They Made Titan 10x More INSANE - Lethal Company

Welcome back to Lethal Company! In this video we play on Titan and Dine and it's a perfect showcase of why Titan is so terrible on the new update. They added a billion turrets to this map and they also reduced the loot. Dine is so much better now! ENJOY!
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[@Insym]

Btw that first run was totally our fault lol. But later in the video you can see properly why titan is so terrible now. Do you like the changes? I personally really hope they change something about the turrets. Solo players are absolutely screwed now since they can never turn off the turrets (unless you use mods). And even in a team it's almost impossible to turn them off long enough. It's just super annoying imo.

[@Nahid-zz7nj]

I like it

[@Ao_Darkz7691]

Titan got needed so hard ngl

[@arandomdude5147]

Insym, you should try the Orion mod for lethal company! It adds a brand new moon where a established society used to live before it was brought to ruin by atomic bombs, it’s super cool and I’d love to see your reaction to it with some other mod packs!

[@RazakelKairo1994]

I personally disliked Titan pre-nerf, yet really like the other two moons but saw no reason to go there. So for me personally, it brings a bit more flair to the game to know there's way more risk involved into going to the supposed meta-map. It should be off-set with more reward I feel though.

[@Spukow]

Turrets n eed to be nerfed tbh, far too often did we have to end a run because they were everywhere even once in the main entrance

[@unarmored9973]

I kinda feel like the density of turrets on Titan is not THE actual problem, the problem feels more like there's absolutely no engaging counterplay for turrets. No way to kill/stun it with the shovel, or blind it with spray paint, or shut it off permanently from the breaker or by removing the app. I mean, even if it just ran out of ammo after you bait attacks enough they would be more fun than they are right now.

[@gigglingchicken8444]

My friend thought it was a great idea to try ro hit the turret as I was passing by it. I would of been just fine but the turret just sprayed bullets everywhere going insane. Lol I had no chance! Pretty comical.

[@SeudXe]

Well its either too easy or too hard. Theres never gonna be a balance that makes everyone happy. Id rather have it more fair than no counterplay at all. @@laika6202

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

titan be like: try to cross 3 corridors with 5 turrets and mines in them just to get two two-handed items

[@Zarek-fl5io]

Spray paint is literally useless atm, and runs out pretty quick​@@laika6202

[@ashurtl96]

If there's only one turret, you can stand on them in most situations , but it's still not really a solution. Turrets currently feel the most 'unfair' of the threats for sure, especially when they camp doors and entrances on Dine/Rend.

[@jackbennett2269]

“Someone close the door?” *is the last one who came in, closest to the door, and is not currently doing anything*

[@OmariFaith]

He's the main character I guess, what I usually noticed

[@h2oQueen]

A kicker of an idea would be that once the sunsets monsters drop so much more loot because they are in a frenzied state allowing for a last minute loot grab which would be an insane idea whilst up again monsters that are more active in the evening, this would encourage players to play after 5pm and risk it for the biscuit.

[@restlessparadox1953]

i love this genre of suggestion, stuff that allows players to push harder if they want / need to, stuff that lets you make desperate decisions in desperate times. i think this is cool :3 riskin it for the biscuit is what its all about and having more reasons to push you to do more difficult things (stay after hours on a planet / go on weathered planets) could add another layer to the game :3!

[@lachutojav2558]

You know the monsters drop nothing?

[@notchs0son]

@@lachutojav2558I think they mean that the influx of extra monsters can be since they rushed so fast they drug along some shit as an excuse to spawn more stuff

[@lachutojav2558]

@@notchs0son i mean that would make sense

[@havox112]

Nothing worse than going to titan and having all the loot deep in the zone and monsters spawning in instantly.

[@nopenotme2042]

What would be neat is a mod that going to lower moons (like assurance) gradually increases the value of the higher ones (like rend), and vise versa. You would have to plan when you go to each planet.

[@PomsonGamingII]

I like this concept but you'd get completely fucked by weather and also you'd have to keep paying for the expensive moons to maximize profit Maybe if they made them only have to be purchased once every other quota?

