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JayzTwoCents

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@SchmityFPV
@SchmityFPV Жыл бұрын
Would have to agree, the card looked so much better with the stock air cooler.
@RaveDaver
@RaveDaver Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that cleaning this tiny fan inside a plastic case with tubes attached is going to be unnecessary more difficult. The stock triple fans ramps up at startup to "clean" itself. Because the 0% speed out the box settings under x-degree.
@LDFilmsMotorsport
@LDFilmsMotorsport Жыл бұрын
Looks like it was made in 2008
@cadcad-jm3pf
@cadcad-jm3pf Жыл бұрын
With AIO it looks like a card straight from 2005.
@VerGiLL1
@VerGiLL1 Жыл бұрын
​@@RaveDaverWait is that true ? I always found it weird that it did that.
@RaveDaver
@RaveDaver Жыл бұрын
@@VerGiLL1 At boot up the GPU fan settings(if you use software) aren't loaded so they go full blast.😁
@shiba7651
@shiba7651 Жыл бұрын
The worst part of the product is the fact that for the price of watercooling your 4070ti you can get a 4080 which will be faster and you can undervolt it to be as quiet
@wawaweewa9159
@wawaweewa9159 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 somepeople r idiots so why not take their money too
@RonaldMcdonaldTheThird
@RonaldMcdonaldTheThird Жыл бұрын
Then for an extra £300, you can buy a 4090. Pricing on the high end is insanely stupid ATM.
@heatnup
@heatnup Жыл бұрын
It always bothers me when people with lower tier systems watercool. People need to get their priorities straight. If you are willing to build a pc with hundreds or thousands of dollars worth of watercooling equipment...just forgo the watercooling and buy a higher tier card
@Simon-tr9hv
@Simon-tr9hv 11 ай бұрын
​@@heatnupliterally, even if you get one tier lower like 4080, like why bother spending 300 dollars custom soft tubing it when you could have gotten 4090
@MyouKyuubi
@MyouKyuubi 11 ай бұрын
You could also just buy a RX 6800XT, and you'll get the same performance as a 4070, that's as silent as the grave... And is cheaper. xD
@danielhulan3058
@danielhulan3058 Жыл бұрын
You were not harsh. You were honest. It only looks good in the vertical position. That's all you said. You said nothing about performance. You were right Jay!
@danielhulan3058
@danielhulan3058 Жыл бұрын
And let's be real. When you buy these things, looks do come into play a lot.
@dobbi6083
@dobbi6083 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't even look that good in a vertical position personally, almost gives me that really old passive cooled gpu vibes visually
@danielhulan3058
@danielhulan3058 Жыл бұрын
Or old school gpus that don't have full cover shrouds! Your right!
@danielhulan3058
@danielhulan3058 Жыл бұрын
Also this is through open bench setup. Think if this was in say a Hyte Y60. Horrible temps.
@ThatRandomMan1
@ThatRandomMan1 Жыл бұрын
I have custom cooled a few GPU's Always gotta throw on some vrm heatsinks. With any cooler just about it. Full cover water block? The way to go.
@mammothkiwi
@mammothkiwi Жыл бұрын
This is 100% spot on. If priced much lower it would make more sense, but you also need to consider the opportunity cost of the rad, pump, fittings etc. For another $23 it's much better to get a full block
@andresgallego5727
@andresgallego5727 Жыл бұрын
If you already have a loop and you are replacing the graphics card and you end up paying 1200 for a 4080 I might want to get a decent block asap that does the job to get my card under water, the issue is this product is not priced in that way, it needs to be 50$ cheaper to make sense, you can get a full block from another brand for a similar price.
@medic-chan
@medic-chan Жыл бұрын
Your use of opportunity cost implies that someone would purchase a water block in lieu of a rad, pump, fittings etc Opportunity cost refers to what you have to give up to buy what you want in terms of other goods or services. I think you're trying to talk about sunk cost? Or maybe just cost? Like: If your loop is already an additional $300-400 on top of your build you might as well spend the extra $23 for a real full block.
@mammothkiwi
@mammothkiwi Жыл бұрын
@@medic-chan I am not an economist but what I was trying to say is that the return/value on a higher end full cover water block is subjectively higher (aesthetics, temp) than choosing a cheap water block when you factor the price difference into the total cost of going custom water. The total cost being much higher due to the sunk cost of other components like rads, fittings, pump and res
@mammothkiwi
@mammothkiwi Жыл бұрын
@@andresgallego5727 yep fully agree. It's just doesn't make sense given to price difference between a full cover block given the overall cost of going custom water
@jepulis6674
@jepulis6674 11 ай бұрын
And you can just upgrade the fans on the air cooler for like less than a 3rd of the price of the block alone.
