 dude... rapute has collapsed before first bioshock that's how atlas managed to make his attack on new years eve
@D201-o4k2 ай бұрын
Underwater city will always be cooler than a sky city.
@KarazolaX2 ай бұрын
@@crimsondynamo615 Rapture wasn't a real place. Its rise and collapse has literally no significance, because it was all written as a narrative. A narrative that has far more to do with commentary on the failings of Randian, hypercapitalist philosophy then on the practical viability of an underwater city.
@WhiteVastNinjaАй бұрын
Love the Bleach music at the end
@SkyBiscoff2 ай бұрын
“When the sun extinguishes there will still be geo thermal vents underwater “ ok the guy has no clue, we sure he wanted to be an astronaut? He missed the whole sun expanding before it goes out?
@rejvaik002 ай бұрын
I was just about to comment that 😂 Yeah I think he'd make a pretty poor astronaut as he was an engineer for submersibles
@SockDrawerDemon2 ай бұрын
I think he may have been confusing Star Trek with a documentary. Gave up once he realised there were no Martian Babes around.
@yuw7772 ай бұрын
There is a new world planned much better than this one. The sun and moon will no longer be needed as God and his son JESUS will bring a new Jerusalem down from heaven and it will be in Jerusalem. The lion and the lamb will lie down together and all eat grass. Humans will live on Earth. The old Earth is scheduled for destruction. This is all foretold in the Bible. See last chapter Revelations. It tells you about the giant war fought on the planes of Europe. How do you get to live in this better world when it happens become a Christian by admitting do wrong and sin, call on JESUS CHRIST to save you. That is the beginning. The holy spirit comes into your heart and start to change it to a heart like Gods. Good and faithful and forgiving and merciful. So hope abounds. We are not really material anyway but spiritual. This body is just a shell. You get a new one for the new world. Only way to get their and get in is by the name of JESUS CHRIST and do the above. No other way. God bless.
@yuw7772 ай бұрын
GOD is the light. Much brighter than the sun. Reason do not need one.
@pigpuke2 ай бұрын
The Sun isn't big enough to explode. It will swell into a red giant (which will engulf the Earth and maybe Mars) then shrink into a white dwarf. You need at least 8 solar masses for the smallest super nova. We will get barbequed though. Edit: Misread the OP, said "expanding" not "exploding" - Don't comment two hours past your normal bed time kids.
@torment47233 ай бұрын
"I wanted to become an astronaut" Thank God you didn't.
@TheKisj2 ай бұрын
Well statistically speaking, it's a lower chance to die in space, than underwater
@torment47232 ай бұрын
@@TheKisj Yes, because people like this guy never made it into the space exploration industry.
@ununun99952 ай бұрын
@@TheKisj you will likely die before because of a malfunction in the craft.
@silentecho92able2 ай бұрын
@@ununun9995 That or get stuck in drifting in space as your food supply slowly runs out.
@ShadowManceri2 ай бұрын
Funny enough, it's way easier to build a spacecraft than submarine. Spacecraft doesn't need to handle any pressure, only radiation really. Tricky part is getting it into space and keeping it there.
@milney2 ай бұрын
Stockton seriously used the fact that safety regulations had kept submariners safe from serious injury for 35 years as his reason for not following them. The man was completely deluded.
@jamestaylor38052 ай бұрын
Survivorship Bias. It's strangly common. It was even practiced by the US military throughout WWII when re engineering aircraft based on strike patterns.
@KillerCornMuffin2 ай бұрын
That was the biggest red flag for me. Another way to say what he said: "For the last 35 years safety regulations have kept millions of lives safe under water. None of those regulations have passed on my sub."
@josiahdelamotte2 ай бұрын
I foresee a new “find the flaw” question on the LSAT
@KingIsulgard2 ай бұрын
Yet touts the safety of submarines, which do follow the rules, as an argument why HIS submarine was also safe. Hey submarines are super safe, they transport millions of people with barely any deaths, due to their strict safety regulations. Anyway, I build my own, and ignored those safety regulations, so come hop on, submarines are safe, so so is mine!
@Handlethetruth6662 ай бұрын
More money than sense
@awsfernandez63Ай бұрын
If he had gone solo on that fatal dive, we might view him as some sort of martyr or trailblazer. The fact that he convinced 4 other people to join him and ultimately kill them with his hubris and arrogance makes him a huge piece of sh*t. That 19 year old had his whole life ahead of him.
