2022 Honda Civic Si - Road Trip Driving Impressions

MSRP: From $27,300
Horsepower: 200 hp
Engine: 1.5 L 4-cylinder
Tire size: P235/40R18
MPG: 27 city / 37 highway
Curb weight: 2,952 lbs
Transmission: 6-speed manual
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[@snail415]

What I appreciate the most out of this review…isn’t in the review. It’s the experience and wisdom baked-in. This guy has driven a 911 Turbo S, a 720S, etc, but can separate from those experiences to remain right-sized with expectations and thoughts. That’s what makes this channel useful to critical shoppers. Thanks.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Agreed.

[@bkhavityoway23]

Wow, i haven’t read such a more true statement from a viewer either! Such a great way to point out how great this guy is doing

[@kubek555]

you got that right. Nothing more annoying than reviewer moaning about car not being powerful enough blah blah blah. As if general public lived their lives at Nordschleife

[@wtfx5757]

10,000 over msrp. That’s what I was quoted. I literally laughed in her face and walked away.

[@parameciumking909]

dealers are crazy nowadays

[@diallo1347]

I just tell them that they must not want to make a sale that day.

[@taylorwindham1]

@@diallo1347 as a salesman someone will be dumb enough to pay it unfortunately. I’ll try to talk then down or try to tell them about the hatchback 6speed with less mark up

[@diallo1347]

@Taylor Wyndham sad but true. But I also wait until the first week of the year when they are trying to make room for the new models.

[@taylorwindham1]

@@diallo1347 I’ll tell you a tip the markup before tax refunds December is typically the cheapest time to buy one

[@abdullaharif6455]

Useful metric conversions: 0:19 (1931 km) 2:47 (5.9 L/100km, 17 km/L over average speed of 118 km/h) 2:56 (6.4 L/100km, 15.7 km/L to 5.9 L/100km, 17 km/L) 3:05 (between 121 to 137 km/h) 8:28 (128 km/h) 12:34 (around 149 kW, 203 PS) 12:36 (1315 kg) 14:46 (29.5°C in Nashville)

[@deniscdyck]

I wish this info was added to the videos like doug demuro does, or the way canadian channels do by mentioning both metrics in their videos.

[@leocui03]

Thank you

[@Gaben38]

Damn, those fuel consumption numbers are really impressive. EHEV Civic is going to even better, i can't wait.

[@splewy]

I want my fuel economy in REAL American units: football fields per Bud Light can.

[@andybub45]

This car has literally everything I want. Decent hp paired with a manual, a good infotainment, a quality sound system, all of that while keeping the great practicality the civic is known for. Also it will hold its value very well, especially the way the market is today. Only thing I don't like is the L15 engine is known for head gasket problems, but i've heard that its much less likely to happen on the SI. And im a mechanic anyways so if it blows at 100,000 I can fix it. Also the auto start stop would drive me insane, at least it can be disabled.

[@user-cf6dn5tg4f]

Brother one day. One day inshallah!

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

I frequent up my parents house in my 22 Si which is a about a 400 mile round trip. The car has been amazing to me and having the super nice stereo makes road tripping great. The gearing is a little short and the car sits at 3000 rpm around 75 MPH but the road noise cancels out and engine drone

[@zalden2565]

I thought that was odd when I test drove. I thought it’s not going to get great mileage at that kind of rpm. I was a little wrong there though

[@dabigchina]

The "road noise cancels out the engine drone" is a top tier backhanded complement.

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

@@dabigchina Yeah I guess that does sound kind of weird lol

[@thomasmacgruber6701]

My 2020 Si is torture on long trips, the road sound and tire whine is horrible. I hope they fixed it for 2022.

[@ryanb8736]

@@thomasmacgruber6701 Same thing.

[@imbeggar]

The SI is a joy to drive, no doubt, but bc of the gauging dealer markups, I went the GTI. For me, in my 40s, I find the gti a bit more refined, quieter, I prefer the softer steering feel, and slightly more comfortable, and on road trips I have actually cracked 43.1 miles per gallon!

[@A_Gomes1122]

43 mpg is super impressive, I might have to look at a GTI

[@ryanb8736]

GTI’s are super nice. More refined and much quicker.

