Biden vs Trump Future Middle Eastern Foreign Policy Plans

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[@jmantime]

We could've avoided all of this if Bernie Sanders was elected president in 2016.

[@humanityneedstowakeup.5220]

Wasn't he the guy that bowed to the Hilary woman, He would have been a strong leader. I mean, He allowed that to happen. How much of a fight did he give?

[@mrsnrub282]

​@@humanityneedstowakeup.5220 that's not how I'd put it. I think he just tried to get his base behind Hilary because she was preferable to Trump

[@jeremywomack7090]

​@@humanityneedstowakeup.5220 He gave the exact correct amount of fight, he lost the election and pivoted to oppose an actual fascist. You can't say he didn't fight when he took it to the convention.

[@cookies23z]

Monkey

[@Qublidon]

Nah man, 4 years would have gotten a shit show. And a bigger shit show with that 50 50 do nothing congress. We need to secure a big blue congress and a president

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

Yeah I never really understood why people didn't approve of Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan. Like, what more did you want? "No solve, only complain"

[@williamnordan]

Don’t have issue leaving. Just that it could have been planned better.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

@@williamnordan sure, things can always be planned better. I can imagine many scenarios in which the outcome would have been worse, though

[@davidradtke160]

For me leaving Afghanistan makes Biden the best president of my life time.

[@radomirblazik]

Two words: Mohammad Mosaddegh... The democratically elected (Paris Sciences Po educated) prime minister of Iran, who was overthrown by the Shah with help from the US, on behalf of what was to become BP and the british secret service. The brits threw a tantrum when the guy ordered an audit on the oil industry and BP (anglo-iranian oil company) went full east India co. and wanted his head in return. The Iranian audit uncovered the exploitation practices, tax dodging and other tasty stuff BP was doing in Iran, so he ordered it's nationalisation. The rest is history as they say. The Shah was doing banana republic dictatorial stuff until he massively angered even the clergy. The rest is, again, history. The parallels with Cuba are astounding.

[@Jasonsmith-sr1ke]

The difference being that in Cuba the left won, while the right won in Iran.

[@kingdomisaiah4541]

@@Jasonsmith-sr1ke Imagine defending Cuba. Imagine being a tankie and supporting communism smh

[@RexxyRobin]

@@kingdomisaiah4541 Being tankie does not simply mean supporting communism. How come so many Vaush viewers talk like centrists who still buy into all the neo lib propaganda of the cold war era?

[@elysialena9856]

Hearing Sciences Po mentioned in a positive way…. goddamn, it’s been a long time. Thanks for the moment of pride haha.

[@myfairlady343]

​@@Jasonsmith-sr1kenah politics in the middle east dont fit the left right at all. The Iran government isn't right

[@wargriffin5]

The size of that Mecca clock tower alone is giving me 40k vibes; I feel like it needs to be a Darktide map. 🤣

[@yourneighborhoodxenos]

Oh God, I can't unsee this 😂 too true

[@marcinzysko1653]

I like how each "window" looks normal, until you compare it to anything beneath. This is basicaly a hotel made of palaces.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

The clock itself is fine, I think. The idea that there are so many resorts and stuff near it, sucks, but aside from that it's fine. People always complain about big buildings in areas where there are few big buildings. French people were very much opposed to the Eiffel tower back when it was built (originally it was even supposed to be a temporary thing)

[@Eagle93Writer]

@@guillaumelagueyte1019 Yeah but the Eiffel Tower is... like functional. And was desgine dto forfill a purpouse. This is just someone waving their Money Dick around.

[@Rudero3]

I'm not even Muslim and I think what the Saudis did to Mecca and the area by the Kaaba is awful. They surrounded it with shopping malls and hotels. I get the hotels, but like, to me, from my point, imagine if inside Saint Peter's square on the way to to the basilica, you passed a Gamestop and a McDonald's. Like the area is supposed to be holy, not a commercialized mess. Not to mention all the construction around it, imagine you're doing your once in a life time hajj and you're trying to pray but you know, the Saudi government has to get that new luxury hotel that overlooks the mosques finished asap, enjoy hearing that. You think a screaming baby at church is hard to ignore when you're trying to do the communion prayer, imagine jack hammers and dump trucks.

[@naldormight6420]

Make no mistake these hotels are not gonna be some hospitalier respite for pilgrims but overprized resorts.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

McMecca

[@Rudero3]

@@naldormight6420 oh for sure. Hotels only for ultra wealthy emirs of the Gulf states, or the military elite of Pakistan, or heads of state. The pilgrims from Morocco will get the Saudi equivalent of a Motel 6, and the Swahili speaking Muslims will probably get a tent and nothing more.

