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[@robinvik1]

Don't worry guys, the Vaushv subreddit is one of the oldest democratic subreddits and have always had a lax moderation policy. There is no way this one incident will set a bad precedence for the future.

[@osjos2822]

It's not like the South Sudan subreddit or anything, it's high on the freedom index.

[@vladimirkovacevic4415]

Is this supposed to be ironic ?

[@z4ruga479]

Im honestly kinda worried about this

[@somethingsomething9006]

@@z4ruga479 Worried about the moderation of a damn subreddit lmao

[@z4ruga479]

@@somethingsomething9006 thats one way to See it i guess. I was talking more about the mindset in general

[@Pepsiman1848]

First Voosh came for the fascists, and I did not speak out, for I wasn’t a fascist. Then Vowsh came for the tankies, and I did not speak out, for I wasn’t a tankie. Then Veesh came for the American liberals, and I did not speak out, for I wasn’t an American liberal. Then ✓@ц§н came for me. -Canadian liberals

[@Blank_Dude2]

I didn't even notice Vaush was getting goofed until it was all symbols

[@culturedboor]

Canada. The *Nice* Arms Dealer. Canada. The *Nice* Native American Persecutor. Canada. The *Nice* Financial Ruiner. Nice!

[@Killroy007]

But germany wanted to be the nice arms dealer!

[@BlackEpyon]

Well, we're not "shoot first and ask questions later" Americans. Jesus.

[@culturedboor]

@@BlackEpyon True. You’ll just happily sell the weapons to those who are.

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

This meme needs black-face Trudeau giving the thumbs-up.

[@void-creature]

@@Killroy007 nonono, we want to be the 'Innocent' arms dealer, because how is possibly it our fault if the factories are actually in Italy? While it is true that Canada is cramming our niche a little bit here, which isn't nice (just like the thousands of German POWs they executed in the world wars), I can assure you Germany is still 1# when it comes to exporting hypocrisy to the world.

[@backwardsbandit8094]

Canada is a lovely, peaceful and democratic country where no one would ever violate ones civil liberties unless an absolute crisi-- NO DONT DIG UNDERGROUND AT THE CANADIAN RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS I SWEAR IT WASNT EVEN THAT BAD PLEASE BELIEVE ME PLEASE OH GOD STOP

[@freakishuproar1168]

I'm just picturing Vaush digging up the school grounds with a spade, laughing maniacally, as an enormous crowd of Canadian liberals headed by Justin Trudeau (face scrunched up and red, tears streaming down his face) as they beg Vaush to stop digging for the love of the erstwhile Ol' Queen Liz.

[@novietakes9222]

the fact that people are way more upset about a 30-day Vaush Reddit ban than a 30-day relaxation of civil liberties is… interesting

[@mrbeast85]

Well unless you live in Canada, the 30 day Reddit ban probably has a greater effect on you than a foreign government doing foreign government stuff...

[@novietakes9222]

@@mrbeast85 of course many of the bans are Canadians and they’re Very Upset. and also the fact that one of these things objectively does not matter and the other is, objectively, a big problem.

[@torrb420]

They are only "leftists" because orange man bad and they needed a way to make friends. That's all it ever was.

[@crotchy7667]

@@novietakes9222 I got banned and I'm not very upset. I think it's funny and weird of Vaush. He didn't even try to ironically parody the circumstances of the emergency act by having an admin vote on whether to implement widespread bans.

[@crotchy7667]

The fact that Vaush seems to be okay with residents of Ottawa being martyrs so he can virtue signal about civil liberties is telling.

[@ForgottenSonata]

The fundamental problem with us Canadians is that we want to be treated like star pupils for receiving a C- mark because at least we can point and laugh at America's D+.

[@redberdyaev6648]

This is literally our "national identity" lol

[@Kazoo_man64]

Cant argue with that. Us Americans have the BIGGEST D.

[@MrDaAsif]

Europe is the student getting a C+ 🤣

[@thesaltybeard1793]

@@Kazoo_man64 funny thing about that. Average penis size of Canadians is a firm hard and sturdy 6 inches. Americans seem to fall short by about half an inch. So... Idk what to say other than we win that competition.

[@thesaltybeard1793]

Love it. And that one grade of difference is mostly our health care system pulling the mark up. I mean. We produce gems like peterson so.

[@thewoollyviking5928]

I feel like this is just the result of Americans joking about how much nicer Canada is for so many years that Canadians have just started adopting the meme and this is just a very rude awakening

[@emtheslav2295]

Also, Canadians want any reason to think they’re not American, that when they hear the stereotypes, they think “oh yeah, that’s why we’re better than Americans, we’re nicer!”

[@PipeGuy64Bit]

@@emtheslav2295 They say as they cover up their past treatment of indigenous tribes

[@ForgottenSonata]

This is so freaking true. I apologize for my Canadian brethren who are so convinced that we're nice that we become straight up assholes.

[@emtheslav2295]

@@PipeGuy64Bit exacly

[@dylanthesea2976]

@@PipeGuy64Bit Don't blame me for their treatment. I have nothing to do with my country's recent past.

[@greechen3080]

Vaush, instead of banning these people, have you considered just cutting off their access to the services of their banks? I don’t know much about it, but I’ve heard it’s completely harmless from some really smart Canadians.

[@Kazoo_man64]

Some people may think Vaush couldn’t do it but they’ve forgotten he’s CIA. In fact he *controls* the CIA

[@Justin_42]

@@Kazoo_man64 he doesn't just control the CIA. He is the entirety of the CIA

[@Kazoo_man64]

@@Justin_42 Vaushites will deny that he clones himself to occupy all CIA positions

[@Pendrake]

@@Kazoo_man64 Cloning? That's obviously bunk! What about when one of the clones inevitably gains free will and turns on him? Obviously he uses time travel to occupy all the positions at once. Those who deny it are simply blind to the truth!

