The Valenti Show with Rico - Is Mel Tucker Making Excuses?

[@charlesnixon6988]

SCORE BOARD Becky--23,001 ** Blackmails--0

[@josephcommane6597]

He makes valid points and he's not wrong!

[@LetsssGooooooooo]

Boy did he pick the wrong lady to beat off over the phone to 😂

[@wyattbarnes9641]

Tuck coming

[@DB-xp9px]

a whole new spin on that - hilarious lmao

[@wyattbarnes9641]

@@DB-xp9px Lmao wonder if they’ll talk about that or just keep going after Harbaugh for minor recruiting violations

[@DB-xp9px]

@@wyattbarnes9641oh, i'm sure mike & rico will take as many jabs as they think they can get away w/ as has been their narrative for years. they've backed off a bit the last cpl years but they have a long history of spinning everything into a bash on UM

[@dmalak4509]

Talk about hypocrisy! Mike was calling people “racist” for criticizing Tucker last year. Look at Valenti now. He’s saying the same stuff fans were saying last year.

[@spartandogs3126]

That is absolutely true I remember him calling everybody that last year if they criticize Tucker in anyway. He uses the race card when it’s convenient for him.

[@stevekov6740]

@@spartandogs3126 Right? He also said 'let's see what Mel does with the staff this offseason, if not much changes, THEN I'll join you and freak out.' Well, he waited until now to go after Tuck at all really and he didn't have a good angry rant until the MSU-Penn State game got moved to Ford Field (the rant where he used the word capitulate about 8 times).

[@Tpackage-my8dx]

Little brother

[@spartandogs3126]

Little sister

[@stevekov6740]

Again, Mike's an entertainer and he rips on both sides. That's why he's so highly rated, and that's why I tune in 2/3 of the time or at least catch up on KZbin.

[@jonathanmoody390]

Not necessarily. When UofM loses to MSU he'll do a whole day broadcast on it. When MSU loses to UofM it's a half hour to an hour, then it's the classic "I'm not doing it" phrase.

[@curiousdetroit]

​@@jonathanmoody390ok, don't lose then

[@HotspurFC-cu6ny]

Fans of both schools hate him because he doesn’t take sides and rips them both equally im Michigan fan btw

[@fredleinweber2819]

He calls it like it is in terms of the team but he takes so many stupid shots at UM fans because he is so bitter. He reeally thinks UM fans have this "ivory tower" like position and we look down on the rest of college football. So annoying when he cannot just rip the team he has to rip the fanbase just to try and garner a reaction.

[@fredleinweber2819]

@@curiousdetroit Hes right though

[@Closed_Ai]

I wonder if Mel is smacking it while on the phone with these guys

[@frankpatraziebe5515]

Tuck woke Oscar The Grouch.

[@stevekov6740]

Lol and Rico is Telly when he was in his on again/off again phase where he was an Oscar wannabe. At least that was the premise when I was a kid in the late 80s/early 90s.

[@bmonty1915]

You love to see it

[@Bobby_Bahama]

“Don’t get bitter, get better.” - Jim Harbaugh

[@SBSBuckeyeG]

Coming from the guy who habitually gets bitter.

[@bradg5000]

@@SBSBuckeyeG could say he’s also got..better

[@fpanadero2626]

...get NFL bro to help!

[@perfectsense3240]

@@SBSBuckeyeG I do reckon he got better too

[@dustinschalk8825]

He used to practice bitter , then he evolved and got better . Nows he’s better equipped to banter about others getting bitter . But of course this in turn makes others even more bitter because they haven’t gotten better . Oh well. Better them be bitter then us! I sincerely apologize . I get carried away

[@Eaaatlife]

I love it! Go blue!

[@SamuelMiller-qf7qi]

Top 20 football program in America? Maybe for a couple years under Dantonio or whatever but msu isn’t a top 25 football program.

