Mazda Miata vs. Honda S2000 vs. Subaru BRZ - POV Comparison

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2018 Subaru BRZ Limited
Modifications: TRD Intake, full-catted exhaust w/unequal length header, Open Flash Tablet 91-octane tune, 17x8 Enkei PF01 wheels
Horsepower: 205 hp
Curb weight: 2,789 lbs
Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder Boxer
MPG: 21 city / 29 highway
Tire size: P215/45R17
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Dimensions: 167″ L x 70″ W x 51″ H
2003 Honda S2000
Modifications: K&N FIPK intake, Apex'i dual exhaust, Bilstein PSS coilovers, wider wheels
Horsepower: 240 hp
Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder
Curb weight: 2,810 lbs
MPG: 20 city / 26 highway
Wheel size: Front 16″ diameter, 6.5″ width; rear 16″ diameter, 7.5″ width
Tire size: Front: P205/55R16, rear: P225/50R16
Torque: 153 lb-ft
2021 Mazda MX‑5 Miata RF Grand Touring Manual
Modifications: Stock
MSRP: $34,525
MPG: 26 city / 34 highway
Horsepower: 181 hp @ 7,000 rpm
Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder
Curb weight: 2,452 lbs
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Dimensions: 154″ L x 68″ W x 49″ H
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0:00 Intro & walkaround
5:06 BRZ
15:47 S2000
33:09 Miata
42:37 Final Thoughts
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[@TheTopher]

Specs & Modifications on all three cars: 2018 Subaru BRZ Limited Modifications: TRD Intake, full-catted exhaust w/unequal length header, Open Flash Tablet 91-octane tune, 17x8 Enkei PF01 wheels Horsepower: 205 hp Curb weight: 2,789 lbs Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder Boxer MPG: 21 city / 29 highway Tire size: P215/45R17 Transmission: 6-speed manual Dimensions: 167″ L x 70″ W x 51″ H 2003 Honda S2000 Modifications: K&N FIPK intake, Apex'i dual exhaust, Bilstein PSS coilovers, wider wheels Horsepower: 240 hp Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder Curb weight: 2,810 lbs MPG: 20 city / 26 highway Wheel size: Front 16″ diameter, 6.5″ width; rear 16″ diameter, 7.5″ width Tire size: Front: P205/55R16, rear: P225/50R16 Torque: 153 lb-ft 2021 Mazda MX‑5 Miata RF Grand Touring Manual Modifications: Stock MSRP: $34,525 MPG: 26 city / 34 highway Horsepower: 181 hp @ 7,000 rpm Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder Curb weight: 2,452 lbs Transmission: 6-speed manual Dimensions: 154″ L x 68″ W x 49″ H

[@corey31]

It looks like you listed OEM wheel specs for the S2000, but these look to be 17” or 18” and at least 1/2” wider front/rear. Either way, I am now thinking I’ll need an intake to go along with my exhaust that’s on order!

[@mikecompagnoni]

@@corey31 ASA FR1 - 17x8/17x9, not sure they're in production any more.

[@corey31]

@@kontai6997 funny you ask this. I was in between buying the S2000 or going the ND route since prices are starting to get very close with the appreciating Honda. Once you do the math you’re spending so much just to get the ND to stock S2000 levels and even then you have an inferior interior and exterior design in my eyes. On top of that, I felt the Honda’s shifter and engine just have a much more unique/exotic feel. I still believe that the next step up from the S is a newer Porsche Cayman/Boxster, or, in other words $10-$20k more in the used market.

[@arshadpervaz2463]

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[@liveleak2jz323]

The fact that 20 yr old car is up there and performing better than those other cars speaks to the masterpiece that is the s2000

[@jamiefisher1430]

Not a fair comparison when the Honda S2000 costed at least 15k more than the Mazda Miata from the same era. S2000 costed more towards the Porsche 986/987 Boxster, so if Honda made the S2000 in 2021, it would cost at least 50k so it BETTER be objectively superior

[@vitreoushumor]

Also keep in mind the Miata will wreck far better with updated safety and side airbags

[@heikopanzlaff3789]

@@vitreoushumor Have a 2016 ND 2.0 with only 160 HP that would give any S2000 and a few others a hard day on a twisted road so I am not so shure about this performing better- thing ...

