The Worst, Most Broken Map in TF2

[@deathberryjam907]

Literally was in a party, and every single time we got this map our games would crash. No bot. No Ddos. Just Wutville.

[@PlasmaAsthmaOG]

The Power Of Wut

[@marlon.8051]

sigmaville

[@Marisad]

Simply a ville issue

[@rainbowfrog1239]

"No bots. No Ddos. Just Wutville." Is my new catchphrase.

[@thataintfalco7106]

“Just Wutville” sounds terrifying for some reason

[@Qurent]

Just to remind everyone, don't hate on the map creator, hate on Valve. Dude just made a map for fun, probably never expecting it would end up in the game and Valve decided that it complements effect of their drugs nicely.

[@linhero797]

Are we just going to ignore the fact the Map Creator did make a shitty map regardless? Yeah Valve is at fault for the absolute retardation of picking the Map but Valve still wasn't the one who made the end product.

[@itstherealbrace6424]

​@@linhero797tons of people make bad maps, I've made bad maps, I don't expect Valve to put them in the game

[@linhero797]

@@itstherealbrace6424 Yes. And valve is at fault for doing so. But they still are not at fault for the shitty quality of the map itself. The creator is. Valve is at fault for the terrible choice of Wutville. Not the terrible quality of Wutville.

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

@@linhero797 actually they likely are also at fault for the quality because they didn't even give the creator any time to actually make it quality

[@linhero797]

@@Scruffy-qi3ik The map was made years ago, and was abandoned. Most of the issues with the map have been there for years. Yes Valve gave the creator 1 week to touch it up. But the main issues with Wutville at a surface level were just bad optimization. Large chunks of the map were rendered when they weren't visible and such. Valve most likely didn't consider the Gameplay side and looked at the map on a technical level and that is why they gave the creator a week to fix it. Since most of the fixes for these issues weren't too hard to implement. Valve still is shit for picking Wutville but the quality of Wutville is still the creators fault.

[@bizboy6036]

This map is a metaphor for how much valve cares about this game

[@smailchali5102]

@@heavenandhello6629 cool but did i ask

[@dashieprodx]

Wutville can really be described in one word. "wut"

[@Dego0X]

Ville 😃👍

[@ME0WMERE]

'wut' 'this is vile'

[@autumnbomb]

I would love to see a series where someone fixes all the problems with wutville

[@nailotsot]

I wonder just how long the series would be

[@neutrinocarrot4848]

"Why isn't it possible?" "It's just not." "Why not you stupid bastard?"

[@SammyK-jt3vv]

step 1, delete wutville step 2, put snow on upward fixed

[@jankkhvej434]

i tried to when it was originally added and gave up

[@mayo_-]

Problem with fixing wutville ends up in not even a map remotely close to wutville. It's fundamentally flawed, especially with it's lack of "staging areas" and horrendous sniper sightlines. Really the only way of "fixing" the map is to remake it from the ground up

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

Fun fact: Wutville has an updated version that was just never given to valve

[@D0ASKE]

@@heavenandhello6629havent played tf2 in awhile but it seems like its goin down the drain people like you

[@Pygargue00fr]

They need to give it then

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@D0ASKE Someone is scared of accepting stuff that is true regardless if he doesn’t want it to be true.

[@danic_c]

@@heavenandhello6629 What about the poorly optimized performance?

[@fruitpigenthusiast120]

@@danic_c I ain t never experienced that

[@Everik-ct6pg]

I actually love Wutville's concept. A child slavery-ridden sweatshop ruled by Old Nick, disguised as a Christmas village attraction. If the execution was solid, it could genuinely be THE Christmas map for TF2, working perfectly with it's lore. But sadly, the creator didn't have enough time to actually redo and finish this old map before valve decided to add it out of the blue.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Except that's likely not the concept at all because I'm 100% certain that the map creator did this map out of passion purely for the Grinch movie/cartoon because if you look at how Whoville in the movie/cartoon looks you would probably be some familiarities with how the map looks, just the names alone should be easy to realize where the inspiration for the map came from.

