they're adding your ideas to lazer

[@lawrencez.6902]

4:18 "and naturally any new player's first instinct is to be offensive in public" HELP

[@Nekomosh004]

😆

[@luizzex]

just saw someone with 1hr playtime spamming the nword in a lobby

[@terrawolf]

😭😭LMAOO​@@luizzex

[@MandrakeGuy]

CUP OF THE DAY IN OSU? oh nah im actually gonna start playing the game again

[@queencakiya]

and thats when hefest got this run

[@marcosantoniomaximodasilva7075]

Map of the day

[@akatsukilevi]

Wirtual is gonna come to osu! now

[@akatsukilevi]

AND HEFEST GOT THIS RUN

[@akirimew]

@@queencakiya en aften ved svanevossen plays

[@natem135yt]

one annoying thing in lazer for me - when I find a cool map, I go through the mappers profile within lazer itself to see other maps that they made and download them. If you click on a users name then go to the page for a beatmap, then hit escape, it doesnt take you back to the users profile, it exits everything altogether. When using the general beatmap search page, if you hit escape when on a beatmap page it takes you back to the search results. It would be cool if hitting escape took me back to the users profile instead of closing the profile and beatmap pages altogether.

[@spaghettiking653]

Agreed, this is an annoying thing... it might be easy to do, too, depending on how complex the code is for it.

[@lol-th4pj]

yea fix would be ctrl+esc or shift+esc to go back or something like that

[@nogardeci]

lazer doesnt care about mods when sorting maps by difficulty, it just sorts them like nomod

[@kajxqeirscl]

will be fixed in the song select rework

[@Lunethia]

to be fair, the difficulty sorting is a very hacky implementation from what i can tell :>

[@nogardeci]

@@kajxqeirscl lesss go

[@NewbieFirst]

​@@LunethiaI believe stable stores star rating for all possible mod combinations for all maps, which is implausible to do with the current amount of combinations.

[@Lunethia]

@@NewbieFirst Doesnt change that the current implementation is hacky :P What @kajxqeirscl (god that name is something else) said is the accurate answer here.

[@waxxx14]

OMG thats me 😊 (I hope they do make it as an actual daily battle royale tournament and not just a featured beatmap)

[@floopyy_]

since theyre naming it dailly challenge i think itll just be a featured beatmap with like "get >97% on this with HDHR" or something

[@ocococococococococococococ3267]

if it's just featured map it gonna lose any interest. for multiple reasons but the the biggest issue for me is that it need some sort of division. If not, it's gonna be boring for the 99% that are not in the top 1%. Also it will not be very exciting as much as competing in a tournament with knockout. i think the trackmania format for this is just already perfection

[@ocococococococococococococ3267]

Just checked the GitHub and you are gonna be deceived. It's just a random map and a single difficulty selected every day that is just highlighted as map of the day. I think the guy in charge of developing it doesn't even know what is CoTD in trackmania and so what you meant in your comment So no real tournament with knock ou and everything No division(you compete against people with 10 times your skills (no fun)) 24H (no excitement)

[@SomeNewerAccount]

Just checked the GitHub and i think you are gonna be deceived. it is just one single difficulty of a random map that is shown as map of the day. No real tournament with elimination and all No division (you compete with people 10 times your skills) 24h (not exciting) Just copy pasted on this alt because almost all of my comments on my other accounts get auto deleted

[@waxxx14]

@@floopyy_this is what they are focusing on first but looking at the dev discussion thread they do recognise the multiplayer aspect could be worked on after as peppy said this “it depends on which direction we go with it. trackmania started with the "spotlight" version and expanded with realtime events on top of that at predesignated times”

[@enzoys]

bro I like how transparent these videos are. Nice work guys!

[@blockshift758]

Pity from our programmer Gods.

[@Sakura_Adachi]

a mod "dodge the beat", to have a ranking to know who has caught the least fruit

[@Nekomosh004]

YES 😆

[@smooshymemes]

OMG that would be hilarious XD

[@KizukiKotataki]

almost similar, there's a ruleset touhouso which is like touhou but dodge the beats as touhou

[@keymash]

that reminds me of that one tewi ma park map where it’s a ctb maze and you have to avoid as much fruit as possible

[@xenai.]