[@NateMcBrady]

You can go half a block outside of the Vatican proper and buy souvenirs of the Pope, so what’s the difference?

[@Rudero3]

@@guillaumelagueyte1019 a literal sacrilege what they did to Mecca.

[@shadsnotafk7478]

We should put Gaara in charge of Egypt.

[@overlookers]

You're telling Egyptians to put their faith in a bitch that got packed by _one_ Akatsuki

[@HarryDirtay]

Post personal growth arc Gaara 100% pre-transition Gaara is cringe😂

[@fluffynator6222]

Return it to the role of Ra

[@MohamedGX]

I would agree

[@SpiralSine6]

“Between those who have felt the same pain, there can be no hate.” Bro’s got my vote any day of the week. He honestly has the best character growth in the manga/show.

[@JackDespero]

Also, I love how the title of the article is "US sanctions Israeli settlers" because putting the number would have shown how PATHETIC of a news it is: US sanctions FOUR Israeli settlers. Not four-hundred, not four-thousand. FOUR.

[@ThompsonFlash9999]

And it's not even the big 4, the ones actually in the government. It would be one thing if one of them was Ben-Gvir or any of the other psychopath settlers in the government. But it ain't.

[@serversurfer6169]

I thought chat was joking… 😒

[@kingdomisaiah4541]

It's a good start though.

[@alHailHale]

​@kingdomisaiah4541 Yup, good start to doing nothing. If they were going to sanction only four people, they should have made it four ministers or MPs

[@Spaghetter813]

​@@alHailHaleits far more than "nothing" in the diplomatic game.

[@jayburn00]

There have been many withdrawals from Afghanistan. Ours statistically was actually the best. When the British empire withdrew, a massacre occurred of their soldiers and many civilians. The Soviets had problems too.

[@Jasonsmith-sr1ke]

The British Empire has been historically bad at withdrawing. Rwanda, India, Afghanistan, Israel, just to name a few.

[@cobraglatiator]

@@Jasonsmith-sr1ke bri'ish pullout game WEAK.

[@Itakebigcraps]

A lot of equipment was lost

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

@@cobraglatiator WAP (Weak Afghanistan Policy)

[@cobraglatiator]

@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t so true.

[@sonsprinter]

This is straight up depressing

[@bign9573]

Even when killed, pundits can’t resist emphasizing “RESERVIST” over “soldier”

[@notapseudonym678]

The best part is that aside from being at home when they aren't activated, there's functionally no difference between the two in the US military, other than what benefits they get, or how much time they spend sitting around killing time when they aren't given something to do. The National Guard made up like what, 40 percent of the initial force in Iraq in 05 or some shit. Most veterans around my part of the country were (or are) reservists who were called into action during some part of the forever war or another. If they think the Reserves aren't that big of a deal, why aren't they in there? Free college, amirite? Or is that just something for proles like us to do...

[@KumoriGatchi]

happy (late?) birthday vaush. vaush good.

[@EsPaRtAnO2009]

Great pfp

[@Radjhitoocool]

The closest I feel to watching a whatifalt history video is vaush in front of a map

[@LimeyLassen]

Bad sand! Useless land!

[@AB-zl4nh]

The sense of main character syndrome with American Leftists is extraordinary. Complete erasure of local, regional & religious issues. The US is a correlation, not a main cause.

[@somerandommen]

What a stellar "human" you have agreeing with you.

[@ryanbaxter8236]

I got the chance to meet and work with Iranian university students two years ago. It was through something called COIL that my professor, who was also from Iran, participated in. The students that I worked with were all really nice and spoke English with us. They were genuinely excited to learn about the US and to tell us about Iran. They deserve better than the Ayatollah, but they absolutely deserve better than a pointless war that would destroy their lives if it didn’t take them.

[@NVRBENSHOT]

Middle East’s only hope is the Kurds as a non Kurdish Iranian the Kurds are genuinely the most open minded and ACTUALLY left wing groups of the Middle East and the biggest hope for change

[@SepSyn]

I second this sentiment. I hope Rojava and the KRG remain autonomous

[@NVRBENSHOT]

@@SepSyn but honestly although this sounds selfish I hope the Iranian Kurds don’t become independent yet, I think the Iranian people really need their help to fight against the oppression of Islamic republic

[@NVRBENSHOT]

@@Rizzy-bz8en ehh sort of I bet Rajova and northern Iraq have a huge chance for independence but Turkish and irani Kurdistan? Not so much

[@NVRBENSHOT]

@@Rizzy-bz8en I wouldn’t say crush you underestimate the Kurdish gorillas fighting power also right now Kurds have the support of the Iranian people

[@Venersavacum]

@@Rizzy-bz8en Turks already destory syria iraq northern era turks rule over them millitary against pkk and rojava.

