The BEST SMGs in Black Ops 6? | (Full SMG Stat Comparison)

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@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын
One Key Correction! The PP-919 TTK values stated in the chart got messed up for the 6 and 7 shot ranges. Instead of 544ms, these values are: 6 Shot kill: 480ms 7 Shot Kill: 576ms
@alexmaurice4274
@alexmaurice4274 Ай бұрын
Do u think there’s like any redeeming factor for the pp? I feel since almost all the guns can run a extendo with zero downsides it’s not like-worth running ever
@karritgaming1834
@karritgaming1834 Ай бұрын
Could you cover the knife where you get stun when shot at I don't see anyone else talk about
@OGMoonieReacts
@OGMoonieReacts Ай бұрын
whats the ttk on the PP919 with rapid fire?
@MrKing-he3eo
@MrKing-he3eo Ай бұрын
​@@OGMoonieReactslike 258ms for the 4 shot kill
@zmanrko12
@zmanrko12 Ай бұрын
​@alexmaurice4274 For me its the recoil. This is the only smg that kinda fits the smg/ar style of gun.
@steerj07
@steerj07 Ай бұрын
I find SMG's absolutely shocking on this game. If an enemy is more than 5m away, I swear my bullets heal them.
@trels203
@trels203 Ай бұрын
Nerf blasters i swear
@deagle2yadome696
@deagle2yadome696 Ай бұрын
that’s absolute cap
@deagle2yadome696
@deagle2yadome696 Ай бұрын
@@trels203skill issue + cap
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Highwaysonyfan87
@Highwaysonyfan87 Ай бұрын
Most definitely a skill issue. I use mainly SMG’s and the C9, PP-919, and Tanto can still challenge Assault Rifles at range reliably. In fact, I do best on ANY map typically with a tanto and C9 for the strike maps
@ParkesyBeams
@ParkesyBeams Ай бұрын
The head shot damage multiplied in this game is criminal.
@wingbm
@wingbm Ай бұрын
Especially considering how hard it is to hit headshots with the new movement. You’d think they would reward headshots as a skill thing
@N8ivAN1mal
@N8ivAN1mal Ай бұрын
And with the amount of head glitch spots, you’d think if ur aim was good u could still contest these power positions… but it’s way to hard when u need so many bullets in the head to kill
@isaacdayton4962
@isaacdayton4962 Ай бұрын
@@wingbmit’s fucking weird. Like the movement has allowed for a much higher skill ceiling but at the same time they have reduced the skill ceiling by quite a bit by making headshots useless it’s so weird and it’s just a shitty change
@taylorgander1966
@taylorgander1966 Ай бұрын
Headshots in cod are too random to give a big boost. There’s also the issue where flinch directly leads to headshots
@isaacdayton4962
@isaacdayton4962 Ай бұрын
@@taylorgander1966 genuinely dumb opinion. Losing headshot damage over a few minor issues is dumb. Not having headshots dealing more damage is worse especially with Omni movement
@PapaJoJ
@PapaJoJ Ай бұрын
6:40 is one good reason why I still follow these stat videos. You can never trust what the devs say even when it comes to numbers
@jeffreystangojr
@jeffreystangojr Ай бұрын
The Tanto 22 with rapid fire is so much fun. Really enjoying it so far.
@madzaisa
@madzaisa Ай бұрын
It is. Without it it feels like enemies can just walk between bullets. Also bad hitget hits it really hard. Like getting 3 hitmarkers point blank, while, according to stats it's just impossible not to kill with 3 hits.
@joelheidrich8779
@joelheidrich8779 Ай бұрын
@@jeffreystangojr just takes 38 levels to unlock it 🤦‍♂️
@jeffreystangojr
@jeffreystangojr Ай бұрын
@ they seem to do that with a lot of good attachments. The snipers aren’t even usable until you unlock the target laser and you don’t get that until 17 on the Frostline and 30+ on the other 2
@Th3DarkCanuck
@Th3DarkCanuck Ай бұрын
That's the first gun I maxed rank. It's a fun gun.
@kaixuan3167
@kaixuan3167 Ай бұрын
I remember the Jackle PDW was kind of good in Beta, then heard it got nerf right away. MX9: "That sounds familiar."
