‘They’re all correct’: Umpire explains Anzac Day calls | Round 6, 2019 | AFL

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AFL umpire Shaun Ryan explains the rationale behind some of the controversial decisions made in the final quarter on Anzac Day.
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@harriskeranis3626
@harriskeranis3626 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best bullshit I have ever heard in my life and I don’t even go for Collingwood or Essendon
@alexandercharlesedwards-ace-
@alexandercharlesedwards-ace- 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@nickcatanz236
@nickcatanz236 5 жыл бұрын
Mate don't hate on the umpires just because they made some mistakes. All human beings make mistakes. And besides all the calls are correct. Read the rules mate.
@antonypersi4061
@antonypersi4061 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@mitchconnolly9195
@mitchconnolly9195 5 жыл бұрын
Umpires make mistakes, but these aren't examples of them, these are perfectly adjudicated according to the Laws and spirit of the laws.
@ausdip1916
@ausdip1916 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@PandaMan-ie6lg
@PandaMan-ie6lg 5 жыл бұрын
This video is just making the game seem way more complicated than it seems. 9 times out of 10 all of those decisions would’ve been called. This is complete bullshit. (I’m not an Essendon supporter)
@harrypower3914
@harrypower3914 5 жыл бұрын
thankyou
@ausdip1916
@ausdip1916 5 жыл бұрын
True
@rheannanbloem2130
@rheannanbloem2130 4 жыл бұрын
You're right
@wenumechainuwinta9886
@wenumechainuwinta9886 4 жыл бұрын
Thank god someone has a mind
@zacharyfoster1908
@zacharyfoster1908 3 жыл бұрын
Surely I'm a kanga, that's not fair
@caddaye7687
@caddaye7687 5 жыл бұрын
So either these were correct calls and every other game they umpire is umpired wrongly or they are just covering up themselves.
@aidanrich1641
@aidanrich1641 5 жыл бұрын
Good point, umps these days are disgraceful
@manmaori
@manmaori 5 жыл бұрын
Since you have such a wide range of correct and incorrect calls from when this has occurred before, feel like sharing a couple of them?
@caddaye7687
@caddaye7687 5 жыл бұрын
Z 95 no need to get heated mate, I’m a saints fan and don’t really care about this game. But if you have watched footy during the last ten years you know that a lot of these freekicks that weren’t paid are often paid. In other games even if you eventually get a handball after being tackled to the ground the umpire pays holding the ball simply because you had an earlier chance and got caught. What we really need is an investigation into how we can better umpire the game, we don’t need to change more rules.
@manmaori
@manmaori 5 жыл бұрын
KOWAN alright I get that but, here you have an official afl umpire explaining to you why they aren’t paid free kicks an such, who better to explain the situation then an umpire? As far as and investigation on how to umpire the game properly I 100% agree with you on that umpiring has been nothing but trash this year and last but to use the umpiring from this game as an example I think you’ve missed your mark with that, your never going to get 100% spot on umpiring but going back over and watching this game I think it was one of the better ones having only 3 free kick difference between the too sides in such a heated game I wouldn’t call it any different. But that’s just my opinion mate, not heated mate was on a couple other comments I just can’t stand to see the honours and privileges be shadowed by people complaining about umpiring and such when the game is so much more win or loss on the day
@caddaye7687
@caddaye7687 5 жыл бұрын
Z 95 I understand you. I just felt like this was an attempt to cover up their mistakes. They would never have admitted any faults because that would cause even more controversy. But yeah I understand umpiring is very tough because you can’t always be in the perfect position and you are expected to make no mistakes as a professional even though afl players who are also professionals make mistakes all the time. Every sport has this problem and Afl has it even worse because it’s 360 degrees game and unpredictable. I just find it frustrating that games can be decided by one or two perhaps dodgy free kicks.
@muscat9271
@muscat9271 5 жыл бұрын
They didn’t discuss the one when Darcy Moore dropped the ball after being tackled by Merrett
@MNML_Reevesy
@MNML_Reevesy 5 жыл бұрын
One of his leg hairs must of kicked the ball
@dostap7748
@dostap7748 5 жыл бұрын
We missed the one where Stringer drops the ball cause he is as trying to do a dusty and be a hero
@beefrandon8776
@beefrandon8776 3 жыл бұрын
They are covering them selfs up
@archiesinfield9333
@archiesinfield9333 2 жыл бұрын
He had no prior so play on
@avariwilson1455
@avariwilson1455 Ай бұрын
He was literally going to kick it, then he got tackled. Use your eyes 🙄
@benpaton5738
@benpaton5738 5 жыл бұрын
Their knees touched the ground that means it’s a complete tackle- these decisions should have been holding the ball!