[@ebros5758]

I have thoughts on this discourse, and I wish to engage with it. Perhaps this will benefit the machine god

[@freewilly1193]

Glory to the Omnissiah

[@KhoiSanRaps]

"Winter" is coming fast and about 90% of the world isnt aware of it

[@802Garage]

The general populace of Iran likes Americans and would prefer their society be more like ours. You're correct.

[@jayburn00]

Don't let the British draw maps. Or French.

[@DTMC00]

Or the Russians

[@goarmysleepinthemud.]

U.S would be better off it the Brits had stayed in charge. Would be like Canada rather than the shithole it is now.

[@ДимитърИванов-е5ъ]

Long term occupation didn't work even in the Ottoman Empire. As a Bulgarian I can attest to that. We were occupied for 500 years and we still kept our cultural identitty

[@DaxBruce-kv4vf]

I guess you have to do it like we did in North America 😮😢

[@historyandpoliticsexplaine4876]

The objective is not to pacify. They want a constant, beatable enemy.

[@LimeyLassen]

What?

[@somerandommen]

​@@LimeyLassenWhat the fuck do you mean "what"?

[@danielcreamer9669]

Artemie made such great points about multi-polarity bringing stability to region. However, her comments about the Kurds were reprehensible.

[@FLASK904]

As an Indian, I am the last person who will defend the British empire and their exploits post WW2. However, the partition of the Middle East was more than just the British drawling random lines all around the map. This is the land where a massive Empire once ruled, that empire was horrible, just as bad as the British or French. After WW1 when it collapsed, there were a LOT of regional powers vying for power and attention over their little bits of land. The world community, and the League of Nations basically had 2 options. Let them fight it out, or formalize that region into states with some rudimentary cultural guideline. So yes, the British did a horrible job of that, and then the Cold War didn't help. But if the West had not intervened, it is pretty gullible to think that the region would've just coalesced into nation states and lived peacefully together...More likely, it would've devolved into sectarian violence.

[@dym6464]

A major reason why both nations India and Pakistan had immediate hostilities was the policy of partition that was only given a couple months to move thousands of miles across the continent. 1 million died and the scars from this migration setup India Pak relations to be at odds with each other.

[@FLASK904]

@dym6464 Yes, but that hostility was present in india for a while. It wasn't something that the British manifested. Their partition plan didn't help, but again, if they had done nothing, it is unclear if things would've gone better or worse.

[@iddy2122]

You dont know that though. You'd have to look at the conditions of each region at the time and worked your way up chronologically, and figured out conflict factors in each place etc.

[@tokukeitaro]

Good points but to counter I'd like to point out that when drawing the lines they grouped together ethnic groups that had been fighting for centuries then played them against each other for economic advantage for western companies. They purposefully made things as bad as possible so they could make a buck and prevent the new nations from being stable.

[@a.jskidmore2312]

the ad i got before this was literally a biden ad bragging about how he’s gonna win again. we’re so cooked dude

[@gligarguy4010]

the ad i got before this was LITERALLY a trump ad bragging about how he only hires the best people. he then went on to cook dudes. And then the whole bus clapped.

[@gligarguy4010]

@@cg-691 Bro really thought he had something there, pulling out an insult somehow older and whiter than Biden. I expected better from you Jason. Your lack of creativity is why she left.

[@cobraglatiator]

@@gligarguy4010 i'm more on the OP's side but *god damn* that was fucking vicious.

[@PearLock]

​@@gligarguy4010lmaooo, nice

[@mckenzie.latham91]

At this point Anyone who mentions the gaza genocide or Biden's reaction to it as an attack on biden While mentioning nothing of trumps proposed Mass deportstion of all illegal and Daca citizens in the largest deportstion movement ever made And the literal public 100 day outline for trans genocide and dismantling all ability for elections to ever elect anything but conservative at federal or state level ever again Are showing that they don't care about gazans or pailsitnians beyond being a PR prop And couldn't care how many minorites or LBGTQ are murdered, deported or cleansed by the GOP neo reich They only hate biden and dems and only care about spite poltics.