[@RighteousBisonEnjoyer]

Isn’t santa dead in tf2

[@jonathansmithers2763]

1:56 As a person with ADHD, I can confirm the map pl_wutville_event is exactly what ADHD feels like.

[@violetchan6402]

double confirm

[@alexszulczynski5546]

@@violetchan6402 triple confirm

[@ketaminepoptarts]

@@alexszulczynski5546 quadruple confirm

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@cewla3348 That shouldn’t be fixed for the same reason as my reasoning for the spawncamping and sniping distances.

[@aidingagent3885]

@@heavenandhello6629 That doesn't excuse Wutville being a shit map.

[@258thHiGuy]

This is the kinda map that makes elaborate schemes to stop Christmas from coming

[@ranibowspr1imkle]

the kinda map to grin wider than its face

[@funnystickgoboom]

Oh boy, I sure love watching TheWhats new Swissmas map review. I sure hope nothing traumatizing happens around the 2:15 mark!

[@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708]

🤢 🤮

[@redmegarex]

5:20 top left

[@PajamaPantsStudios]

Literally one of the best maps added in the last 5 years

[@iceskimo_]

The map creator is holding him hostage to say this

[@danielsong8307]

Truly one of the best maps in the last 5 years.

[@noodlenoxo]

One of the top 20 payload maps

[@zeebaka]

Not much competition, sadly.

[@PajamaPantsStudios]

@@noodlenoxo definitely in my top 5 holiday themed payload maps

[@coffee0093]

If I recall correctly, I don't think this map was even designed to be played like a normal map. I think the designer made it as solely an art project, and then Valve just up and puts it into TF2. I don't even think it was done iirc

[@cursedhawkins1305]

That's likely how it was, I mean look at how the map looks and then look at Whoville from "How the grinch stole Christmas" plenty of ways to tell what inspired the map's appearance.

[@lookameme3522]

Had a fun time playing on Wutville when there were three guys who all had their names as the ghost of Wutville’s past, present, and future.

[@aSmallGreenDot]

This map is actually so advanced that it limits your frames to 30 fps because it knows that the human eye can't see any higher

[@jarjarbingbong]

As someone who has a ballin PC at home I built specifically to do actual rocket science, I can say this map does indeed tank NASA supercomputer performance.

[@PlasmaAsthmaOG]

It's begginning to look a lot like Wutville Glitches everywhere Render bugs are in our spawn We got past them so move on Lots of sniper sightlines so beware. It's begginning to look a lot like Wutville Sentries are unfair And the shittiest thing to see Is that a demo seems to be Floating in the air.

[@heavenandhello6629]

My answers to everyone’s excuses for hating Wutville: “The spawn placements attract spawncamping” Lol, skill issue! NOOB! :D “There are too many open spaces which allows snipers to have a bigger advantage” Lol, skill issue! NOOB! :D “The visuals don’t look like something that belongs in tf2 and should only be a trade map” Too bad so sad! Nothing on Christmas is meant to fit tf2’s artstyle. So deal with it! Otherwise go cry! :D In conclusion, the only thing that Thirteen (the steam name of the creator of Wutville) needs to remove is the fog. And about the exploits, they were all patched except the one of where you can sticky jump onto the clip brushes that let you walk on air that is right after the first checkpoint. I don’t want that to get patched though and I’m also gonna miss the underground exploit. I love seeing people rage.

[@martinmatin6275]

​@@heavenandhello6629 it still is a bad map

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@martinmatin6275 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYvOepWBrauYmZo&pp=ygUUa2VlcCBjcnlpbmcgYmFieSB0ZjI%3D

[@SamuelTrademarked]

@@heavenandhello6629 amazing troll

[@ThatguycalledJoe]

My main takeaway from this is that someone should make a map that's just Turbine, except each spawn room has a portal that takes you to Doublecross instead.

[@allisonthunstrom2340]

I am so happy this dude made an astounding viral video (worst load out). His personality, humor, and just overall videos are amazing.