@lordkira9791
@lordkira9791 Ай бұрын
it was prob the best weapon in the beta it's the weapon pros will go to if pp ever gets nerfed though but its definitely balanced (at least from what ive seen for now though)
@dalberttran8134
@dalberttran8134 Ай бұрын
Damn the mx9 from bo4 what a blast from the past
@Sikiatric
@Sikiatric Ай бұрын
Treyarch gave Jackal the Razorback treatment
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 Ай бұрын
It wasn't kind of good, it was the best gun in the meta(beta)
@jfr1995
@jfr1995 Ай бұрын
Jackal is still pretty good tbh. I find it feels pretty similar to the KSV
@FoxTheBrian
@FoxTheBrian Ай бұрын
Someone else commented on the PP’s popularity with the pros and I think it may also have to do with how drastically the fast mag attachments help its handling stats, especially considering they’re sort of free attachments on it as compared to other smgs.
@li_moody0038
@li_moody0038 Ай бұрын
They gone stop using it soon
@justinq73
@justinq73 Ай бұрын
Reminds me of mp7 in mw2
@davidschmidt7830
@davidschmidt7830 Ай бұрын
@@li_moody0038y u say that?
@chasewilliams3128
@chasewilliams3128 Ай бұрын
@@davidschmidt7830it’s range is going to get nerfed in season one asap
@li_moody0038
@li_moody0038 Ай бұрын
@@davidschmidt7830 not better than the jackal or the mp5 honestly but it's still useable. A majority of the pros are going to use the jackal
@i_amChrisJxmes
@i_amChrisJxmes Ай бұрын
The fact that headshots on the smgs don’t do more damage when they are literally forcing us to get headshots for camos is literally insane.
@LeoJinx01
@LeoJinx01 Ай бұрын
Agreed also sucks bc at range you would think it would be the xfactor for beating a guy w an assault rifle but it really doesnt change anything at range so you end up dying even if you hit the guy 6 timesw headshots added in
@mrlolhead
@mrlolhead Ай бұрын
"forcing" 😂😂😂
@zacbranch2083
@zacbranch2083 Ай бұрын
Its pretty wild, even the headshot barrel seems to impact only a handful of guns. I mean technically you are doing more damage with both headshots and with headshots while using the barrel, but if the shots to kill remains the same then practically speaking its hardly worth it.
@Scaccia8
@Scaccia8 Ай бұрын
@@zacbranch2083shots to kill with the chef barrel remain the same until you start getting out of the optimal range of the gun. It doesn’t turn a 4 headshot gun into a 3 headshot gun, but if that same gun kills in 6 headshots further down range then the barrel helps carry full damage of the headshot and will end up still getting the kill in 4 headshots instead of 6.
@MuscledRMHv2
@MuscledRMHv2 Ай бұрын
I really dont like their decision to make headshots almost useless
@IronSpiderGaming
@IronSpiderGaming Ай бұрын
This video seems to prove my suspicions that the main reason that the pros and other above average players have been drawn to the pp919 is almost purely due to its lack of recoil and above average damage range for an smg as it doesn’t really excel anywhere else upon first glance.
@bobthebuilder9509
@bobthebuilder9509 Ай бұрын
IIRC accuracy has always been favored above all else by pros. In BO4, if I’m not mistaken, pros tended to use the ICR-7 for its laser beam recoil.
@lordkira9791
@lordkira9791 Ай бұрын
it's easy to use and can contend against ars in longer ranges than other smgs. pdw does it well as well but it def is worse than pp in almost everyway and its recoil is slightly more (it's really not bad at all even with nerf though)
@deathtrooper2048
@deathtrooper2048 Ай бұрын
​@bobthebuilder9509 Cause that's an AR, that also was able to get headshots to reduce the ttk. For SMGs it was the Saug that was mainly used.
@Adam-pk7go
@Adam-pk7go Ай бұрын
The pros probably GA’d a few of the other options already
@IronSpiderGaming
@IronSpiderGaming Ай бұрын
@@Adam-pk7goI haven’t seen them G/A any smgs yet only ars but who knows lol
@trevorwebb8185
@trevorwebb8185 Ай бұрын
The c9 is my go to right now. Not reached max level yet, but for some reason it feels so smooth.
