Analyzing Evil: Ozymandias From Watchmen

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Hello everyone and welcome to the seventy-eighth episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Ozymandias from Watchmen. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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[@michaelkaduck1915]

Ozymandias is the perfect embodiment of someone who has become so detached from humanity to recognize that there is still good. I know in the original comic, there are two characters, old Bernie and young Bernie, an old white man and a young black man, who form a great friendship over the course of the story. Old Bernie gives him a comic for free when young Bernie can't afford it, and old Bernie even throws himself in front of young Bernie to save him. When the comic was written, it really meant a lot to see this. Ozymandias can't see the micro level of good in the world. He never really wanted to improve the good, in reality, he just wanted to destroy the bad.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

that's a nice interesting view, didn't realize THAT was what that relationship met in the story, always wondered about that.

[@caseyroberts1171]

The aftermath scene in the graphic novel is a prime example of why "The Watchmen" was so difficult to translate to the screen. There are soooooo many little details that are important, like the old man and young boy. Another one that stands out is the lesbian could that were constantly arguing throughout the book. In the aftermath, you find their bodies in the rubble, hand in hand as they met death. Even as disfunctional as they were in life, in their final moments they sought each other out and greeted death together. Love, in its final moment, demonstrated that their love was stronger than their disagreements.

[@whitedragoness23]

Interesting, but I think Ozymandias would still see that good as being too small and trivial to make much an impact. And on the whole level people were largely evil and he rather see the evil side like that one guy from the squid games because it’s easier to see the bad than the goodness to justify actions

[@whitedragoness23]

@@Gadget-Walkmen I didn’t realize that myself, I thought it was to get the viewers used to who were some of the people who were going to die. Both black and white died by what Ozymandias saw as a equal death and it wasn’t targeted certain groups he just didn’t trust all of humanity at all as a whole.

[@wayneigoe6722]

Hey! Nice to see a fellow crew member of the Normandy!

[@AKFechtschule]

The setting established that the Warsaw Pact nations had drastically upscaled their nuclear arms production out of fear of Dr. Manhattan, and were more likely to use them as a result. Obviously, this was not an issue in our own world, hence why Ozymandias felt the threat of nuclear annihilation was a certainty if he did not act.

[@joshuaortiz2031]

Adrian Veidt is a hero for his actions. If killing millions saves billions its a necessary evil. Its pure utilitarian ideology in action.

[@xroyta4975]

But a compromise could have been made, if Ozymandias could have convinced Dr. Manhattan to leave Earth. Therefore Dr. Manhattan wouldn't be around to continue the escalation of conflict.

[@cflpinebox1072]

Lmaoooo

[@digitaldevil696]

It's not that Ozymandias shouldn't have act. On the contrary, with his vast possibilities, he should've, in my opinion, stepped up and tried to find the solution. With all the power he wields, it would be irresponsible to just sit and watch. However, the problem is with which course of action he took. He didn't exhaust all the possible options before doing what he did. Instead, he acted on emotions of fear and desire to be the Saviour, which he himself failed to recognize.

[@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor]

@@digitaldevil696 he....did though. He literally says he's tried to find other solutions but none of them would work

[@ashleytupper6049]

One of the best ‘villain’ moments in comic book and movie history: Adrian Veidt: The Comedian was right. Humanity's savage nature will inevitably lead to global annihilation. So in order to save this planet, I have to trick it... with the greatest practical joke in human history. Dan Dreiberg: Killing millions? Adrian Veidt: To save billions. A necessary crime. Rorschach: You know we can't let you do that. Adrian Veidt: 'Do that', Rorschach? I'm not a comic book villain. Do you seriously think I would explain my master stroke to you if there were even the slightest possibility you could affect the outcome? I triggered it 35 minutes ago. Always get chills at that end line.

[@uzitay815]

I always loved he said he’s not a comic book villain like bro yes you are

[@egggnome6266]

@@uzitay815 I feel that's why The Joker is really the most dangerous villain of all time. He knows he's a comic book villain , so his insanity has no inhibitions.

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

Indeed.

[@DundG]

@@egggnome6266 What has his knowledge that he is a comic book charakter to do with his danger level? He is as dangerous as the writers make him, and if the Joker knows this, he knows he can't surpass his limitations and will always loose to Batman. Ozymandias is far more dangerous, as he is written to be far more intelligent than the Joker. He succeded in his plan!

[@egggnome6266]

@@DundG You may want to look up the concept of meta and not try to fit things into those little boxes. We're trying to think outside of those.

