Analyzing Evil: Ozymandias From Watchmen

[@ashleytupper6049]

One of the best ‘villain’ moments in comic book and movie history: Adrian Veidt: The Comedian was right. Humanity's savage nature will inevitably lead to global annihilation. So in order to save this planet, I have to trick it... with the greatest practical joke in human history. Dan Dreiberg: Killing millions? Adrian Veidt: To save billions. A necessary crime. Rorschach: You know we can't let you do that. Adrian Veidt: 'Do that', Rorschach? I'm not a comic book villain. Do you seriously think I would explain my master stroke to you if there were even the slightest possibility you could affect the outcome? I triggered it 35 minutes ago. Always get chills at that end line.

[@uzitay815]

I always loved he said he’s not a comic book villain like bro yes you are

[@egggnome6266]

@@uzitay815 I feel that's why The Joker is really the most dangerous villain of all time. He knows he's a comic book villain , so his insanity has no inhibitions.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

Indeed.

[@DundG]

@@egggnome6266 What has his knowledge that he is a comic book charakter to do with his danger level? He is as dangerous as the writers make him, and if the Joker knows this, he knows he can't surpass his limitations and will always loose to Batman. Ozymandias is far more dangerous, as he is written to be far more intelligent than the Joker. He succeded in his plan!

[@egggnome6266]

@@DundG You may want to look up the concept of meta and not try to fit things into those little boxes. We're trying to think outside of those.

[@michaelkaduck1915]

Ozymandias is the perfect embodiment of someone who has become so detached from humanity to recognize that there is still good. I know in the original comic, there are two characters, old Bernie and young Bernie, an old white man and a young black man, who form a great friendship over the course of the story. Old Bernie gives him a comic for free when young Bernie can't afford it, and old Bernie even throws himself in front of young Bernie to save him. When the comic was written, it really meant a lot to see this. Ozymandias can't see the micro level of good in the world. He never really wanted to improve the good, in reality, he just wanted to destroy the bad.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

that's a nice interesting view, didn't realize THAT was what that relationship met in the story, always wondered about that.

[@caseyroberts1171]

The aftermath scene in the graphic novel is a prime example of why "The Watchmen" was so difficult to translate to the screen. There are soooooo many little details that are important, like the old man and young boy. Another one that stands out is the lesbian could that were constantly arguing throughout the book. In the aftermath, you find their bodies in the rubble, hand in hand as they met death. Even as disfunctional as they were in life, in their final moments they sought each other out and greeted death together. Love, in its final moment, demonstrated that their love was stronger than their disagreements.

[@whitedragoness23]

Interesting, but I think Ozymandias would still see that good as being too small and trivial to make much an impact. And on the whole level people were largely evil and he rather see the evil side like that one guy from the squid games because it’s easier to see the bad than the goodness to justify actions

[@whitedragoness23]

@@Gadget-Walkmen I didn’t realize that myself, I thought it was to get the viewers used to who were some of the people who were going to die. Both black and white died by what Ozymandias saw as a equal death and it wasn’t targeted certain groups he just didn’t trust all of humanity at all as a whole.

[@wayneigoe6722]

Hey! Nice to see a fellow crew member of the Normandy!

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Look, I'm not going to say Ozymandias was right, even if he was well-intentioned - he murdered countless innocent people, nothing can justify that. The key thing about his character, though, is that he _believes_ he was right - even when faced with more constructive solutions, when confronted by his own friends, Ozymandias' own ego prevents him from acknowledging viewpoints other than his own. When Rorschach says he'll never compromise, it's not just a refutation of Ozymandias' plan - it's a reflection, as both men are utterly unwilling to admit they're wrong or dissent to differing views, no matter what the consequences may be. Such is one of the key themes of Watchmen - there are no heroes or villains, just people, with all their many strengths and flaws.

[@mediocreMorpheus7795]

Hitting the nail on the head.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@Ozymandias The Misanthrope Wow I can’t believe the actual Ozymandias from Alan Moore’s Watchmen replied to my comment, it’s an honor sir

[@timcontreras]

They dropped the bomb because they knew that Japan was training non combat personnel and no military personnel to train in gorilla warfare. Japan was gonna drag it out. The fact that it took 2 atomic bombs should tell you that. Surrender wasn’t gonna be a option if those bombs wert dropped

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@Ozymandias The Misanthrope I know, I was just kidding. Cool that that's your actual name, though. And yeah, I try to run this account without judging people based on trivial stuff like their opinions on comic book characters - there's too much hate on this site as is, I'm just doing my part to create a non-hostile atmosphere. Glad to have a good conversation, yeah.

[@nitrogenbubbles4555]

@Ozymandias The Misanthrope tyrants and cowards come from both the left and the right. Both argue with a false pretense of offering true freedom to those of us with no real power.

[@billlupin8345]

Iirc, his plans didn’t include the comedian. Apparently the Comedian fully discovered his plan, realized it would work, had a breakdown, and committed suicide by confessing to Moloch, who he knew Veidt had bugged. Hiring an assassin to target himself was just his response to the hero hunter investigation.

[@Taospark]

That's a sick joke befitting the man and the monster.

[@alexarkoette564]

Yeah. I actually don’t agree with a lot of the ways he handled this character. Adrian wasn’t the Joker in the dark night relying entirely upon the actions of others for his plan. He relied upon the action of only one person to succeed, Dr. Manhattan, but he was easy to predict since he quite literally worked like clock work. Everything else he planned by only relying upon himself and the people he hired while attempting to kill as few people as possible to achieve his plan.

[@qtcash3498]

I'm pretty sure he was excited to beat Eddie's ass after getting embarrassed at Metropolis' meeting

[@abyss9316]

Did you know? David Hayter the voice of Solid Snake He co-wrote the screenplay of the Watchmen what an absolutely fantastic job I never knew till years later

[@RichieMyers12]

I love Hayter and enjoy the movie but it is almost shot for shot from the graphic novel. Not hating on anyone (especially not Snake) but always felt the film would have done well not trying to copy scene for scene dialogue and shots.

[@blackmambo8702]

@@RichieMyers12 I actually like that they dod that tbh. It's almost like a remaster. Its hit different seeing them move around.