[@maximus9401]

Had an Si, eventually moved to the GTI. When I was younger I was disappointed with the GTI. Now that I'm older, I love it. It feels premium, it feels refined, great comfort and power (I'm tuned). It's a beautiful daily driver. Handles great. Can't wish for more out of a front wheel drive daily. Wish I had one sooner!

[@hondaftw1234]

The fuel economy in my MK8 GTI is incredible!

[@TheTopher]

Yeah, don't pay markups on an Si

[@Fivestarrs]

Traded my 2020 accord 2.0 for the new si. Disregarding the horsepower, this is a more engaging car to drive. Not to mention its crazy maneuverable compared to the boat lengthed accord. And the rear seat in this car will totally suffice if your friends are not XL sized. Done about 3000 miles so far and have averaged 35mpg combined with a fair bit of aggressive driving (accord averages 23), really surprised it does better on gas than a miata. Road noise is acceptable but not great, on par with the accord, can get annoying over long distances. But if you find yourself not needing the rear seats as often, the new si is a really good one car solution imo.

[@logandeering7947]

Went from a 2019 si to a 2021 accord 2.0T and hate the size of the accord it feels like I’m driving a literal boat compared. I miss my si but I do love the power and power capabilities of the accord.

[@Fivestarrs]

@@logandeering7947 Yeah, tbh I only 'downgraded' because the accord got too big for the city, its longer than a 5 series 🙄

[@jamesledermann5601]

Considering this or maybe just have both lol I love the accord but also would like better mpg and manual

[@johngarciar4351]

In my 2019 nd2 miata I can get 44mpg hwy if I baby it. But I’ve seen some people on the forums hyper mile a stock miata to 48mpg.

[@CrispyMC]

I’ve been dead set on getting a 2.0T 6MT for months now, but just discovered this Si, which is especially impressive in Canada where I am with all its uptrim features compared to the US version (heated seats front + back, heated steering, wireless charger, and a few more things). Pretty sure my focus is set on the Si now, but I’d love to hear more about your switch, as for any pros and cons of both vehicles. Not enough comparisons of these two online IMO.

[@owequitit]

IMO, the Si has always been under-rated as a road trip car. I used to live the Si’s all the way back to the 4th Gen Civic and CRX Si. I drove my 2009 Si from the west coast of AZ to Oshkosh, WI non-stop over 33 hours and then back again via Dallas, TX within the span of 10 days. Absolutely no issues other than a bit of excessive road noise. Even my dad had no complaints with his bad back. Great video!

[@bucknut2000]

i agree, I drove my 2008 from Michigan to Florida and back and it was awsome with summer tires driving through Ky and TN. You can drive so much faster there vs MI and OH

[@kballs94]

The 8th gen you drove with your dad, had what is considered the magnum opus of Civic Si seats

[@paulziegler8505]

Ditto to everything you said in the video. I owend a '22 Blazing Orange Civic Si from December '21 until July '22. I traded it for a Elantra N with the DCT. I love the Elantra N for many of the same reasons, light, great handling, great steering, etc. After 3 weeks without the Civic I missed the fun of shifting and I saw online that a Blue Si was in transit to a local dealer and I now will be trading my '21 Accord Sport for another Si. Best thing is, I bought a set of aftermarket wheels and Michelin PS4S tires for the Si that I kept and they will be going on the new, blue Si when she arrives. Those tires are much quieter and fantastic handling! I did one 1300 mile road trip from New York to Florida in the Si and have a basis to agree 100% with your review. Excellent!

[@jamesledermann5601]

I have been yearning for a new si vid from topher and here it is!

[@leedaomillz]

Honda makes brilliant cars. I wish they still made the s2000

[@carsandcrows9921]

I keep asking them, they say no. :^((((

[@jessemarsh9386]

Before starting the video and seeing this was a Blazing Orange Pearl example, I originally thought "oh cool, Tedward drove out to visit!"

[@belovedLion80]

Just hit 7k on my 22’ Si. Perfect daily, no doubt.

[@zuhayerahnafaziz6956]

Watching this after having my 2022 Si for almost 3 months, this makes me smile despite it's drawbacks. Great work Topher.

[@mrtachanka607]

Which drawbacks?