[@rojahel7216]

I've been a victim of engineers placing sentries within the doors of both red's first spawn and blu's last spawn, leaving the sentry free to mow them down :/ Every time I see this map I grow slightly more convinced Valve didn't even play the map at all before adding it

[@heavenandhello6629]

My answers to everyone’s excuses for hating Wutville: “The spawn placements attract spawncamping” Lol, skill issue! NOOB! :D “There are too many open spaces which allows snipers to have a bigger advantage” Lol, skill issue! NOOB! :D “The visuals don’t look like something that belongs in tf2 and should only be a trade map” Too bad so sad! Nothing on Christmas is meant to fit tf2’s artstyle. So deal with it! Otherwise go cry! :D In conclusion, the only thing that Thirteen (the steam name of the creator of Wutville) needs to remove is the fog. And my same answer for the spawn placements and snipers also goes for the sentries you mentioned

[@jarate8076]

@@heavenandhello6629 1 yr ago and still wrong...

[@Rraptor1012]

The best experience I've ever had on this map was when I listened to a guy talk about math for 40 minutes.

[@raymarinas2107]

Did you get the notes on it? I missed the lesson.

[@Popcorn_Pillow]

I was on gmod once. And mind you I haven't seen the new maps yet, and I clicked on the tf2 tab and saw wutville. I went on an thought that this couldn't possibly be an actual map in tf2. But it was.

[@Popcorn_Pillow]

@@heavenandhello6629 I haven't really played it because on christmas a tornado kinda nearly made me homeless but what I mostly hate about it is how ugly it looks.

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@Popcorn_Pillow It’s a Christmas map and nothing on Christmas is meant to fit tf2’s artstyle

[@Popcorn_Pillow]

@@heavenandhello6629 dude what. I can think of tons of Christmas-y maps that fit the artstyle. But this just looks like santa's toilet bowl.

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@Popcorn_Pillow It’s a Christmas map and nothing on Christmas is meant to fit tf2’s artstyle! m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6qTc6mrbNusb6s

[@Popcorn_Pillow]

@@heavenandhello6629 yes but least the other ones actually look good.

[@soundwave8475]

Regarding the snipers, I think I heard Snipers could actually hide in those ugly trees before it got patched

[@davidhong1934]

Incidentally, the map kept playing "Fortunate Son" on loop

[@Great_Blue]

Can't believe you lost the official TheWhat Yacht in the divorce :(

[@TheWhatShow]

I got to keep a couple lifesavers and the dingy but it's not the same :(

[@Cavalry827]

4:40 One must imagine heavy and pyro happy.

[@Beelzebeth]

Wutville's existence has unironically cost me £40 Luv that map

[@Dalek59862]

I'm gonna need an explanation

[@CarOoce]

how so?

[@PARTY_MUTT]

2:20. Thank you thewhat. You made me spit out my sparkling water out of shock/laughter.

[@dragonfluf]

This feels like the map equivalent of the Hazmat Headcase. Its sniper compatibility was added as a joke, but somehow made it into the official pool. Both call into question Valve's quality control when it comes to community-made content.

[@cristhianalmendares8276]

Definitely going to vote for this map on every Uncletopia server, it is one of the maps of all time.

[@Anxiety_cx]

"c'mon.. santas got a surprise for you" 2:24

[@massimo8408]

"Is this what ADHD feels like?" Yes, when you are terribly bored

[@sidefanatic]

2:14 that is one of my favorite videos on the internet, thanks for adding

[@nukemkablewem2090]

we didnt only killed christmas, we also crusified santa and cannibalized the elfs, dont you worry about reindeers

[@fishbread9208]

2:08 "Ronald McDonald goatse" was not something I expected to hear about a Christmas map

[@theconductoresplin8092]

2:27 Bro New meme format just dropped

[@TheWhatShow]

You're welcome

[@theconductoresplin8092]

@@TheWhatShow :D

[@TheRealClaylex]

Honestly am not shocked someone was gonna make another Wutville video. xD

[@TheWhatShow]

It's tradition

[@TheRealClaylex]

@@TheWhatShow If Upward is the eldest bro of payload maps than Wutville is its very ugly no one gives a crap about it stepbrother

[@Jennacide.]