[@sunsetman22]

@@RichieMyers12 I think we really take for granted the sheer amount of effort that it takes to translate a graphic novel to the big screen so faithfully

[@jorgevazquez1197]

So he’s to blame for that train wreck

[@abyss9316]

@@jorgevazquez1197 ouch

[@erikconfirmed1865]

15:50 also I think its necessary to add that in the world of Watchmen the US have won the Vietnam War with the help of super heroes which (adding to the 3 term Nixon presidency) likely increased tensions even more to an extreme

[@nani1940]

This I think is important. It really didn't seem like diplomacy was an option because of this.

[@AKFechtschule]

The setting established that the Warsaw Pact nations had drastically upscaled their nuclear arms production out of fear of Dr. Manhattan, and were more likely to use them as a result. Obviously, this was not an issue in our own world, hence why Ozymandias felt the threat of nuclear annihilation was a certainty if he did not act.

[@joshuaortiz2031]

Adrian Veidt is a hero for his actions. If killing millions saves billions its a necessary evil. Its pure utilitarian ideology in action.

[@xroyta4975]

But a compromise could have been made, if Ozymandias could have convinced Dr. Manhattan to leave Earth. Therefore Dr. Manhattan wouldn't be around to continue the escalation of conflict.

[@cflpinebox1072]

Lmaoooo

[@digitaldevil696]

It's not that Ozymandias shouldn't have act. On the contrary, with his vast possibilities, he should've, in my opinion, stepped up and tried to find the solution. With all the power he wields, it would be irresponsible to just sit and watch. However, the problem is with which course of action he took. He didn't exhaust all the possible options before doing what he did. Instead, he acted on emotions of fear and desire to be the Saviour, which he himself failed to recognize.

[@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor]

@@digitaldevil696 he....did though. He literally says he's tried to find other solutions but none of them would work

[@calimanduff]

Whoa just realized why Adrien has the visual of Alexander cutting the Gordian knot. Instead of trying to untangle the complexities of the Cold War he decided to just cut through all of it in one violent action. Alexander “solving” the Gordian knot is a great story of someone doing something destructive just so that no one else can say they did what he had tried to do. The point of untying the Gordian knot was to have the rope to lead the ox, but Alexander destroys it. The point of ending the Cold War was to save lives, but Ozymandias kills millions just so no one else can claim to have “ended the Cold War”.

[@cookieanddabutt2843]

That's not the meaning of that story. Never heard of it before. Thanks for making me look it up. You'd have hundreds of dollars from mindless "likers". Art always reflects the worse of us. The willfully challanged and happily blind.

[@jessyhart6638]

​@@cookieanddabutt2843 You used many words to say nothing.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

​@@cookieanddabutt2843 that's a nice pseudo-intellectual word salad, but you didn't say a damn thing.

[@Drawnartist]

What a great villain. The best bad guys are the ones that make you question whether they are right in the end or wrong.

[@Drawnartist]

@pyropulse oh sorry my bad I guess this KZbinr who is obviously very intelligent and all of us who watch and liked this video are just too stupid to compare to your greatness. Because even the other heros in the story themselves agreed with the plan in the end genius Edit: the bottom line is I never said I think what he did was right. He's just more intersing to me than a mustache twirling villian who is simply evil to be evil 😈

[@albertkurz913]

@pyropulse the real point in villans are to question your own belives and thinks you trust in. They show you the other side and how it had to play out.

[@S.D.323]

true but I also like a lot of purely evil villains ie joker frank underwood griffith light yagami (no he is NOT an anti villain) etc

[@filipvadas7602]

The scene that really summarizes everything you need to know about Ozymandias, in my opinion, is right after he succeeds (10:40) His arms up in the air in victory, with a depiction of Alexander the Great cutting the Gordian knot in the background A walking talking metaphor of an ambitious man solving a complicated issue with sheer brute force

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

... and failed.

[@joshuaortiz2031]

@@ptolemeeselenion1542 how? He succeeded i every step of the way

[@schnoz2372]

@@joshuaortiz2031 he didn’t solve the problem he is the problem

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

@@joshuaortiz2031 For later having his plan crumble gradually once he achieved his brutal victory. This is the entire point about the double irony that underlies the existential wrestling between Ozymandias and Dr. Manhattan. While the godlike superman who boasted about having walked onto the Sun couldn't predict what Ozymandias has in pocket, the latter failed to realize he commited the exact same error than Alexander rather than truly emulating the spirit of Ramesses II.

[@MrOctober44]

I don't think the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Always hated that saying

[@reecewarrenmarshall3760]

Nite owl-“Killing millions...” Ozymandias-“To save billions”

[@michaelkelley2727]

"a necessary crime"

[@ryanwarner5006]

​@@michaelkelley2727except it wasn't necessary. We are still here.

[@Dimmary]

​@@ryanwarner5006 For now

[@Stondbaloni]

@@ryanwarner5006lol not for long

[@thisguy9733]

​@@Stondbalonisure

[@Darth.Vermilius]

If a villain makes you wonder whether they could be right judging them by their motives, then Ozymandias is definitely one of the 10-20 best villains of all time. After all, Watchmen is one of the all-time best comics [and my personal favourite].

[@ADMG]

Just wondering, which are the other villains of your top?

[@kyleparrish2026]

A type of evil we see all too often. A solution looking for a problem, with no faith in people to solve their own problems. Real world solipsism taken to the extreme. And as with real life analogs, for Ozymandias it all amounts to little more than an unconscious vanity project.

[@CAMSLAYER13]

I don't think it's fair to say that there was no problem. It is mentioned that dr. Manhattan is shifting the balance of power and causing the cold war to spiral out of control

[@kyleparrish2026]

@@CAMSLAYER13 There's certainly truth to that. I think where Ozymandias went from help to harm was when he cut human agency out of the loop. He began with good intentions, but his ego polluted the outcome.

[@adamkadir3803]

To be perfectly honest, I have no faith in people to solve their own problems. If they did right thing when it was hard, the world wouldn't be as fucked as it is now.

[@joshuaortiz2031]

nah its fucking stupid to trust people to solve their own problems. Look at the state of the world. At this point the only hope is pressing the reset button. A limited strategic nuclear exchange that decapitates the major governments of the world and kills off large swaths of the greedy, disgusting, shallow urban hordes would probably do the job and restore balance.

[@danialyousaf6456]

@@adamkadir3803 that's only because people are easy to manipulate. If everyone was just a bit smarter and didn't listen to any of the shit the media or politicians pump out we'd be living in a much better world.

