ADHD vs Autism #2 Differences & Similarities in my Traits

[@MartianGirl347]

These past 2 videos of yours have brought me to tears. Not in a bad way, of course, but because someone finally gets it… and can explain it much better than I can! It definitely helps with self-acceptance. I really appreciate your videos :)

[@KendraMorana]

I cried too! Omg it's so amazing such a relief. I was diagnosed adhd & asd last June at 39 years old. I am now 40. I posted your/her videos on my personal Facebook because it's there for anyone to see and research and bring it out there and stop.the stigma

[@tomaskey6844]

I agree. It’s sad and comforting to know others are experiencing the same thing.

[@bethanythatsme]

Very much same 💜

[@lizhyink5636]

@@KendraMorana Yeah, similar timespan of living undiagnosed here. (Though I only got assessed for ADHD last year, I realize now I should've asked for a a two-fer/ 2-for-1 deal : ) I had sought a diagnosis for ADD at 18, but got something else. Though I am aware it is possible to have multiple conditions, without clear data, it can be difficult to be sure of one doctor's take on something. Sara Fay's book, Pathological: My Six Misdiagnoses, was discussed on an NPR show, "The 1 A". She makes a fair point about overlapping symptoms and how they can be misread by people. What I think confuses the process is the existence of emotional dysregulation in the mix of parts to consider and interpret as a whole. Someday, biological diagnostics might help people get more accurate news, sooner. As a congenital heart condition patient who experienced surgery within the first year of life and again at 5, I learned only recently that there might be either a genetic co-occurrence, and/or cause-and-effect for neurodivergence. The theory about neurodevelopmental changes was explained to me by a cardiologist as due to slowing circulation during surgery, AND I think it might also be connected to a secondary heart condition I have, dextrocardia, which is how my body has always been. As a completely untrained, curious person, I wonder if the recent study written about by Beth Ellwood in, "Psy Post" ,about the pattern of high connectivity in the right anterior region of the brain found in people who have ASD traits. This dextrocardia-circulation idea may not be relevant. Good to continue learning, though, even if it's belated timing for information or a possible detour. At least we might learn what isn't a factor.

[@Audreyperson37]

I love the point you made about growing out of ADHD, and learning to cope and mask. I had a point where I was scared along my treatment program, that if I was able to manage my ADHD it would mean I did not have it anymore (because of that myth) and expressed that to my therapist. And she made a good point, that you build up accommodations and supports for yourself, but if you took those away you’d be struggling a lot again & that really put it into perspective. Like, even the accommodations and coping mechanisms take so much time out of the day to do, that other people don’t always see

[@sam73322]

To anyone who struggles with interrupting people bc they won’t be able to remember later or bc of impulsivity: I have found that neurotypical people will get less mad if you bring the conversation back to them after interrupting them! Saying something like “…yeah just as a side note - you were saying?” after you stated your thoughts will usually make them feel less unheard and talked over. If you do that honestly I think interruption can also be seen as a sign of active participation since the other person still gets to voice their thoughts.

[@Couturenails_by_kayla]

I’m not diagnosed, but I’ve been doing a lot of research and I feel that something is there. I relate to you a lot on both ADHD and ASD. Just within the past couple of years I’ve realized a lot of these things about myself.

[@heedmydemands]

Yeah same boat

[@possibly12]

Object permanency is a myth for ADHD, and leads to others infantalizing us. It is a working memory issue we are struggling with - object permanency is not the same as forgetting items are there.

[@ThyFloorestFloor]

This, in ADHD from my understanding people don't stop being aware that something exists, their minds are just so overwhelmed with other thoughts that they can't pay any attention to it.

[@IshtarNike]

This is a pedantic point in my opinion. I'm not sure if the people using this term genuinely think that this is a lack of object permanence. It's just a pithy and fancy way of saying "I easily forget about things when they aren't immediately to hand."

[@bethanythatsme]

I also had to seek a second opinion when I strongly disagreed with a BPD diagnosis. I similarly ended up with a specialist who changed my life by taking me seriously & validating the deep dive I have done into ND research. I wonder how many of us have color coded notebooks of symptoms 💜

[@Maria7Maria]

Late to this comment but I’m going through this exact thing right now, it’s so hard but I’m pushing through and have also luckily found an incredibly understanding therapist, she told me she thought I might have both ASD and ADHD instead before I even brought it up

[@Juststudiothings]

Same exact experience. I'm still looking for that specialist though

[@kirstinpilling2638]

​@achromatic_yam are you in the UK?

[@missjannd]

What is ND?

[@kirstinpilling2638]

@@missjannd Neuro diverse

[@aminadrury1415]

Such a great series. I found this one the most helpful yet. I few months ago I never would have considered having ADHD or Autism because from the outside I am steady and relaxed to people that don't know me. However on the inside I'm a walking ball of anxiety half the time and a bomb of wild energy the other half. My ADHD is always fighting my autism but I love how you put that your autism is parenting your adhd. Such a sweet way to look at it. I both love and hate being the way I am but I don't think I'd change it if I could because it makes me me!! Thanks again for your knowledge ❤️

[@YourCharmingStory]

I USED TO PULL OUT MY EYELASHES TOO! Wait, I still do sometimes. They don’t grow right. So many helpful things in this video that you put into words for me. Thank you girl!