[@midirenjoyer]

happy bday vowsh!

[@theshadowsagas3617]

25:42 ok this made your Iran take a couple weeks ago make way more sense I see where you're going with it now

[@paradoxexpress6976]

How is that Sampson doctrine any different than any other nuclear state? Like do you not think the Chinese would launch if we were closing in on Beijing?

[@RealTalkWithRickyPaquiot]

*Biden is highly better at this than Trump. Biden just has a better and more careful strategy that Trump couldn't plan.*

[@SenorPenor1337]

Drumpf can't even put his trousers on the right way

[@davidstorme8748]

The Sun never sets on the Union Jack… sound familiar.

[@johnwalsh4857]

well Iran was already invaded in 1941 by both the USSR and the British. they took Iran in one month then again, the Iranian army at the time was laughable. and the Shah ruling at the time just gave token resistance.

[@osoisko1933]

Happy Birthday 🎉

[@jayburn00]

Iran was successfully invaded once during WW2. It was invaded by both the British and Soviets during WW2. Just some history trivia.

[@mr.blueitachi5258]

They didn't even have a significant military back in the day

[@mr.blueitachi5258]

They didn't even have a significant military back in the day

[@jayburn00]

@@mr.blueitachi5258 correct. They also were not prepared for a war because they were neutral. Britain and the Soviet Union invaded to grab oil and also create a logistics route.

[@OolTube02]

If you focused solar energy you could probably turn the useless desert sand into crude glass, then break that glass, and then it would be coarse enough for concrete. It's all a matter of how much energy you put in. But the only energy you'd need is solar energy if you had the infrastructure. The same goes for desalination and irrigation. I think desert countries have a future. Desert states, too.

[@0witw047]

If you wanted to glass the desert… there’s a much easier way to do that.

[@OolTube02]

@@0witw047 Well, the idea is, you want the glass for construction. It's ultimately all an energy problem. If there's an abundance of renewable energy available then you can create all sorts of materials. Without blowing ever more CO2 into the atmosphere.

[@MegaBanne]

I bet they have a casino in the clock tower XD.

[@MohamedGX]

21:09 Good honest take by the way.

[@The_Mess85]

I have a bad feeling the Israel issue will sort itself out as the Jewish ultra right is getting "zealous" and last time that happened in Jewish history it resulted in Judah collapsing and the entire priestly caste being exterminated by the zealots for not bowing to the zealots. And the modern ones are nuts about guns too...

[@Emanon...]

"Fuck if I know" - US middle east strategy since 2001

[@snakething87]

“The Middle East: a wacky place filled with wacky people.”

[@johnwalsh4857]

and if you ask the oldsters in Iran, many of them regretted kicking out the shah only to be replaced by a ayatollah theocratic dictatorship.

[@Jasonsmith-sr1ke]

You’ll get the same response if you ask oldsters in Iraq or Libya. Almost like people enjoy security and peace.

[@averagedemocrat9546]

old people always want to return to the past. Same as how russian boomers want the USSR again

[@johnwalsh4857]

@@Jasonsmith-sr1ke true.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

​​@@Jasonsmith-sr1kePeace? Didn't the shahs secret police torture, detain and murder thousands of dissidents and critics? And Gahdalf literally ethnically cleansed his population every several years What you mean is, "when they kill their own and we don't have to hear about it, it's fine" LoL peace.

[@anthapersephone7311]

I love those frames

[@Bayard1503]

All desert sand is bad for construction, erosion smooths the quartz particles too much. Doesn't really matter for Saudi Arabia, they have access to seas.

[@Nihilus_Outis]

As a reward, Pruneface was sent to the frontlines in Ukraine.

[@nunyabiznes7446]

Not sure about that "Palestine: Completely Cooked?" thumbnail lol

[@akgfilming]

vaush is an intersectionalist; this means he can acknowledge the problems of american foreign policy and its overlap with oil exports leading to increased global warming especially in areas like palestine

[@jakuth99]

Also, like, populations tend to be more authoritarian when they feel like they’re under threat. So if anything, attacking Iran will probably keep the ayatollah in power

[@rudysmith1552]

Family structure too

[@MohamedGX]

13:37 You're ognoring the fact that the Saudis could never have taken control pf Saudi Arabia without American weapons. The Wahhabis were the governing family at first.

[@Kob1yashi]

Iran is not a country you can invade? It's invaded successfully every 200years on average including ww2

[@Kob1yashi]

Also Lebanon and Iraq don't seem too happy with Iranian influence...