@hollysielaff5453Ай бұрын
Agreed. If he had gone alone to pursue his dream he would be considered a trailblazer, the fact he took others with him under the guise of it being "a once in a lifetime experience" and charged them money is what makes this especially horrible. Yes, he had a release stating there were risks, but how many of us sign those types of releases everyday knowing what we are doing is 99.9% safe and the releases are just for that 0.1% chance something happens. He sold those people that this excursion was statistically safe.
@Ruaridoll2 ай бұрын
When the sun extinguishes has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard someone with 'aerospace education' say.
@dyamonde9555Ай бұрын
directly followed by the second dumbest thing, that we will have any chance to survive on earth when it happens.
@Chris-oj7roАй бұрын
@@dyamonde9555 probably trying to stir up the same excitement that he saw from the Mars movement
@chickenindabox3169Ай бұрын
I personally like to think he just watched and copied that one Vsauce Video about what would happen when the sun disappears
@jtfikeАй бұрын
almost as dumb as the reasons for a colony on Mars....
@Typhon888Ай бұрын
If the sun goes away the whole earth will freeze and die. Won’t that be wonderful.
@neonloneliness12 ай бұрын
"statistically, submarines are the safest vehicles on the planet" stockton rush: i can change that
@davidturner16412 ай бұрын
him making a sub wasnt necessarily the problem him being an idiot and making things super unsafe is what was the prob
@cannedsaladsoup4302 ай бұрын
because the stats have nothing to do with all the dumb rules and regulations on subs 🫠 (heavy sarcasm)
@chrisrmorriscm2 ай бұрын
Submarines are the safest vehicle? I have an engineering degree, hold my wine cooler
@TheIronClooch2 ай бұрын
@@davidturner1641 gee, d'ya think?
@AverageWagie2 ай бұрын
Calling that tin can a "submarine" is applying a very loose definition of the word
@w4drone7202 ай бұрын
i like how their first subs look perfectly respectable and then titan looks like a toliet paper tube with a tv in it
@ARandomGuy71272 ай бұрын
The second one was self built, no?
@mikeschneider50772 ай бұрын
Always read your mileswmathis updates daily.
@rambo88632 ай бұрын
It looks to me they began to run out of money and had to cut corners and raise the stakes
@Josh559072 ай бұрын
yes lmao
@KitKatze12 ай бұрын
You made me laugh so hard 🤣🤣
@francescoscarinci710928 күн бұрын
Nothing new, nor the investigation's results. Nothing! Losed time!
@SEOPOFFICIAL2 ай бұрын
The Naruto soundtrack was the very last thing I expected.
@tommyg48422 ай бұрын
*Chunin Exams PTSD kicks in*
@jessiesteele26752 ай бұрын
RIGHT! Lol I thought I had accidentally skipped to my music playlist
@Oddie990002 ай бұрын
26:50
@shadyomo36362 ай бұрын
Best part is that particular song is called "Bad Situation"
@fabryz2 ай бұрын
I was like "wtf I know this music... mmm I can't recall... Oh that's Naruto"
@parrsnipps3 ай бұрын
Man played Bioshock and said "I want that."
@wolpertingera58293 ай бұрын
Should have played Subnautica instead. He would have known then that you need to collect titanium in order to build a cyclops and not carbon fiber.
@sarahw76163 ай бұрын
Ha. Guy reminded me of BioShock too. His "dream" 😮
@sassycatenthusiast3 ай бұрын
@@wolpertingera5829 this comment is even more hilarious when you realise the Cyclops is named after the real life Cyclops sub made by OceanGate 😂 Like they even acknowledge the trademark in the games credits lol. (Commented this before it got the section about the fucking cyclops, goddamnit lol).
@wolpertingera58293 ай бұрын
@@sassycatenthusiast What the.....? I had no idea! 🤣Thanks for telling me this, I actually didn't read the end credits after I finished the game.
