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[@aliasalias8681]

So strange how the people who don’t have to fight the war are more in favor of it.

[@ludovicusbathory1715]

A policy as old as time. Old men bang the drums of war and young men stupidly listen to them. You think after thousands of years of this crap you think young men in all nations would tell old men to shut up and fight their own battles. As it is most young people dont want to fight which is a universal thing.

[@simoneidson21]

“War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other”

[@malum9478]

except for the 25-34 demographic. that one surprised me. that is, assuming this obviously bs poll were actually legit(doubt)

[@kray97]

Good observation.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

@@simoneidson21 I'd like to see anyone try to draft Gen Z, they will not be having it.

[@thatdognotthepuppy5809]

When Vaush said that Afghanistan is maybe half a country he's very correct. For context there are people living within Afghanistan that don't know their own nation exists. Seriously, they don't know what Afghanistan is, they just know their local settlement. In the 2000s coalition forces ended up meeting these people and they pretty much needed to have the last 200 years of world history explained to them to understand "What is the USA, what was 9/11 and why are we here?"

[@dynamicworlds1]

Yeah, Afghanistan is better thought of as a region that the world keeps trying to make ACT like a nation-state because we want it to be able to negotiate with it as a single entity.

[@Paul.......]

​@dynamicworlds1 well! We can't just have a bunch of land on Earth which does not belong to a nation-state!

[@dynamicworlds1]

@@Paul....... Normally that results in being conquered, but graveyard of empires and all that.

[@falconeshield]

They're still in 1799

[@YassinePineapple]

Ive had this same experience with the mountain villages in morocco. People know that there is some dude named “The King” but dont know who he is or what he does

[@Westlander857]

I can almost guarantee you that whoever answered yes on that poll would also vote no if they were asked if we should defend Taiwan or any NATO country

[@Juhz0r]

There are definitely neolib and neocon types who would say yes in both cases.

[@blackwatertv7018]

@@Juhz0r Both Taiwan and NATO nations deserve to be defended. This isn’t a “neo-con” or “neolib” stance

[@hayleyxyz]

​​@@Juhz0r Unless the populations of Taiwan or any NATO country wants to be invaded, they should get military aid. If you want to attach a disparaging label to me because of that, then so be it.

[@Juhz0r]

@@blackwatertv7018 I'm not saying they don't, read again.

[@farribastarfyre]

​@@hayleyxyzpretty sure when they said "in both cases" what they meant was "saying yes to both invading Iran and to defending our allies" not "saying yes to both defending NATO members and defending Taiwan"

[@freakishuproar1168]

Iranians are extremely diverse, ethnically, culturally and politically. It all gets side-lined though because they have the misfortune of being violently oppressed by fascistically exceptionalist brand of Islam, which we tactically look past the UAE's, Qatar's and Saudi Arabia's brand of Islamo-fascism because money.

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

Greed is the root of all evil has been the theme since the beginning of story telling LITERALLY. Yet we still pursue.

[@mrbooboohead157]

Money feel good 😍

[@RomWatt]

The countries in the Arabic peninsula ironically have even more authoritarian forms of government.

[@TheAmericanAmerican]

Ahhhh Capitalism and it's beloved pet maddog, Fascism. A pair made in non-existent heaven

[@falconeshield]

We can thank the US and the UK for that

[@griffindault]

There were some pretty serious anti-government protests in iran last year and it was looking like it was only a question of when not if the iranian people topple the regime. The US being an active participant in a war against Iran would almost certainly cause the iranian population to basically do a 180 strengthening popular support of the current regime and souring on the liberal ideals that were being fought for in 2022.

[@ludovicusbathory1715]

Funniest thing about those protest is that America loudly said they supported them and the Iranian protesters quickly told america to butt out. If America Israel and the rest of the west backs up and not do anything Iran's population could move towards overthrowing their regime.

[@dynamicworlds1]

A good observation.

[@Ahov]

Yup, that's what neocons want

[@Gloomdrake]

Instability in the Middle East is good for the billionaire class, sadly

[@ST-vf4ch]

sounds like a win-win for warmongers

[@Melggart]

I loved the article about the life changes of the taliban post victory, it was just too human. "Before I was living like a rebel fighter, it was heroic. Now I am just a low level government employee that has to do the 9 to 5 to get a low salary. I spend my days just browsing twitter and stuff. Also, the rent prices in the capital are too high!" So relatable.

