‘They nearly broke me’: Chef bans vegans from Perth restaurant

[@chuckmaddison2924]

Good on him. Vegans have the right to go where they want. They don't have the right to force their ways on others or try and ruin a great, well-respected business.

[@jamesmatheson5115]

Some Vegan activists ( urban terrorist) have been going into restaurants and abusing patrons and even throwing blood like dyed liquids inside of premises, truly they are brain damaged.

[@jamesthompson9003]

In fairness we already do force our ways on to others. If you want to start a dog/cat meat factory in the UK/US or most countries you'll be banned from doing so, even though pigs/cows are objectively more intelligent than these 'pet' species. Surely any meat-eater should be able to enjoy a dog/cat/chimp/orangutang burger if they want to?

[@DJaneSyria]

I don’t think letting a customer down at the eleventh hour is good customer service at all, which is what it sounds like happened from his own words. It also seems people are being awful because it was a vegan who was treated badly. If it was you having your booking cancelled at the last moment, would you be happy?

[@elizabethbradley4301]

To be honest this shouldnt be news. The problem with this is the group of people made it news and I guarantee its not just veagns getting and enjoying being self righteous and other people made it a big deal instead of living their lives, seeing the opportunity as it is and making a vegan restaurant and filling in the market available and people need to stop acting as though they are "supporting a cause" when in reality its stupid and pointless waste of peoples time. Also no one knows what or who a vegan is so realistically no one has actually been banned unless you walk into a restaurant yelling "im a vegan!". If anything they just dont have vegan food and arent going to be bullied into it by a few activists making normal vegans look like idiots. Not all vegans run around demanding food that is different to what is provided in a restaurant. Im allergic to garlic and its in everything and im not making a movement when they cant provide garlic free food at an italian restaurant. Its ridiculous, vegans are not a suffering victim group, move on people, sick of this fake suffering and the people who are "supporting" and fake heroics while ganging up on people

[@DJaneSyria]

@@elizabethbradley4301 yes, that’s a tough one, the garlic allergy. 3 of my friends are allergic to the allium family. I agree that people need to go where the food is they want to eat.

[@jonbob9872]

Vegans tried to cancel him. Shouldn't be surprised when he reacts in kind.

[@Fairybread68]

You just proved Pierce's point that Vegans are h-angry 🤣🤣🤣

[@angelaturner4376]

That thug is not a vegan he's a big fat steak eater in his closet imo

[@GazGuitarz]

and lie when they do reviews.

[@elizabethbradley4301]

Vegans arent, just the people who did this and the ones who are being self righteous bystanders who arent vegan joining in on the fake suffering again. If people dont stop falling for the fake victims etc and dont stop acting like this is a whole group of people problem and just a few vegans that are bully problem we're showing we'll never learn to see BS when it happens. This is clearly one of them because obviously this isnt something all vegans are doing. This behaviour is a spoilt idiot behaviour, not a vegan behaviour. Im not a vegan and Ive managed to work this out about all the fake suffering movements to bully people and then outsiders no better also blame a whole group of people for a few peoples dumb behaviour. im just hoping people will catch up and realise these movements end game is either designed to bully people and in turn make the whole group look bad which is in both ways a nasty thing to put so much importance on

[@laiorwyn]

That was my thought, their vegan interview was so rude! And using all those cute little virtue signalling phrases they do.

[@samclare3765]

I mean it is a debate on an important topic, both Piers and Joey got quite irate.

[@rondameier8168]

You can believe and support animal rights, I prefer animal welfare, and NOT be a vegan.... I will never be a vegan. I support animal welfare and humane farming, but I can do it without being a vegan....

[@asnail6550]

Any wonder he doesn’t want them in restaurant.

[@thomasp.crenshaw185]

If you had the life of a pig and had to go into a gas chamber, I think you'd be on the side of vegans. Not sure how you'd feel if you saw your mom marched into a gas chamber screaming for life.

[@samclare3765]

Anyone would react like this when put on the spot and challenged on live TV. He's not going to act the same when going for dinner is he? 😅

[@bigbaldin]

He was the one who acted infantile and stupid about one message he got after failing to serve the vegan meal he promised to provide. He then banned all vegans because he didn't like the criticism of one person, which is ridiculous (imagine he bans all Muslims for the same reason). And then some vegans protest in front of his restaurant, which is the backlash that has to be expected. And all you have in mind is what you just said? I'm afraid that most people here are just as simple minded

[@ALisgoofy]

​@@bigbaldindidn't he said he banned them because they all grouped together to hammer his business with 1 star reviews?

[@hubertramdinsanga6030]

​@@bigbaldinanother vegan ughh

[@sandyjamison5929]

It wasn't a single complaint. Her vegan friends began spamming 1 star reviews against Fyre when they hadn't been at the restaurant. Joey can't control himself or hold a respectable conversation.

[@RNeeko]

Of course not. he's a raging vegan. Just can't help himself can he?

[@BravEarth]

The reviews came after the ban...

[@joonlee30]

@@BravEarthyeah because of bunch of hangry vegans who ganged up on Fyre

[@gsyt2356]

​@@BravEarthand how is that any better?

[@BravEarth]

@@gsyt2356 if it was a single complaint making him ban all vegans is just discrimination and it says a lot about him

[@lisarendine9791firecracker]

Do you think a vegan restaurant would grill me a burger?

[@kellysouter4381]

Vege burger🤢

[@looloo4029]

@@AussieMummy-li8yfI am not going to start making special food for these whackos. They know where the exit door is and they can just leave.

[@thomasp.crenshaw185]

Yes a beautiful delicious plant based burger. Less heart diese, less diabetes and obesity. Go vegan today!