[@calimanduff]

Whoa just realized why Adrien has the visual of Alexander cutting the Gordian knot. Instead of trying to untangle the complexities of the Cold War he decided to just cut through all of it in one violent action. Alexander “solving” the Gordian knot is a great story of someone doing something destructive just so that no one else can say they did what he had tried to do. The point of untying the Gordian knot was to have the rope to lead the ox, but Alexander destroys it. The point of ending the Cold War was to save lives, but Ozymandias kills millions just so no one else can claim to have “ended the Cold War”.

[@Mushroom-God-1]

That's a great analogy

[@cookieanddabutt2843]

That's not the meaning of that story. Never heard of it before. Thanks for making me look it up. You'd have hundreds of dollars from mindless "likers". Art always reflects the worse of us. The willfully challanged and happily blind.

[@jessyhart6638]

​@@cookieanddabutt2843 You used many words to say nothing.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

​@@cookieanddabutt2843 that's a nice pseudo-intellectual word salad, but you didn't say a damn thing.

[@SouthDakotaFacts]

My problem with Ozy is that there would have been so many better ways to save the world. Disarm missiles, build massive force fields, negation. Ozymandius seeks the drama, hence his constant admiration of Alexander. He needs to do something crazy. He let that get in the way of saving the world

[@InitialPC]

thats actually touched upon in the movie, even if dr manhattan stops 99% of incoming missiles, the remaining 1% can still cause tens of millions of deaths because of just how many missiles that will be launched

[@themakerstoolbox9688]

As much as I disagree with Ozymandius' plan this is not true. Disarming the nukes would be nigh impossible. Even if it was possible more would be made. You have to remember that these people arent superheros, they are people(other than Dr Manhattan). Imagine Bill Gates or Elon Musk trying to disarm the nuclear missiles today. Imagine them teying to do it in the 60s. It would be impossible. The world of watchmen is also MUCH closer to nuclear armageddon then our world ever has. Force fields would be a decent idea but you cant put the whole world under force fields. Ecen if you did the military complex would find ways to get through or around forcefields just like any other advancement that has ever been made. It really was a near impossible question to answer. The only real question is would the bombs have flown in the first place. Would diplomacy work in the end. Would Dr. Manhattan leaving actually hring some sort of peace. Those questions are very up in the air. In the end of the day Ozy's answer was successful and I dont think the ones you put forward would be. I also dont think there was an exhaustive list of good answers either. I think we have Diplomacy (very shakey answer to the threat. Could go wrong in a million ways), Dr Manhattan leaving (puts a lot of trust in other countries to not take advantage while america is weakened), Adrians answer (millions die), and maybe a few that I am too dumb to think of.

[@ADMG]

Yes and no. You are right about his ego and feeling superior than the rest of the world but it's also mentioned by the Comedian, they have to protect the people from themselves. In other words, even if those measures you say were taken, humans would've found more ways to kill each other.

[@mauricioangulos.2830]

Actually no. Ozymandias has a super intellect and has evaluated and pondered all the possible viable solutions and its outcomes. The fact that he chose such a drastic option shows how bad things where in his world.

[@alwaysplotting2096]

And in the end who was Adrian Veidt? He was a narcissistic genius who saw himself above others, who used his massive fortune and corporate resources to force his solution to a potential cataclysm upon the world, someone who justified his atrocities using the lives of the people he hadn't killed, and was ultimately outplayed by a homeless man with a journal.

[@khiryhelms]

Rorschach drops his journal off before he heads to the artic with Nite Owl II & Silk Spectre II. All he knew for certain at that point was that Veidt had killed the Comedian, but he didn't know why; meaning that there's nothing at all in there about Veidt's real plan. At best it would lead to him being investigated & tried for a single murder and that's only if anyone took a journal full of a madman's ramblings that couldn't be authenticated seriously to begin with. At worst, it would've been completely ignored or suppressed for the sake of maintaining the false peace between the US & the Soviets.

[@alwaysplotting2096]

@@khiryhelms Considering the emphasis the story puts on the journal at the end, I'd say we'll have to disagree.

[@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor]

He doesn't consider himself above others. He considers himself equal to everyone else, with an equal stake in what transpires on the planet. Which is why he, rightfully, does what he does.

[@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286]

@@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor rightfully 😐, absolutely no.

[@alwaysplotting2096]

@@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor He killed millions of innocent people not himself. He just goes on to enjoy his plan's success.

[@aphylorne3021]

Ozymandias and the MCU's version of Thanos are very similar to each other. Both had good intentions and were willing to sacrifice countless lives to reach their goals. The difference is Ozymandias actually won in the end.

