MiG-21bis Lazur-M Full Review - Should You Buy It? - The Old Champion Can Still Fight [War Thunder]

[@vronz]

80% of the time, you face 11.7. But that 20% of the time you face 10.0, you will hear your own boss music

[@zak9100]

man this is bad for new players , this is a scam for them. the 11BR+ is not friendly to them ....

[@wesleyarnold4537]

@@zak9100yeah if you don’t already own or have been playing 11.0+ than no one should buy these cash grabs

[@warelite5368]

@@wesleyarnold4537 if ur gonna buy a prem just buy the 9.7-10.0 mig21 sps k

[@wesleyarnold4537]

@@warelite5368 exactly or wait for sale 70$ for a premium pixel plane I could never

[@verscy8726]

@@warelite5368 no, do not buy that thing, i have it and playing 10.0 with either no flares or no gun is a fucking pain in the ass

[@BoleDaPole]

I like how it comes with a jousting pole though I'm not sure how effective it would be in combat.

[@dosidicusgigas1376]

Super Soviet Headon Lance

[@zak9100]

do not believe this guy as a player with 2000 hours lsn to this , if you are a new player this will be hell for you you are going to play vs f14/f16 and you will keep dying . any jet at 11BR is going to be vs f14/16 so only buy things below that . the reason war thunder put those jets is to revive the high tire matches so it wont be f14/16 vs f14/16 match, and after you buy this jet at 11 BR you will want to spend more money to a lower tire jet why? , your dying and not having fun remember? even i , A player with 2000 hours i wont buy those jets . if you all ready bought a jet at 11 BR , i`m so sorry for being late. reach level 3 on aviation and use bombers to grind an event seasons and sell those vehicles and get your self a jet below 11BR :)

[@ee8475]

@@zak9100sounds like a skill issue. I have this and I average 4 kills against f16’s

[@TheoHawk316]

The German Air Tree is mostly East Germany, while the German Ground Tree is mostly West/Modern Day German. It's a completely useless fact but hey, it's cool to know.

[@denislavventsislavov2078]

I always thought German ground could get a t55 or a t72

[@TheoHawk316]

@@denislavventsislavov2078 T-55A absolutely, not sure about the T-72

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

​@@TheoHawk316 T-72M and T-72M1.

[@Simply_Canadian]

​@@TheoHawk316funny how it's the exact opposite now

[@ahyesiamacarnerd1656]

i bought it and i can recommend it if you know what you're doing it's hella fun don't pull so hard and avoid loosing speed and head ons try to flank more those 6 r60mks are really useful (btw try and stay low more than you do usually )

[@zak9100]

do not believe this guy as a player with 2000 hours lsn to this , if you are a new player this will be hell for you you are going to play vs f14/f16 and you will keep dying . any jet at 11BR is going to be vs f14/16 so only buy things below that . the reason war thunder put those jets is to revive the high tire matches so it wont be f14/16 vs f14/16 match, and after you buy this jet at 11 BR you will want to spend more money to a lower tire jet why? , your dying and not having fun remember? even i , A player with 2000 hours i wont buy those jets . if you all ready bought a jet at 11 BR , i`m so sorry for being late. reach level 3 on aviation and use bombers to grind an event seasons and sell those vehicles and get your self a jet below 11BR :)

[@ahyesiamacarnerd1656]

@@zak9100 i mean i never said that i would recommend this to new players (i have 1600 hours) i bought cause i liked the fligh model it feels nimble and is a beautiful jet so idk

[@theplum2706]

@ah yes i am a car nerd don't listen to that noob, he's spamming everywhere to do not buy nothing except the Su-25k

[@grantnewton4515]

@@zak9100 yeah i got it and im getting my ass handed to me by sidewinders and those stupid aim 54s from beyond visual range while i have no way to retaliate, but when she works, by god she works, its been awful but the kills ive been able to manage by notching lone high alt f-14s until they run out of missiles or from over confident gankers makes it worth it for me, i really enjoy not having any crutches and still doing well at times through grit and having to play smart instead of spamming fox 1s from the other side of the engagement lmao, def not for the weak hearted, or those who give up easy, because every single game will be a full up tier

[@alexonblitz9650]

I have 4000 hours and i can say its a good plane

[@RenaBoyAIM9]

Took me a second to notice the plane with that winter camo

[@thiccburgers1259]

popped here rq to say that that thumbnail is GORGEOUS

[@giannycrazy9865]

I like how you can buy a plane within a game for basically the price of a triple a game

[@doud623]

Actually Times infinity the price because the game is free so even a 1$ plane would cost infinity times more

[@danielsantos8229]

@@doud623 read the comment before u reply to it... he says the same price as A TRIPLE A GAME

[@tianhaoju4634]

The LAZUR-M is half decent, considering the rank 6 premium, the SPS-K is in a tricky situation, but...we can say that for any faction other than the US, USSR and China plus maybe Sweden

[@its_ya_gurl_ames4636]

The fact that this plane is more expensive than the Mig 21 Bison on DCS by near £30 is just dumb

[@balthasargelt4075]

Idk why you would spend 70 buckos on anything, get stuff on sale always plus there's good alternatives in the tech tree usually anyways. I didn't want to spend another 30 buckos for a premium for USSR aircraft, especially since I was already at 10.3 thanks to the SU7BMK and me grinding with other vehicles as well so I put a talisman on the Mig 21 SMT for 8 buckos... hell of a deal imo

[@zak9100]

you my friend the future of a business man!

