Philosophy Shows You Have an Immortal Soul (Aquinas 101)

[@Verhoefswords]

Thank you, Father! I'm not Catholic but you're helping me pass my Medieval philosophy class!

[@antoniomoyal]

Come home!

[@annepauline5241]

Come Home! You're most welcome in The Arms of The Catholic Church!

[@antoniomoyal]

@@annepauline5241 which is to say the body of Christ

[@displaychicken]

You’re not Catholic... yet...

[@janusg8680]

I always loved monks and the Middle Ages as a Protestant. Now I can appreciate Aquinas even more as I now am a Catholic. I thank God for that almost every day. May God bless and guide you.

[@byron8657]

Now I know that spirit is the rational soul and we have different spirit with the angels because our soul is in the body it has a form! Thanks Father more of this simple enlightening explanation! More Power Godspeed! K

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

That was not rational.

[@jerometaperman7102]

Enlightening? That was one huge load of doubletalk. 🙄

[@aiantenor9080]

Learned something new today. The difference of the soul and spirit in us and how we are different from animals and plant souls. I think not taking care of my soul may be one of the reasons why my body is in pain.

[@aiantenor9080]

Thank you Fr Brent for that clear and concise explanation.

[@Cleisthenes2]

This is why Aristotle says a dead person's hand is a hand only by a kind of analogy

[@lauzeladasse]

All this is a gif to me, God all bless you and your excellent Work, you teach so clear Father.

[@ThomisticInstitute]

It's our pleasure!

[@claymcdermott718]

It’s a gif to you, but it’s like a whole KZbin video to me. There must be something off with your computer. Haha

[@lauzeladasse]

@@claymcdermott718 right friend, hahaha, "Errare humanum est" thank you for your help, I'm not a native speaker, therefore I did my best effort. But I got the gift from you and also the TI. God Bless you.

[@robertvann7349]

@@ThomisticInstitute Your wrong, read my post and Debunk.

[@magdalenacuevas816]

Great videos! May God continue to bless the Thomistic Institute. Now is up to us to pass them on.

[@truthseeker321]

Wow...I struggled explaining what a soul is to my 6 year old daughter today. Thanks for this !!!

[@ThomisticInstitute]

Our pleasure! Thanks for watching, and may the Lord bless you!

[@st.mephisto8564]

Don't explain such an abstract and subtle concept to a 6 yr old

[@chocolateneko9912]

​@@electrical_cord Aesop's fables prove that you can give great wisdom to a child while doing the same to the adult without boring either. ☦️

[@electrical_cord]

@@chocolateneko9912 Can confirm. I read those all the time growing up.

[@chocolateneko9912]

@@electrical_cord I love Aesop's fables, the fox and the goose one is really good. "never trust flatterers"

[@L1011MD11]

Thank God for Saints Dominic and Thomas Aquinas and all the Dominicans who through their study and contemplation of the Divine truth are able to reach out to the laity so we can also able to understand and to know more about our Triune God so we can love more and glorify God.

[@ThomisticInstitute]

St. Thomas Aquinas, Pray for us!

[@L1011MD11]

@@ThomisticInstitute For this Lent, I should be binge watching Thomistic Institute YT videos instead of Netflix and other secular entertainment.

[@ThomisticInstitute]

@@L1011MD11 Amen. [Alleluia].

[@warren279]

@lary Snw There’s a difference between the dead and saints.

[@tan1591]

Yet none of this is taught or thought of in the original traditions of Jesus and the apostles.

[@maryjohnstone4777]

So lovely to watch these videos,thanks for this wonderful one ,so easily explained almost to keep up with !. Comforting too,in thinking about a loved one who has died.R.i.p.

[@julialopes5054]

The relationship between body and soul can even explain sickness as a consequence of disordered soul activity, since it’s the one that controls the body

[@chriscarty2308]

yeah thats if you completely ignore science.

[@jon6car]

@@chriscarty2308 edgy

[@YSLRD]

@@chriscarty2308 Ah, St. Science. A true scientist sees the magnitude of what he DOESN'T know.

[@penugemgamer341]

@@YSLRD Exactly what religion has never been able to do...

[@oscarcastell8164]

@@chriscarty2308 diferent topics Open your mind bro!

[@QuTeBug]

I thought I had a proper understanding of our "soul' now my head is spinning 🤯

[@grmalinda6251]

Soul is that part of us that seeks truth, beauty and goodness. No other creatures have this ability To my way of thinking.

[@Susan-vk6rj]

Très bon message. Mon père, je vous en remercie. J'ai réellement tout à apprendre sur ces explications dites catholiques, mais de ce que j'entends, cela me paraît très beau, très juste, et aussi très bon. Je viens de m'abonner à cette chaîne. Merci encore.

[@AnglandAlamehnaSwedish]

I died and came back before brain death n experienced many things with animals n ppl n no one had to open their mouths to speak n it was a continuous joy increase by flash seconds being greater n greater n I believe I have more authority to speak a out the soul than many others who are faithful to Christ

[@AnciAlatir]

This is hugely relevant when we think about how the human mind is different and superiort to A.I.