[@rosejasminegwyn-willis824]

It's so interesting I've compared my (potential) autism to water and adhd to fire. And even before realizing I (probably) had those I felt like there were two sides of me. Even at personality test types I'd be stuck between two . ENTP and INTP, enneagram 7 or enneagram 5. I didn't realize why this was happening but now I think I know

[@gypsileydi6412]

In my experience, the hyperactivity just turns into anxiety when we become adults😅

[@lailarose4418]

fr

[@julialedra]

As someone who is now finding out I might be autistic and have ADHD I am loving your videos. You explain thing so well and go into a lot of detail - I love it! Also, as a crocheter, I couldnt' help but notice your cardigan, it's so pretty 😍😍

[@sabba1365]

youve done so much work assessing yourself and analyzing where your behaviors come from, the way that you are able to so plainly articulate and display how adhd and autism intermingle and make up your daily life experience (in the same way that a lot of Our adhd and autism intermingles) is such a treasure. its objective, its understandable, its enlightening. thank you for putting the effort that you put into these videos. were all blessed to have them as a resource.

[@JoULove]

This was a really good breakdown, thank you. Learning more about it I think I do have both autism and adhd, the issue with object permanence hit really hard 😭 people always tell me I'm lazy for not keeping things tidy but it makes sense to me

[@sarahstudies8149]

These videos are great and I can listen to a whole long video which is unusual for me! I think it’s the combination of topic, your voice, the way you explain things and the backing track. So relaxing to listen to. I have ADHD but am on a waiting list for ASD. At the time I was assessed for ADHD I filled out an AQ10 form and only got 3/10 so wasn’t referred but I was also answering the questions based on my own perception of what I thought autism was based on 2 cousins who have high support needs. I also have social anxiety and childhood trauma (that I have done a lot of work on with a therapist). If you decide to make any more of these it would be great to know differences between these and ASD as well.

[@thethoughtspot222]

Hi! Yes I want to make a video about PTSD & ASD ☺️ thanks for watching~

[@quijybojanklebits8750]

My biggest problem is, like you described, haveing severe adhd and autistic traits(eye contact is weird and unsustainable), i have many sensory issues as well, i have problems with functioning as an adult, im 36 and have little experience in really caring for myself. I fail at paying bills because i get cought up in random obsesions. Im extremely intelligent and it sounds like a boast but i was iq tested in middle school because of my aptitude and my lack of motivation. I scored a 145, im a genius with an inability to act or plan. The biggest challenge is the emotional dysregulation and the feelings of failure. I even speak several languages and am self taught yet am dyslexia as well.

[@DCamp1271]

What sucks is having the potential but not being able to fully execute on it.

[@the_earth_mystic]

I can really relate to the say it or forget it thing. I need a notetaker for my brain. Because the thoughts are important! I get so frustrated when I forget, so I've always gotten good at the mental notetaking as well. It's easier when talking to another neurodivergent person, because they understand and also think that way :)

[@beanie-dog]

i'm loving this series sm i relate a lot to the autistic side and specially the part of repressing stims, i knew i had to stay still but what i would do as a kid is lock myself in the bathroom to do these "repetitive movements" (that now i know is stimming) and just..never questioned why i did it, and that repressing would also turn into me biting my nails and the inside of my mouth etc but i didn't make that connection until u mentioned it in the video thank you jsdfjhsd

[@ellenschrader7971]

Love this series and your drawings/animations are stunning! I always leave your videos feeling very calm and content because somebody finally understands me. ✨ Also, just wanted to let you know that even though I don't leave a comment under every video because I find it overwhelming, I love them all and appreciate your work so much. Lots of love from the Netherlands 💕

[@thethoughtspot222]

I appreciate your comment then☺️

[@SpikeyKat]

Watching these two videos so far has solidified that I'm most likely dealing with ADHD. I relate a ton with the ADHD symptoms and have really been struggling with my mental health because I have no idea how to get my life together. I only just learned what executive dysfunction is and can feel like, and all of this has been super eye opening. I've suspected for a couple years now that I have something going on and have watched tons of videos about it. Yours has been the most detailed and helpful though!

[@Alice_Walker]

I'm finding these asd v adhd videos so interesting. After making accommodations for my asd I am starting to suspect that I might have adhd as well. The amount of mental friction I experience in getting things done and my ability to manage my time is getting worse rather better and I suspect it's because I have less anxiety to drive me now I'm managing my asd better. I really enjoyed that you described the social interaction as like driving a manual car, that's kind of how I explain my experience of it too. I remember when I first started driving that there was sooooo much to concentrate on; gears, clutch, indicators, mirrors, watching and predicting the road, how fast am I going, Street signs etc etc but now most of the driving happens automatically and all those components involved in turning a corner feel mostly like one smooth motion. Conversations with people I don't know well for me are ALWAYS like the first time driving. I have to concentrate on EVERY aspect 💜

[@riiivvaaaponddd]