[@craigstephenson7676]

“Can’t believe these gas prices, towing artillery for years straight killed the gas mileage on my Toyota”

[@claytonramsey9897]

Time skip arc of Gurren Lagann

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Maybe they need to rebel against the new government.

[@aaronmarks9366]

When reality looks like the Onion

[@nto779]

people who will be drafted: vote No people who won't be drafted: vote Yes I LOVE DEMOCRACY!

[@arthurgray172]

A perfect system with no flaws whatsoever!

[@Ihatemyusernamemore]

I saw this in action, this guy uploads videos interviewing RuZZians on the street, lots of old boomers and women were baying for blood knowing they won't be conscripted, while young Russian men were way more likely to not cheer on the invasion

[@aidandurkan15]

Just boomers trying to kill all of us. For good

[@studdude100]

Their likely would not be a draft. We have a HUGE standing military. Politicians know a draft is political suicide so that’s one of the major reasons we can thank so many tax payer dollars going into the standing military

[@jubjub444]

Why do you think people will be drafted?

[@parisky5195]

Lost my comment lol but my family is Iranian, just wanted to reiterate that most Iranians do not hate the West. In general they distrust Western governments (for good reason- the reason the Shah came into power was a 1953 coup backed by the U.S. and U.K., which overthrew the democratically elected government to install a puppet government) but Iranians are much more able than Americans I think to distinguish people from governments. Iranians in general feel positively about Americans, even if they hate the American government. (also thank you for pronouncing Iran correctly. I have a professor who says "eye-ran" and it kills me inside every time)

[@craigstephenson7676]

So basically, the Iranian people have critical support

[@lotuschorus]

Iran so far away. Couldnt get away

[@Morning404]

Thanks for this informative comment 🙏🏾❤️

[@alexmcbride7563]

While at college, I had the chance to meet an American Christian couple who had the chance to live in Iran for a few years as part of a peace and cultural exchange program. They remember their Iranian neighbors being some of the nicest and generous people they know.

[@TheMahayanist]

Invasion of Iran will be WORSE than the invasion of Iraq or any prior US invasion since maybe invading Europe in the 1940s. Like Iran is not an easy country to invade. There are a lot of people, huge complex geography, huge military. I highly recommend against doing so.

[@Cryptogram44]

I mean we’d sustain more casualties but we’d still win. Iran has a better army than many of those countries you mentioned, but still can’t touch the US especially when it comes to air or sea. Look up the F-22 intercepts of Iranian F-4s or Operation Praying Mantis for just an idea of how much we’d control those theaters. Land is the only place they pose much threat and once you have air supremacy established you have a huge upper hand.

[@redred222]

That's not happening air attacks might happen

[@malum9478]

well ya heard em mr president. this vaushite recommends against it

[@fluidthought42]

​@@malum9478 There's also the Millennium Challenge of 2002 that initially ended with a "blue team" (ie USA military stand in) loss because of the capabilities and strategems of "red team" (ie Iran military stand in). The exercise only ended with a blue team win after the exercise was your reset and new restrictions were implemented so as to make a red team victory impossible and a blue team victory inevitable. The whole exercise cost 250 million dollars.

[@rockmycd1319]

There are many roads and the US could wipe out Iranian air power very easily. It’d be harder than Iraq but it’s not nearly as difficult as people are saying

[@kenny6920]

We're living out all the terrible decisions from the trump admin at this point

[@soccerruben1]

Literally, the Middle East has made worst because this Orange Baffoons actions. There’s a reason James Mattis resigned from his Defense Secretary.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

And they're all Biden's fault because he's in power when the fallout from Trump happened. Trump losing 2021 is the best thing that ever happened to Trump. He'll win 2025.

[@abdurrahmansabri8181]

One thing Vaush didn't mention is the possibility of Saudi Arabia get nukes or some kind of nuclear guarantee from the us in response. Remember every additional nuke or nuclear armed state increases the likelihood of an accidental nuclear launch or strike. And of course having three nuclear armed countries with tense relationships to each other in a single unstable region has the potential to be quite disastrous.

[@JackDespero]

If the US gives Saudi Arabia nukes, then the end of the world is excluseively US fault.

[@Melggart]

I think it is a deal with Pakistan, actually. Saudi Arabia will have nukes immediately after Iran has them.