@@keymash I was thinking of the space invaders map

[@MaHy9]

cant wait for scrapie to get 100 wins on map of the day

[@Travixty]

xdd

[@UltraProchy]

vaxei would be this games scrapie imo if he played sadge

[@seazeiscool]

its so awesome seeing so much work and progress being done on lazer in the past year, its so nice to see

[@alexplaysgd]

it is cool

[@Not_Gumballer91]

Never expected you to be interested in lazer lol

[@syzzii]

hmm

[@Aktimoose]

it's great !!

[@Not_Gumballer91]

Hi javelin people

[@CiscoRocksss]

I think doing something with the multiplayer aspect of the game could be really fun. Like game modes, battle royal , 1v1s, 2v2s, 4v4s. If people could queue up for matches and face eachother I think it could become super popular if done right

[@astraha.]

On top of that lets literally add Skill/Rank based matchmaking.

[@gaugea]

@@astraha.ehh

[@Frezzyy]

@@astraha. thats horrible

[@Xtramelon]

osu! ranked elo when

[@astraha.]

@@Frezzyy cant tell for sure. U are probably right.

[@enscry]

thank you for bringing back the original 5 default songs, they are universally loved

[@500z]

what would be awesome would be a new duels 1v1 ranked gamemode. Would be in a tournament format with different mod choices and maps, and first to 5 wins gains a certain amount of ELO. It would also make laser unique and give someone a reason to play it because it promotes being well rounded and consistent, instead of relying on dt, stream, etc retry spam like the pp meta.

[@ObliqueXuba]

This would be 10/10

[@finesseandstyle]

Yes, please. farming pp can get boring but competing in a 1v1 is a lot more fun like the MaidBot

[@phaZZi6461]

yes please! this sounds so fun

[@windyaik]

i think it would be cool if we could see pippi again as an osu!lazer guide in-game where she gives us tips, tutorials, a brief run-through on the game mechanics, settings, etc.

[@F3st1v3]

That would probably stop a lot of the mainstream new players from playing

[@spaghettiking653]

@@F3st1v3 Why?

[@windyaik]

@@F3st1v3 they can just turn it off whenever they want to

[@Arae_1]

5:37 so we're not gonna talk about that epic play peppy set

[@Mid.IX-]

option for showing fast/slow on 100s when you hit early/late would be perfect. It's easier than having to glance at the hit error meter.

[@greenwalnut774]

maybe a pitch change to the hit sound according to tapping error

[@Meyy1105]

yea, especially when you start to hit a bunch of 100 on a stream and you want to know if ur over or understreaming

[@ronileviakangas7969]

yeah or being able to have different color 100s depending on the early/late timing.

[@raffimolero64]

do skins not support separate sprites for early/late? or are you saying this should be an option for all skins even if they don't have separate sprites?

[@Mid.IX-]

@@raffimolero64have a default sprite yes

[@sinon4]

now let users disable the profanity filter if they want

[@Milenakos]

the pannenkoek explanation though 😭

[@redninja8006]

One thing that I want to see changed that I haven't seen anyone talk about is the song player In the main menu, it doesn't play whatever song is shown next like standard it instead plays whatever song is next based on the sorting option you picked after in the song select menu, so if I search an artist in the small song player pop up I will get seemingly random songs after the first one I pick.

[@Imaproshaman7]

I think an option for it would be really nice because both are good honestly.

[@descai10]

It would be awesome if mappers and the community could add skillset tags to maps describing what skill types the map requires, which players could then search for on the site and in-game. Example tags would be "streams", "jumps", "tech", "alt", etc. It would make finding maps for different skillsets a lot easier.

[@afterplayer69]

0:48 BRO EXPLAINS LIKE PANENKOEK THIS IS CRAZY

[@Loomosu]

I missed having scorebar to check unstable rate on lazer with HUD off when I tried it, cool to see its possible to change now.

[@Yuberz]

Eagerly awaiting those skinning changes! Hope we get song select skinning soon as well as showing the rank achived on a map without having to click it like stable does

[@maklovitz]

3:35 yoooo I would love the same functionality for beatmap select. Different songs can have very high differences in average LUFS or decibels. A toggle that normalizes the volume would be so helpful, especially for players who play different song one after another :D

[@Splomf]

There's an existing feature for MP3 called ReplayGain. It tells the player to lower the volume of a track by an amount of decibels, but doesn't change the data of the original mp3 file, meaning that you can do a scan of the mp3 files and store the replaygain data as ID3 tags on the MP3 or in a database for all your beatmaps. I like the EBU R128 implementation that foobar2000 uses and think that using a similar thing would be a fantastic QOL feature.