[@SamuelMiller-qf7qi]

14-16 in bowls and .600 career win percentage

[@charlesgilbert2054]

Michigan State is the Ferrari in a trailer park.

[@YTSparty]

The irony. MSU just built a $78M lockerroom. MSU is paying their coach $9M/year. His coordinators make over $1M each. MSU looks to be getting $100M/year from a TV contract.......and Tucker comes out whining about needing $12-13M in NIL.....LOL. Yeah I guess times are tough...

[@Brick1978]

Mike, I got news for you M S U is not winning a little big ten title any time in the next 20 years, especially with the addition of great programs like U S C and Oregon. The only team in the big ten that has proven to beat these teams is Ohio State and that won't change. Even Michigan will fall in the standings because they have refused to play top 5 or 10 teams. When Michigan is forced to play those type teams, they will fail too !!!

[@SR-hf3hx]

He blamed dantonio, this is year 4....also blamed the kids last year numerous times during pressers

[@vard006_1]

Right. How many times did we hear ‘it’s not scheme, it’s execution.’

[@SR-hf3hx]

@@vard006_1 I'm a wolverine fan....and it makes me sick even when its sparty, when the coach blames the kids...like clearly it isn't your o line or lb or rb fault you didn't have a place kicker the whole season lol

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

That's why players aren't even taking MSUs NIL money. Players don't want to play for a coach who makes $10 mil a year and then takes no responsibility.

[@SR-hf3hx]

@@Jon.A.Scholt he's a total clown...I don't know how that fanbase lives with this , especially the $$$ he makes...he's a fraud with no track record as a head coach

[@bw5043]

He's still blaming Dantonio. I think he mentioned it on the BTN that he didn't have a good situation or something when he came onboard. It's a pretty lame excuse.

[@JermTOOL]

Valenti is spot on here. Mel is a cop out.

[@joeplonka6568]

Stay off this site blue belly

[@stevekov6740]

@@joeplonka6568 you're the type of spartan fan that reminds me of how much fun it is to watch Michigan beat Msu. Now, since it's opening week which is like Christmas for me I will stop there and peacefully say enjoy the games & welcome football season!🍻

[@YTSparty]

We should have hired Mike Tressel, paid him $5M and let him do Dantonio magic of coaching up 3-stars but giving him the money for a top-end staff.

[@Bradley94belletire]

😂 hell no dude. Tressel would’ve been bad. Fickell was the huge loss.

[@YTSparty]

@@Bradley94belletire Tressel is the defensive mind behind Cincinnati/Fickell. He coached Sauce Gardner. He's a Dantonio disciple. MSU needs another Dantonio, i.e. a coach who doesn't need 5-stars to win.

[@Bradley94belletire]

@@YTSparty no they don’t dude. You must be really old. Dantonio’s style won’t work today. You need 4-5 stars to win games. College football has changed and you can either accept it and adapt or refuse and lose. Dantonio flamed out because of the latter. Tressel is a good DC but needs experience.

[@YTSparty]

@@Bradley94belletire You're actually completely wrong. Dantonio flamed out after getting his best class ever. He finally got a top 12 class and it was his downfall. It set off a chain of collapse. I don't think stars matter any more now than in 2015. How many stars was K9?? Honestly, Tuck talking about needing to get better players makes me sick. He should bust his hump and find diamonds-in-the-rough and coach them up. It sounds like he's lazy and just wants ready-made players.