@AngelXjp
@AngelXjp Жыл бұрын
I agree with you Jay. I'm shocked that Corsair put their name on this product though. It looks like hot garbage. I would not put that in my case. I understand what they were trying to accomplish, but honestly a GPU is not a trivial component to cool. Especially these days. I can't even recommend this for a budget office GPU because this is overkill for such a low performance part. This product simply shouldn't exist. You can either do cooling right or not at all. This product I predict will lead to an early death of a GPU if used.
@MeshMN
@MeshMN Жыл бұрын
Good thing no one will buy it - why we love objective reviewers.
@andrewvirtue5048
@andrewvirtue5048 Жыл бұрын
Trial and error lead to innovation.
@generalawareness101
@generalawareness101 Жыл бұрын
Which block is better, the Bykski, or the Alphacool? I have read the Alphacool has isses (4090 AMP owner here).
@Nemesis-pe7mw
@Nemesis-pe7mw Жыл бұрын
@@MeshMN An objective reviewer? First off a objective HUMAN does not exist. Second he scored a cooler on it's looks. Which is weird since OBJECTIVELY speaking a coolers main function is to cool something, not to look cool. How "good" or "bad" something looks is purely subjective.
@benjaminsmekens2344
@benjaminsmekens2344 Жыл бұрын
@@generalawareness101 I've had a 4090 AMP extreme since launch last September, and have had Bykski block on it for about half a year. Performed very well with no issues, because I changed cases and went to a larger rad surface, dual pump, and delidded 7950x configuration I changed the Bykski block to an EK one. There is zero performance difference but the blacked out "boxy" look matched the rest of the build so went with it purely for esthetics. The Bykski block cost me around 90$ + back plate, can't beat that :D
@Retadin
@Retadin Жыл бұрын
I agree, that looks pretty terrible, and the price is insane.
@scoundrel6778
@scoundrel6778 Жыл бұрын
It does look very bulbous. If you didn't mention it was from Corsair, I would have never guessed, any parts I've gotten from them look sharp and rigid. They should make a full cover one instead
@DenKonZenith
@DenKonZenith Жыл бұрын
Or just go ultra-minimalistic; bare card with a metal cube on it has SOME aesthetic appeal to it.
@kylewitzel3540
@kylewitzel3540 Жыл бұрын
Buy the full cover water block. I want to see it
@Daveyc264
@Daveyc264 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see it go against that 150 dollar full coverage cooler. As for the Corsair 1. If you said it was a no name thing from Amazon for 50 dollar, I would of believed you
@constantinesoldatos
@constantinesoldatos Жыл бұрын
I second this!!! Would love to see that comparison.
@MeshMN
@MeshMN Жыл бұрын
This is a cringe product from Corsair - frankly surprised they went with it. It literally has no market the way it is priced. for 50 bucks maybe but not for the same money as standard water cooling loops would be.
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this review shows how pointless it is. That's a lot of money and risk to drop 8 degrees. Granted, an Alphacool block would probably be sitting in the 30 degree range, MAYBE 40, but is it even worth it on this GPU?
@Weneedaplague
@Weneedaplague Жыл бұрын
@@rustler08 it's all about your usage. If it's going to be at 100% all day then yeah the card needs beefier cooling even if it's not a flagship expensive model. The closer you can get to idle functions the longer the product will last.
@ano_nym
@ano_nym Жыл бұрын
@@Weneedaplague I honestly want to do a water cooling build just for looks. I don't really care about performance. From that standpoint it could definitively be worth getting a waterblock even for this card.
@DerangedCoconut808
@DerangedCoconut808 Жыл бұрын
the card with the waterblock looks like the old dinky plastic stock heatsink cooling solutions from 20 years ago. its looks cheap especially when its so much smaller than the PCB. and not having a daisychain passthrough for the corsair ecosystem (how much more difficult would it of been to run everything through one controller block) is an oversight for such an expensive product. its a great beta product at most in my opinion.
@MotoGoato
@MotoGoato Жыл бұрын
I would 100% pay the extra $23 for the full cover block with backplate .. it would be worth it for the aesthetics alone, the fact the fcb would also perform a little better too is just a bonus. That corsair block makes the card look like it stepped out of the mid 1990s
@handyman1957
@handyman1957 Жыл бұрын
Can we be serious here, they didn't even get the sticker centered : ( It's the first thing you will notice and cannot un-see. I'm sorry, but this thing just screems low quality to me. Would never want to see my bare gpu card in my system. There is a reason companies go through so much trouble to make coolers look nice and have back plates.