Wow. You have seriously helped me to self realise who I am, Irene. Thank you so much for your fierce honesty, well researched knowledge (that you explain so clearly), self reflections & insights! I always knew deep down... & now I can finally say with pride that I am Audhd adult. After my first major burn out with depression when I was 18, I had a spirtual awakening afterwards that lead me to my purpose of becoming a healer. As I got myself through the toughest times in my life, I felt an overwhelming motivation to help others and so I started to study Counselling & Psychotherapy at University. However, I did not know then about my Audhd. I thought I just had anxiety & depression (which I did; but it was much more than that😅) (Cptsd also from my experience constantly being denied/misunderstood: misdiagnosed e.u.p.d which is the same as bpd). So I continued to push myself as psychology/wellbeing/healing is my on going special interest & thus I had all the natural skills but I couldn't understand why I had to keep falling & falling into depressions whilst everyone around me would still struggle, ofc, but still keep going: unlike me?!?! (burn outs with depression). My lecturers at Uni noticed that I could no longer handle the pressure of my uni work load, my two counselling placements and working part-time as a mental health/neurodevelopmental support worker (so ironic that I was the one feeling overly responsible for everyone else when it was me who seriously needed the support) told me that I needed to take a break. Break after break after break, they had to stop me from practicing. I fought and fought with them to let me continue (do not get in the way of my special interest!!😅) but ofc the power imbalance and their duty to protect me and my clients, lead to the end of my training. They still let me finish my degree with a 1:1 in Counselling & Psychotherapy: Theoretical Studies. With half of my hours complete, they told me to come back when I was ready to complete my qualification. Four years later here I am after hyperfocusing on Adhd & Autism (for a number of months now in my latest hermit phase) by watching your channel and others, I feel that purpose again. I am ready. I know who I am now. I cannot thank you enough, Irene, for inspiring me to start my own KZbin to help others like ourselves to know themselves and end the relentless pressure we would put on ourselves! There is no more need for that. 💗

[@riiivvaaaponddd]

Aaaaah just remembered when you made the connections: Autism = earth sign & ADHD = air sign. I WTF'D SO HARD: I was born on the 22nd September on the cusp of Virgo (earth) and Libra (air)!!!!. It never felt right when people would call me a Virgo until I realised my full natal chart (so much in libra) and that being on the cusp is a thing! I really do need my Virgo to ground me! Thank you so much for this: brilliant🙌🙌🙌

[@vazzaroth]

Love the talk about your mind and concepts and layers and metaphors. That is basically my lifeblood and agree, in my own way, with what you're saying and it's so frustrating to hear "Oh autism and ND can only think literally" when, like you said, a common ADHD+Aut experience is being TOO non-literal, too metaphorical, and too 'concept' focused. No wonder you are also into MBTI since that's the only type of place I've EVER heard this type of discussion. People seem so discouraged from talking about (or even looking maybe?) inside their minds and seeking to understand it. If I could watch only content like this all day, I would!

[@kriswalker3275]

I love the bird noises in the background! That's a good and happy stim for me. That's one thing I like about my apartment because even though I live in the city with a lot of stressors during the summer there's a lot of birds by my windows and it's so soothing for me. I hate when it's so hot I have to close my windows for the AC.

[@613.]

The thinking you have narcolepsy thing omg i had no idea other people experienced that! This entire video is eye opening

[@sophieliu4726]

Thank you Irene for creating such a beautiful video. I've not heard of anyone else on the internet that articulate ND traits so well. I think that *the* thing that got me down the rabbit hole of researching what it's like to be ND is stimming. I always feel a compulsive need to pick my nails no matter where I go. I literally have no control over it and the behavior has been there as long as I can remember. During periods when I was the most stressed, my fingers were bleeding or red every single day. This, however, does not feel anxiety as when I was asked the first time why I do this, I answered "I was bored". Learning about stimming makes so much sense because it makes me feel less of a freak. weird thing that is might be related is that I don't think I can feel anything towards anything. like yes there are moments where I find things I like and genuinely love, but they fade so fast and then I feel like as if I'm feigning my interest in THOSE THINGS I AM GENUINELY INTERESTED IN which is so frustrating. i am not sure if I am ND because I feel like I can still somewhat function in a lot of areas of my life and I get ok grades. school sucks because it's too boring and I often find my attention shifting in and out of whoever's teaching.

[@kjdaniels3267]

Really helpful video thank you! I'm just diagnosed with autism and I do suspect that I also have ADHD and I did resonate a lot with a few of the solely ADHD traits you talked about like the getting easily distracted, enjoying multitasking due to like to having my attention on mutiple things at once, and the interrupt others because of having trouble keeping up the flow of conversation.

[@cosievee]

I respectfully disagree that allistic/neurotypical people often get confused about metaphors. If they did, we wouldn’t have metaphors and get taught about metaphors in school. I’ve seen many mentions from ASD folks that it is more likely many (and of course not all - doesn’t apply to you, doesn’t apply to me, doesn’t apply to many) ASD folks who are inclined to take things literally and not “get” metaphors. Of course, there are exceptions to all of those… allistic people who don’t get metaphors and autistic people who do and variations in-between. We’re all a spectrum in one way or another! 😁

[@tallyshay217]

I like your example with driving, but it confused me at first because manual and stick shift are basically the same thing, but I'm pretty sure you meant to say an automatic transmission (one that shifts for you) vs a manual (one that you have to shift). Thanks for the video and sharing your experiences! Makes me understand myself and how I interact with others.