[@aguy2162]

One of my absolute favorite villains. Love his account of retracing Alexander's path

[@eddieguerrerofantasy]

A very complex character who we will never stop to analyze the character and his actions, the duality of ozimandias is fascinating and one of the best character in watchmen, not to mention that is considered one of the best villain of all time

[@guilledcf1547]

the genius of (the original) watchmen is that Ozzy's dilemma mirrors the main theme of the whole novel perfectly: that of the superhero/vigilante, the "who watches the watchmen" thing, and how legit is it to break the rules to enforce the rules -- or, in Adrian's rather extreme case, to provoke global onslaught to avoid global onslaught.

[@TH3F4LC0Nx]

"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

Rorschach did comprise a lot though. He didn’t live by his own beliefs. He only stuck to his principles when absolute evil occurred.

[@levikazama2323]

i find this the stupidiest thing ever. Not all things need to be known if you reveal something and it kills billions then those deaths are on your hand. Sometimes its best to keep things secret to protect the world. He refused to see in gray and only saw black and white.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@levikazama2323 That's your opinion if you see it like that but the whole point was to give out how RORSCHACH saw things, that's his ideology.

[@tutumazibuko2510]

@@Gadget-Walkmen it's also Ozys ideology and look how that turned out.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@tutumazibuko2510 That’s not how Ozy saw things at all, his convictions could change but the things I’d that Ozy couldn’t change in THIS specific plan of his due to how important it was to mankind in his view. Roarsch never changes tho no matter what!

[@BountyHunter-ep8jk]

“I'm not a comic book villain. Do you seriously think I would explain my master stroke to you if there were even the slightest possibility you could affect the outcome?” One of my favorite lines ever.

[@sethwick8348]

He actually says "Republic serial" villain, because in the world of Watchmen comic books don't have super heroes and super villains, as they are real things, and instead the most popular comics are about pirates and other historical adventure stories.

[@paulgibbon5991]

And he says that while standing in his secret Antarctic lair, complete with super-science weapons and a genetically engineered pet, while dressed in a flashy costume.

[@lilkingg82]

Now THIS is a great choice for a villian. I'm intrigued to see your analysis on, say Shredder? The Merovingian, perhaps even the Architect. Thrawn or Tarkin(if you havent done that yet) would be realllllly good. Arishem would be interesting too

[@grimmettcleaningservices7003]

I agree with all your suggestions, especially the way this guy breaks down the characters. I’ve been subscribed for a few months now, this is a fascinating channel.

[@lilkingg82]

@@grimmettcleaningservices7003 This is quite the gem of a channel, I must say

[@Notsussybaka900]

Thrawn is quite similar to Veidt.

[@lilkingg82]

@@Notsussybaka900 On an extremely surface level look at the two, yes they are similar. But in the way Vader would be similar to maybe movie Thanos

[@jasonchen9645]

That fight scene in the beginning with the comedian was epic!, the way it was filmed. I don't know how the actor didn't get more roles after that! I freaking love that movie!

[@jaha9329]

I love how Ozimandias plan in original Watchmen is straight-forward but complex on the moral ground and summary of his plan in HBO series and Doomsday Clock sounds like insane gibberish.

[@quinnholloway5400]

He ends up sounding as mad as Rorschach sounded to others Funny isn't it?

[@osmanyousif7849]

I hated what the creators did to Adrian in the HBO series. Nothing against Jeremy Irons, who does what he can with the role, but considering reading the novel and seeing who Adrian was like in the show, I literally screamed, "WHO THE F**K IS THIS GUY?". Irons portrays the character very much in an expressive-animated way, when in the novel, Adrian was reserved and somber. And then comes Episode 5 of the series where we see the tape Adrian made explaining his involvement in the Squid Attack and acts very cocky and delighted in the fact that he murdered 3 Million innocent civilians. And it was at that point that I almost wanted to give up on the show, because the Adrian we see at the manor house ain't a man driven to madness after over 3 decades of solitude and his masterstroke failing to bring about the Utopia he dreamed of, but simply a choice from the creator to make him like this. And sure you'd probably say, "But of course, Adrian would have this attitude as he's a raging narcissist.", and to that I say, "Well yes, BUT ALSO NO.". Because while Adrian is a narcissist, his narcissism is more nuanced than how narcissism is portrayed in media. Because in the novel, Adrian displays characteristics that seem to contradict this profile. The man gave away his family fortune, his crime-fighting led to good in the world, and created a company to help make the world a better place. He was a philanthropist, pacifist (WAS, FYI...), and didn't do anything he was doing for financial gain. But he was however, self-absorbed and took pride in his on vanity. So while he was a narcissist, he wasn't raging with hedonism and step on those who he saw to dare take what was his, but more of the fact that he had a messiah complex that convinced himself that ONLY HE can save the world. And that was the whole theme of the original novel. Of how a person may truly and sincerely be benevolent, and help the world become a better place, there's a deeper, self-serving motivation, whether the person is conscious of it or not, to their "heroism". Therefore I find the way the creators portrayed Adrian's expression of narcissism in the show absurdly off-base. And this interpretation of his character is later amplified in episodes 8 - 9. As the show makes it seem like Adrian is in despair, not because his plan didn't lead to the Utopia he dreamed of, but that the people of the world don't know that he was the one who saved them from nuclear destruction. Adrian probably would care that much if the people of Earth knew that it was him who orchestrated the Squid Attack. But Adrian in the novel goes to great lengths to ensure that nobody would find out. Sure he tells Rorschach, Dan, and Laurie, but the three are already fugitives at that point, therefore they probably should keep their mouths shut, and Dr Manhattan would just simply not be bothered to say anything. So yeah, the creators of the show didn't understand Adrian and how complex he was and just saw him to be this cartoonish villain who has raging narcissistic qualities, let alone caring about the nuances of Adrian's character.