[@sneakstr3973]

Ian "vaush" KoCIAnski

[@laflux]

As a Brit I'm glad we are not the most hated group in Vaush's mind anymore :)

[@christian2i]

Pretty sure the french weren't even worthy of hatred

[@giantmidget8630]

He has to make up his mind does he hate “British” people or the English cause every time he comes out with a stereotype or an accent it’s an English one.

[@kakyointhemilfhunter4273]

@@giantmidget8630 it’s all the same to us Americans

[@zakethekid1333]

@@giantmidget8630 there is no difference

[@goodpol5022]

Don’t be. Your still just as hated in everyone else’s mind

[@GreyFencer]

I love how canadian patriotism is so wrapped up in being "not america" despite them being basically just america lite

[@calebharris292]

They're the nice-guy™ America

[@sandorski56]

I think it's more a melding of British/European and American influences. Like what the Border lands between the 2 would be. One of the largest differences is how the 2 view Government. Americans tend to view Government with suspicion and distrust, while Canadians embraced the idea of "Peace, Order, and Good Government". Canada being "America Light" is such an American take on it that it can't be taken seriously.

[@alexandertheresurrection2810]

Canada is like the Mr Rogers of the world.

[@snuzzlebumble]

Diet Murica

[@everythingiseconomics9742]

@@sandorski56 lmao man, saying Cana isn't America lite is the most Canadian thing someone could ever say. Firstly because the less people know about Canada and America, the more likely they are to not be able to differentiate the two. Second, because your national identity is built upon exacerbating what makes you different from Americans. When really you're not much different from the US with a parliament.

[@Jaspertine]

It blows my mind how we could endure 9 fucking years of Stephen Harper, and people still somehow believe our nation and culture are exceptional.

[@redberdyaev6648]

It was actually 9 years, but your point still stands lol. Even more cringe, our Liberal party was the "natural governing party" for a lot of the 20th century. But yeah, as a Canadian myself, Canadian exceptionalism is cringe lol

[@Jaspertine]

@@redberdyaev6648 Was it really only 9? (asks google) okay yeah, I'm conflating numbers. I'll go ahead and fix that.

[@redberdyaev6648]

@@Jaspertine Google definitely has its uses

[@emm8357]

@@Jaspertine now I’m intrigued by which number was there before the edit…

[@ManicPandaz]

@@redberdyaev6648 Canadian exceptionalism isn’t really cringe, it’s pretty milk toast. All countries on the planet have their own brand of nationalistic exceptionalism. Canada by contrast often apologizes for its mistakes, undermining said exceptionalism. Most countries don’t do that. Looking at Russian or American exceptionalism of “we are the best country on the planet” is rather different then most counties exceptionalism of “our country does some select things better than all/most other countries”. Really, hearing an American compare their exceptionalism to other countries and a kinda dishonest. They are not the same in definition or scope.

[@TheGodofweak]

As an Ottawa viewer, I found this hilarious. Loving this purge, I work with so many liberals and conservatives and they don't realize how similar they are with their Canadian nationalism and I fucking hate it.

[@falkorornothing261]

I did a exchange program after high school in Europe. It was for Americans and Canadians. Every Canadian had a maple leaf on something, but none of the Americans had anything patriotic. 🤣 This was during the Bush Jr. era and we joked that the canadians just didn't want to be mistaken for americans. I like the canadians and their sense of humor. Loonies and Toonies🤣 ❤it 🍻

[@falkorornothing261]

@ger du the Americans in our group joked about putting on a maple leaf but I don't think anyone did it. First question I would get asked is, "are you American". Then, "what you think about Bush". I was in Holland and always enjoyed the conversations. And being in Holland it was easy to get drugs. At least the ones I wanted. 😁

[@Youtubeisntlettingmeuseczech]

"thats fine" *30 day ban for telling Vaush to pet Artemy and take a nap*

[@ignemuton5500]

based username

[@jctyrtle8038]

Based ban

[@Youtubeisntlettingmeuseczech]

@@ignemuton5500 *Nakam noises*

[@mizel101]

אבאל'ה?

[@bigpooper4156]

Banworthy, pigeon exclusionism

[@hauntedconstellations6039]

This Vaush Vs. Canada arc is really funny and I’m waiting for the full color graphic novel adaptation featuring Mary Elizabeth Winstead

[@Sugarman96]

It's been a very unexpected arc, but I'm happy with the way it's developed.

[@christian2i]

@@Sugarman96 you missed a star wars meme opportunity.

[@Sugarman96]

@@christian2i I did? Shit.

[@christian2i]

@@Sugarman96 a surprise [arc] to be sure but a welcome one

[@theunholinesswithin70]

Kate is a damn good movie.

[@Scooter_Alice]

People be like "but MY surveillance state is the *good* one!"

[@Torgan454]

thats a cute pony picrew pfp

[@Scooter_Alice]

@@Torgan454 tyyy

[@Torgan454]

wanbe friends

[@underthedice1231]

A running saying up here is: Canadians are satisfied as long as they are above the bar set by the US. Québec is satisfied as long as they are above the bar set by the ROC. When the US started to legalize weed, we (Canada) didn't like being behind so we finally got our shit together. When another province passed a single payer system, we (Québec) had our set up faster than the other one could get challenged in court. In both population, we have a huge contingent that is satisfied with the mediocrity of "at least we aren't them." It is very paralysing for any positive change.