[@Kexeessen]

Omg! Just yesterday I was telling someone that I always explain things in metaphors because I believe the other person would understand better. I have really big and colorful pictures in my head that make total sense to me. Never sure if the other person actually understands what I mean, but I can't think of other ways to explain. Never occurred to me this was a neurodivergent thing 🤯 Edit: now that I've watched through the end: this was so great! I am diagnosed with ADHD since this year and diving now into the world of AuDHD. And your way of explaining differences and overlaps is SO GOOD! This is what I've been looking for, how I need this to be explained in order for me to grasp everything. Thank you so much, really 😭

[@FAX3N]

wow i am exactly the same about time and commitment. That is why I'm a failure, If I take on commitments i fail because i worry about them to the point of exhaustion. I am very indecisive about things that affect the future because i can never tell in advance how I'm going to feel about the thing and how my well being will be at that time. My way to deal with this time and commitment issue is just keeping my calendar as empty as I can and never committing to anything witch i know is not sustainable because I am a NEET with zero relationships and plans for the future. I am about to hopefully get some kind of diagnosis soon and maybe some somatic diagnosis signs point to so hopefully there will be more hope for a bright future out of this darkness. Anyway thx for the video, This one I could really relate to and i think you are doing a fantastic job with your channel.

[@KitHunglinger-yy1ts]

thank you so much for making this video! i have adhd and the circumstances, in my case school, have made that spiral on multiple occations into anxiety and depression. i am suspecting that maybe there might be more than just my adhd diagnosis and i ended up really resonating with a lot of the things you mentioned which made me feel really seen! i needed that

[@TheINFP_Diary]

I was an INFJ in high school, im now an INFP, learning about ASD several months ago was mind blowing

[@ginkgoteki]

i don’t think ur mbti can change over time

[@bethanythatsme]

@@ginkgoteki your understanding of yourself can deepen, and things most definitely can shift IMO

[@ginkgoteki]

@@bethanythatsme growing to understand the truth about yourself doesn't mean that the truth changed. people can change i guess but i'd argue we all have some immutable characteristics.

[@heedmydemands]

Perhaps the percent was not far off, it may have been only a slight shift

[@vazzaroth]

Interestingly, I was INTJ testing in HS and as an adult, INTP all the time. i really think that having a clear goal, parameters for what counts as success and failure, and an understandable system really does make a difference for the ND folks and their functioning. J-ing is easy when it's all spelled out. So much harder in IRL after graduating, where literally EVERYTHING is wibbly-wobbly and not clearly defined. I feel like I spend 90% of my time being 'functional' just desperately trying to understand the parameters, success and failure, and what the overall goal everyone is expecting of me, and it leaves just 10% left to ACTUALLY perform. In school it was 90-10 the other way.

[@BradLee-g6e]

Bruh... Bruh im glad today is legit the day i also made a appointment to begin my journey into mental health

[@tashikathomas1093]

The parent and child reference is something that I use often.. spot on..

[@neilconroy444]

Thank you so much for making these videos. I'm resonating with so many traits you mentioned. As far as my process, I'm currently making a list of traits and scenarios that've happened in my life that, after reflecting, may point to neurodivergency, and I've also been talking with some of my friends who are meurodivegent, too. One thing that stood out to me was the INFP/INFJ trait. (And yes I know this doesn't guarantee what I may or may not have, it's just something that makes sense to me) I've gotten INFP and INFJ on multiple tests, as well as the same test multiple times throughout my life, and I still have no clue which one I'm more like. I relate to so many traits of both personality types.

[@collectivebrainrot]

18:40 you describe it so well! This is *exactly* how I feel every time when socializing with people. I've always known that I'm on a spectrum, but lately I've been suspecting that I may also have ADHD. I can relate to every single thing you said in this video omg 😭

[@magentafox1657]

That point about preferring long-term content (ASD) is very interesting to me. I can watch 8 hour livestream vods in one sitting without needing to eat or anything. It can be really bad as it ends up ruining my sleep schedule because I just have to finish the livestream! I've recently started trying to manage this by doing a method where if it's a game I want to play that they're streaming I have to play up to that point in the game before I can watch theirs (I don't think this method is very good for breaking it up haha, not going to discuss it now because I just had another thought I need to write out I've tried another method of waiting for a natural (not sure o phrasing) dip in my focus which can be very brief, where I leave my room, stretch, walk around etc and when that happens sometimes I can reassess the situation and my current needs, heavy emphasis on some times. Once that's done, I'll go right back to what I was watching or reading or occasionally something else entirely (but whenever I do that there's always a nagging feeling that I need to finish the other thing) Question: What is the in-between of multi tasking and hyperfocusing? Wanted to ask because I don't really understand what the in-between even is haha

[@snikrepak]

This video resonates with my very subatomic particles! The fight between being completely random and facist style order is how i see it, you mentioned before in a video about how the kid would get the urge to run around the mall or shop, but for a 33 year old man with a shaggy beard and a Tralalonko(religious headband) it wouldn't go too well, i have been to the loony bin, and i made a promise that i will never get in that position again, the position of being locked in a place you have no control over, no escape, no other thought but how to escape. Same feeling on planes, but i have learned that the "joker" at this age was not working anymore, making people laugh at your faults and self for the five mins of friendship.