[@vitreoushumor]

@@heikopanzlaff3789 ND2 here, 2021, and I've driven some of the others. The Mazda is still my pick over the others.

[@vossler360]

Performance wise, the ND2 is pretty comparable to the AP1 by most straight line measures. Both have similar times to 60 (5.7 to 5.8 s), although the AP1 is faster in the quarter mile (14.2 @ 98) compared to ND2 (14.4 @ 96). Top speeds are similar. As for lap times, MT measured a faster time around Laguna Seca in an ND2 than an AP2 (1:48.5 to 1.50:7).

[@Trance88]

I'm looking at that Honda S2000 and I'm like. It's a freakin' 20+ year old design and it fits right in with the other two late 10's era cars.

[@Wizardnil]

Facts

[@MajorAddiction]

and still one of the coolest tachs to date

[@robertrishel3685]

That goes both ways; the reason I think I still love my FRS is because it reminds of a 90’s car when I drive it (gave up and pulled the anti-lock fuse to disable all the “help”). They’re cars that are simple, light and well balanced....it’s all I want. Given an unlimited budget, I would be thrashing around a 964 era 911, but since they have become stupidly expensive, the driving experience from my very raw FRS suffices.

[@dasppg9737]

@@robertrishel3685 they’re simple till you lose your keys. Then they get very very complicated and expensive.

[@SashaM0915]

Look at a FD rx7 and it’s the same

[@iantaylor4294]

I really hope these sub 300hp RWD manual cars continue to sell well, so that the beancounters at Toyota, Mazda and Subaru can allow these engineers to continue developing these enthusiasts cars. I also hope Mazda brings a production version of their 'RX-vision' concept car - whether it be a rotary engine or their upcoming straight six 3 litre engine. It would've been great if Mazda produced a proper coupe version of the MX-5 ND too - as a trackday junkie, I would appreciate the structural rigidity, aerodynamics, NVH and possibly more storage space from an already appealing looking lightweight car.

[@ogmechsftw]

mazdaspeed miata coupe pls it will cost 50k though lol

[@iantaylor4294]

@@ogmechsftw I'd happily pay 50k tbh! If it improves the torsional rigidity and aerodynamics, I'm all for it :D

[@matt25675]

@@ogmechsftw and it would be worth every penny

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@ogmechsftw Just stiffen up the Miata and shove the 2.5T Turbo in there with different tuning. Boom, new Mazdaspeed MX-5.

[@iantaylor4294]

@Sideways Singh 'u cant tell the difference when u drive them.' - wrong. That means you're not driving hard enough to tell those differences at the limit. Only exceptions apply to expensive supercar convertibles with carbon fibre tubs like McLarens and Aventador Spyder.

[@kurtglover3648]

Another thing that should be noted hugely in favour of the MX-5 and S2000 is that their suspension setups are far more advanced and allow for full adjustment (caster, camber, toe), whereas the BRZ can only do toe without modification. I play around with my ND's alignment specs pretty frequently, and a few degrees here and there can make it feel like a completely different car. With a small helping of camber, it absolutely eats corners

[@curtfox91]

Cant wait to get a ND2

[@wayward03]

Yeah but the Miata is much too soft, rolls like a pig until it hits stops and then moves the whole car. Also the BRZ has significantly more practical space than either car.

[@kurtglover3648]

@@wayward03 agree out of the box it's definitely tuned to be a more flamboyant ride on the street, but if you want to track competitively all it takes is some stiffer sways or springs (which lets be real, you'd probably end up modifying on any of the cars here)

[@isaiahking793]

Some BC racing coilovers for the BRZ is will fix all those issues. And the flat 4 sounds many many many many many many times better than the I4. S2K is the best out of all of them, but its 35K.

[@kurtglover3648]

@@isaiahking793 coil overs with a camber plate will give you a small ability to adjust static camber on a McPherson setup, but the double wishbones upfront on both the S2K and MX5 are just inherently more sophisticated. In general it's very difficult to get a good camber curve on a McPherson strut car, whereas double wishbone geometry will naturally increase negative camber under compression (the former can actually go into POSITIVE camber under compression). Definitely doesn't mean you can't make a good handling car without double wishbone (as both the BRZ and Porsche have proven), but anything the BRZ can do the MX5 and S2k can do better

[@jdd3993]

I currently own a BRZ, formerly a lifetime Miata owner (every generation, ND1 soft-top most recently) and I have only driven an S2000 once... I cannot disagree with any of your assessments but getting them all together in this format was just wonderful on headphones... cheers.