[@professr9343]

@@osmanyousif7849bruh nobody’s reading your whole rant about fictional characters . Let your ass sit alone for 30 years and see how your personality changes . This man is a human not a robot a very nutty human at that

[@SouthDakotaFacts]

My problem with Ozy is that there would have been so many better ways to save the world. Disarm missiles, build massive force fields, negation. Ozymandius seeks the drama, hence his constant admiration of Alexander. He needs to do something crazy. He let that get in the way of saving the world

[@InitialPC]

thats actually touched upon in the movie, even if dr manhattan stops 99% of incoming missiles, the remaining 1% can still cause tens of millions of deaths because of just how many missiles that will be launched

[@ADMG]

Yes and no. You are right about his ego and feeling superior than the rest of the world but it's also mentioned by the Comedian, they have to protect the people from themselves. In other words, even if those measures you say were taken, humans would've found more ways to kill each other.

[@mauricioangulos.2830]

Actually no. Ozymandias has a super intellect and has evaluated and pondered all the possible viable solutions and its outcomes. The fact that he chose such a drastic option shows how bad things where in his world.

[@occultnightingale1106]

The problem with disarming missiles, building force fields, or creating ever-more-powerful deterrents is that it does not strike at the core problem: humanity's desire to kill each other. People are flawed, a warring species by nature, and even if you take away the tools, the desire remains, and death inevitably follows. Only by convincing the world of a greater threat against which single combat is impossible would the desire for war be turned outward. Ozymandias knew that, and believed that his new world would have been better than give humanity the chance to take their war to its logical conclusion. He did not believe people as a whole were good enough to avoid annihilation, just as Rorschach didn't believe people as a whole were worth saving.

[@thugkermit9999]

That’s the great thing about the og watchmen and something the shows and spin-off just can’t recreate It’s the grey of it all The fact that we can debate if killing 3 million was a necessary thing or not speaks to the brilliance of the comic The hbo show and doomsday simply just make ozymandias a generic bad guy when it has been shown that he is a complex villain that make us question our position

[@alejandrogonzalez00]

For me personally I don’t think Ozmandias came across as a generic antagonist in the HBO series and in Doomsday Clock in the series he felt more like a depressed, lonely, and bored guy in it and in Doomsday Clock he felt more…. desperate and extremely manipulative that’s what I would use to describe his character. But hey that’s just what I thought of him in both those series. I do definitely agree with all what you say about the book overall

[@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor]

I love the HBO show but they fucking RUINED ozymandias. The last episode is one of the worst things I've ever watched

[@samcalven12]

@@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor I have to respectfully disagree with you on the last episode

[@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor]

@@samcalven12 don't care, you're wrong

[@judohunter1]

The show and doomsday didn’t make him a generic villain. If anything it shows the natural progression of a narcissist that doesn’t get that they wanted despite their power. It’s a crack down of their personal image of who they are.

[@NK-22]

Id love for you to do Handsome Jack, I think he's a very complex villian who has good points but wrong executions.

[@SavageShrike]

Please!

[@aphylorne3021]

Ozymandias and the MCU's version of Thanos are very similar to each other. Both had good intentions and were willing to sacrifice countless lives to reach their goals. The difference is Ozymandias actually won in the end.

[@joeparrigen4982]

So did Thanos. Until it was undone

[@stefandinus7701]

"any man, woman, or child in the name of peace" That's right. I just compared peacemaker to these two

[@bonerbreath6747]

@@joeparrigen4982 via a time travel plot device that was and still is an absolute asspull

[@Notsussybaka900]

The Comedian was based of Peacemaker. And according to most EU sources, and even his own name, Veidt’s plan was reversed just like Thanos’.

[@thephoenix4093]

thanos didn't have good intentions. he just wanted to prove himself right.

[@YDTK2478]

Please do The Comedian soon, he's a fascinating and vile character in himself

[@Thespeedrap]

All the characters in that movie were evil including Dr.Manhattan and Rorschach.

[@mistletoe3343]

what about Niteowl, I wouldn't call him evil.

[@Thespeedrap]

@@mistletoe3343 He wasn't evil he was just Batman without the wealth and fame.

[@Thespeedrap]

@@PortlandSucksss I didn't say all the characters I was addressing the main ones that had it with the world's problem.

[@Thespeedrap]

@Anti SJW He was a vigilante he used murder to get his point across and that was wrong.They say 2 wrongs don't make a right.

[@Aquamayne100]

This Channel is the best! Great villain pick and ethical conundrum!

[@mikewilson858]

I actually liked how the movie portrayed Adrian’s plan. It makes sense that the works would unite in fear of Dr. Manhattan.

[@Solitaire001]

I agree. Unlike the squid, Dr. Manhattan was a known quantity and people knew how dangerous he could be if he he became a threat. One of the things I liked about "Doomsday Clock" is that showed just how powerful Dr. Manhattan actually is. Despite the assembled power of the heroes going against him they couldn't do anything against him.

[@dreadkalibur1613]

I believe there's one quote that best sums him up. "The Path to Hell is paved by good intentions."

[@alexanderwinn9407]

Just like Thanos, Ozzy's status as hero or villain relies on one thing: do you believe his plan will actually work long-term? They're both so charismatic that they can sell you on it, but if you really think about it, both plans break down very quickly.

[@fool8304]

I think ruling Ozymandias to be evil or otherwise by weighing the sacrifices he makes against the people he saves is the wrong way to go about it. Quantifying body counts is a decent way of comparing the evil of to people who are already considered to be as such, but many causalities have occurred from Superman's negligence no doubt, or the weapons Tony Stark sold before he became Iron Man. This doesn't call into question the heroic goodness of their characters, because they clearly value those people, out of sympathy for their individual lives, and exhibit remorse. So just as someone who causes harm isn't necessarily evil, someone who causes virtue isn't always virtuous. Ozymandias sees world peace less like a humanitarian necessity, and more like a means of confirming his existence to himself, the greatest dignity any person could attain, and one that he's entitled to. He understands that his powers come with a great responsibility, but believes that _he_ is the only person that he's responsible for. Everything he does is for a self-imposed life purpose. And having a life purpose, even a selfish one, isn't an evil thing, but that does not make it a rationality for deliberate mass murder. That's not the sort of thing a good person can so confidently justify.

[@alexarkoette564]

I agree. He wasn’t utilitarian by nature or anything he just wanted to save the world and manufactured a way to do it. He was excited by chaos cause it meant he could bring order. In the original run I think it’s fair to question if he’s really the Smartest Man in the World because the only person we have to base that on is himself. Otherwise he didn’t genetically alter the squid or make teleportation the companies he made did. He may just be an average man, but very lucky who convinced himself the world was on his shoulders.