[@crotchy7667]

I disagree. If Canadians only wanted to be above the bar set by the US, then we would have just let Conservatives privatize all essential services and just tried to be a little better than the US. Instead, there was backlash about cutting government spending on services, cutting jobs in the public sector, and austerity in general.

[@underthedice1231]

​@@crotchy7667 Thanks for proving my point. We DID still cut every one of our essential services, we DID privatize a lot of public sector things. We even destroyed laboratories that were UNIQUE in the world. . . . BUT a gap between Canada and the US still exist. So you are ok with it and don't see it as privatisation and austerity.

[@prettyokandy230]

@@underthedice1231 i'm inclined to call this a 2nd round KO.

[@Blueberry_Koi]

@@crotchy7667 we literally did

[@wilhelmkreis6578]

What's the ROC?

[@toughercoot0518]

Omg 😂 imagine being so emotionally attached to a fucking streamer that you treat it like a breakup and post a whole ass book about it.

[@sheriefelsayad5578]

lol exactly , some ppl are insane

[@Feefa99]

his parasocial exfanboys are like Gollum, always scheming, always full of toxic thoughts

[@diamondkfc6183]

it's a modified copypasta in case you didn't know

[@StyxTBuferd]

I'm like 99% certain that was a joke.

[@toughercoot0518]

@@StyxTBuferd I really hope so but it’s hard to tell at this point 😂

[@PapaMetalhead]

I don't understand how any Canadians can say we're a nice and great country when hate attacks towards Muslims are WAY the fuck up, and we continue to ignore the terrible economic problems of indigenous people. This "well at least we aren't America" attitude is the reason we can't pass any real progressive and radical policies.

[@crotchy7667]

I like to think it's BECAUSE we have Muslim and Sikh people as well as others and they are part of what makes Canada a "nice and great country".

[@mckenzie.latham91]

These attacks are from far right and conservative groups, the sad part is that we have a good deal of neo nazis and far right types in our right wing spectrum Truedau has already stated and enforced the power of the, “hate speech and hate crime laws” which protect people of ethnic, religious and sexuality from oppression. "and we continue to ignore the terrible economic problems of indigenous people.” This is a very complicated issue (and yes the canadian government doesn’t help a lot of the time) but the issue is that many of these chefs are corrupt and pocketing the money and funds, other gorups want less government involvement and the ability to run and operate their own autonomous group others will take billions from the government, claim they are getting nothing and no ones helping them and then pocket the money and not spend it themselves on infrastructure and instead want the federal to fund the whole thing as well as upon giving them money. and then yes there are actual issues where the provincial and federal institutions are not doing their job or having trouble implementing these things and that should be viewed and addressed.

[@modernmyth9050]

As an American I'd very much enjoy having a homeland with good infrastructure and universal healthcare... that isn't wracked by white guilt and degeneracy around every corner. You should count yourself lucky.

[@vivekshah7769]

@@crotchy7667 Nice platitude. Now what specifically makes their presence so nice?

[@thesaltybeard1793]

@@modernmyth9050 whoa we are better than America. Just not by nearly as much as we wanna believe. Chill. XD

[@doratheace]

People didn't take him seriously when he said he was a libertarian socialist and now are getting mad when he's talking like a libertarian socialist. Also, people like Vaush opened my eyes to how America really is, so I don't see any American exceptionalism.

[@akorn9943]

the time honored libertarian practice of banning all dissidents 😌

[@ascii_9727]

@@akorn9943 libertarianism is when no bans in subreddits and the less bans there are the more libertarian it is. When it has no bans and moderators, it's anarchism. 🤔

[@FelisImpurrator]

@@ascii_9727 I guess 8chan is almost as anarchist as it gets then, 9Head

[@medes5597]

Vaush realising he has a ton of liberals in his audience who think he's one of them is a "finally" moment. I think a lot of people took the Biden vote stuff the wrong way.

[@medes5597]

@@akorn9943 I'd ban liberals as well.

[@Vexe]

I love how a lot of these arguments boil down to "we're just built different"

[@redberdyaev6648]

As a Canadian, I can say that the kind of Canadian exceptionalism Vaush talks about is kind of common. It's really annoying. There are some differences in our political systems, but culturally we're very similar to Americans. A lot of it is a pathetic attempt to construct a national identity.

[@calebharris292]

I kinda want to know if Canadians have the same racial biases against Latin Americans that the U.S. has; but they don't interact with them as much so it's "not their problem"

[@redberdyaev6648]

@@calebharris292 That wouldn't be a bad guess from what I can tell.

[@crotchy7667]

@@calebharris292 that's a good question. I don't think Canada has a large right wing mainstream media channel that pushes fear about immigration and "demographic" changes. So that could be one factor that diminishes racial bias against Latin Americans. Apologies if I misunderstood what you mean.

[@k_thirteen]

As a Canadian as well, I have to agree. So many people here are convinced that Canada is one of the greatest places on Earth and tend to try and look past all the negatives both present and past.

[@CynicalBastard]

What kind of identity should people have? collectively, I mean? Like, you know what a 'nation' is, right? it's basically blend of ethnic groups with some "similarities" - banal national ties.

[@MarkArandjus]

It's amazing how many people just can not wrap their mind around the fact that when the government does a thing to people you disagree with, they can also do it to you.

[@nullobjecttype]

How do u know they wouldnt just do it anyways? Would the government just be like "oh yeah we didnt freeze their assests back in the truckers protest, now it will be impossible to do it with this new labor movement?"

[@zakethekid1333]

@@nullobjecttype yeah that's always a possibility but that doesn't mean we shouldn't oppose it in this case.