[@madeconomist458]

Iran is unlikely to develop the ability to strike targets here in the USA, and if Washington wants to stop the entire middle east from going nuclear will have to provide a nuclear umbrella to the gulf states.

[@studdude100]

Is there any precedent for a county giving another country nukes?! That seems insane to me

[@Eldrad235]

As an Iranian Canadian Vaush thank you for covering Iran correctly

[@JackDespero]

Because Iran is in a region of many earthquakes, it has historically been also one of the places where concrete gets developed. Precisely yesterday I was watching a video about how 2 meters of the latest version of concrete can stop bunker buster missiles which could penetrate 60 meters of normal concrete.

[@Giovanni_Giorgio_or_Giorgio]

Can you link the video (if you can't then from the /watch part is enough)?

[@omarishaque1753]

I second this.

[@frocco7125]

Concrete 2 just dropped

[@scottodhonnchu5034]

It's not entirely true to say the Ayatollah came to power solely on anti-imperialism. You're missing a few steps. Khomeini became the figure head of a diverse political movement that all opposed the Shah. It included, secularists, liberals, and especially communists. When the Shah was overthrown, he began to move towards absolute rule, but the deathnail in any alternative was Saddam Hussein's invasion. Khomeini was able to portray the invasion as a righteous struggle of the faithful population against the secular Arab socialists. Which was backed by the West. So it was a mixture of opposition to atheism, and the Wests support for that supposed atheism (in their minds anyway) that started this trend. Then after that, what Vaush says is correct.

[@joey_youtube]

YES THANK YOU a lot of this video felt like Vaush doesn't know enough to cover this topic

[@trianglemoebius]

Vaush never said they *solely* came to power on anti-Imperialism, he said their claims of such aren't unfounded. They've made other claims, too, and there are other reasons, but he was only talking about that specific one. Is it really too much to ask for people to not take everything Vaush says as an absolute statement? I swear, at this rate he's going to be talking about senate races and say something like "Okay so, the US has a senate" and the comments are going to be full of people going "Achtually, that's false, the US has a three-branch government so they also have a President and a Supreme Court!"

[@AceofDlamonds]

Iran was almost a "Western" country prior to the Islamists gaining control. The people in the metro places dressed like any place in Europe after the WWII period. And culturally and ethnically they were quite distinct from the Arabs who conquered eastward and brought Islam with them. The Middle East-Central Asian region unlike how most Americans seem to perceive it is not a single bloc of nations full of Arabs. It is quite diverse.

[@darkhacker1811]

You mean the Islamists that the US and UK helped put in control by staging a coup against the secular, democractic prime minister in the early 50's?

[@Runthemjewels]

While some of this is true, the way you emphasised the ethnic distinction from “the arabs spreading islam as they conquered” has a weirdly essentialist racial undertone. To my knowledge Iranians were still majority Muslim in faith at the time and whether or not some dressed “like Europeans” -read, they dressed like the image of industry & capital, that doesn’t mean arab muslims are some uniquely distinct, non advanced subgroup as a result of being arab Muslims

[@claytonramsey9897]

I’d say the important distinction isn’t Arab vs Persian, it’s the fact that Persian culture predates Islam in a way that I don’t think Arab culture does. My understanding is that the Arabian peninsula pre-Islam was a little like pre-Christian Europe, being a collection of tribes. Whereas Iran is more like China in having a civilization that dates to antiquity.

[@AceofDlamonds]

yeas@@claytonramsey9897

[@AceofDlamonds]

Well many Arabic speakers today even countries with Arabic as an official language are not really the original Arabs.@@Runthemjewels

[@shinystarmiestudios4179]

Israel VS Palestine (Since Israel has stated all Palestinians are HAMAS) escalating to WW3 would be absolutely wild.

[@deeznoots6241]

Absolutely wild… and yet entirely predictable even 50 years ago

[@Gee-xb7rt]

Netanyahu is just the filthy little thug to ignite it. Iran will bring its friends Russia and China who will love the opportunity for a land grab. Basically the planet against the US and Israel. Nobody else is going to be dumb enough to be Netanyahu's power bottom.

[@chins9217]

Even still unlikely. It was more likely to happen with Ukraine and look how that turned out. The Russians wouldn’t get involved in such a conflict anyway except by proxy.

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@chins9217I could imagine a scenario where this turns into a world war. Not likely, but if the US and Iran get directly involved with Israel and Palestine, China might invade Taiwan.