@rubsmay7304
@rubsmay7304 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Paton exactly just cause he hand passed 5 seconds after he got tackled to the ground doesn’t make it play on
@falcon5095
@falcon5095 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Paton so did the ball
@AwesomeEth9
@AwesomeEth9 5 жыл бұрын
There is no AFL rule that mentions anything about knees on the ground.
@stevenreed5514
@stevenreed5514 5 жыл бұрын
I think your knees have been touching the ground too often yourself if you honestly believe that has any official bearing on the interpretation of holding the ball.
@mitchconnolly9195
@mitchconnolly9195 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see where it says anything about this in the Law book
@sammcdougall1263
@sammcdougall1263 5 жыл бұрын
"Don't call high free kicks to players that contribute to it being high" Literally explaining the pendlebury high as he obviously ducked his head further down when he saw the essendon players coming. DISGUSTING
@AwesomeEth9
@AwesomeEth9 5 жыл бұрын
This was explained very clearly. Scott put his head over the ball and two Essendon players them moved into him and made contact with the head. Ducking in a tackle is different to putting your head over the ball.
@hongsmoker
@hongsmoker 4 жыл бұрын
It's a veteran move mate, cant be mad at that, NBA players flop all the time and get bullshit calls like this, Pendles saw the opportunity to pick the ball up while simultaneously understanding the essendon players would attack him. And so he positioned himself to be granted a free kick, he simply lured them into giving away a free kick, its called veteran experience...
@lyndakerep9560
@lyndakerep9560 5 жыл бұрын
So with the last one if I get tackled without prior if I throw the ball it’ll be ok because I made an attempt?
@zacharim_1149
@zacharim_1149 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the rule, which is the AFL's fault, and not the umpire's.
@lachlanmckenzie1486
@lachlanmckenzie1486 5 жыл бұрын
apperently which is BS
@BOMBER404
@BOMBER404 4 жыл бұрын
zacharim_ no he said that the umpires took that tackle as a prior opportunity but the other tackle they took as a push in the back. They “take” certain tackles in different ways and the way they judged the tackle was completely wrong implying that they gave the first tackle, leading up to the push in the back, wrong and so they gave the Collingwood player a opportunity to kick it out of his hands. If they thought it was something different then in any other circumstance that would’ve been a incorrect disposal.
@hongsmoker
@hongsmoker 4 жыл бұрын
as much as u wanna be mad about that call, technically its the right call, look how stevo is tackled.. there's no prior when someone grabs ur arm and swings you down as soon as u pick the ball up + he made a genuine attempt to dispose of it considering he had no prior
@mark8860
@mark8860 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@xavierpravednikov8012
@xavierpravednikov8012 5 жыл бұрын
On the second clip, he was taken to the ground and he had prior opportunity so that would have been holding.
@provolonewashingtoniii1366
@provolonewashingtoniii1366 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bulldust. Essendon were robbed.
@Adam-dm1se
@Adam-dm1se Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@TigerTime3672
@TigerTime3672 Жыл бұрын
@@Adam-dm1se I'm not a Bombers fan but they were robbed
@Adam-dm1se
@Adam-dm1se Жыл бұрын
@@TigerTime3672 you're wrong buddy. Watch the game
@TigerTime3672
@TigerTime3672 Жыл бұрын
@@Adam-dm1se Are you sure about that? because I watched the game, and I am telling ya now the bombers got the rough end of the stick.
@Adam-dm1se
@Adam-dm1se Жыл бұрын
@@TigerTime3672 Well you're wrong bud. I can tell you three goals the Bombers kicked as a result of dodgy umpiring. You can't tell me one Collingwood goal that came from dodgy umpiring
@Emma-dx7qd
@Emma-dx7qd 5 жыл бұрын
Collingwood got favoured by the umpires. The Jack Crisp one was clearly holding the ball he was already on the floor before he handballed it
@manman7404
@manman7404 5 жыл бұрын
DWADE3 just like all their games so far in 2019
@prs-fanboyye8917
@prs-fanboyye8917 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Essendon fan mate, the umpires were on and off it went both ways, it's easy to fixate on unfair umpire decisions when it come's to your team, but you have to analyze the game and observe both sides/clubs and evaluate if it's fair or not. That's a real sports man Biased Team Ignorance is like patriotism in a 3rd world country Haven not left and seen what else is on offer
@mattschaper2915
@mattschaper2915 5 жыл бұрын
This is the most logical comment I have seen for this video, good on you @@prs-fanboyye8917
@isaacmarincic391
@isaacmarincic391 5 жыл бұрын
man man bro that’s how we felt in the grand final so
@AussieSam
@AussieSam 5 жыл бұрын
man man even know we lost to Geelong and west coast, but we will just forget about that 🤷‍♂️
@jaggerfenton2413
@jaggerfenton2413 5 жыл бұрын
Throwing is now a handball 🤨
@LincolnHollowayy
@LincolnHollowayy 5 жыл бұрын
FaZe Jagger is now the Pringle’s logo?