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Alexander the great literlly wiped out Persia and conquered the persians

[@Kob1yashi]

@@mckenzie.latham91 yes and then the arabs and then the Turks and then the mongols,then Uzbeks, then Turks/kurds again, the the russian, then the russians and British again, so hard to invade Iran hahahah

[@garrettlaschinski5313]

Happy birthday

[@historyandpoliticsexplaine4876]

Wait why is Turkey not talked about when it comes to Middle Eastern Powers that could become democracies?

[@hardphlex]

iran is so beautiful i feel bad for those folks and pray for a brighter future

[@omarrp14]

Video ends at 29:10

[@andrewgreenwood9068]

18:54 i disagree. I think its more to do with other western countries having recently done this so the US feels safe to follow

[@louiscassis3426]

How do you specifically sanction the settlers? Seems like BS.

[@kingdomisaiah4541]

I don't think its BS. Sanctioning Israeli settlers is a good start

[@seanbinkley7363]

The attitude among some in the American right towards Ukraine is so strange because their lack of desire for the US to not intervene their doesn't at all match their attitudes towards us supporting Israel/attacking Iran. It's way, way more risky for ourselves and the world as a whole to go directly after Iran vs supporting Ukraine with weapons but that's what they wanna do.

[@fluffynator6222]

Didn't the Ayatollah lead the revolution?

[@ausername8699]

Technically yes, but at the very tail end right after the Shah fled the country. Ayatollah Khomeini was only popular with Iranians because of his anti-America and anti-monarchy stances. He was actually in exile outside of Paris when the Shah was deposed. The left did most of the work in getting the Shah out of the country with their rioting and fighting the cops, but the Shia clerics were very well organized, and thus were able to stamp out any liberal/left-leaning movements. The power vacuum the Shah left behind was quickly consolidated into the Ayatollah and his close allies. Sharia law was decreed, women lost their rights, and it's now the Anti-American Islamic theocracy we know and love today.

[@fluffynator6222]

@@ausername8699 Dude claimed the Mandate of Heaven

[@Gwest555]

Ya need water sand wind sand no good

[@aSimpleTailor]

LOL got a Biden ad before this.

[@jackharpe3rd233]

Why does Vaush like to say the word "Wacky?"

[@MoGhadas]

Vaush genuinely has a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Islamic Republic govt of Iran wants in the middle east. The idea that if the US just completely pulls out that Iran would just stop trying to export its revolution (which is the entire point of the Islamic Republic) and just sing kumbaya with the rest of the middle east is childish. Vaush needs to learn more about the fundamental goals and aspirations of the Iranian govt.

[@Necroskull388]

Your characterization of Vaush’s position is so far away from reality that I cannot believe your characterization of Iran is anywhere near reality.

[@MoGhadas]

@@Necroskull388 Please explain it for me then.

[@Jragonslayer]

⁠​⁠@@Necroskull388considering that Vaush said that if the U.S. completely pulled out of the Middle East, he thinks that Iran could become something resembling a democracy, I think the characterization of vaush’s argument is pretty spot on.

[@cynicalmemester1694]

When has Iran orchestrated Islamic revolutions prior to US involvement?

[@Alias_Anybody]

Honestly, if all western nations just pulled out and abandoned everything between Sinai and Pakistan completely and at once, this would quickly escalate into a battle royale between Israel, Iran, Turkey and SA, and Europe would probably have to build 50m high walls at the Turkish border to keep the 15 million refugees out.

[@KOZMOuvBORG]

5:40 Saudi Gaudy - their mantra?

[@KOZMOuvBORG]

10:00 Saudi Arabia also imports sand (and camels for food as theirs are bred for racing) as theirs isn't suitable for filters in swimming pools,

[@Mind_Crimes]

Mmmm gotta love me some Saudi entertainment. What with the WWE, SNK, & PGA Tour washing away all the blood off those petro dollars.

[@travis8895]

Is it over, bros?

[@Avewyowo]

I love lines

[@drewmarteny1495]

Generic comment for the algorithm

[@Ru_bles]

+

[@keyboardoracle1044]

Amazing all this happens when that insignificant economic group BRICS expands, Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt and Ethiopia.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

LOL. Bricks is a joke You actually have to have something worth more or equal to the curency you are trying to replace for you to break even And most of those countries currency is lesser than the dollar or soley propped on the US dollar Comverting to bricks will bankrupt modt of those nations or make them debt and wage slaves to the larger economies like china and SA who will exploit and enslave them, and drive them into the ground.

