THEY LIVE - Glasses or blindfolds? Film analysis

[@collativelearning]

To those commenting that they Live IS about the Jews running the world, even though the writer director staunchly says it isn't, thank you for demonstrating a major point in the video - that people have a tendency to seek out mind-numbingly simplistic explanations of society, it's problems and thus seek over simplistic solutions. To those who reluctantly acknowledge the film isn't intentionally about the Jews, but claim it fits perfectly as an allegory of Jewish control anyway ... It's a shame I have to actually explain this basic point, but I'm doing so in the hope you'll learn something. They Live "fits perfectly" as an allegory of many conspiratorial interpretations of society - the bankers, the Illuminati, the Jews, the globalists, the New World Order, the capitalists, the fascists, the shape-shifting lizards, the Republican Party, The Democrat Party, the Labour Party, The Conservative Party ... take your pick. The fact that you choose to see the one interpretation, while excluding most of the others, says more about you than it does the film itself. The world is full of conspiracies I agree, and some of them are so awful that they are met with mass denial, but the world is far too complex for a single group to entirely monopolize. The reality is that multiple power groups of varying attitude to the general population are constantly either over-lapping or competing with each other. It's always been that way and always will be because fortunately humanity has a tendency to splinter itself into competing tribes. I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't get educated about the dangerous power groups in our midst nor sit back and do nothing about it, but I am saying you should not blindfold yourself by investing all your hope and fears in the notion that by defeating a single power group the world will magically be put right. Corruption can only be fought off temporarily in its varying guises, but it will always be with us because we (including you) have a corruption element built into us.

[@sewme7861]

"the world is far too complex for a single group to entirely monopolize." No one is saying that it isn't, Rob, youre straw manning. People are saying that Jews have power and influence over Western society far beyond their 2% of the population would suggest, and that they carry out a malicious agenda not in the interest of non Jews. Would it be all right with you if all the media in Africa was run by the Danes? Or Scots, or Peruvians? Why and why not, and please be consistent here, don't apply one rationale and standard for this question and another for other questions, that gets really tiresome for people who are actually consistent about things. As well, maybe the issue of tyrannical control of our society is more important than film analysis, ultimately, and those who notice the similarities between the film and reality regarding the Jewish relationship to non-Jews are simply trying to have a more important convo than "what is They Live about?" It's funny actually, you say "globalists, bankers, Illuminati, New World Order," all of which have major authorship by Jews far beyond their percentage of the population would suggest. These are essentially different terms for the same thing; Jews. Which is why many people have said that "globalist" and "banker" are antisemitic slurs. The majority of funding for both parties comes from Jewish people and groups. Yes, Rob, take your pick indeed. Yet, fascists have not acted in ways that would "fit perfectly" with They Live. It would be a very messy sloppy forced fit to say so. Please, explain how They Live "fits perfectly" with fascist governance? I know you don't believe it does per se, but make the case one would make to say that it does, and we can then see how badly it fits compared to the case made for Jews "fitting perfectly" the story of They Live. You are dancing around things here, mate.

[@youtubearchive3668]

Disclaimer noted

[@EntitySteel]

I'm impressed with the maturity displayed in dealing with such controversial and sensitive topics. Instead of shutting out these comments or pandering to them, you go out of your way to provide a real response to people who you know probably don't want to hear it. You're one of the real ones. Keep being you.

[@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes]

Rob, I immensely enjoy all your work, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but I wish you hadn't posted this video because of the commentary it elicited. Some truly sick and bigoted minds have spewed their insane, paranoid and racist bullshite here. My reaction ranges from sadness to utter disgust

[@collativelearning]

​@Yes they are saying a single group can monopolize everything. Just look at some of the comments on here. You've demonstrated it yourself by claiming that Jews are the overseers of the "globalists, bankers, Illuminati, New World Order". There are plenty of others who believe in some of those other power groups, but do not share your Jewish root cause assessment. You say many have referred to "globalist" and "banker" as antisemitic slurs. That's a new one on me, I've talked about the problems of globalists and bankers many, many times, especially the problematic Federal Reserve, and never encountered an accusation of antisemitism on account of it. Ironically, you've gone down the politically correct route of claiming that because a certain group are over-represented in positions of power that there is a conspiracy afoot - the exact same logic happens with people who believe in the evil patriarchy or white privilege. Oooh look, that boardroom is 80% white men, what else can it be but systemic mysoginy and racism!!!!! ... as they ignore the many over-lapping factors that lead to that such as women preferring other types of job roles, men have a wider range of IQs, thus producing more genius at the top end of the scale etc. Ashkenazi Jews, as I'm sure you're aware if you've really done your research on the subject, have higher average IQ's that the general population, inevitably making them suitable for high level complex planning roles. Do they look after their own? Of course they do, like every other group does. But they are not over-represented in power positions BECAUSE they are Jewish any more than white older male dominated boardrooms are caused by an ethnic conspiracy. As for your claim that fascists have not acted in a manner that fits with They Live's conspiracy narrative, I partially agree. There are contradictions and I raise this in my full video ... Even though Carpenter claimed the film essentially represents capitalism, the Republicans and Reagan economics, the evidence doesn't match in life, and this is particularly evident in how the world has changed since the film was made. However, the film does show a Republican candidate alien on TV, NOT a Jewish banker. The film does show primarily black people in poverty with the pro-white (not pro-Jewish) theme even more evident in the script. Far from dancing around the subject, I'm answering all of your questions and pointing out the flaws I see in your logic. And that's not the behaviour of someone who is in denial or acting as gatekeeper. I'm personally indifferent to Israel. I don't like some of the things they've done, but there are many nations who've done a lot of bad stuff who definitely aren't Jewish controlled. However, let's assume for a second that you're right. Do you really believe the way to solve these world problems is to emphasize the ethnicity of the perpetrators - running around shouting "It's the jews", thus falling stupidly into the trap of being branded a bigot, racist, neo-nazi etc? You're doing what your enemies want you to do, thus justifying their attempts at suppressing your free speech, right? Wouldn't it be more productive and effective to educate people about the organisations that need to be investigated and their specific policies that need to be changed? Solve those things and the rest doesn't matter. One last point, your statement that the issue is more important than film analysis ... if that's so then go discuss it in a non- film analysis context.