[@tommymello1693]

what caused you to switch and stay with the BRZ? currently driving an auto 86 but i would like to go over to an ND soft top in manual.

[@jdd3993]

@@tommymello1693 I like to road-trip my cars, and the Miata is just too cramped for longer journeys, even for someone my size (5'7" 140lbs). I really always wanted Mazda to make a fixed top coupe like the M-Coupe concept. I think that Subaru/Toyota really did everything I wished Mazda had done. I purchased mine used but very low mileage and have built it out more unconventionally: I did some strategic sound deadening, added a nearly full suite of Cusco body braces, the leather dash panel, and the loudest TRD sound generator (who doesn't love some intake honk?) and made my personal touring car. It is totally stock looking outside.

[@StevenMI89]

God the sound of the s2000 😍

[@DumStrung]

I have a BRZ and here I am watching a BRZ video even though I could just go drive it. As weird as it is I guess it's a testament to how much I love this car.

[@Walrider2033]

Light, affordable, rwd, front engine, coupe, 4 cylinder, fun. The formula for these cars is great and I hope it lives on.

[@joetaka7620]

Before the Government in UK + Japan bans new cars sales with ICEs by 2030, I really hope people appreciate and thank Toyota/Subaru + Mazda for building lightweight RWD manual cars at a relatively attainable price range. In the UK, these sorts of cars aren't as popular as the German hot hatchbacks with AWD and turbocharged engines - and I find it a shame that these 86/BRZ/MX-5s never really get the respect that they deserve, all because most people seem to care about straight line acceleration for that instant gratification, rather than learning the basic fundamentals of RWD driving techniques.

[@itheus]

They get plenty of respect up in the northeast :)

[@HasnaneArain]

Proud ND owner from London!

[@typerftw9476]

They get a lot of respect From my generation “teenagers”

[@TassieLorenzo]

Cars made in Japan have a 10% import tariff in the UK/Europe which doesn't help matters (nor the road tax based on CO2). In Australia, the Toyota 86 was originally a $29,000AUD (15,000GBP) car which helped sales a lot. :)

[@pinakmiku4999]

S2000 is Honda’s supreme engineering! Getting very expensive now as its aging gracefully

[@patrickcampbell28]

The AP1 is a nearly perfect car. I sold my first one and bought another a year later. Not making that mistake again!

[@PuReGhOsTT]

I just got a ap1 that looks exactly like your profile picture and it's my second car and my first manual and it's so much fun. I don't see it leaving anytime soon

[@user-tw4fd4wu1g]

I used to own a ap1, I agree its a nearly perfect car but mine burns a lot of oil and the ap1 has absolute no low rpm torque lol. For me I like ap2 better.

[@concacnay]

yeah buddy

[@matt25675]

@@user-tw4fd4wu1g you should get that checked, it shouldn’t be burning oil

[@TheSpread1]

Curse you, I have a nice one and I've thought about selling it. You're probably right. I have an M2comp that makes it feel slow, so I've thought about selling it for a 997.2. Thoughts?

[@gpuhog6208]

Love the s2000 video. This gets me hyped to drive mine this weekend. I'm glad I kept mine through all those years even when I didn't have a nice garage parking for the s2k and drifted around from apartments and condos. And now, I feel lucky to have my s2k parked in a proper garage. Never letting go of this one.

[@elestromusicgamesfun1101]

Selling my S2k is the worst thing I ever did.

[@saulsantos3653]

What’s the reason that you sold it?

[@Cheems09]

I want one so bad

[@elestromusicgamesfun1101]

@@saulsantos3653 - Student loans and I had just met my wife then, so we were starting up our life together. It was the right call then, but man, I still regret it. Awesome car.

[@hungrymotherfather]

Don’t worry, I made the same mistake and I regret it everyday 🥲

[@user-tw4fd4wu1g]

Same, it makes me even more regret it when I see the s2k price now.