[@lisarendine9791firecracker]

@@thomasp.crenshaw185 if I want something plant based I'll order a salad, those veggie burgers are the worst.

[@lisarendine9791firecracker]

@@AussieMummy-li8yf they'd probably call the cops lol

[@rinzler9775]

A simple rule of retail is your hardest customers (like Karens) give you 1% of your business. Its a good thing if they threaten to never come back. In this case, the Karens would not go away.

[@nigebkk]

Why do people who realize they are on a train to nowhere land, raise their voices to make their point ? If you lose your rag you have essentially lost the argument. Next step is to throw stuff around .

[@thedave7760]

Next step is glue yourself to something.

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

Yeah even by his standards Piers was particularly insufferable in this interview.

[@n0odles86]

Or you throw up a little sheet in denial when 1 bee dies for every 20 almonds. The fact that they're imported by their 10s of thousands and forced in the area to just pollinate almond and avocado trees.

[@n0odles86]

​@@julienfroidevaux1143see my above comment. You're pathetic

[@thedave7760]

@@n0odles86 The Avocados for morning toast are flown in from places like Peru and Kenya. What will they do when planes only provide for special people.

[@CarriUSA]

He gives new meaning AND confirmation to Hangry! He went from 0 to 100 in anger in 2 seconds!!! 🤣 I can’t stop laughing!

[@petetherealrelentless6542]

I’m laughing so hard I have to keep pausing it.. otherwise it feels like me rib cage is gonna explode. 🤣🤯

[@55749]

It’s pretty funny how triggered vegans get.

[@thomasp.crenshaw185]

Go vegan, you'll live longer. Google plant based medicine australia, and you'll see leading doctors promoting a vegan lifestyle.

[@vilhelmhammershoi3871]

i thought the vegan guy was probably a payed actor. who knows! Power to chef Mountain!

[@JustJ0nathan]

It’s actually his brain screaming for nutrition. That’s why they’re so crazy. A serious lack of nutrition will have severe consequences on physical and mental health. I was vegan for 7 years and I can’t tell you how sick I was. A big part of me came back online when I returned to eating animal products.

[@lgflanang]

Piers, thank you for enabling all sorts of crazies to expose themselves to be selfish and angry and hungry.

[@DJaneSyria]

He made himself look foolish for sure. Most people eat avocados and almonds. I’d be interested if you’d be irritated if your dinner booking was cancelled last minute after being told you were able to be catered to. It can be difficult to find an alternative on short notice regardless of your dietary requirements, but I think most people are just being rude about vegans, and would be making complaints if it happened to them too.

[@velkanzi]

@@DJaneSyria Thing is, The chef admitted his mistake. If the Vegan had taken a different approach they may have ended up with a nice dinner on a different night, maybe even complimentary. That said, life is full of disappointment. It is not the problem, it is how you deal with it. Going out of your way to destroy someones livelihood is not an appropriate response.

[@thomasp.crenshaw185]

Go vegan mate, for the planet and your health. Less heart disease, less diabetes, less obesity. Cheers.

[@Artymiss272]

​@@thomasp.crenshaw185 That's complete and utter rubbish.

[@missflix919]

Tell me you're an abuser without telling me you're an abuser

[@mduncanmd17]

He looks unhinged!!! Christ!

[@yoachim91]

He is a convicted gangmember who stabbed some people and now he is complaining about our steak....

[@nackjicholson1940]

He's completely unhinged. Watch a couple of his videos and it becomes blatantly obvious. Lol

[@imJennJohnson]

This was a hot mess and I throughly enjoyed it. 😂 The vegan proved Piers and the Chef’s point about vegans being hangry haha.

[@thomasp.crenshaw185]

If you had the life of a pig and was marched into a gas chamber, you'd be vegan for sure.

[@mazi2646]

Because you love animal cruelty! You sadist!

[@missflix919]

Tell me you're an abuser without telling me you're an abuser

[@busynana7917]

Piers was much angrier - he interrupted continually & wouldn’t let Joey speak!

[@CrystalWings12]

@@missflix919 Tell me you're an idiot without telling me you're an idiot.

[@Myartspaces]

That former gang member seems agitated. He needs a burger.

[@peterhawkfan]

They literally brought that guy on to piss him off.

[@silascreel9568]

That vegan didn’t handle that interview very well.

[@petetherealrelentless6542]

He’s been doing interviews for years now.. I’m actually surprised the vegans don’t do more to stop him making them look like absolute morons. 🤣

[@JiluMiah-ek2rd]

He was a gang member, can’t have been a dominant one🎉

[@skathwoelya2935]

He didn't get the chance to speak, let alone handle anything! 🤭

[@raziq9794]

Maybe he left the gang because he was being extorted by the gang members.

[@petetherealrelentless6542]

@@raziq9794 maybe he was never in a gang.. just a bunch of nobodies calling themselves a gang.

[@klopgtur5931]

If theres no vegan options at a restaurant dont go there, or just dont be vegan. Extremely simple solution.

[@aneshiadixon8762]

Plants are living things just like animals but vegans never think they are killing them when they eat them. Life eats life to survive. It's the circle of life.

[@jiminverness]

Won't someone think of the vegetables!

[@jiminverness]

@@LunarCatWitch Nooo, those poor defenseless vegetables! Boiled, baked, some eaten alive!!!

[@jiminverness]

@@LunarCatWitch _"but not sentient lol."_ The vegans or the vegetables?

[@aneshiadixon8762]

@@LunarCatWitch They fight, they protect their young, they can even remember if someone has hurt them. Sounds pretty sentient to me. You should learn more about them.

[@aneshiadixon8762]

@@jiminverness lol. My point is that vegans have no moral high ground in the food discussion. And save the carrots!😃

[@k.s783]

I start conversations with “as a vegan” whenever I’m done talking with someone at a party.