[@joeparrigen4982]

So did Thanos. Until it was undone

[@stefandinus7701]

"any man, woman, or child in the name of peace" That's right. I just compared peacemaker to these two

[@bonerbreath6747]

@@joeparrigen4982 via a time travel plot device that was and still is an absolute asspull

[@Notsussybaka900]

The Comedian was based of Peacemaker. And according to most EU sources, and even his own name, Veidt’s plan was reversed just like Thanos’.

[@thephoenix4093]

thanos didn't have good intentions. he just wanted to prove himself right.

[@erkicman]

I remember reading in the forwards of one of his books that Alan Moore had no expectation that the Cold War was going to de-escalate as peacefully as it did. To him, humanity was so mad that maybe monstrous ideas were the only things that had a shot at stopping humanity’s total annihilation

[@mattwoodard2535]

He's more like the character he created, Ozymandias, than he realized. sm

[@dreadkalibur1613]

I believe there's one quote that best sums him up. "The Path to Hell is paved by good intentions."

[@jaha9329]

I love how Ozimandias plan in original Watchmen is straight-forward but complex on the moral ground and summary of his plan in HBO series and Doomsday Clock sounds like insane gibberish.

[@quinnholloway5400]

He ends up sounding as mad as Rorschach sounded to others Funny isn't it?

[@osmanyousif7849]

I hated what the creators did to Adrian in the HBO series. Nothing against Jeremy Irons, who does what he can with the role, but considering reading the novel and seeing who Adrian was like in the show, I literally screamed, "WHO THE F**K IS THIS GUY?". Irons portrays the character very much in an expressive-animated way, when in the novel, Adrian was reserved and somber. And then comes Episode 5 of the series where we see the tape Adrian made explaining his involvement in the Squid Attack and acts very cocky and delighted in the fact that he murdered 3 Million innocent civilians. And it was at that point that I almost wanted to give up on the show, because the Adrian we see at the manor house ain't a man driven to madness after over 3 decades of solitude and his masterstroke failing to bring about the Utopia he dreamed of, but simply a choice from the creator to make him like this. And sure you'd probably say, "But of course, Adrian would have this attitude as he's a raging narcissist.", and to that I say, "Well yes, BUT ALSO NO.". Because while Adrian is a narcissist, his narcissism is more nuanced than how narcissism is portrayed in media. Because in the novel, Adrian displays characteristics that seem to contradict this profile. The man gave away his family fortune, his crime-fighting led to good in the world, and created a company to help make the world a better place. He was a philanthropist, pacifist (WAS, FYI...), and didn't do anything he was doing for financial gain. But he was however, self-absorbed and took pride in his on vanity. So while he was a narcissist, he wasn't raging with hedonism and step on those who he saw to dare take what was his, but more of the fact that he had a messiah complex that convinced himself that ONLY HE can save the world. And that was the whole theme of the original novel. Of how a person may truly and sincerely be benevolent, and help the world become a better place, there's a deeper, self-serving motivation, whether the person is conscious of it or not, to their "heroism". Therefore I find the way the creators portrayed Adrian's expression of narcissism in the show absurdly off-base. And this interpretation of his character is later amplified in episodes 8 - 9. As the show makes it seem like Adrian is in despair, not because his plan didn't lead to the Utopia he dreamed of, but that the people of the world don't know that he was the one who saved them from nuclear destruction. Adrian probably would care that much if the people of Earth knew that it was him who orchestrated the Squid Attack. But Adrian in the novel goes to great lengths to ensure that nobody would find out. Sure he tells Rorschach, Dan, and Laurie, but the three are already fugitives at that point, therefore they probably should keep their mouths shut, and Dr Manhattan would just simply not be bothered to say anything. So yeah, the creators of the show didn't understand Adrian and how complex he was and just saw him to be this cartoonish villain who has raging narcissistic qualities, let alone caring about the nuances of Adrian's character.

[@professr9343]

@@osmanyousif7849bruh nobody’s reading your whole rant about fictional characters . Let your ass sit alone for 30 years and see how your personality changes . This man is a human not a robot a very nutty human at that

[@chadlarson4149]

Your greatest challenge still remains: Vic Mackey, from The Shield.

[@huldrrrr9486]

This was a beautiful analysis of a fascinating character, great job as usual! For further consideration: Angel Eyes from The Good The Bad and The Ugly, Indio from For a A Few Dollars More and Jack Meriddew from Lord of the Flies

[@leomilmet854]

Jack Merridew is especially interesting! However, I’d like to add two more to the list from some of those very works: Tuco, from the Good The Bad and The Ugly And Roger from Lord of the Flies From what I recall, Roger makes Jack look like a sweetheart by the end of that extremely disturbing novel.