[@smilepermile8165]

Honestly would happily watch this video of you talking about these lightweight RWD manual cars, even if it was 5 hrs long! I saw your instagram post on the GR 86 so I'm excited to hear how that new car compares to these trio of cars.

[@Kiloechonovember1]

I've had my S2000 for over ten years. Out of my cold dead hands...

[@Josh-js3uw]

how many miles? going to buy one with around 170k, anything i should be worried about?

[@ItsChris2k]

@@Josh-js3uw find out if the fluids have been routinely changed. Also if its an ap1 u might want to swap the retainers and get a valve adjustment just to be safe. Now if its a 2002 or before ap1 you should look into swapping the banjo bolt. Those are the main concerns regarding s2000s besides things like rips in the soft top

[@Josh-js3uw]

@@ItsChris2k never heard of a banjo bolt before whats that?

[@Nizheadgaming]

Bought an abandoned s2k with over 320,000kms. Started it the first time after years and it blew yellow smoke for a bit and was good. I drove it hard every day and it never gave me issues, ran like new

[@TurtlesandStuff.]

9:03 Dude runs the light and almost gets t-boned by the Porsche

[@ValentineC137]

lmao

[@Eman-lj7eq]

I agree with picking the s2k. My grandma has one and it’s so fun to ride with her. It’s pretty fast and it’s reliable because it’s a Honda.

[@HigeYatsu]

I feel like the comparison isn't all that fair for a stock MX-5 against the two modified cars, especially in terms of feel. Coilovers, alignment, wheels, tires, and exhaust go a long way for that little car. Hopefully you can get all three on a road again, all 3 with comparable mods, or all three bone stock--would be interesting to see if it changed your opinion at all.

[@chinoskateboardv]

Bone stock comparison I would have to hand it to the Mazda Miata. It’s literally the S2000 mixed with the BRZ. Newest model plus newest technology which equals it to being far more superior.

[@MultiSneakerLover]

He was definitely on something strong when he thought this was a good idea

[@JohnSmith-cj8rz]

Exactly, I hate it when it's not a pure-stock comparo....why bother? I'm sure someone could mod up a, say, Honda, to beat some Ferrari. Makes no sense and kinda wastes time.

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

The classic that is the Honda S2000~ One of the best cars Honda has made, for sure~

[@jasonyee6533]

That 48 mins flew by! What a great video…awesome job as always topher!! Btw the 6/5/4/3/2 downshifts at the end of the BRZ segment sounded heavenly!

[@SitnClutch]

I daily drove my S2000 for nearly 7 years, until I bought a TLX as a daily driver. It’s hard to beat that feeling going from my TLX to the S2000 and just enjoying it for the car it is. It’s a modern classic that I won’t ever sell.

[@turtleindustries5134]

Wow Daily for 7 years that’s inspiring

[@pinch-of-salt]

The S2000 and MX-5 are great but GT86/BRZ are proper foundations to build and enhance your skills as a driver and mechanic.

[@liamencabo868]

It’s good to see you back in the BRZ for a brief moment!

[@fap9589]

Thank you for your reviews, they helped me getting the nd2 three weeks ago. The car is super fun to drive and is great for covering long distances also. Only downside is that the cabin and trunk space are tiny, but they pose no problems to me. Made me a Miata fan for life, I think I'm going to keep getting the newer iterations until I can't drive no more. I hope they keep making them for a long time

[@Mr1wd]

What an awesome video to start my Friday!

[@arny9464]

Only +20 minute video on KZbin I’ve watched completely. Great video, man! 🙌🏼 Would love to own a S2000 one day 😪

[@carbrickscity]

Miata for me. Lightest, convertible, still available for sale.

[@williamlong2682]

Topher Fridays!😍 Been biking down my local auto row a lot recently and I was talking Miatas with the Mazda sales manager and he was so nice he even gave me his card and offered me a test drive! What a homie lol. Think I’ll have to take that up pretty soon here.

[@Nick-ez8zs]

I would choose the s2000 over the miata and the BRZ hands down

[@mad_squidward]

that Brz sound though pure satisfaction.

[@kuanchuen6647]

you are just perfect, honestly I watched without skip. Your vid have so much of info and the view of your cam is epic

[@fearlessknight1343]

Seen a few Honda S2000's in my area. Always brings a smile! Likely be going with the new 2022 BRZ as my first ever sport/manual :) Excited.