[@zuhayerahnafaziz6956]

@@mrtachanka607 Rev-hang obviously. Also, going from 3rd to 2nd can be rough even at low speed.

[@mrtachanka607]

@@zuhayerahnafaziz6956 Thanks for your answer as I was really thinking of getting it!

[@zuhayerahnafaziz6956]

@@mrtachanka607 Overall, a great car for daily commute with great gas mileage. Let me know when you purchase it.

[@Newyen6MT]

I honestly thought this was a Tedward video since he has a Civic SI😅

[@TedwardDrives]

;)

[@Newyen6MT]

@@TedwardDrives I’ll be going to Swedish car day at Larz Anderson tomorrow! I’m excited, I’ll be driving my friends 01 V70 T5M to it. Going with a Yellow T5-R and a red R

[@darrenmathias9384]

@@TedwardDrives Are you The Topher's cousin? I keep mixing both of you up lol

[@TedwardDrives]

@@darrenmathias9384 non-genetic brothers

[@TheTopher]

Good thing we don't own the exact same car in the exact same color! Yet.

[@kaceydillin7367]

Love my Sonic Grey Pearl 22 Civic. Can’t lie, looking at the 23 Civic Type R with lustful eyes….

[@paulrussell6495]

Ordered one of these today, got it for 800 under msrp here in vancouver. Will have it in 3 weeks

[@Neirocity]

Adaptive Cruise control is nice but like Tedward said in his video regarding Fuel Economy, that feature will ultimately cost you money on gas because once it senses the speed of the car in front of you, it will slow down to match it depending on the distance you have it set to follow at. You never want to be at a point where you're lowering your speed on the highway because then when you have to pick your speed back up, it uses fuel unnecessarily. Does it make things nicer on a long trip? Yes. I drove to Minnesota last year in my Civic (roughly same distance that Topher drove here at around 1500 miles total) and had no issues driving several hundred miles at a stretch because I could just fidget the wheel every 15-20 seconds to get it to keep steering for me. This is the opinion of a Sport Touring Hatch owner though but obviously the fuel economy isn't any different. I still get 42-43mpg on highway for long trips as long as you're not letting a semi truck slow down your speed with ACC.

[@RCXDerp]

Yeah I did a 8 hour round trip up north. I turned it off whenever someone got close so it was kinda pointless.

[@wwjoshdew]

KZbin recommends your videos so damn much, that I went ahead and just subscribed. lmao. I search a video, and your channel shows up. Every damn time.

[@apostolisbournous9508]

Such an amazing place and magic car too!!!! I have the 9th gen civic and im in love with it!! You are so lucky guy. Honda is the best car in the world!

[@keithprice6581]

Hey Topher - watching your vids always reminds me of the years I spent in Detroit. Always drove that same route over to Ann Arbor and back. I don't miss the potholes, but I do miss Woodward!

[@TheTopher]

Nice! Woodward is crazy right now. The potholes are more under control this time of year, which is good. Bracing for freeze thaw!

[@keken_25_pr48]

Have a 4 door 2013 Si Bone Stock with 18" rims from 2017 Si. Took it to Autocross once and Open Track once. Gas and Oil changes so far and this is the modern car I ever have. No complains just the Android Auto lol 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mogulmayhem]

My local dealer has a bronze Si on sale for 34K. This car has great value at MSRP, but not with ridiculous 20% markups.

[@piee93able]

This Civic looks so cool and in Malaysia🇲🇾 we called as "Civic FE"... pretty nice👍

[@harveymushman4190]

I miss the 8th gen that didn't have that hump in the middle in the rear, felt roomier 👌

[@brianlee9233]

Me too. Along with the annoying beeping (along with Mercedes') when you start the car, the 8th gen Si was amazing.

[@Oliver0200]

Thanks for this video. I'll be flying to Texas to pick mine up and drive it home to STL from the dealership.

[@rekunta]

I have $12k currently saved, probably going to be getting a new Honda when I have save around $20-25k. As a Door Dasher/Uber driver, I’m looking to buy a new Honda next year or so. This one looks great, but as someone who will be on the road hours per day, this rules out a manual transmission. This looks fun but not for a daily job driving.