[@nicokrasnow1851]

Amazing video. This analysis on Ozimandias makes me recall what I thought about Taravangian from the Stormlight Archive.

[@erkicman]

I remember reading in the forwards of one of his books that Alan Moore had no expectation that the Cold War was going to de-escalate as peacefully as it did. To him, humanity was so mad that maybe monstrous ideas were the only things that had a shot at stopping humanity’s total annihilation

[@mattwoodard2535]

He's more like the character he created, Ozymandias, than he realized. sm

[@OlinCaprison]

One thing I love about moores depiction is although Adrian is a narcissist moore doesn’t depict him as such. He shows Adrian from Adrians perspective which I think is one of the biggest reasons people love debating about this character

[@Rinksiderips]

Analyzing Evil: Mr. Blonde from Reservoir Dogs

[@ck891]

Yessssss!!! Been waiting for this one. Thanks so much V.E

[@huntermcbucket8351]

I think an amazing villain that vile should do is Carl Denim from both the original and Peter Jackson’s King Kong, such a vile man and one who will sacrifice anyone to get what he wants

[@nickasaro8789]

Good choice. Very underrated pick. Was just watching the Jackson Kong a couple of days ago and was thinking about recommending Denim for an episode. His sleaziness knows no bounds.

[@BensonCaisip]

"]I'm not a comic book villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my masterstroke to you if there were even the slightest possibility that you could affect the outcome?" ---Ozymandias

[@andrewemerson7861]

Loved the vid, can next be Light Yagami from Death Note?

[@lisboah]

Ironically, while Light didn't kill as many people as Ozymandias, in my opinion at least, he's far worse as an individual.

[@kvdrr]

I really appreciate that you meticulously go over every single relevant piece of media related to the villain being examined. And that you always start your first sentence in lip-sync with the villian :D

[@hildaenjoyer8862]

The greatest comic book villain ever, and by quite some distance. Not many villains are able to convey their beliefs in such a compelling way and to the extent that the ‘heroes’ feel they have to let him go because taking his victory away from him would make the world a worse place, despite him essentially murdering millions in cold blood. His ideology is actually driven be a sense of righteousness and is molded by his environment, where human life is seen as cheap and he believes humanity is doomed to apocalypse if left to its own devices. He is a total piece of shit morally, but he’s acting rational within the framework world leaders operate in. His actions aren’t that different to the atomic bombings of Japan, 100,000s killed to save millions. Fantastic character and not one we’ll ever see in stuff like the MCU.

[@ajiththomas2465]

The difference though is that the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't the reasons why Imperial Japan surrendered. The monarchy and nobility of Imperial Japan didn't give a single iota of a shit about the people lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the vast majority of them were poor people and peasants, who the Imperial Japan monarchy saw as unimportant as ants. They would've gladly sacrificed millions of Japanese peasants into the meat grinder if it would allow Imperial Japan a victory. That is how canyon wide the socioeconomic gap between the leaders of Japan and the people of Japan were. The real reason that Imperial Japan surrendered was because of their losing naval battles against Soviet Russia. When their naval loss to Soviet Russia was inevitable, that's when Imperial Japan threw in the towel. Imperial Japan simply used the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the quote "official" reason why they surrendered rather than their naval loss to Russia because they could at least portray themselves as a victim with the former. Had America not dropped the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but instead simply helped Russia crush the Imperial Japanese forces over air and sea, then Imperial Japan would've surrendered all the same.

[@94462]

You literally described Thanos to a T from the MCU

[@tylerd80495]

@@94462 Right, but that version of Thanos was created in the last 10 years. Original Thanos was just in love with Death and wanted to show his love by killing half the universe.

[@PlaNkie1993]

Well said sir

[@Teddy-kv1bf]

A fellow fe player 👏🏿👀

[@animesempai0]

I know this is probably unpopular opinion, but Ozymandias did what was necessary because humans in that world was never going to put aside their differences and unite and sometimes you have to save humanity from itself. Ozymandias is one of my favorite villains ever BTW. Also for a suggestion, if you do watch anime or manga, I would love for you to do a video on Aizen from bleach. That would be a incredible analyzing evil video.

[@petermj1098]

lol That's delusional. There is never an era of peace in history- especially in Alexander the Great's era. Governments will always fight some other group for something- it doesn't matter if the reason makes total sense or not. That's the military-industrial complex

[@owenrivers3348]

I literally was just thinking about him yesterday.

[@ozymandias3097]

I was thinking of you as well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@LordBaktor]

90% of the time, when someone invokes "The Greater Good" to justify their actions, they are doing something evil.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

The greater good

[@bastadimasta]

Except for real genius

[@thepeatboggy]

Its certainly a theme in the west , but it also makes me wonder, is “the greater good” seen as a legitimate justification in communist/socialist societies?

[@LordBaktor]

@@thepeatboggy As far as I know, that's what Communism is all about. The revolution of the proletariat, seizing the means of production, redistributing wealth and all that are done "for the greater good".

[@iinc6290]

@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 the greater good

[@DutchGotAPlan]

Finally, he made it! Great video!

[@zeo4481]

Best villains are always the ones that are right in their beliefs but wrong in their methods!

[@gp-1542]

Weather or not ozymandias was “right” He killed innocent people regardless if the “ends justifies the means” There’s nothing more dangerous than a villain that believes his own righteousness

[@osmanyousif7849]

But Ozy isn't evil for the sake of being evil, as he genuinely tried to help saved the world. But seeing that all his efforts meant nothing, and the countries wanted blood in order to get peace, he decide that if killing the population was the only way, so be it. But even after this, he still questions if he did the right thing, because he does hold regret for it. He's not a mad-man who doesn't care. But a man who was placed in the trolley and had to make a choice between 1 life or 100 lives. So he pulled the switch and look what it got him.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

He’s an anti-villain at most but definitely villainous due to him killing numerous innocent people.

[@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970]

​@@osmanyousif7849 Evey villain is the hero in their own story.

[@ДьулусСтручков-крутой]

He hero. He is right. Your pedo country no right.