[@k.s783]

Haha, yes, it works every time!😉

[@JiluMiah-ek2rd]

Cool trick. But there’s a downside, soon as I hear myself say “as a vegan” I’ll lose interest 😂

[@laiorwyn]

😂 Oh goodness, that's when the vegans rally to your side and you insta regret it.

[@JiluMiah-ek2rd]

@@laiorwyn it definitely backfires then! 🤣🤣

[@roaroa5291]

If you're unlucky enough to come upon a vegan, this will backfire on you horribly.

[@WilliamScavengerFish]

Is a predator concerned about the suffering of its prey?

[@baza0]

Some people who murder do feel bad about it, even some Farmers don't enjoy killing their animals.

[@SteversChed]

@@baza0 Appeal to emotions. That can only happen to humans, not livestock.

[@MichelleLevasseur]

People who don't live in reality are always angry. When you're standing on the back foot like fantasy dwellers do, you have no choice but to be a shrieking banshee. In this case, I applaud the move by the chef. He didn't fulfill his end and has admitted it. Nothing however deserving of a slew of fake reviews and negativity. But that's what happens with group think and the rejection of reality.

[@missflix919]

Tell me you're an abuser without telling me you're an abuser

[@MichelleLevasseur]

@@missflix919 You're an abuser....oops I guess I told you you were an abuser....

[@CrystalWings12]

@@missflix919 Tell me you're an idiot without telling me you're an idiot.

[@MaskedMan66]

"Standing on the back foot?"

[@halo3rat360]

@@missflix919 shut the fuck up

[@nev707]

I had a vegan friend who had no hassles eating at restaurants with meat eating friends as long as she could get a vegan meal which most restaurants do. They’re not all fanatics.

[@wetdroidedition2549]

It does not matter. It is the loud intolerant minority that matters. They are pushing their agenda on other people. Do you know some meat eater group that is trying to force vegans to eat meat or to cancel vegan restaurants?

[@valor1omega]

I have never once met a sane vegan

[@bronwyntillman6116]

@@valor1omega absolutel bullcrap!! I am a sane vegan and don't chuck wobblies. IT is MEAT EATERS I meet who like to pick fights., not the vegans!

[@skyeorange-k8w]

Nice that you know that! I agree!

[@seameology]

This hangry dude completely proves the chef's point!

[@tsuki6230]

Dude is hit with the ultimate truth. I mean just be honest and stop being a hypocrite.

[@leojmullins]

Who are the real haters? This is all hillarious.

[@Delete_The_Elite]

Good on him. Its his restaurant. Why should he have to appease those annoying pests

[@n0odles86]

​@@astrusalemezzocuore2144yes, those things that are culled by their millions when you want a salad.

[@velkanzi]

@@astrusalemezzocuore2144 It is common in English for a word to have more than one meaning ( true in other languages too ) So pest is a word to describe something that is annoying and unwanted , like weed for plants, but for animals ) So, usually used when taking about insects, but also, as a slang word, used to talk about people , and/or animals, too. So in the original comment of this part of the comments, Delete was referring to vegans as being pest ( the annoying vegans that is ), and in one of the responses , n0odles was referring to the insects, which are animals that vegan say that they care about, which are killed in their millions in order to produce vegetables/salad to a high enough quality that vegans would be happy with.

[@velkanzi]

@@astrusalemezzocuore2144 ah well, maybe an English student somewhere will benefit. As you were private, carry on.

[@Sparky_D]

As a Perth resident, i fully support this chef.

[@Artymiss272]

I do too 😂

[@Insanepyrowookie]

This is why people don't like vegans.

[@ThomasMaiens]

I love how they explain how vegans are extremely angry, then this guy shows up and proves it completely right 😂

[@yodoleheehoo90]

I accidentally walked into a vegan cafe rather than the one I usually go to since they are almost next door to each other, I decided to at least TRY one of their food items on their menu but the more I read their options the more appetite I lost to even bother wasting my money, I walked out and got myself a crispy chicken BLT panini right next door and fresh ground coffee with REAL cream 😂😂

[@BravEarth]

Flesh made with tortured bodies and stolen milk from a raped, enslaved cow and a dead calf just so that you can have a few minutes of sensory pleasure. Come on there are plenty of alternatives just try some out. Vegan chicken, vegan burgers, vegan milk... If you don't like some you can always try something else and anyway animal products are not worth all that suffering and death.

[@Larry1631]

💀

[@BravEarth]

@@Larry1631 that's you in a few years if you keep eating animal products

[@The_Deaf_Aussie]

Im live in perth, first time i heard of this. Im gonna book in at this restaurant, and give it an honest review.. which probs gonna be a 5 star.....😂 i support this chef.

[@The_Deaf_Aussie]

Also.. pigs killed in gas chambers in Perth. 😂 fark orf mate... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pootube2024]

​@@The_Deaf_Aussiecry me a river soyboy!

[@cadencebarbaro1737]

@@The_Deaf_Aussiethey are… my uncle worked there and it traumatised him

[@n0odles86]

​@@cadencebarbaro1737my uncle was an astronaut

[@MiscName]

Go for it! He said in the newspaper, he’s getting heaps more people in there now. Supporting him. It’s great to see.

[@stevesmodelbuilds5473]

If you want Vegan, go to a Vegan restaurant. They're not 'banned' because they're Vegan, they're just on notice the restaurant won't ben over backwards to accommodate their unreasonable demands. Sure! We'll give you noodles, but we can't guaranty we didn't cook shrimp, chicken or fish -- or bacon 😮😋-- in the same pan. Talk about online bullying... 😠

[@suzannekirkwood6392]

Went to dinner with some friends, one of them is vegan. We'd decided on a steakhouse so weren't expecting the vegan friend to come, he did and ordered salad and a veggie burger. We did ask him if he was worried about cross contamination- he said no, I'm not allergic I just prefer a vegan diet, it won't hurt me. We take turns choosing where to eat. He's picked a vegan place before , no synthetic meats, I tried an eggplant burger which was really good

[@mikepilley6611]

There was a restaurant in Toronto that had a group of vegans protesting out front for several days. The chef moved his butcher block to the front window and did his meal prep there in front of the protesters.