[@gutoguto0873]

This is a great suggestion

[@Tommo_]

Yesss loudness normalisation is SUCH a good idea

[@some2-Idk]

THEY DID THE PANNENKOEK EDITING STYLE

[@melikabreak]

I think it would be cool - if osu wants to look more arcade-y - for osu to do something while the user is idle. Like playing through a random map with auto mod, and when the user comes back they can just simply press any key or move their mouse to go back to the main menu screen.

[@Reletr]

Didn't see one of the issues I addressed last time, so I'll comment it here again in hopes that a timeline can be given for it: Early/late 100s should be added as feedback when you click on a circle, since a UR bar is pretty useless if you're trying to focus on aim/flow. The issue was posted to github 6 years ago, and there's been very little update about it since.

[@Mathilde_Moksha_333]

I would like that as well! That said on stable my "fix" had been to make the bar enormous (like 4/5x) so I could still see if I was early/late with my peripheral vision, maybe give that a try in the meantime? 🤗

[@Qerewe]

That daily challenge is an interesting idea! And super hyped to finally be able to play osu mania on my phone in portrait mode!

[@Ninako_maid]

It's nice to see how annoying bugs that bother you are fixed. Especially editing skins one, and stacking hitsounds when rewinding in the editor. Still waiting for the opportunity to watch my own and other people’s replays in catch without ghost misses

[@doesthiswork28]

real

[@tomppeli.]

I did come up with a suggestion to the whole "late" and "early" text on 100s, where the pitch of the hit sound goes progressively higher and lower according to how early or late any given 100 or 50 is

[@TheNED14]

Really liking the improvements lazer has been making lately ! I'm glad to see some work is being made on song select in particular, so here are a few of my issues with how it currently is : 1. Screen feels too oppressive and bloated, making the search/order bar retractable into a semi-transparent state would feel great already, also I've always found weird how much space the leaderboard takes compared to stable, we can barely see the background because of it :/ 2. Ordering by difficulty feels bad, it doesn't seem to work with certain mods and not being able to see each map's star rating visible on the carousel before clicking on it just feels convoluted, showing all the map's info when there's only one map in a mapset could maybe help with that ? 3. Carousel scroll speed is capped very low, it doesn't match stable or lazer's leaderboard behaviour, might be personal taste but I prefer the "fluidity" the faster speed gives you 4. In mod screen, I expect right clicking a mod to trigger the mod's personalization screen but it doesnt do anything, feels a bit odd 5. Probably something already heavily requested but the ability to group by x criteria like stable would be a big plus as well 6. Not related to song select in particular but I liked to click things with the keys I use to click circles in game (for example to click the skip button), and it doesn't seem to work on lazer

[@justalex727]

LMAO THE BIRD IS SO CUTE SOMEHOW

[@RaFaReAcH]

About pp... struggling to make the final call on the deployment forever will just build this expectation that it needs to be perfect before deployment, which is not going to happen... tbh, just patch that update up as best you can with some previous testing from players, and then you can balance it with every update until a good sweetspot is found. Deploy rate change you cowards :3

[@tanza3d]

hi

[@johnseward4267]

stop yapping rara

[@finesseandstyle]

Yeah what's the worst that can happen? Pro players start moving to lazer and abuse the rate change to get absurd pp. Like more people getting into lazer is a bad thing? Things can be balanced out eventually anyway

[@NewbieFirst]

I mean, it wouldn't be the first time pp system gets abused, think first 900 on haitai with 3modTD, zan'ei, or the first public iteration of slider calc implementation. A rate change getting ranked won't break the pp system or provide that many exploits, it'll only get the overall pp "inflated" (or rather better reflecting the true potential of players) and tighten up the competition due to giving certain skillsets more than 2 maps to get pp on.

[@tsunyoku]

the current state of PP is not at all about expectations for reworks to be perfect, i'm not sure where you got this idea from

[@SloweDogMusic]

Although there are only like 5 of us left, we still want TAG in lazer!!!