[@spencerdurette2859]

@@osmanyousif7849 The only thing I argue is that while he's regretful of many things, the issue is we only can take what he says at face value. A reminder he manipulated Rorschach II by lying to him from the get-go in order to get him as an ally, so who's to say if he was genuine in his moments where he admits that he's remorseful since, at least from what I recall, his "regret" was used to manipulate Rorschach II

[@Reyma777]

Great video as always. I would like to suggests the following villains for analysis: 1. Frank Underwood/Francis Urquhart (House of Cards) 2. Light Yagami (Deathnote) 3. Petyr Baelish (A Song of Ice and Fire) 4. Frank Gallagher ( Shameless US) 5. Marty & Wendy Bryde (Ozark)

[@jackalope2302]

interesting choices. Especially Light and Mr. Gallagher

[@Reyma777]

@@jackalope2302 Frank Gallagher is a narcissistic, alcoholic, hedonists, who is self-serving. Throughout the series he is basically a disease that manipulates, corrupts, exploits and destroys whenever possible.

[@kennandunn7533]

I'm not sure I'd call Frank "evil" exactly, rather just a selfish asshole.

[@kringslayerkai3044]

Hello, and welcome to todays episode of analyzing evil. Featuring: The Vile Eye from youtube.

[@artman2oo3]

On the Japan analogy: would they have eventually surrendered had we not dropped the a-bombs? Maybe. Eventually. But consider this: after the first bomb, which wrought unprecedented death and destruction in a single event that Japan - or the entire world - had ever seen, they still didn’t surrender. Even after *that* . It took two of those bombs to force them to surrender. This proves that it literally took more than an atomic bomb to get them to surrender. So what does that say about any other available method? Nuclear and atomic warfare are horrible and I hope the Earth never sees that again. Those events were horrible. I wish they hadn’t happened. I wish all those people hadn’t died. But it does make you question how many thousands or millions more would have died had those bombs not been dropped. Anyway, I liked this video, very thought-provoking.

[@junko4166]

They didn't surrender because they had no idea the first blast even happened until shortly before the second one came. Hiroshima got completely destroyed with a single blast, a level of destruction never before seen, leaving no way for the survivors to communicate with central command. I do believe the nukes were necessary. Pre-nuke Japan was capable of evils that would make the SS high command blush. It's a shame the americans didn't obliterate a military target instead of 2 civilian centers though.

[@noahbeaty3]

@@junko4166 they were military targets, they produced military goods. Civilians were given pamphlets via airdrop to evacuate from the US.

[@comradesam3382]

Not so fun fact, Japan only surrendered because they didnt know how many more of those they had, they taught that US had hundreds of those and were in the proces of debating surrender when they found out about the second bomb, whitch solidified

[@willbeatsrock]

Even after the second bomb was dropped there was a planned coup of the emperor to avert the shame of surrendering. Many high ranking officials and even the Japanese people would have rather died than surrender. It would have been a very long and bloody path had they chose not to drop those bombs, make no mistake.

[@houseoftoussaint9609]

Bullshit I say. The blockade was working. Nothing was reaching the island of Japan. The air space was entirely in American control. The skies were completely free of resistance so that bombings and firebombs went on uninterrupted. You tell me how an enemy with no means to fight, no means of sustenance for their army let alone their people, and constant air raids on military and civilian targets are going to pose a threat to an invasion of Japan, if an invasion were even necessary. Even US military leaders disagreed with the usage of the nuclear weapons. They weren’t necessary. People have been selling this for decades and when I heard it, I could smell the bullshit as a teenager. It was a political move. That’s it. Americans can lie to themselves all day everyday. Nuclear proliferation. Non state organizations and terrorists getting their hands on nuclear weapons. What a world we are living in today. Worth it? Hah. Should have kept that fucking genie in the lamp.

[@davideduardogonzalezbermud3864]

Analyzing Evil: Dio Brando from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure

[@scroticlese]

This video made me realise you should totally do Homelander from the boys

[@damianstarks3338]

This guy beyond deserves to be on this list.

[@ICameHereToComplain]

Japan would have never surrendered no matter how many countries joined the war. Both the Emperor and General of the Imperial Army, Tojo, were completely consumed by racial superiority and assurance that a vast majority of the Japanese people would fight just as ferociously as the military if an allied army landed on their shores. While their navy was eliminated, japan knew what every other allied nation already knew; a land invasion would lead to tens of millions of deaths. What with the Imperial Army being infamously known for their unequaled cruelty and vileness towards civilians and their own soldiers, the upper command was more than ready to throw waves of bodies into battle. The atomic bombs were not a battle, they weren't a nighttime low-flying air raid: they were the evaporation of 2 major cities in the blink of an eye. Tojo said in his own diary that the two bombs did not deter the Imperial Army, he rather gave that credit to the submarine blockade preventing all importation and reinforcements. But he noted that the destruction of these cities had a profound effect on the Emperor, who had obviously never fathomed a weapon like this could exist. It was the one and only thing up until that point that actually shook the confidence in the higher ups, and pressure from the aristocracy not familiar with military strategy forced their capitulation and eventual surrender. I'm not saying that the "what if" discussion isn't worth having, in fact I find it a productive discourse that could reflect on how we view future actions. I'm just tired of the narrative that the US acted rashly too hastily by dropping those bombs on those cities. They knew what the stakes were, and knew they would be condemned for it. And in my opinion that is the greatest example of Utilitarianism that we could ask for, and in turn it is in fact our job to both understand the necessity and condemn the act.

[@keith6706]

It should also be noted that even after the bombings and it was clear surrender was coming, there was still an attempted coup by military officers who wanted to continue fighting. Operation Olympic, the invasion of Japan, was foreseen to be such a bloodbath that the US was still issuing Purple Hearts seventy years later out of the massive amount they'd ordered made in anticipation of the projected casualties. Additionally, the Japanese still occupied territory outside of Japan, and given their behaviour toward occupied populations, the amount of suffering would have affected millions more than just Japan had the war been allowed to continue.

[@grinningchicken]

They actually already had surrendered. The negotiations were already well underway. The nukes gave them a great excuse for losing to explain to their own people. They could claim that they had the Americans right where they wanted them but then the US cheated and brought in a super weapon and for the greater good they surrendered. All BS they knew they had lost months before and were just looking for a way out.

[@keith6706]

@@grinningchicken If negotiations were underway, they hadn't surrendered by definition.