[@ruusamaantytar]

This makes so much sense. Thank you for this video.

[@eni-mk314]

You really opened my eyes to the differences of my neurodiverse traits therefore I am more and more sure about that I have both too! 🎉 Thank you!!! ❤😊

[@Slaaneshy_Concubine]

It‘s kind of funny how I only considered ADHD and didn‘t consider autism much, until I read old psychology evaluations of myself when I was 6 years old. The evaluation looks like ADHD and ASD symptoms all over the place. Inattention, hyperactivity (annoying others when in a group), anxiety when with others, mental retardation (how did I do so well in school then 😂), being unable to show my true potential (I spent most of my time being annoyed with how difficult a task was instead of actually solving the task), motor clumsiness, anger problems, being happy alone, good in languages and logic, shit in geometry and abstraction (makes sense, I was decent at math until functions, curve sketching, … cdme around, I was also bad at geometry), having tics, … On top of that, I can‘t concentrate when I look in peoples eyes, hate loud sounds, was obsessed with certain numbers as a child (divided and multiplied the number 12 for hours but never above 144 (because that‘s 12 x 12. Why go above that? That‘s just perfection 😂)), lined up my toys on the stairs in perfect order and people had to ask for my permission to move up or down, I hate unexpected changes of routine, can‘t switch between tasks well (still get distracted often), I always wondered if I suppress who I am (to avoid bullying because that happened several times when I was younger), I love rankings and categorizing things (tier lists!), … I kind of neglected having autism all my life because a) I‘m bad at math (abstract stuff and geometry) b) I‘m great at languages and c) I seem to be amazing at masking to the degree I don‘t even notice most of the time. Thanks for those videos. It gives me even more insight into who I actually am.

[@krislithk4496]

Amazing work as usual (I have my last adhd interview tomorrow. Feeling so pressured to offer the cleanest and thoroughest picture ever, gosh)

[@TheiaofMeridor]

I'm going to want to share this video with my mom and husband later, because the thing about wanting things out where you can see them resonates with me, although in my case it's definitely more of an Object Permanence issue since if I put it away I may not remember it exists, there are clothes in my closet that I don't wear hardly at all because I just grab from my dresser most of the time and I tend to wear the same things over and over again because when they are washed they end up in the top of the drawer, easy to grab for next time. There's a project I had started and put away because I had needed to focus on college and I'm finally almost finished with it after a gap of years where I hadn't even remembered it existed consciously.

[@Mute2024]

I definitely have both. I’m also INFJ.

[@heedmydemands]

Same

[@Zebo262]

I appreciate your metaphors Irene, I do the same 💙💙💙 thank you for this

[@ChibsMeditation]

Professional masker right here! I’ve spent decades trying to work out why my view of the word was so different, but luckily I’ve managed to make a career out of my confusion 😅 your video has been enlightening, this could have saved me several years of research! Thanks for the content

[@Cobalt-Case]

That object permanence thing is interesting, I didn't know that was something ADHD people could have issues with. I'd call my room controlled chaos. Everything does have a place, and you may not understand the place, but I do. And if things aren't where I expect, I panic. I do hate blinds, but for me it's more about the little slots of light. My room is my haven. I don’t wanna see or hear the outside world. Even the tiny cracks of light on the sides of my blackout curtains can set me off sometimes. The sun is evil, only soft artificial lights for this boy thank you

[@rottedbug]

woah, there are people who don't have one or more voices commenting about everything and talking to them constantly?? i genuinely can't understand how that's possible, wow.

[@cllgscreative]

This is extremely helpful. Giving some possible explanations to why I've been drowning in life for so long.

[@graceface2.0]

The idea that makes the most sense to me is that the spectrum isn't linear, but more like a spiral. So any given brain could have symptoms from different neurodivergent categories, as well as neurotypical. It seems that no one really fits under just one of the labels.

[@musingfoodie1041]

Great information, it is beautifully explained. Most helpful, I very much relate. Thank you! 🙏🏻💗

[@2gunmoya]

Ever since I was a child people would laugh at me whenever I acted weird but when I tried to act "normal" they would ignore my presence. As I grew up, my clown act was an easy target for assholes, so I DREADED showing any emotion to anyone because I felt like the moment I let my guard down, I would get "stabbed" in the back by people I trust. I really can't risk that anymore for the sake of my mental health. Life is just so hard

[@NonsensicalReality]

Jeez the split personality parts where you're breaking down the dichotomy between adhd and autism is too relatable to handle at times 😂 like the being neurotic about being on time and taking it really serious because you know your other side could be so in the clouds that you just stay in bed and don't do anything...

[@EllStrxnerxva]

thank you for doing this! my symptoms are super similar to yours and now im exactly at the point where ive been taking medication for my adhd and now realising that theres more:d

[@JanainaBrognoli]

Thanks so much for making these videos! I feel I have so mich as this as well, I also have autism and adhd diagnose, I just realize now all the this I make to suppress my stims as well, just like what you said, I hadn't notice that these things was for suppressing it...

[@springskyllark]

Are those real birds??? I loooove the bird sounds in the background 🎶🦜 very brain tickly (also great job on this video series!)