[@Bradley94belletire]

@@YTSparty Dantonio’s downfall was not firing his assistants. Everyone knows that. MSU won’t ever beat OSU the way Dantonio did. If you honestly think MSU needs to stay away from 4/5 stars then count on more 5-7 football. Because of 4 players, where 3 made a mistake at a party and still could very well been innocent. The only piece of shit was Austin Robertson. Dantonio’s offense was the worst I’ve seen and never changed it. Defense was great. MSU needs to run the spread or a fast attack

[@marlonmilanno289]

If MSU was a Blue Blood, then what Tucker is saying wouldn't be an issue. But when you're trying to build to that everybody has to get on board. Facts

[@slippery646]

tuck just came all over your face valenti! lap that shit up homie

[@ericaallispn7284]

Pj fleck has 3 seasons of 9 wins or more same time frame team that humiliated tucker makes half his salary

[@supremetaco5]

People here have not been following msu recruiting at all, MSU lost out on two of the top linebackers in California finishing number 2 with both of them. He’s currently sitting second place with the #1 IOL in the country. MSU is also sitting second place with David stone, if MSU had good NIL We would land all of these players. Mel tucker is right

[@supremetaco5]

Also when was dantiono gone into Florida & California stealing top talent? Tucker has landed the #2 Qb in California class of 2022. Also landing the #1 Qb out of Oregon, which he was #6 Qb out on the west coast sitting behind 5 California QBs. Tucker is building something special

[@YTSparty]

I keep saying it, you're going to see NIL fatigue. Donors were furious when Keon left, because with NIL you can give a kid $1M and he can walk the next day. There are no guarantees with NIL. And players are taking advantage. Chuck Brantley was getting paid and he threatened to leave. NIL is a donation. The only thing you get on your return is better football. It's nothing like a yacht. It's not even like a political donation where you benefit. The best you get is bragging about how rich you are. And if people aren't donating, maybe they aren't sure Tucker can deliver with better players. It's like Glen Gary Glen Ross. Tucker has to prove he deserves the Glengary leads. Like Alec Baldwin says, "these leads would be wasted on you". Why dump money into a coach who can't take advantage of your donation? It's money down the toilet.

[@tarnuemassaquoi]

They BOTH have a point. I think the timing of Mel Tucker’s comments is a little premature because Mel’s gotta show & prove & elevate this program.

[@ymarie3017]

Well if Tucker can't solicit the necessary funds from boosters etc...he could always take a pay cut and donate that.

[@flash521]

Excellent point that NIL isn’t a forever excuse. There is enough FB talent of 3 and 4 stars to develop under superb coaching to be competitive. - On the other hand - having the BEST PLAYERS certainly give FB programs and COACHES a big edge. - then AGAIN - NIL has botched up CF. There never will be a fair playing field WHEN it comes NIL money, facilities draw, program draw, coaching - on and on and on. - I’m unsure Mel Tucker is whining, he is talking about the situation. It was an interview. What will happen this year IF MSU wins 8+ games or upsets Michigan at E. Lansing- then todays conversation will be unembarrassingly buried. The truth? You guys make a living stirring the glass and eating coaches and their athletic programs for breakfast - the negativity sometimes is not over-the-top, rather like way under reality.

[@Gr33n247]

Mike hates that Tuck was honest.. We need to spend money on recruits period

[@stevenschmidt3464]

Maybe he could use some of his undeserved millions to pitch in

[@jacobwalters3909]

He hates that it’s his job to rally money and he waits till now to do it.

[@DB-xp9px]

sweaty mel making excuses for this team's performance is the least of their problems now. curious to see how mike/rico play this. since mike was already turning on mel, my guess this is will escalate that process and rico, he'll probably take the "let all the facts come out 1st" angle.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

This is what happens when a coach who is supposed to be a recruiter but he actually can't recruit. And don't tell me having a one top 20 class makes him a good recruiter.

