"They're lawless": Current, former Navy SEALs allege criminality, drug use within ranks

This weekend marks 10 years since Osama bin Laden was killed in a daring raid by Navy SEALs, some of the most elite special operators in the U.S. military. But a CBS News investigation found it's been a rough road for some SEALs in the decade since. Catherine Herridge spoke to current and former SEALs who say while most have served with honor, there is criminality and drug use within the ranks.
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[@mastershake407]

Prior service here. I 100% believe this

[@mykoal5]

Propane

[@mikegriffin5440]

happened on my ship

[@AndrewHorezga]

@@mikegriffin5440 no. No it did not.

[@AndrewHorezga]

Prior service in what capacity?

[@mikegriffin5440]

@@AndrewHorezga 2 kilos from Cartegna, Colombia.....hashish from Amsterdam, stowaways from Dominican Republic,,stowaways were discovered after 5 days,plus I am sure there was more illicit activity on the ship

[@oliverkahn2224]

What did they think was gonna happen... They made them rockstars... That's rockstar behavior

[@Simon-d8n]

That’s it.

[@01crazycooter]

These guys are humble and professional seals. "A lion will never have to tell you it's a lion." Greater the soul, lesser the ego. Good job men. ✊

[@happykitten5695]

"i" wonder what really happened to the seals that recently "fell into the water"? 🙏🕊❤‍🔥

[@happykitten5695]

to Know Nothing is quite a mighty claim... "i" "personally" believe that "i" may very well Know Nothing at ALL 💛🦁👑

[@robertknight5429]

@@happykitten5695 what do you mean "I" ?

[@tonalharmony9266]

Character matters, not just brawn and bravado. Anyone who thinks that drug usage makes them elite, is a disgrace to the service.

[@unique1_4u]

I was on deployment with these guy as a civilian contractor for two years. I can attest to the arrogance and sense of entitlement from some of these guys. Although most are honorable there were a few less than honorable.

[@bbingtube]

No I'm going to say it's about a 70/30 split bro.

[@unique1_4u]

@@bbingtube sounds about right.

[@theengineer9910]

On deployment for 2 YEARS ?

[@Infinitebrandon]

Right. I'm just saying, navy and marine vets have always been the worst backstabbers in my civilian life. I usually don't have to worry about soldiers and airmen vets

[@unique1_4u]

@@theengineer9910 yeah, is tht difficult for you to wrap your mind around? I did state I was a civilian contractor. Been doing this work since 2008. Been deployed in many countries, in fact I'm deployed now.

[@mikegriffin5440]

Drugs were smuggled on my ship while I was in the Navy. Its very easy, at least it was 30+ yrs ago

[@lenoreswan7210]

I've heard that too from my relatives. who served during the Vietnam War era. Also, the series China Beach had multiple episodes where servicemen got caught up in the heroin dens or developed an underground market where they shipped to the US in furniture and other home goods.

[@mikegriffin5440]

@@lenoreswan7210 they would bring dogs onboard, but there was areas on the ship where dogs werent able to access, like the engine room

[@Keepskatin]

Babylon is falling, it's all being revealed.🙌🏾

[@chetgray5697]

@@lenoreswan7210 you mean "the CIA helps soldiers ship drugs home and blame it on them when they get caught"

[@lenoreswan7210]

@@chetgray5697 Oh, I don't doubt that AT ALL.. Anybody watching 'Snowfall?'

[@donnanoe6736]

This is totally disgusting!

[@noahidewarrior5838]

This should actually be considered a national emergency... special forces members who are let out without any discipline or monitoring can reap havoc in this country. Look how long it took Mexican Special Forces to take out some of their former members who turned to crime.

[@douglas_fir]

No if anything we need those guys wreaking some havoc here on the right people.

[@tombabcok3916]

It is a national emergency. Look how many far right ex military took part in the Jan 6 failed coup.

[@RockGlock10]

How silly. A National Emergency!

[@terintiaflavius3349]

@@tombabcok3916 Imagine believing 1/6 was a coup

[@paulgentile1024]

@@douglas_fir the navy seals are in trouble..lots of stuff going down..many living in deplorable conditions

[@bbingtube]

Finally!!!! I've been made a pariah for saying this 10 years ago!!!

[@christophermuran9487]

You got your honour intact.

[@lenoreswan7210]

Any time you threaten the status quo there will be resistance. Integrity can not be bought. You're not the only one who knows you did the right thing. Even in the military, someone there knows you did the right thing.

[@bbingtube]

@@lenoreswan7210 means alot.