[@Swigi_E]

Her:"..so i would give myself.." Me: "an extra 30min?" Her: "an extra 30 minutes to get to work" Me: "OMFGG SKSKEJRBTV!!!! I FEEL CALLED OUT!!!"

[@cawlhorderofcaws]

I really started to suspect i have both in the last few months because of constant overtimulation to the point when even the thought of the event made me overly anxious and rather skip it, even tho my mind knew it was important for me to be there. I got diagnosed last year with a combination of anxiety and depression, but i highly git upset by it because i didn't and still not agree with it. The person i went to didn't even seem to care and did my evaluation routinely, i didn't feel seen and understood at all. Aaaaand i grew so dreadful towards diagnosing that i didn't see another professional ever since 😅

[@Hxney733]

The video is greatly interesting . Just found the channel via recommendation thru yt. Now that I have side read some comments, I have some thoughts on them too. Disclaimer: I'm not a psychologist or therapist. I have read and researched a lot and still do about mental health issues and symptoms and as for the autism /adhd, they are very very near on the spectrum and as seen in the video multiple symptoms are on each spectrum of adhd/autism and even borderline personality disorder. That's why some diagnosises are false from the beginning. Also the diagnosis of adhd is different to each learned traits of adhd diagnosis patterns. There are e. G. The impulsive adhd form which especially on woman is often misdiagnosed as bpd. And quit adhd (inattentive add) is in early childhood years also often misdiagnosed as autism or asperger. In short: as for a sharp diagnosis on mental disorders or syndromes some symptoms have to be breaker down in order to uncover the real diagnosis and sometimes it takes some effort and time to get the right diagnosis. Sometimes we just have to talk a bit more to a therapist in order to give more clues. And I'm not talking about manipulation. Have a great day.

[@simonchis9333]

Thanks for such a well presented and structured video, ive been thinking i have traits of both and being confused because of that, but when you went into how you deal with time and commitments with you dual ways of seeing the world it struck a deep chord, a definate ahaaaaa ! moment for me, also metaphoric thinking, (an old nickname i was given was metaphorman as i also think in picturised concepts which i have always thought meant there is no waybi coukd have asd traits - but no!

[@shibolinemress8913]

Your friend sounds a lot like my brother in that regard. I actually write my thoughts down in bullet points while listening to him so I won't forget what I wanted to say. Sometimes he notices that he's rambling and tries to give me space to reply, and I can go back to my notes and say what I wanted. But on not-so-good days he'll then still interrupt me so that it's hard for me to finish. On those days I usually give up and text him my thoughts later if it's something important.

[@purrrbot]

I have a question for those who were diagnosed & treating their ADHD prior to any ASD evaluation. When you did you autism evaluation, did they want you to take your adhd meds the day of the evaluation? Because not only do I think the evaluator dismissed my more autistic traits due to having a special interest in raving ("why would an autistic person go to raves?"), I feel they also dismissed my adhd and kind of hurt their credibility (in my eyes) due to writing in the evaluation that I appeared to be "outgrowing" my adhd diagnosis. Thing is, as you said before, with adhd and autism we learn coping skills that enable us to function as close to "normal" as possible in order to maintain basic standards of living. I have been in college for many years due to untreated adhd, and by the time I got an autism evaluation I had only been treating my adhd for at most 2 years. At the time I was unemployed, unable to leave the house, required a lot of support from family to just achieve basic day to day tasks and this is a cycle that has repeated my whole adult life. I'll move out for school, do okay the first month or two, burn out to the point I was at prior to my ASD eval, have to drop my classes down to one or two per semester, still struggle to meet day to day basics like eating/hygiene, and then move back home in order to recover for months or longer before trying again. During my evaluation she told me it was fine I took my adhd meds that morning, and we only had one meeting that was roughly 6 hours long and included no interview with family or outside sources. It seems that as soon as she learned of my trauma, that was the go-to diagnosis. I feel like it's also partly my fault for doing the evaluation during the pandemic (wearing masks) and there were points in the assessment where I either didnt express the overwhelm I was feeling and withheld lashing out as she was talking while I was trying to focus on tests, etc. I feel like I really need a second evaluation, but the first one was close to a grand and I just can't justify that. Especially when being told I wasn't autistic despite having "traits" made me feel like I don't know myself (I do) and like I'm faking it as an excuse to justify all of my failures to become an independent adult. Idk. Tldr: did anyone else get told by their asd evaluator that taking your adhd meds on the day of the eval wouldn't have an effect on your results? I find that extremely hard to believe, especially with her comments about how it seems I'm now "outgrowing" my adhd like... Mmmm... no, I just took my meds that allow me to function semi-normally that morning & internalized a lot of the frustration I felt while you were talking during my testing...

[@carleighmiller542]

Omg I hate crowds but I also LOVE raving! It’s the only crowd I can feel comfortable in! And even that took me a long time. I used to have to be very drunk every time because I was so scared of not fitting in.

[@ermiratozaj6131]

Thank you for sharing your information 🙏🕊

[@eilatan5043]

I suspect I might have both, adhd more confidently, but it’s interesting that you used personality types because I regularly take these tests (like every few months) and I have a consistent split between INTJ and INFJ

[@Hikewithchloe]

Oh my god, thinking in the picture was not only me.