[@undeathghost5627]

Neat concept. My pitch of implementation would be to make it so on the moon screen each moon has a "Projected Value" similar to how (and formated the same) as how the company has "Sell % rate". When you return from a moon successfully (that way wipes don't screw you over since you didn't actually "Take" the loot that is there) you subtract the current % by a rate based on the "difficulty" grouping of the map you played (Easy -20%, Medium -15%, Hard -10%) and then give all other moons % based on the "difficulty" grouping of the map you played (this would be intentionally the inverse). (Easy moons +10%, Medium Moons +15%, Hard moons +20%). This % scale is to encourage changing moons regularly but allows for you to "repeat" hard maps without being punished to severely (necessary for high quota runs later on) by both making the hard moons decay slower and gain faster while making it more punishing to go to "Safe" moons repeatedly (while not preventing the strategy). For starting a new run Experimentation would be the only one starting at 100% (as it's sort of setup as the "first moon" of every run) and the rest would be at 75%. Ex run: Day 1- Experimentation (Random Weather) 100% All other moons (Random weathers) 80% Ex: You go to experimentation and survive. Day 2- Experimentation (random weather) 80% All other moons (random weathers) 100% Ex: You go to March because you want bee-hives galore. Day 3- Experimentation (random weather) 95% March (random weather) 85% All other moons (random weather) 100% Ex: You go to Vow (Company visit) Day 4- Vow (weather) 80% March (Weather) 95% All other (Weather) 100% Ex: You go to Dine for $600 Day 5- Dine (weather) 90% All other (Weather) 100% Ex: You go to dine again because it's free since you're already here. Day 6- Dine (Weather) 80% All other (Weather) 100% Ex. You stay at dine part 2 (company visit) etc, etc. This makes it so your not punished too hard repeat visits. You could also go another strategy and have the harder moons start at lower %'s so you cant just "Rush" them for the high loot #s and you have to earn them (or have the tradeoff of buffing the other moons faster by rushing them to get higher loot #'s at a different hard moon) which would encourage the "easy moons early" strategy that makes sense for difficulty curve. idk. would require some work but hopefully this conveyed the essence of the idea. %'s might need some work to make it a little more painful to repeat in general?

[@tarunprithi2441]

40:54 chat was so real for that lmfao

[@ferdithetank7535]

I think the culprit of this nonsence is that difficulty doesn't corelate to reward at all. People wanted to go to Titan non-stop because it has a lot of loot and it's easiest to deliver since the ship is basically right at the entrance. This made it "meta", and you can see so with Insym's earlier video going for high quotas since it was easily farmable. Zeekerz saw that and made it the bulshit we see now, but it's a bandaid fix that won't help with the cause of issue IMO, the difficulty of a planet AND the rewards should be independent from the planets themselves and from the economy. That way game encourages going for different places depending on your situation. Have too much loot and don't want to risk a wipe? Go on a chill moon and have fun. Desperate to meet the quota on a last day? Risk it for the biscuit, since it's do or die anyway. Same for the money you get. It should be only for equipment, ship upgrades and fines. Getting gatekept by the travel price is stupid and shouldn't be a thing.

[@s_mai8970]

I SO agree with you on every point. I get the game is supposed to be challenging and yeah it sure as hell is as it is, especially when you're not an extremely skilled player. Telling people to just "get better" at the game is also nonsense for these randomly generated map type of games cause you could just get really unlucky and have a horrendous spawn that no amount of skill could save you from the one billion turrets in an area. All in all, so far, too many player nerfs for my liking, idk. I want a challenge but at the same time I want to have fun too yknow

[@no-mb6fu]

It's just one dev cut the guy a little slack

[@babytiny5807]

@@no-mb6fu Dude's 21. The amount this guy has achieved is ridiculous, I can definitely cut some slack on this one. Game is dirt cheap too

[@ferdithetank7535]

@@no-mb6fu that's why we got mods to fix those issues. I'll see what I can do, maybe even make some myself.

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

I wish he tried to fix the bugs before trying to balance the game because it can take a long time before finding the right balance

[@R3negad3BB01]

The A Team is here! The chemistry of this crew is so frikken good. I knew that I was gonna enjoy the heck out of this video the moment I saw who's playing.