@Kyle-nm1kh
@Kyle-nm1kh Ай бұрын
I like C9 too but I'm trying to level up the Jackal now.
@rafalchodowiec7057
@rafalchodowiec7057 Ай бұрын
Yea c9 is smooth
@Kyle-nm1kh
@Kyle-nm1kh Ай бұрын
Update: I don't like the Jackal. C9 is better. Trying to level up the Tanto now. Has potential.
@mediawarrior5957
@mediawarrior5957 Ай бұрын
PP919 looks like a SMG for Zombies, you need a good high mag capacity for hordes.
@FoxtrotWTA
@FoxtrotWTA Ай бұрын
Pack a punched it has 256 bullets it's kinda nuts 😂
@Neockoen
@Neockoen Ай бұрын
@@FoxtrotWTApp-bizon, for when you only want to, and need to reload twice a game
@HarveyPrice-h8t
@HarveyPrice-h8t Ай бұрын
Pp919 is the best smg in the game, ttk falls a bit short compared to other smgs, but with rapid fire its ttk it comparable to the c9, and it has much more range. It can challenge ars even, the pro players are discussing a GA for it.
@brettstephens6853
@brettstephens6853 Ай бұрын
Only gun I use and I have a 3.19 k/d
@benj4840
@benj4840 Ай бұрын
It honestly doesn’t even need rapid fire
@QxeeN.
@QxeeN. Ай бұрын
My favorite SMG is the KSV. It shreds!
@SavaJeZz
@SavaJeZz Ай бұрын
no wonder the KSV felt two-faced...7+ shots to kill >15m 😭
@youngmoneyclutch
@youngmoneyclutch Ай бұрын
real
@ESKATEUK
@ESKATEUK Ай бұрын
Most balanced weapon roster of any cod game since black ops 2.
@penniesmakedollars1720
@penniesmakedollars1720 Ай бұрын
I agree 🎯 just hope they bring back some of the maps from BO 2 like standoff and hi jacked
@Neockoen
@Neockoen Ай бұрын
I love MW 2019, but there were only like 3 meta guns at any given time, the rest were borderline underpowered. BO 6 feels great so far
@ESKATEUK
@ESKATEUK Ай бұрын
@ me too big fan of mw2019, but I would say bo6 is more balanced. Will this be the first year I prefer a recent call of duty over mw2019? Let’s see 👀
@langcheng4480
@langcheng4480 Ай бұрын
Is this comment section delusional? Haven't y'all tried the slugs and the aek973? These two can compete for the most broken overpowered shit in COD history
@Bandxit
@Bandxit Ай бұрын
Expect for the fkn tanto 22. That thing kills in 3 shots. And it's a 22LR. Makes no sense
@Ron742_
@Ron742_ Ай бұрын
These SMGs are having a mid off.
@rundown132
@rundown132 Ай бұрын
AR gang rise up
@Ghosdeth
@Ghosdeth Ай бұрын
Honestly it's about time lmao. So tired of everyone running smgs in every game
@DangOldRegularOld
@DangOldRegularOld Ай бұрын
PP90M1 Is insanely consistent when you get some attachments on it.
@BK-ih8tz
@BK-ih8tz Ай бұрын
Just started leveling this gun. What are your suggested attachments for pp 19?
@benj4840
@benj4840 Ай бұрын
I’ll let you know when I get home it’s my favorite smg
@TheDC-ks3tw
@TheDC-ks3tw Ай бұрын
We need to talk about how there is no counter to recon and how it’s broken on the super small maps.