[@mrspaceman2764]

WW3 between who in this regard?

[@endaohalloran6649]

A small blindspot in Vaushs analysis here is the other major Islamic power in the region, Saudi Arabia. They would be just as likely to be targets of any nuclear strike from Iran as they both hate each other They don't have any meaningful military but they wouldn't just let Iran get nukes or hope the US steps in somehow. As always Middle East geopolitics is complex with multiple actors involved. Important to keep that in mind

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

But they are right now? What is Saudi Arabia doing to stop the ongoing nuclear development happening already?

[@undisputedchamp4317]

As much as irans government hates the saudis, i highly doubt they would EVER launch an offensive bomb let alone nuke anywhere near the major cities of saudi arabia. So much of the holiest places in islam are there. Mecca, medina, jeddah. Theres multiple caves, rock formations, mountains, ancient masjids that simply are too valued to the religion to ever be able to justify bombing. They will fight via proxy or in some middle ground or some bullshit.

[@sic5764]

​@@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 They support the pakistani regime financially, mostly so that in they could get nukes from them in the case that iran gets them. Furthermore two important parts of the deal to recognize israel was firstly the transfer of US-nuclear reactors and enrichment facilities both for energy making and probably nuke making and secondly a more binding deal for american security and protection (think similar to NATO, Japan, SK or Israel). The deal fell through though, thanks to the Hamas attacks. And for your question, well nothing really, there is realistically speaking nothing they could do, apart from some sort of sabotage missions like israel and the US have carried out for a long time like Stuxnet, assassinating nuclear engineers/scientists and whatever else that they keep secret.

[@danecottee6859]

I am so grateful that either Vaush didn't spend a whole hour looking at the mountains of Iran or that the editors cut it out of the segment. The latter seems more likely.

[@alexs1954]

Israel wouldn’t invade Iran. Mostly because they can’t: the two countries do not share a land border. It also lacks the logistical and manpower resources to actually deploy troops to Iran.

[@kameradin8964]

Do people really think Israel is just like going to sail through the Suez and around Arabia just to invade Iran(bad idea btw) or cartoonishly fly their entire invasion force over Syria and Iraq and do paratrooper only(also a bad ide)

[@damham5689]

Israel wont. Thats why Bibbi has been trying to get the US to attack Iran for them since the 1990s.

[@TreeFiddehSeven]

They won’t have to because the US will

[@RomWatt]

Israeli leaders would be arrogant enough to try anyway.

[@DrinkTheKoolAid62]

They do have nukes

[@kai_plays_khomus]

Iran already had facilities with centrifuges for uran enrichment running prior to the now cancelled deal. At one occasion Israel managed to infect the intranet of such a facility with the _stuxnet_ worm via a prepared USB stick which sent all centrifuges into overdrive and caused enough damage to shut down the facility.

[@jshwck4210]

When he explains why Iran is how it is, he should start with Mosaddegh and not the Shah.

[@jrock71]

Yes , but does he even know about it....The US and UK will not tolerate any country nationalizing their own extraction resources....

[@dynamicworlds1]

True

[@Nora-ds4ug]

Iran won't be allowed to have any of these weapons. The USA would be pressured into taking action by not only Israel but also by Saudi Arabia.

[@ratking1330]

Fun fact about the uranium enrichment point. You cant start and sustain nuclear fission with most isotopes of uranium, but they can still serve as fuel for the nuclear reaction itself. Most nuclear materials in their unrefined/unenriched form will still increase the payload of a nuclear weapon, though much less effeciently. The castle bravo test for example went wrong as it was believed only certain isotopes will carry out the nuclear reaction, but under the conditions of fission is still able to split unenriched atoms.

[@nehukybis]

The main thing to understand about this region is that Saudi Arabia and Iran are the two regional superpowers and they're mortal enemies. Of the two, Iran is comparatively much more progressive. It has the potential to be one of the most advanced nations in Asia. The problem is it has a terrible government and one of the highest drug addiction rates in the world. It doesn't help that most of the Islamic world considers Shiite Muslims to be heretics.

[@wendylafolle]

Drug addiction? Is Iran heavily involved in drug trafficking? Generally, countries supporting terrorist groups, as Iran supports Hezbollah, do.