I love Whatville unironically, You used to be able to build sentries inside the trees, and it was honestly my favorite thing for a month in 2020

[@DragonTamerCos]

4:00 missed opportunity for a funny joke about the gulf wars

[@deathawakener]

The sight lines on this map are so bad a sniper hit me from the middle of the map as soon as I left spawn, it should be completely overhauled.

[@alternativewalls4988]

I love wutville just due to how grotesque it is honestly

[@ranibowspr1imkle]

just got the pun. "who"ville, "what"ville, "wut"ville

[@Kernwadi]

"Who am I? I forgot..." -Somebody with dementia

[@Kernwadi]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

[@JoshBattershell]

Not gonna lie, I low key love this map. It reminds me of old school custom maps. I’ve played this map a ton the past few days and the snipers you get in casual typically aren’t that big of an issue. This isn’t a serious map and shouldn’t be taken as such. My only real issue with this map is that payload doesn’t roll backwards at all.

[@majorghoul9017]

To think we got this in the same year as Pier, one of the best new maps we've gotten

[@GFGR1]

spongebob tf2

[@spazmk4t]

i agree

[@Cool_Adrian7]

7f2 7 fortress two

[@eminemweaponreviews]

Even Eminem Weapon reviews has nothing to say, like holy shit dawg

[@TheBoogieMan1997]

Scout, THEY'RE IN THE TREES SCOUT.

[@shamtrue]

People go for seasonal joy, and leave with clinical depression

[@milliman4]

Always a joy when a new TheWutVilleShow video comes out

[@unholymackerel8072]

7:15 OH MY GOD 💀

[@emissne]

whatville. whoever made this map is a sniper main i fuckin bet you 100,000,001 dollars for that

[@thesalvager3020]

Wutville makes the Jim Carrey Grinch set look good. At least the washed out Beijing look doesn't make my eyes bleed figgy pudding and my mouth froth with whipped cream.

[@mattiatf2]

3:38 Bro can thank Scrat for distracting the two seperating continents to slowly decrease his aim

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

I was willing to defend this map's creator for the first 2 years, but the fact that they apparently STILL haven't got around to fixing stuff is just a tad frustrating...

[@funnycatenjoyer2758]

Knowing valve they probably did fix it but valve forgot to actually update the ingame version of the map

[@nuclearcatpotatoe3714]

According to other commetors apparently they did make a better version, and valve just, didn't use it?

[@remix2593]

I've heard previous people say he did fix it, but in typical valve fashion they just didn't implement it, which is strange, cause the creator of snakewater has frequently updated their map and valve kept implementing the changes for it

[@Aanderan]

3:28 the scout was never alive to begin with because that's gmod babey

[@joghnythegurue2710]

To be entirely fair, since its an intentionally goofy, Christmas exclusive map, complaining about the balance and aesthetics of it is like complaining about how OP spell-books are during Scream Fortress.

[@expiredcheerios6086]

i am so glad you clipped the part in 1:17

[@Sam.TheAxolotl]

I love this map very much (not a joke, I genuinely love this map). The Smismass and the old How The Grinch Stole Christmas vibe is all around the map and the many references filled with the place. I love and wish it could run on my PC.

[@mildapachesauce]

@@heavenandhello6629 jesus we get it

[@tylerlackey1175]

I don't think one language gives me enough material to make fun of something like you.

[@theawkwardpotato1973]

4:07 I am convinced this map was made as a “gift” for snipers. XD

[@Pacca64]

The map creator made a silly little fanfiction map in a theme valve had never and seemingly never would include in TF2; christmas maps are an extremely new concept for stock TF2. Several years later, valve haphazardly plucked it from the workshop and the map creator had to scramble to meet valves' expectations. The map was so old, they had to dig to get the source files so they could edit it again. The map was never designed for the rigorous play of pubs, and they had little time to try and fix it. The creator wasn't even a dedicated mapper; they primarily made custom models, which is why the map is so horrendously optimized; they prefered making custom models over using brushes, the later of which makes up most normal maps and are well optimized by Source. Anyone would be honored to have their work chosen by valve to be in the base game. It'd be insane not to follow up on that, not just because of royalty payments (which are a nice bonus), but because it's valve themselves. The map creator is purely innocent, they never intended to get anywhere close to this far, and likely expected the map to go forgotten (which it pretty much did, for several years). It's entirely on valve for picking it and letting it through; that was a dark time for TF2.