@lonelysdomain
@lonelysdomain Жыл бұрын
i am a corsair fanboy. i love their products as im running everything that can be corsair is corsair in my build...minus the monitor cuz i built my pc a few months before they announced the xeneon monitor. however im inclined to agree with you. that waterblock is fugly as sin. its just way too small and doesnt do a good enough of a job for the price point.
@shofla
@shofla Жыл бұрын
Even vertically installed- it looks like an early 2000's card with the visible cooler : PCB ratio
@bradtraq1
@bradtraq1 Жыл бұрын
Forget function over form when you're spending water cooling kind of money on a pc, it has to work well AND look cool, for me personally.
@tonirak241
@tonirak241 Жыл бұрын
Watercooling is for performance not aestethic, yes it does look cool when done correctly but the main idea behind was always for performance
@MeshMN
@MeshMN Жыл бұрын
@@tonirak241 Remind me never to have you build me a PC, ty. LOL aesthetics matter to more people than not. If one can make the build look good for the SAME money and performance - you seriously think the choice is going to be hot garbage?
@tonirak241
@tonirak241 Жыл бұрын
@@MeshMN aesthetic matters to everybody, but function comes first, if its functional then you take care of the aesthetic, not the other way around, if you prefer something that doesn't work but just look good then you are stupid
@Gnarfendorf
@Gnarfendorf Жыл бұрын
​@@MeshMNyes, and i get 20% more fps when i activate all the rgb on my PC...
@Th3Fly1ngCow
@Th3Fly1ngCow Жыл бұрын
@@tonirak241I’d argue with how good coolers are water cooling is more for looks these days unless your chasing 3D mark scores
@tushoo4938
@tushoo4938 Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see it compared to a full cover water block. I suspect Corsair wouldn't have liked to see that.
@stereoman.
@stereoman. Жыл бұрын
The long term risk to the VRM's is not worth it even if they lowered the price to $79.99, this thing is just not fit for purpose and Jay I can see you tried really hard to be fair but I wouldn't risk an $800 GPU to save any amount of money,, anyway enjoyed the review keep it up!
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
They could lower the price to $0 and it wouldn't be worth it. Think about it, it's $150 for a good block from Alphacool, give or take who you buy from. Then you realize that you're dropping $400-500 in rad, pump, tubes, fittings, reservoir, etc. So, that $150 block only represents 27% of your water cooling budget. Meanwhile, you've now got a GPU running in a way it was never designed to, because there's not a single 4070 Ti out there running bare VRMs in stock form, and it is highly likely that it will fail prematurely due to heat from the VRMs. If not thermal throttle if you game for long periods. Hard pass, even if it were freee.
@Seandude05
@Seandude05 Жыл бұрын
70C for VRMs is nothing.
@wolf16731
@wolf16731 Жыл бұрын
I share the same philosophy. Full cover or nothing. And even if it's "just a lower tier card, doesn't need a full cover" my thoughts say you could have taken that $120 and bumped up to the next higher tier of card and gotten way more performance for the money.
@sinchuon1550
@sinchuon1550 Жыл бұрын
I just got the eisblock for my 4070ti and I don’t regret it after seeing Corsair’s. Even if alphacool’s version is $25 more, you get more contact including the vrm, a backplate, better aesthetic and don’t have to worry as much about dust build up. Simply put, if I had to choose, I’d still pay that extra $25 for the eisblock just for that piece of mind
@Crunkmaster
@Crunkmaster 11 ай бұрын
watercooling a 4070 is a strange move
@TotemSP2
@TotemSP2 Жыл бұрын
It really takes me back to when video cards didn't have cooling shrouds, and just had a cooler sitting on the card. To tell you how long ago that was, the Radeon HD 4870 did have a shroud and blower fan, but mine from Gigabyte had a big Zalman Fan cooler on it and no shroud. And also Zalman were a thing. Edit: I see you know what i'm talking about.
@goldenhate6649
@goldenhate6649 7 ай бұрын
Shoot, my 1050ti had a shroud. Card cost as much as this entire block. Absolute stupidity.
@toddbrewer683
@toddbrewer683 Жыл бұрын
Nope, not too harsh. That is why we listen to you. We value YOUR opinion.
@AustnTok
@AustnTok Жыл бұрын
I've been talking about this thing since we heard about it and I was so surprised that corsair would release it! They obviously care a lot about aesthetics, but when it came to their GPU water block, all aesthetics went out the window. It looks so bad! I don't care if it could magically turn my 4080 into a 4090, I still wouldn't use it.