[@xSaecredChaotixx]

The spicy relationship has been calmed a bit with negotiating mediated through China. (Not a full hearted defense of the CCP but this is good diplomacy here)

[@johnomalley692]

Y'all. Please read up on Operation Ajax and Mossadegh. 1953 is the year the U.S. doomed itself in the Middle East.

[@Glasma]

Ahh yes the time were overthrew their government after we overthrew their government in WWII

[@kray97]

Mossadegh wanted to nationalize the oil industry - so the CIA couped him.

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

​​@@kray97 and then didn't get the oil because the guy they installed got ousted for a theocracy almost immediately

[@kray97]

@@TwoForFlinchin1 The Shah was in power for almost 30 years

[@teamridgeback]

Vaush, it wasn’t “Western” it was the CIA alone my bro.

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

And MI6

[@YokaiX]

Yep... let us never forget such American classics: lran-Contra Affair, ClA activities in lran and lraq, America playing both sides in lraq-lran War, and Operation Cyclone.

[@rockmycd1319]

America wasn’t really playing both sides in the Iran Iraq War, the aid America was either part of existing pre-revolution contracts or in the case of Iran contra in order to free hostages.

[@arthurgray172]

We’re so fucking doomed Jesus Christ.

[@LimeyLassen]

This merits a main channel video, doesn't it? This is way more important than more chatter about Ana Kasparian or Prager U or whatever the daily sludge is.

[@johnstevenson5084]

I think the logic is that the daily sludge attracts new viewers, and only existing viewers who are emotionally invested are going to come and watch this. Even if videos like this were uploaded to the main channel and it got more views, it would tank channel growth and would be worse for vawurlsh in the long run. But i do wish more people would see this.

[@Necroskull388]

Channel split isn't about importance, it's about the algorithm. Main channel is for getting recommended to people, side channel is for everything else.

[@Piratewaffle43]

Not going to war with Iran would be nice, and I think most people in the west can agree.

[@animalxINSTINCT89]

In discussing the Iranian revolution, he missed a few parts. After the shah was deposed, Mohammed Mossadegh came to power promising to nationalize Iranian oil. Then the CIA, specifically Kermit Roosevelt (yes those Roosevelt's) organized the overthrow of the new government and reinstated the shah. The shah then clamped down brutally and that repression caused the Islamic revolution, which would put the Ayatolla in power.

[@aidandurkan15]

I was going to say I think there was more American involvement there. I also wouldn't be surprised if the weapons we were selling all over the middle east wound up in there hands. America is just a bunch of loops and it always comes back to bite us.

[@zyanego3170]

The Shah literally appointed Mosaddegh as Prime Minister

[@TheBlazersfan22]

We are in the situation thanks to trump, and u.s foreign policy with israel .

[@JaikoDiaz117]

No... This has been going for AT LEAST 75 YEARS.

[@TheBlazersfan22]

Yea, but we had a nuclear deal with iran. Which they was abiding too. Yea , we overthrew their leader back long time ago. Though, we literally had a peace deal with them, and their president was pro u.s at the time. Which he got ousted in the next election. Thanks to trump , and him blowing up their general.

[@jhonshephard921]

@@JaikoDiaz117 nope, the former guy constantly enabled the far right Lukud. Historically, Carter almost ended it and then Bill Clinton almost ended the war again. Both along with good leadership in the other countries on ALL sides who also wanted peace. On the other hand, anyone in any of the countries that is right of Reagan escalates the conflict for political/personal gain.

[@tony16991]

You are just saying that to other yourself from the responsibility of most of American history.

[@JaikoDiaz117]

@@jhonshephard921 Who cares about USA's presidents? Are you saying they were responsible for this whole thing? I thought the responsibles were UK and France... Let's see, so... 75 years ago... what's that year? Ooof... Right after WWII... What happened when WWII finished? What group of people decided to move into the middle east WITHOUT TELLING THE PEOPLE ALREADY LIVING THERE?

[@kieranRRPP]

Mountains don't necessarily protect from nuclear attacks. If the detonation is at ground level the mountain would absolutely provide a "blast shadow". If it was an airblast though especially one higher than the mountain then there is no blast protection offered. The problem with mountains is they create weather shelves. Weather shelves cause rain. after a nuclear blast rain is about the absolute worst thing that can happen. Whilst Iran is fairly dry. They have a 7 month rainy season and any amount of rain after a nuclear blast is bad rain. So yes. But no.