@jaggerfenton2413
@jaggerfenton2413 5 жыл бұрын
LincIsCrazy how
@hongsmoker
@hongsmoker 4 жыл бұрын
you don't have to dispose of the ball correctly if you have no prior, go back and re-watch the stevo clip, hes tackled immediately and has one arm to dispose the ball (no prior opportunity) is that to difficult to understand?
@mangoman178
@mangoman178 5 жыл бұрын
How is that second one "No prior" wtf AFL.
@xavierpravednikov8012
@xavierpravednikov8012 5 жыл бұрын
limtedouche how are any of them no prior
@mitchconnolly9195
@mitchconnolly9195 5 жыл бұрын
He literally said that the play had a prior opportunity. Listen closer. If the player immediately disposes of the football with prior opportunity, its play on
@liamcollis714
@liamcollis714 5 жыл бұрын
limtedouche he got the handball off within a second of getting taken to ground the afl never said he didn’t have prior
@PD-gt7on
@PD-gt7on 5 жыл бұрын
Not a Dons or Woods supporter - but it was a great game. Totally crap umpiring however. And Essendon got the rough end of it.
@ryanwebb9457
@ryanwebb9457 5 жыл бұрын
Typical AFL head in sand. Holding the ball both occasions.
@tobythedevil1874
@tobythedevil1874 5 жыл бұрын
Nah m8 you're delusional
@mitchconnolly9195
@mitchconnolly9195 5 жыл бұрын
How so mate? Explain yourself
@tobythedevil1874
@tobythedevil1874 5 жыл бұрын
@@mitchconnolly9195 neither of them had prior opportunity and they didn't try and throw the ball to a teammate so a not so legal disposal is allowed
@mitchconnolly9195
@mitchconnolly9195 5 жыл бұрын
@@tobythedevil1874 I'm agreeing with you man. Was wondering how it could have been Holding the Ball
@jayem7
@jayem7 5 жыл бұрын
I go for Essendon and it was a close game, pies played good the first half and we had the last half but they can’t say the game was umpired well
@nickfallaw5714
@nickfallaw5714 5 жыл бұрын
Ja Ay are you kidding
@jayem7
@jayem7 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Fallaw pies slowed down the last half, they played really good the first half.
@arthurneddysmith
@arthurneddysmith 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickfallaw5714 -You clearly have never watched an AFL game before.
@Les_Grossman80
@Les_Grossman80 5 жыл бұрын
Bulls&@t. If you've broken a tackle that is your prior. If you get tackled after that it should be instantly holding the ball if bought to ground.
@jamesgavralas3940
@jamesgavralas3940 5 жыл бұрын
"it should". That's not what the rule is mate...
@desiolle2874
@desiolle2874 5 жыл бұрын
normally if you go to the ground with the ball and THEN dispose of it it's holding the ball, even without your first tackle
@KG-nt3nf
@KG-nt3nf 5 жыл бұрын
you've got no idea mate, its only if the ball touches the ground not the player...
@adamjohnson5057
@adamjohnson5057 5 жыл бұрын
@Glenn Howarth good to see you rationally listened to the explanation given.. the umpire clearly says that he had prior opportunity and disposed of the ball.
@mitchconnolly9195
@mitchconnolly9195 5 жыл бұрын
But he handballs the footy hahaha. Why should someone be pinned holding the ball if the legally dispose of it ???
@themaindunza3608
@themaindunza3608 5 жыл бұрын
love how they didnt talk about the darcy moore tackle, the tippa high in the forward 50 and the in the back on stringer coz they know they screwed up also pendles legit ducked into the legs of the essendon players.
@callumchisholm7680
@callumchisholm7680 5 жыл бұрын
If he didn't lower his head, he would have had serious head/neck injuries, he was protecting himself and the force he was hit made him fall back
@themaindunza3608
@themaindunza3608 5 жыл бұрын
@@callumchisholm7680 the umps said about pendles we need to protect the person with the ball and what about that tippa free if pendles got paid the free what about him its about consistency could of got cleaned up even the commentators said it was stiff
@spaniardjr7918
@spaniardjr7918 5 жыл бұрын
They didnt tlk about when essendon got a free in the 50 when they were both holding eachother too
@themaindunza3608
@themaindunza3608 5 жыл бұрын
@@spaniardjr7918 that was one of two bs frees but the rest Essendon should of got just changed the game instantly
@joshmorgan2295
@joshmorgan2295 4 жыл бұрын
you realise there is something called picking up a footy, of course pendles ducked, but 2 essendon players ran into him and made head contact
@SportsReplays
@SportsReplays 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the umpires are making up new rules.
@hamleyn
@hamleyn 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a Pies fan and how Daniher didn’t get a free kick for running down Crisp is beyond me. Umpiring was very poor all day but it was both ways. Just a shame it happened right at the death knell.