[@dapper2885]

Well if you wait for Christmas its half off and you get to boom through the tech tree with the premium xp and lions. Personally I have not brought it yet but I want to get through the tech tree quickly to play cas

[@blown70charger99]

I wanna get it but I’m almost completely done with the German aircraft tree so it seems wasteful to bother getting it to research like 4 planes

[@CT-7543]

Just get a talisman on one of the rank 7’s especially since they are on sale

[@bfmv-thepoison1347]

Also if you dont care for grinding, its just a fun vehicle overall to run with sl boost benefit.

[@treize6832]

Do you fly with mouse or a HOTAS? Your response and lock/fire times seem to be much quicker than I am getting with it.

[@slovencelj6]

he is flying with mouse and keyboard. Lockk/fire time changes are bcs this video is 11months old and the revorked a lot of stuff sice release (missle rework was quite substancial)

[@jackapu]

8 out of 10 matches you get full uptired to 12.0... not gonna play again until 12.3 br air plane shows up

[@JamesStewartenjoyer]

I don’t know how long I’ve been playing war thunder but I think I started towards the end of 2021

[@NoobyEditsHD]

I bought it but only to grind out the german tech tree. It is a great and very fast plane but 70€ is still too much for a copy paste vehicle.

[@orang7789]

i’ve killed a few mig 29s with this. the f14 spray and pray missiles are still annoying tho

[@romanboi3115]

"Bbbbut! Roshian Bias means I need muh 6 free kill missiles!!!!!!" Fredombouhs are annoying

[@AFlyingSwive]

if you dont have the nation's tier 6, or the tier 6 is worse tier for tier, the tier 7 Premium are fine.

[@nuclear3011]

for me it's sad that we came to this point where a premium is a copy paste of a top-tier vehicle also, 1 minute ago, damn

[@Frisher1]

We aren't going to get original premiums sadly until we get to the F22 era planes

[@BoleDaPole]

Gaijin needs to make money somehow. After the boom of 2020 they had to expand offices and now that people went back to work they don't have funds to cover the new workers so they need to milk the cows that didn't run away.

[@ГригорийПротченко-н9р]

it's a feature of this time period, there aren't that many planes aside superpowers as minor nations almost stopped to develop their own aviation industry and generally focused on limited types of aircraft in usage. It's hard to develop an indeginious fighter and even harder to develop a good one. But the big two have a big list of prototypes for premiums.

[@Bozo-ish]

They didn't really have options for germany so this was their best pick, its still the best grinder if you don't want to bomb

[@PullinOutDa9]

Did they nerf these rockets since the video came out cuz mine never hit as much as yours do😂

[@unbekanntgeschaeftlich7134]

Where can I get this skin?

[@steffent.6477]

"Never designed for CAS". Meanwhile Mig-21s in Warno in historical loadouts with every ground weapon avaible...

[@Ram-bone]

Do you plan on doing a video going over what is the best rank 7 premium plane?

[@timmuller6915]

Where you got that camouflage?

[@Deenio]

thinking of getting this to grind germany, already got the g91R4 but find the gameplay really slow even though I average 3-4 kills a game, looking for something fast pace. is this worth it or is there a better premium for Germany? open to store vehicles too

[@RIPSLAY3R]

This one is the best german grinder

[@viperr393]

You have more subscribers than Defyn and he has a link and decal now. You should be able to get one by now.

[@Tankenstein]

Gaijin has a rule currently where I have to meet something like 20k views on average for my videos released within a month or two period. I don't know if they've always had that, but it appears that I don't currently meet it

[@maplemike8496]

i might buy a german premium jet in the next sale but im not sure if i should buy the mig 21 sps k for 30 euros or the mig 21 lazur m for 70 euros

[@zak9100]

mig 21 sps. never get any jet at 11BR . i have 2000 hours of game play and i wont grind any tec tree with a 11BR , those jets made to revive the high tire f14/16 vs f14/16 . and after you spend that money you will need to get a lower tire jet because of how hard it is .

[@zacamakapaka3989]

@@zak9100 ur comment only matters if the player is low level. I’m only level 68 and I managed to reach the f-14 in one week with the a-6e tram and premium account and I’m now up to the mig 21 bis and f4f in Germany with this after just one day starting with up to 5,0 researched. A good player can do very well

[@valrond]

I'll buy all the tier 7 premiums... when on 50% sale. 70 euro is just too much (well, 68 with the 3% discount).

[@joshmccalip6053]

The Huckebein skin.

[@FanOfCartoonz]

They need to add the German MiG 29 to the tech tree, that would really help Germany!

[@ahyesiamacarnerd1656]

either that or a f16 just something other than the tornado

[@ГригорийПротченко-н9р]

@@ahyesiamacarnerd1656 they didn't use the f-16. Didn't need to.