[@Shadow_Sama999]

16:58 i laughed so hard when Insym got jump scare😂😂

[@korver_4]

Seeing Baron genuinely losing it during that first run was the perfect way to start the video

[@jarokier]

I just hope to see Insym play the new dave the dive x dredge dlc. I'm trying not to spoil myself with other videos on it, but seeing just small snippets of what it contains makes me excited to see Insym play it.

[@DeeeJay07]

I feel like he did not change Titan because of people not acknowledging the other planets like Rend and Dine. He made it difficult that's for sure But i really would like to have more monsters in Titan than turrets. All monsters will spawn at once. I feel like the timer for Turret should be 1 minute. Turning off turret 1 minute will be nice

[@azrienstewartenasen1508]

Titan already can have a ton of monsters because of having the highest power level cap in all of the moons. No need for that monster increase, just the turret nerf.

[@DeeeJay07]

@@azrienstewartenasen1508 Yeah for sure

[@Volair]

Making Titan as bad as it is just makes it to where instead of going to Titan, people just now go to Dine or Rend and stay there as long as possible. So while they "fixed" Titan being too good, the meta is still "pick highest profit area and don't move". But Titan being a Facility makes it pretty boring still, so I'm okay with Rend/Dine being meta. If you have the right players anyways. I'd love to see every area be valuable for different reasons, have more variety in the inner complexes (instead of either mansion or facility), etc. More positive and negative effects that aren't black and white as well. Every weather effect is essentially "if you can go somewhere else, do". I additionally am leaning towards moving to moons not being the high cost it is, but it SHOULD have a cost to unlock after the first 3 or 5. And then a small fee to move to any moon past the first 3 (maybe 10/50 or something). Essentially, I want moon choice to be valuable and that a "smart decision" isn't "go to place with good weather" and/or "most money".

[@grimnir2142]

Funny idea would be to maybe let the player pay for fuel. Better planets are further out/opposite of each other so to travel from dine to titan just costs a ton and could create some kind of situation in which its not the classic we avoid all weather but instead its maybe necessary to put up with the weather cause you are stranded at a planet with no fuel / no other option to go or had to choose the lesser evil ? Would be funny as well because now you need to make a choice of selling everything to have more points to buy fuel to potentially get more/easier loot or just barely make quota and save up more loot for the next one.

[@DJDeezyThaTruth]

-JoJo = Best Space Mum 🥺 MPV Ever ❤️

[@AlissahKat]

if you get the detailed scan mod, you can use that when the vanilla scan gets bugged. theyre different commands (detailed), so it still works. hopefully zeekers does fix it though

[@j0shdes742]

In my experience the "Scan bug" only happens if you leave the planet and then try to scan. If you scan before departing then it works perfectly

[@monkebox3436]

can see in video (sorry no timestamp, reading comments post-watch so idr when it was) that scan was broken pre-departure it's a vanilla bug

[@yeehaw9048]

i gotchu bug was at 1:11:27

[@monkebox3436]

@@yeehaw9048 o7

[@lairasan7467]

He basically made Titan now useless since its harder than dine, costs more than dine and sometimes gives less loot. On dine you can just skip 50% of the way there using a extension ladder for the fire exit too. I expect Dine nerfs in the future or changing Titan again since people will just not go there making the moon not needed

[@kierand289]

You dont need ladder for dine’s fire exit. You can jump up if you have full stamina

[@rainydeestar]

I don't think you even need a ladder, there's a way to just get to the fire exit

[@lairasan7467]

@@kierand289 Nice to know. That just proves that Dine is more worth it than Titan and also costs less so he needs to change Titan or nerf all the hard moons

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

just take the ladder into the mansion and abuse clipping when you're lost, you can just bruteforce jump your way to the fire exit

[@f0xii]

You know it's a good day when you wake up to a Insym video ❤

[@judgement7279]

48:16 that intonation and goofy laugh after lmao

[@kccreationsgaming]

I agree with the current turrets being a problem. Most of my friends are casual players, and the recent update made most of them stop playing.