[@piccalillipit9211]

America is not going to nuke Iran. If America nukes Iran China IMMEDIATELY cuts off all trade with America, the Arab and Muslim countries IMMEDIATELY cut of oil and trade. America would be struggling to put food on the plates of its people in 6 moths and totally collapses into civil war. NO ONE is starting a nuclear war. Its economic *****. - the wind moves west to east there and directly in the path you have India and China - Americans would be digging for grubs and roots in a year.

[@sebastianguerrero6617]

Isreal isn't used to fighting actual armies

[@kanadashyuugo873]

They beat the snot of ALL of the actual armies of their neighbours at once when they got uppity.

[@soccerruben1]

I mean, they fought Arab armies in the 60s for six days.

[@paulsmart4672]

@@soccerruben1 60s happened back in the 60s, though.

[@karpi470]

Honestly, the only way in which I could see an invasion of Iraq being in any way feasible is if the US would pull a massive PsyOp campagin before and spark a massive protest wave (or just be lucky enough for something to happen that causes it naturally) like the one we saw in late 2022 / early 2023, and then escalate that into a civil war by invading. That would also make the whole conflict easier to justify, because not only would they invade a country that is developing WMDs (but for real this time), but they could also excuse it as "liberating the Iranian people" (wait, I think I heared that one before aswell...). But even then, it would likely still be a total clusterfuck. Going that route would essentially be the only way to set up a more or less legitimate democratic government afterwards, and even then, Marshall Plan levels of economic aid and very careful statebuilding would be needed for them to even have a chance at not collapsing immediately. I think Iran has somewhat better chances in that regard when compared to Iraq or Afghanistan due to actually having a long history (they are just straight up the successor state of the Persian Empire and have existed in those borders for centuries) instead of just being some colonial brainfart (which probably adds some stability), being rather developed for the region, and because they used to be a westernized nation and even briefly a democracy before, but that still doesnt mean that it looks particularly good for them... The only upside is that you could give it a cool name like "Operation Iskander" (because Alexander the Great was the last Westerner to fully conquer Persia).

[@iamoctonate]

Can we take Vizzini's advice and not get involved in a land war in Asia?

[@Gee-xb7rt]

Depends on how dumb we are and how willing we are to follow Netanyahu to our own destruction. If Iran gets involved Russia and China will be all in just for the land grabs.

[@DCwolf138]

Lockheed, Halliburton and Raytheon has entered the chat...

[@brianbrunen9803]

If we're using Advance Wars logic, does every country get a CO power?

[@madhack69]

Keep those passports updated folks!

[@kurtallen12]

You explained this very well. Terrifying stuff to think about.

[@DrHotWarLove]

We don’t know if this poll… Is-rael? Huh? Huh? I’ll see myself out.

[@ikhideikpefan8740]

I love he has one of the most based evaluations of Iran I have ever heard. Especially for not having specialized in studying their culture.

[@TheEmperorGulcasa]

I mean in advance wars only infantry and air units can even move on mountains.

[@jiman3679]

It infuriates me how many of the reasons given for why the United States should not fight Iran are identical to the reasons why the Allies did not want to fight Germany until the last moment before World War II.

[@briannoel7398]

Are you implying that we should go to war with Iran?

[@donalddude7568]

Warmongering is increasing day by day both on right and left.

[@adambarker9524]

10:12 I believe the inspectors were part of the UN and continued to do their jobs after the US pulled out of the deal because it was a multilateral agreement.

[@darksaint0124]

You believe?

[@pgplumsparkle]

Can we just not have a sequel to the Iraq War? Pretty please? 🥺

[@jessjess23brooks89]

That or a completion of the World War trilogy. I don't want to see how this script ends. I'm cool with peace talks and diplomacy and other boring things.

[@dynamicworlds1]

Invading Iran would make Iraq look like nothing in comparison.

[@darksaint0124]

@dynamicworlds1 correct. Iran actually has a real army, and they do not have a US backed puppet in charge. (many forget that Saddam was backed by the US) Moreover, they really do not like our government and would be extremely motivated to deny any incursions.

[@dudewithnovids12]

Iran has BMs? Maybe they should eat more fiber.

[@Kaefer1973]

Who would compare Iran to Nazi Germany? It's one of the few Islamic countries that allows a jewish minority to live within it's borders and has given them (minor symbolic) representation in the parliament. It's not much but a lot more than Nazi Germany. The greater risk as compared to Israel would probably be an escalation in the conflict with Saudi Arabia since due to the Sunni and Shiite hatred.