[@Cane-Aubright]

is that a pannenkoek reference when you're talking about skinning

[@starlii10]

That's basically what it feels like. It's just missing the SM64 file select music

[@Ametheyst1]

add an random Beatmap button, that goes and finds a random Beatmap for you to download. make it have a few filters like for if you want loved, ranked, or graveyard-ed maps. Another thing you could add is star rating filters so it only will give you Beatmaps in the star rage you set.

[@WheissRS]

It's crazy how fast these implementations are, props to the team who can make this possible

[@sean12444]

im glad to hear changes will come to classic scoring soon, i can understand the negative multiplier for standard but im strongly against a classic multiplier in mania as opposed to simply converting scores to have the proper ratios with ln tail judgements also please make mania ss include 300s again, all marvelous is wayyyyy too strict

[@Vplaytg]

YOOOOOOO the skinning tool update ive been wating fooorrr lets goooo!! PPY and all developers working on this deserve more props for the ways they listen to the community honestly!

[@tuankhoanguyen6198]

You kept the promise about mania on mobile. Tysm

[@natruffles]

the customizable speed DT thing has been by far my favorite feature of osu, would be awesome if the plays i set using that would be ranked 😢

[@neotopisch494]

It feels sooo good to see something I criticted to peppy with the pause countdown in taiko is being actually listen to and implemented it in a cool way to fix it! I am so thankful for this game

[@ebblies]

RIP osu! typing for now 😢😢😢

[@sl3p-]

it would be great if the star rating element you can add to your skin showed the value after mods not just the base value

[@desyrvn]

Thank you so much for listening to the feedback :)

[@Nbrother1234]

2:49 _help me, this is so clean_ 😭😭

[@larn2598]

idk if its already been said before but in stable you were able to double click the top of a category like "recently added" and it would bring you to the top however in lazer it doesnt. it'd be a nice update to transfer over because its a bit annoying to scroll up manually in lazer unless im missing something

[@Xtvo23]

One thing I'd really like to see in osu! is a beatmap preview in song select. In Etterna for example, you can press spacebar to display the chart and seek to different parts in the song to see what it looks like before you play. It's useful for checking what type/how difficult a chart is before you decide to play it. Not sure how difficult it would be to implement, but it would essentially just be viewing a replay of autoplay within the song select screen.

[@ReimeiNoRaimei]

You could kinda use the editor for that

[@BillSullivanReal]

Nobody's talking about the fact there's a "practice" button shown in all the menus at 2:47 which if it includes a way to make quick practice diffs is actually super hype

[@ricter]

peppy there is some basic skinning stuff that would be really good to get added. the other day i wanted to do something simple like change the default combo colors on the skin i was using, i launched the skin editor but couldn't find a way to do it.. and i can't find the skin.ini file to manually edit rgb values like i could in stable. i think a basic color picker for gameplay elements should be a priority, i appreciate your work on this area!

[@Qerewe]

AHA! I knew it was a good idea to stay up til 2am!

[@ZebbyX]

Same here XD

[@Yotanido]

It's true. Every time I open a new game - any game - the first thing I do is lower the volume. Games always start out WAY too loud for some reason.

[@hihello6409]

passing scores is no longer satisfying

[@an0th3rg1tch3]

nice to know that i wasn't the only person who had problems trying to edit a mania skin for myself that would've worked in laser, and also that the problem is already being fixed. keep up the good work~

[@LazyBones1008]

Combo scaling removal and rate up is a must for a competitive environment. Also please make the UR bar universal for all skins instead of me having to eyeball it every time

[@Kniteface]

I don't know if you guys are still looking through these for feedback but I know one thing holding a lot of my friends back from making the switch is the lack of an option to use the classic song select layout from stable

[@firefraction8156]

This may be a pet peve but all the backgrounds feel crunched for a better word. When I'm flicking through the now most of them look decapitated as most faces appear in the top 1/3 of the image.