[@bbingtube]

@@lenoreswan7210 thank you. 🙏

[@1truthbegettingtold275]

@@bbingtube What kind of drug use and how did this affect the people using it? An example of what would happen? I strongly believe our military members should be allowed to smoke weed as they did before prohibition in WW1, Panama canal, Pancho Villa expedition by John Pershings troops. Much safer to use than alcohol. Asking for sober soldiers is a bit much if you jade their minds with administrative BS that accomplishes nothing useful.

[@brashawnwilliams4868]

You train psycho killers then u want them to play nice ...cmon choose one

[@Chicano_pistolero]

Nah... just not do drugs while working extremely sensitive missions

[@h4rdi7g3]

@@Chicano_pistolero these guys have to deal with real dangerous stuff every day of their lives and are always one mistake away from death. Of course they do drugs.

[@toomyng9015]

Modern day Ninja and Samurai! What do you expect?

[@777repentnow]

@@Chicano_pistoleroproblem is, what if those drugs help you on the mission lol.

[@archangelspardathadon9188]

Who would want to join this mess

[@user-ln6hh3cu6y]

Sociopaths

[@loritouma5899]

Wow just difficult to watch and feel scared for them but everywhere is dirty!!! We have a problem we’ll anyone doing anything about it???? These guys were brave and courageous speaking out!

[@lenoreswan7210]

@@austingoomba She IS NOT a journalist. A good suggestion but be kind.

[@lenoreswan7210]

@Bamboo Training True enough. However, criticizing someone who is expressing a thought or opinion is unkind. People don't post because they are seeking grammar lessons. 🙄

[@Keepskatin]

Babylon is falling 🙌🏾

[@mwebb999]

I remember playing High School football when I was younger. Being on a high-profile team goes to some guys heads and they abuse others happily without remorse.

[@AndrewHorezga]

Is shooting people, including kids and women, on a daily basis something you do? A little blow to cope ain't so bad.

[@1truthbegettingtold275]

@@AndrewHorezga You mean the typical non-violent jobs most military members have? They should just do weed.

[@AndrewHorezga]

@@1truthbegettingtold275 ...and drink their wine

[@AndrewHorezga]

@@SuperTDSmith ...you don't know me...I don't even drink.

[@AndrewHorezga]

@@SuperTDSmith ...you also don't kick doors for a living....you're drug is soy and high fructose corn syrup and a dopamine fix from social media....but I don't expect you to understand that.

[@kevinm8865]

"With great power comes great responsibility" ... Sadly we continue to see DoD, its affiliates partners, the "justice system" and "law enforcers" able to live/operate above the law, WITHOUT real consequence. Stand up and speak out people. If you know someone or are someone entrusted with public safety/health or are involved with the "justice system", that acts unethically/illegally, check them or yourself and stop. Your action(s)/non-action(s) are hurting us all.

[@JohnHoffman65]

Just shameful to see from one of our military’s most elite forces.

[@tombabcok3916]

That's what you get when worship the military.

[@syasenns294]

On April 28, 1967, with the United States at war in Vietnam, Ali refused to be inducted into the armed forces, saying “I ain’t got no quarrel with those Vietcong.” On June 20, 1967, Ali was convicted of draft evasion, sentenced to five years in prison, fined $10,000 and banned from boxing for three years. He stayed out of prison as his case was appealed and returned to the ring on October 26, 1970, knocking out Jerry Quarry in Atlanta in the third round. On March 8, 1971, Ali fought Joe Frazier in the “Fight of the Century” and lost after 15 rounds, the first loss of his professional boxing career. On June 28 of that same year, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned his conviction for evading the draft.

[@taythegypsy]

Cocaine is that power drug and makes people feel like superheroes smh

[@jeff0247598]

The SeALS who report on immoral and illegal behavior are in fatal danger by doing so. To be sent into hot warzones on covert operation that can be "covered up" or have the narrative of the operations cleansed and manipulated, the guys who speak up against can very easily "die by the enemy's hand" while operating, when in truth, they were "fragged" by their own counterparts. This will never end in the SeALS or many other military settings. Warfighting is brutality and it crushes the soul. Warfighters watch their friends die, and are expected to wage war accoring to "rules" which builds up resentment. They get to a point to where they no longer fight for their country, they fight for the warrior to their left and right. Many start out good and stay that way, but unfortunately, some deteriorate because of the corrosive environment of war and poor copings skills (drugs, alcohol, sex, etc.) fall into darkness. I believe that darkness is where the inhumane and murderous acts are born.