@danwillreview
@danwillreview Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video. It was explained pretty clearly
@taliamason7986
@taliamason7986 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely pathetic. Can't even admit the umpires screwed up big tlme in the 2nd biggest game of the year. Instead let's just defend what cannot be defended and not learn anything at all from it. Great job AFL. Brilliant governing of the game. Its times like this I wish Andrew Demetrio was still the CEO of the competition. At least stupid crap such as this never happened during his reign.
@jasonevans4291
@jasonevans4291 5 жыл бұрын
Talia Mason Like Gill saying Melbourne didn't tank!
@matthewarmfield2807
@matthewarmfield2807 5 жыл бұрын
Ok if thats the current interpretations. Can we see them applied every week in every game because at the moment they are not apllied this way
@locky_socky62
@locky_socky62 5 жыл бұрын
Many different umpires interpret them differently however here, the rules have been interpreted correctly.
@mattyp7157
@mattyp7157 5 жыл бұрын
What an absolute crock....
@zacharyfoster1908
@zacharyfoster1908 3 жыл бұрын
Crisp took em on that's gone
@mabiorcholappreciationpage
@mabiorcholappreciationpage 5 жыл бұрын
Hoskin Elliott did not handball that. He just threw it out
@jaisejacob4516
@jaisejacob4516 5 жыл бұрын
Sports car photography of Melbourne stop crying
@mabiorcholappreciationpage
@mabiorcholappreciationpage 5 жыл бұрын
@@jaisejacob4516 i'm not crying. I am a Richmond supporter and I can clearly see a throw. His fist missed the ball
@Emma-dx7qd
@Emma-dx7qd 5 жыл бұрын
Sports car photography of Melbourne are u bling he clearly handballed it do u where glasses because i think u need to get a pare
@WhiteLatte
@WhiteLatte 5 жыл бұрын
@@Emma-dx7qd Are you blind? I don't think you can spell let alone see the throw....
@callumchisholm7680
@callumchisholm7680 5 жыл бұрын
Hand still made contact with the ball, even if it was slight, still a legal disposal
@falcon5095
@falcon5095 5 жыл бұрын
That umpire is as bad as the umpires I get in year 12... pull ur head in
@KG-nt3nf
@KG-nt3nf 5 жыл бұрын
maybe you should just learn the rules?
@jasonevans4291
@jasonevans4291 5 жыл бұрын
Showdown and Chill Unless the rules have changed they were all wrong calls. You must be a Pies fan
@brucewillis542
@brucewillis542 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly the umpires were paid off for this game...no doubt at all.
@religz
@religz 5 жыл бұрын
Should of gone to spec savers
@lunch6360
@lunch6360 5 жыл бұрын
So, if A.M-T shrugged, forcing the tackle high, does that mean Selwood will no longer get free kicks when he does it? Severely doubt that... if you get taken to ground in a tackle when you’ve had prior opportunity, you’re gone. I hate both teams equally so there is no bias here..
@normcummins2719
@normcummins2719 5 жыл бұрын
As an ex umpire all those excuses were bullshit. Both were holding the ball. Ducked the head on Pendlebury and high on Macdonald- Tipungwuti.
@desiolle2874
@desiolle2874 5 жыл бұрын
There's two movements on the Pendlebury one....I'm alright with it on the day 'cos it's hard to see that in real time but in slo mo on a replay?....bullshit@@normcummins2719
@pattymc253
@pattymc253 5 жыл бұрын
WTF is this rabble
@marnuslabuchagne534
@marnuslabuchagne534 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm a Essendon supporter but these decisions cost us the game Edit: Umpires don't cost games in most cases but this is an exception And the tippa high contact has NO EXUSES that is plain GRADE A BULLSHIT
@joelanthony7227
@joelanthony7227 5 жыл бұрын
Absolute joke for him to say Hoskin-Elliott’s was a handball. Just admit it was the wrong call
@PD-gt7on
@PD-gt7on 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Cut the bullsh*t.
@danwillreview
@danwillreview Жыл бұрын
It was a handball Signed An Essendon fan
@Reexys
@Reexys Жыл бұрын
Actually that was the right call, if you watch the close up of whe you can see the ball is handballed
@bourkestreethooligan
@bourkestreethooligan 5 жыл бұрын
2 big issues I took away were; If you have prior opportunity and get tackled you MUST immediately dispose of the ball, not go to ground and hang onto the ball, fight the tackle and then dispose. The second issue is if you have been tackled and and try to get rid of the ball it must be disposed of correctly, an incorrect disposal i.e. a throw or drop, results in a free kick. So the AFL are now saying you can drop or 'throw' the ball in an ATTEMPT to dispose and it will NOT result in a free kick. As a Junior umpire this just makes trying to explain to abusive parents/on-lookers more irate through confusion less helpful, not to mention the juniors just starting out. Im also a Collingwood fan and they are just terrible decisions. the AFL is getting worse every year.