@spookyartistonyt3 ай бұрын
Water type Pokemon seeing the strange sub: 🤨
@hallamhal2 ай бұрын
"You are remembered for the rules you break" - Douglas MacArthur, a man Eisenhower was forced to fire to avoid WW3
@sneedchuck54772 ай бұрын
ironically enough it did make you remember him
@theanarchist75752 ай бұрын
It was Truman who fired Douglas MacArthur, not Eisenhower
@federicos80822 ай бұрын
Yeah, how you're going to be remembered it's the real point
@lighterflud2 ай бұрын
Turns out he forgot to add how likely that method is to make you be remembered as a dumbass
@dogsbecute2 ай бұрын
@@lighterflud nukes were still brand new when macarthur wanted to use them on the yalu river. i wouldnt say that makes him a dumb ass, he seemed more like a firebrand to me. We are lucky Truman and Eisenhower realized the awesome power of nukes and had the foresight to set a precedent for not using them willy nilly.
@0nerVus0Ай бұрын
Naruto soundtrack cought me offguard. LIKE
@DavoShed2 ай бұрын
I’ve always liked the aviation expression “There are old pilots and bold pilots but there are no old bold pilots” Guess that applies to submarine pilots as well.
@isabelleg91182 ай бұрын
And here I thought it was only about mushroom pickers..😅
@DavoShed2 ай бұрын
@@isabelleg9118 Took me a couple of seconds to get it
@ralphlamoglia7602 ай бұрын
Very true.
@DeffoZappo2 ай бұрын
That statement fits divers perfectly
@sloth48442 ай бұрын
where's the bold old pilots?
@chumorgan4433 ай бұрын
Ghosts of the Titanic: " I'm sick of the same faces down here... Oh good! , new arrivals.
@_Dark222Angel_3 ай бұрын
I just pictured the ghosts in historical outfits walking around the ship and Stockton is just there in chinos trying to explain carbon fibre to a scullery maid
@batshtcrazy52933 ай бұрын
@@_Dark222Angel_ 😂😂😂
@Sonworshipper2 ай бұрын
@@_Dark222Angel_😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I cannot
@AxisChurchDevotee2 ай бұрын
@@_Dark222Angel_ Sounds like a family guy cutaway gag.
@hydraliskin2 ай бұрын
"someone with a FRESH SOUL!"
@bhzaddybhzolby17052 ай бұрын
Imagine getting stick drift in the submarine
@nmlss-r92 ай бұрын
Don't worry they had a spare controller. But sadly not a second hull.
All the jokes aside, Stockton did ask one interesting question: "Could a carbon fibre hull work for depth diving." From an engineering and scientific perspective, this is an interesting question. It's just unfortunate that Rush and his team of cavalier cowboys, instead of a competent team of engineers and carbon fibre experts, took a swing at it. From what I've read, the carbon fibre winding that was used for the Titan hull was significantly weakened because of the single direction of the winding - it would have been stronger in a diamond pattern but that would have significantly increased cost (Stockton clearly was pennypinching) Hopefully some professionals take up this challenge and answer this question in the future
@nmlss-r92 ай бұрын
@@scroopynooperz9051 Not an expert afaik carbon fibre is really bad for this, no matter the shape it doesn't have the qualities that make metal good for subs. It's already an amazing material for other uses, leave it for those and make subs with titanium which is already good for this.
@Snickle_Snek21 күн бұрын
They partnered with Boeing? No wonder they went missing
@Observer1112 ай бұрын
I recall a news story about an experienced submariner, David Lochridge who was fired from Oceangate because he was concerned the Oceangate submarine was not safe to take to the extreme depths where the Titanic wreck sits. Not so ironically this disaster happened just as feared by Mr. Lochridge. There were a few law suits and counter suits back and forth between Oceangate and Mr. Lochridge. In the end the submarine itself settled the argument and failed as Mr. Lochridge feared would happen.
@FuckJesusChristUpsideDown9992 ай бұрын
Most satisfying "I told you so" ever.
@radicaledwards34492 ай бұрын
What happened to the law suits?
@happyengineer54272 ай бұрын
@@radicaledwards3449 "In the end the submarine itself settled the argument and failed as Mr. Lochridge feared would happen." The sub failed, so the former employee was 100% right. The lawsuit was dropped. On top of that, Oceangate ceased all operations since last year.
@cjboyo2 ай бұрын
@@radicaledwards3449truth is the ultimate defense against slander lawsuits