[@LitterboxLegend]

Actually, object permanence is the ability to know that objects continue to exist even though they can no longer be seen or heard. You may forget you have certain things but you (probably) understand that they do not cease to exist if you cannot see them, even though it can feel like that

[@lojjo18Nooni]

Thank you so much for the clarification, but please guys don’t confuse a personality type with a neurotype, thanks to my autism I thought I’m an INTJ, still had many questions marks which turned out that I was ENFP and it highly resonated with me, I also have ADHD which is also not the same as being ENFP, many ENFPs are NTs, have no focus issues and function well in daily life, personality and neurotype are merely different concepts.

[@MartianGirl347]

PS (I’m on my phone, and it won’t let me edit my comment)- I *also* thought I had narcolepsy at one point because things got so bad! I went to a sleep specialist due to the fact that I was randomly (and uncontrollably) falling asleep. I know now that it was my body telling me, “GIRL, CHILL!”

[@thethoughtspot222]

I’ve had to pull off a road into a parking lot to nap for 10 min while running errands 😅

[@MartianGirl347]

@@thethoughtspot222 Same! The worst was when I was working at a job that... wasn't the best fit for me, and I would randomly fall asleep at my desk, or even when I was driving. I could have slept 10 hours the night before, and that would still happen. Thankfully, I haven't had that problem in a long time. I had no idea that it was related to being neurodivergent until recently. Knowing I'm not the only one *really* helps.

[@tomaskey6844]

@@thethoughtspot222 I have to do that also. Often I come out of stores and take a power nap just to get enough energy to drive safe.

[@heedmydemands]

Yeah I definitely feel so tired in the middle of the day, just a bit before I have to go get my daughter from the bus stop. It seems like there's never enough time in the day and I want to do so much, how could I sleep I have to learn everything

[@porciwall9261]

Wouldn't you also randomly fall asleep due to lack of dopamine?

[@dada_ismuss3636]

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts..

[@gypsileydi6412]

Exactly what my brother is going through with Autism and ADHD

[@Densenugs]

I was struggling with managing life a few years ago, and decided to finally see a psychologist. She had a questionare we went through for our first meeting, and at the end, she asked me if I'd heard of BPD before- haha! I said yeah, I fist fought my crazy old roommate who had it. The next appointment, she diagnosed me adhd. My retired psychiatrist diagnosed me bipolar 2 a few years before.

[@Densenugs]

Omg you talked imbalance of convos & forgetting thoughts- so needing to interject- and summed it up perfectly. I still interject with irrelevant stories though

[@Densenugs]

Obviously live tweeting over here, but I had examples come to mind for the last 5 or so minutes of your video. I want to use this as a prompt to write, then bring to my psych!

[@rawrrcheco]

Love your content! Thank you for your vulnerability and teachings! Super relatable and helpful! 🫶🏻👍🏻👌🏻 Cute shirt here by the way! 🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@elsik2332]

Okay I'm not actually full way through yet but I had to stop to comment (oh the irony) about hyperfocusing on something you're interested in - I'm moving soon and I need to make a spreadsheet about sorting, packing and shipping things. It really must be done, I'll be in serious trouble if I leave this move last minute (like the previous uhhhhh 3 house moves), but I've been recently really obsessed about the intersection and overlapping of ADHD and autism, as well as natural basket making. So here I am, watching through your playlist while twisting a natural cord I learned how to make from another youtube video 2 days ago. It's already almost 2 metres long, go me! But also, utterly obscure, how about making that spreadsheet with the same time and energy?? Impossible. I'm undiagnosed and life really is a struggle sometimes.

[@011silbermond]

The fact that I know I have ADHD makes it easier to accept my issues, but my planning ability and frustration tolerance are so low plus I have despite my inner restlessness a strong inhibition to DO anything at all, like I have to urge me to do something no matter if I like it or unlike it, it´s additionally exhausting. I also developed fibromyalgia with heavy CFS 4 years ago, I assume due to long term anxiety, functioning issues, childhood trauma and being undiagnosed for so long (I´m 42 now). To separate ASD and CPTSD due to emotional neglect and lack of parental support appears specially difficult for me with this background. Did the lack of emotional and social intelligence (also striking taciturnity ) that I experienced in both of my parents lead to my own struggling, or is it more? What caused these traits in them, did I inherit them or was it learning? Maybe my parents had autistic traits unknowingly and that is why their perception didn´t tell them that something is odd with me. One point that I remember from one video about autism is however that there is a decreased ability to transfer experiences and maybe certain patterns of behaviour from one social situation to another (also a topic in an article that I read about the difference in top-down vs bottom-up learning, I think?) . I think this is indeed something I also struggle with. Not so much problems reading facial expression, but to interprete them without to hear someone saying explicit words. And in every new situation I have to search for behaviour in my memory that I used successfully before. Nothing feels really natural. I wonder if this problem would be so severe in any situation if it´d be just ADHD. Like you I like to think or explain sth in pictures sometimes. Perhaps a little bit tricky to see this as part of an autistic brain if we compared it with the autistic trait to take things literally. But for me language was always something that I liked to think about, I like to have a wide vocabulary even if word finding struggles increased over time maybe due to the chronic fatigue. Actually my "everything about my children is normal" -mother mentioned that I learned to read all by myself in kindergarten at an age of 5. I could read full sentences, at an age of 8 or 9 I read entire books with 300 pages. And then decided to give up reading books, because my aunt didn´t read me books anylonger. Nobody understood what it meant to me, that it was a form of love which I understand and how valuable some of these fictional stories were to me.