[@judge831]

I've driven all three and now own a 2018 MX-5 Club soft top. It has the most torque per pound of the three and the most high end feeling interior. I'm 6 foot btw. It does feel a bit tight, but not uncomfortable. I drove 12 hours straight in it.

[@XoVoX]

The Brembo/BBS/Recaro Package on a Club is hard to beat. Nothing new comes close to it at the price point. The extra back support versus the stock seats is worth it alone.

[@robertrishel3685]

Well done👍 I’m still totally in love with my 2013 FRS. I just can’t help it. It’s become “the beater”. It’s paid off, has a few minor bumps and bruises, but is 100% mechanically sound. I have a set of coilovers at roughly OEM ride height and OEM spring rates, a lighter flywheel, steel brake lines and better pads, fluids, etc. and a Nameless exhaust delete. The car is is perfect to me. I beat it to death every time I get in it and it is nearly always my first choice when I need to drive (my choices are a type R, mk6 GTI or my sons Challenger).

[@meryuk]

Oh, I love watching the Topher videos! Much more than any of the UK ones.

[@peter9930]

still one of the best videos you’ve made. Love watching this one from time to time

[@AdamKlingenberger]

Love the videos man, been subscribed for a while but I do appreciate the content! I have an ND1. Your POV Miata videos were some of my best resources when I was deciding whether to buy one. No regrets.

[@arg0see907]

this is the type of video I’m looking for. Thanks!

[@adamb3129]

You need to get another BRZ! Maybe the refresh. You’re always so passionate about them in the videos.

[@megaxboxx]

cringe, the "new" one is literally the same car with new bodysheet, cars underpowered garbage for 17 years olds, its basically a camry.... nah nvm the v6 camry destroys this "sports" car LOL

[@michaelwakim2198]

@@megaxboxx somehow every word in that sentence was wrong lol

[@adamb3129]

@@megaxboxx Then buy a Camry and be happy! Nothing cringe about my comment, but yours is!

[@juniorgarcia4744]

@@megaxboxx hmm hmmm hmmm sounds like you're a bit butt hurt about something ?

[@Blackdawn80]

The S2K is is such a special vehicle. It comes from an automotive era that will never happen again. You can keep your EV's and race them from stop light to stop light, no interest here.

[@BN99239]

Okay will do.

[@nates3080]

Just because the S2000 is a special vehicle doesn’t mean that EV’s can’t be special too. You can appreciate both.

[@Blackdawn80]

@@nates3080 When I was a kid I had a red Power Wheel Jeep, then I got older and I had a slot car set with the trigger accelerators. Now as an adult, I have no interest in electric cars because I learned that waiting for a full battery to charge sucks, and if a car is too powerful it falls off the track...Think about it. Nothing special about an EV.

[@nates3080]

@@Blackdawn80 that’s a very narrow-minded way to look at cars. A real car enthusiast appreciates them in all forms.

[@emmanuelperrina6105]

@@nates3080 i appreciate ev for eco city vehicle, no interest in ev pathetic performance and war of horsepower

[@Rayshader]

Fantastic overview! A clear fav from your videos. Thank you

[@caydenbryner9613]

Damn, driving the BRZ must be like breakup sex for Chris 😂

[@alex_6315]

He broke up?

[@LucasG898]

@@alex_6315 no, he used to own a BRZ himself

[@Austinomon]

@@alex_6315 dude really lmao

[@chinoskateboardv]

As an owner of an AP1 S2000; here’s my take on which car I would buy given my own scenarios. S2000: I have another daily and the S2000 is a weekend car (Drive it once a week or once every two weeks) Miata: I want a s2000 like feel but I want that luxury/newness feel (I have a daily driver but this will be the car I drive 3 or 4 days out of the week depending on how I feel) BRZ: this is my only car I have and I want a sports car that I can comfortably drive and easily modify to make it look clean.

[@colemancrug]

Thank you for doing a proper POV video of the S2000. I owned an AP1 with similar mods and daily drove it for 5 years. It was great to hear again the fantastic sounds that made my day to say so enjoyable. I’d love to buy one again before they get too crazy expensive.