@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын
Video is finished and scheduled
@TheDC-ks3tw
@TheDC-ks3tw Ай бұрын
@@TheXclusiveAce sooooooooooooooooooooo glad you acknowledged this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheDC-ks3tw
@TheDC-ks3tw Ай бұрын
@@TheXclusiveAce definitely looking forward to what your thoughts are on this! :)
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD Ай бұрын
​@@TheXclusiveAce also vigilance perk completely countering sleeper agent is so broken, and destroys any usefulness of the field upgrade
@XxCorvette1xX
@XxCorvette1xX Ай бұрын
The counter is: don’t stand still
@Potato_n_Tomato
@Potato_n_Tomato Ай бұрын
I dont mind the damage drop off. But the movement is almost identical to Assualt rifles. The ADS Strafe speeds for SMG are pitiful. Not being able to out maneuver ARs and contest against Head glitch areas makes them lacking
@redbaskett
@redbaskett Ай бұрын
What's up Ace, my name is Guys!
@peabrain6872
@peabrain6872 Ай бұрын
You represent all of us, guys
@LEGENDofBEANY
@LEGENDofBEANY Ай бұрын
Guys is, name my Ace!
@trevorbye6965
@trevorbye6965 Ай бұрын
Up my Ace, Guy’s name is What’s!
@spartanheffs9306
@spartanheffs9306 Ай бұрын
Good one 😂
@AC-hj9tv
@AC-hj9tv Ай бұрын
Hello Mr Guys
@SquirtMac17
@SquirtMac17 Ай бұрын
Reason the PP-919 is slo slow is because there’s 2 mags that speed it up significantly and honestly the way to run it. I’m glad they did this nice to see mag changes for a bizon type gun.
@CheesyCasserole
@CheesyCasserole Ай бұрын
The Kompakt 92 is my absolute favorite. Put the 40 round mag on it and it rips. No ones using it either given the high level requirement
@Anyting9OnTopGrrr
@Anyting9OnTopGrrr Ай бұрын
Bro I feel like no one has realised how absolutely flippin disgusting the kompakt is on pretty much all maps other than vorkuta, red card and scud. The enemies don't even have time to react if u catch them within smg range. I'm actually convinced its getting nerfed soon enough
@Celtics813
@Celtics813 Ай бұрын
It feels absolutely dogshit after shotgun range tho
@CheesyCasserole
@CheesyCasserole Ай бұрын
@@Celtics813 you have to just understand/accept that its just a close range ripper and thats it. try to avoid mid range gunfights at all cost, bc up close it should win almost always
@AC-hj9tv
@AC-hj9tv Ай бұрын
​@@Celtics813use ar then
@TheRealKingLeopoldII
@TheRealKingLeopoldII Ай бұрын
I'm a bit surprised that their ranges are so bad tbh. I've been getting quite a bit of kills at longer ranges with the C9 and the Tanto.
@timothywhalen4350
@timothywhalen4350 Ай бұрын
As a hardcore player online. The Tanto is a beast.
@AC-hj9tv
@AC-hj9tv Ай бұрын
True. HC kings unite
@nicel3908
@nicel3908 Ай бұрын
TTK according to the bullets (body): - C9 + RapidFire = max 231 ms, min 462 ms - KSV + RapidFire = max 210 ms, min 490 ms - TANTO + RapidFire = max 241 ms, min 483 ms - PP919 + RapidFire = max 257 ms, min 515 ms - JACKAL + RapidFire = max 248 ms, min 497 ms - KOMPAKT + RapidFire = max 204 ms, min 459 ms - KOMPAKT (without RapidFire) = max 219 ms to 494 ms Formula: (100 / dmg_per_bullet) + 0.99999 = bullets_to_kill (60000 / rate_of_fire) * (bullets_to_kill - 1) = real_ttk_by_bullets In my opinion, the best option is KOMPAKT without RapidFire (because of too much recoil). However, if you can play with RapidFire, it will be the best weapon for sure
@95mayfield
@95mayfield Ай бұрын
Nice needed a video with lunch. Lol
@OfficerQuaalude
@OfficerQuaalude Ай бұрын
What are you having for lunch
@95mayfield
@95mayfield Ай бұрын
@ street tacos man. Had to get something after sbmm bent me over all morning.
@emwols
@emwols Ай бұрын
The smgs are so insanely close as far as TTK goes throughout all of their ranges it’s kind of crazy
@Disdain7133
@Disdain7133 Ай бұрын
I finally unlocked the pp-919. Can't wait to use it.