[@edkar7604]

What you do isn’t a job tho. I’d recommend getting one, more fun, more money, more fulfilling and something to actually put on a resume..

[@rekunta]

@@edkar7604 I don’t care what meets your strict definition of a job. It pays for a service I provide, which in my estimation qualifies as a job in the most general sense, and as a chronically ill person, the gig nature of the work allows me to accommodate my condition to my discretion as needs be. Realize that not everyone is blessed with good health in this life that affords them the ability to work a “traditional” job, so nobody gets to, in so many words, claim that I’m not working when I’m doing the best I can with what I have.

[@djaric]

The thing I miss most about my 18 Si was the gas mileage. Always 38-40 on the highway. And that it was easy to wring out on the streets without going the Jail. I had mine tuned with Ktuner with TSP stage1. I highly recommend it! My fl5, not so great on gas. At best I get the worst winter mileage I had on the Si (low 20s). And not so easy to drive hard on the streets, without risking legal trouble! LOL

[@Petcute152Official]

I just finished a road trip from bay area California to San Antonio TX in my 2018 Hondata tuned Si . 3200 miles in in 6 days. It was great !! 👍

[@RedlineGaming007]

Any update on When will be the Civic Type R media drive?

[@TheTopher]

Not sure exactly, but hopefully sometime in the next couple months

[@clover7359]

40+ MPG at 73 MPH is stellar. My old 2020 Honda Fit 6 speed got 42 MPG sticking to 65 MPH ...

[@jamesmcmillian9896]

You can have any color interior you want as long as you choose black.

[@wyattb8217]

I can't wait to get my hands on one of these things. I've got a 2015 civic lx (cvt) and I can't wait to upgrade!

[@TheAbdullah1986]

Lovely to see stick shift

[@kikomanster8188]

Nice car if you can get it for MSRP. Honda made it barebones (US spec as Canadian is loaded) with features compared to last gen such as the adaptive dampers, fog lights and heated seats since they save it all for the Integra.

[@ryanb8736]

I hate that it got stripped. Honda screwed over US buyers.

[@pss0520]

2023 model will prob get what the current Canada model has

[@darrenmathias9384]

The Integra exists in Canada too...they didnt strip it down for the Integra; it was a decision of Honda USA likely due to supply chain issues so that you guys dont have to wait more than a year for your car. One guy I talked to was already waiting 9 months for his orange SI order

[@kikomanster8188]

Canada always get more features with Honda products even before Integra was brought back so it makes it harder for Canadians to buy the Integra since their Si specs have all the same features and it you save more money. In the US, it is more of a business decision that people will buy the Integra if they want all those features for another $9-10k more well that is before the markups. Si’s have been going for $4-5k over msrp around here in Pacific Northwest, same thing with Integra’s plus you have to wait 2-3 months when you order

[@shivamarya5225]

Cars are cheaper in general in Canada, gti starts 5k USD cheaper over there, civic si is the same price as in the US so they're just giving them more stuff instead of selling it insanely cheap

[@dand1363]

I am getting 44mpg on highway in my 2023 SI. Im being conservative and staying aroubd 75 with AC off. Its pretty crazy, in a good way! 😂

[@jdmteggy2388]

intake and tune would wake it up i bet be diff car

[@zanehayes4380]

Great on throttle as always with The Topher.

[@MRX5000X]

Wish they made a hatchback Si. I think it would outsell hatchback Sport Touring manuals and Intégra manuals.

[@yungblacky2939]

What’s the point in it if your asking for a more sporty car and the base mode civic comes hatchback

[@RCXDerp]

That is the entire point of the Integra though.