[@dynamicworlds1]

You're forgetting that Netanyahu is literally a Holocaust revisionist. Truth doesn't really matter here.

[@alpharius5178]

If Iran let Lash be one of their COs they would truly be impenetrable, but obviously they wouldn’t let her. They have to be a Grits main since they would never field Sami or Sonja.

[@SweetTaleTeller]

Wait but a Tzar Bomb hasn’t actually ever gone off right? Nobody possibly has that much space to test that… horrible thing

[@dynamicworlds1]

Yes and no. Yes the Tzar Bomba actually was tested (in the northern wastes of Russia where there actually is that much unused land). That said, the yield it was tested at (the one that broke all the records) was only about half of what it was theoretically capable of. So, yes it was actually used AND if not a test device would have been twice as big of a boom.

[@mattdombrowski8435]

If I remember correctly, that test rattled windows 100km away. Nukes are horrifying.

[@SweetTaleTeller]

@@dynamicworlds1 OMG, Humans are so dumb imagine if that went wrong. Thanks for the info!!

[@LordOfTamarac]

A little bit of context that didn’t get into the video, the government prior to the Shaw, who is helped into power by a western coup, was led by Muhammad Mossadegh. He was a relatively progressive and secular, very popular, democratically elected leader. His crime that made him untenable to the West was the nationalization of the Anglo Iranian oil company, which would later be renamed British Petroleum

[@soptop1641]

War with iran is also not a garunteed win for USA and its allies. I'd encourage everyone to look at the milenium challenge from 2002 and see how costly this war could be in terms of American lives

[@cyberneticbutterfly8506]

I'd add that even as "The US" does things there are factions in the US that want different things, e.g. some factions aren't happy about supporting the saudi dictatorship while other factions don't care as long as its in US interest. Principled factions and unprincipled factions.

[@johasytoribio8911]

Seeing the poll in the beginning of the stream in which the older demographic is more in favor of the U.S getting involved in the war reminds me of Niko Bellic's quote from GTA 4 "War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other."

[@johncasey9544]

I'm not dyin for em. Rather rot in prison than get mutilated in Iran lol.

[@DCwolf138]

The great filter strikes again 😂

[@God_gundam36]

I would simply handle it

[@jloiben12]

12:25 MOP. I believe we have enough MOPs to do this

[@jeffperteet2327]

Iran reminds me of that Phil Collins song, Throwing it All Away

[@Treyast]

Yo man, new forever war just dropped.

[@CFilmer]

That map actually wasn't a website, Vaush really nuked Paris in this moment.

[@teddyfurstman1997]

We don’t need this!

[@matthewreviews6019]

Isn’t this literally the plot for top gun 2

[@themightyquyn]

Very nuanced take on Iran. Thank you.

[@Will-uz3sc]

First ad youtube forced me to watch was on this video, it was for Lockheed Martin...

[@theplan-m6c]

I guess try to get another permanent deal.

[@killerskiely100]

So much for the 'harm reduction' vote.

[@TheseBitchesWantNikes]

Yeah that went out the window a WHILE ago.

[@jamesglover2251]

Just had a call come through from Iran so I think inter National relations are improving

[@GnosticAtheist]

War is like a box of choclate, you always know what you're gonna get.

[@michaelthompson7217]

i think it’s undeniable at this point iran has nukes. i think since stuxnet they have been on the precipice of it, and that was a decade ago. and despite what people say i don’t think the iran nuke deal did anything to stop them. it’s not in their interest to stop the real question is do they have an effective delivery system, and i think the answer to that is a resounding no. there is probably no iranian delivery system that does not have an existing established counter weapon. not just physical denial but also in cyberspace

[@KathyXie]

The reason for the underground facilities is because Israel already bombed an unfinished Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981, in fact, Iran bombed the same reactor 8 months earlier, the reactor wasn't even capable of producing weapons grade plutonium according to investigation after the attack.

[@wowster-so8sx]

Get Tom Cruise

[@thecreepyllama]

Man I just watched voosh's Elden Ring difficulty video and the camera/encoding quality is just so much better lmao what happened????