[@Osc1llateW1ldly]

so animal abuse was on full display was it? And then you wonder why there's a war

[@Lorkanthal]

and when the story broke the news he was booked solid with reservations.

[@Osc1llateW1ldly]

@@Lorkanthal could this be coz most people couldn't give a damn about animal abuse?

[@SteversChed]

@@Osc1llateW1ldly Not really surprising since everyone in the modern world uses animal products. Maybe if the less than 1% of people who pretend to be against it actually practiced what they preach we wouldn't look down on them. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? I predict you won't answer the question again.

[@mikesteve3039]

@@Osc1llateW1ldly More likely is that people are sick of others forcing their agenda down everyone else's' throat. So the protesters actually increased the amount of meat consumed at the restaurant. Well Done!

[@colintittums8043]

I’m in Perth and his restaurant is fully booked most every night cause of this!

[@856Edwin]

Exactly! Idiot vegans like this don't realise their actions are counter productive.

[@TheSproutarian]

I spent years promoting a well thought out vegan diet, but the reality is that most people are unable to make it work.

[@petetherealrelentless6542]

Well that’s because it lacks good healthy fats, complete protein and a plethora of micronutrients. You can only make a vegan diet “work” for so long before you start looking like a concentration camp escapee.

[@petetherealrelentless6542]

Actually I should say a concentration camp prisoner because there’s no way most vegans could escape in their current condition.

[@jiminverness]

Well, even the best vegan diet is either missing essential nutrients, or they are present in a form humans cannot absorb or convert to useful forms. Hence the only truly healthy vegans require supplements to maintain health.

[@redryderaus]

Or maybe you and your vegan diet is wrong, not the majority of people?

[@lallalucas4145]

Just think what you could have done with that time and effort

[@thenephilim9819]

Vegans often say that they hate the looks and taste and texture of meat. Then they order vegan burgers, vegan sausages and vegan steaks. And while the original meat products contain like 1, 2 or 3 ingredients, the vegan versions contain lots of artificial flavors, colors, preservatives, chemicals, etc. which aren't really healthy and not good for the environment, but the products are much more expensive than some good ecologically produced meat from the region. That doesn't make any sense at all.

[@christopheschiltz9976]

Contrary to what you say, I don't think a lot of vegans "hate the looks and taste and texture of meat". They stopped eating meat because it's (obviously) bad for the animals and also bad for the environment. The reason vegans are eating these products is because they ate meat their entire life until they went vegan. Also to think that meat only contains 3 ingredients is utter nonsense, you just failed basic chemistry, furthermore "chemicals" aren't automatically "bad" or "unhealthy", in the same way that "natural" foods aren't automatically "good" or "healthy", I wanna see you defend someone drinking snake venom because it's natural... Also 99% of the meat is factory farmed, I can't fathom how people are always talking about this "local ecological organic" meat, that's just absolutely not representative of the world we live in...

[@SteversChed]

@@christopheschiltz9976 That isn't true. They all continue to use animal products. It's all about playing pretend for virtue and attention.

[@hevonperseensuti]

We eat animals. There is nothing to discuss about. If some people don't like it, they can eat something else, like grass etc.

[@nackjicholson1940]

😂😂😂👍

[@C.O._Jones]

I want the meat plate, with extra meat. And a side of meat.

[@C.O._Jones]

@@AussieMummy-li8yf Oh, yes, please!

[@sidecarmisanthrope5927]

Would you like any bacon with that?

[@C.O._Jones]

@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 Sounds great!

[@mottony]

Can't forget the meat with the meat meat

[@justindavis1546]

Keep buying the almonds. We will keep growing them. If killing meat is murder, why isn't abortion?

[@gwenyfred1743]

As an Australian I’m embarrassed. Sorry all.

[@wolfsokaya]

Don't be. He got his own parents that should be embarrassed about him.

[@stephenbachman132]

Don't apologise for Joey.

[@gwenyfred1743]

@@stephenbachman132 I’m sorry stephenbachman132 but I’m truly ruly sorry for that embarrassment of an Australian

[@elizabethbradley4301]

Dont apologise, its not an australian thing so dont make it one. Im a NZer and I think australians are great and the culture doesnt blame an entire group of people for a couple of idiots bad behaviour. As soon as you do that youre turning into a bad communicating american. This has nothing to do with australians or being vegan, its just about a prick using their diet to annoy a restaurant owner and it shouldnt have been made news. Thats the thing that I think is most unproductive, that something so stupid became news. In reality this piece of news is quite stupid and is worded in a way that magically now all vegans are apparently pricks when we know not all people are running around doing this, it was just a couple of morons. Bullying and lack of intelligence is a person thing, not a vegan thing and im really missing the free and calm communication of the more intelligent side of our societies.

[@adheeshbharat2644]

For what Joey is a great peroson

[@andyetheridge]

I have friends that converted to veganism a few years ago. I have eaten at theirs many times and some of the food i’ve eaten is ok. Except the time i was given an egg free omelette made from chick pea juice. The problem now with them is they try to lecture me on how a plant based diet is better, better for the planet, blah blah and yet guzzle supplements by the bucket load because their plant based diet lacks the proteins that a carnivorous diet provides. Climate change to them is a major problem. Cattle causes this problem and that problem, methane, carbon footprint etc. Now the hypocritical part… they own an electric car and when you tell them how batteries are produced and the way the minerals are sourced they’re in denial and won’t listen to reason. They’re big Formula 1 fans and when you mention the carbon footprint of moving from race to race, planes, trucks etc, it gets to a point where they won’t listen to reason.