[@bstorm4413]

So their command KNOWS they are doing drugs per testing. That is an automatic dishonorable discharge. Ergo Command is refusing to do THEIR DUTY, and MUST also be dishonorably discharged - regardless of rank.

[@1truthbegettingtold275]

Cannabis should not be a dischargeable offense. If the concern with cannabis is "lazy, lack of motivation, insubordination, free-thinking" PT is a great remedy. The reason soldiers do other drugs aside from cannabis is because cannabis stays in the system longer. Its not like cocaine or alcohol where the body pushes it out quickly, where cannabis lingers in cell receptors when THC is stored in lipids.

[@pashon4percushon]

Military has always had a problem with drug use and they discharge people straight out of the service who test positive. So i can't see the significance of or difference between finding the Seals doing it. Perhaps the meaning is they get away with it because there's no testing capabilities in real time field scenarios.

[@benjaminflash1108]

I sweat this country could've been the best country in the World in every category if they treat its citizens fair and respect their veterans!!?

[@littlemiller6]

The veterans receive countless benefits including free university and thousands of dollars a month, many who only work two days a month

[@marshalljulie3676]

@@littlemiller6 what about thousands of homeless vets and those that are affected by the burn pits

[@littlemiller6]

@@marshalljulie3676 could you tell me more about these burn pits? Also, I understand the homeless veterans issue for veterans who deal with severe PTSD and other physical or mental damage from their deployments. But for the ones who come back ok, and receive all those benefits, they are Ahead of the game compared to every other American. So it’s only fair that they should also be held accountable for their own financial future

[@tombabcok3916]

The unearned respect for veterans is what caused this. The've been committing endless war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan for the past 20 years. And we praise them for it.

[@MrJuaritos23]

You wouldn't know. Thanks to the fact that some of us raised our hand and shipped off to basic training then to a teather of operation so you didn't have to be drafted so for that you welcome​ sir@@littlemiller6

[@eltoroloco1936]

"Enforcing the standards".....that's what it really comes down too.

[@roastyamm8177]

Do you want to know who profits from the SEAL community? CBS does. They have a series called 'SEAL Team' Wednesdays at 9

[@robbiemurda2213]

Their was an episode where a sonny did coke and picked up hookers while on deployment

[@nathancampos679]

Even the most calm and collected man will go crazy being in the desert too long , it’s changes your mind

[@prodigy2385]

It’s a tough job and i think the government and people should give them more support to go back to normal life

[@victorrosales7565]

Starting to think becoming a seal is now overrated a ranger sounds good those guys don't speak at all they just do their job

[@jesseolson3142]

Not really. These days you can watch pretty much any special forces guys talk.

[@1truthbegettingtold275]

In my opinion, only thing military should allow is cannabis. But we know alcohol prohibition doesnt work. Tobacco and alcohol, the 2 being allowed cause many health and social issues. Bad runners, domestic assault, sexual assaults. I observe this drug rift to be between soldiers who drink only alcohol or the rare sober Joe Eagle scout to be against those who use drugs. I personally know classmates who joined up who still serve, still use. They say they use coke because weed stays in system too long.

[@bxi1547]

Do you really want people who are high working on billion dollar equipment?

[@bxi1547]

This reminds me of crooked cops who think they’re untouchable because they wear a badge.

[@waynemiami]

Well taken a life leave a toll on their minds and they want to be numb to it and the pressure in the military make a good guy turn bad .

[@AndrewHorezga]

Drugs are legal in most countries these guys operate in...and will soon be in the usa...besides poor treatment of vets after the gov is done with them leads to high drug use and homeless anyway

[@roym4457]

@@AndrewHorezga you do realize that drugs affect performance right?

[@AndrewHorezga]

@@roym4457 ...enhancing is an affect...just like you drink coffee....

[@MattMatt77]

😱😱😱 I can't believe it... Talk about all the rxpes that goes covered up but STILL be called "heros" back home for only 4 years of hard work. But then get a free pass for the rest of their life.

[@mommolette3607]

These are the same people who are lauded after discharge and use their service record to get jobs in law enforcement. No wonder we have so many terrible police!

[@willemjacobusbritz7930]

I would rely like to know what Joko thinks.

[@tylersamuel5021]

They need Jocko back in the teams

[@christophermuran9487]

Listen to Kay Griggs. The officer ranks are rife with drugs etc. The fish rots from the head. It's a tough station for the honourable

[@1truthbegettingtold275]

But if this means weed would be allowed thats a plus. If these coke headed officers allow weed its all good right? Weed should be only drug available to military. I would say i want it to replace alcohol but we know prohibition doesnt work.