[@-Raylight]

Poor janitor and the plant, they accidentally added unfinished map xD

[@vampire_juicebox]

I remember, after not touching TF2 since before Jungle Inferno, I decided to boot it back up in December of 2020, and was instantly met with a game of Wutville full of sniper bots. I'm so thankful for Uncletopia

[@purplehaze2358]

0:23 That cosmetic set may be ugly, but it's also really funny and I love it.

[@mk7875]

I have a thing that, every time i see a horrific done thing like a movie or game, i like to imagine how could be an perfectly done remake of the thing, saving its original aspect, its very satisfying

[@Arakus99]

I somehow misread this as talking about a perfectly done remake of the john carpenter movie The Thing Like every time you see something bad ur imagining how it could be turned into a perfect remake of that movie I need to go to sleep

[@icyyChill]

in my personal opinion my brain is too fried from looking at this map to form an opinion

[@XxguaxinimxX.]

As bad is this map might be, I'm not sure if I could make a better one 😅

[@UndefinedScrap3241]

Found a bot

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@UndefinedScrap3241 I’m not a bot, so it seems like you’re on drugs.

[@UndefinedScrap3241]

@@heavenandhello6629 don't care I seen that comment in Other replies

[@heavenandhello6629]

@@UndefinedScrap3241 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/a17IenxtitqkicU

[@UndefinedScrap3241]

@@heavenandhello6629 no u

[@BenTheMelon]

As someone with ADHD, no. Wutville is not like ADHD. It’s trying to do coursework with ADHD WITHOUT medication (actual hell)

[@totenkopf8814]

2:18 Whatshow? More like the Susshow 💀

[@PigeonofTheFrogs]

Wutville was designed to make you say "WUT?!"

[@totenkopf8814]

7:16 west was speaking the truth on alex jones though 🗿

[@plimkii]

THEWUT!!! I will NEVER!!..and I mean NEVER!! forgive you for playing only sniper on WUTVILLE!!!!!!

[@scrub9986]

I unironically love Wutville, it’s so fun. I can’t explain why.

[@scrub9986]

@@heavenandhello6629 I only wish that I could queue for Wutville all year round, not just during Smissmass. It might actually be my 4th favorite payload map out there.

[@mildapachesauce]

@@heavenandhello6629 jesus we get it

[@smailchali5102]

@@mildapachesauce bro is the personification of the "unwanted commercial content or spam" report in youtube

[@galegopaulista4564]

It's a bad map, but it's a bad with a lot of personality, which makes it hard for me to hate it. I definitely prefer it over a certain lame reskin of a Halloween map we got last year.

[@mangothemike]

Wutville looks like if Batman & Robin was a Christmas movie.

[@John-merman]

Yes

[@stealthtrooper7456]

Whatville is what I imagine when I think of the town from How the Grinch Stole Christmas. It looks like it came out of a Dr. Seuss book

[@Arnie58]

Omg, my favorit youtuber, TheWutvilleShow has uploaded another video

[@renthewerecat]

i had a dream about that weird portal in blu's spawn once

[@medicgaming101]

The best map to come out if you look at how recently tf2 gets updated

[@sticky0159]

Its been a long time since I've played any Christmas themed Holiday maps more than 7 years ago and I was genuinely surprised when I got into Wutville. I thought I got into a random trade server with all the bad textures and random highlights of the map sprawled all over the map. I didn't understand where tf I was going and why the map is so wide and long. Then I tabbed and checked and yep, this is an official map in the queue. Prolly the most headache inducing map I have ever played on the game and I have been to a lot of different map varieties of community trade servers and this is just madness in the form of an official map.

[@PJSproductions97]

They really outdid themselves this year though, they added Frostwatch!