@KwaPaN3R
@KwaPaN3R Жыл бұрын
The fact that this thing is 150€ here in Germany really makes me mad. My alphacool 7900xtx block was 200€ but it‘s a 2kg block of solid nickelplated copper and no screws into plastic…
@Sgt_SealCluber
@Sgt_SealCluber Жыл бұрын
Personally I'm of the opinion that water cooling anything below the 80 class nvidia cards, unless you already have a loop, is silly. Use the money you would spend on the block and loop to upgrade to a 4080 or 7900xtx.
@thierryfaquet7405
@thierryfaquet7405 Жыл бұрын
Watercooling any GPU is silly. I understand people doing it for the look, or in some case for space gain in custom looped itx. But it’s still silly. Huge waste of money.
@Sgt_SealCluber
@Sgt_SealCluber Жыл бұрын
@@thierryfaquet7405 With GPU air coolers being better and the cards being pushed to their limits already not leaving OC headroom, water cooling is more about acoustics. I was going to mention how already water blocked GPUs are a good value at the high-end, but the prices on the water blocked 40 series cards is just stupid. My 1080ti with a water block was basically the price of a reference 1080ti and a water block. And with that I got a factory OC'd card that if it was air cooled would have been close to the same price. Though like I said this seems to be a thing of the past with the 40 series. They all seem to want to push AIO'd cards.
@patrickhill8494
@patrickhill8494 Жыл бұрын
Question: How do you get comfortable installing liquid coolers? I'm looking at building my next desktop, which will be both for gaming and for workstation tasks for architecture and rendering programs, and think I may want to use a liquid cooler. However, I am terrified of fucking it up and killing all of my components >.>
@koza2
@koza2 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Arctic's old GPU Accelero solution would've worked to add to the kit. The addition of the mini heatsinks and heatsink backplate I mean.
@reinulf656
@reinulf656 7 ай бұрын
Those always fell off after 1 to 2 years :) I had an accelero on a HD 4850 back in the days, great thing.
@RobTheSquire
@RobTheSquire Жыл бұрын
This block is more for older cards that you want to convert to being water-cooled that don't have heatsinks on vrms etc.
@davidsmith4186
@davidsmith4186 Жыл бұрын
If it were metal I'd be all in. Like you pointed out the screws going into plastic to hold the cold plate on. No go for me.
@kevinroosa1315
@kevinroosa1315 Жыл бұрын
Including little VRM heatsinks (with thermal tape) in the box would go a long way in making this a better product. They're only ~10c each in bulk.
@tylerbuhite5432
@tylerbuhite5432 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being the honest staple in this rollercoaster of a community Jay, Appreciate you!
@helstromh
@helstromh Жыл бұрын
The only benefit I see this has over the air cooler version, is that it allows you to install a 40-series card in a "smaller" case, at least from front to back...
@marshall104
@marshall104 Жыл бұрын
The designer of this is obviously a really big fan of old (early 2000s) single fan GPUs.
@theftking
@theftking Жыл бұрын
You weren't harsh enough; you should've auctioned the block off for charity. Anyway, the only reason anyone water cools a 40-series card is for looks, which I feel like defeats the purpose of this.
@Drovek451
@Drovek451 Жыл бұрын
I'd have loved to see a comparison with it running with the (ridiculously large) backplate, just to see if there was any difference after the temperature stabilized.
@TotalDbag24
@TotalDbag24 Жыл бұрын
Main problem with that is the things the backplate helps doesn't have temperature monitors.
@CheekSplitter
@CheekSplitter 10 ай бұрын
I tried this on a 4090 and was surprised. The preinstalled thermal pads were inhibiting die contact which lead to crazy temps. After a re-paste and removal of thermal pad material between the die and vrm, it performed very well. I added small heatsinks to the back side for about $10 just for the hell of it. Honestly, I'd prefer something like this over a custom water block. They should just add a small backplate to the mounting solution to help with thermals and aesthetics...
@NPurvis7622
@NPurvis7622 Жыл бұрын
The NZXT 20-30 dollar frame to attach an AIO to a GPU was, and still is, such a better value. Not to mention that bracket with a Fractal Design 360 AIO on a 1080TI ran RE4 Remake flawlessly. Sure, hotter than my 3080TI on a full custom loop, but it chugged along. That little thing Corsair made is.. a weird homage to that, I feel. I hope NZXT brings that bracket back.
@trinitygames5537
@trinitygames5537 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the water block on the gpu kinda reminds me of some old gpu coolers from early 2000 🤣
@dweb1857
@dweb1857 Жыл бұрын
the interesting thing is when they announced this new product line earlier this year, there was a full cover XG7 iQue link block. it has seemingly been removed from their website since launch (I assume to force people to buy the hybrid blocks) I was going to upgrade all of my Corsair ecosystem to link but not now if I have to use that hybrid block
@zencontroller
@zencontroller Жыл бұрын
I would of used that back plate as they actually work well. The whole thing dissapates hot air. Back plate will probably lower temps on the core about 3degrees. On my last Asus RTX3090 it benefited.