[@gavynabshire182]

I’m not catholic, but it was a joy to watch you work, Father

[@Revelation18-4]

The Spirit/Ruach/ Nephesh makes our heart beat. Genesis 2:7

[@TheScholarlyBaptist]

I adore your videos I am not catholic but I just love medieval scholasticism and theology. I greatly respect catholics and I am a Baptist so that is saying alot its not very common for low church denominations to be interested in medieval theology but that should change keep up the great work.

[@HG-ic8ks]

“You shall surely not die”

[@kirolotfy2687]

Thank you father I need this because I grew up with a concept of soul that didn't identify at all with consciousness or mind. It caused me great confusion when I heard all of these ideas about consciousness or the weirdest of them all cosmic consciousness.

[@D3nchanter]

don't worry, to a rational person, this doesn't make sense.

[@crusaderACR]

​@@D3nchanterCosmic consciousness and to speak of consciousness as something separate is indeed non-sensical. I've been studying about Buddhism and Hinduism and I see this as a strong sign of the incompleteness of their philosophy. They've perceived the same things as us, but they interpreted it wrong. I have a book to recommend, if you're interested. It connects these Dharmic ideas and conclusions and makes it patent. I forget the name though so tell me if you want it before I dig it up.

[@andrewheakes244]

​@@crusaderACRcould you tell me the title of this book? I came in to spirituality though the teaching of the east. I found my way to Catholicism but I have found myself wondering about the difference of my understandings.

[@mrman5066]

Oooohh this is interesting. This explains why we're able to try to comprehend & describe things like the 4th dimension or non-Euclidean geometry, even though we can never experience / sense them!

[@scripturalknowledge8835]

The Subject of the Immortal Soul - A Bible Examination - worth a view

[@jenniferCastellano927]

This is going to sound like dumb question but of our senses and perceptions are all related to organs then after death are we just completely deaf and blind until the resurrection? Will we be floating around in quiet nothingness without having senses. Or would we be able to perceive the spiritual world around us via spiritual senses? And if the angels are pure spirit without any bodies how are they able to watch over us and such? Are they deaf and blind too?

[@ThomisticInstitute]

That's not a dumb question. It's a very perceptive one. At death, the human person suffers the separation of body and soul. With the loss of the body, one loses the normal functioning of those powers that are seated in and circumscribed by bodily organs--that's everything except for intellect and will. So, in one sense, yes, after death we are deaf and blind. But in another we are not. Since intellect and will perdure, we can still think and choose which affords a vision and hearing of a sort. We still know and love what God gives us to know and love based upon our experience of life prior to death and our anticipation of things to come. In general, this shouldn't disturb us too terribly since God can neither be seen or heard and yet he can be known and loved. These powers are infinitely more substantial and constitutive of us as human persons. As for the angels, God gives them to know and love what pertains to their contemplation and ministration. So, they know us to that extent that they need to know us for the execution of God's purpose. They can also exercise influence in time and space according to said knowledge. So, here again, we needn't worry about sense deprivation. They are able to watch over us in a far thicker way than by mere eyes and ears.

[@_________________________7050]

@@ThomisticInstitute What a comforting answer, thankyou

[@donnaberube5480]

@@ThomisticInstitute Jesus can be heard....He is God

[@abcdidgh879]

Rebirth. As soon as you die.

[@butterflybeatles]

@@abcdidgh879 You die moment by moment. You are also re-born moment by moment.

[@byron8657]

As St Paul said on his Epistles I qoute Vain is our Faith if there’s no resurrection of the dead, to rephrase it Vain is our Faith if the soul spirit is not immortal! K

[@akostarkanyi825]

I think it is the notion of information that is very near to this kind of definition of the soul. Information is in DNA (organizing the body) and in such thought processes as knowing and loving. But what is information? Even scientists and contmporary philosophers cannot agree on it but they still use it as a natural basic notion. I think that it is quite similar to the notion of soul - being an essential organizing factor of the material world and still seemingly being somehow independent of it or "above" it. This latter problem is connected to the one of whether mathematics is something exixting in a "Platonian" world of ideals (an idea Roger Penrose supports, among others) or just a practical artifact of material processes of this world.

[@theronimisha]

This is a good video, good introduction.

[@gh0stly584]

So soul = life I dig it ! I want to see this guy and all the major religious 'leaders' at a debate table.... + Adam Miceli (look him up, very interesting)

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

Souls equal stuff made up by humans. Life does not need souls.

[@byron8657]

Mens Sano in Corpore Sana! A healthy mind in a healthy body! St Thomas Aquainas

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

Minds run on the brain, which is part of the body and ill health inherently effects it. That phrase did not come from Aquinas either. Wikipedia The phrase comes from Satire X of the Roman poet Juvenal (10.356). It is the first in a list of what is desirable in life:

[@jberninzon]

Excellent teachings if you can provide this knowledge in different languages like Spanish or Portugues. The Christianity world will be appreciate it very much with substitutes. Thanks and God bless you

[@terencemonteiro]

Portuguese subtitles are available if you click settings (gear)

[@bigbrownhouse6999]

These videos are like when you realize that salad can taste good

[@ThomisticInstitute]

Certainly one of the most striking compliments we've received. Thanks for watching!