[@huldrrrr9486]

@@leomilmet854 Somehow I could never really see Tuco as evil, he is more of a anti-villain or anti-hero in my eyes, but he could be an interesting character to analyse either way! Yeah Roger is a really interesting counterpart to Jack. If Jack represents the Stalins of the world, Roger represents the Ted Bundys. Lord of the Flies and the Inner Darkness of Man as a whole could just get its own video really haha!

[@hildaenjoyer8862]

The greatest comic book villain ever, and by quite some distance. Not many villains are able to convey their beliefs in such a compelling way and to the extent that the ‘heroes’ feel they have to let him go because taking his victory away from him would make the world a worse place, despite him essentially murdering millions in cold blood. His ideology is actually driven be a sense of righteousness and is molded by his environment, where human life is seen as cheap and he believes humanity is doomed to apocalypse if left to its own devices. He is a total piece of shit morally, but he’s acting rational within the framework world leaders operate in. His actions aren’t that different to the atomic bombings of Japan, 100,000s killed to save millions. Fantastic character and not one we’ll ever see in stuff like the MCU.

[@ajiththomas2465]

The difference though is that the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't the reasons why Imperial Japan surrendered. The monarchy and nobility of Imperial Japan didn't give a single iota of a shit about the people lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the vast majority of them were poor people and peasants, who the Imperial Japan monarchy saw as unimportant as ants. They would've gladly sacrificed millions of Japanese peasants into the meat grinder if it would allow Imperial Japan a victory. That is how canyon wide the socioeconomic gap between the leaders of Japan and the people of Japan were. The real reason that Imperial Japan surrendered was because of their losing naval battles against Soviet Russia. When their naval loss to Soviet Russia was inevitable, that's when Imperial Japan threw in the towel. Imperial Japan simply used the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the quote "official" reason why they surrendered rather than their naval loss to Russia because they could at least portray themselves as a victim with the former. Had America not dropped the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but instead simply helped Russia crush the Imperial Japanese forces over air and sea, then Imperial Japan would've surrendered all the same.

[@94462]

You literally described Thanos to a T from the MCU

[@tylerd80495]

@@94462 Right, but that version of Thanos was created in the last 10 years. Original Thanos was just in love with Death and wanted to show his love by killing half the universe.

[@PlaNkie1993]

Well said sir

[@Teddy-kv1bf]

A fellow fe player 👏🏿👀

[@nicokrasnow1851]

Amazing video. This analysis on Ozimandias makes me recall what I thought about Taravangian from the Stormlight Archive.

[@Spideryote]

I confused this movie with Kingsman and was confused as to why I had no idea what was going on It wasn't until something about a giant cephalopod was mentioned that I finally decided to question it

[@horacegentleman3296]

Do you have brain damage? I do and I confuse things like this sometimes.

[@Spideryote]

@@horacegentleman3296 Possibly. But I also don't watch movies very often, so I forget what is what sometimes

[@TheCrimsonOrchestra]

Love your work. Would like to see your interpretation of the Villian(s) in the Count of Monte Cristo. There are four or five characters whose actions might be interesting to examine. Count Fernand Mondego - Best Friend & Jealous Betrayer Danglars - Conspiracy Architect Gerard de Villefort - Corrupt Magistrate Armand Dorleac - Prison Warden The main character, Edmund Dantes, could be considered evil as well due to the extreme measures he undertakes & the collateral damage he leaves on his quest to exact revenge upon those listed above.

[@jackofhearts6952]

One of my favorite books honestly I was totally with all his revenge till he made the dad of the women he liked go literally mad. But also he still deserves it and just because you have close relationships with others shouldn’t mean you can’t be punished.

[@Maxwell03]

Speaking of Jeremy Irons, you should do a video on Humbert Humbert from Lolita, the most chilling villain in literature and film.

[@seand7042]

Ozymandias doesn't have delusions of grandeur he is grand, magnificent and every other way you'd word ascribing grandeur to him

[@VEIDT666]

That's the way to talk! Ozzy's legacy must be preserved at all costs.

[@ghostsofwargow2511]

I loved the movie, I’ve rewatched it a dozen times, never gets old.

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

Even after Nagasaki, the emperor of Japan still needed his generals to talk him into surrendering. He didn't care his people were dying.