[@z32luvr]

Little too late for that.

[@driveri1435]

@@z32luvr i was about to say the same..

[@BrokenStatues7]

Awesome video as usual. I’d be highly interested to see the ND Miata with a couple mods. It was the only stock car in this video so a bit disadvantaged

[@FallenArtemie]

I just got a ND1 Miata GT and I am absolutely loving it. I long for work to end so I can hop into the cabin and take it for a spin. What I love most is how it feels to drive. The fact that I'm 5'8" but feel so big in it, the steering wheel and gauge placement, and the way you can see the fenders rise up all make me feel like I'm in a little British sportscar, but with the quality and finish of Japanese OEMs. I'm new to manual driving too, so I think this was also a great shifter for me to learn on. I was also looking at the 86/BRZ but I personally don't like the look of it. Didn't have the S2000 on the list at all, but I've heard that it's not a forgiving car so it would've been bad for a beginner like me.

[@muayadabdullah2998]

LOVED IT!! the fact that we kinda have same taste is really great. absolutely liked that manual transmission in the BRZ

[@johnm5131]

hits the nail on the head with many of the RF comments. The first one was spot-on: "you either have leg comfort or back comfort". It is my only disappointment with the car. You can't get comfy!

[@infidel900rr]

Always wanted an S2000, just never thought I could swing it as my only car. Now I've got room for two cars and prices are going up - this video makes me want to just go for it.

[@m4r_y0]

great video. and this brz the way it's modded is my dream setup, no torque dip and keeps the center of gravity low.

[@ThePilotGear]

Great video, as per usual. I'm a Miata man. I've driven every generation now and my favorite is the ND2 soft top in 'GS' trim (with the LSD and sport bits). If I had the money, that's where it would go. But I don't, so I bought an NB2 Miata which I feel is just about the best compromise I could have made. I've never driven an S2000 nor a BRZ but I was so tempted to buy the latter. Each of those cars are just about perfect; no wonder there are so many people comparing the three.

[@ruinedmedia3053]

Im 19, about to turn 20, 6’1-ish, and a full time college student. I was between these 3 cars and chose a 2020 brz as my first car, and I don’t regret my choice. It’s comfortable for my size, and it drives great. Sure it’s painfully slow, but that helps keep me from wanting to drive reckless, and it is the right amount of practicality for what I need. My only regret is not getting the performance package, but I can always upgrade later on. Plus brembos are more expensive to maintain. My poor clutch was very forgiving in the first month of owning it, and the time after getting use to it has been extremely rewarding. Anyways, I just wanted to voice my satisfaction with the car, and how I strongly agree with just about everything this video stated about it.

[@EctoPlasmic]

I can't wait till Topher reviews the 2022 GR86/BRZ

[@IStratz]

I would have loved to see an RX8 in here as well. It gets a bad reputation for the rotary, but it’s such a fun car. 9K redline, 200whp, and a really really good chassis. Sounds cool as well. If he lived near me, I’d let him review my RX8 lol

[@mechtech104]

For real, I feel people always forget the RX8 in these comparisons . You could find one in good condition for a quarter of the price of all of these.

[@ogmechsftw]

@@mechtech104 and 4x the running costs

[@TheTopher]

Never driven one but I really wanted an RX-8 back in the day!

[@BReal-10EC]

@@TheTopher RX8 is an S2000 "sedan". Loved my 04 more than any other car I've owned (including Miata). Just wish it was built to last.

[@IStratz]

@@TheTopher If you ever get the chance to, I would love to see a video of that.

[@curtfox91]

Love this Video im about to sell my 2014 FRS and pull a ND2 club. And im seriously going to be making pull vids just like this 🤘😁

[@silentvalue]

I stopped the vid after the s2000 segment. Had an ap1 with ap2 gearing, and bolt ons for 7 years as my daily. I traded it in for a new mk7 GTI, which is still the nicest car i've ever had, but it's just not the same. I'm glad i was able to truly experience that machine. It's such a pure driving experience, and those who have never driven one just won't understand or appreciate it.

[@JustinDoesTriathlon]

Man, the deep crystal blue / white interior on the Miata is fantastic, but so hard to get right now. I'm soft-searching for one: There are literally only 4 DCB/White/Softtop/GT/Manuals for sale in the US. 😬 Great vid!