[@zchgla]

The whole thing is a metaphor about "waking up". The simple one liners in the magazines just represent "hidden" messages or programming, which is real. The fight represents the struggle it takes to wake someone up from delusion, which is believing the world is as is represented on TV or MSM. People are happy living in that place and don't want to confront the reality of the world. It's not about one ideology or one group or another. It's been generalized to be easily understood in a movie.

[@itsfree2payattentionkp853]

You said it

[@NylaVox]

Agree~ ✨💯%✨

[@openscholar9908]

Agreed.

[@johnjacobjingledingleberry9769]

I agree with alot of what you say, possibly all of this, but you excluding the most obvious explanation. The alien-like creatures that can only be seen by people with these special glass, or shall I say "special vision". And if you can explain them as a metaphor somehow, maybe you would be willing to also explain the metaphor behind the scene where the main character stumbles upon a secret "gateway" room area, which allows one to teleport themselves to location off earth? I honestly have no idea about any of it, and would love to hear your thoughts 🙂👌

[@lastmanstanding7155]

@@johnjacobjingledingleberry9769 Could be that it's an extension of the metaphor the aliens represent. They represent an idea that is beyond man in their desire for control and wealth. It'll go wherever it can and so by extension the aliens too. That's my crack at it anyway. Further discussion might make it more robust or completely deny it.

[@polishedpebble4111]

On UFOs. I heard the gov. encouraged UFO culture because it resulted in thousands of people (some very dedicated) to watch the skies and report sightings. It was free aerial observations to help detect enemy craft, illegal craft, or to see if experimental stealth craft really were stealthy enough.

[@shiddy.]

that sounds like something they'd try to get you to believe

[@eddiepalmer9543]

Made up classis disinfo

[@TheThing4444]

@@shiddy.Beliving in ufos or beliving that they encourage people to be involved in UFO culture to act as free surveillance?

[@SniffHeinkel]

There is at least one case of them actually doing this to a person. His name is Paul Bennewitz.

[@darthwicket]

I cant unsee Roddy as a buff David Icke now

[@fabulousdolphin4221]

haha

[@mariodelacruz7968]

Never thought of that. Good one.

[@redken5988]

He's also a villain in conan the barbarian, one of thulsa doom's guards... check it out lol

[@feralcyborggaming1531]

Our minds have been violated.

[@MisterVolts]

Yes!

[@theawakening5548]

"Mama don't like tattletales" Interesting line in that scene.

[@theawakening5548]

@Uh Oh loved watching this movie when I was a kid.

[@thecut2033]

Deep

[@Yeomannn]

Mama is the shotgun.

[@dext1971]

​@@thecut2033Could you explain i dont get it.

[@BrockLee3]

"Get involved; and, YES, fight back. But, it's also important that YOU live." @ 13:05 That's the most inspiring thing I've ever heard!

[@petesmith9475]

I can see the bullshit on both sides on political spetrum. Me still being alive? Not so much.

[@RaikenXion]

The Elite/NWO whatever you want to call them, "They Live" through control and suppression of OUR very way of life. WE CAN LIVE, only when we learn to stop fighting each other, keep a open mind and ALWAYS Question EVERYTHING.

[@jaysands6391]

@@RaikenXion "WE LIVE" when we enjoy THE GOOD AND BEUTIFUL things in our lives. Freinds, Family, a good meal, a glass of wine, a great night out, a mellow mood spliff, a great love session that satisfies the heart. DON'T focus on the bad stuff, its ALWAYS gonna be there, long after your gone.

[@jellyface401]

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[@CM-fx1tp]

Except that it is not "inspiring" at all! That very weird that something soooooo uninspiring is taken as "most inspiring thing". What inspires you?? To survive no matter what?? It is the mentality of a servant: save your life no matter what, serve on the knees if it works in keeping your life "safe". That's not so corageous nor eroic. It is the menthality of a sheep, that trys to escape but not if the dog barks at her. Let me tell you one thing: the dog is real and barking at you is guiding you and your kind to the precipice. If you don't fight it back because you have the fear to lose your life, eventually you are going to lose it for real! And whit you, all your buddies is going to die because no one has the guts of doing anything about that beyond bleating like "scared to death" sheeps. No, inspiring is something that calls you to fight till you die for keeping liberty for everyone. We the people are a society. If we don't cooperate, if we don't help each other when someone is in danger, if we are not prepared to fight for liberty at the expense of something than we are done... we will become lonely individuals that can be squeezed and crushed like ants, because as individuals we are week. That's the problem of nowadays: THEY have transformed a society of linked humans in a bunch of apatic individuals that will not sacrifice anything for the other's and for theirs own liberty.