@blakslee720
@blakslee720 Жыл бұрын
This takes me back to my r9 290. I got one of those NZXT brackets that adapted a CPU AIO to the GPU, which was actually a lot better value. I think back then, I got a 120 AIO and the next bracket for no more that $100. This thing is $130, no pump, no rad :(
@miskammon
@miskammon Жыл бұрын
I bought a ID-Cooling 120mm AIO for my 1070, it was around $40.
@vinak963
@vinak963 Жыл бұрын
GamersNexus did a video on attaching an AIO to a 1080 ti. I copied that with my gpu. AIO or "hybrid" cooling for under 80 bucks.
@GamesplayChris42
@GamesplayChris42 Жыл бұрын
Seeing it on the card it reminds me of the Kraken G12 AIO adaptor NZXT made awhile back. Also not very good looking but again it was a universal adaptor.
@DKarkarov
@DKarkarov Жыл бұрын
Funny you mentioned old Zalman CPU coolers, looking at this thing I thought "this looks like something from the early 2000's...". But yeah I recently got a alpha cool 4090 full cover block with backplate and it was like... 170? This thing costs way too much for what it is, but then.... it is corsair. In other news you know who has an open frame water cooling test set up with quick disconnects.... derbauer... you should be more like derbauer Jay.
@Sindalis1
@Sindalis1 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts from viewing. 1. DO NOT TAKE APART THE THING BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON AND TEST IT. I do no care how much 'work' it is to get it dry again. Once you take it apart you can introduce variables. What we want to know is 'does it work from the factory' because guess what. The vast majority of users are not going to take it apart first, nor is it recommended to do so. We're going to plug it in, as it is, straight from the factory. Shout out to GN and HUB for this tip. 2. VRM Liquid cooling, would be nice, though can say anything you do to one side, you need to do to the other. If you liquid cool the VRM on the front side, then you also need to liquid cool the back side. The point here is thermal expansion and consistency. You don't want it to get hot on one side and cold on the other. 3. Memory cooling, I'm not aware if the 4070 or 4070ti has memory on the back side of the PCB, but same remark as in no 2. IMO right call on not including the backplate on this card. Air to Air, Water to Water, heat pad to heat pad. Don't introduce something that's not on the other side. 4. ΔT over Ambient please. Your in SoCal, which is forever on FIRE. How hot is it in your warehouse? 5. Most important question. If it was free, would you bother to install it? I think the answer in this case is NO. The lack of cooling on the VRM and marginal at best performance on the GPU makes it a questionable purchase. VRM heat alone is a concern. Overall agree, garbage product. Not worth the effort removing, nor worth the risk to damaging the VRM components over time. Better to leave the air cooler & backplate on.
@MagentaBoy
@MagentaBoy Жыл бұрын
I had a card, where a cold plate was just not existing, I would have loved if this product was available that time, would have spend twice the price.
@turtuhl
@turtuhl Жыл бұрын
Scientifically, you had no baseline for the VRAM temp with the stock setup. So, how can you imply that they were hotter with the Corsair cooler?
@miniminimini3626
@miniminimini3626 Жыл бұрын
so glad you used the right gpu unlike someone else…
@seriphim8542
@seriphim8542 Жыл бұрын
I went with a Suprim Liquid X, a hybrid, card to fit in my lian li o11d. At idle the thing sits at 31c, under load it never breaks 55c boosting to 3ghz with a bit of an overclock. Main reason this generation is just size. The stock coolers are a pain to fit in any mid tower case. Especially with the clearance for the 12vhpwr connector required. Being a hybrid card from the factory I think is the difference. The cooler is designed for this card specifically. That being said I did try the evga hybrid kit for my 3080 10g. The memory temps on it were just awful though. Constantly above 90c under load. The plate for that cooler 1. not being monolithic and 2. being so thin just was a bad design. For years I have thought about building a custom loop but upgrading piecemeal and passing those parts down through the house, not to mention moving often, has always stopped me. I don't think I've had a static build in a PC for more than three years at this point. But all my parts get cycled through three, soon to be four, machines in the house before they're out to retirement. Long story short I don't think there is necessarily a problem with hybrid cards perse, given proper design. But an aftermarket solution like this is definitely going to perform worse.