[@nullobjecttype]

@@zakethekid1333 sure. But vaush's rationale is that covert state influnce over this protest will set a precedent that would lead to more of this in the future. All im saying is that that is a flawed way to look at it. And in my opinion, ironically, puts just as much faith in the government that they wouldnt do something like this to a left wing government, as the supporters of the freezing of assets

[@MarkArandjus]

​@@nullobjecttype To clarify, my argument isn't "if they can't do it to them, they can't do it to us" My argument is "If we oppose it when they do it to us, we must oppose it when they do it to them, because we must always make it harder for the government to behave like this" Also, ideological consistency matters. Having a double standard makes us no better than the right wing.

[@nullobjecttype]

@@MarkArandjus i was mostly speaking to vaush's stance and a lot of those who agree with him, so my bad for making a tangent. I agree on the ideological consitency part. But saying that they dont belive this would happen to them is a misrepresentation of the belifes of those who support the measures

[@blendernoob64]

This battle between liberals and Vaush is one of the funniest things to happen ever. I just started watching him and I am very much entertained.

[@joshfennell2257]

You came at a good time.

[@shortymccutlery8919]

I’m a Canadian and the criticism is really refreshing to hear.

[@tf299]

@@ANationalguy From what I understood from his debate with a canadian fan, Vaush thinks both wouldn't be ideal, but he feels freezing assets is going to be more harmful to protestors (in general) than sending in the military. Prefering a quick and potentialy violent resolution to a slow and potentialy peacefull starvation.

[@JeepnHeel]

The perfect Canadian response if you also throw in a quick apology

[@7TheWhiteWolf]

I’m Canadian and I agree with Vaush 100%, Canadians think this country is a progressive utopia, but the truth is it’s a corporate oligarchy and the Liberals only favour the rich.

[@7TheWhiteWolf]

You basically can’t even own a home here, and the Liberals and Trudeau don’t give a shit.

[@tf299]

@@ANationalguy How do you know these accounts wont be permanetly frozen? And how do you know the next goverment won't be more similar to Chinas goverment in their ambitions of control. The most lilely answers to both of these are: the bans wont be permanent and the next goverment wont abuse these laws to crack down on normal people. But having an ability to freeze someones assets (like what China does) as law is scarry.

[@Juhz0r]

43:47 This rant was one of my favorite Vaush moments so far.

[@ProfDCoy]

Yeah, that's pretty much every lefties the bottled-up rage against aesthetically-polite liberals. It's bad enough there are actual fascists and authoritarians who really want state power to be brutal and inescapable. It's fucking terrifying and infuriating how many notipnally centre-left liberals are only against that kind of evil because it makes them feel bad when they have to see it on TV. Politeness over principles.

[@friend7120]

literally debating via reddit post edits. certified reddit moment

[@carlcondenced]

As someone who used to fantasize about moving to Canada when I was older, I agree with you 100%.

[@mizel101]

It's still a nice fantasy

[@prettyokandy230]

there's only two true havens in this world, Israel for obvious reasons and Switzerland for direct democracy neoliberals.

[@mizel101]

@@prettyokandy230 I'm from Israel and I'd move to Canada if given the opportunity in a heart beat. And not just because of moral objections about WB shit either. Just because of quality of life reasons.

[@dishonoredundead]

Broke my heart too. There goes my escape plan. I've been seeing tons of uploads of Canadian cops, and they too seem to be taking a page out of the old USA authoritarian Oops All Lead cookbook. Healthcare still sounds nice though.

[@mizel101]

@@derrindouglas1936 like I said, for quality of life reasons. Better public transportation, better healthcare, better education system...

[@whatausernamethisis8893]

I haven't seen the rest of the video yet, but I'm hoping that Vaush realized that the post in the opener is a copypasta. Edit: he does. Thank fucking God.

[@d.l.7416]

he does

[@torrb420]

Prof Flowers was right, we now know where the racists in his community were at all along. It's always Canada.

[@goodpol5022]

Wait did she really say that?

[@antarath517]

*Blame Canada starts blaring*

[@tmanthepseudophilosopher9526]

I feel like Vaush doesn’t get how liberal his community is.

[@MontageLegacy]

Yeah he doesn't. He built a base to broad

[@andreja9425]

i don’t get how liberal it is either, when did that happen

[@tmanthepseudophilosopher9526]

@@andreja9425 He tends to focus on reform, so it makes perfect sense.

[@mrbeast85]

Well..... some people have always said that Vaush is something of a liberal with socialist aesthetics....

[@andreja9425]

@Tman the pseudo Philosopher @mrbeast85 I mean deep down I’m a revolutionary socialist, but that’s just not an avenue we have the means of going down atm so focusing on reform while still being heavily critical can actually make improvements to people’s lives in the mean time. All the while radicalizing people and pushing things further and further left. Calling for revolutionary action is easy to do on twitter but it accomplishes nothing rn. Even if someone started one the fascists and military would wipe the floor with us and our relatively low numbers and largely untrained population. Just because someone is in favor of reforms doesn’t mean they’re not a socialist. I think we also need more organized direct action but there are limits on what we can actually achieve. Sabotaging exploitative or environmentally disruptive operations in minecraft would definitely do something but beyond that and lots of labor strikes (which are extremely hard to coordinate and motivate people to participate in) we don’t have a lot of options until we get larger numbers.

[@VictorShade1]

Man I was wondering why Vaush hated Canadians for awhile, but after this I don't blame him this is hell

[@glenndiddy]

I played FF7, sometimes you need to blow up infrastructure in an attempt to stop the planet dying. Didn't everyone learn eco-terrorists are based from gaming?

[@bloo9699]

Of all the things to become a major point of contention, this one was pretty surprising and confusing.