[@leomilmet854]

Some of the best villains (some are much more LOW KEY villains than you usually cover but just as excellent) you haven’t covered yet: 1. Sergeant Dixon (3 Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri) 2. Richard Strickland (The Shape Of Water) 3. Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann (Full Metal Jacket) 4. The Zodiac Killer (Zodiac) 5. The Bosses from Horrible Bosses 6. Chuck Bass from Gossip Girl 7. Diana Christensen (Network) 8. Emperor Inoue (Silence) 9. Daisy Domergue (The Hateful 8) 10. Bonnie and Clyde (are these murderous bank robbers “evil”? You decide). 11. Bev Keane and Father Paul (Midnight Mass) 12. Harry Lime (The Third Man) 13. Charles Foster Kane (Citizen Kane), and the relationship of that character to yellow journalist William Randolph Hearst - is that much pride and ego “evil”? 14. Richard Hoover from Little Miss Sunshine. He may not be EVIL in the traditional sense. He is not a murderer or rapist or even a career criminal. But the way he treats his own daughter for much of the film is so inexcusable that his flaws make for a fascinating “philosophical antagonist” as Michael Arndt himself said on the bonus features. 15. Phyllis Dietrichson (Double Indemnity) 16. Eve Harrington (All About Eve) 17. Brandon (Rope) 18. Bruno Antony (Strangers On A Train) 19. Charlie Oakley (Shadow of a Doubt) 20. Ray, Ken, and Harry (In Bruges) 21. Doug Macray and James Coughlin (The Town) 22. Mark Zuckerberg (as portrayed in THE SOCIAL NETWORK-I don’t know enough about the real guy to know if he counts as evil) 23. Col. Nathan R Jessup (A Few Good Men) 24. Lt. Jonathan Kendrick (A Few Good Men) 25. Ed Kemper (Mindhunter)

[@deadpoolshark7000]

This is such a great list I’d be surprised if he doesn’t have some of these planned already

[@leomilmet854]

@@deadpoolshark7000 thank you! It started with my idea that the people he analyzes need not be the WORST HUMANS ON THE PLANET in their respective films in order to be fascinating. And also…some of these guys (Richard Hoover, Kane, Chuck Bass) are hard to define as EVIL but they have really warped mindsets that I think would be so cool for this guy (IDEK The Vile Eye’s real name) to analyze. I’d also LOVE to see an analysis of literally everyone in the novel Crime and Punishment (Marmeladov, Luzhin, Svidrigailov, Porfiry, of course Raskolnikov) but that is one VERY tall order LOL. At the very least I hope to see either Col. Jessup, Sgt. Hartmann, Sgt. Dixon, Diana from Network, Inoue from Silence, and/or Charlie Oakley. I feel like those are the MOST evil with the most to say about the issue. Hell, I’d be down for a dual analysis of the evils of the Catholic missionaries in Japan AND of the anti-Christian establishment of the Tokugawa shogunate. Silence is probably my second favorite Scorsese film after Goodfellas and maybe Taxi Driver TBH. For me, it could be the most underrated film ever made by a director who has been so thoroughly inducted into the canon

[@leomilmet854]

@@deadpoolshark7000 And, since you showed interest, I took one guy off because I didn’t want the list to be dominated by Kubrick and military figures, but Paths Of Glory’s Gen. Broulard (George Macready) or Gen. Mireau (Adolphe Menjou) are two more of my favorite villains ever.

[@daltonanderson3718]

I wonder if the same pondering can be done with MCU's Zemo.

[@Darkvega2k7]

I'm glad you added the events of Doomsday Clock to this. I loved that story arc.

[@Dayonetheone]

He has always been my favorite Anti-hero. I never saw him as a Anti-Villain. I always thought that his vision was to look at the bigger picture. Where as everyone else reacted and acted off emotions. I'm not saying I agree with his acts all together but I completely understood what he was trying to accomplish and some ways was successful but wish he could've thought of a different path. But I love his brilliance & compassion.

[@markp9366]

We need a analyzing evil on mr glass

[@sc6658]

Ozymandias is one of my favorite antagonists of all time and for good reason.

[@MG007.]

Force is needed to invoke change. Unfortunately Ozymandias killed innocents. He should have gone for workd domination just like Superman from Injustice and Red Son

[@Wetzeem]

730 on a Friday night, in my pajamas, eating gummies and watching Watchmen deep dives. I love my 30’s.

[@btay2471]

Great as always. Id love to see a V from V for Vendetta episode!

[@rarelysmile-ish2320]

Analyzing Evil: Xavier Renegade Angel, make it happen

[@Keandros]

This reminds me of the Kashyyk Rakatan Computer in Kotor 1. The dilemmas it presents, particularly the one about breaking enemy codes, deciding to save a city now or wipe out the majority of the enemy forces in one stroke. Another dilemma was whether or not to allow an enemy attack to happen as it would unite your people or save loves but risk your people overthrowing you later. An Analyzing Evil on Revan would be awesome. More on his actions before and after kotor 1, as kotor is based on player choice, although the light choices are considered canon.