@T51B1
@T51B1 Жыл бұрын
I think it costs too much when it isn't a full cover block, and even then it's dubious. If I'm going to watercool an $800+ GPU then I would spend the extra bit of money to get a full cover block. I understand that Corsair is trying to push into a segment of more affordable watercooling, but IMO if they want to do that they should just make an aluminum open loop kit like EK made.
@imo098765
@imo098765 Жыл бұрын
Corsair did make a open loop kit a few years ago, Jay did a review of it on the channel too
@Pzero619
@Pzero619 11 ай бұрын
I don't know if someone already mentioned it, but with the 90 degree Icue cable the fitting and 14mm hardline tube fits. You just got to plug it in first then add fitting etc
@alderoth01
@alderoth01 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you just like everyone else. I don't see this being worth $129.00 when the better option isn't very much higher and keeps the back plate on like you said. This seems like a part for someone that wants water cooled, but can't afford the really nice super water cooled look. $69 would be a much better price on something like this.
@greggreg2458
@greggreg2458 Жыл бұрын
I paid 159€ for a full cover chrome plated copper waterblock from Alphacool.
@boosted94sc300
@boosted94sc300 Жыл бұрын
i agree 100%. it looks like something that should be a cheap alternative to an ek full block setup but its not. its only a little less and doesnt look good at all. that price it should have an active back plate.
@jrhowrey
@jrhowrey Жыл бұрын
Did you test it prior to disassembling it or did you reassemble it and then test it.. should have tested it prior that way you can take any user error out of your end and place it on the manufacturer that's how gamers Nexus does it... Not saying they're the only game in town but I think that's the right way to do it
@Melabor
@Melabor Жыл бұрын
There is probably a use case that this product was designed for. The issue is, we don't know what that use case is and I for one, can not think of it.
@premise187
@premise187 9 ай бұрын
I love your honesty no matter what product you are reviewing. It's rare today to find influencers being honest about products because they are scared that they will lose sponsors. This is why I always come back to your channel. Keep doing what you do.
@arclyte1859
@arclyte1859 Жыл бұрын
That sticker wobble would drive me crazy!
@dagamore
@dagamore 8 ай бұрын
way back in the early 2000's like 2004ish time frame the zalman full copper flowers were great for doing near silent setup for home theater builds.
@g45h96
@g45h96 10 ай бұрын
I'll say it every time Jay does, if only for the few random people that read it. A thinner contact plate is *NOT* a bad thing. For heat transfer, the thinner the better. If you need an example, half the reason the 7000 ryzen series sucked was because of the thicker ihs. The heat couldn't transfer as quickly because the ihs was thicker, and you can see thermal spikes every time it loads. The only time mass comes into play when considering thermals is touching on equilibrium, because you need to calculate the total heat contained in the thermal mass. But considering the contact plate is in between the heat source and sink, it won't affect the equilibrium temperatures, it would just make it take longer to get there (not a good thing)
@Amin_CA
@Amin_CA Жыл бұрын
You could've at least tried testing the VRM temps with K type thermocouples, to see the difference between the two coolers.
@handyman1957
@handyman1957 Жыл бұрын
I just could just feel the level of irritation Jay was feeling in this video. Can just imagine the off camera stuff that led to this video.
@vincentellsworth7905
@vincentellsworth7905 Жыл бұрын
not at all; there is less copper on that waterblock then in pennies nowadays for sure isn't worth the cost like corsair bought a huge quantity of generic copper waterblocks from Aliexpress, molded a plastic cover for it and stuck on a $3 fan
@bdiederick
@bdiederick 7 ай бұрын
Plug the power to the fan in first before installing that hose. Or remove the fan, plug in the power to the fan and then reinstall the fan. but it looks like it would work
@mindsunwound
@mindsunwound Жыл бұрын
The only reason I would buy this is for a low profile video card going in a SFX build.
@bitgod
@bitgod Жыл бұрын
Zalman cooler, yes! That's what I was thinking too. TBF on the price...that's often a Corsair thing, that things are premium priced whether it's worth it or not.
@ComputingCactus
@ComputingCactus Жыл бұрын
I'd rather just buy the next SKU up card than blow money on a block.
@robertkb64
@robertkb64 6 ай бұрын
Better solution than this is to go old school (think circa late 90’s water cooling) when we pried cards apart (pre-KZbin of course) and made custom brackets out of spring steel to hold our generic water locks down on the gpu, with the really fancy of us adding heat sinks (which were hard to come by if Radio Shack had already closed for you and you didn’t have Fry’s [RIP] around) and pointing fans at our monstrosities. 😅 Signed, Dr Frankenstein.
@LukeBroadhurstfilm
@LukeBroadhurstfilm Жыл бұрын
The only use for this is if you have a GPU that doesn’t have a waterblock made for it. This waterblock will work on anything.