[@no-mb6fu]

Because 1 planet is bad? That's weird

[@kccreationsgaming]

@@no-mb6fu It's not just 1 planet. I've seen way more turrets on the base planets, setup in unfair spots. Turrets shooting you straight down a hall from 3 rooms away, land mines within the first step of the entrance, turrets glitched in between 2 floors within that cosmetic metal object. Turrets sandwiching people between rooms while players are trying to avoid standard enemy spawns. Turrets in the middle staircase able to shoot through floors. There's also the bee nerf. Worms spawning at 11:00am, giving less than 1 sec warning before killing on planets with no eclipse or weather effects. The dev seems to be punishing the 90% based on what they're seeing the top 10% are capable of, making the base gameplay more punishing, and downright unfair at times, for the casual players that don't spend countless hours researching optimal strategies. like the bees breaking connection to their hive after running x meters away. I don't know, maybe we just started getting insanely unlucky RNG runs the last 10 hours I've played, but I personally have 34 hours in the game, and it was incredibly fun when you could actually make a mistake here and there without full team wipes, which no longer seems to be the case.

[@michaelpetherick9571]

Imagine dying to a fucking turret so much that you quit playing LOL ur friends suck

[@_Matchu]

rend > dine -zero turrets/landmines/thumpers -two-thirds as many enemies (33% less) -scrap count is only EVER SO SLIGHTLY worse, but it's far worth it

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

but you need to cardio, dine's fire exist is just right next to yo ship

[@finnche9555]

Jojo is clutch! True MVP

[@nmaikowski8013]

glass bottles will make dogs go nuts and attack when you drop. You can easily move around in a crouch, save someone, or empty ship. Maybe place at back of ship with door locked. They go nuts attacking it

[@loganwalf8588]

all of my things were clenching at that Jester bit

[@-n3rv1o43]

brilliant videos in my opinion

[@shichibukaii]

3:08 bro said truck. Phasmo got to him :D

[@bladosDBD]

I’ve learned a new robot toy tech - you do not need to drop them to get them to stop making noise, instead just switch between them and something else in your inventory and it works just the same!

[@PomsonGamingII]

From what I've seen it takes much longer when you do this most the time though so dropping it is usually better I think

[@GabeR115]

I will say I recommend trying the skinwalkers mod again. With my group of 4 it doesn’t spam and results are often confusing or hilarious

[@LuxrayQuackers]

im trying to learn to play this better and even solo, ye videos giving me tips so thank you XD

[@AlissahKat]

I honestly think a heat system like brutal company might fix the titan issue. Titan being OP means you ignore everything else and only go titan, but if its UP theres no reason to go. So maybe some sort of heat system, where both the loot amount, and monster spawns go up the longer you dont go to a moon (and resets to 0 once you go there). So after a while, even experimentation will be hazard S+, but also have money to match. Otherwise, runs will always be march times 3, titan times infinite, which can get pretty stale tbh.

[@ragegaze3482]

that only works if it didn't cost full price everytime you switch planets. It wouldn't even be viable to switch from any of the hard planets to a different planet and back again until you are making multiple thousand quotas

[@afdhaladf9460]

now, here's we can compare the difference of fake fire exit. you must bring the shovel or any items you can hit. now go to he fire exit and hit them and you can hear that mimic sound

[@carloszuniga3090]

Insym the music thin is for the slime. You activate the music and the slime stand still in the place far away of the music.

[@Faiths123]

I wanted them to make a way to get to way higher quotas then we currently can.

[@BestRacer-ui4tc]

after only watching the first 30 seconds I can say that This is a certified classic

[@bruceantonio3080]

I legit felt his fear 5:45

[@peanut7809]

I alway enjoy watching your video❤

[@robertgrays8790]

6:00 Turret Aced the whole team!

[@DulArath]

What mods do you use for the player masks and hats?

[@JaFoJade]

I believe it’s called More Company, it’s one to have more than 4 players but also has the accessories

[@s_mai8970]

Wait.. orange sweater paw insym moment? cutesym

[@qlutch2998]

11:48 prolly a curious state giant

[@kalkkar]

New challange, you must use the the teleporter gamble to get in the building no matter what first buy after flash lights

[@PomsonGamingII]

you wouldn't even be able to take the flashlights with you lel

[@roberonin7400]

the main problem with dine is the loot spawns you can loose so much to it spawning under counters library shelves etc etc i have only seen loot spawn bad on titan in the large room with a big hole in the middle and it spawns lamps in the hole!