[@pieppy6058]

we need to hate raid destiny and spam that his "outfit looks cute~"

[@noone26667]

20:52 I can't believe Vaush would play an unedited clip while eating a bagel

[@The8BitPianist]

Honestly, telling good arguments from bad ones is not that easy for most people, including me. I need to pay attention and actively ask questions while reading/listening to do that. I think Vaush talking about engaging with arguments systemetically on streams would be great EDIT: He does that all the time, I mean a dedicated segment

[@philipgodin7222]

Atlantic Canadian here, living in the GTA in my early 30s. Canada has been having this disillusioned view of itself for as long as ive been alive. I always see Canada tag teaming with the US in horrible shit since the Iraq days, but people always like to brag and tout how great Canada is. It never stuck well with me, and from the 2000s to now it seems to have never changed, despite hardships and problems we still face. It makes discussion for improvements or reforms far more difficult when in the proxy of the US because Canadians will always revert to "Well, atleast we arent as bad as the US." Its infurating. I had to bridge the Trudeau discussion from beginning to end to help them realize just how bad Trudeau's actions have been.

[@glooboy2206]

It's the same here in the UK. Us and the Canadians always act so high and mighty when it comes to the US and seem completely ignorant of the fact that everytime the US does something we jump in as well. We're all as bad as eachother and it's about time we realised it.

[@TheNathanielDurand]

I agree with almost everything you said except, please don't pull an Ann Coulter here: "I always see Canada tag teaming with the US in horrible shit since the Iraq days" We really did not go to Iraq.

[@goodpol5022]

“Canada is one of the oldest modern democracies in the world” They say as they respond to an American

[@Laura-zc6rm]

Canada is like baby in age compared to other countries, hell there are carribean vountries older than them. Even more to 246 years of existence that the USA has

[@goodpol5022]

@@Laura-zc6rm For 2/3 of Canada’s existence it was under complete rule of the British Empire. I’ve seen some Canadians argue that during that time Canada was more racist than the US. Canada wasn’t a true independent democracy until the turn of the 19th century. Near all Latin American countries had at least one Revolution by the end of the Napoleonic wars. Canada is in no way one of the oldest democracies in the world lmao

[@agreedboarart3188]

The US isn't a democracy though. I wish it was, but it isn't.

[@goodpol5022]

@@agreedboarart3188 Sure but if we are going there… Parliamentary Canada is definitely not a true democracy

[@mckenzie.latham91]

It’s not even true, Greece (more precise Athens) was the actual oldest democracy in the world (it founded democracy) that being said while we’re not perfect and can be and should be far better here in Canada i felt most of Vaush's arguments were barley researched, barely informed and just more reactionary hinged ranting takes than reality. The emergency measures act actually was written with oversight written into it. Again the Brian Mulroney government that created it, was so hesitant to write the law that they literally ensured it that it has imbedded and inherent oversight and regulatory ability woven into every aspect it Not only does the government have to have multiple hearings before the other parties in parliament to justify this, but a mandatory investigation and independent review of the cause, justification, and etc of the government in enacting the act occurs right away The fact that Vaush ranted like this is verbatim the patriot act which itself has no oversight and or any regulatory aspects written into it at all shows how lazy and fucking stupid the progressive left are when it comes to this subject Also Vaush clearly knows nothing, The Canadian civil rights commission literally launched a lawsuit against the government and called for an investigation of why they enacted the act, and they might actually win it if the government cannot prove sufficient means to have enacted this. if they win the courts can overrule the measure act because it did not meet the criteria required to enact it so yes you can sue the fucking government over it. and Yes actually the people of Ottawa do matter, and were a factor in it’s passing not solely the economic issue (the trucks blocking the bridges and major trade and trucking routes had already been cleared, it was downtown Ottawa that was blocked off and shut down) Ottawa, Ontario and etc are among one of the major provinces and city areas that guarantee a party the election If you lose Ottawa and Ontario your party will never be elected. Not pissing them off is key to that goal.

[@mossymosscreature]

I'm more and more ashamed of being Canadian every day. Cringy teenage me just getting into politics definitely thought we were some elevated country above the refuse of the US and touted our freedoms like a fucking nationalist. After moving past my edgy, cringy phase of thinking we were the centre of good in the universe I realised that we're just the US with a better coat of paint.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Save the “white guilt like self hate, it doesn’t suit the north strong and free. We’re not angels here in Canada, and anyone who thinks so should be put in their place, but we’re fast tracked better than most and especially better than the US on a lot of issues, including trying to fix our mistakes (even though yes we keep making them), and while we can and need to be better, we aren't shameful. First off, Vaush doesn't even pretend to look up the fact that these measures cannot be activated willy nilly, it requires full support from the leading party and the Provinces therein in which it’s activated and there is a mandatory inquiry/investigation afterwards by the review and independent boards of Canada, as well as a justification hearing that the government has to do with the rest of the elected parties to prove the need to use this. This means that nothing can be done in secret, the government and thus the media will be informed because it is mandatory and necessary to do so which defeats the notion Vaush was putting out that these “silent” freezing of assets was covert the freaking government had to publicly and did publicly say they would be doing this, As well, It is literally something that is so unprecedented that it has cost a to of politcall good will and poll points with Canadians to have enacted it and further more the multiple mandatory investigations and regulatory procedures built into it cannot be shut down and or ignored. this is not something that you can just snap your fingers any time you please with no long term consequences, and it has a lot of regulatory measures that have to be followed, UNLKE the fucking patriot act which requires no oversight, no hearings and absolutely no justification to or for anyone so SPARE ME Vaush about the similarities between Canada and the US big brother bullshit as for fucking precedents... we’re really lucky, we’ve had only two incidents in the last 50-60 years where the “military” or some form of martial law. war measures and or emergency act has been implemented, and in each time it was in response to a terrorist political party kidnapping and murdering an elected official and a literal mohawk “rebellion” that the Quebec provincial police couldn’t handle on their own. this act has never been used against working class and or working poor at all because it was never intend to and our governments have to actually follow these codes because at least most of our people actually give a shit.