[@nickmontalbano9573]

The Scariest Villain is One Who Makes Sense.

[@master6of6omens6]

Suggestion for a villain/pair of villains for a future episode: Howard and Pearl from Ti West's X.

[@mokatal]

It was his Gordian Knot. Solving a complex puzzle (the Cold War) with brute force (psi-squids).

[@lsdcyclops7316]

Analyzing Evil: Trevor Phillips from GTA V

[@madripoor6652]

Ozymandias has to be one of the most interesting characters in all of comics, another product of the genius of Alan Moore.

[@Balevolt]

Huh, his surname is pronounced almost the same as my families swiss surname. It's spelled different though.

[@DTylerFultzVA]

My suggestions... Homelander (The Boys) Dio Brando, Yoshikage Kira, Diavolo (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) Zeus (God of War) Madara Uchiha (Naruto) Captain Walker (Spec Ops: The Line) Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) Tohru Adachi (Persona 4 series) Heihachi Mishima (Tekken) Dracula (Castlevania) King Bradley (Fullmetal Alchemist) Solidus Snake (Metal Gear Solid) Kirei Kotomine (Fate series)

[@chamberofprogress5025]

An excellent study of Evil would be the Hutu militia that slaughtered the Tutsis in ‘Hotel Rwanda.’

[@LuisRodriguez-kz7nt]

"before Watchmen" a Journey trough Ozzymandias neck paralisis

[@somedude4805]

Bullied and beaten for being intelligent, then PUNISHED for defending himself. Gee, can’t imagine how he became a villain….

[@Drewtheraikage]

I love these videos. You guys should do a series called Analyzing Good where you analyze heroes who are complex or misunderstood i.e Batman, Rorsach,

[@jorgevazquez1197]

Rorschach is not a hero lol

[@avshalomsagi9921]

Rorschach is definitely not the hero, if anything you could say nite owl

[@Drewtheraikage]

@@jorgevazquez1197 imo he is. Really a anti hero. He stands for the just but yk, he kills ppl

[@ultrainferno.]

@@jorgevazquez1197 rorschach is definitely a hero.

[@ShahStark]

Would love to see a video on Dio Brando or Yoshikage Kira

[@danieltoft2116]

"Of course, you must protect Veidt's new utopia"

[@sp0ckz0mbi3]

I don't think you can say Ozzy had delusions of grandeur. The guy lived up to his own hype.

[@darlalathan6143]

If written even more realistically, he would have made dangerous mistakes and failed, anyway. "Delusions of grandeur" implies that one has less physical ability than one thinks. He was not wise enough to think of or research or listen to more harmless solutions, shows the limits of his intelligence. There could be super geniuses smarter than Adrian, such as Dr. Manhattan, for instance.

[@wolfbane7497]

I got to admit he's pure evil but he's right also

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

he's not "pure evil", he's done evil things with seemingly good intensions on his part/view.

[@Mod20087]

Great as always. Maybe some ideas for the future: Makuta (teridax) from bionicle; char aznable from the gundam franchise and clou from tron.

[@arempy5836]

The ultimate "[BLANK] Did Nothing Wrong" character.

[@horacegentleman3296]

No, that's Griffith. He's close though.

[@arempy5836]

@@horacegentleman3296 yeah, but... Ozymandias ACTUALLY did nothing wrong

[@horacegentleman3296]

@@arempy5836 but he did and the original meme came from 4chan and is about Hitler. Context is important.

[@arempy5836]

@@horacegentleman3296 I know it was originally about Hitler. I'm just saying Ozymandias is the first character that comes to my mind when I think of villains you can genuinely argue were in the right.

[@horacegentleman3296]

@@arempy5836 his results were positive can't argue that

[@ceoofgrind8101]

I've always seen Ozymandias as a Lex Luthor-esque figure without a Superman to keep him in check. He wants to save the world, but only if he's the one doing it. His ego is too large, so all encompassing that he can't even imagine that anyone other than him can do it, or that the world doesn't need saving.

[@tereziamarkova2822]

Actually, not to be That Person, but the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't intended to force a surrender out of a nation that wouldn't surrender at all, but rather one who waited for Soviet intervention. Either way, by the end of the year, Japan would surrender, USA just wanted to be the only one in control when that happened. The bombings were a purely strategic move that did not, in fact, save that many people, and even if it did, that wasn't their purpose anyway.

[@TaliaIGhul]

His goal was to prevent world war 3 and for the most part he did. His heart was definitely in the right place, but because he killed millions, he can be considered evil. The jury is still out though on whether or not he could be considered a necessary evil.