@wighto73
@wighto73 5 жыл бұрын
Well said champ. You are a great gentleman for taking time out of your life for the game in our community with little thanks and support. I never thought of what you said and I can imagine it makes your stressful unappreciated job so much harder. The AFL needs to stop this bs and look at the big picture. The pro umps sure they get loud boos but it would be a lot less hurtful and impersonal than what you have to deal with. You are not protected ,have no security and have to defend yourself. These pros get paid well and the minority who are extremely pòor who get defended or beyond criticism no doubt cause you a lot of heat. The AFL needs to fix it fast. I wonder do the umps have an association to sort this mess out? If not they need one badly and if so they must pressure the AFL immediately
@callumchisholm7680
@callumchisholm7680 5 жыл бұрын
What I hate most about this video is, the umps are trying to protect themselves so badly, next week we will look at calls made or calls not given and refer to this video and ask why it wasn't given. With the Stephenson one, if they don't have prior and they still attempt to handball/kick and don't make contact is that not dropping the ball or an incorrect disposal, the only way you wouldn't pay that is if the ball came out in the tackle. It's ridiculous, own up to your mistakes or make a hard print copy or the rules because it seems to change every bloody week!
@archiesinfield9333
@archiesinfield9333 2 жыл бұрын
With the Stephenson one, if u have no prior then u only have to make a genuine attempt to get rid of it u don’t necessarily have to get rid of it
@thelegendofm2692
@thelegendofm2692 5 жыл бұрын
1:51 Why wasn’t that a free kick ? Selwood get a free kick for that all the time.
@vRaspy
@vRaspy 4 жыл бұрын
duck
@jettwilliams8666
@jettwilliams8666 4 жыл бұрын
vRaspy no he was running he is short
@GreatWhite7
@GreatWhite7 5 жыл бұрын
I would bet my life Joel Selwood is still getting paid high tackles for doing what others are doing.
@themaster7552
@themaster7552 3 жыл бұрын
He gets loads of free kicks because he gets his head over the ball, jeez it amazes me how little people actually know about footy.
@jimmyvella1710
@jimmyvella1710 5 жыл бұрын
If There’s contact to the head it’s a free tippa gets his head smacked not paid
@manman7404
@manman7404 5 жыл бұрын
Wendy James Vella if the 1st time was bullshit enough, 2nd time surely these umpires are biased and the third time i knew the umpires had a bet
@jimmyvella1710
@jimmyvella1710 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy
@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy 5 жыл бұрын
With the last one, he literally threw it like what do u mean that was a kick yeah sure he kicked it but he clearly threw it before hand... and the one with McDonald and the high which should of been a high tackle just cause he blocked it... It’s still a high tackle it’s above the shoulders
@paulennis7598
@paulennis7598 5 жыл бұрын
wdym. Stephenson threw the ball onto his boot, isn't that what a kick is. You admitted that he kicked it. Also with the high tackle he clearly dropped his knees and threw his arm up so the arm slipped to his neck. The tackle was initially going to his chest if you look. Also what about the free kick that baguley got which gave essendon a goal, that was holding to langdon. If you go for essendon you're really one eyed.
@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy
@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah true but he literally threw it not like how you usually drop it and kick like litterly threw it
@toplad8277
@toplad8277 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy yeah so did Jack Higgins last year where he was about to run thru the points sohe threw the ball up and ran back and kicked it and it eas allowed? Soooo quit complaining
@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy
@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy 5 жыл бұрын
True just saying Collingwood have been given a lot of love this year
@toplad8277
@toplad8277 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGamingChannel-nc6qy 1 game? I don't see them being favoured in the others
@christian6214
@christian6214 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm a Collingwood supporter and Stevenson didn't get a hand to that so-called 'handball'
@kuda4239
@kuda4239 5 жыл бұрын
Christian Klasev glad to see everyone can agree that the umpiring was bullshit
@Brendanjbrown12
@Brendanjbrown12 5 жыл бұрын
The bullshit explanation was that he kicked it.
@kanecross
@kanecross 5 жыл бұрын
It’s like this guy is watching a completely different game! At least 3 of those were incorrect (non) decisions. The ump made a few bad calls in a close game, the AFL just needs to admit it, learn from it and move on. Side note: given how often the rules change and how often the AFL tweaks the interpretation of the rules it’s no surprise this kind thing happens!
@shashe23
@shashe23 5 жыл бұрын
Everything the umpire is explaining doesn't even match up!? Especially on the second one, the handball was made after the ball and player hit the ground... Holding the ball right!?
@keeganj8
@keeganj8 5 жыл бұрын
My dog could umpire better! 😂
@stuartfarrow2338
@stuartfarrow2338 5 жыл бұрын
Your dog must be pure bred, these dogs are mongrels.