[@mattiassollerman]

I understand you're disappointed right now but Canada is neither the centre of good in the universe nor just the US with a better coating. "just the US with a better coating" is an assesment that manages to needlessly denigrate both countries.

[@GynocentrismWatch]

You don't need to be ashamed of being a Canadian to simply not be a jingoist. I want Canada to be a better country, but libtard imperialistic English Canadians who give anyone who isn't an English Canadian a hard time gets in the way of that. Honestly, I never was a kind of jingoist who Canada as being "inferior" to my country (military and population numbers notwithstanding). But I'd be lying if jingoists didn't test my patience.

[@kylegidluck3486]

@@mckenzie.latham91 Well said! Had my arm broken at Oka, in '90 by our faschist Feds! And I'm no fan of Government, but for some one who's usually at least half informed I find Vaushs takes on this one mad Sussy!!

[@auto117666]

You have paint?

[@yeroptok]

Canadian conservative KZbinr JJ Mccullough actually called out an interesting fact that Canadian nationalism is defined by anti American center left politics rather than the right wing politics that defines most countries nationalism. When you understand this, all of this weird discourse makes way more sense.

[@avenuePad]

That's an "interesting fact"? That's not a fact. That's some conservative's lazy opinion. Canada's nationalism is, and always has been, in disarray. We've always had an identity problem. Conservatives historically identify with the monarchy and liberals with our progressive policies, multiculturalism, etc... The conservative base in Canada has gone off the rails. And since when does right wing politics define most countries nationalism? Denmark's nationalism is based on egalitarianism and social welfare. Hardly right wing. This JJ McCullough sounds like a typical conservative dbag.

[@SirKickBan]

As a Canadian, I can absolutely confirm a pervasive attitude of "Canada can do no wrong", though in my experience this is more prevalent in the older generations. My only disagreement with Vaush here is that it doesn't seem (From what I've seen, at least) clear exactly what orders Trudeau has given to banks regarding the finances of people associated with the protests. I may have missed something, but I've only been able to find vague press summaries, and no specifics. If Vaush's interpretation of the orders given is accurate, them I'm absolutely in agreement: It's a shameful display, it's incredibly dangerous, and it would be quite literally less egregious to have the police roll into the protest, black bag every last person there, and throw them in a hole for 30 days. At least that way you'd know you were only getting people who were physically present, as opposed to just.. Leaving it in the hands of banks to decide from afar who is and isn't associated enough to have their access to money cancelled, with literally no oversight or recourse for those affected. That said, it may be possible that the actual orders given to banks are more specific (Targetting, for instance, only accounts that have transfered exceptionally large amounts or act as intermediaries for a large number of other accounts, or if they only disable the ability to transfer money between accounts and not in-person debit or credit card usage, etc. etc.), in which case I *somewhat* disagree with Vaush's assessment, though without oversight (Due process, etc.), protections against extreme harm (Ensuring the affected won't, you know.. Starve to death because no money, and the like), and a means of legal recourse if they feel they've been wrongfully targeted, then it's still an abysmal decision, and one that unironically makes me ashamed of my country.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

The issue with the argument here by Vaush is that he doesn't even seem to pretend to look up the fact that these measures cannot be activated willy nilly, it requires full support from the leading party and the Provinces therein, in which it’s activated and there is a mandatory inquiry/investigation afterwards by the review and independent boards of Canada, as well as a justification hearing that the government has to do with the rest of the elected parties to prove the need to use this. It is literally something that is so unprecedented that it has cost a lot of political good will and poll points among in general against the liberals from Canadians to have enacted it and further more it has multiple mandatory investigations and regulatory procedures that follow it. this is not something that you can just snap your fingers any time you please with no long term consequences, and it has a lot of regulatory measures that have to be followed, UNLKE the fucking patriot act which requires no oversight, no hearings and absolutely no justification to anyone Again the Brian Mulroney government that created it, was so hesitant to write the law that they literally ensured it that it has imbedded and inherent oversight and regulatory ability woven into every aspect it The fact that Vaush ranted like this is verbatim the patriot act which has no oversight and or any regulatory aspects written into it at all shows how lazy and fucking stupid the progressive left are when it comes to this subject couldn’t even fucking fact check the entire bill Also Vaush clearly knows nothing, The Canadian civil rights commission literally launched a lawsuit against the government and called for an investigation of why they enacted the act, and they fight actually win it if the government cannot prove sufficient means to have enacted this. so yes you can sue the fucking government over it

[@jackdeath]

Comrade Vaush, In Canada the Liberal's are also known as _THE GRITS_

[@crabohato4954]

Sounds crunchy

[@kifypie]

Genuinely the first step to any political discussion in Canada is convincing the other person they’re not special for being Canadian. Or Québécois. It’s always one or the other

[@dakunssd]

Canada is just a conglomerate of mining companies with a state attached like a leaky appendix. And Vaush is very right, when I visit my relatives in Toronto, it reminds me A LOT more of the US than anywhere in Europe, all of the ways and all of the time.

[@110000116699]

canada has this weird left wing nationalism that grades itself in opposition to america

[@110000116699]

@@derrindouglas1936 i am australian and no there isnt left wing nationalism like canada has

[@110000116699]

@@derrindouglas1936 wtf does the homicide rate in texas have to do with what i said?