[@changedlife1904]

Having a hard time with this one , im trying very hard to believe , its easier some days than others

[@porkc78nj19]

before St.Thomas Aquinas, what did we believe about the soul?

[@mauijttewaal]

Before Aquinas "we" didn't exist;)

[@MarkNeyer]

The “spiritual operations of the soul” as described here seem to line up with what a number of eastern religions call “awareness”. Texts like “Tantra Illuminated” by Christopher D Wallis outline a model that looks incredible similar to the thomistic model of body, emotion, intellect, mind, will, and heart. The overlap between these two suggests to me that, being independently developed in different places, these models are likely to be decent approximations of the truth.

[@ibndee9187]

well. thanks for the presentation. "

[@ThomisticInstitute]

Our pleasure!

[@roccocarlino067]

To understand the working of soul, one must seek Indian scripture teachings( Vedic, Bhagavad Gita, etc) because this is where Plato and other Greek philosophers took their teachings from. All teachings regarding the soul always is traced back to India.

[@justiniani3585]

I'm not sure if knowing is possible without organs. I probably wouldn't be able to calculate the area of a triangle if I got lobotomized or if I was born with anencephaly

[@ashleypuza6911]

The idea is that the soul uses the body and its senses/ experiences in order to know. The soul needs the body to know. The body needs the soul to make sense of its experiences. So you are right. If we can't experience the world around us, then we can not "know".

[@savvageorge]

The fundamental truth would still exist even if everybody on Earth was unaware of it.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Wikipedia: "In many religious and philosophical traditions, there is a belief of "an immaterial aspect or essence of a living being", generally applied to humans, called the soul. In lay terms the soul is the spiritual essence of a person, which includes our identity, personality, and memories that is believed to be able to survive our physical death." I am afraid your personal identity does not survive the death of the body regardless of what people may believe." My idea of a soul is the energy field that contracts into galaxies, clouds and living organisms and then expands into formless space. The so called individual is an energetic pattern that forms briefly as a body and then dissipates.

[@larryuk8630]

Thank you Father

[@ThomisticInstitute]

Thanks for watching! May the Lord bless you.

[@terencewinters2154]

Face the world with soul. By Sardello

[@christophersnedeker]

I'm not sure if animals can be characterized as wholly irrational.

[@matthewdimarcantonio4627]

This is fantastic. Brilliant mind

[@emmynoether5878]

I did nt realise he was a father and thought he was wearing a hoodie until i looked at the comments omg

[@pbmbuss]

Does the discovery of the DNA and the mechanisms of biochemistry and development biology somehow undermine this classical notion of the soul as the form of the body? Also, supposedly the higher functions of the soul - the rational part - could be related to the brain and the neo-frontal cortex. Do this new knowledge undermine or require a reconceptualization of the idea of the soul if we are to resist or avoid biological reductionism? Thank you

[@ertegi64366]

origin of beeing self consciousness is a real threat to materialism. neurological structure of organisms looks like complicated networks which process enviromental data and act accordingly. but there is no reason or for self consciousness. sure there is a correlation but yeah.

[@ertegi64366]

like we know all the events happening inside a neuron while humans activly thinking. but it is just corrolated always developing patterns of electrolytes across membranes really. self sensation and experience is biggest mystery of our time for sure.

[@omegaxx7777]

@@ertegi64366es we don’t fully understand it. I don’t see any reason to believe there’s anything more than a material brain, however; or if there is, it’s merely an emergent property of a human mind.

[@raykaelin]

Outstanding! In every sense!

[@paulanderson1614]

Matthew 10:28 NASB1995 Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. NASB1995: New American Standard Bible - NASB 1995

[@kristindreko3194]

Thank you for this video! May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you!

[@TashiDelek1]

When you were conceived, did God create your soul on the spot or did your soul come into existence just like your body, from your parents?

[@daily180]

Thank you!

[@suntzu7727]

Can you make a video on the Thomistic understanding of Free Will and perhaps respond to arguments against it?

[@ThomisticInstitute]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKYgWOha7WqmJY

[@annepauline5241]

@@ThomisticInstitute Father, can you (or have you) done a video about Heaven after the final Judgement? (I really think it would be us walking around with Jesus in a beautiful Kingdom. St. Thomas Aquinas said that in Heaven our bodies can fly as it is subject to the soul, are my thoughts similar to The Infallible Teachings of The Church?) Also somewhere in Scripture, we're told about "The New Heaven and NEW EARTH". So, does that mean no eternal happiness for us, but we have to come back to earth? May The Immaculate Heart be your Refuge!

[@ciscodealmeida8541]

YA ya i can see you guys are confused due to Aquinas. he had it wrong very wrong, i cant believe you guys can even try share this with us .

[@tommore3263]

Aquinas has the answer to our questions.

