They Gave Him A Handicap 🤬 | Goku VS Superman (Dragon Ball VS DC Comics) | DEATH BATTLE! | REACTION

[@averyplaysthegame]

30:40 The red star thing would be so out of character for Goku. Goku would be more likely to teleport Superman to a blue/white star to fight him at his best. Taking Superman to a red star to nerf him is the last way Goku would want to win. Its the same as arguing that Goku would use kryptonite. He has no clue about how Superman's biology works, he would never want to nerf his opponent unless the world was at stake, which it wouldn't be since Superman isn't evil, and beyond being against Goku's character, it would go against the entire point of Dragon Ball. Why work harder to overcome his opponent when he can take away his powers to fight him at his worst? Because that's not Goku.

[@KEEPTALKIN8215]

25:37 yeah characters in DC have went faster than instant. Goku has to 1 put fingers to head 2 sense ki 3 then teleport while superman can travel through time with speed alone

[@averyplaysthegame]

26:00 Goku takes a second to do Instant Transmission. Like, he does the finger thing and locks on to a place. If they gave both characters unquantifiable speed, then Instant Transmission isn't an argument for greater speeds since there is a brief lag where he isn't in that separate dimension while teleporting. Plus, he can't really fight at the same time. The closest to that he's done was the Instant Transmission Kamehameha, where Cell just kind of let him charge it, he didn't fire it during teleport, and Cell just stood there when he fired it, while Superman would have the speed to get out of the way and the durability to survive it.

[@Teknanam]

-Superman has literally gone fast enough to travel through time. Its now a passive Kryptonian ability. And with him being able to travel to the edges of his universe instantly, the difference between speed vs. teleportation becomes a case of splitting hairs. Especially in a brawling fight. The breakdown of actions required don't really matter when they are being done so fast you can't even percieve the speed gain or loss from an action being missing. -They mentioned that Goku would basically have one opportunity to teleport Superman to a Red Star. After that, Superman will be expecting it when he flies away and thus can be ready for Goku trying it again. He can literally phase through the people, so he'll likely just phase through Goku as he high-speed flies to a a star to sun-dip. Basically, what can Goku do to keep Superman contained around a Red star? Because at the speeds these guys move at, its near impossible to catch them if they are going away.

[@Shosnow]

SUPERMAN is the GOAT. Also I agree on the speed part, superman is by far faster than goku and they gave goku a free point there lol

[@alphawolf7417]

IT and Mind Reading are waaaaay more complicated than you think. IT requires that you not only sense the target but also that you can concentrate long enough to pull off the technique. It's why there's usually a pause before Goku actually warps. For example, in Buu Saga Goku, couldn't IT to New Namek cause the Land of the Kais was too far away from it, and he knows where it is since he went there in the Cell Saga. I think what you thought of was Kai Kai, Supreme Kai's version of IT where he can warp anywhere just by thinking about it, and Goku never learned that one. Also Goku can't read minds across the universe. He's only ever read minds once and he needed to be touching Krillin to read his.

[@jossgoyanko7006]

Teleportation =/= Speed Who's faster, Nightcrawler or the Flash?

[@austinnorman9153]

Ima go with The Flash!

[@jossgoyanko7006]

​@@austinnorman9153Precisely. Even if Goku used Instant Transmission to teleport directly to Superman, Superman would just zip right past him. Teleportation can help make up for a Speed difference, but not an overwhelming one. If Superman wants to go to every star in the universe, it's not his fault Goku isn't strong enough or fast enough to stop him. It's not cheating to use your environment to your advantage, it's sound tactics.

[@ArchieSilver929]

Handicap or not, Goku still doesn’t win and you’re saying Superman can’t power up but Goku can? That makes no sense. I swear people won’t accept that Goku loses, jeez. Nothing Goku will do to Superman will work. Hakai would be useless since he’s resisted being erased before and Kamehameha won’t work. The heat within the the blast is made from plasma, the same source of the sun so even if Goku hits Superman with it. He would just be powering him up.

[@type-pro3907]

If you read the story world forger mentions the rest of his multiverse was collapsing. Meaning that superman didn't actually one shot the thing. It was the page when they returned to reality. We also have confirmation from the DCeditor (Andrew Marino) that world forgers multiverse wasn't stable and the only stable world was the future earth so when superman destroyed that everything starting collapsing. Basically outright confirms that Superman interrupted it, and wasn't actually that strong himself. It really depends what kinda feats he has in the comics then, but he might actually lose the strength category, giving Goku the win. Basically what superman did to the multiverse was like me taking out a support for a building. I can bring a building down if I do enough damage to a certain part of it but that doesn't mean I'm building level. Same issue. The statement that current Superman is a composite of every mainline Superman, is completely false as shown in Doomsday Clock. The Silver Age is NOT canon to the main DC Universe. The main DC Universe is Earth-0, while the Silver Age is Earth-1985. Superman only have memories of the previous lifes, he not is a composite Superman. Daizenshuu official DBZ guide by Akira Toriyama statements = DBZuniverse is infinite and 100% canon. Death Battle nerf Goku and overhyped Superman. They omited the strongest Goku's versions as Jump Force Goku fights against Prometheus (Prometheus is a God beyond tiering system >>>> all Jump Magazine franchises and cosmologies from all anime/manga). God Fusion Goku breaks the 4th wall and fused with audience >>> author. And CC Goku universal blue. Goku beats Superman, no-diff. And comp Goku beats comp Superman with Milkman and CAS included. Goku wins. This is debuked.