[@iz2333]

Tbf it's probably difficult to not feel superior next to the US.

[@derrindouglas1936]

@@110000116699 republicans running a state equals inequality and removal of freedom to opportunity

[@derrindouglas1936]

@@110000116699 yeah because your usa lap dog. Sucking up to capitalist and elitist.

[@leningradcowboy2953]

The tankie arc and it’s ramifications have been a disaster for mankind

[@DebatniDenik]

I have never been prouder to not be a Canadian.

[@ForgottenSonata]

Valid. I kind of wish I wasn't one right now lol.

[@derrindouglas1936]

Canadians are actually far healthier and far richer or far nicer. Vaush seems dumb here. This anti Americanism is because of trump so blame trump. And New Zealand is far more anti usa

[@falkorornothing261]

@@derrindouglas1936 no. 🎶blame Canada, blame Canada🎶

[@derrindouglas1936]

@@okman7504 and? I don’t have to suck up to a dirty country with terrible health and minimum wage

[@derrindouglas1936]

@@okman7504 if it wasn’t for your crazy pillow guy or trump promoting this.

[@chromaticstatic568]

The entire rant from 43:48 - 47:14 needs to be it’s own video, unbelievably based rant. Thermia, CoconutIsland, get on it!

[@holdommi7505]

54:06 this deserves to go in the vaush hall of fame clips along side the “Albania is next to Azerbaijan, reta- NOO” clip my sides hurt from laughing so hard

[@Inertiafivezero]

That guy from the intro is 100% Destiny himself :DDDD

[@TheHalflingLad]

29:18 - One day Tom Hardy will play Vaush in a biopic and "YOU FUKKIN LIBRALS" will be the award winning line.

[@raghavpatel720]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love this bit

[@The8BitPianist]

The hills Vaush had to die on recently are absurd. "Ethnic Clensing bad", "Government Overreach to Freeze Assets bad". What is even going on

[@Ojja78]

I haven't watched too much Vaush, and I wasn't totally sure about him, though I've always really appreciated his takes on things and his viewpoint. After watching this, I no longer have doubts. This was an exceptional treatment of the liberal/leftist divide and quite cathartic to listen to.

[@OnlyRoke]

That scathing rant in the middle was pure gold. That hit the nail on the head.

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

Opening the video with the ultimate betrayal is top teir hook material. I'm all in and I'm not even 20 seconds in.

[@crotchy7667]

Wow crazy. I got banned and I wasn't being "smug" but I was "wrong" for talking back about his points and his stated motivation (for the Canadian government to have "bad optics").

[@jennyclark9505]

I watch for the interesting take on issues, I like learning more and I find that I agree with you on many opinions. Been here for quite some time and will continue to be. Keep on with the great content.

[@idontwantcorporateretaliat6301]

xxx exceptionalism is how you end up w/voter disenfranchisement, legalized corruption, Brexit, Donald Trump, and a coup attempt while presidential vote certification happens.

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

The opener letter is what Pigeon is going to write to Vowsh if he takes too long to turn the tap on for drinkies.

[@brandonm949]

I agree that freezing protesters' assets is messed up, but I feel like the "why would you ever trust the government" rant is reminiscent of conservatives who hate mask mandates, universal healthcare, etc. It's a weird take for someone who wants single-payer healthcare, automatic voter registration, publicly funded college, and other things that would give more control and information to the government.

[@zachantes1161]

Exactly, and it is only made worse by deciding the military option is the best option without even thinking about it.

[@mrbeast85]

It's a slippery slope fallacy. This is not a piece of new law that extends permanent powers (see the Police and Crime Bill in the UK for a slice of that yikes) its an extension of time limited emergency powers which are tightly delineated and require the consent of Parliament to activate. The law was already there and could have been exploited by a right-wing government against a left-wing protest anyway. Vaush also seems to be thinking about this in the abstract without paying any attention to the logistics of trying to use this law more often. As pointed out Vaush's preferred political stance would involve an expansion of government and/or state power and the same arguments could be deployed against that position. In fact they are, all the time, by opponents of socialised health care and even the mildest of gun control measures in the US.

[@danieldaw1778]

That rant Vaush had at @44:15 to 47:10 was straight fire. Made me think of the sentiment MLK expressed in his letter from a Birmingham jail: "First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

[@SuperAsefasef]

Ah yes American democracy is nothing like Canadian and other European democracy. Its not like they come from the same philosophical movement. It’s not like the movements towards democracy in Europe were sparked by the successful American revolution. It’s not like the Americans literally helped write the constitution of any Western European democracies or anything... oh wait all that is true.

[@gutentagmeinfreund3790]

There are significant differences between American democracy and other democracies (Two Partys, electoral college,etc.). While all "western" democracies are highly problematic (they are capitalist, duh) one can definitely say that the USA is the most problematic and one of the least democratic.

[@nathanielmathews2617]

This is one of the best laughs I have had in a while. This was genuinely amazing to listen to.

[@tristanarntzen244]

As a Canadian leftist I appreciate you doing this

[@kapelski104]

Vaush's head will explode of anger if he doesn't take a quick break from politics :D

[@thereccher8746]

As a Canadian, I'm really starting to hate a lot of my fellow Canadians after watching this stream. JEEEESUS.

[@PiggyKillerQ]

this is one of the most perfect vods/clips from vaush of all time

[@gabriellegoodwin4422]

“You people want blood to run in the sewer drains-not because it’s nicer but because you don’t have to see it in the streets anymore.” -Carl Marks, 2022

[@pranays]

I agree with you but just a couple of historical corrections. JUST AN FYI: The Supreme Court of Canada always shoots down back to work legislation. This law is also being challenged by The Canadian Civil Liberties Association

[@glennajohnson4731]

I take it you don't work for Canada Post. Two contract negotiations ago Steven Harper ordered us back to work and then Trudumb did the same last time

[@glenndiddy]

To me Canada is just French America, and the only thing I dislike more than America is the French language

[@brandonm949]

Top tier take. The French language is objectively awful.