[@caasi113]

I think Titan should vary in the total AMOUNT of items, but instead make it so the few items you CAN find be WAAAY more valuable than anywhere else, making the insane difficulty feel a bit more balanced out. High risk for an even higher reward!

[@ShockzzDK]

What the mod on the left screen that let you see player pov?

[@ShockzzDK]

Right screen sry

[@fingerlessnoob8710]

i love these vids

[@judgement7279]

If you have someone on terminal you should try to play with radar booster it couners almost everything, jesters, coils and giants esp

[@no-mb6fu]

Dont forget to tell people its only the beta verson so they can test it out, its not the main game yet. So they will change it after feedback most likely

[@poisonfrogger6184]

Nah cause me and my friend duoed into Titan, there were turrets at both main entrance and fire escape. I got blasted and he got Brackened straight after XD

[@blazed2535]

I think the main problem with titan is that it has little more loot now than dine/rend. To add to that I’m pretty sure that the map size is double those maps, and paired with the turrets, and the fact that you need to explore everywhere to find loot makes the whole experience unbearable.

[@youkeika]

maybe they could increase the probability of eclipse on titan instead, and possibly increase spawn rates of certain things (i.g. girl, bracken, jester, mimic) the turrets are barely counterable

[@wteviper2]

Did you guys get a mod that buffs stamina

[@Utilizing]

Tbh I ran titan today for 1.6k quota saw 2 turrents but the mob spawns are INSANE we got there I went into the second room on the left and a braKen almost snapped my neck… then got jumped by a spider and coil head… havent seen the turrents you have seen (in vanilla) but i may just be very lucky

[@M4tchh]

The scan doesnt work only when a nutcracker spawns because of the shotgun

[@ReoMakesMusic]

idk why but i havent seen a lot of turrets on titan for me

[@SeudXe]

They go to Titan 58:00 btw

[@Abraham_Belmont_V]

Peace be upon you. ^w^

[@cristiancavaliere3604]

I feel like he's using a mod to increase the resolution, does anyone know the mods he's running?

[@eepmeds]

We go to dine not only to get more loot, we go there because theres also better food.

[@sandpaperunderthetable6708]

dine as in eat, funny

[@dosyinside.9067]

U up self channel to more subscribers with lethal company Good luck❤

[@yaoiconnoisseur420]

insym youre so foul LMFAOOAOA closing the door behind ur teammates abt to die 💀💀💀

[@magnusalferes1143]

first 4 times I went to titan I couldn't find any loot compared to assurance it could be bad seeds still

[@overkillgaming228]

i like listening to insym cry about every nerf in any game he plays lmao

[@nguyenxuanbach9048]

Did they remove ladder drop strat?

[@sleepfailure3914]

Kinda, they made fall damage actually kill you. I’m pretty sure you can still drop items though.

[@OmariFaith]

Idk but 16 flashlights is alittle extreme

[@WindowsDevPro]

Apparently Skinwalker and Yippie mod have a conflict if the Skinwalker mod isn't working right

[@TrollyTD]

A moment of silence for insym lost loot 1:15:18

[@slizzy4175]

i managed to get a titan map with 63 loot spawns and 6.2k total cash idk how without mods that add anything too

[@MissingLS]

How i send a message to my friends that green signal thing i mean .. what mod ??? 🙆🏽‍♂️

[@Deathclaw6364]

That turret placement in the first run was awful I mean the one on the staircase covered like 3/4 of the entire room and you had to get past it if you wanted back up and it's even worse when carrying loot

[@JonathanKanelis]

Tonight, we dine in hell!

[@dexter_2814]

they killed the want for titan because of the 1000 turrets

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

when I play with other people it's always rend or titan but never dine ^^'

[@serafimalone8118]

Average Titan fan: Average Rend enjoyer: 🗿

[@peet3449]

Is it just me or the air horn actually sounds like a very, very loud moan?