[@nateforest4936]

I remember watching this on VHS rental with my dad and I can swear it was before 1988. He said, "Yep, that's exactly what the world is."

[@kevinthomson5865]

6 companies own all media.

[@_scabs6669]

They own Rob too. And they own you.

[@trinitysun9856]

And they own themselves

[@Jaanikins]

Duh 🙄

[@TokyoXtreme]

How small are their hats?

[@alphaotakux]

More like 1 tribe

[@MrGazz101]

It’s a pleasure to hear such a cohesive analysis from a level headed person, thanks for all of your hard work on this video

[@ricardogalvan1031]

They Live IS a documentary. Roddy Piper just gave Carpenter permission to follow him around with a camera for a few days. You thought this movie was something phenomenal. For Roddy, it's a Tuesday.

[@garvintimmann]

Did you notice that in They Live , the text on the walls was in Hebrew of the television tower brain washing society?

[@SniffHeinkel]

@@garvintimmann I've watched that movie at least a thousand times since I was a child, and I've never noticed the Hebrew language in any scene. You're reaching.

[@garvintimmann]

@@SniffHeinkel Thank you for your concerned reply. The scenes explained are printed on the walls of the stairs cases, in the building tower, in the last final chapter of the film.

[@garvintimmann]

@@SniffHeinkel Time Stamp 1:20:29 , then 1:21:09, then 1:21:45, 1:28:09 has been cropped out on the stair case in the Blue Ray Version.

[@SniffHeinkel]

@@garvintimmann Do you mean the alien language that appears on the walls when Nada and Frank teleport into the tunnels? That's not Hebrew. It's a made-up language for the movie.

[@magnusart1413]

I never noticed that on the poster the reflection in the glasses have TV lines as if the image is being broadcast.

[@onebodyinyahuahlosangeles1206]

Like the glasses are 5G 😳

[@margaretcurrie4093]

Yap media gives our false information..

[@virtuouspyromaniac4467]

in my opinion, the fight scene could be a reference to plato's allegory of the cave, where one of the chained people who lived in the cave their entire life successfully got out for the first time and when he saw what the world is like outside the cave, the sun and everything else, he was overwelmed then he went back and tell the others about what he saw, and when he told them about the world outside, they thought he was crazy and attempted to kill him.

[@leo730kam1]

Great reference. S/O to Socrates & Plato

[@jerseyforhawks]

Or, they cast ROWDY Roddy Piper, it was the 80s and the WWF was popular af.

[@slashfan091]

@@jerseyforhawksa coin has two sides 🤣

[@balleet210]

4:18 "Let TV teach you" I like that little touch a lot.

[@bigbadtelf]

Golf?

[@muscahrine]

While i love the movie, i always thought it was also pretty funny due to the deliberate lack of subtlety - which is kind of a Carpenter trademark. I really didn't think there was room for misinterpretation, but anything can be bend to fit a narrative i guess.

[@FairyRat]

Yeah, it's a charmingly stupid conspiracy.

[@MrBattlestar10]

A man goes to a church and finds glasses that show him that the world is run by creatures who aim to enslave mankind.

[@TheDRODOR]

It doesn't take itself very seriously, but the message is there

[@greatskytrollantidrama4473]

They Live is the greatest Rowdy Roddy Piper performance since the thumb in the eye.

[@adejareojo]

Hell comes to Frogtown👀

[@greatskytrollantidrama4473]

@@adejareojo I didn't think anyone else saw that. I'm impressed.

[@speedygonzales378]

I remember that Roddy Piper tweeted that this movie was documentary as well.

[@chriscash782]

speedygonzales378 did he really?

[@americanstruggler587]

He shortly died soon after he said that "coincendentally".

[@americanstruggler587]

@Ian Duke huh?

[@starwarsroo2448]

@@americanstruggler587 he was a 63 year old, ex steroid abusing wrestler, in light of that he had a far longer life than many of the other wrestlers

[@americanstruggler587]

@@starwarsroo2448 I'm aware it's still strange tho.

[@DanielHuman1996]

My parents watch CNN and my parents-in-law watch Fox. Unfortunately, both channels serve fast food propaganda. Hypnotized viewers argue over cheeseburger wisdom. It's unhealthy to watch.

[@sewme7861]

@tubenshaft and then show them how Trump has done literally the opposite of what he campaigned on because he is owned by Israel

[@TheGreenTaco999]

@Sam Maloney saying facts before opinions doesn't make the opinions facts, too often I see on Fox them say some legit facts, and then go on to jump to conclusions that are basically opinions due to how interpretive they are,

[@mikeappleget482]

This is a False equivalency with a heavy dose of Enlightened Centrism BS.

[@hancock63]

Notice the book on Edgar Cayce and extrasensory perception by Nada's head at 11:35? I doubt that's a coincidence.

[@sleepleZZZV3]

To me it's not the movie, it's the message!