[@Enigmatic_philosopher]

The video offers a perspective on the concept of the soul largely grounded in the Aristotelian and Thomistic understanding of the soul as the form or principle of life of a living thing. This understanding is deeply embedded in the metaphysical and philosophical tradition of the Western world, particularly in the Catholic tradition. 1. **Dualism vs. Holistic Views of the Soul**: One critique of this viewpoint might come from the perspective of Cartesian dualism, where the soul and body are seen as fundamentally distinct entities, with the soul being the locus of thought and consciousness. This contrasts with the Thomistic view presented in the transcript, which speaks of a more holistic integration of soul and body, where the soul is not just our consciousness or thought life, but the very form of our bodies. From a dualist perspective, the video's insistence on the soul as the formative and animating principle of the body might seem to unduly reduce the soul to merely a physical or biological function. 2. **Materialist Viewpoints**: The video might also be critiqued from a materialist viewpoint, which denies the existence of non-physical substances such as souls. From this perspective, the discussion of souls as formative and animating principles might seem to be metaphysical speculation without empirical evidence. Materialists might argue that all of the functions attributed to the soul can be more parsimoniously explained by physical processes, such as the functioning of the nervous system and the brain. 3. **Eastern Philosophical Perspectives**: The video's perspective might also be critiqued from the viewpoint of Eastern philosophies, such as Buddhism, which posits a doctrine of 'anatman' or 'no-self', denying the existence of a permanent, unchanging soul or self. From this perspective, the video's assertion of the existence and importance of a soul might seem to be a form of clinging to a concept of selfhood that is ultimately illusory. 4. **Differences in Understanding of "Life Beyond Death"**: The video's discussion of life beyond death from a Thomistic perspective, where the soul is believed to survive death and continue its existence in a spiritual form, might be critiqued from the perspective of other religious or philosophical traditions with different understandings of life after death. For example, from the perspective of reincarnation as understood in Hinduism and Buddhism, the idea of a soul surviving death in a spiritual form might seem to be a partial or limited understanding of the ongoing cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. 5. **Rational Soul and Animals**: The video's discussion of humans as possessing a 'rational soul' or 'spirit' that distinguishes them from other living things might be critiqued from the viewpoint of more recent understandings of animal cognition. Increasing evidence of complex cognitive abilities in animals might challenge the traditional Aristotelian and Thomistic distinction between 'animal souls' and 'rational souls'. While the video presents a comprehensive and nuanced view of the soul from a Thomistic perspective, it leaves room for critique and discussion from various philosophical and religious viewpoints. The question of the nature of the soul is a deeply complex and multifaceted one, with a rich history of debate and divergence across different intellectual traditions.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

The question of the nature is due to it being made up claims based on no evidence at all. Its largely due to people knowing exactly nothing about how brains work and even less about biochemistry. Discussing things based on zero evidence and complete ignorance tends to engender complex nonsense. Without verifiable evidence for anything about souls, not even that they exist, its a tempest in a teapot. Rational souls is an oxymoron for without verifiable evidence, the belief in any kind of soul is irrational.

[@UHFStation1]

A soul or spirit of a person after death continues to contain their identity, memories, personality, etc? It is still them?

[@reyreyes6126]

the human soul is spiritual rather than spirit. A spirit is a complete incorporeal being while the human soul is an incomplete substance which requires a body to inform. Body and soul unite to form one complete living substance called man.

[@Paul-qr7hu]

How does DNA fit into this explanation? Thanks.

[@genekelly8467]

What about time? Humans perceive time as the succession of events. When you die, you cannot see, hear, touch or smell..so (logically) there could be no perception of time. Is this correct? As for perceiving non-material spirits-why would you be able to do this without senses?

[@1960taylor]

My dog demonstrates more intelligence and reason than most people I encounter.

[@basedzealot3680]

Replace the word intelligence with rationality. That’s what he means.

[@1960taylor]

@@basedzealot3680 that too..most people I know are not rational

[@basedzealot3680]

@@1960taylor it’s not that they aren’t rational, they just don’t use their rationality. Animal don’t have the capacity of rationality

[@marcokite]

your dog does not have any 'intelligence' or 'reason' in the way humans and angels do, the dog has instinct and can 'reason' (work things out) in a very limited way.

[@PirateRadioPodcasts]

KOINE Greek: EU-DAIMON-ia = HAPPINESS (or the good "demon" within).

[@garbojaxmcbruce9626]

Yet it appears now that both intellect and will can be altered by damages or alterations to the body.

[@mauijttewaal]

So you're saying that a robot that from a material viewpoint is indistinguishable from an animal could never function because it doesn't have a soul? I highly doubt that.

[@BaronAna]

Angels can at least hear, see and think. They can observe, listen and understand what humans do, that is why they are able to serve God and help us. Because they are spiritual, they are superior than human beings, capable of greater abilities, like the ones written in the Bible.

[@matthewdimarcantonio4627]

Can you do one on AGI?

[@banquo80s99]

This was so clearly explained....Thank you, Father.....Thanks from the Phils

[@GenXer82]

Thanks for the presentation! The "full body amputation" scenario is a great way to conceptualize what disembodiment is like. Interestingly, it only started feeling weird once the head disappeared! Perhaps, the "head" is the actual person, or the spirit is the form of the head...something to ponder about...🤔

[@Seanph25]

Probably cause that where most of your sensory capabilities are. Like if the ears eyes nose and mouth, were say, on your hand, that would now be the center of your experience. As such in that case you’d likely be able to imagine perfectly not having a head, even if that’s still where the brain was, because as far as your experience of the world is concerned, the hand would be where “you” are. If that makes any sense.