@Jaydoggie1
@Jaydoggie1 5 жыл бұрын
Im sorry with the jack crisp one, the umpire says says "we cant penalise a player who disposed of the football". Thats garbage the rule states if he had prior opportunity the player must dispose of the ball IMMEDIATELY, in which he didnt dispose the ball IMMEDIATELY as there was enough time for him to be taken to ground in the tackle, so that should be HTB every day of the week.
@AussieSam
@AussieSam 5 жыл бұрын
Johnson paul I remember a couple of years ago when Tovey tackles Jake carl to the ground and it wasn’t paid holding the ball? You know why, cause he kicked it!
@danwillreview
@danwillreview 5 ай бұрын
You're allowed to go to ground. If he'd just let go of the ball illegally, then it would've been a free kick. The tackle wasn't effective enough to actually hinder his ability to dispose, hence the correct disposal and the play-on call. Make sense?
@meecrob1261
@meecrob1261 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a Essendon supporter and yes we were robbed,but at the end of it we need to move on,we have proven we can compete and clearly win against theses elite sides. I was upset like ever one but we need to remember it’s only round 6.
@meecrob1261
@meecrob1261 5 жыл бұрын
But honestly the umps need to pull there fingers out.
@Operative34
@Operative34 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they defended these decisions puts doubt in my mind on the integrity of the whole AFL. They're simply not correct calls. However, its one thing for an umpire to make a mistake, we're all human and it happens. You own up to it and you move on. To pretend that everything is fine here, when its clearly not, takes either extreme delusion or practiced doublethink. Potentially both. To Gaslight fans by saying these are correct, feels the exact same when the AFL says everyone wants a Night Grand Final and halftime show. No we don't. But the AFL makes its own reality it seems.
@jakecotchin8553
@jakecotchin8553 5 жыл бұрын
This is so bull
@mentosssa
@mentosssa 5 жыл бұрын
"lifts his arm and the the hand goes around the neck" okay. But the collingwood players other arm goes over the shoulder. Come on.
@oliverdestefanis982
@oliverdestefanis982 5 жыл бұрын
MentosnFrost just doesn’t tho
@damonclark3163
@damonclark3163 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of these are pure bullshit (collingwood supporter, a lot of the ones in our favour were rubbish) "we protect the player going for the ball", rubbish. Review a series of games then we'll talk
@flagdons8072
@flagdons8072 5 жыл бұрын
Joel Selwood still somehow still gets free kicks ?
@rubsmay7304
@rubsmay7304 5 жыл бұрын
Kane B tippa got high he didn’t shrug or duck into it they just can’t admit their mistake
@comedybird9875
@comedybird9875 5 жыл бұрын
Selwood doesn’t even duck lmao
@flagdons8072
@flagdons8072 5 жыл бұрын
@@comedybird9875 lifts is shoulder literally what they showed tippa doing
@TheKingCarlosa
@TheKingCarlosa 3 жыл бұрын
Tippa contributed to getting tackled high but Pendlebury didnt? Spare me....
@sub_spawn0963
@sub_spawn0963 5 жыл бұрын
Is this Joffa commentating on the Anzac Day calls?
@elliotrobbins95
@elliotrobbins95 5 жыл бұрын
If you have an opportunity to get rid of the ball and you are taken to ground from a tackle it should be a free every time
@rjrichme
@rjrichme 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to lawyer their way out of it. They know they screwed up, but they’ll never admit it
@theaflera3762
@theaflera3762 5 жыл бұрын
Says Tippungwutti Lifted his arm to make it High which is why it’s not a free Then Explain why the free that led up to The Shuey Goal after the siren in 2017 was paid
@KG-nt3nf
@KG-nt3nf 5 жыл бұрын
the AFL came out and said they got that decision wrong
@drkelly3827
@drkelly3827 5 жыл бұрын
This umpire is wrong
@marcodigiorgio1868
@marcodigiorgio1868 5 жыл бұрын
damn next time im getting tackled imma just throw the ball in the air and attempt to kick it or handball it and if i get penalised imma refer back to this video
@hickboey2466
@hickboey2466 4 жыл бұрын
With the explanations given by the umpire Essendon fans now can’t argue with the decisions they were all the correct call but Essendon is Essendon there is nothing you can do.
@HourzAu
@HourzAu 3 жыл бұрын
2 years on and just getting the win 2 days ago. This is still the biggest load of sht I’ve ever heard
@aidantremsal1242
@aidantremsal1242 4 жыл бұрын
So I’m guessing this guy is a Collingwood supporter
@jamiemacdougall5036
@jamiemacdougall5036 5 жыл бұрын
Eddie McGuires sons have very punchable faces
@BIGDAZR
@BIGDAZR 5 жыл бұрын
Stevie wonder is in charge
@youngzal8265
@youngzal8265 5 жыл бұрын
crisps call is a absolute joke that's embarrassing
@youngzal8265
@youngzal8265 5 жыл бұрын
crisps call is a absolute joke that's embarrassing
@tillylloyd
@tillylloyd 5 жыл бұрын
I know some of these decisions we’re bad but if they changed them after the game know one would’ve known if it made an impact on the score. Well it probably would’ve. It’s on the past and know one can change the scores. From a person who went to the game
@CAAguilera
@CAAguilera 5 жыл бұрын
No, but at least there'd be some accountability taken by the umpires. Essendon didn't lose only because of the umpiring, slow start and some inefficient kicking really hurt us.