[@NewVision28]

Absolutely 👍

[@NylaVox]

Same~

[@SolidPain6624]

Quill Inkwell eh but this at least a smart message and helpful one

[@ThePlutonian]

Awwww, I remember dragging my BFF to this film in the theater even though information was sparse back in the 80s. But my local library provided quite the history. She was so pissed because it wasn't romantic comedy. I walked her through it...symbolically. She still remembers to this day. God bless Roddy P! ♥️

[@professorstewart6379]

I interpret the film as a modernized version of Plato's Allegory of The Cave.

[@kingofwingo]

Definitely a great inspiration.

[@seanwelch71]

This movie always makes me think of the Serenity Prayer. Nada gains the wisdom to see the line between that which he can change and that which he can’t change. He learns the difference is a gray area. The too long fistfight reflects Nada trying to give the wisdom to his friend.

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

Roddy was such a good actor. RIP.

[@TooCool2Khan]

Timestamp 11:39, golf magazine on newsstand reads “LET TV TEACH YOU”. Just an observation.

[@Minisculemanatee]

Ive watched many film analysis channels and I honestly feel that yours is the best on KZbin. I don't understand why you don't have a bigger following. Your breakdowns are great, never stop.

[@einzelfeuer_2855]

Because he keeps it VERY real and most people hate that...

[@Minisculemanatee]

@@einzelfeuer_2855 makes sense, 2+2=5000

[@gepisar]

Dude! This was a frickin' awesome overview and commentary!! Nicely rounded, grounded and treated with important semi-irreverence. Nice!

[@Propagandest]

you know, Rob has hidden depths in his in depth reviews.. brilliant.

[@1000000man1]

6:48 *THANK YOU!* You don't know how good it is to hear the voice of reason.

[@kurtdenter1799]

4:15 something that I always wonder about when I watch the movie: at the end they destroy the tv-signal so that the aliens are visible. That would mean that also the signs and the books are now free from the signal and therefor showing the sublimenal messages ... and that means that the written content of every book and magazine that was printed after the aliens took over is now gone, so a big chunk of human art/history is now erased.

[@collativelearning]

Yeah the chaos that would ensue from such an intense and rapid psychological change to the population would be explosive. I've noticed society tends not to like fast change, it prefers increments stretched out over many years, even decades.

[@greatskytrollantidrama4473]

That's a fantastic idea for the sequel

[@exitmaze9203]

@Collative Learning As you mentioned David Icke in the video, I want to point out that this is what he calls "totalitarian tiptoeing", changing and centralizing societies slowly over time. If it would happen over night people would react and protest but if it changes slowly people will become normalized to it and perhaps not notice the direction in which the society or the world is moving. Ps. Appreciate your content!

[@sewme7861]

@@collativelearning Or maybe the controllers prefer this because the frog doesn't notice the water getting hotter.

[@nikolajignatiev6323]

@@sewme7861 Frog does not notice chemicals that are making her gay.

[@lilmikeytheskater]

The golf magazine in the back of the news stand shot says “let the tv teach you”. Interesting!

[@TheAtticusFinch]

☺🤣 As if Jon Carpenter could just say whats up is ridiculous. A deli, A bank, A TV news studio, Destroying a "settlement" on the edge of the controlled city in the middle of the night. You need some new sunglasses 🕶

[@seanabbins5481]

The videos on They Live might very well be my favorite of the Collative Learning videos. They Live was a very interesting movie that worked in many different layers. I always saw it as a movie with political themes, but these videos show that the message was more nuanced than I realized, and I appreciate it even more. On the surface, this seems like the typical 80's Sci-Fi/ Action movie, but it is so much more than that. And I really respect Roddy Piper's acting in the movie. Too bad he didn't have a longer career; I understand he had substance abuse problems, as the interviews he gave later in his life were very sad to listen to.

[@livingood1049]

"Zombie like state of simplistic delusion!!" 🤣 Brilliant deduction and an amazingly insightful piece, yes again.

[@mrsigns100]

What's most scary for me are the drones....they are everywhere now! For real.

[@Roescoe]

NPC meme

[@kylecurry577]

Yes I absolutely agree… Be strong, vigil, resolute and as you mentioned we must all live!

[@culturewarrior2012]

rob: the writer directer staunchley says the movie doesnt have the subtext i dont want it to have also rob: kubrick and others lie constantly about the hidden subtext to get funded for their subversive material you cant bend perception to support and refute your claims whenever you feel like it lol.

[@TheDarthMasterChief]

What you don't mention is how it's worth noting the context is different, Carpenter wasn't asked, he went out of his way to make a statement in his advanced age without having any real need to. You are painfully obsessed

[@wesyung5906]

@@TheDarthMasterChief talking about Jews publicly can potentially get your life destroyed that’s why

[@TheDarthMasterChief]

@@wesyung5906 Speaking negatively about pretty much any group can get your shit cancelled and destroyed these days. I don't agree with it - until you start physically harming someone you should be allowed to think and say what you want in my book - but that's the world we live in today. But nonetheless, you ARE still obsessed. There is no secret Jewish society. You've been swept up by a meme.

[@STG-46T]

@@TheDarthMasterChief "there is no secret jewish society" "it all boils down to our ability to accept" sounds similar dont you think

[@rorschach1848]

@@TheDarthMasterChief I bet I could hear the shekels in your pockets when you walk.