[@JuanMartinez-tx5bh]

you should do one on johan liebert

[@theambianceman4728]

Thanks for making this, I had requested it in some of your previous videos and was so happy that you finally made it, as always well composed video. I personally view what ozymandias did as an evil act that stemmed from "good" motivations. Although ozymandias's ego played a large role in his decision, he truly believed that what he was doing was the right thing to do unlike other villains who commit evil acts for money or power. Despite this there is no way to defend mass murder but only to reason out the motivations behind it. Ozymandias has always been one of my favorite villains (although I only truly see the movie and og comic version to the the true versions) and the fact that people are still talking about this all these years later shows how well written he was.

[@sirwafflesxx8218]

Analysing Evil: Eric Cartman from South Park.

[@andrewlol9095]

He didn’t have a superiority complex. He was superior.

[@shadejakva9367]

I remember this villain, Ozymandias is a well-written, classic depiction of a villain who fully believes the ends justify the means, and he's willing to kill countless people to do it in a truly horrific manner to make that point. Lessee... ones I'd like to see... -Ultimate Despair from Danganronpa(spoilers on their identity) -Dr. Raymond Cocteau and Simon Phoenix from Demolition Man -Dr. Robotnik (film version)

[@kingofcrap4414]

I would love to see him cover AOSTH Robotnik as an April Fool's joke.

[@rhettoric5796]

Yes! So glad you're covering this character!

[@markp9366]

We need a analyzing evil on mr glass

[@alejandrogonzalez00]

Thank you so much for this video Ozymandias has always been a very interesting and complex character that I can’t help but like

[@TDenterpriser]

For the final season of better call Saul analyze chuck McGill

[@MrMaxman93]

I haven't visited your channel for about 6 months now and when I come back I see even more followers, and more amazing content! Im happy to see your success. I have learned a lot from your channel! Not to mention, its entertaining as hell!

[@deomartinez77]

This channel rules!!! What a great pick. I am still waiting on *Lex Luthor from Smallville, Thulsa Doom from Conan the Barbarian, Zeke and Eren Yeager from Attack on Titan, Sauron from Lord of the Rings and Magneto from X-men*

[@EllisHCN]

Another fantastic video, thank you very much for all of the time and effort you pour into these, Vile!!

[@Dayonetheone]

He has always been my favorite Anti-hero. I never saw him as a Anti-Villain. I always thought that his vision was to look at the bigger picture. Where as everyone else reacted and acted off emotions. I'm not saying I agree with his acts all together but I completely understood what he was trying to accomplish and some ways was successful but wish he could've thought of a different path. But I love his brilliance & compassion.

[@kilssj2250]

Nice use of the Aria da Capo. Everytime I hear it I feel so nostalgic and soothed. It's a nice tune and reminds me of Hannibal ^_^.

[@thepawchoe2749]

It's about time we got this guy.

[@chriswoodard9904]

I love how thorough you are with the characters that you do like every one of the episodes I watch I mean my God you are so with the research the in-depth character development I mean it's insane like you have to have a PhD in like psychology or something either way incredible work keep up the awesome videos and I look forward to watching more in the future

[@huldrrrr9486]

This was a beautiful analysis of a fascinating character, great job as usual! For further consideration: Angel Eyes from The Good The Bad and The Ugly, Indio from For a A Few Dollars More and Jack Meriddew from Lord of the Flies

[@leomilmet854]

Jack Merridew is especially interesting! However, I’d like to add two more to the list from some of those very works: Tuco, from the Good The Bad and The Ugly And Roger from Lord of the Flies From what I recall, Roger makes Jack look like a sweetheart by the end of that extremely disturbing novel.

[@huldrrrr9486]

@@leomilmet854 Somehow I could never really see Tuco as evil, he is more of a anti-villain or anti-hero in my eyes, but he could be an interesting character to analyse either way! Yeah Roger is a really interesting counterpart to Jack. If Jack represents the Stalins of the world, Roger represents the Ted Bundys. Lord of the Flies and the Inner Darkness of Man as a whole could just get its own video really haha!

[@SirToaster9330]

I love how the music in each video fits with each villain

[@evildead0.575]

Can you do an analyzing evil for homelander

[@futurewario9591]

And Titan or Tighten from MegaMind.

[@ToaArcan]

"Do it? Dan, I'm not a Republic Serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."

[@Malto77]

You should do Verbal Kent from The Usual Suspects

[@dravidiantommylinson3880]

Been waiting for this one.

[@TheCrimsonOrchestra]

Love your work. Would like to see your interpretation of the Villian(s) in the Count of Monte Cristo. There are four or five characters whose actions might be interesting to examine. Count Fernand Mondego - Best Friend & Jealous Betrayer Danglars - Conspiracy Architect Gerard de Villefort - Corrupt Magistrate Armand Dorleac - Prison Warden The main character, Edmund Dantes, could be considered evil as well due to the extreme measures he undertakes & the collateral damage he leaves on his quest to exact revenge upon those listed above.

[@jackofhearts6952]

One of my favorite books honestly I was totally with all his revenge till he made the dad of the women he liked go literally mad. But also he still deserves it and just because you have close relationships with others shouldn’t mean you can’t be punished.

[@ghostsofwargow2511]

I loved the movie, I’ve rewatched it a dozen times, never gets old.

[@vinsanity3510]

For me he’s not evil per se. Just detached and inherently selfish. In his experience, all he’s ever had was himself. Teachers didn’t trust him, kids attempted to bully him, as far as he’s concerned he’s something else. They treated Jesus the same way. So he forgives them for they know not what they do, but sacrifices “others” for their salvation. Changed my mind. He’s like a really crazy type of evil person.

[@tau-5794]

A good man would not sacrifice others for "their own good", he would sacrifice himself.

[@remo27]

@@tau-5794 Now if only you can tell me how he's supposed to 'sacrifice himself' and get world peace? It seems obvious he sacrificed his peace of mind to , as he put it, 'save humanity'. It's not like he's indifferent to the suffering he caused or the lives he ended.

[@tau-5794]

@remo27 It's him sacrificing innocents that is the problem. If Ozy was good and not just smart, he would try to find some way to achieve world peace without killing millions of people, even if it's not the most efficient way, he would still be doing the right thing even if he dies trying. It's easy to flick the lever to divert the trolley to the single person, it's much harder to try to stop it through any means necessary even at cost to your own self. The point of being a hero is saving people who cannot save themselves, not killing some to prevent the deaths of more.

[@Darkvega2k7]

I'm glad you added the events of Doomsday Clock to this. I loved that story arc.