[@carsandcrows9921]

Topher's about to buy Tedward's civic si

[@TheTopher]

Or a Type R! 👀

[@carsandcrows9921]

@@TheTopher excellent choice! Can't wait for the reviews

[@singular9]

I would not fill up any of the new honda turbo engines with 87. Volvo, BMW, and many others have been doing the same, saying that you can put 87 into your turbo engine, and then within 100k miles the engine has been intermittently misfiring, knocking, and slowly destroying itself. You will never notice the issues because the ECU tries its hardest to adjust the timing and power, but it will blow up eventually. I think the only company that makes a turbo engine that can take 87 and not brake is the mazda 2.5, because it literally has a separate tune and map for different octane levels, which most of the competition doesn't do because that is deliberately turning your 250hp car into a 200hp car and from a marketing standpoint, that isn't good. MARKETING runs the car show, not the engineers. Same with 10k mile oil changes, which are also...lies. All you have to do is look at an L15 engine tear down and see that the con rods, valves, crank bolts, and the crank itself, are horribly small and weak, one knock could destroy any of these parts. ONE KNOCK. so imagine you are somewhere where you can't get high quality gas, and you get 87 octane from a no name gas station, bye bye engine. At 5000+ RPM this engine literally shakes itself apart.

[@ThePery123]

Making me rethink my ecoboost with that lane keep assist with the manual trans

[@user-kg7xr8hk7n]

Si -is a cool car for less money just for fun-love drivers.

[@iTz_Codes]

Maaan I was like watching your Honda vids. I'm 30 hopefully gonna get my DL end of next month, I know i know. Lol si looks great but I have never drove a manual and hardly a reg car but your honda civic vids make me want a civic. They look like great fun cars and for a first time car.

[@exile9237]

Prob the first times ive seen someone drive a manual proper on a review. I drive better but very good lol

[@anthonycruciani939]

Nice vid. Just said bye to my dear 04 Acura TSX and looking at one of these.

[@bretthollingsworth9866]

You mentioned swapping out the stock tires for quieter... seriously interested in this car and THAT recommendation, can you give me your top 2 tires/ guesstamate for that swap? GREAT review, as always!!

[@RubbishFPS]

I have the All seasons that came on mine. They are def louder than my old summer only tires i ran on my 2012 but they arent really that bad. I only noticed too much noise on a section of new pavement that wasnt finished well. They are the largest limiting factor on handling though and are quite noisy on fresh pavement. I would have to say pretty much any summer tire will be much quieter and make the car twice as fun in the corners. Such a fun car to drive. The new LSD is incredible, yanks you through the corners under power. Couple that with the rev match that i thought id hate but completely fell in love with and its by far the best Si I've ever drove.

[@MrDaveaccord]

Too bad you can't get one at a reasonable price. Dealer markups are outrageous.

[@lilcuban56]

How’s this car for taller people? Think it would feel too crowded small for a male that’s 6’2?

[@MattN03]

I don't understand why Honda can't improve road noise. My wife's old 2010 Accord had a lot of road noise and after 12 years of improvements, I'd expect Honda to have that issue figured out...

[@rightlanehog3151]

Chris, That was an excellent summary. I am really impressed by the mpg of this manual Civic👏👏👏👏 but I wonder how much weight Honda saves on each Civic by scrimping on sound deadening. Noisy Hondas seem to a decades long issue.

[@addykumar672]

This is my biggest gripe about the car. I have put 7000 miles on my 22 SI that I was extremely lucky to get for MSRP. I love everything except the road noise especially at freeway speeds. I would be more than happy to sacrifice a little bit of MPG and price for more refinement. I’m at a point where I’m thinking about selling it. But at the same time I don’t know what else will give me the same driving pleasure as this car. The steering, suspension and shifter combination is incredible at this price point. Any thoughts ?

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@addykumar672 I can't think of a ready made alternative but I am confounded by the Honda noise issue since....... forever.

[@andybub45]

@@addykumar672 Ive heard the factory tires cause most of it.

[@udaitaxem7505]

Definitely going to be my next car in the process of saving up!!

[@bkhavityoway23]

Honest question-- How reliable do you think the L15 engine is from Honda? I know the make up, software and internals may be different for the Si but I'm not so sure how tried and true the L15 is. Seems to have some issues but I would like to know others feedback!

[@JeLifeCoach]

How stiff is this compared to a 2023 mazda 3 turbo or a veloster n? In the middle between the two? Stiffer than the 10th gen?

[@janetward3462]

Nice car, may buy one after selling my owned since new 2013 Corvette Grand Sport at the beginning of Covid. My main question is whether the 1.5 liter turbo will be reliable in the long term relative to the oil dilution problems of years past with the 1.5.

[@jaden.sanderson]

1.5T oil dilution was fixed for 2019+ cars.