[@tc871comments]

6:58...WRONG‼️ The fight between George and Frank in the ally was WAAAAAY longer than what is traditionally seen and typical conflict resolution fist fights. But as the fight wore on, I began to realize that Frank wasn't fighting because he didn't believe George. He was fighting because deep down he knew that..."THEY" are real. The physical fight symbolizes how people to this day fight to keep themselves asleep in the proverbial Matrix. "THEY", don't have to fight very hard at all to keep the public asleep and under its spell. Citizens like Frank will fight tooth and nail to make sure that they never see concrete proof with their own eyes. Sorry...the glasses are NOT a blindfold.

[@anima6035]

Agreed. People can laugh and call me crazy but I learnt this first hand when I had an inexplicable and extreme UFO experience with my ex who vehemently denied it for weeks until he finally admitted he had seen what I saw. He then refused to talk about it in any depth. The only possible terrestrial thing it could have been (in my knowledge) is ball lightning but it was a perfectly clear day with blue skies. A few months later I pointed out a strange light in the sky which he said was a plane only for it to just disappear into thin air - "it disappeared" he said 😂 to which I agreed and yet he STILL refused to talk about the situation. Y'all can laugh all you like but I know what I've seen and people will do anything to deny that life is much stranger than we're told.

[@mikeywaite5564]

I love your videos. You always speak so well and give a brilliant view on the film's you speak about. Great stuff.

[@Mark.Taylor.]

This really is not a "Film analysis" it is more using the film as a conversation starter.

[@sandy_the_hippy]

I have the full analysis this is taken from, and it's absolutely on the money. Insightful as ever sir

[@Sweeptheleg83]

This might the most grounded and insightful take on this movie ive seen yet. Thanks Rob. I remember coming across this movie as a teenager in the late 90s and thinking "this guy is speaking my language" as, at the time, i was young and full of anger and confusion about why the world seemed so insane. As im now 40 i get a different vibe when i watch it. Maybe its just as simple as maturity and a better understanding of the world around me then i had when i was 16. That said, i still really enjoy the movie for what it is and still think there are some good insights that can be gleaned from it. Always question authority, think for yourself and so on. But i agree that there are certain rabbit holes that one should avoid when it comes to that kind of thinking. Be an individual but dont isolate yourself so much that you stop living and just merely exist. Dont allow yourself to be radicalized by conspiracys that arnet there and there is definitely alot of that out there today.

[@blastprocessing3115]

It’s a metaphor for Juice. Life imitates art, even unconsciously. They can’t help but tell on themselves.

[@shueyk2320]

shut it down!

[@fuckgoogle2554]

It's more than that. It's about exhibiting their immunity to justice. It's like all the rich pedophiles, they don't fuck kids because they're attracted to them. They do it because it's the worst obvious crime out there, and then they flaunt the fact that they keep getting away with. PS : watch House of Rotschild.

[@MingusDynastyy]

Your part at the beginning is exactly how a lot of the people who like Lain act

[@MrDandeman86]

I watched They Live after watching this film analysis and I have a different take away then some of the others in these comment. I think a lot of the movie point to that the plot is suppose to be a metaphor of Apartheid in South Africa. The main reasons for this is how the group of rebels are depicted. The ghouls classify them as communist and call them terrorist which is what the south african government did to more effectively fight against Nelson Mandela and his movement. Also the headquarters in the beginning of the film where they manufacture the glasses is called an African Methodist Church and even if the rebels are mixed they have a bunch of black leaders. The way the camp is demolished and assaulted by the police reminds me of the South African shanty towns of the 80s and the way the police act walking in formation is very similar to the South African police in riot controls. I do believe however that the film has many meanings and the ghouls basically represents everyone that Carpenter hates. At the end of the movie a film critic is portrayed as a ghoul and she is criticising his movies.

[@Roescoe]

Meh you've just spotted one instance of the pattern that is control. Creditors and debtors is the game.

[@SonicfanTheNightfury5099]

I think the movie shows how F'ed up advertising is in the 80's Even nowadays Advertisers are more F'ed now

[@starwarsroo2448]

I've got that book by Charles Berlitz, had it since I was a little kid. Decent book, he's done some good books

[@michaelparylak5649]

Amazing film on so many levels 🙌 Kudos to you John Carpenter

[@KishinZephrite]

Whenever I think of the battle between Nada and Frank, I think of how dismissive Trey Parker and Matt Stone were in a interview once describing this particular scene and why they parodied it in a South Park episode without dissecting its symbolic interpretations.

[@jeanpaulmichell7243]

I used to love South Park, and then came to the conclusion that Parker and Stone are a couple of douchebags that got lucky early on. Some of the early stuff was smart, then it became a self parody.

[@sewme7861]

@@jeanpaulmichell7243 libertarianism is a joke too

[@anonb4632]

It's easily the worst scene in the film.

[@LEO-xo9cz]

Could you please post a link to the episode?

[@MacStoker]

treating us well tonight Rob, cheers again.

[@Matrix-ph1fx]

Thank you Rob-- very cool!

[@KutWrite]

Love your ending comment!