[@gunnitreck]

Very nice comparison, I own a stock Toyota GT86 from 2019 and I m pretty happy with it! Practial, daily useable, fun to drive and moderate costs! I don t need to count seconds, just very good chassis and sportscar feeling, even if I ve to admit, that the look of the Miata RF is also wonderful, I still love the Brz and GT 86 looking awesome!

[@chadhawkins478]

When a car (S2000) of 20 plus year old design is constantly compared to it's modern competitors, you know it is a classic in it's purist form. I'm curious to know from the comments of other cars that would fall into this designation?

[@tonytouchz757]

To all fairness the first mx5 (1990 to 98) hold themself well in this class too even if they are even older.

[@chadhawkins478]

@@tonytouchz757 I couldn't agree with you more. There is so much about the MX5 that can be appreciated and should be celebrated.

[@CanisLupus_666]

Have driven all 3 cars. 1. S2k 2. MX-5 3. BRZ … not driven the new BRZ/GR86 yet… but there‘s something glorious about being able to drive topless…

[@Noukz37]

What a video man! Thank you so much for doing this! After a long think, my choice would be... a W30 MR2 with a 2ZZ-GE swapped in. :-D

[@alphaares6027]

Watching this at school lol😂 nice comparision video man 👍

[@calebellis2910]

Saw the 86 sticker in the window of the BRZ and then you said a toyota engineer drives it ;) good stuff

[@georgeturcu5537]

Had for one year a 2006 S2000 in red and black interior. Bought it in 2009 with just 21000 miles for 19k. What a car!!!! Just pure fun

[@thegerman3911]

Im 6,2 and drive a 2017 Miata Sport and love it and fit just right.

[@ravesilly]

"Now I've matured and bought a Subaru" This is the first time I've heard "mature" and "Subaru" used in the same sentence

[@jennytobias2281]

Looking forward to the launch

[@zaneprice6560]

Best sounding brz I’ve heard

[@JFXtreme96]

Great video! I personally own a modified 2017 Toyota 86 and I love it. But I’d love to drive and s2000 and ND2. Hopefully one day get the chance of owning an S2000 before they skyrocket to unachievable prices 😁

[@z32luvr]

Too late

[@JFXtreme96]

@@z32luvr certainly up there! But I’d still be willing to pay if I had the money. I’m in Australia and cheapest one is now 40k AUD, used to be 14k around 6 years ago haha

[@barron204]

Great video. I’m surprised at how low the sales figures are for the BRZ/86/Frs and the S2000. They are great cars. SuperspeedersRob had a different opinion on the S2000. Drew Peacock has a satirical opinion on the BRZ/86.

[@christianmo103]

really enjoyed this video, thanks

[@Lobo_Argent]

If you own anyone of these three machines, you’re winning. Kudos

[@kk-vm9ni]

Loving the videos

[@dreamdrivedrift]

That's a good garage. I also have a BRZ performance package as a fun daily and S2000 as weekend/track/more-hardcore car. We have an Accord for the times we need something more practical. It strikes a good balance.

[@Kev1nK05]

where did you take these for a spin? I have an s2000 in lower MI and I've been looking for some nice roads to take it on! Also great comparison video, really showcased all of the cars in this!

[@Benscars]

This is sick, I love my s2k

[@DekiaryCarter]

A 48 minute driving video? YES PLEASE!!!!

[@rampagedingo]

This brings back memories!

[@bhearing7681]

I always wanted an s2000. Instead I bought an FRS and a Prelude This was a beautiful video

[@pottersi]

Review of the S2000 was spot on.

[@scrutch666]

when he said to take the s2000 out to get a coffee in the morning and to rev it up to 9000 it described basically every of my mornings if the weather allows it. Coffee got expensive :( started to brew by myself before the drive now i need to figure out how to make gasoline myself

[@kurtglover3648]

Been waiting for this comparison forever! Thankfully wasn't too hard holding out, because Miata is always the answer

[@bobbyrios2k223]

When I was looking for a car in 2017 i tested a bunch of cars and it came down to S2000 and BRZ.. the brz is a good car, but that engine just didn't have it.. then i got into the S2000 and its just heaven! Its a 08 S2k so no 9k rpm, but its still awesome. Been daily driving it for 4 years and its mostly good..just the seats can suck for long drives and of course you cant haul big items. Anyways.. im babbling..this is a great video!