[@skathwoelya2935]

I've been a Vegan for decades and don't take supplements. A Vegan diet is balanced.

[@adheeshbharat2644]

Give me some damn studies also they might be bad cooks also there are also hundreds of high protein vegan food

[@caseyandrews7]

Vegan food is made in factories using plenty of chemicals, additives, preservatives with little real nutritional value. Also requires more fossil fuels to produce because that's what factories need to produce, package (in plastic) and transport this chemical food substitute. It's another way to boost pharmaceutical profits and kill of the brain cells by slowly depriving them of real nutrition. It is another con to reduce world population through virtuosity and ignorance. I hope more of the brain dead embrace Veganism as it will help to thin the pool of breeders by going over the cliff like the lemmings they are. Think of the movie Solyent Green.

[@Artymiss272]

​@@skathwoelya2935 Where are getting your Vit B12 from? Please don't say meat substitutes as those are just man made, chemical filled non food.

[@terryjross1184]

Hypocrites Do whatever you want but shut the f up please utterly boring warriors Just elitist selfish manipulators

[@alibongo1028]

Joey's unhinged, needs more meat 😂😂😂

[@richardkilley6838]

Joey is such an angry little man? Someone get him a steak!

[@PvZgamingfan6215]

1:19I don’t like vegans but why does he still say god bless the vegans if they dropped the rating to 4.2 to 2.8

[@Tina-xj9rj]

That vegan dude seems really angry and full of anxiety.

[@laiorwyn]

He is. He's like all activists, especially the loud ones. If you disagree they're full of virtue signalling and are so used to their online echo chambers that they can't understand when someone doesn't think something they care about is important. This is a really good example, he couldn't stop going on about the pigs, but didn't give two shakes of a lambs tail about the bees. Not killed by pesticide? Not my problem. Doesn't matter that they're killed by malnutrition and overpopulation problems like parasites and disease.

[@jakeA0903]

Activists throughout all of history were angry about injustice. Are you really gonna say the people angry about the lack women’s rights or African American rights were in the wrong because they were mad about it?

[@skathwoelya2935]

I saw a lot of effort to get a word in. How would you feel if you were invited onto a show to express your opinion and then weren't allowed to? Shame on Piers. He has gone from exposing the ludicrous to expounding his own prejudice. That doesn't help anyone and brings his integrity into question.

[@laiorwyn]

@@skathwoelya2935 it goes both ways, he was not letting others talk either.

[@skathwoelya2935]

@@laiorwyn The restaurant owner had quite an innings.

[@bobross8569]

As we evolved as a species we scavenged meat from animals killed by predators,this helped our brains to grow,as our brains grew we made tools and we developed tactics to kill animals and get fresh meat,allowing further brain development,so basically a lack of protein is causing vegan's brains to grow increasingly smaller.

[@kellysouter4381]

That explains a lot

[@JeffTheHokie]

That wasn't the main driving force behind humans becoming so intelligent. Our intelligence comes with a major cost. Compared to other primates our babies' heads are enormous. This makes childbirth dangerous for both the baby and the mother. Walking upright changed our hip structure compared to that of other apes. This made it possible for females to give birth to babies with larger heads and still survive. Our lineage was able to develop larger brains than the other apes could. There were plenty of deaths along the way from babies with too big of heads and mothers with too small of birth canals, but eventually the survival advantage of intelligence outweighed the childbirth hazard of our enormous heads, and we became the species we are with the traits we have.

[@janesmith1398]

Lack of Vitamin B12 as well.

[@lucy-plays1913]

makes since

[@skyeorange-k8w]

Some of the most intelligent people in history have been vegetarians.

[@JTruong3rd]

The Hypocrisy is amazing from this Vegan, this guy just literally laughed off the cruelty of what happens to the bees just to keep his Avacado. Looked up myself and Piers was right about the things that happens to bees just for that avocado farm.

[@myleswelnetz6700]

I like my veggies, but I would rather eat meat.

[@angerainbow9200]

"The guys an idiot" Nailed it.

[@kayegooey7454]

Piers is biased on this topic.

[@wolfsokaya]

He clearly looks like he is missing some minerals.

[@petetherealrelentless6542]

acts like it too 😂

[@sidecarmisanthrope5927]

And brain cells.

[@samclare3765]

After 10 years of an inadequate vegan diet, a mineral deficiency would have led to far worse negative health effects than an attitude and passionate debate 😆 I think he's doing just fine

[@kingdaleclarke]

Lol I feel sorry for him though, dude needs therapy

[@Teo_live]

@@samclare3765 That isn't true at all, it depends on severity of deficiency and availability of healthcare. Some of your more quackie vegans like Freelee manage to stay alive due to being rushed to the emergency room and being pumped with minerals when needed.

[@pegaz6529]

Killing animals for food and animal cruelty are two different things. Vegans keep putting them together.

[@StopTheCensorship234]

There the exact same thing, and exactly the same for the animal you clown

[@SteversChed]

@@StopTheCensorship234 Remember that. You do realize many things in our lives are made with the same animals right? Computers, roads, televisions, etc...

[@LauraNiemond]

I’m tired of small groups of people telling us what to do!!!! Let people make their own choices!

[@brianferguson7840]

The bees die from "transhumance" constant movement. Hives are placed in an area untill the trees are pollenated. They are moved every couple of weeks causing unbearable stress. The bees dont die from mites because they are too valuable to their owners not to be treated.