[@perisomething5231]

Great analysis,I also wanted to add that it's comforting to hear your political thoughts. The message at the end of this video knowing that we all have similar problems or should I say headaches from trying to understand the reality of the moment and or the truth is very relieving and relatable. Again great vid.

[@dongblak7048]

"WORK 8 HOURS", "SLEEP 8 HOURS", "PLAY 8 HOURS". That actually sounds like good advice.

[@sskspartan]

Yes, many people don't have 8 hours to play

[@collativelearning]

Haha, I said the same thing elsewhere in the full analysis vid.

[@lordmalal]

Work 8 hours, commute 4 hours, sleep 10 hours, masturbate 2 hours

[@beareble-lion4446]

Just never think learn or change or travel.

[@kylesanders8276]

I've considered that they use and allow movies like these to reveal the truth in order to litnus test how effective the programming is maintaining. If they can almost flat-out tell the populace and they don't revolt by witnessing the similarities, then the programming is working.

[@jmmo4226]

Negatige priming, cognitive disonance.... and many other ... complex procedures

[@nolabinn2542]

I don't think the movie is a documentary. I don't think lizard people exist. But the movie is relatable to how society indoctrinates at an unconscious level. How to act. What to think. Unless you are the kind of person who asks questions.

[@MisterVolts]

Hi Mr. Ager, have you studied Prince of Darkness? If not, you should! Thanks

[@heartlights]

I think Ager's work on Kubrick has started to open his eyes to the stranger than fiction realities in this world.

[@WAX1138]

Jacob Frank, Mayer Rothschild, & Adam Weishaupt got together and did something.

[@M-CH_]

Involving yoghurt.

[@rexremedy1733]

There is no conspiracy. This is all just a coinciding colossally complete construction of corrupted carnal counter cognition! There is nothing to see here, so there is no reason to look at it. :-)

[@WAX1138]

@@M-CH_ No you're thinking of The Stuff. Cant get enough...

[@music79075]

What'd they do

[@Clay3613]

Probably smoked stogies naked in some woods.

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

You are being extremely generous to the media and it’s intentions. After the recent project veritas piece, your innocent explaining away of deliberate and intense mind control is naive or deluded. Most media in the United States are owned by a few companies it at times can be laziness. You are a typical intellectual feeling you’re opinion of the world is reality that your ivory tower rationalizations to diffuse what is troubles you. You are correct people should live, enjoy life and appreciate friendships but that doesn’t diffuse the manipulation of the culture or even make it the slightest bit conspiratorial, you sound like someone trying to placate there own fears. Secondly if living becomes the value that trumps all other morals that is exactly how people are herded into death camps, when you make living the highest standard you trivialize the human sacrifice that built every functioning democracy which allows for such trivial pursuits as film analysis.

[@collativelearning]

I'm actually a fan of Project Veritas. Love what they do. But to assume that the entire news media, including all the smallest outlets, operate in the same manner as Veritas illustrates is a massive leap. It is absolutely true that "cut and paste" journalism is a massive problem ... among other things. There's also what I call "conspiracy by convenience", which means lots of journalists and editors who hold similar beliefs publish similar pieces, not out of an agreed conspiracy, but each of their own volition. In other words, often it's a journalistic trend rather than a formal conspiracy. The effect is similar and so it has the appearance of conspiracy.

[@sskspartan]

@@collativelearning It's enough for the "source" to be fake news, the smaller companies are like a hierarchy and have no choice but to repeat the same info

[@collativelearning]

@@sskspartan Not necessarily. They very often do have a choice. But cut and paste journalism is cheap and easy.

[@sewme7861]

@@collativelearning Straw man here: "But to assume that the entire news media, including all the smallest outlets, operate in the same manner as Veritas illustrates is a massive leap." The media hates white people and wants to destroy them, this is what they wont say outright. Yes, they get damned close to saying it, and thus are not hiding their intentions, but they dont outright say it, hence the deception and conspiracy, or collusion if you prefer. As we say with the Russiagate bs collusion and conspiracy are effectively and often practically and legally the same thing.

[@sewme7861]

@Politely Correct lol

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

its difficult/impossible for one to "live" while being denied living wage jobs and healthcare. DUH

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

@AdamWayneone dont act like what i say is unreasonable. tho i always appreciate when douchebags like you out yourselves

[@gravesband]

This movie is literally about what we’re living, they put the truth in the movies, just like Truman show

[@nateforest4936]

Its an occult ritual. Like when a horn is sounded before a hunting party goes into the field. Now it the animals fault it was killed because they gave it warning.

[@gravesband]

@@nateforest4936 true that

[@cornholio8411]

Love your vids Rob. Been listening for a very long time. Thank you dude 😎

[@anonb4632]

David Icke wasn't that well known outside the UK when the film was made. He did have a famous (in the UK) interview with Wogan, but at that point he wasn't talking about reptilians.

[@adolfhitler-er7sw]

Read Siege by James Mason.

[@haroldbalzac6336]

The pedophile?

[@jacksonfurlong3757]

Thanks for outing yourself as a part of the larger media apparatus and the ghoulish system it supports 👍👍

[@GenghisVern]

Having been a fan of conspiracy theories throughout my long life, I have come to realize that, generally, "smeller is the feller".

[@RighteousBrother]

It's not a documentary? Thanks for clearing that up.