[@djsombreropictures4523]

There is no such thing as necessary evil. That kinda thinking is what brings about people like Ozymandius.

[@darthrage8673]

I thought it being May 4th you would analyze a Star Wars villain like Darth Revan.

[@stl1321]

The only one who possibly knew how it all turned out was Dr Manhattan. Yet, he was destined not to do anything and so was Ozymandias not to change. The inevitably of Barabas betraying Jesus.

[@keepwatchingthat]

I love your videos absolutely never disappoints and I'm happy to see I'm not alone in it. I hope even more come to enjoy.

[@shogus0046]

If Ozy was smart enough to create a squid than he should be smart enough to find a peaceful way, but he wasn’t. He was just evil

[@dsgdsg9764]

I've watched every single analyzing evil episode correct me if I'm wrong this is the first time you can't decide if this person is holy evil on its own your work is very important please continue

[@mikevivona-z2u]

The path to Hell is paved with good intentions

[@fofao681]

you should do one on eren jaeger from attack on titans granted he is more of an antihero but the number of deaths he cause just like ozymandia , I think he is worth the consideration

[@matthewphilip2609]

Can you make an analysis on David 8 from the prometheus movies?

[@grox7813]

Huh I was thinking about you making this video this week. Glad I didn't even have to ask for it lmao

[@nelsonroqueakathepuertoric4228]

Thank you for this giving a lot of information plus i just inter the world of watchmen i like how they put real life events that happened but different of how we lost the vietnam war but in the watchmen world we won the Vietnam war im starting to learn the characters such as the comedian and dr.Manhattan plus you should do a video of homelander from the boys i would really love to see that from your channel

[@untitled2235]

Ozymandia is like the realist version of batman.

[@7S5y3X.0th]

"cold war ended in our world without drastic measures" sure, just how much more lives it took to end it. Dude was correct

[@LuocasKitten]

He is my fav villains in all of comics

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

I can easily foresee Ozymandias and Leto II Atreides liking to meet the Jaëgers Brothers, one of these days. Sieg and Eren Jaëger would fascinate them.

[@kobepurple]

I know this is a very odd request, especially since this character is from a children book and movie, but can you do a episode on Greg Heffley?

[@harvibahia7987]

The poppy war is so FIRE

[@porkflaps4717]

If you knew the utter absolute ferocity Japan was fighting WWII with, you wouldn't question what was done. They viewed the Emperor as a literal "god", and their "god" did not believe in compromise, took NO prisoners, was out for conquest at ALL costs to the last man. Japan would have NEVER STOPPED slaughtering in the barbaric fashion they had been since they invaded China over a decade earlier.. One of the stipulations in surrender was that Japan's Emperor HAD to publicly admit to his people that he was not a god, nor his line. The mistake made in WWII was not stamping out Communism when we had the chance,, as Patton and MacArthur plead with our leaders to do. Globalist globocrats already had such a hold of the world that they saw it antithetical to their goals. Globalists NEED neverending crisis/war where NOBODY "wins" in order for them to shape society into what THEY see fit. These are the TRUE enemies of liberty and freedom. Their end goal is a world so utterly controlled and locked down, you will not be able to buy or sell without their say. It's the DEATH of Liberty and Freedom in the name of "Peace and Safety".

[@kitsunejager6353]

From someone named after the Great himself, without condoning, or condemning, I understand.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

I think the only point i disagree is Japan was ready for surrender Because they knew the soviets were coming for them next They would surrender to the US The 2 atom bombs were dropped for nothing

[@Boonton2010]

A good video. One thing I think the movie and original comic demonstrated well was that the universe with superheroes in it was a worse universe than the one we live in. By setting it in the early 80's we can look back at our past and realize that their universe was closer to war because the existence of heroes allowed the US to press the Cold War harder and nuclear war was unavoidable in their timeline while we know from ours it was avoided (at least so far).

[@Yatukih_001]

To me, Ozymandias completely lost it - he is essentially googoo gagga. Thanks for your video on Ozymandias and the Watchmen!

[@SafetyBriefer]

Didn't Moore say that the Tale of the Black Freighter was supposed to be a metaphor for Ozymandius?

[@addimbantuwe9406]

Kinda realised how heavily inspired Thanos is by this guy

[@thechallenger752]

I have to disagree with the comparison of Ozymandias and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as he simply killed millions, whereas America dropped the LeMay Leaflets urging leaders to surrender and civilians to evacuate. Another thing worth noting is that Ozymandias killed, betrayed, manipulated, and deceived multiple people to eventually kill even more people and portray himself as the hero, and America was literally at war with Japan. To me, the two are not comparable.