[@supremetaco5]

You have not been following msu recruiting at all, MSU lost out on two of the top linebackers in California finishing number 2 with both of them. He’s currently sitting second place with the #1 IOL in the country. MSU IS also sitting second place with David stone, if we had a hood NIL We would land all of these players. Mel tucker is right

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

@@supremetaco5 Finishing second in a recruiting battle is almost completely worthless. It sounds nice but isn't worth anything unless the kid enters the portal in a year or two. And even then it's not like he just goes down a list and says, "This school was #2, I'm going there now." What matters is which kids you land. And so far, Tucker has been mediocre at his best. And NIL is just an excuse. Michigan has been #2 with a ton of players too because they literally have no NIL deals for freshman. But they've also been able to still land over a dozen 4⭐, even if their AD Warde Manuel is doing his best to murder the program by having a stone age view on NIL. Since Tucker got there their whole identity has just been "Tuck Comin". Seriously, what kind of offense is this team trying to run? What's the program trying to be? It just seems so ad hoc; so random and hodgepodge. This year is make or break. The recruiting trail has shown that kids aren't willing to jump on the "Tuck Comin" bandwagon. At best they're in "wait and see" mode. Another year of 5-7 or 6-6, and MSU is going to be limping into a new, much much more difficult Big Ten.

[@supremetaco5]

@@Jon.A.Scholt ok how is it worthless if we are missing out on schools who are brining in more money? Finishing second says that kids like Michigan state but there’s a missing piece. If you followed recruiting you would see msu is inches away from landing top recruits

[@zacklarson2918]

@@supremetaco5 we have the 52nd recruiting class for 2024. Whatever he is doing is not working out.

[@marvinkey7440]

Already Making excuses for reason why the season is going to be horrible this year. Yet "Tuck is coming."

[@cjennings2876]

i agree with Mike 100%! College football these days you have to have the money to get certain players on your team. If you don't have the money, your team will be average to bottom feeders of the conference .

[@j_r_junior]

Isn’t the “whining” Mike is referring to actually a (maybe not-so-) subtle fundraising attempt by Tuck-i.e. exactly what Mike’s asking for?

[@BABWearing]

Had the same thought. Thoroughly entertaining segment but I think Tucker is trying to poke the donors with those quotes.

[@hundenstihl]

Gotta keep jackin’!’

[@Tsweeney12584]

Mel got a bag because KW9 was an ultra elite RB and he got an unearned 11 win season.

[@bmonty1915]

UM fans would like to also send this message to their inept AD Warde Manuel. The door can hit him on the way out. Find an AD that wants to be the best all the time.

[@keithzastrow]

So many people are going to look so silly once this season is done and MSU ultimately finishes FAR better than most are thinking right now.

[@spartandogs3126]

I agree! MSU is going to be much better this year. We had absolutely no kicking game last year. We left a lot of points off the board because we were forced to go for it 3/4 of the season. And we were completely decimated in injuries and suspensions last year. This team is much deeper. The front seven are going to be one of the best in college football this year. And we’re extremely deep at the OL position which we haven’t had in over a decade.

[@Jsailor1210]

@@spartandogs3126one of the Best front 7 in the Nation! 😂 Won’t even have the top 4 in the B1G. 1. Michigan 2. PSU 3. OSU 4. Iowa

[@spartandogs3126]

@@Jsailor1210 I’ll come back to this comment later.

[@vollste]

How’s 2023 goin’ for Little Bro so far? 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@Jsailor1210]

@@spartandogs3126 how it’s going for you? 2-4 about to 2-5 after Michigan steam rolls you

[@ericaallispn7284]

Dantonios last four years was 27 and 24 Tucker is 23 and 21 both coaches had a one ten plus win season so basically the move to Tucker has profited nothing and paying him more than Dantonio?? Insanity nothing better describes this situation

[@Satchmojones]

Dantonio had more than one ten win season

[@ericaallispn7284]

@@Satchmojones yeah I know he did I'm just showing how the change to Tucker hadn't even improved on dantonios last 4 years compared to Tuckers first four paying 95 million to replace him I think state could have waited and been more selective but they got in an ass bitch hurry

[@michaelbrothers3823]

Mad props to Mike

[@byronbullough5739]

Great to know I’m not the only one who felt this way reading the article. Can’t bring me down a week before kickoff though, Go Green

[@stevekov6740]

Though I'm a Michigan man you are right on par with how you should be thinking. Let's face it, right before the 2021 season started NEITHER of us felt that good about our programs but we were just as excited to kickoff another college football season and were pleasantly surprised. It may look glum for MSU but you never know....