@sullentamp9140
@sullentamp9140 Ай бұрын
In HC the Tanto is actually a LMG in disguise as a SMG, and I couldn’t be happier
@mckinleyostvig7135
@mckinleyostvig7135 Ай бұрын
Not sure why but using the Tanto it felt RIDICULOUSLY good. By far my fastest gold gun so far.
@XxCorvette1xX
@XxCorvette1xX Ай бұрын
Because it’s the most overpowered gun in the game by a mile
@Enlightenment99
@Enlightenment99 Ай бұрын
Based blacklight retribution pfp
@cptobvious1228
@cptobvious1228 Ай бұрын
Finally, i was waiting for this video 🤙
@markpangilinan7770
@markpangilinan7770 Ай бұрын
I haven’t used an SMG in BO6, but if there’s one to choose out of the six, then it would be the C9. Competitive TTK, and decent handling and mobility. That’s what my thoughts are.
@DZSherpa
@DZSherpa Ай бұрын
I love how the firing range has its own "Ace patch" that drops down to monitor recoil. Gone are the days of having to use the building in Grazna Raid near the playground
@anonymoushuman8962
@anonymoushuman8962 5 күн бұрын
I don’t usually play with SMGs. Trying to get diamonds for them. However I am really enjoying the KOMPACT. I go with precision foregrip, long barrel, extended mags 2 and square thermal scope. Sometimes run with rapid file. Point blank kills are always 100% a win for me. It’s insane.
@EASTASIANLEGENDS-mw7ee
@EASTASIANLEGENDS-mw7ee Ай бұрын
Great stuff, dude. Can’t wait to watch your individual gun guides.
@RyanKenny92
@RyanKenny92 Ай бұрын
Jackal PDW for me is the best SMG, C9 is pretty solid too 👌🏽
@zero11010
@zero11010 Ай бұрын
New to the game and to call of duty multiplayer. Incredible detail, man. I also really enjoyed the production quality with the text color changes. This is overwhelming for a new player. I’m trying to absorb some of the high level points. Still, I appreciate the work that goes into this!
@willhutton1516
@willhutton1516 Ай бұрын
Swat 556 is a high-risk high-reward gun. Incredible TTK on a 1-burst, but punishing if you miss it.
@TrevorStruthers
@TrevorStruthers Ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping doing this!
@jacobkindsvatter4055
@jacobkindsvatter4055 25 күн бұрын
The PP919 with the extended mag 2 is freaking awesome for zombies, once it gets pack a punched it has 200 round magazines and reloads 10x faster than any LMG
@Hoserzzz
@Hoserzzz 23 күн бұрын
In spite of all of its downsides, the bizon feels way way better than all the other SMGs. Rapid fire is a free attachment basically so you get a reasonable ttk, good range, a huge mag, and reasonable handling with a good build
@delusional-x7f
@delusional-x7f Ай бұрын
Dude thank you I been waiting 😭
@railasvuo
@railasvuo Ай бұрын
I got a pp19 last night and I think it's the best smg so far. Especially with a long barrel. And I got good kills with it even on a long distance
@CalebMay-bf1ci
@CalebMay-bf1ci Ай бұрын
It gets outgunned up close
@sesuneiro
@sesuneiro Ай бұрын
​@@CalebMay-bf1ciand outguns all smgs from mid range so it balances it out, reminds me of the ripper from ghosts while in its ar mode
@benj4840
@benj4840 Ай бұрын
Nah not if you’re quick and accurate it has really goood damage
@billybob6149
@billybob6149 Ай бұрын
I’m surprised the pp is bottom of the pack considering it was meta the first few days in the pro scene
@benj4840
@benj4840 Ай бұрын
Just movement wise it’s good damage and range rise it’s my personal fav smg got a kill chain on stakeout because of the mag
@proxy4233
@proxy4233 3 күн бұрын
it was meta because the game was brand new and people didn’t even know what meta was
@ignaciorodriguez6175
@ignaciorodriguez6175 Ай бұрын
I know you don’t play hardcore, but I’d highly appreciate if you included hardcore stats as well! I’m getting a ton of hit markers so I’m curious as to what’s causing/which guns are better for HC etc
@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын
Hardcore stats will be covered in the Gun Guides series
@Adam-pk7go
@Adam-pk7go Ай бұрын
Hc hp is 22, and a lot of guns drop off below that, smgs especially. The lack of headshot multiplier also means you cant one tap to the head even.