@ceebs8832
@ceebs8832 5 жыл бұрын
even if these are the correct calls, the umpires are so inconsistent that the norm is different to what it should be
@tobythedevil1874
@tobythedevil1874 5 жыл бұрын
I hate Collingwood but all of these calls are correct
@LewisCostin
@LewisCostin Жыл бұрын
3:36 "no prior, he THROWS the ball to the boot" lol
@seanmcdonald3286
@seanmcdonald3286 5 жыл бұрын
LOL. Taken to ground and THEN handballs. No free kick... Says "Can't penalise a play for disposing the football", except he was already tackled to the ground! The fact they are trying to now defend the calls as correct is unbelievably absurd.
@chittlebrothers1676
@chittlebrothers1676 5 жыл бұрын
Love how hypocritical this is. When Stephenson has one arm free to make a decision and place the ball onto his foot and fails to do it. That is incorrect disposal. Saying that you only have to make an attempt at kicking or handball during a tackle that didn’t have prior is saying that throwing/dropping the ball is acceptable.
@archiesinfield9333
@archiesinfield9333 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the rule tho. I umpire myself and I even tho u may not like it, if a player has no prior, u only have to make a genuine attempt meaning that if u have a swing with ur foot but miss it’s play on not dropping the ball
@charlielodge6827
@charlielodge6827 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the umpires keep calling things to exact law and protocol when they really should be focusing on whether giving the free kick or not is in the true spirit of the laws and the game.
@thelegendofm2692
@thelegendofm2692 5 жыл бұрын
3:01 that’s the first time every I’ve heard that rule FYI I’m not a bombers supporter
@archiesinfield9333
@archiesinfield9333 2 жыл бұрын
It is true tho. I umpire myself and that’s what most people don’t understand. They think that no matter what, if they don’t dispose it’s holding the ball/incorrect disposal but the reality is that if they have no prior they only have to make a genuine attempt to dispose of it
@fonzie670
@fonzie670 5 жыл бұрын
How can u possibly justify the crisp one
@xavierpravednikov8012
@xavierpravednikov8012 5 жыл бұрын
Fonzie Y the only one you can justify is the high contact on the Collingwood player cause that’s the actual rule
@lilyvaughan228
@lilyvaughan228 5 жыл бұрын
2:20 that is definitely high. No two ways about it
@bradheadband8015
@bradheadband8015 5 жыл бұрын
nup,go to ground with prior opp,holding the ball,play on for pendles
@DV-zv4ox
@DV-zv4ox 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the changes this year have been good (not having to kick out from inside the goal square and new player limits from centre bounce in particular) but the umpire inconsistency over these first 6 rounds is costing teams the match.
@miniman5623
@miniman5623 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, got the handball off! How about we go back in time, to 2015! Rioli tackle someone, and the person he tackled got the handball off! You called HOLDING THE BALL! That was all bullcrap!
@jasonevans4291
@jasonevans4291 5 жыл бұрын
If Shaun Ryan thinks those calls were right he should quit AFL Football!
@lukakachocolate2055
@lukakachocolate2055 5 жыл бұрын
Whoever is talking must be a Collingwood fan
@lucblum5758
@lucblum5758 3 жыл бұрын
Is it me or are umpires just ruining our game.
@benparagalli8529
@benparagalli8529 5 жыл бұрын
Bs
@stavio12
@stavio12 Жыл бұрын
Stick with the 'old' holding the ball rule. If you get tackled, you HAVE TO get rid of the ball either by a kick or a proper handball. Get rid of the 'make a genuine attempt to get rid of the ball' because that just opens it up for different interpretations. What is a genuine attempt for one ump might not be for another.