[@Hulkmosher]

A soul doesn't exist without a body,Genesis says God breathed into Adams nostrils and he became a living soul,doesn't say the soul was placed into man

[@williamcrowley9156]

Great review!!!!!

[@godfreydebouillon8807]

I'm not a Catholic, but super fascinating. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this answers my question as to why, as it pertains to The Argument From Motion, a human can sit in a chair and decide to get up but a book can't (I know that the change argument doesn't pertain to the accidental series of causes of getting up, but I'm referring to the snap shots of changes that could be viewed at each point in the event)? I'm new to this, but I think even starting to understand formal causes can change the way a person sees the entire world.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

A book cannot make decisions because it has no brain to make them with. This a complete tempest in a teapot about souls based on exactly zero evidence and just nonsense that people made up. People that knew nothing about brains or biochemistry.

[@Zanroff]

It's a little confusing. Isn't the ability to know something of all triangles also altered by a head injury? I think this explanation is close, but there's something missing and I don't know what it is.

[@lassejensen1552]

Well, personally i think this video should have been named: "A philosopher thought that you have an immortal soul" or something to that effect.

[@bryansmith7758]

ok, does this mean if i lose my leg in a car accident, my soul has been injured? if not, what's wrong with that statement.

[@georgebush6002]

Knowing and loving (and other emotional judgments) seem like a reasonable way to define a soul, but there is no reason to conclude this is not a biological function. Just because a soul has been defined does not mean every property that has been attributed to it should be accepted as a premise.

[@alphazero5614]

Biological processes certainly facilitate cognition and emotion, but they are not self-explanatory. There must be an overarching formal and final cause of a living being's organized unity and teleology. A soul is not a premise but a conclusion reached through philosophical argument - e.g. the need for a subsistent, immaterial principle to actualize prime matter into a self-aware, rational subject. Empirically, we experience ourselves as unified subjects of mental acts and free choices - not just bodies. And reason and will transcend mechanism.

[@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv]

@@alphazero5614 > There must be an overarching formal and final cause No, life is messy and nothing in it is formal. Your wanting it does not constitute a requirement of life.

[@yousufnazir8141]

Philosophy of science and religion is explained in the form of body, soul and the spirit of human body.

[@D3nchanter]

trust me, science was nowhere to be found in this video

[@Gwido7]

Thank you. I am a catholic.

[@CBPMOON1]

Matthew 10:28, KJV: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. The soul is not immortal. Revolution 21:8 speaks of a second death when hades is thrown into the lake of fire. Also why do you think the tree of life is guarded? Gen 3:22The LORD God said, ‘The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever’”

[@donew1thita11]

@lary Snw what happens at the lake of fire ,are lost soulds just "erased "

[@monajeffers6399]

Read,Ezekiel 18:20, say’s the soul can die.

[@wierdpocket]

Re: Knowledge: Isn't knowledge stored in a physical part of the brain? If damage is done to someone's brain, he may forget the formula for finding the area of the triangle. How then is knowledge spiritual?

[@mauijttewaal]

Good question

[@legron121]

Knowledge is stored in the passive intellect, a nonmaterial power. When the brain is damaged, the imagination is impeded and therefore one is unable to consider that which he has previously understood. "From experience it is clear that he who has already acquired intelligible knowledge through intellectual appearances, is not able actually to consider the knowledge he has unless some phantasm comes to mind. And this is why injury to the organ of imagination impedes a man not only in newly understanding something, but also in considering that which he has previously understood, as is clear in the mad.” - St. Thomas Aquinas.

[@el34glo59]

I also looked at the brain as hardware, and consciousness as software. Although I'm not religious

[@savvageorge]

Knowledge is just an understanding of truth. The truth is discovered, not created. It exists independantly of humans.

[@_________________________7050]

Thank you so much

[@clairfayne]

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[@flyingdutchman3860]

I am very happy this channel exists. I am glad that in discerning what is not the soul I have come to the same conclusions and Aquinas. I have wondered therefore in death what kind of perception we have? We have no memory and no senses, since we have no body. Does this mean we cannot remember our life and the people we love? I had assumed that vanilla human souls separated from their body without any external help float around in blackness totally unaware, however through the grace of God we are given experiences and memory etc. so that we can perceive. These spiritual operations such as loving and knowing seem to function together with the body as well. That means without the body they are incomplete. My memory can help me know. Like if we look at the triangle example you gave. To discover anything abstract about triangles in general, I first need to encounter a triangle through perception (and I need to remember it). If I get hit in the head and lose my memory (as you put it) I become less capable to reason about triangles, just because I have less data to work with. So I get this feeling that without the body we may still have these spiritual faculties, but we are no longer able to use them as fully as when we did have a body.

[@flyingdutchman3860]

@lary Snw Protestant?