[@RCXDerp]

If you change your oil every 5k miles it will never be an issue. Don't listen to them that 10k is good for oil changes. I've seen 10th gens with 250k miles and they sound the same as new. Just don't get a cvt unless you have to.

[@janetward3462]

No CVT, considering a new SI, thanks to those that answered.

[@blueshark3098]

@@RCXDerp Yup. When I had a 2020 Si, I changed the oil and filter every 5000 miles, never mind the maintenance minder.

[@jerrybuffington6473]

I live in Michigan too and it's between this and the WRX. So less power/ better mpg vs more power/ AWD. It's tough to decide. I do have a great Subaru dealer to work with here in Troy so that certainly helps. Still hard to get an SI.

[@pieswimmer1]

I would probably get the WRX just because you can actually get one for msrp lol

[@goldentrucker7921]

The new crosseye wrx. So ugly

[@TheTopher]

If you can get a WRX at MSRP - that's a really solid buy. First turbo Subaru with proper tuning from the factory (in recent memory lol)

[@HyperVegitoDBZ]

Almost 6 litres per 100 km on a highway is very good indeed.

[@Stuckinthepast_]

I have a 24 si it’s a great road trip car

[@atopher277]

The rev hang sounds like the baby t-rex from JP 2.

[@pistolpete6321]

Fantastic in-depth review!

[@johnnyjay1047]

Really random question, but I'd really like to know how the cup holder placement affects the shifting. if you have bottles or cups in them, how often do you need to be mindful of your arm when shifting? Seriously considering a type r.

[@yovanigramajo4632]

They're pretty deep so normal sized bottles don't interfere

[@cojia]

I would love to get one but the markups are crazy

[@faridoondildar1075]

Great work topher

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

The Honda Civic SI Is A Good Acceleration On The Freeway.

[@ryanb8736]

It’s ok. It’s only 200 hp, so it’s not gonna win any races on highway. It’s a fun commuter car that’s great on fuel.

[@fhowland]

Thinking about selling my S2000 and 8th gen SI for one of these. Seems like a perfect car to do it all.

[@kevint8353]

Don't sell the S2000. You'll regret it trust me.

[@kubap7398]

Would love to see you review a 22' Hatchback Sport with the 2.0 and 6MT in the future

[@Kurt747]

I only watch this channel to watch the mezmerizing hand movement.

[@majacks79]

You do the 2023 Subaru crosstreck

[@iwhitty]

Topher, this or the GR86 for a daily??

[@sdalexander8505]

I’d like to add something to the discussion about the goodyear all-season sport tires that Honda has been putting on the Si for the 11th and 10th gen. When they get some wear on them (20-30k miles), you’ll find that you can spin them way too easy when you hammer down in 2nd gear. They also become absolutely terrifying to drive in heavy rain. That was when I had to make a switch to continental dws06 tire. Confidence in all driving conditions is a must for me. When new, the goodyears feel like a great tire. Stiff sidewall with rim guard that makes the car handle very well. This does well for test driving first impressions. They’re also on the cheaper side.

[@znghant]

Those Continentals are honestly such a great tire for the X/XI.

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

I'll tell you a weird little secret now that you are one of us, I find that if you always double clutch, or coast blip then clutch you wouldn't want to drive anything else（other than a manual），ever but if you just do normal rev match some times, only sometime, you do feel automatic transmissions is a nice thing. get into the habbit of this and you will know I can't describe why this is, I urge you to try. edit：oh god you are not one of us，I mistook you for Tedward.

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

I gave it a little thought, here is what it is playing will "the blip" becomes a totally different thing once you do double clutch down shifts only now you get feed back from the gear nob, it wants to slid in, even for 1st gear the car rewards you by telling how good that blip was with a mechanical feel in the lever secondly it nolonger takes brute force to put it in any gear it removes that one little bit of down side of manual transmissions that little bit of savagery，unrefinement，that minor gripe into something that only this type of transmission can do，can enjoy it's fun，it's rewarding，it's effortless and smooth you shift slow and calculated，sometimes even having to blip for the gear lever once and then a follow up micro blip for the clutch you do it so slow it's like pulling your pants down for a fart but it‘s that much more civilized and cultured

[@b286guy]

Firm ride and noisy cabin would get tiresome for me on a really long trip.