[@wynnsimpson]

Thanks for your video. I drove an s2000 for the first time the other day and all I can say is it transported my old soul into a 22 year old.

[@MeistCJ]

I've driven my S2k daily since 2011. If I knew how much they'd be worth now, I'd likely not have but I don't regret it at all. Amazing car. Looks great, sounds great. Goes well for a NA 2.0. All round it's great, not too much to talk bad about at all

[@sadubone]

I drive an Acura RSX with a few light mods that is a lot of fun. I've looked at all of these cars and drove two of them (BRZ, MX5). I didn't find them that much better to justify spending the money. I would love to be able to afford a good S2000 or Boxster S though. Thank you for the comparison it's awesome.

[@dowroa]

I love seeing these reviews... then I remember I am 6'0" 220 and I am not fitting in the other two well. *sigh* Nice review, and don't forget the BRZ can fit a frame mounted 2" slambert hitch, which means you can just hook things up to the BRZ and use it (and easily take it off!) without much work. The BRZ, from my research, is just the jack of all trades. Also, good if you don't want to burn the top of your head ;)

[@wredmatic]

How's the headroom in the BRZ at your height? I tend to like having my eyes sit at the middle of the windshield (vertically, of course) and was wondering if I could accomplish this with the stock seat in the BRZ/FRS (I'm about the same height as you)

[@matthijsgerretse3217]

I am strongly biased towards Mazda, so I'll talk Miatas only, but I'd choose an NA over any ND in a heartbeat. I daily an NA, but had to drive an ND (softtop) at work, so I thought I'd do some comparing. IMO, the ND feels a lot more serious than the NA. You're sat lower, the throttle and steering are much more responsive and sensitive, and the throttle pedal is a lot deeper, so you have to brake a bit harder than you would in normal traffic if you want to heel-toe. Though, perhaps the weirdest reason I'd choose the NA is the lack of infotainment. I'd rather have no infotainment than Mazda's old system. It's just too slow and confusing. Unlike most Miata fanboys though, design is not something I mind about the ND, because the only Miata that ever smiled was the NC2.5, the NA looks kinda disappointed, the NB is kinda evil, and most NCs don't really have a face. I think Mazda did a good job with merging the old Miata designs with their new "Kodo" philosophy (fun fact as example; the ND is the only Mazda currently available whose grille and headlights aren't connected). I am jealous of that ND's spec though. I actually remember asking my co-worker if Deep Crystal was available on the ND before they updated it. Deep Crystal with white leather is my favourite combo on any new Mazda tbh.

[@argentinodelavillacomerata2399]

2000 NB SE for the win. I love it 🥰

[@Dragon228833]

That Miata’s color is amazing

[@Dragon228833]

Wow past self I agree 🥰🥰🥰

[@obeb787]

cant wait to see this same video but with the new brz/gr86

[@Jake-im2lv]

That brz is how 4 cylinder modified exhausts should sound like. No pops or bangs or raspy fart or trumpet sounds.

[@PuReGhOsTT]

I just got a Ap1 S2k and it's an incredible car. Ao much fun to drive and the looks you get in this car is great!

[@slick4415]

Looking to get one of these for my first car. Aesthetics matter to me and I believe the Miata is the least attractive in that area. The S2000 seems so visceral to drive but I believe the BRZ looks the best. I wouldn’t mind putting in the work to supercharge the BRZ but the S2000 seems so raw and fun. I have a hard time really choosing between these. Would love your guys’ input.

[@Slapshot544]

The fact a 20 year old Honda is still being compared to late 10's cars and still performing as good or better in most cases is crazy. Never selling mine.

[@RobVee.]

great video sir

[@lisandro12349]

The S2000 man. Damn I want one

[@benhubert8925]

Best…video…ever. Enough said.

[@adamrozman]

Great content

[@isaiahyeh5754]

where was this filmed , the roads you were on are beautiful

[@joaquinduran2235]

I'm watching this while I'm high and when he's ripping the brz and said this thing sounds *pause* the business had me dying💀💀💀