[@flyingdutchman3860]

@lary Snw That happens to be what a protestant would answer to that question. When we accept that authority of the bible we accept the authority of the descendants of the apostles (Bishops), who are responsible for deciding which books to put into the bible. These Bishops were given authority by their predecessors, the apostles, who were given authority by the incarnate God. So when we accept the authority of the bible we also accept, whether we want to or not, the authority of the Catholic Church. When accepting the bible we automatically believe that God works through the holy apostolic catholic church.

[@flyingdutchman3860]

@lary Snw Given that God picked Judas to be one of the original twelve, I don't think corruption and the presence of sin in the Church of God are a valid argument against its legitimacy. As for your citation. It has nothing to do with what is and what isn't Canon. It gives criteria as to which works can be trusted in a time before the bible existed. The bible was made based on these criteria, by Catholic bishops. The church was established by Jesus. For example in the Gospel of Matthew we hear: "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it." Pentecost gives us additional faith in Jesus latter promise, the church is lead by the holy spirit, therefore the gates of Hades will not overcome it. The primacy of Peter over this church (now called pope) is further confirmed throughout the Acts of the Apostles. Peter was the great tiebreaker (as the pope is today). The apostle Paul, whom you cite, is confirmed as apostle by none other than the apostle Peter. Each apostle including Peter has a series of successors, called bishops. In the Gospel of Mark Jesus commands that the apostles go out into the world to share the good news, thereby establishing the mission of the church. In a few Gospel texts (lets use Luke), Jesus establishes another task of the church: the holy mass, taking the bread and saying "This is my body, which will be given for you. Do this in memory of me."

[@crusaderACR]

​@@flyingdutchman3860I believe that when Jesus talked about giving life and resurrection, He might have meant just that. To restore our souls into a body, so to speak. Though perhaps a different type of body. Hell, instead, would be tossed aside, being left in the darkness. Incomplete, without God's aid.

[@reyreyes6126]

Is the human soul, immortal? What is spiritual is immortal, but the human soul is spiritual. Ergo, the human soul is immortal. Minor: the human soul is spiritual because it can subsist and perform some operations which do not require body organs like intellection (to understand, form judgment, and to reason which in their exercise do not use any body organ.) The human soul has vegetative, sensitive and intellectual powers. In the exercise of the vegetative and sensitive powers like nutrition, grown and reproductive powers (vegetative), and seeing, hearing, etc. powers (sensitive) the human soul needs body organs. However, the intellectual and free choice---the soul acts without any bodily organ otherwise, the brain for instance is incapable of abstraction. Now, if the human soul can perform spiritual operations thus it is spiritual because of the principle: agere sequitur esse, a thing operates or acts according to its nature. But what is spiritual is immortal, because what is independent of the body cannot corrupt like a body.

[@fr.hughmackenzie5900]

only problem is animals do behave as if they grasp universal-species concepts. E.g. Cat is not too concerned which bird it chases, but is concerned with bird-ness

[@kiwihans100]

Paul said "Beware lest any man spoil you through the PHILOSOPHY and vain deceit., after the tradition of Men" ( Col 2:7)

[@crusaderACR]

Learning about God through reason and study is good though. Ask yourself this question: Why were we given the Bible? Why were we given this magnificent book full of insights and teachings, so often beyond just salvation history? And then ask: Why were we given Reason? I think the answer is that God wants us to know Him. The study of Sacred Scripture is one way, but the Bible makes it clear many times that God can be known through reason as well. We thus apply both for this divine enterprise, which we hope will please the Father. Peace be with you, brother.

[@kiwihans100]

@@crusaderACR God gave us indeed the power of reasoning! Paul told the Romans to "serve God with your power of reason" Rom 12:1. This means that blind obedience is not the same as enlightened worship. However the bible also warns against "False reasonings" ( Jas 1:22. 2 Cor 10:5). Reasoning on the scriptures is different to interpreting them with philosophy, which became the norm within the hellenist world of greek philosophy that the majority of the 'church fathers' were schooled in. Mostly, they grew up and studied in this environment and after conversion to 'christianity' made the error of trying to combine and even explain the NT through philosophy. If you just read their essays and letters this should become obvious to any 'reasonable' student! Paul also advised us "Not to go beyond the things written" ( 1 Cor 4:5) Which sadly many theologians did. Footnote; The greek concept of LOGOS was NOT the same as the 'Word' of the apostle John! The greeks believed that LOGOS was 'universal reason' whereas John was merely using the title as one of his descriptions of a PERSON, namely the Son of God, whom he also called the 'true vine', the lamb of God' 'The door' & the 'way'. This misconception contributed greatly to assuming that since 'reason' has been the Father's possession eternally, thus the 'Word' must be God himself, yet an honest look at John chapter 1 show us that John himself, after verse 1, explained WHO the word really was at verse 14 "The Word became flesh and we had a view of his glory, the glory of an... ONLY BEGOTTEN SON FROM A FATHER". So plain and resonable! So then the ' Word is not 'God himself' for as verse 18 shows "No one HAS SEEN GOD at any time!. Yet John and his fellow apostles DID 'see' Jesus' with their on eyes!. This is correct resoning! NOT philosophy and interlectual reasoning but accepting truth as inspired truths are revaled to us.

[@filhodehenoc]

What does thomistic institute think about the NDE phenomena? Is it one more confirmation that we have immortal souls?