[@kiwi_2_official]

birtday

[@raghavpatel720]

The Middle East? more like the Middle Yeast

[@thaenaa]

obamna 😳

[@BenjaminGlatt]

Big Ben is the bell, not the tower.

[@greenbackjack768]

What we colloquially call Big Ben is actually Big Ben's Monster.

[@Thecurseofsanity]

Imagine caring about a single br*t*sh thing

[@BenjaminGlatt]

@@greenbackjack768 Elizabeth's Tower, but same thing.

[@kiwi_2_official]

its the nickname of the bell

[@wormypotato]

Vaush when other people make hotels :) . Vaush when Desert people make hotels >:(

[@farhanislam7377]

Really don't understand what Vaush's problem with what the Saudis did in Mecca is. The Kaaba (and the whole mosque around it) isn't some ancient ruins that should be preserved with the aesthetic of the time period it was built in, it's a mosque that millions of muslims go to every year. Of course there would be malls and hotels around it, where do you think the people who go to mecca to visit the mosque are supposed to stay/eat/shop? I suppose you could argue that it looks too "western", but that seems to just be that Vaush thinks that modern building are some exclusively western idea. There is more to Islamic architecture than just 15th century palaces and mosques, and it just seems impractical to build malls and hotels with big domes and minarets. I think anyone who actually goes to mecca (I was there a few months ago) would be able to appreciate the unique architectural style of the city which combines the complex geometric patterns of historic Islamic buildings with modern building practices. There's plenty to criticize about how many historical sites were destroyed to make room for accommodations for the millions of people visiting the mosque, but since there is a clear tradeoff between preserving the history/aesthetic of the city and making it accessible to as many people as possible, I think most muslims appreciate that the focus is on creating a bustling tourist destination where the main attraction is being within walking distance of the mosque (recall that muslims pray 5 times a day, so when you go to mecca, you always want to stay within walking distance of the mosque) over having the city turned into a dead historical site.

[@Jadacarebear]

I like hamsters

[@ThompsonFlash9999]

Me too. They are tasty.

[@Jadacarebear]

@@ThompsonFlash9999 noooooo

[@ThompsonFlash9999]

@@Jadacarebear yeah they are, you just must not be cooking them right

[@Jadacarebear]

@@ThompsonFlash9999 hamchi are friends not food!

[@ThompsonFlash9999]

@@Jadacarebear but then why are they so tasty?

[@abubaytnighan6480]

Vaush keeps saying "house of Saud" سعد It's house of Sauood سعود

[@hippymoustacherides]

Incredibly tacky!!!😂

[@jayburn00]

We keep getting pulled back into the middle east...

[@TeddyKrimsony]

Iran today is as democratic as the USA is and at least there the candidate with lesser votes doesn't win

[@tonyg3910]

“All of Iran is a country” yeah Americans truly know geography well. 😂

[@somerandommen]

Europeans don't understand humor or implication and it shows. 😭 It's his way of expressing Iran's level of development in comparison to the nations surrounding Iran, by implying they're "not actual countries". It's not a statement of geography, it's a slightly xenophobic joke about middle-eastern development. How you couldn't understand that is beyond me, I guess they don't believe in developing social skills in your European backwater.

[@Buck_Bentley]

My plan is to leave come 2025

[@mckenzie.latham91]

And go where coward?

[@jessiejb4684]

The Ukraine war is damaging our interests in regard to Iran, Russia, and China. By refusing to negotiate to prevent the war, or quickly end it, we’ve created and emboldened an anti American block. Russia is now required to do a ton of biz with China, and Iran will be at the center of that relationship based on geography. Absolutely worst policy decision.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Ah so sell Ukriane into slavery and risk Putin decign to take more Baltic states with such appeasement Wow appeasing forign fascists So smart.

[@knighter1209]

Iran, Russia, and China were already an anti-American bloc. Russia's relationship with China is actually suffering over the war.

[@bavakian42.0]

doesnt even talk abou tmossadek

[@davidstorme8748]

Trump better exercise some serious temperance dealing with Iran… there’s a lot more going on there that meets the eye…

[@horaciogonzalez4284]

"Yeah, that spoiled idiot toddler with a hammer better be careful as he swings it around" What you're describing IS the worst case scenario, the man's foreign policy is to support whoever gives a personal bribe to him, and then stoke the brain-dead racism of his base. If republicans win, foreign policy is screwed. Hell, Tom Cotton can't even tell the difference between Singapore and China.