@BoxiesAU
@BoxiesAU 5 жыл бұрын
The first one, I tend to agree with that is not holding the ball - the rest all are, and were called incorrectly IMO
@mavisthecat2270
@mavisthecat2270 5 жыл бұрын
The first one he does not get a hand on it, it gets flung out
@BoxiesAU
@BoxiesAU 5 жыл бұрын
@@mavisthecat2270 Looks like he does get a hand on it to me - But yeah maybe he doesn't - hard one
@sandyian7058
@sandyian7058 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree with the Scott Pendlebury one and the Stephenson one though
@matthewdefina3514
@matthewdefina3514 4 жыл бұрын
I am an Essendon supporter and a Field Umpire so I shall dissect all this for you: 1. Play-on, correct disposal, CORRECT decision 2. Prior opportunity, as he was tackled, the ball has hit/touched the ground, meaning you have forfeited your chance to dispose of the football.. INCORRECT Decision, Should have been paid holding the ball 3. High tackle, must protect the head with front-on contact when initiated from the ess player - NOT coll player, CORRECT decision 4. High tackle, INCORRECT DECISION, Mcdonald has tried to "shrub" the tackle and the tackle has slipped up, a great case of a ruckman's tackle 5. Looks like he has kicked the ball, if he hasn't, there is one arm free in the tackle and he has had 3 seconds to legally dispose of the ball, CORRECT decision based on Hosken kicking the ball.
@herbie0408
@herbie0408 5 жыл бұрын
I think Shaun Ryan would to well in politics
@taitrennie9099
@taitrennie9099 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a pies supporter and the umpires need to stop favouring us
@c.l344
@c.l344 5 жыл бұрын
Respect
@damo4869
@damo4869 4 жыл бұрын
Tait Rennie respect
@Jschultzy21
@Jschultzy21 5 жыл бұрын
Essendon should have one this game All Collingwoodwood supporters say a win is a win and they also say watch the video of the umpires explaining ANZAC day I’m not Essendon I’m Richmond but Essendon SHOULD HAVE WON SO BE QUIET COLLINGWOOD SUPPORTERS
@patrickleathem9599
@patrickleathem9599 5 жыл бұрын
The first one there is no handball
@tombrooks5166
@tombrooks5166 5 жыл бұрын
Afl / Umpires loves Collingwood , 2018 they where awarded 100+ free kicks more than any other club / facts , these explanations are ludicrous ...Interpretation of the rules is shocking these days ...
@DJ_Josh_AU
@DJ_Josh_AU 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, First one was holding the ball, he did not handball it and he had prior. Second, I admit, was a fair call play on. Third one, 100% not a high tackle, he ducked into it so I have no idea how they called that. Last one, first one (Stephenson) should have been holding the ball as he did not dispose of it correctly, you can clearly see he almost just threw it out. The umpires have got it all wrong. :/
@harrypower3914
@harrypower3914 5 жыл бұрын
Can we get the title renamed "'They're all wrong" sure he disposed of the ball but he disposed of the ball after he got clearly tackled for holding the ball which wasn't called? 2 times the play actually stopped which is a clear indicator that umpire has made an incorrect call. In conclusion CHARITY GAME
@Molegahe1234
@Molegahe1234 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgraceful by the umpires. Instead of making excuses, try to make the umpiring better. It has been rubbish this entire season. Hate to have a grand final ruined with umpiring like this. Admit you got it wrong and improve from this AFL. If this is the "correct" interpretation of these rules, then every other game for the last few years have been umpired incorrectly.
@sov839
@sov839 2 жыл бұрын
As a Tiges fan, this is some of the worst umpiring I've ever seen.
@derptasticfrys5890
@derptasticfrys5890 5 жыл бұрын
And boo Collingwood
@ben-uc1ud
@ben-uc1ud 4 жыл бұрын
Since everyone is saying they aren’t an Essendon supporter and this is bullshit, I am an Essendon supporter and this is bullshit
@troyundroy1
@troyundroy1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m all against the over-umpiring of games, but clearly the umps in this match were too scared to screw up a close game. It’s clear they decided to ‘put the whistle away’ in the last quarter... which really doesn’t work where one team is deserving free kicks time and time again. The game got out of control and they screwed it up. This game should be used for umpiring training as ‘what not to do’ in close matches.
@glennmcdonald4084
@glennmcdonald4084 5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me. You guys wanna share some of those sour grapes so I can make a nice celebratory wine?
@my_adventures67
@my_adventures67 4 жыл бұрын
Pies fan here, it’s not just this game where the umpires were terrible, they’ve been terrible for north of a decade. Some of these decisions on this video and some decisions that aren’t in this video that should’ve been umpired properly. A lack of accountability at the umpires department is embarrassing and a total overhaul of the umpires department is required.
@AwesomeEth9
@AwesomeEth9 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why everyone's whinging in the comments. 'why can't they just admit they made a mistake?' because, as you'll see if you read the laws of Australian Football and watch the video, they didn't
@PocketAU
@PocketAU 5 жыл бұрын
We should get the umps from the EDFL, They’ll provide a better match up with the opponents and don’t call out dumb decisions like these twigs.
@TheRammMan
@TheRammMan 2 жыл бұрын
Shaun Ryan. Says it all. One of the worst umps to ever officiate.
@SuperCalbo
@SuperCalbo 3 жыл бұрын
So they don’t pay tackles to a player that “contributes to the tackle going high”? Then why tf did they pay the one on Pendlebury?
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