[@kiwihans100]

'Google' SOUL; The early Hebrews apparently had a concept of the soul but did not separate it from the body, although later Jewish writers developed the idea of the soul further. Biblical references to the soul are related to the concept of breath and establish no distinction between the ethereal soul and the corporeal body. Christian concepts of a body-soul dichotomy originated with the ancient Greeks and were introduced into Christian theology at an early date by St. Gregory of Nyssa and by St. Augustine.

[@markjardinez5602]

Truth. The original Jewish concept of soul is the whole being. No separate immortal soul after death. The soul is the the human being. If he dies, then there is no soul, just a corpse. death is just the reverse of how God created man. No consciousness before he was created, and is the same if he dies. Immortality of the soul is a pagan concept. Christians who believe in this are deceiving themselves. If there is immortality of the soul, then there is no need for the resurrection day that is written in the Bible, as the soul is eternally alive. The immortality of the soul also backs the concept of eternal punishment of the wicked ones in hell. Which is contrary to the character of a merciful and lovingl God. Would God then be pleased seeing how His creation suffering and crying for eternity? God is not even pleased for just one soul to perish without repenting of his sins. That is why God in His mercy even for these wicked people, will end their miserable lives once and for all in that judgment day. Their consciousness will no longer exist as though they were never born.

[@kiwihans100]

@@markjardinez5602 Good comment! | agree with all you say! So where do you stand on the true faith?

[@markjardinez5602]

@@kiwihans100 I stand on what is written or what God has explicitly stated in His Word and the Testimony of Christ.

[@kiwihans100]

@@markjardinez5602 Yes Paul advised "Do not go beyond the things that are written" ( 1 Cor 4:5) The Jews allowed their 'traditions' to nullify the 'word of God' ( Mat 15) Just like the 'christian philosophers' did about Jesus e.t.c.!

[@Deity333]

Im the Immortal soul

[@catholicdoomer]

What a great explanation! Thank you!

[@ThomisticInstitute]

You're most welcome! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. May the Lord bless you!

[@kiwihans100]

Paul said that God the Father is "The one ALONE having immortalitiy" That is he CANNOT die! Yet Jesus DID "Die and was buried and rose again on the third day" ( as the scriptures frequently say!). Yet for his faithful course he was GIFTED immortality at his resurrection! He stated "As the Father has life in himself ( immortality) HE HAS GIFTED ( Greek 'edoken' to 'give' to 'grant') that the SON SHALL HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF". (John 5:26) Paul also shows that we DONt have an 'immortal sou'' but "This mortal will PUT ON immortaliy" 1 Cor 15|: 53,54.

[@roccocarlino067]

* Soul Made Simple * I am a soul, a point of light/energy, incorporeal, bodiless, endless, genderless, nameless The soul resides in the middle of the forehead (the third eye) The main faculties of the soul are - Mind, Intellect, Subconscious Mind (Memories, habits, impressions) The combination of these faculties determines the soul's (our) Personality The Original qualities (virtues) of the soul are - Purity, Peace, Love, Humility, Happiness... Its enemy, the vices - Ego, Lust, Attachment, Anger, Greed... A body without a soul is a corpse.

[@Enya111Bayting-pz2zv]

Why attachment is an enemy

[@roccocarlino067]

@@Enya111Bayting-pz2zv Because it causes sorrow when something you're attached to is taken away. A soul comes alone and leaves alone, it has no previous attachments. Attachment is a subtle yet cruel vice.

[@Enya111Bayting-pz2zv]

@@roccocarlino067 thank you very much...but I would like to tell you one thing ..my grandpa said..that souls have soulmate...and if this soulmate finds each other they become one

[@Enya111Bayting-pz2zv]

If the soul is the third eye...subconscious..or our intellect... I am thinking about seeing things..then my mind calculate every behaviour of it...and it really happens...then how could use it for a purpose to stop those bad thing and protect others or the one I love?

[@Enya111Bayting-pz2zv]

I have a purpose ...to travel back in the time of Jesus to depend his rights..but my present identity is not the one who travel...i want it to be my secret ...the power to travel I'm using are my sins. I am very glad at you for all the answers

[@courier3389]

The ending of this kinda freaked me out lol. Can someone point me to what the “resurrection of the body” means and what Catholics say happens to the soul right upon death?

[@anneschofield9726]

Beautiful to know

[@MT-2020]

Oh you are special... :) I felt thirsty until I found you and all the friars here in YT...

[@TroglodyteDiner]

As my own body decays, the Resurrection of the Flesh is a dogma I have increasing difficulty with. To begin with, what body? And do we get our bodies back just because He got His? Taking her cue from Aristotle, Shakespeare's Last Pagan, Cleopatra, says "I am fire and air/My other elements I commit to base nature". That doesn't sound bad to me. I'm no Hindu/Buddhist. I think that immortality without an intact ego is BS. I mean, what's the point? But why would I want my mutable flesh?