[@ericspicer5132]

At some point its gotta be get the money together and put up or shut up. For the 2024 recruiting class, Ohio State currently has 7 of the top 8 recruits in the Big Ten and every 5 star thats committed to the Big Ten. Can't be making excuses, unless the money gets put together and recruiting gets much better Ohio State is gonna run away with the Big Ten and Michigan State will be about 6th

[@michaelgiannetti3846]

Lol Mike laughing at the beginning sounds like The Count from Sesame Street 🤣

[@Gr33n247]

If Tuck was at Georgia they’d still win Nattys

[@YTSparty]

That's debatable.

[@stephencjacks]

If Mel was in fact referring to OSU. He better look around. Miami, FSU and several others are out spending OSU.

[@dancz11]

You named your football facility after your bball coach. You ain’t football

[@spartandogs3126]

Just goes to show you how much you know which doesn’t surprise me at all. let me explain it to you the biggest donor for the brand new football facility did not want it named after himself he wanted it named after Tom Izzo. He paid for it he can name it whatever he wants and that’s what he wanted plain and simple. Hopefully that helps with your confusion.🧠🤯

[@W.A.1818]

As John Wooden used to say, “You’re not a loser until you blame others.” Mike is dead-on here. Rico - I love ya, so just FYI - a soliloquy is speaking your thoughts aloud when you’re alone. A monologue is a (long) speech by one person during a conversation.

[@adgee5401]

an act of speaking one's thoughts aloud when by oneself or regardless of any hearers, especially by a character in a play.

[@xmen123ify]

MSU sucks at football . But please don’t talk about basketball 🏀. We are top 4 in the nation for basketball

[@spartandogs3126]

Walmart will get destroyed again this year MSU has a way better basketball program those are facts don’t compare the two.

[@michael7589]

Of course he’s making excuses.

[@jonathanmoody390]

Maybe if Tuck didnt rob MSU on his contract, you'd have more NIL. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@pachzotter]

MSU isn’t paying his contract, it’s boosters so your comment makes zero sense.

[@jonathanmoody390]

@@pachzotter exactly boosters are. Who do you think pays into NIL? Bro you can't really be this dumb. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ronaldmiller1949]

@@pachzotter They are only paying like 13 million of it. MSU is on the hook for the rest

[@brandonhughes7484]

@@pachzotter the school is not allowed to pay NIL.. Only outside people are allowed to do that. So, by saying its outside people paying most of Tuck's contract instead of paying NIL, you sort of still made his point.

[@ericaallispn7284]

When Brady hoke went 5 and 7 what did Michigan do they told him take a hike

[@billhicks5961]

Mel Tucker is a can

[@AcropolisGames]

Tuck Commin

[@ronaldmiller1949]

Tuck Stealin’

[@timothy8766]

Going to be a long season, hope I'm wrong

[@joeplonka6568]

Exactly what Melvin is doing

[@peashooter43]

Harbaugh does have his hand on the offense

[@sturedman4230]

Wonder how much Mike has donated? I’m guessing $0. Which proves Tuckers point.

[@allandstromquist8545]

My TV is broken will get it fixed by basketball season go green go white

[@ericaallispn7284]

How does a 11:and 2 team go 5:and 7 that's not dantonios fault

[@mgoboski]

I gotta defend Tuck here. Michigan/Harbaugh is a lightweight in the NIL space compared to OSU, Bama and Georgia too. Go look at our inflated recruiting class that only has 1 top 100 players compared to OSU's 8. This is coming off back to back B1G championships. The donor base at MSU and Michigan are to blame. They want to give money to coaches and get their names on buildings but they are above paying 17 year olds to go to their schools, even though that's how the sausage is made. Ohio State fans and donors want it more, period.