[@Lil.lyGoose]

Voosh is really teaching his viewers how to build nukes is this stochastic terrism 👺

[@ErasMcras]

i mean honestly the only other country that could be as defensible due to mountainous terrain in the world would likely be switzerland, chile, and tibet

[@a13xdunlop]

If the USA made a move on the Oil refineries in Iran they would likely come up against China who would protect their interests, Russia would also feel obliged to get involved. Would the USA be reckless enough to agitate for this, indeed they would.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

The second B in Czar Bomba is pronounced, Vaush

[@Birthnote]

12:38 Do you really think there's only one entrance, chatter?

[@chase5436]

i’m gonna call bullshit on that poll

[@teamridgeback]

Irrespective of this matter these people are properly referred to as Persian not Iranian.

[@jessicamarks0611]

I’ve always wanted to be evaporated!

[@Junebug89]

"oh no you spoiled a horrible game" signs someone has no idea what they're talking about

[@BiancaTallarico]

Northern Iran would be like Vietnam. Theres dense woods and swamps there.

[@Bayard1503]

But Northern Iran is Azerbaijani... maybe they would take chance to breakaway and unite.

[@dualnon6643]

16:15 been replay this for like a straight minute

[@frocco7125]

Ending the Iran Nuclear deal was SUCH a terrible move by Trump.

[@I_like_Plants130]

Ok, who’s polling these people? Every single poll seems so weird. Maybe my rural area is just weird but I honestly think so many polls miss the mark

[@adamswayzee1219]

Glad you clarified “Iran has BM’s” 😂

[@aristizle8797]

That part of Iran near Kuwait? Without mountains? On the other side of Mountains from the Capital and major population centers? That strategically vulnerable lookin' place? That's where Iran makes A LOT of their money. That's where the oil is, that's where the trading/shipping boats go to/fro. Israel could (with USA Navy support) prob occupy that bit of Iran. That would get spicy. Maybe spicy rocks spicy.

[@nosauceyesrough3576]

“Older people more in favor” so the ones that wouldn’t have to fight? Lol

[@JemLeavitt]

....

[@Argumemnon]

"Every country wants nukes" Nah, up here in Canada we could've had nukes but chose not too. We're too nice.

[@GiodyneSTG]

Lowkey W

[@VictorkillZ]

To be fair, Canada greatly benefits from its geographical position, it's pretty much a "premium" US. and having good relations with the US makes it so Canada won't ever need to invest in military expenses

[@dynamicworlds1]

Canada doesn't want nukes because it gets to have America be it's nuclear deterrent.

[@salamantics]

@@VictorkillZyeah if the US and Canada aren’t on good terms it’s because the world has ended Edit: or America becomes fallout America and really wants that yummy frozen hellscape

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

You have the luxury of not being a target for western invasion and not needing deterrence because you already serve capital and are for now of little other importance in their cruel calculus

[@teddyrubskin3354]

the scrolling chat is so insane and barely able to pay attention to anything he says

[@therchas]

Vuashes beard is one of the best on the internet.

[@Electricfox]

There is one further fly in the ointment - Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have vowed that if Iran develops nukes, they will also gain nukes, and have a deal with Pakistan who will supply them.

[@iamaloafofbread8926]

27:58 Sounds like the same situation with Bush and Iraq

[@Dhi_Bee]

I haven’t watched the entire video yet but Vaush forgets to mention that the Shah royalty were reinstalled AFTER the US & UK supported (& helped) the military coup overthrow their democratically elected President Mohammed Mosaddegh (who got rid of the monarchy for democracy) in the 1950s because he wanted to nationalize their oil & the US & UK (specifically current day BP oil company) wanted the oil money & basically convinced others that it was “socialist/communist = bad”.

[@zyanego3170]

Mosaddegh never managed to abolish the Monarchy and he eventually replaced whatever Democracy Iran might’ve had with his own dictatorship after dissolving the country’s parliament with a sham referendum. Then he got overthrown.

[@jerredhamann5646]

If a large portion of the people hate them all u need to do is break the government and ideally put a strong man in

[@jamesolson2304]

No one has a nuclear weapon that is even close to the tsar bomba yield. Rediculous comparison.

[@tylerhackner9731]

We really don’t need this

[@torkgems]

We need to start protesting

[@themikesdeadshow]

You forgot that the Shaw was a replacement for the democratically leader Mosaddeq.

[@zyanego3170]

The Shah literally appointed Mosaddegh

[@holdenswyers5709]

13:44 ADVANCED WARS MENTIONED?!?! VOOSH ADVANCED WARS PLAYER?!?!