[@vavord5181]

@@ГригорийПротченко-н9р they could've got, for example, Belgian F-16 ashow German TT got Austrian Cuirrassier tank

[@cmdrfrosty3985]

I think the mig29 will come very soon for Germany considering that Russia already has a more advanced mig 29 than the Germans had (Germany won't have the fat back mig29). As far as I'm aware the Germans only operated a small number of mig 29s and only of the types 9-12 and mig29ub which is the trainer. So truth be told we could get it as soon as next patch

[@CanIgetsubsforsellingbathwater]

They don’t need anything else, they already get the Russian and American aircraft

[@krychakopania_games]

Should i buy it or no(im lvl50 im pretty good in planes but i have never played ina jet against another player,i also can shot missiles and i have some skill from test flying)

[@neogamer210]

get to jets first

[@corg78]

$70 = full AAA game. Here you only get a virtual vehicle that eventually would be outdated. If you buy it, wait until 50% off.

[@ryanwarkentin4706]

How do u think this would do in sim battles playing it as a fighter/interceptor role?

[@Mr.Crow1984]

If played my fair share pf sim with the mig 21 mf and bis sau. They are mid to low tier. All other aircraft out range with the missiles and radars they have. This is even worst if you take into account you dont have a gun hud, meaning that you have to spot targets with your eyes even if you radar lock them.

[@Mr.Crow1984]

TLDR: dont recommend it that muc. Suprisingly the j7d seems to be a better option due to its missiles and the gunsight hud

[@johnmandato344]

Wish I could still get this skin

[@gameroscar2165]

Should i get the j7d? i wanna grind the chinese Air tech tree

[@BlueO722]

I’ve hear the a5c is better both plane have the exact same rp booster but the a5c has a higher sl booster aswell also the a5c has higher sl repair cost

[@LordRidler]

If this exists, why should i buy that Tornado?

[@Bozo-ish]

it has better rewards in the long term if u want to bomb

[@Arthur_Neves]

Ok so for some reason now pvkv2 has ammo in all the racks no matter how much you choose to carry, i hope this is just a bug bcz if gayjin had intentionally did it to "balance" it ill freak out, i mean only survivability of it is to stay just with your turret out

[@Dairyking-og2lk]

I had the same problem with the Churchill crocodile

[@nonnykarpalt1552]

Om watching this but i cant eaven buy any of The packs

[@vanrooyenstv]

its a good jet but theres the mig23 or mirage

[@zak9100]

just get the mig 21 sps at 10 BR

[@superiorsloth4677]

I am completely with saying the F4-F should be used as cas bc there is no other aircraft I hate more using than that at dogfighting

[@daeveddd7140]

But does germany still suffer?

[@BoleDaPole]

Yes, especially rank 3 and 4 ground RB and the bf109 needs a buff too

[@viniciussccz]

germany is by far the best at rank 3 and 4@@BoleDaPole

[@jimmyjazz166]

New p2w players in premium planes are just free kills

[@ahyesiamacarnerd1656]

it is profitable but it is not p2w

[@Sladka_Mrkev.33]

Can i use MiG-21 SPS-K or Lazur M to bomb bases?

[@leoncaspari745]

So you dont really need a Pilot in the Plane in Real Life to fly it

[@leoncaspari745]

If i understood it right do you think it would 2 op that when the Pilot is dead you could try to fly it back to the airfield of course without using the weapon or countermesures and sorry for my Bad english skills im German

[@Austrium1483]

Why are all the special camos Czech? Kinda lame tbh

[@jordanpayne2213]

Got here early

[@oz314]

Nice plane but no reason to play it outside the USSR tree

[@null643]

This sounds like an advertisement.

[@Clay_-zh5ol]

I need money

[@zak9100]

as a player with 2000 hours lsn to this , if you are a new player this will be hell for you you are going to play vs f14/f16 and you will keep dying . any jet at 11BR is going to be a lot of times vs f14/16 so only buy things below that BR . the reason war thunder put those jets is to revive the high tire matches so it wont be f14/16 vs f14/16 match, and after you buy this jet at 11 BR you will want to spend more money to a lower tire jet why? , your dying and not having fun remember? even i , A player with 2000 hours i wont buy those jets . if you all ready bought a jet at 11 BR , i`m so sorry for being late. reach level 3 on aviation and use bombers to grind an event seasons and sell those vehicles and get your self a jet below 11BR :)

[@theplum2706]

Only noobs like you, after wasting 2000, constantly lose against the F-14/16 spam. People who knows what do to can enjoy top tier. You're not entitled to say to others how to spend their money.

[@Wandhydrantt]

I am rank 6 Germany and I live playing the mig-15bis. But it takes way too long to Research new planes, so I thought about buying it when it goes on 50% sale. Do you think it will be faster ?

[@MilesK1308]

too late, had it for 2 weeks...

[@MyNameIs_Chris]

pfft... Sense of accomplishment?

[@davidjurica3893]

guys dont buy it its shit

[@cc.tonyyy]

is it fr i started German tree alr and im rank V

[@zacamakapaka3989]

How do you get the snow smoke for your wings?