[@Splomf]

One major thing for me with lazer is skinning (I'll be checking it out in the new update and seeing what's what) and hitsound issues. In some old maps the wrong hitsounds get played, Deadliner by p*light is an example. I think there was a github post about it, but there's been little progress on it for a few months. It would be nice to see (or hear for that matter) that fix happen. But it's not the most important issue. Thanks again to ppy, smoogy, bdash and all the other amazing devs working on OSU! You guys rock

[@Lenticular90]

I've always wanted this, and now that all the gamemodes have scoring that is more or less on the same scale (1 million maximum score), this might be feasible: May we have the ability to have multiple game modes vs multiple game modes? For instance: Two teams with 2 mania players, and 2 standard players each side? The difficulty would be standardized since both teams are playing the same maps total. I feel like this could be cool

[@grass9764]

I wish lazer will be as skinnable as stable in the future

[@hundvd_7]

3:33 I honestly fucking LOVE how loud Lazer is on a first start osu! should be played loud if you wanna enjoy it best, and this kinda teaches newcomers this pretty well And the intro is just so fucking amazing anyways that you WANT people to notice it

[@Hiandbye95]

Please take good care of your ears, you only get one pair.

[@Coldy_Zyrix]

I'm honestly so grateful for the work the whole team has put into this project and for working so closely with the community. This makes the game as best as it can be; thank you so much for developing lazer this way!

[@Leiksa_]

Hi, I don't know if I am too late to comment anything, but anyways... I just recently got back to osu! after years long break and I wanted to completely switch to lazer, I love it. BUT there is few things I would love to see. 1. Beatmap selection I don't personally like how you need to click on a song and then the actual beatmap thats shows up. I would love to be able to have an option to see the rank I have gotten on the beatmap while scrolling thru them and being able to just click once to get to the beatmap of my choosing, just like how stable does it. On stable you can scroll thru your collections and see all the ranks you have gotten on all of the maps that are in there. Other approach: Currently when you are scrolling thru maps, you can see all the difficulties shown as circles and with different colors. What if when player completes difficulty X on that song, it would switch the circle with the ranking they got? I think this would fit lazer's sleek design perfectly. If this happends I am completely fine with the current way of scrolling thru beatmaps. I just want to see the ranks I have gotten without needing to click the beatmap. 2. Skin editor This is probably already in the making? But I would love to see possibility to customize about everything you see on screen, including beatmap selection. Like you could change pretty much all the sprites. This would make it possible to make some really good skins. 3. Font I personally don't like how the score font looks like when looking up for example global scores. This kinda goes back to the skin editor and being able to switch fonts. love the work, keep it up :)

[@Jaffa__]

This is really exciting! As always, lovely to see the hard work behind the scenes

[@marshy2]

2:10 Why is there a osu!typing folder??

[@umadbro4493]

it's the name of a skin (as u can see it's inside the folder ("skins")

[@blessing2757]

Highest PP play of the day/week/year in each categories would be really fun to see.

[@Lagger130]

When spectating in multiplayer if you click to enlarge a player's view the sound effects (clicks, fails, etc.) are coming from I think a random player, and not from the one you're spectating

[@ebisuch]

4:14 straight up "fuck" okay? I didn't expect that ngl xD

[@AlFasGD]

Good, we also need work on the map editor Also consider reworking how timing points work. A timing point does it all, timing and non-timing.

[@notxquangg]

I'd like lazer to has like a themed UI for major tournaments or events like osu! world cup, that'd be really sick

[@_lore_629]

6:02 BRAZIL MENTIONED LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Fluiding]

thank you so much from the whole community for being so incredibly transparent!

[@kainuipenaloza9395]

Man I love all this- sucks I'll be going away for a while and won't be able to see it. On the bright side, in two years perhaps the game will be in the best state it's ever been.

[@gumishima]

I love the skin editor update, but amazes me that there is no grid snapping yet, how there isn't a single person on the team that also dies with the things not being easily aligned... Is it... Just me?