@TheDSSlayer
@TheDSSlayer Ай бұрын
@@Adam-pk7go no shot is it actually 22? its crazy to think that most AR at rang ewont do that
@thelazyduck9370
@thelazyduck9370 Ай бұрын
@@Adam-pk7go Not that I dont believe you, because my experience backs this up, but from where do you know it's 22?
@Adam-pk7go
@Adam-pk7go Ай бұрын
@@thelazyduck9370 you can see the damage taken at the top right when you die. It doesn’t exceed your total health unless you heal midway through the fight. You can also just look at damage values. The kompakt cant one shot in hc, and it does 20 to the body and 21 to the head, so hc health must be more than that. The gpr can 1 shot in its max damage range at 10m doing 23 dmg, but cant 1 shot past, where it drops off to 21 damage.
@macleod1592
@macleod1592 Ай бұрын
I'm really liking the C9.... I put the barrel on that extends damage range and I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's currently my favorite SMG
@LuisAngel-ir2ju
@LuisAngel-ir2ju Ай бұрын
How’s the recoil?
@macleod1592
@macleod1592 Ай бұрын
@LuisAngel-ir2ju once you put the compensator and the vert grip on, it's very accurate.
@1GodExist
@1GodExist Ай бұрын
Love these type videos
@Xo_NightShade
@Xo_NightShade Ай бұрын
Great video as always! It would be awesome if you do one of these for the marksman rifles 🍻
@jackspencer-jg2jy
@jackspencer-jg2jy Ай бұрын
Loving your work Good Sir... Please keep it up
@ReboyGTR
@ReboyGTR Ай бұрын
*The C9 (MP5) seem to be the most balanced.*
@benj4840
@benj4840 Ай бұрын
That is usually the MP5/equivalent is it’s like the XM4
@FlameDragon72
@FlameDragon72 Ай бұрын
It's so strange that the two SMGs with the slowest up close TTK (Tanto/PP19) have been by far the SMGs I've used the most so far. The range/handling makes up for that lower TTK for sure.
@UnatMar
@UnatMar Ай бұрын
I would rather SMGs have consistent TTK over range vs now where you kill instantly in close range an almost double at longer ranges
@Aspect46
@Aspect46 Ай бұрын
Great vid chris ❤
@ReignHyena
@ReignHyena 22 күн бұрын
They really need to up the head shot multiplier, it would reward players for better aim and make the gunplay feel much better in my opinion
@zaccarman6683
@zaccarman6683 Ай бұрын
Tanto second slowest ttk yet best feeling smg.
@isaacscott5459
@isaacscott5459 Ай бұрын
Glad I did my diamond SMG’s first. The headshots were BRUTAL and I really noticed the damage falloff after certain ranges.
@ppsh41
@ppsh41 Ай бұрын
Tanto w/ Rapid Fire is mega lethal, easily one of the best guns in the game. Insane TTK
@1011mweiland
@1011mweiland Ай бұрын
Just in time for my SMG grind!
@S1D3RAL
@S1D3RAL Ай бұрын
It's funny you addressed the firing range recoil plate. Your first video I thought exactly that and then immediately thought oh yeah that's likely shit like quite a few things in this version. Not getting a headshot bonus is wild for the smgs
@Tiresmoke7
@Tiresmoke7 Ай бұрын
I like the KSV the most , however I have not unlocked them all yet.