[@xintract]

7:04 oh wow so that really was the real thewhat, i remember that game

[@NoahWood-j1v]

This bullshit gets added but SNOWPLOUGH gets removed because it’s ’too hard for newer players’ Also it’s probably based off of whoville from the grinch Also as someone with adhd it is basically like that

[@WalnutBun]

"I need something to pick up my spirits" might I suggest a nice relaxing round of Wutville

[@Artcat932]

4:50 Pyro is actually insanely overpowered in Wutville, since there’s only one exit on most spawns it makes it really really easy to camp.

[@tonyisreal446]

Also demo could possibly spawncamp blu if you go to last and go on top of the pit and then stickyjump onto the edge near the healthkit once blu capped first

[@heavenandhello6629]

My answers to everyone’s excuses for hating Wutville: “The spawn placements attract spawncamping” Lol, skill issue! NOOB! :D “There are too many open spaces which allows snipers to have a bigger advantage” Lol, skill issue! NOOB! :D “The visuals don’t look like something that belongs in tf2 and should only be a trade map” Too bad so sad! Nothing on Christmas is meant to fit tf2’s artstyle. So deal with it! Otherwise go cry! :D In conclusion, the only thing that Thirteen (the steam name of the creator of Wutville) needs to remove is the fog. And the skill issues also go for you thinking that there’s at least just 1 thing that’s overpowered which includes pyro.

[@Artcat932]

@@heavenandhello6629 yoooo we found thirteen’s alt account

[@Smirving]

@@Artcat932 More like 19 year old

[@ALk-oz5rn]

I got that Pepsi clip. I’m honored to have Mr TheWhat use the clip

[@NovaAge]

It's like a sandbox map, except in matchmaking. _At best_ you could put it under alternative game modes as official tdm. Can't believe my funniest TF2 moment happened in Wutville out of them all.

[@ericmandia3835]

That last spawn for blue is horrible. I played it with some friends and the only reason we were able to get out was because someone distracted the 3-4 snipers while I just charged at them as pyro.

[@Extension_cord11]

They put da Tranzit fog in tf2 hell nah

[@BanditoBruh]

not. cool. dude. *clenches fists in anger* *looks down in disappointment* you should know that Wutville is totes cool beans to the max!

[@squidgetissmall]

6:15 I love this about wutville... Nothing else. I was a Halloween map like what ville. But one of the tunnels when you go in it, it secretly teleports you to the exit of another one (hidden by a bend or something) and make it so nobody knows what's happening. It will be like holdout with an objective (control points) payload would be funnier though

[@bruisedbug]

I dont watch many of your videos but this is definitely one of my favorites. The editing and comedic style reminds me of an old jontron style lol

[@HaydenX]

I saw a "Guide on how to enjoy Wutville" not that long ago which said: "Make your own server, ban Snipers, Demomen, Soldiers, and Engineers, and remove all building textures". Just play a different map. My favorite map in the game is also regularly called a Sniper heaven, and I spend more time on Scout and Pyro than Sniper...Harvest KotH is my favorite map...it's my favorite game mode, I love the Autumn textures, and the map is very open, but not without cover. Harvest is how to do a seasonal map correctly IMO.

[@alchemist3661]

It's a good idea on paper. Whoville as a TF2 map for Christmas is a great idea, but it was very poorly executed

[@dodsonboys]

4:39 one must imagine Heavy and Pyro happy

[@poorlydrawnwizard]

My favorite strat is playing red demo then climbing to last and raining stickies down the mountain

[@fris4484]

Yes, it indeed is what ADHD feels like

[@TheJubberGubb]

A lot of maps bafflingly have that same spawn room problem

[@william3371]

*_“It’s like shooting fish in a barrel”_* - TheWhatShow, December 2022

[@shooey-mcmoss]

I like how this map looks like R'Lyeh so Pyro with Detonator\Thermal Thruster actually feels at home. Because CAMP WITH PHLOG

[@toyfreddygaming]

and yet i still love this broken masterpiece.

[@KriticalSeverity]

I agree with this pro gamer’s message. And yes. This is what ADHD feels like.

[@4luca4900]

NASA probably rates their PCs with seconds before their pc just explodes when wutville is loaded in