[@gaiamorgosi7181]

Listen, it isn’t pretty to ban anyone from your restaurant, I’m sure he’s aware of that, but they are in the wrong for destroying his business just because he doesn’t fit their standard, ruining a business that cost him a lot of hard work. I respect others and the lifestyle they choose for themselves but they souldn’t destroy people who disagree with them, if I can’t eat gluten, I won’t choose a bakery for lunch.

[@battlevet9264]

Can’t even have a debate what a poor spokesperson for your argument

[@BNOBLE981]

My view is if your going to a restaurant you pick from the menu not demand its changed to meet your preferences. If you want something specific you find a place that serves it as part of their menu or make it yourself at home.

[@yoachim91]

Exactly, 1: you go to a restaurant to taste a chefs cooking. 2: They don't have everything you want fresh all the time so he makes a menu and specials based on what he has. 3: You don't ask a chef to prepare you fake food, chicken is a chicken not a fake chicken

[@bigbaldin]

Your view sounds ok, but you didn't listend to what has been said nor do you look into the story. He was asked beforehand if there are vegan options, and he promised to make a certain vegan meal. The vegan was glad he was that nice and did go to the restaurant a few days later, but she didn't get anything of what has been promised. He forgot and didn't had anything to eat for her except for some vegetables, which made her sad and frustrated and which is why she worte him a PRIVATE message to adress this mistake. As a vegan, you will not find many vegan restaurants, but many restaurants with vegan options. She didn't had any special wishes, she didn't wanted a fancy vegan meal, just something nice to eat

[@D0x1511af]

so tiger lion cheetah hyena should be banned because they're carnivore ? it's animal cruelty too?

[@carasimpsontanooki9188]

And sharks and bird of prey

[@smug070]

In the end, it doesn't matter what you want. If you want to be vegan, go for it, but if you wanna tell others to be vegan, you will in most cases, just turn them into even bigger non-vegans.

[@hotwax9376]

This.

[@meredithisme3752]

Good on him I personally would deal not nicely with the vermin

[@C.O._Jones]

Is there a spray or something to repel them?

[@eileencoulter6263]

Animal blood sprayed on them

[@C.O._Jones]

@johnnynotenglish9751 …he said, looking in the mirror.

[@C.O._Jones]

@johnnynotenglish9751 Lol, incels like you crack me up. Keep spankin’ it kid, cuz that’s the only way you’ll ever get any.

[@astrusalemezzocuore2144]

Vermin?

[@missourimongoose8858]

It's 100% a privilege to be vegan and from what I've been told folks need to check there privilege

[@wplains]

Their. What privilege is that?

[@jakeA0903]

“Vegan alternatives” how about rice beans lentils and pasta? These are some of the cheapest foods out there lol

[@Teo_live]

@@jakeA0903 And that is a great way to suffer malnutrition, you should never promote being a cheapskate vegan.

[@christopheschiltz9976]

It's 100% a privilege to be eating meat as much a 3 times a day and think that that is "okay" and "natural" just because it's how you grew up... We only have to go back 50-70 years in time to see that nobody ate as much meat as we do in current times. It's obvious that it's bad for the animals, but it's also scientifically proven that meat is one of the worst things you can do for the environment. Curb your privilege...

[@missourimongoose8858]

@@christopheschiltz9976 so when do you plan on telling that to the African bushman? The native american tribes that live near the artic? Or the tribes that live in the amazon? Lol every single culture on the planet if given a choice choses to eat meat, as a matter of fact cooking meat is what made our our species smart because it takes alot of nutrients to support a brain as big as ours in relation to our body size and as far as animals being bad for the environment lol who comes up with that number exactly?

[@lb8141]

Joey is a childish, angry man. No self control.

[@trinubisataurus]

Eat a snickers, you're not you when you are h - angry.🤣

[@damiaan7021]

those vegan activists are always eratic aren't they

[@brendahosman6862]

This made me laugh so hard!! Thank you for making me laugh. Murdering bees lol 😆 I love it

[@jamesthompson9003]

Not a great argument is it, though? If someone is against pigs/dogs/cows/chimps being slaughtered for food and the best defence you can mount is a whataboutary non-point about commercial bee industry 'murdering bees' (which vegans are against anyway), you've probably lost the debate

[@velkanzi]

Actually it is interesting. Something like 70% of the food ( real food that is ) that we buy in a supermarket is possible because of plants pollinated by bees. Also that fact that Avocados and almonds have extremely high water requirements in their production, and it seems high demands on bees too. So they are perhaps not an environmentally friendly crop.

[@yoachim91]

@@jamesthompson9003 It is a great argument, the point is that we are humans and we need to eat and for us to eat things have to die is it a cow a pig or a bee. Is a cow better then a bee? No. Do we deny that we kill animals, no. Vegans are the once acting like they have moral highground but you have nothing because you're still killing bee's,bunnies,foxes,mise......... On and on. So you're no better then us so just stfu about it and eat whatever you want and leave us. Is that easyer to understand then sarcastic piers?

[@missflix919]

Another moron. Tell me you're an abuser without telling me you're an abuser

[@CrystalWings12]

@@jamesthompson9003 Well, it's called 'hypocrite.'

[@jtmunn4496]

He cant shut up for two seconds

[@DJaneSyria]

Is it only vegans that eat almonds and avocados? Most people eat avocados in my experience, and almonds. I think the restaurant owner can cater to meat eaters only if he prefers. I don’t know the full story, but judging from what he himself said, sounds like he let her down at very short notice after agreeing to cater to her group. That’s poor customer service and he should have said no from the start instead of ruining someone’s night out. If a business doesn’t cater to vegans, I go to one that does. No big deal.

[@DJaneSyria]

And Joey wasn’t allowed to finish an answer or have an opinion Piers didn’t agree with so not sure why he had him on.