[@tgsvesti9559]

I think Mac Ready in The Thing and the main character in They Live had Vietnam syndrome. They both were paranoic and saw paralel reality.

[@mechelemede4579]

8:17 The point about the complex conspiracy being brought down in a simple manner by the destruction of one device, the simple solution to a complex problem. Dual delusions. Brilliant point that I hadn't thought of with this movie, nor conspiracy theories, in general. :O Just have to say: This channel is my absolute favorite for film analysis.

[@sewme7861]

Well, actually, knowing what is really going on is the single most important ingredient to removing the evil people from power. please, jump down my throat for the hyperbole of using the term "evil."

[@mechelemede4579]

@@sewme7861 I'm guessing you get a lot of bad reactions on the internet. I don't disagree with you at all. As you said, the truth is an important element. Unfortunately, it's not the only element needed to bring down a conspiracy. (And, I agree with you that "evil "is a perfectly appropriate word to describe them.)

[@sewme7861]

@@mechelemede4579 I said "most important ingredient." You attributed "only element." When did I say that or anything even remotely implying it or consistent with it?

[@mechelemede4579]

@@sewme7861 I apologize for putting words in your mouth then, and have no disagreement.

[@sewme7861]

@@mechelemede4579 You are real ass nigga and i like it.

[@thefritzification]

The ghouls are real, Rob.

[@kylehyde215CA]

What are you lookin at, smooth skin?

[@Bonez0r]

The part about media companies copying each other, and NOT government coordinating with the media companies... aged like milk.

[@TheLyingFigure]

"trump is the devil, no SHE'S not..." Ahh I see Rob is also a believer in the Trump is trans conspiracy.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

I wondered if anybody caught that. LOL

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

that is a new conspiracy to me. IMA LOOK INTO IT!!!!

[@heyheythrowaway]

Weird. I think you may need to reupload the video. All I see is a white screen with these words: DON'T QUESTION THE JEWS Then again, half the news headlines I see say the same thing... How odd.

[@collativelearning]

Yeah that's your blindfolds blocking your vision there ;)

[@heyheythrowaway]

@@collativelearning no u ;)

[@sewme7861]

@@collativelearning Why do people think this movie is about the Jews? will you ever state why they think this? are you afraid to? why would you be afraid to do so if its nonsense? something isn't adding up, mate.

[@LoverOfManyArts]

Hey alright! Two in one day :)

[@slinkerdeer]

I like that most of this video is discussing about conspiracies, society, and corruption. I enjoyed it. As I enjoyed the film

[@NewVision28]

I agree my friend 😊

[@The_Custos]

Have you looked into the Sabbatean-Frankists? Their involvement in paedophilia and child sacrifice, mass media deception and celebrity connections? Why even one of the tribe started to look into this going way back, and was shamed and shunned, his historical work dismissed by his own kind. They live is a critique of many things, and applies to specific groups within a larger ethnicity. Looking into this will change your world view though, so it may be too much. I will attach a link if you wish to proceed.

[@The_Custos]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Toaff Look what happened to him when he researched a certain topic about a certain people very powerful in the media, cultural and political affairs. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passovers_of_Blood This book will really open your eyes as to what has been hidden, and it was shut down. It can still be found online though. Blood, isn't their religion against that? Not for the Sabbatean-Frankists. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism Those links should get you started, and for something perfectly tied to They Live, how about this one? davidduke.com/times-of-israel-jews-do-control-the-media/ Elad took his article down, but not before people noticed.

[@einzelfeuer_2855]

@@The_Custos This is one set of them yes...and the one that is arguably the worst...but there are quite a few who are similar in varying ways. Many are not truly religious at all and are in fact just nihilists, hedonists and atheists...many are also satanists or into other various occult sects of different religions...Even some of the orthodox are radical splinter cells of zionism in which greater isreal is the whole world and they wish for the noahide laws to become reality and to enslave all others and genocide all the whites.

[@SLAMTUCKER]

This was a good analysis, I wouldn't have thought there would be this nuance in the movie.

[@cl1mbat1ze]

1:46 He looks like a more muscular Rob Ager.

[@loufontana151]

I find it interesting that Nada never checks himself in the mirror.

[@sewme7861]

Rob thinks hes got this one figured out but anyone who COMPETENTLY looks into the J control of society sees whats going on and that his analysis here is super shallow and inadequate.

[@The_Custos]

Yep!

[@The_Custos]

davidduke.com/times-of-israel-jews-do-control-the-media/

[@compugasm]

His full analysis is 2hrs long I think. This is just Chapter 7. EDIT: It's actually 2hrs and 37 minutes long: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXLEnHSOrJKprM0

[@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax]

They Live is not about "J", John Carpenter said it himself and it's obviously anti yuppie anti Reagan economics

[@sewme7861]

@@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax let me remind you where you are; you're on a channel that analyzes film on multiple levels beyond what the makers intended. so, saying what the film is and is not about in absolute terms simply doesn't apply here.

[@whistlingdust]

Really good work here. Very thoughtful.

[@starwarsroo2448]

Boom Ager killing it

[@B-Bigbawz]

Ager shreds it every video 🤙

[@sandy_the_hippy]

@@sewme7861 your tinfoil hat needs adjusting

[@sewme7861]

@@sandy_the_hippy you literally dont know what youre talking about. you believe straw men and cartoons created by the ruling class and call us who actually know whats going and the ins and outs of it tinfoil hat wearers. youre smug and it really is tiresome because we can go toe to toe and you will be totally outclassed - you are very low info.