[@damans8023]

Question - would you rather take the Si over the civic touring for daily driving car living in Miami

[@fpvmississippi]

Still running my 2008 and it’s premium only!!😊😊😊

[@92edro]

now THIS is a supercar

[@mistermornevanderberg]

This reminds me quite a bit of of my Jetta mk VI ...

[@xryurax]

Lol I thought I was tapping on a tedward video.

[@TheTopher]

Gotta stay confusing!

[@xryurax]

@@TheTopher you've bamboozled us all. The more Honda civic content, the better.

[@mazdaspeedrx8]

Hi Topher, I know this is an older 1 year old video but I was wondering what you would think about having this as a dual duty car - As a Daily and the occasional track car (roughly 1-3 times a year). I was looking at this or the Integra A spec 6MT

[@no5thgear311]

glad you like the 11th gen Si because it seemed like you absolutely hated the 10th gen lol

[@TheTopher]

Was not a fan!

[@blueshark3098]

@@TheTopher I had the 10th Gen Si. I liked the ride quality as a daily driver in soft mode. How does this one compare?

[@jaden.sanderson]

These 11th gen Civics are no where in my area! Can't find one for MSRP online, let along check one out in person!

[@coryglueckert1665]

The electric park brake with a manual is a downer

[@thomasmacgruber6701]

The tire wail on concrete above 70 is really bad. It's loud enough that you can not have a normal conversation inside the car.

[@subvet3668]

I wonder if you can use individual mode for the good throttle response but not have the fake sound. Is the fake sound only in sport mode ? I'm glad at least in normal it appears absent.

[@RCXDerp]

I turn off the collision mitigation everytime I drive my 10th gen, shit is garbage.

[@TheTopher]

Yeah the 10th gen was a bit unnerving, 11th gen is a lot better but not perfect

[@deshaundsm]

So it does make Gran Turismo menu chimes, I though I was going nuts.

[@phillipyau4234]

Hey what's happening the Japanese should of put a real pulled up and down hand brake instead of a pull up& down hand button 👋👍🙂🤔

[@ryanb8736]

Why would you want to pull it while driving? It creates flat spots on tires, then you get wobbling down highway because of flat spots.

[@RCXDerp]

@@ryanb8736 Not in the snow or gravel haha

[@ryanb8736]

@@RCXDerp Well most people are not that bright to only use it in gravel or snow. Good to see you have common sense. Most people are not like us. I remember people always complaining that their car has a vibration at high speeds. I drive their car and laugh. I tell them, this car must do awesome power drifts and then they smile and say yes it does. I smile at them and say that’s the problem and glad you admit it. You have flat spots on the tires. Then they blame the company for putting crap tires on. I just shake my head.

[@darrenmathias9384]

@@ryanb8736 Gotta have humour in life sometimes. A lever handbrake in a snowed- in parking lot is a great stress-buster that I will miss now that everythings going hand-button

[@ryanb8736]

@@darrenmathias9384 Well they do it for cost savings. A manual handbrake cost more and it’s also more parts to install. Electronic is super easy with less parts and calibration is all software baked into ECU. Manual brakes need to be calibrated at factory and it’s more time and manpower on assemble line.

[@mitchwow5325]

Front angle: charger Side angle: bmw This thing looks sweet

[@jeffr6280]

Sorry, but rev hang in a Honda motor in inexcusable. Red line shifting is what the old SI's were all about, and it speaks to the fun killers at Honda that they chose to get lazy with this motor. I guess they figured the demand outweighed the need for excellence.

[@deniscdyck]

It has more to do with regulation tying manufacturers' hands. It's on pretty much every single new car now.

[@darrenmathias9384]

Rev hang is not a default behavior of a motor. It had to be engineered in. You can Hondata the ECU to eliminate it in 5 minutes.

[@ossBASHA]

@@darrenmathias9384 why did it have to get engineered in? Does it protect the drivetrain in some way?

[@Sk8ingCheese32]

@@ossBASHA for emissions I believe

[@BIGC728]

This motor is fine and performs great.