[@looloo4029]

I wouldn’t cater to them on principle….show them the menu…..take it or leave it.

[@mykaat]

Don't really understand why he couldn't give her a potato and some vegetables. I would have been very happy with that.

[@DJaneSyria]

@@mykaat same.

[@Lorkanthal]

the issue is that she then went and got all her vegan friends whom had never eaten there and review bombed him to hell after he tried to accommodate her request. And this is assuming it was a big issue and not simply that she didn't like how the risotto tasted.

[@venomshouse8570]

Much respect to that man for banning all vegans. The people that come in to order will all have a smile on their face as they indulge in a nice bit of that pig that was in a chamber 10 days ago :D

[@chrisdfx1]

I'm not vegan, I love meat, but I just googled pigs in gas chambers, and it's absolutely heartbreaking. I'm legit almost in tears.

[@yoachim91]

Seriously? What did you expect, disneyland? What do you think happens to the male born calfs of milk cows? Or to male chickens? You kids are so soft , i've hunted and slaughtered animals since i was 8. Nobody ever said feeding 8+ billion people is easy or without pain

[@Artymiss272]

Raise your own then

[@Nil-tz6gy]

Buy your meat from local farmers or raise your own - Easy enough to avoid supporting

[@wendyfreeman32]

I'm not vegan, I would be ill from the lectins and oxylates, etc. People don't realise one size doesn't fit all, I have RA, better since going carnivore. Kidney problems, lung problems ( bronchioectasis), atrial fibrillation , gut issues. I feel blessed I know my limits of what food can do, I'm 73, and my health has been better now than the last 40.

[@Artymiss272]

@@wendyfreeman32 Amen to that someone who knows exactly what a ton of plant food does to the body 👋 I've tried with vegans on this subject and all I get is that I'm evil for eating my fellow animals 😂 nice to see someone recognizes one size certainly doesn't fit all !

[@adamconnelly2162]

There is utterly no point in the vegan getting angry about this. As piers kept saying I will eat meat and that’s pier’s decision so the vegan needs to back the hell down because getting aggressive to people when people choose to eat/serve meat isn’t the answer. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was one of the people who glued himself to the motorway to let those car engines run for hours and hours

[@skyeorange-k8w]

I still eat cheese, and cream in my coffee, but I stay away from meat, and hardly eat fish anymore! But I never criticize meat eaters.

[@RafaelBorba-l7g]

The restaurant can advertise that the only vegans not banned are the cows (grass fed) and chickens (grain-fed).

[@kurwawojk557]

Piers wasn't ready for some based responses. Anyway the chef can ban whatever cuisine he wants, and the people shouldn't demand him to jump through hoops. Points were made, but Piers you make a fool of yourself trying to lure people this way.

[@brettchristoffel6391]

I can never work out if vegans are elevating animals to the level of humans or lowering humans to the level of animals. Veganisim is very speciest, who are they to discriminate what can be eaten by what. Are they going to tell the lion not eat the Zebra.

[@valor1omega]

A KZbinr and deranged vegan said people should just eat people. So my guess is lowering humans to animal level.

[@brettchristoffel6391]

@@valor1omega I don't think sociopathical nut jobs would come close to describing vegans.

[@valor1omega]

@@brettchristoffel6391 Agreed

[@martinkelly3724]

They just need a meat diet to cheer them up.

[@Anonymousones1]

Get him a steak

[@Azraiel213]

No! Let someone deserving have it instead! 😂

[@rozbailey6889]

Good lord, what a mess that was 🥺 - all I know, is I have been on the Carnivore diet for 3 months and have reverted autoimmune Graves, arthritis and a multitude of other ailments. I buy meat from organic caring farms who humanly grow and slaughter their meat. Yes, there is a lot of animal cruelty, but I am not responsible for everyone else’s actions in this life.

[@sidecarmisanthrope5927]

An Australian study showed that more animals are killed and displaced through plant farming than meat farming. Vegans are hypocrites.

[@jakeA0903]

How do you humanely slaughter an animal that doesn’t have to or want to die

[@n0odles86]

​@@jakeA0903what about all those small animals that get sucked up by the combine harvesters for your pitta bread?

[@jakeA0903]

@@n0odles86 more of those animals die from animal agriculture because the majority of plants we grow are fed to the animals we farm, so going vegan is still the better choice if you care about those small animals

[@jakeA0903]

@@VieleSpiele4Fun the most important factor to consider is that for the majority of the developed world, we can choose not to eat animals. Since that option exists, it’s not necessary to kill these animals regardless of whether it’s painful or painless. So the kindest choice is to not kill them at all because they don’t want to die and we don’t have to kill them.

[@Marek_Blex]

The argument here is basically: "To hell with every animal. Bees die too!"

[@daz7122]

All this meat talk makes me hungry. All I can think of is a webber bbq and some nice meat.

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

How do you know some one is a meat eater ? Don't worry they will tell you .

[@valor1omega]

​@@julienfroidevaux1143 How do you know someone is a vegan? They will get in your face and yell at you like a psychopath.

[@Teo_live]

@@julienfroidevaux1143 So.... +97% of the human population will tell you what they eat?

[@Thetablepower]

Wow , that vegan is so annoying

[@wl2977]

A hypocrite attention seeker.

[@mobius4897]

Facts don't care about your feelings 😂

[@Thetablepower]

@mobius4897 what he said wasn't facts 🤣

[@MaverickSeventySeven]

How dangerous to the environment is the forcing of "plant based food products" given the excess pesticides used that kill nature's insects, small animals, voles etc, and prevent birds feeding off the insects!?