[@Nintendude61]

the biggest thing lazer needs imo is for the editor to get close to feature-complete

[@LixyFox]

Lots of important changes, keep it up and thank you for the work ^^

[@eversiege]

I would suggest adding opacity to skinning items, so I can actually put accurately behind my gameplay, like maimai does

[@Eikorunu]

I really hope cup of the day is across all mainstream modes please make sure that happens, and for mania a 4k and 7k cup

[@XLGamer10]

Honestly, it's probably best to implement pp for more mods soon, and make changes to it if needed later

[@Kidsbtw]

It would be nice if you added a slider for hardrock (HR) allowing players to practice accuracy (mania mostly) a bit easier ... Kinda suprised this isnt a thing already as it is in most other games

[@Mathilde_Moksha_333]

It would be nice indeed! I've always been utterly unable to play HR despite being able to FC 6.5+ star maps because the combination of AR10 + OD10 + small circles is too much at once. So much so I might be able to FC 7.5* nomod before I can feel comfortable playing easier HR maps! A mod or setting for HR that turned AR to 9.6 or 9.7, OD to 9.5 and increased CS by, say, 25% instead of 40% would be great! 🙏

[@NerdTheBox]

lets goooo thank you for acknowledging mania scoring being cooked. really cool to see the improvements being made all the time

[@12Nicole123x]

3:26 Probably every PC jumpscare on speakers (I turned down the volume because I knew it's going to be loud)

[@VeryButtery]

Glad to see skinning getting attention. Really bothered me to attempt to fix my skin only to have to trial and error to get things in the right spot. Still could use some backwards compatibility for skin elements

[@quaternaryyy]

oh also theres this crazy bug where the ctb catcher will teleport across the screen if you hold an arrow key and press Skip, and it's still in the game since 2020 because peppy said thats how skipping is supposed to work (????)

[@mightyhelper8336]

I still would like to see who is alive during a multi lobby and also maybe a mod to be able to revive in multi? like stable... Also, maybe a toggle to see the scores of all players after a map, not only those who passed...

[@Frezzyy]

honestly new game modes like cup of the day is such a great addition

[@KGR_]

A PP COMMITTEE?! I would love to have that title on my resume

[@iOmegaToxic]

I would like to imagine how stream maps and tech maps would look

[@yorunoken]

cup of the day in osu is so excited omg I can't wait for it

[@sento8368]

Customization of sliderball follow circle!

[@astraha.]

That cup of the day thingy gets me thinking. What if u can categorize it with ranks? Like the Best score in the 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 Digit area for the daily map. This doesnt inlcude derankers and the map (difficulty) itself of course but I wouldnt want to try getting my score up there with people much much better than me (it would be more like impossible). Its exactly the same like in stable where u can categorize scores in country and friends. Or overall global or local.

[@TheInfectous]

it's probably best and easiest to just have a variety of maps (or a mapset) up and let people choose what difficulty they want to play. if it functions like cup of the day, there is a qualifier and people will be sorted into lobbies based on their performance so it doesn't really matter if someone doesn't choose "the right difficulty"

[@huorami]

every update i get even more excited

[@vincentcf9653]

I love lazer but please bring back the way songs were sorted by difficulty before, where the mapset is group together and placed depending on the highest starrating in the mapset! Maybe it could be an option if u want to sort it that way or the "new" way aka how it is in classic! plzzz it was really neat

[@ampersand64]

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING ABOUT SKINNING ... still waiting on being able to change skin elements also, re-importing skins from stable creates annoying duplicates. Duplicates that are very difficult to clean up.

[@Sharlashaskashinkawa]

Please add a "No hitsounds" toggle - Playing with 0% effect volume is sad because menu sounds are also gone :(

[@VeryButtery]

I kinda want there to be an optional legacy song select. Not sure if this is something you would want but I’m sure it would help with player base transfer over. Skinning and menus are the biggest things holding be to stable. Lazer feels infinitely smoother but things like sort by date added are still broken

[@worldx1091]

I don't know if this is a terrible idea for osu!mania on lazer, but as a FNF player, I'd love to see in-game tools to make custom modcharts and notes to make new mechanics!

[@TIGIWTIW]

Would you guys be interested in making the sudden death mod be able to be configured? Like setting it to specific misses, like for example 10 miss, 5 miss per play? I think this would help alot of players on slowly practicing maps by lowering the amount of misses they can have per run

[@Fakedis]

The day i will be able to upload maps from the Lazer editor seems so close yet so far

[@Lagger130]

For multiplayer lobbies - it would be cool if the host could choose to create a lobby with a star rating limit that is visible when browsing the lobbies, so that people no longer need to put it in the lobby name

[@patchu0136]

When you import large amounts of beatmaps you can't select "all files" in a folder using dat import function in lazer client. I wish this could be added