[@The_Custos]

@@sewme7861 they refuse to see, they refuse to consider, they refuse to look at the evidence. It doesn't matter, because if we sat them or Ager down and went through the evidence and events, piece by piece (I would start with blood libel), they would freak out unless they really wanted to get to the bottom of it.

[@chrisb9345]

I assumed he meant that it is a documentary of Reagan Republicans. Allegorically speaking of course.

[@RighteousBrother]

That's EXACTLY what he meant!

[@M-CH_]

It's literally this, figuratively speaking.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

You are correct, but I also have to wonder if there wasn’t some bitterness in that he (Carpenter) never discovered that new found 80’s success, as every time he tried to break through to become an “A-list director” he failed (box office wise). While this is easily his reverse INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS, I always like to think that the sunglasses were put out to make people delusional and go on killing sprees. What if the glasses amplify your delusions/inherent psychosis or install one that grows stronger the longer you wear the glasses?

[@M-CH_]

@@TheRealNormanBates Whenever I watch They Live! another thing strikes me: appearances and origins asside, the gouls are profoundly human-like in their behaviour. The revelation of their alien nature blinds the movie's hero to the fact that they're essentially no different to us. And the movie's most treacherous characters are humans.

[@space0ctopus647]

@Jeremy Backman nope

[@kabangj]

@1:54 Never noticed that hahahaha. Great video btw cheers

[@halokittiekat]

Great message Rob 👍😊

[@stuartharding9044]

A really interesting take on the film

[@stevetobin7495]

Ive heard you may have been cloned from mr piper

[@collativelearning]

Part cloned apparently. Ollie said you're having a birthday bash soon and I'm invited. I'll bring my shotgun.

[@bacwoodsgospel6879]

Funny stuff ! Rob could not be clone it would really suck ..George Washington warned us about political parties

[@stevetobin7495]

Collative Learning yep please do

[@roninabs]

Saw They Live for the first time recently. I was sort of baffled by the simplicity of the message as I perceived it: the system is corrupt/you are a slave. I am a big fan of Carpenter's strange and subtle storytelling so this left me puzzled and I probably started paying less attention. But this interpretation which turns that narrative on its head makes a lot more Carpenter-sense to me, and elevates it quite a lot. "The traps of human psychology." ... Ahh, much better.

[@frazzle515]

Can't spell They Live without They Lie

[@adamarens3520]

Well said Rob!

[@DontKeeptheFaith]

Does this mean the black guy in the movie represents Credo Mutwa?

[@AlohaBlade]

Love the philosophical commentary, Bog. Nice close with the message on extremism.

[@kurtadams9740]

Why does this video creator hate it when people have opinions different than him? I've noticed it's a pattern of his, its not very mature.

[@davidabbott7270]

I think this movie is a cautionary tale of people who need to find balance between the truth and corruption

[@solomonkain]

I will enjoy this with my dinner. Thanks Rob.

[@lolizorz]

I also watched this while eating my dinner

[@solomonkain]

@@lolizorz at Dorsia?

[@collativelearning]

I read your comment while eating my dinner!

[@GLRAIRSOFT]

In the movie they were called something lenses. It was a name I can't remember at the moment. Hoffmann lenses or something like that. It's the name of the guy who synthesized LSD

[@aBerlin1945]

When did Collative Learning start working for aliens? Have you been an alien channel all along?

[@sewme7861]

he wont even mention why people think its about the jews because if he did he would not be able to assert that they have no rational reasons, he really is out of his league, gen x boomer idiocy.

[@anonb4632]

@@sewme7861 He mentions Jews in the first few minutes of the film, mate. Obviously you never watched it. Oh, and he's not old enough to be a boomer either.

[@slimygreencreepmachine6116]

Ager is a treasure

[@NoConsistency]

While I don't think this was the intended meaning in They Live, this has become my favorite interpretation of the film. Even if there was a single power group responsible for all control in the world, opening fire on a bank is not going to resolve it. And by todays standards, that feels like the actions of pizzagate shooter.

[@trucid2]

Who are these socioeconomic and political elite again?

[@sewme7861]

J ews

[@chriscash782]

Sew Me that’s some but not all

[@sewme7861]

​@@chriscash782 Not all? How so? Look up the word "elite," and "elite class."

[@sewme7861]

@UCjauVGqZhPueyqXCr8WWomg People trust ABC even after the fake-news footage they used for Syria stories, but they think we have bad sources. Shove this in their faces and when you see that they are just pathetic and unserious people who will believe lies they know are lies because its easier,....know that you have to abandon them and take the real reigns of power and cease looking to them for support and approval.

[@fallout1953]

@@sewme7861 They definitely have more power and influence than people think, and it's usually not that positive... (depending on your views) There's a reason jews have been persecuted so much throughout history. You really don't believe it till you notice it, and even then, people try to belittle, downplay or even suppress it. Whatever you choose to or not to believe in things like Hitler's theory of cultural bolshevism is up to you, but denying facts and patterns isn't a good look either. Not trying to "recruit" anyone to become radical here. Just know the truths, knowing isn't radical.