[@Karinda-Krinny]

Titan was amazing but then it changed for the worst

[@dot7084]

They need to make titan 600 then instead of 700

[@qlutch2998]

whats the point in going to dine when rend gives about the same loot but its objectively easier?Dine has 1.5 the monsters while having just a tiny little bit of more loot and a bigger indoor map.Main entrance is about the same distance and on dine you need a ladder to get into the fire exit.But i guess maybe back then it was better idk.

[@zenithsarcasm4992]

it is nice to be early

[@bostonvillar4539]

titan is so good bro i got to 10,000 on quota just going to titan only lol

[@masonzalud3503]

honestly they should make an underwater map with diving tanks and stuff

[@PomsonGamingII]

holy shit an underwater moon would actually be so terrifying

[@Bonkiss]

Let's not waste ANY more time! Let's hop into the game, LETS GO!!

[@ifightwithink13]

Jojo is best ship mom

[@HeaxenTheHomie]

Idk why people dont use Reserved Walkie/Flashlight slot and Always Hear Active Walkies. Waste of inventory space imo

[@zain0kar293]

hello

[@whiske5]

someone plz give me mod list

[@h2oQueen]

I dislike Titan so much, its imbalanced and I believe even those who may like the changes would agree that its not only challenging with turrets however the difficulty level of loot has decreased with monsters increased as well. If Zeekerss wants to implement this then imho, there needs to be difficulty levels much like Brutal and Brutal+ mods instead Beginner, Intermediate and Nightmare for example. I'm hopeful we'll find a balanace soon.

[@lynx5327]

yeah titan is just way more annoying to play now. I actually started doing runs on dine lmfao

[@no-mb6fu]

Well it's one dev so he's gotta do it by himself, it can be hard to Balance

[@h2oQueen]

@@no-mb6fu I agree, Zeekerss is doing amazing, I’m pretty confident that there will be a way. I hope mods ain’t clashing and causing an increase of turrets and lower loot.

[@thefallenwatermelon3495]

I still prefer titan, turrets are easy to deal with and are rarely an issue, but giants on the way back on dine and rend heellll no

[@Charziken]

Titan just isn't that fun anymore. I inversed into it with another dude and in a single section of the tunnel network we ran into EIGHTEEN TURRETS. That's not counting the other sections of the map

[@Chosonninja11]

you already have a better flashlight...

[@nandkishor...]

1:07:13

[@nixiedreamstar]

I legit think v40 is better than the current v45 update. The new items and stuff are cool but increasing the difficulty of a game that is already heavily stacked against you is not exactly fun. I just wanna have a fun casual screams with friends and not have to like go friggin' sweaty pants try-hard mode every time I play the game.

[@donttrustpickles2253]

1 view and 10 likes huh

[@Waddicker]

Might have to disagree that Dine is better than Titan. Maybe with the amount of players you have it's better as it's easier to move loot back and forth the more players you have, but on Titan where you can dump all the loot you get straight in-front of the ship using a ladder, it's so much more convenient for 3-4 player squads.

[@__Moff_]

weee! i'm here early :D

[@devarshihazarika4871]

most of the time they die because of communication failures and yet they say walkies are not useful

[@JonnZth]

Walkier ARE useful, but theyre NOT helpful in the long term since they eat a whole item slot. And as we've seen with the video, the amount of hands needed to grab loot is already a problem even without the walkies.

[@devarshihazarika4871]

@JonnZth thanks i didn't see it like that

[@azrienstewartenasen1508]

​@@devarshihazarika4871yeah yeah you say that but you never really understood them ffs

[@vzender2308]

early view awesome

[@vercogaming3997]

Titan changes are annoying, but I think the issue is with engaging turrets themselves. If you could go up behind them and melee them a couple of times to disable them, or give us a tool that allows turrets to be disabled if you get up close, then it wouldn't be as big of a problem. But we avoid Titan now. Not worth the trouble.

[@oskarhalvin7390]

do a challange where everybody has 1 slot

[@Shad0wReaper133]

1:15:18 genuinely annoyed me. "The ship's leaving" Yeah, in 8 seconds when you teleported Insym when he was 3 seconds away from the ship. Absolute lack of both situational awareness and not watching the monitor.