[@petermj1098]

The fact he blamed the attack on aliens/Dr Manhattan instead of taking the blame shows he is just protecting his own pride cause he knows humanity would make him the villain instead of ruining his reputation as a hero.

[@Gene_4160]

If you were to ever branch out into more video game characters I recommend The Master from Fallout and Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2, very good characters

[@palomasaudios2676]

Can you try out Yuri from Girl From Nowhere for the next Analyzing Evil Episode?

[@UriahElroy666]

I'd love to see an episode featuring Revolver Ocelot from Metal Gear Solid lore.

[@benjamingamache6441]

Thank you so very much to the vile eye!

[@masternoob9673]

He’s pretty much if Batman had the same mindset as his fanboys: Overestimate himself in every sense to the point of delusional absurdity.

[@sbarn542]

Can you please do the Commandant, from “Beasts of No Nation”? He’s played by Idris Elba and is such a great actor in the film.

[@belltoadtall7673]

I would really like to see you make a video about Lalo Salamanca from Better Call Saul, preferably after the show ends.

[@treeford6068]

Please do Adora and Amma Crellin from Sharp Objects. Love your channel!

[@Yakuzaka1412]

I only watched the movie, not the HBO series and I also don't read the comic. However, in the movie Adrian is very clearly the hero of the story while rorschach is the villain.

[@3ggh3ad]

how about the Commandant (idris Elba) from "Beasts of no Nation"?

[@alecburquez4827]

I hope Professor Moriarty is on your upcoming list!! That would be a good one!

[@Karlwasright]

The Cold War never ended. Ozymandias was right about everything.

[@ThickWhiteDuchess]

Could you make a video about Bob from Twin Peaks?

[@akashshetty5112]

You should do The Comedian from The Watchmen next. He wasn’t very good, but he wasn’t very bad which is why I think an analysis on him would be very interesting.

[@jdlech]

The ends do not justify the means. Sometimes they do. But rarely, and not without full consideration. That's what Ozymandias failed to do. He let his ego override his intellect.

[@coletrain6545]

Like lex Luther said to him. "If your the smartest man on your planet I'd hate to see the dumbest"

[@Texicus_Reddicus]

TL;DR He's a super genius that keeps saving the world by creating new problems that threaten to destroy the world

[@canadian_american84]

Ah! Love you're video! I wonder if you have done the devils advocate?

[@dynaguy3]

Watchmen displayed the guilt of the U.S. and asked whether dropping the bombs in Japan was the right decision. Akira showcased how Japan was forever changed after the bombs and asked whether the creation of them has brought humanity too close to godhood with such destructive power.

[@rubenaerts7284]

In the original comic and even the movie, he wasn't that stereotype narcist they made out of him later (especially in the TV show) . There were different filosophies presented in Rorsach, Ozymandias, Dr Manhattan,.. Rorsach stood for no compromise, Ozymandias stood for it's better to kill 'a few' in order to save many more. Most of us like Rorsach better, but the original story doesn't really make a judgment on who was right or wrong. I really hate what they did with him in the TV show.

[@CrimsonGuard1992]

Analyzing Evil: Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2

[@michaelnorris2765]

Great pick for a character to analyze!

[@knightshousegames]

So when it comes to the question of dropping the bomb, one has to consider that it wasn't really about Japan. Making them surrender was a nice byproduct of the act, but ultimately it was more about sending a message to the Soviets. And really, as terrible as it was, it kinda needed to happen, as seeing just how terrible nuclear weapons could be made sure they were never used in an act of war ever again. If the US had held back, and not shown the world the horror of the A bomb, when no one else had one to retaliate with, it easily could have lead to the Armageddon scenario Watchmen is entirely built around. The Cuban Missile Crisis WAS a crisis because everyone knew what the stakes really were. Blowing big holes into a desolate test site in the middle of nowhere, no matter how many times you do it, doesn't compare to the horror of seeing the effects on a real life city with real life people. That terror had to be burned into the minds of an entire generation to save the world from making that mistake again. All of the nuclear disarmament treaties and test ban treaties that exist today came in the wake of those two blasts. So not only did it save the lives that would have been lost had aggression continued between the Allies and Japan, but it made sure dropping atom bombs wasn't commonplace in modern warfare.

[@TheKitsuneCorp]

In my opinion the choice to drop the bombs on Japan was not the “only” or even “best” way to end the war, but the most expedient. An approaching soviet invasion of Japan would threaten the establishment of another communist power in the Pacific which America could not stomach. As such, they ended the war as quickly as possible and treated the Japanese favorably despite the hatred between the sides in order to ensure there was a friendly capitalist power in the East.

[@naamari]

Have you thought about doing Ben Linus from Lost?