[@no42arak-st-floor44]

How the Lord We'll give us the ability to find soul of our beloved ones, As my recently departed wife after 40 years, as she left so unexpextedly as her nurses and doctors neglected her! once I depart from this earthly life, will I be able to be with her & see her? What literature text or facts do you have to demonstrate that? 😥

[@jlad225]

Take Courage, brother! "I have told you this so that you might have peace in me. In the world you will have trouble, but take courage, I have conquered the world.” - John 16:33 "When the poor man died, he was carried away by angels to the bosom of Abraham." - Luke 16:22 Your guardian angel meets you and leads you home. "So we are always courageous, although we know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yet we are courageous, and we would rather leave the body and go home to the Lord. Therefore, we aspire to please him, whether we are at home or away. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive recompense, according to what he did in the body, whether good or evil." - 2 Cor 5:6-10 We meet Jesus who we see, recognize and worship with the eyes of faith. Luke 16:19-31 shows that you are conscious. You think, feel, speak, and remember. Revelation 4-5 shows that we worship with the angels before the throne of God. Luke 9:28-36 shows that we will know, recognize, and communicate with the other souls in heaven.

[@no42arak-st-floor44]

@@jlad225 I shall remain thankful for the passages sited...feel free to provide additional, especially as to where the holy scripture Provide glimpse of hope that received our loved one at the time before departure as well! The Lord's Blessings!

[@xaviervelascosuarez]

Isn't the separate soul in need of an essence? Is it possible that the human essence is meant to be the conjunction of a living human body with a unique essence of an individual human soul, an essence that is unique and not shared like the human essence is shared, but like the angels who don't share essence? If separated human souls don't have an essence, what does set the limits to their being and what differentiates one soul from the other? Could it be that the human essence is collective, in a sense, like the divine essence? In what way? In the way that is a relational essence that can only materialize and be shared by "relational substances." Isn't the human essence-that is, humanity-, after all, both male and female, and doesn't it materialize into separate complementary substances called to exist in a generative relationship of love? Isn't this kind of in the way that the divine essence can only be shared by relational individuations that cannot but exist in unity of substance?

[@dimitriusjulius497]

So.... SOUL = DNA! According to your description Thanks!

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

Plants and Animals have sense and thought, and anyone with a dog can tell you how dogs have dreams, run in their dreams, bark in their dreams, even wag their tails, in their dreams. Dreams are observable proof of cognition, and a subjective state of self, experiencing reality, even while asleep. You spent 10 minutes talking about Anima and Spirit, but Never mentioned SOUL. The SOUL is the 5+ dimensional Life-Pattern Etched into time-space by your Anima. When people die, the anima departs the body, but the SOUL is eternal = it's past history is permanent. It's actions and effects on reality, physical objects, people and other souls are FOREVER. You spent 10 minutes talking about the ink in the pen, how the ink flows out of the pen, and how the pen is empty... But the SOUL is the poetry written by the pen. This is why maintaining a healthy Soul is very important spiritually. The Body is the pen, the anima actions are the ink, but the poetry is the soul. In ALL the universe, each soul is unique, eternal, and dynamic. Some souls are so vibrant and strong, they leave a lasting impression upon everyone that meets them. Good souls broadcast goodness like ripples in the pond, and damaged or fallen souls so to spread their harm through the crimes and violence they create. When meditating upon the nature of the soul, focus on that which lasts forever after the body and spirit anima are both gone. Reflect on the greatest souls you know: Christ, Abraham Lincoln, Your own family members that changed your very existence by bringing you into this world ! Souls creating Souls, each individually unique and forever eternal.

[@62peppe62]

As rational catholics, how can we argue against the objection that Aquinas and Aristotel didn't know modern neurology that compare our brain to a very sophisticated computer and suggests that also knowledge and love can be the outcome of the function of the brain?

[@alphazero5614]

A common objection from those enamored with modern scientism and its reductionist tendencies. While modern neuroscience has illuminated much about the physical workings of the brain, it in no way disproves or undermines the metaphysical analysis of intellect and will developed by catholic scholastics. The brain is merely the organ of cognition, not its cause. The intellect is an immaterial, spiritual faculty capable of abstract, universal knowledge - something no physical system could achieve on its own. The brain is an instrument used by the intellect and will to operate in the physical world, not their ontological source. Knowledge and love, as acts of immaterial powers, transcend any purely physical explanation. Neuroscience describes brain states and processes correlated with cognition, not the essence of cognition itself. There is an irreducible gap between brain activity and mental experience which no amount of empirical data can bridge. While modern science illuminates the physical antecedents and concomitants of intellect and will, it tells us nothing of their formal, final, and efficient causes residing in the spiritual realm. The human person is a composite of body and soul - to reduce them to only the physical is to fall prey to the errors of hylomorphism.

[@abdullahamir4213]

Thanks father but I hope you add Arabian language to caption ❤❤❤

[@Revelation18-4]

We who are mortal, must put on immortality. We are not immortal ! 1 Corinthians 15:53-55

[@_Dovar_]

Human soul is immortal, because it's immaterial - energy cannot be destroyed.

[@delsydebothom3544]

The human soul isn't energy, either; what we call energy is just matter in a particular state. The soul is a *form*. It is joined to matter, but is not itself matter.

[@tomdaniels6868]

Quaint.

[@franzcalipusan3367]

Forgive me but this is confusing