@deptofcarstereorepair
@deptofcarstereorepair Жыл бұрын
"i wanna see the internal design before i get this thing full of fluid" ... that's always a good idea for everyone involved
@eddyh252
@eddyh252 Жыл бұрын
I know from experience with the kraken g12 bracket that you have to the fan at at least 1200rpm to effectively cool the vrms. It cooled then very well without producing noticeable noise.
@weltenleser
@weltenleser 6 ай бұрын
Interesting idea, however there needs to be some sort of solution to ensure proper cooling of the VRM and other components. This is not only about performance and throttling, but also about longevity - heat is the enemy of electronics.
@jasonluu3242
@jasonluu3242 5 ай бұрын
I can't imagine paying 130 bucks to make my 4070 look like a GT340
@EvokerKing
@EvokerKing Жыл бұрын
i love how one of the tags is "ugliest gpu block" i bet corsair loves that one
@seitenryu6844
@seitenryu6844 Жыл бұрын
A noise normalized test comparing the nearest in price full cover+backplate, the Corsair thing, and stock cooler, would be great. I run a custom loop, and intentionally run it a little warm, as the coolant can easily soak up intermittent loads. When I'm pushing the system I don't care much if it gets a little loud.
@thatfordboy4297
@thatfordboy4297 Жыл бұрын
A noise normalized test is all but guaranteed to be irrelevant.
@freyaherself
@freyaherself 3 ай бұрын
To be fair (and I'm being a bit sarcastic) you can totally fit the iCUE LINK 90° cable on the Corsair fans with their rads if you use power tools to remove the protruding edge! I did do that on my system actually and it works fine - cable has to go in before the fitting and if one looked closely, they'd have questions, but I really wanted that pass-through ability. Nevertheless, what a ridiculous oversight. I'm sure there are minor stability tradeoffs if they didn't have them on the edges of the fans, but I'm sure there's a way around that.
@BlazerRox
@BlazerRox Жыл бұрын
I don't like how the fan is "wobbly" or at least the sticker is not centered
@sethglenn9022
@sethglenn9022 Жыл бұрын
Major pet peeve when the fan's stickers aren't centered properly.
@crodles
@crodles 8 ай бұрын
when screwing into plastic, you should back up the screw until you feel it "dip" and then screw it back on if you care about not screwing up the threads
@MrArrmageddon
@MrArrmageddon Жыл бұрын
I have a $6000 PC. It has a great size window. RGB etc. But it sits in a location that you really can't see inside. I don't really care to look inside. The window is mostly for me to make sure nothing seems to look loose or melting inside. I can look in with a flash light and make sure the GPU support beam has no shifted. I can make sure the PCI-E power thing that was shown to melt etc is not melting things like that. I don't really care how it looks. I can't even place my PC in a spot that lets people clearly see inside without having to like bend over etc. So yes this water block if it works well I would use if it was cheaper. Overall I care most about performance, cost next and finally how it looks. All three are at least somewhat important though so I am not hating on JayzTwocents. After all I am an adult and can form my own opinions. Nothing a youtuber or anyone can say will decide for me. So I don't get why some people get hate over just raw opinions unless they are well into the territory of wrong or exploitable etc. I'm not even saying people are hating Jay for this though. And I still welcome full testing not just unboxing when possible.
@PasiFourmyle
@PasiFourmyle Жыл бұрын
Full Cover Forevaaaaaaaaa!🙃 The fact that it's so small compared to the board itself makes it look like some kind of brand-x $20 fake card on ebay or something. I think just being bigger would help a lot with the aesthetic.
@RandomTechG
@RandomTechG Жыл бұрын
That cooler make that $800+ GPU look like a modern $60 GT 1030. 😂
@jackpooley4860
@jackpooley4860 Жыл бұрын
The problem with it is the price. There is no reason that thing is above like $60. I got a full coverage block for my 6900xt for the same price but it dropped my temps by 50° not 5° lol.
@user-qi9be4lv7l
@user-qi9be4lv7l Жыл бұрын
In the U.S., they can't void warranty for disassembly. They can require it to be put back together as factory. But, just for disassembly, that breaks laws and you can sue if they refuse.
@harrycee656
@harrycee656 3 күн бұрын
Corsair: "If you give a negative comment about the product we send you, you better do a full review. Otherwise, you will no longer be on our priority product review program." Jay: "Ok, fine."