@2828moises
@2828moises Ай бұрын
ksv is my baby rn not gonna lie hits nice
@carter9543
@carter9543 Ай бұрын
3:30 reminds me of the white box vans from ghosts where you did your recoil testing back then
@vondoge7146
@vondoge7146 Ай бұрын
the Kompakt is an absolute monster, was so fun camo grinding it
@LunchTimeYT
@LunchTimeYT Ай бұрын
Seems like another year of AR dominance 😢
@castkeyboard
@castkeyboard Ай бұрын
All I see are xm4
@joelheidrich8779
@joelheidrich8779 Ай бұрын
Aside from at barrel stuffing ranges some of the lmgs are more competitive with the AR than the smg. Still get dissolved by quick scopers though 😂
@Boxeater888
@Boxeater888 Ай бұрын
They need to nerf the XM4 every single lobby i play is full of them even on the face off maps. It fires way too fast for how accurate it is, if they nerf the fire rate a bit it should bring it into line
@joelheidrich8779
@joelheidrich8779 Ай бұрын
@@Boxeater888 especially as the first weapon available to be that consistent and accurate, small nerf on fire rate would be great.
@potapotapotapotapotapota
@potapotapotapotapotapota Ай бұрын
@@castkeyboard of course that's all you see because most people are still lvl 1
@insecurecomb1822
@insecurecomb1822 Ай бұрын
Finally you can educate people so people can stop claiming sbmm damage when trying to map with a smg!
@xXMIKENOVAXx
@xXMIKENOVAXx Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video 🔥
@Pyraxxis
@Pyraxxis Ай бұрын
At launch I spent a good bit of time maxing out the Tanto as it’s my go-to….followed closely by the C9. Using the Gunfighter perk really helps level the playing field in many cases depending on what attachments are chosen.
@benj4840
@benj4840 Ай бұрын
If you don’t use a sight and I wouldn’t recommend laser unless Challenges you only get one extra attachment, which is nice, but might aswell chuck on PEK greed ghost or ninja any perk 2 flak and tac
@StalinBeWallin
@StalinBeWallin Ай бұрын
I knew SMGs had absolutely horrible ranges, I was getting hitmarkers with the Tanto and PP919 in hardcore with headshots!
@philliprokkas195
@philliprokkas195 Ай бұрын
Hip fire spread is what I’m most interested in. I don’t want to use a laser
@TacticalReaper56
@TacticalReaper56 Ай бұрын
I knew i wasnt tripping testing the headshot barrels. They really do fk all for it. Range it is.
@TheShapeshifter
@TheShapeshifter Ай бұрын
Man they really nerfed the SMG damage ranges in this game didn't they?
@alexmaurice4274
@alexmaurice4274 Ай бұрын
Best cod ttk since ww2 and iw change my mind
@Merty1388
@Merty1388 29 күн бұрын
Tanto is a headshot monster, with CHF barrel you can two tap which is insane. I wouldn't use rapid fire, it's not worth it since you will lose accuracy of 2 taps.
@KurisuHan
@KurisuHan Ай бұрын
Getting these diamond was painful against all the AR grinders and the horrendously big maps. Even in face off it’s AR cross map spam or shotgun 1 tap. C9/PP919 were the only ones I felt like stood a chance. (Mouse and keyboard player)
@jacobmcclure669
@jacobmcclure669 Ай бұрын
Please do LMGs next! This is one of the first cods i find myself gravitated to the big guns
@kgmkr800
@kgmkr800 Ай бұрын
I like the C9. I got gold camo opening weekend.
@shmoggy417
@shmoggy417 Ай бұрын
Ace make a video on RECON!
@TheXclusiveAce
@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын
Already done and scheduled for when I’m busy moving
@shmoggy417
@shmoggy417 Ай бұрын
@TheXclusiveAce Thanks! The word needs need to get out lol
@inflatablepeas6649
@inflatablepeas6649 Ай бұрын
Surprised by this because the PP19 has been a consistent monster for me even in sweaty lobbies. I guess it’s the dmg range
@somerandomgamer1260
@somerandomgamer1260 Ай бұрын
It’s actually insane that after 146 years they still can’t figure out how to make the pro/con list and detailed stats actually accurate. TGD does it, Ace does it, Sym does it, why can’t the multibillion dollar company do it?