[@heedmydemands]

I felt the same way about being read too, it was really special to me. I love reading to my kids

[@kateerose5480]

I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD but haven’t reached out yet to test for ASD diagnosis. I think to myself “oh,you have one and are getting treatment for it so you’re good”. I guess I feel hesitant to seek more.

[@mariecait]

i love your sweater today and outfit .. you look so beautiful

[@thethoughtspot222]

I crochet the sweater ☺️🧶

[@heedmydemands]

​@@thethoughtspot222 yeah it's really nice

[@mloveleigh]

im 49 years old. can you please be my advocate for myself and children...you speak so well.. im a blubbering crazy mess of blah.. i did just realise had i found this all out at your age i totally would have been doing what youre doing.. it wouldve been my obsessive subjects instead of psychology, social justice..nutritional medicine ;)

[@andreagutierrezarce7615]

I can relate with this and got my autistic diagnosis first

[@tashikathomas1093]

Metaphors are my language... Thanks

[@christopherrosado8420]

I love metaphors :)

[@120-l3l]

Ahhhh 36:30 is MEEEE! I HATEEEEE blinds, I will literally take down the entire blinds or have them completely up and open. My ADHD boyfriend HAAATES it but we compromise by hanging blackout curtains for night time 😝

[@ecpetty]

OMG I THINK WE SHARE A BRAIN (diagnosed ADHD, self-dx AuDHD here)

[@TheRawChuck]

Hi, Irene. I have both.

[@SimoneEppler]

Sh*t, I think I have both, too. 😮 That would explain those inner conflicts so well. 😅❤ Thank you for your videos m they’re awesome! 😊

[@MelinaPPB]

Thank you for talking about how difficult it can be just to communicate with other people! I always felt like people could see through my facade and not bother trying to talk to me after. I felt like i was silently rejected time and time again. At some point I got used to it but then held on tight to the people that were my realy friends. Lots of trial and error though. Fatigue during the day is something i can relate to so much too!!! I remember going on a trip to San Diego and just having to stop so often because i couldnt stay away. My eye lids would be so heavy. 🥲

[@samirah4786]

Hi - it is clear to me I have both, and I am not a high masking individual so it's really disappointing I was not diagnosed as a kid. I currently do not need a professional diagnosis to feel validated in that. I know you've recommended pursuing a diagnosis in several videos, but for myself, I'm not sure about it, because of the restrictions/trade offs that come with it. My autonomy is very important to me and I don't want anything that could compromise that. I was wondering if you could explain what treatments you have access to for free, after diagnosis, so I can see if it's worth it for me? Is it just that it could possibly get me medication for ADHD if I needed it? Because, I don't think they will pay for noise cancelling headphones, right? I also don't think it would pay for a class to teach me sign language and access to a sign language interpreter, would it? Would it give me access to therapy for my other conditions like PTSD? Also, I am low income and on medicare/medical, so none of these would be accessible to me if I have to pay for it myself. But, from my research, I don't think an ASD and ADHD treatment could really get me access to this for free? Unless, I get on disability benefits somehow, but that would mean I can't have an income...so I'm not sure about a diagnosis.

[@anjachan]

i really enjoy your videos 😊

[@Pheonix_ash]

Metaphor thing is really true😅

[@iligalvan]

This is crazy!

[@juliejohnson5573]

UGH....I really wanted to listen to this video!! However all I could focus on are the birds in the background which I almost could not even type this

[@leenaparsons9876]

Omg the fear of being late part 😂

[@zhanzhengxisupremacy]

This video helps reducing my impostor syndrome

[@SteshuShu]

I've been skin picking since a child and it comes and goes. I'm positive it's a bad stim... (undiagnosed)

[@nicolenarwal4658]

Any chance you post a version of these somewhere without the bird sounds? I really like what you talk about but i really dont enjoy the constant squeaks and twitters in the background

[@chrstfer2452]

Idk if ive felt so heard so much in a list video omg

[@mikathewitch8980]

I think I might have both....

[@Slaaneshy_Concubine]

It kinda seems to me that my ASD traits seem to be parenting my ADHD traits 😂 Me, starting yoga because it helps with some ADHD symptoms. ADHD: Let’s learn Indian. I really wanna. ASD: No you don’t. Hyperfocus on Japanese for now, otherwise you start 20 languages and never master any. You know you’re bad at switching tasks. ADHD: Huh, makes sense. Ok. But after that I learn Indian. Oh, what about Korean? Let’s learn that as well. We could do that right now. ASD: You’re an idiot.

[@adaintydream8759]

i want my blinds on , blackout curtains

[@rawrrcheco]

What is STIM?

[@tashikathomas1093]

Wow, I feel like Im watching myself talk about what I feel like as I experience life.. nobody understands and they just feel Im Extra ..