[@alex98053]

The firm ride and noisy cabin makes it a NO GO for me personally on long trips... that road noise is completely unacceptable. Firm ride is fine for younger kids, but for me...a hard pass on the Si

[@RCXDerp]

Then buy a base model with the open diff and soft springs.

[@alex98053]

@@RCXDerp does that address the road noise? What other compromises are there with a base model. Also, styling is subjective and while i've owned a Civic coupe brand new, this generation doesn't do it for me..

[@joshpinchuk7061]

Does anyone know if it's possible to get the Canadian version relatively easily here in the US?

[@kaneleonard8392]

Looked into that and its a bit of a challenge. You have to get written approval from both Honda USA and Honda CA. You also have to deal with border customs. Biggest hangup is that the car would have to be purchased cash.

[@lookoutforKURT]

think you can get a spirited enough experience as a street car in a manual hatch civic? I really like the hatch vs sedan but not enough to go integra haha. Plus you can get a weird spec with the 2.0 for ultimate reliability

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Tedward said in one of his video he got 48+ mpg.

[@Briguy288]

@TheTopher, how do compare this car to your BRZ? In terms of driving dynamics/fun/power?

[@StayCovert]

Man i want one so badly but I’m debating between this for performance or a sport touring with the 6 speed for heated seats, wireless charging, huge cargo and leather

[@In-obscurity-n7j]

I had to get the sport touring. It was wife approved. We are a little older so I get her point. Still I can't help but wonder what that extra HP & LSD would feel like. Then again the amenities in the ST are very nice to have, especially on longer trips.

[@tempestsquall5882]

it would be nice if the screen had an option to come out and lock away in a little keyed compartment to secure into so you didn't always have to look at that ugly thing when driving, and still not have to worry about walking away and getting it stolen.

[@mharro88]

Not a bad little car , we don't get this in Australia. We get the touring hatch and they want 47k AUD for it so Honda have basically priced themselves out of our market. Bought the i30 n-line premium sedan instead, has more tech than this and love it

[@RCXDerp]

Thats bogus I got a 2020 Si for 26k USD, they're the cheapest non open diff cars in the states. For some reason the stock tune meters in the boost by rpm, I changed it to just come on like an older turbo as soon as possible. They make good turbo noises with a cold air but the exhaust is pretty bland.

[@mharro88]

@@RCXDerp yeah it's a shame. Honda have sold themselves out in Australia

[@dexocadong344]

Virtually it seems equivalent to Honda Integra (182hp) allocated to China's market, which also has a manual transmission and is cheap (less than $19K ).

[@robertblack6630]

Not even close that is a substandard piece of junk that set up for a CVT

[@RCXDerp]

Chinese doesn't get the diff.

[@kazuhitoshi9701]

Would you say that the SI is a comfortable car for people with long legs? I'm a 6'5 guy with most of my height in my legs and it's quite annoying when I drive a manual 2002 2nd gen manual CRV as my knees are touching the steering wheel. It also puts a considerable amount of strain on my left knee due to the clutching (I'm in an awkward position as my knees are long).

[@RCXDerp]

I'm 6'2 and the seat is clearly made for 5'9 people. I'd give it a try but it's no ford mustang in the driver leg room department.

[@Ghosty_cat_]

I think that rev hang would really bug me. Maybe some tuning can minimize it, or a lighter flywheel

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

It’s mostly tune. Hondata fixes the rev hang and even has a no lift shift feature

[@drmvp21]

@@UnrelatedNonsense the 22 already has a lighter flywheel.

[@carsonj4031]

a flywheel wouldn't fix it. it's all in the ECU for fuel economy and emissions reasons.

[@RCXDerp]

I've tuned it out in my 10th gen and it's not as bad as a stock 11th. I'm sure these with a rev hang delete would be great.

[@TheZackFox]

Is there a video where someone goes over the adaptive cruise control in this car? I guess I just don't understand how it works on a manual car. I want either the Si or the Type R as my next car but I would also like to have some of those quality of life improvements. So I would like to better understand how it works I guess.

[@Chef_RM]

I believe it disengages at 30mph or below so that you don’t stall in 6th gear. Otherwise, it works as usual in other cars. I think you can also change gear while adaptive cruise is enabled and it doesn’t disengage.