[@TheSolarWolf]

Expecting Trump and the far-right to act with serious temperance is like trying to redirect a tornado to not smack into a dynamite factory when it's barreling towards it.

[@gorney6289]

Temperance? Trump?? 🤣🤣

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Trump literally was revealed to have wanted to go to war with Iran Mark meadows and bolton stopped him and shot it down. They're gone now, the next cabinet will be maga heads who think Trump cleansing Iran is a god mandated order for the literal god emperor an chosen one donald trump himself to fufill And trump is also on reocrd saying he would love to use a nuke So if invasion or occupation stalls he is likely to just set off a nuke in tehran And project 2025 will ensure no one is around who can or will try to stop him.

[@Juel92]

The US could invade and defeat the Iran regime with no major issues. The occupation afterwards though, that would be hard both in what the goal is and also achieving that goal.

[@boyruns]

LOL Iran is not Iraq

[@Habo777-o4q]

Iran has been preparing for a US invasion for decades now. They have the industry and terrain to make us pay for every mile. Don’t underestimate an enemy because you never have to kick just one door down.

[@Jasonsmith-sr1ke]

Why would you want to defeat the Iran regime? It’s the American regime that needs to be defeated.

[@averagedemocrat9546]

America wouldn't be able to defeat Iran like how they toppled the last few regimes they attacked. 1. Iran is MUCH bigger, they have over 80 million people and they have their own domestic arms production. 2. Iran has perfect geography for fighting a defensive war. It's like Afghanistan except there will be far more guerrilla fighters to deal with. 3. America's military resources is split from supporting Ukraine and a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Splitting it again by invading Iran is just plain silly as it's literally the perfect opportunity for China.

[@Juel92]

@@boyruns I know but good luck holding on to territory against america with full air superiority. Would probably take longer than Iraq but Saddams regime fell in a month, that's a very high bar.

[@erikarabie]

Is Vaush drunk?

[@TheVinor14]

i think we do need a regime change in Israel,

[@0witw047]

Destabilize the only liberal democracy in the ME. Are you insane?

[@GregariousAntithesis]

Greater Israel is the goal

[@abubaytnighan6480]

I keep being told that greater Israel is an antisemitic conspiracy theory. But yeah, it's difficult for Israel to genoçide one country, how will they be able to do it to 6 or 7 countries?

[@GregariousAntithesis]

@@abubaytnighan6480 us has been helping them already for years in all the countries except iran. The map is not exactly all of larger countries like syria and iran.

[@XGDoctorwho]

waky

[@Ricky-pr5wz]

Pigeon saw her shadow, nuclear winter is coming sooner than expected

[@GregariousAntithesis]

We should be arming everyone against Xion

[@JemLeavitt]

....

[@IssabekovR]

Eventually, vaush will realise that Chapo lads are having and always had the right attitude towards all that bullshit

[@jimmyjames5685]

Trump should call for a ceasefire in gaza.

[@davidbates3057]

Honestly, as much as I enjoy the whole "Which President would do better" debate, I'm still of the belief that the Presidency doesn't matter all that much. That isn't to say it doesn't matter AT ALL, but that it's not the all powerful, course defining position many Americans make it out to be. It's been clear for a long time, like in most country's, that there's an establiishment order set up to run things in the background irrespective of the elections, because while the media outrage and party dogma changes with every changeover, the policy more or less remains the same. You can point to a handful of ridiculous moments in Trump's Presidency, but if you take his time in office as a whole, it's hard to differentiate his administration from George W Bushes. The same goes with Obama, where he achieved a handful of policies, some of which were designed by Republicans, others which were dismantled by later Republicans, but overall the reason many Democrats are disappointed with him is that he never came close to achieving the changes they had hoped he would, because the system chugged along as it always does. And the same is with Biden. I said Biden at the election that Biden and Trump are more or less the same guy, and again, where Biden has certainly had some wins (Trump did too, btw), this administration has pretty much been a continuation of what came before. Let's be real, I'm not going to speak about Bernie because it's hard to tell if a person with actual conviction against the machine holds office, but had ANY other Democrat or Republican been President right now, we'd see the exact same horrific tragedies coming out of the Middle East right now. The system is the problem. Conspiracy theorists like to call it the deep state, but it's not really deep, because it's pretty out there in the open when you see all of these people in positions of power, placed there by corrupt politcians. The President is just the figurehead to trot out on stage and placate the frothing masses with some farce vote every 5 years to make it seem like they're the ones in control.