[@Maxwell03]

Speaking of Jeremy Irons, you should do a video on Humbert Humbert from Lolita, the most chilling villain in literature and film.

[@SeasideDetective2]

I've never thought of Ozymandias as a true villain. It has been said that WATCHMEN contains no villains - just flawed heroes.

[@barbaryn7899]

I had so much hope for the HBO series... I don't know why I excepted it to be any different from every other show put out these days. Literally felt like a completely different story and they just said throw just a few minor things in there and we'll call it watchmen

[@dustygozangas8191]

"throw just a few minor things in there" You mean literally use the source material as a springboard to explore its themes and motifs in a modern context instead of just recreating the entire story again?

[@ravenwhiteduck6460]

Yeah hbo watchmen was not good

[@YourMomsNewHusband]

@@dustygozangas8191but they didn’t do that. They just made a “racism is bad” show in the watchmen universe

[@dustygozangas8191]

@@ravenwhiteduck6460 vast, disingenuous oversimplification but alright

[@xcarnage3936]

This man gave all the money he had inherited to charities, left himself with nothing, and still became rich on his own. Talk about a boss move.

[@kemisomolefhi5638]

The version from the series was scarier, Zack's version was cold but not overly sociopathic like the Jeremy Irons take on the character. I should really get to reading the books. I would still love a take on the Akatsuki and Itachi Uchiha from the Naruto manga and anime series. Loved this one.

[@facuuu2809]

I love how Irons characterized him as someone with such an ego that he doesn't care for others, it makes you far more scared and makes him more tetric

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

Na the obe from the series is not ozy

[@coreypayne261]

Hey OMG. I am so stoked and happy that you chose Ozymandias. When I looked on there and saw that you actually did it I couldn’t believe it I was ecstatic!! So I wanted to say thank you so much that means a lot to me so thank you Vile eye !! you’re the bomb. I absolutely enjoyed here in your take and your voice on one of the coolest villains in my opinion ever it made my whole week bro thank you!

[@Spideryote]

I confused this movie with Kingsman and was confused as to why I had no idea what was going on It wasn't until something about a giant cephalopod was mentioned that I finally decided to question it

[@horacegentleman3296]

Do you have brain damage? I do and I confuse things like this sometimes.

[@Spideryote]

@@horacegentleman3296 Possibly. But I also don't watch movies very often, so I forget what is what sometimes

[@nickasaro8789]

I think one of my favorite demonstrations of Adrian’s boundless ego and savior complex comes at the end of episode 8 of the HBO show when the game warden has him imprisoned for trying to leave Europa and in a really sobering moment, he basically admits to the game warden and himself that his whole crusade was never about utopia, not really. It was about him being the one to bring it about. He had his perfect world there and it still wasn’t enough for him. “When is heaven not enough? Heaven doesn’t need me”

[@MG007.]

Force is needed to invoke change. Unfortunately Ozymandias killed innocents. He should have gone for workd domination just like Superman from Injustice and Red Son

[@melvinmbuthia883]

You always do an in depth analysis of all your character, as usual great content & love your work

[@247hustler]

Analyzing Evil: Omni Man 🙌🏾

[@seand7042]

Ozymandias doesn't have delusions of grandeur he is grand, magnificent and every other way you'd word ascribing grandeur to him

[@VEIDT666]

That's the way to talk! Ozzy's legacy must be preserved at all costs.

[@judsongaiden9878]

3:54 Notice how the principal takes the side of the bully. Typical. That's unfortunately authentic to reality and I can vouch for it. It's a wonder Adrian didn't become more like Rorschach since Rorschach was shaped by similar repeated injustices. 15:42 The Cold War ended because the USSR dissolved. The USSR dissolved because it went bankrupt, collapsing from the oppressive weight of its own collectivist bureaucracy. And that was prompted by the Chernobyl disaster which signaled the death knell of Soviet socialism. So in a certain sense, it would seem nuclear cataclysms have a tendency to promote something geopolitically positive in their wake, usually involving the collapse of totalitarian regimes (which tend to be obsessed with the notion of using nuclear weapons to threaten the rest of the world into submission, leading to their ironic demise when those types of weapons are turned against them). 17:19 Deontology versus consequentialism. I prefer Rorschach's Chaotic Good version of deontological philosophy (which typically falls under the Lawful Good alignment, but Rorschach is atypical to the max). What do you call a Chaotic Good rogue who fights for a Lawful Good cause? Does that make them Neutral Good? And what's the technical term for that archetype? Other than the obvious "rogue," that is. And yeah, I stole some of this psychoanalytic pontificatin' nomenclature from Earthling Cinema. 18:53 More like a "superego" maniac. Yeah, I stole that from Earthling Cinema too. 19:05 I side with Rorschach. I also side with the nationalist Steve Rogers against the globalist Tony Stark.

[@ObZen1134]

Loved this character

[@PatrickWDunne]

Another great video! I'm hoping we get Johan Liebert soon

[@futurewario9591]

I'm hoping for Titan or Tighten from MegaMind.

[@btay2471]

Great as always. Id love to see a V from V for Vendetta episode!

[@garyreid6165]

“Adrian, I’m very disappointed in you.”- Dr. Manhattan Watchmen Ozymandias was a very intelligent man and I think that he probably wanted to know more and keep searching for something that he felt that he, alone, can attain. And because knowledge is power, he had to find it and keep it to himself. Like Dr. Victor Frankenstein, he sought to use his knowledge to create a new world. But, to create this world, he had to destroy the world around him( or a portion of it to achieve his goal). Vanity and narcissism combined with lofty ideas of good deeds do not work well together. There are many unknowns that require exhausted study and what effects these will have on people. As to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, if the bombs were not used, allied forces would have to physically invade Japan and fight against not only their military but the Japanese people. It would have been an all around slaughter for all sides. I am not saying that it was a good idea. Sometimes, I can’t believe that it was done. But it happened and the world would have to look at what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki before they go down the destructive path to use nuclear weapons in a war. Because a war like that is one no one ever wins.

[@akkakkakekkn]

This video is great! I'm glad you covered the comic version and not the crappy movie one

[@kennydlite]

Bro you always get the evil people I want to suggest but don't think of yet. You are gold!

[@leaflotus6726]

I view the bombs dropping as, you can't just talk it out with your enemy on the battlefield.