[@crotchy7667]

So this is Vaush's moral absolutist arc.

[@yeeb2945]

I think this is probably Vonch's greatest hit

[@christian2i]

Military: aim for turbans Trudeau: That's why he doesn't want to deploy them

[@andrewgoldstein6271]

I fucking love you Vaush

[@enlightenednormie242]

The opening teaser was hilarious 😂😂😂

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

Possibly the most real and based Vaush has ever been.

[@Tymbus]

I've been a fan for a while but this is the most fun I have had so far!

[@Feefa99]

yeah Destiny's chat is much reliable choice, good luck with that xD

[@Kazoo_man64]

Im pretty sure that guy was meming with a modified pokimane simp copypasta.

[@avenuePad]

The Emergency Act is not martial law. The Canadian Charter and Bill of Rights. Not only that, but it has accountability in the House of Commons, the Senate, and the Supreme Court of Canada. Not to mention Canada has a minority gov't right now. The Emergency Act was needed because the police, and provincial and federal gov'ts failed to act right away. That said, hindsight is 20/20. Once the bridge was blockaded and there was no end in sight with the Ottawa situation something had to be done. It was a very unique situation and the Liberals gov't will be held accountable if the legal standard wasn't met. Even if the legal standard was met the electorate will also pass judgement at some point. Though, there are a lot of Canadians who agree it was necessary.

[@joshfennell2257]

Vaush's mug always looks like it's full of earwax gravy.

[@ddawajh]

when is vonch going to do a third pokemon smash or pass segment

[@TheCam920]

True, vaush needs to get back to his main content immediately

[@NoodleBerry]

I would just like to say The NDP voted against using the War Measures Act back in the day They voted for it this time around and I am actually disgusted.

[@ArdenJ]

The War Measures Act was repealed in the 80s

[@NoodleBerry]

@@ArdenJ I know that? The emergencies act is it’s (admittedly better) replacement

[@I31R0]

"dont worry this wont establish a bad precidence" this is the way

[@gallade1052]

The fact that vaush reblocked him makes me so happy

[@avalus6]

Get-em outta here! Get-em the hell outta here!

[@f1nger605]

I don't know if Vaush's point about the military having "more use of force training" than cops is accurate for Canada, but I do think there is a significant difference between US police culture and the military. I have a friend who was in the military and he used to always side with police whenever an unarmed black person was killed by a cop and it led to protests and riots. His reasoning always depended on an assumption that cops were like the military; that his experience, training, and culture was the same the police, so he gave them the benefit of the doubt. Why was it always black people getting shot? It was racist policies, not racist police. They were just doing their jobs. But as smartphones and such made police brutality more visible and undeniable, his attitude started to change. He would see cops panic and open fire in situations that he personally had been in, but managed to resolve without even touching his firearm; where cops prioritize their own personal safety over the safety of the people they are supposedly there to protect. By the time the George Floyd murder happened, my friend had done a complete 180°, and he now regards cops as cowardly racist babies who shit their pants whenever they see a dark skinned person. Obviously, military occupations are still bad. This isn't a point about how good the military is, but about how bad the police are. They're even more trigger happy than the people who have been occupying Iraq and Afghanistan for the past two decades. As ironic as it may seem, I trust the military to not kill civilians more than I trust the police.

[@orkinho1]

It’s not always black people, tho. No shit you guys have such idiot takes when you live outside reality.

[@travisbartley8546]

Just realized, this is the beginning of Vaush's Foucault arc.

[@apostleofazathoth7696]

"without engaging with the talking points that I've made" Now if that ain't a self-report idk what is

[@MrCaome]

A small tip that will help anyone in life. Never donate money to anyone online, 10usd to get a tiny bit of attention from a streamer is not worth it.

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

Damn that anti-lib rant around 45 minutes is straight up fucking fire.

[@jubjub4119]

Gosh I love this. It really makes the old toxic troll from early 2000s internet get a chub

[@bluhmer1990]

As someone not on Reddit, I'm just here for the content.

[@mizel101]

That first reddit post was top tier. I don't even know if it's a troll or not. It's perfect as it is.

[@frostthrone334]

It's a copypasta, the OG is from an Amouranth mod

[@Petemeister22]

The irony of Vaush calling other people smug. Lol.

[@spaceman7019]

But he's smug and right!

[@Manta665]

I don't know why, but confusing the SPD and the NPD is incredibly hilarious to me XD (17:30)

[@ybom06yt38]

vaush's mug should've said "Liberal Tears" on the side of it that faced the camera as he was reading through malding reddit posts

[@kitty7184]

I’ve been saying Canada is garage for years now.

[@MarkArandjus]

Hey now come on, that's not true! ...garages have a roof, Canada is a parking lot.

[@thereccher8746]

We have garages, to say we are a garage. I take that as an insult.

[@xSixthiSx]

I agree with 99% of your takes, but aren't we all disaffected liberals fighting for worker's rights and all the good soc dem stuff until the "right time"?

[@iz2333]

That might be true, however you call me a lib one more time and I'll steal the aglet from every single shoe you own.

[@brandonm949]

@@iz2333 You'll never get my aglets, lib!

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

You can't get to the right time without first making movements of "the right time's" nature

[@StudioNama]

damn, go off king.

[@ThaTruFily]

"You got 30 minutes to clear the fvckn area!"