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 Жыл бұрын
The hybrid card idea worked well back in the AMD R9 290 days where they were thermal throttling back to 800MHz with the air coolers even at 100% fan speed (even the AIB custom ones) and slapping on one of these meant you went from thermal throttling to 800MHz to holding 1150MHz all day every day ...but we aren't in those days anymore modern GPUs just seem to run so well as they come from the manufacturer its hard to justify modifying them at all let alone spending triple digits just to end up with exactly the same FPS as usual :/
@Roobotics
@Roobotics Жыл бұрын
"The card runs cooler because the card's GPU die reports that, who cares how hot the VRMs get?" 💀
@AusSkiller
@AusSkiller Жыл бұрын
TBH I think the bigger issue is why would anyone bother with water-cooling for anything but top end parts? For the cost of water cooling you can usually go up a tier or two in parts which is WAY better value than getting water cooling.
@noth606
@noth606 3 ай бұрын
This is meant to be an inbetween level of product I think, something for someone who wants watercooling but without the razzmatazz of figuring out what block, what fittings, how to set up the loop etc in detail - in a sense it's a crutch, or perhaps a gateway drug to use a bad metaphor - to watercooling as more commonly known with a lot more effort being put into the whole thing. I could see myself putting something together using this if the stuff were cheaper, and probably it would be for my son, or ex wife, or neighbor. If there were some reason for it that is. I would invariably have to "be the techsupport" for it and this would be cheaper by a tiny bit than full on regular WC setup. But realistically I'd tell them to stick to air - if nogo then use AIO's - I do now. Watercooling beyond AIO's is hobbyist territory.
@Arhey
@Arhey Жыл бұрын
Agree in Europe it even cost the same as alphacool block. The one block fits all only has advantage for the manufacturer, for customer it makes no difference! The price is way to high for what it gives you.
@DarthChewie
@DarthChewie Жыл бұрын
This "waterblock" looks like an old relic from the early 2000's when PC watercooling parts were few and far between. It looks cheap, it's outrageously expensive for the build quality and performance, and anyone designing a custom-loop will want a proper waterblock. Corsair is delusional if they think this product should even exist.
@Brabant076
@Brabant076 Жыл бұрын
That sticker being off-center is killing me lmao 12:45
@lukeobbink528
@lukeobbink528 Жыл бұрын
I have A Bykski waterblock for my 4070ti and it looks and performs amazing
@andresgallego5727
@andresgallego5727 Жыл бұрын
If they drop the price a bit more it would be a much more compelling product, aesthetically I would use it because I have a Hyte Y40 that can only have your graphics card placed vertically so it would not be that bad.
@handyman1957
@handyman1957 Жыл бұрын
Just a note, the top right (viewing right) white light is glaring pretty hard on the big work table and washing out some of your area. Just thought I would let you know. Probably already know : )
@angerthosenear_yt
@angerthosenear_yt Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the coolers you'd see on the GT 1030 or GTX 1050 Ti.
@dzeklakovic7568
@dzeklakovic7568 10 ай бұрын
Who at Corsair looked at that thing a thought:" man, this really looks beautiful, doesn't it"
@shaneandera1409
@shaneandera1409 11 ай бұрын
It matches the aesthetic of the devices in the product line, with the beveled edges, and soft/rounded corners, which is pleasing to look at when they stand alone. However, when you start comparing it in size difference to the product that it mounts to, now it becomes goofy to look at. You cannot complain that the device doesn't work, but do you want to see the pcb of the gpu whenever you look at your system when that cooler is installed? That is why the companies build such big coolers, to cover the pcb. I would give Corsair an A for function, and a D for aesthetics when mounted in a system for this gpu cooler.
@TerminalzPain
@TerminalzPain 5 ай бұрын
I had the 2080ti Corsair water block, that was actually pretty cool, could see in to it and had a flow indicator. No idea why they've gone backwards, and all their LINK stuff is way too expensive.
@matthewbarrios1028
@matthewbarrios1028 Жыл бұрын
The NZXT add dead middle of this Corsair product review was class. 🤣 🤣
@bmwg35
@bmwg35 11 ай бұрын
I got a glowing, plumbed in masterpiece in a Y60 and yeah it looks good but you know what, I wouldnt care if it was a black box of old so long as it did its thing properly.
@DaneBarr-o6i
@DaneBarr-o6i Жыл бұрын
After you add on the cost of a decent pump/res combo and a rad you’re better off getting a block for your particular card and it’ll look much better
@TechnicallyDane
@TechnicallyDane 11 ай бұрын
The fix for the backplate would be to offer them for free to be shipped for the specific card the end user has. Otherwise, the card specific units are superior.
@draculadeep
@draculadeep 11 ай бұрын
Jay, honestly I would keep the original air cooler and backplate rather than liquid cool it using this waterblock, If I had to liquid cool my card, I definitely go for full cover waterblock. Love your vids. I dont think telling the fact is harsh.
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