@benj4840
@benj4840 Ай бұрын
PP19 is my personal favorite super strong reliable and consistent and mag size gets me quads and kill chains etc. after that I don’t have a strong 2nd I don’t like most of the other subs but if I had to pick one probably the KSV. ARs are insane like all of em tbh
@adamdankson448
@adamdankson448 Ай бұрын
I’ve always been an aim for the head guy in every cod I play and the criminal lack of extra damage to the head with most guns combined with headshot camo challenges has def decreased my enjoyment of the game
@matthewdavis7218
@matthewdavis7218 Ай бұрын
Tanto needs nerfed. Comparing to the shots to kill chart in the rifles video, it has less shots to kill than four of the seven rifles out to 70m which plain doesn't make sense. It also 3 shot kills better than 6 of the 7 rifles (only a single rifle can 3 shot kill). Tanto needs nerfed and headshot multiplier needs increased for everything.
@HaezeusYT
@HaezeusYT Ай бұрын
Kompact with rapid fire catches everyone by surprise
@darxis8822
@darxis8822 Ай бұрын
We need to get this man to 1M subs ASAP
@D0UBL3D0P3
@D0UBL3D0P3 Ай бұрын
That’s crazy bc most pros are using the pp919
@DiggidyD
@DiggidyD Ай бұрын
The Tanto and KSV feel great, the KSV feels a bit weak but easy to use
@liljimmy4940
@liljimmy4940 Ай бұрын
Dude the tanto is my favorite smg in the game currently
@CT3LA
@CT3LA Ай бұрын
Best SMG in my experience so far is the Grekhova, it really seems to be doing me better than any gun that's actually in the class so far
@ShadoDiablosXD
@ShadoDiablosXD Ай бұрын
I feel like smgs are a little too strong upclose. 4 shots to kill is a little too consistent and makes it a real challenge to win against them. Granted, they ARE supposed to be strong upclose, but its to such a degree that there susbtantially better than the shotguns in literally every way. And even beyond their first damage ranges I still feel like they're a bit too strong. Though, after that, they get quite weak. I feel like the game favors smgs a little too much.
@ryuandnina7385
@ryuandnina7385 Ай бұрын
No wonder I was getting so pissed hitting like 3 headshots with an smg and not getting a kill holy hell
@budman6137
@budman6137 Ай бұрын
So for the guns displaying incorrect values, do the attachments correct those values or are they only basing the changes off the incorrect stats and not what the actual values are? I know this is something that you'll cover in the individual gun guides but I'm curious if u don't mind answering. Side story - I started watching ur channel during BO3. I can't remember how many subs u had but nothing like what u have now. I'm super happy for u. It's so badass to see how ur channel has grown. I remember finding ur channel and not telling my friends so I could have the edge LOL. Eventually I did tell them and they were pissed I waited so long. This is my first COD in a few years. So the first thing I did was look up my boy Ace cause I knew you were still creating gold. I really appreciate what u do brother. Sorry for the novel lol
@vincenguyen5693
@vincenguyen5693 Ай бұрын
Excitedly waiting for the gun guide video…
@benjiBjammin
@benjiBjammin Ай бұрын
Really been enjoying the Tonto, slow fire rate but feels alot like the WSP 9 from MW3 recently, slow fire but hits hard
@NickPoly17
@NickPoly17 Ай бұрын
I swear even at super close range I get outgunned by ARs it’s crazy
@kolonataurus
@kolonataurus Ай бұрын
Right now i enjoy the ksv, but ill probably use the kompakt after i unlock it cuz i love high fire rate guns
@brucetumblinjr7980
@brucetumblinjr7980 Ай бұрын
I need a good SMG to run with, I haven't really decided yet
@illuminatiG
@illuminatiG Ай бұрын
Why did the pp919 pass up all the smgs ttk by a ton when you look at headshot and not chest on true game data . And is chf and rapid fire help ttk then?
@computerwsmallscreen2709
@computerwsmallscreen2709 Ай бұрын
Some of the TTK numbers are incorrect for the range chart (the last two range for PP919) but the BTK seems to be correct though.
@KillerUnicorn586
@KillerUnicorn586 Ай бұрын
they went overboard with the smg nerfs after the beta tbh
@rafathchowdury1968
@rafathchowdury1968 Ай бұрын
Ppsh is so a beam and the mag size makes it godly for face of
@noah_farmer
@noah_farmer Ай бұрын
The PP definitely has a fall from grace since the original MW3. That thing melted in that game
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