[@kalebaldwin5398]

It’s not the president that matters, it’s who the president appoints to very important positions, including on the courts. Donald Trump on his own is just a buffoon with a serious case of malignant narcissism. It’s the people around him and the people he would appoint who are really bad. But yes, a lot of things stay the same between administrations, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

[@alexu9696]

Also IRAN ally with USA, throw the far left kool aid Vaush.

[@GhostintheMachine-eg5wm]

I'm the three hundredth to like.

[@alansmith4655]

I think im done with Vaush talking about foreign policy. He gets so much wrong. He thinks Dubai is a country. He pronounces Eritrea 'E-rit-rea', and he thinks SA going to Africa to sell oil and/or prop up oil friendly autocrats is something new to Africa. Read "The Looting Machine". Africa's resources have been tied up by western interests for many, many decades already. Including big oil in places like Nigeria and Angola.

[@cobracrystal_]

I don't really understand. The first two things you named are obviously just pointless semantics to point out, and for the third, unless im crazy vaush didn't really say that? I assume you're talking about the segment around 11:10 but its not like hes saying that its new or that africa doesn't know about this or anything like that? Hes directly pointing out that it happens and that its bad, i don't see how that's wrong. The obvious position is that its also wrong when western forces do it, but that is somewhat irrelevant in the context vaush is talking about here.

[@Jasonsmith-sr1ke]

Vaush wants you to vote for Biden. That should be enough reason to discount everything else he says.

[@averagedemocrat9546]

Alansmith when you call the Netherlands 'holland'

[@gorney6289]

​@@Jasonsmith-sr1kesure, don't vote and let orange dictator man win as if that's better 😂

[@JoshSweetvale]

12:30 _Strongly_ disagree. Coalition forces left Iraq and Afghanistan and they _immedeately_ turned to theocracy. If you snapped your fingers and put Iran on its own planet, a virgin Earth, they'd never democratize. Not in a billion years. *Islam is a religion that does not tolerate dissent.* The Catholic church at least got fat and lazy in Italy, allowing Protestantism to take hold. 17:00 "Israel is bad for the middle-east" is like saying "the existence of Jews is bad for Nazis." Well too bad for the Nazis then. Yeah. That's the point. They're the good guys stopping the bad guys. And if you can't call Islamic theocracy evil, what groups on this planet _can_ you call evil? 'but Israel is evil too.' Compared to _all their neighbours?!_ 19:20 Never again. Those words are terrifyingly literal. An absolute, and I like that. 25:40 That's absurd. Remember the 'arab spring'?

[@Musketsandbayonet]

Finally someone not retarded

[@LimeyLassen]

So .. fuck religion basically? I'm not sure what else to take away from this rant.

[@somerandommen]

They snapped back to theocracy because we did nothing to meaningfully change the material conditions of those nations.

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@LimeyLassen I just think Vaush is fluffing up (parts of) the Middle-East as more moral and more competent than they actually are. Yes, generalization, there's patches of civility, but those tend to get conquered by god-botherers. If we 'stop poing them' they won't democratize, they'll radicalize. That's my antithesis to Vaush's thesis.

[@abdihakimjama1556]

What I understood was that you can justify any amount of evil so long as it is directed towards Muslim states. He is also very, very wrong. Islam has always been tremendously diverse and the first caliphs were elected to the position. Democracy and Muslim people are not anathema.

[@alansmith4655]

Move Israel to Iowa.

[@tokukeitaro]

The actual other option was Alaska apparently.

[@xSoccerFreak7]

Vowsh is an America bad tankie with no opinions other than America bad because his unpaid mods bully everyone with a different opinion and he’s scared of twitter tankies bullying him

[@alexkats30]

An amazing piece of objective analysis of the region and the incredible harm that the US has done to it by projecting its own wants and interests upon it and punishing them militarily if they react in the process. Which really makes me wonder, how Vaush can rationalize himself into positions of portraying current US & NATO military actions as good on a particular instance, even though they are just business-as-usual perpetuations of past problematic actions and policies in the grander scheme of things, on a dime.

[@FelisImpurrator]

You're begging the question a bit here. What positions do you take issue with and why?

[@FelisImpurrator]

Heads up: Your response got banished to the shadow realm. Hard deleted.

[@UmQasaann]

Look up the millennium challenge, It took the United States loses a war with Iran.

[@monatheepic4476]

I want Vaush’s take on the Iranian pavilion in Dubai. I’m Persian. I want Vaush to read it to filth, no one reads like him!!