[@joshmiller6421]

how do the fans want it more? lmao total nonsense. Michigan crushes the transfer portal so you gotta take that into consideration as to why they are still competing..and they tend to pay the players already there

[@youngstacksbasegod]

@@joshmiller6421That’s transfer portal the hs recruits still want tons of many to go to a college for 4-5 years and the top 100 kids want millions

[@YTSparty]

In a way, schools paying a lot for NIL are dumb. OSU donors paid Ewers $1M, he bolted for Texas. Like I say in my post, NIL fatigue is going to set in. Paying a kid enough money to live the rest of his life without a job, and expecting him not to hit the portal is insanity. It's all money into the toilet. Your average fan isn't going to waste their money when tickets are $100/game and parking is $30. And donors aren't gong to waste money without any guarantees. Eventually NIL is going to dry up.

[@ericaallispn7284]

Makes a person skeptical in how msu spends it's money scandalous

[@keithzastrow]

LOL!!!! If anything that would be little sister.

[@stevekov6740]

Maybe so but not as bad as they do in the SEC. What I can't figure is why they didn't do much with their staff after last season. It's like they did what Dantonio did in 2019 after 2018. 'Switch up the church group dance partners' as Mike called it.

[@skovesonics654]

You just hate to see it 😂

[@ericaallispn7284]

Looks like a poster puppet team to pound on

[@beattywhite11]

Tuck Comin’? More like Tuck is Common. No matter who you recruit, you still need to develop. Even five stars.

[@ericaallispn7284]

Maybe tuxker needs to spend some of that 9.5 million he's getting then .hiring a coach who breached his contact with Colorado with a 6;and 7 record was what ??? Kind of lame brain

[@ericaallispn7284]

Ten years of little brother dumpster football teams rest of big ten just laughing at a piece of garbage

[@stevebayoffjr7221]

He said one of the top 20 programs in America lol

[@HokageFlete]

10 win season loading

[@emteller2945]

Mike actually ripped Michigan state and their coach? Finally . He’s so bias it’s crazy

[@ericaallispn7284]

I bet msu stumbles in two of the first four games or three

[@Gr33n247]

Saban was a .500 Coach at MSU.. We have disadvantages it’s just facts

[@YTSparty]

Saban beat ND, OSU, UM, PSU and Florida in his last season. And had a top 10 recruiting class the next year....had he stayed. Replacing the AD/President cleaned up a lot of those disadvantages.

[@stevekov6740]

@@YTSparty that was also the last season in which the Big Ten was the strongest conference in the nation. Michigan, MSU, Penn State, and Wisconsin all won 10 games and were quite dominant outside of the conference too including their bowl games. Amazingly too osu finished 6-6 and got no bowl (you needed to be over .500 to be eligible then).

[@ericaallispn7284]

Going be fun watching the humiliation of another little brother big ten bottom team

[@ericaallispn7284]

4 years dantinio is gone and your team is what dah tell me Spartans !?! Shit,? Good shit ?

[@alexbriggs3456]

You're struggling and clearly very miserable 🤣🤣

[@ericaallispn7284]

@@alexbriggs3456 why would a wolverine be miserable I'm criticuing a sour puss

[@ericaallispn7284]

@@alexbriggs3456 you need to get your facts straight on what's going on give .e your phone number your home address

[@ericaallispn7284]

If you got the guts

[@alexbriggs3456]

@@ericaallispn7284 I don't know what your problem is but, seek help.

[@jacobwalters3909]

I love mike velenti. I agree with him on Allen Haller we don’t care about olympic sports. Football first basketball close second. Everything else can die and I’m a kinda successful wrestler in mi. Nobody cares. I will disagree here though I think Mel is trying to rally the alumni and donors for next year “Dante Moore” 5 * qb out on Bellevue mi. Probably the best prospect to ever come out of Michigan as a qb. He lands him that’s his Tebow savor to urban myer.