[@davyp2993]

Piers missed the point which to me is the real point of the bees dying in California. The almond and avocado growers import honey bees every year from all over the US to pollinate the fruit knowing that they will be slaughtered after they have pollinated the area. The honey bee is not native to California, and neither are almonds and avocadoes. This is why African bees ended up in America, as they were trying to find a bee tolerant of the mites that killed them. So yes, the bees die because of the almonds and avocadoes.

[@looloo4029]

Honeybees work extremely hard for very little in the way of nectar and pollen when placed in almond and avocado fields. They cannot collect enough food to take back to their hives and the colonies begin to starve. Almond and avocado crops just don’t provide enough nutrients for honeybees to survive the blossom period. The hives need extra nutrition via apiarists. My husband is a hobby apiarist with 15 hives. He feeds them throughout each winter to keep them healthy and strong.

[@DC-su4eg]

The whole bee argument is silly bc I've seen plenty of meat eaters consume almonds and avocados. Thanks for the laugh, Piers! 😅

[@Teo_live]

@@DC-su4eg I think the point flew over your head. He was pointing out the hypocrisy, he wasn't pointing out a vegan exclusive trait (well other than being always hangry).

[@DC-su4eg]

@@Teo_live I must of missed it whilst laughing bc Piers is perpetually hangry. (That's called sarcasm ; -) 😘

[@micahmarielceballos6213]

It's quite funny how the chef held up his cookbook with the Pig title while Piers and the vegan were arguing. Ahaha.

[@jontompkins1844]

This guy is enough to make you run away from veganism! He doesn't even understand what debate means.

[@rhyfelwrDuw]

I stopped eating animal products for a month to detox and I did feel good afterwards, but I couldn't have kept it up because I love meat, eggs, honey (can't drink milk for health reasons). If people want to be vegan or vegetarian, that's totally up to them, but others shouldn't be bullied by those groups. In the town where I live a group vegans hounded the customers using a local fishmonger, so much he lost a lot of business and closed down. One of the vegans now has the fishmongers shop as a hippy clothes store and in his window has a sign about loving people - what a hypocrite!

[@danielcurtis1434]

I gotta say banning people based on one example???

[@zubversivezigotto9731]

If I want a kosher or halal steak, I would not demand restaurants next door to serve it to me, even with a week notice. Why is it different for vegan customers is baffling.

[@CT-vm4gf]

That Joey guy is totally unhinged 😂 imagine having someone judge and criticise you for your diet.

[@bigbaldin]

Imagine failing to understand that veganism is a philosophy and not a diet, hence why he criticises the killing of an exorbitant amount of innocent, sentient beings without any necessity. He literally showed pigs being killed in gas chambers, which is a typical process and you talk about "diet"

[@residentjess]

@@bigbaldinhumans need animal derived foods to thrive. So yes, Joey needs to knock it off.

[@tashaKYUM]

After Joey opened his mouth and speak ………✖️🤚🏼 and not even showing his respect to others

[@jimwinebrenner620]

If only we take the passion and energy of the ludicrously confused vegans and turn that toward the complete elimination of human trafficking.

[@koby4094]

Get him a bacon slice.

[@kittygirl_thetortie498]

As a MD, imo this vegan man seems to be having symptoms of b12 deficiency. He looks very unhinged, on the edge and over anxious. One of the main reason vegans are angry all the time or have a short fuse or feel depressed is d/t B12 deficiency. Look it up.

[@jimosullivan1389]

Plus lack of EPA and DHA.

[@DC-su4eg]

You claim to be an MD but failed English 101. Look it up. 😂 My sense of humour is very much intact.

[@Teo_live]

@@DC-su4eg Perfect English in the youtube comment section isn't a prerequisite for being an MD. You are making an issue out of nothing.

[@Cablecol]

I love the ex vegan stories...they are happier that they once again included eggs, dairy, shellfish, fish, fowl, lamb, beef or pork in their diets🧀🍖🍗🥩🥓🍔🍕🌭🌮🥪🍳🥛🍼.

[@theoldone485]

Send Joey to Gordon Ramsay.

[@yoachim91]

Yeah joey where is the lambsauce or i'll shuff a beef wellington down your throat

[@Niorky]

Guy is annoying!😂

[@zonechillout]

Now we know where Piers gets all his scientific ``facts``. Says alot about his intelligence.

[@MaskedMan66]

Not a bit of it. His sources, maybe, but not his intelligence.

[@Navalick]

When you search more about it, there is a lot of reports supporting that case. Even guardians' one is a conclusion of an specific investigation which is valid point to be brought to a judicial case. Piers just lacked in adding more references. The other guy didn't contra Piers' argument because he brought a general statistics which doesn't tell much for a specific case that was being discussed. The question is whether almond farming practices harm the bees.

[@SteversChed]

Speaking of intelligence, "a lot" is two words.

[@delvine13]

There are thousands of vegan only restaurants and they crying about 1 non-vegan🙄

[@Marek_Blex]

Didn’t know that vegans are only defined by almonds and avocados 😂😂

[@leefrancis007]

The sound of those pigs screaming did disturbe me 😬

[@looloo4029]

Goat kids scream when you put a halter on them and tie them up so you can groom them and trim their feet! 😂😂😂

[@radicallykind7266]

God bless you Joey, the selfish a-holes can't face the truth 🙏

[@damien86]

The man has patience that I don't have.

[@yoachim91]

Is it fun to be mad at 99% of the people for what they eat? Do you wake up hating us for eating steak or how does that work exactly?

[@Artymiss272]

​@@yoachim91They do seem to hate us for eating meat, then say poor little animals. It's ok to love animals but not your fellow man, apparently 😂

[@terryjross1184]

@@Artymiss272 they wanted to kill his business Mountain has milked this the whole time Just all nonsense

[@narcissus79]

Cry harder ya sook