[@dosteen1]

Which is why they’re on every news show talking about it.

[@Strngbru]

Wrong. This is not a new problem. Anyone who has worked with them over the decades knows they are the best at what they do, true warriors, and they're also the most out-of-control, undisciplined organization in the US military.

[@poka5658]

Bravo to these guys for speaking up. There’s so much truth to this.

[@SortaDopeIGuess]

Even Lemmings can run for days, swim for miles but standing up on your own makes the toughest men into cowards. Oh it’s true, it’s true.

[@brandongunter3738]

I guess we must take CBSs word they are who they say they are. 🙄

[@michaelmaxfield3744]

Does the Navy have much experience with Heroin trafficking?

[@norbitalborbital6882]

SEALs certainly do

[@Sonofagreatdad]

the seals could handle buds, war hard training . couldn't handle success

[@vitroz]

They should be all be in jail

[@B-G556]

Ask a Vietnam vet about the air force guys bringing the troops pounds of weed on the plane shipped to them 😂😂

[@ImArchangelMichael]

Pray for our seals

[@Neek1700]

I would never fight for America unless another country tries to invade

[@bay5005]

Maybe treat our Military and Law Enforcement like the heroes they are instead of portraying them as criminals. That would be a good start.

[@bay5005]

@Bamboo Training How about... *No* :)

[@magadestroyer4062]

They are criminals

[@landonmuscle7515]

Drug use is not a big deal. Is this 1987? Also lose the anymous sources cbs. Very fox news of you

[@nickherrera1041]

It is when your talking about snorting coke on deployment

[@CD-pk7xr]

Andy…. Is that you?

[@gordonallen9095]

The rot starts at the TOP. Command lost control a long time ago. They have went from becoming the SUPERSTARS of American special operations, to "persona non grata" in the American special operations community. SOCOM has lost faith in the unit. And I've heard they aren't collectively well regarded professionally by many Army or Air Force operators. Haven't heard anything about the Marines when it comes to the SEAL's.

[@MrLanzac]

I want jockos opinion on this

[@enlightenedwarrior7119]

Jocko looks like the one they are calling out

[@Simon-d8n]

@@enlightenedwarrior7119they are calling him out. Team 3. Were. Doin the worse crime

[@guygrdnr]

Love the computer VOICE

[@corpsman1980]

Yeah .. I don't trust a word of this.

[@swifftpurchase6490]

Why ?

[@corpsman1980]

@@swifftpurchase6490 respectfully the news (CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, etc) are no longer organizations whose goal is to truly inform. They are for profit entertainment networks. While I have no trouble believing that there is rot from the bottom to the top of the whole of the modern military, I see a lot of dirty fingerprints on this story. The timing of this story is also likely no accident. The media spin machine mentioned Chief Eddie Gallagher. He was wrongly accused of murdering a wounded enemy combatant by Seals that worked for him that had personality conflicts with him. I would encourage you or anyone else to hear his side of the story. Just search his name and the word podcast. If I had to guess I'd say that someone in the upper echelons of the US Navy is trying to divert attention away from NCIS and the horrendously unconstitutional and immoral methods they use to force confessions out of accused and not convicted active duty service members. For background I am a retired US Navy Corpsman, I am not a SEAL, and I dont personally know anyone involved. However I've watched the military pull dirty tricks to hide guilty parties before. With regard to drug use by a few seals, that information is not new. It's also not a surprise. There's always bad apples, and they seem to stick around a while unfortunately.

[@ericdeming7748]

@@corpsman1980 This is Eric Deming - one of the ones that spoke out in the interview. When you do an interview, you don’t get to choose what soundbites get used. I thought they did a great job with the time they used, but there is more to the story but unfortunately it's true.

[@BluCollarKutthroatEST83]

These are not seals

[@tsr4822]

This is the same problem that we have in society you are going to have a small percentage of people that do not do the right thing you will never get rid of this percentage you just want to keep it very low And weed out the bad ones as soon as possible

[@user-hc3tc9wh3r]

It is possible to weed out the small percent, and sometimes that small percent makes all the difference in the long and/or short term

[@xdaydreamerx]

Some people here say its about 30%

[@pjx0073]

I mean you can't really be surprised most navy seals have traumatic pasts a small majority of them can say they had a good upbringing, I remember watching a podcast of some navy seals and they said themselves if they never joined the military they most likely would've ended up in prison.

[@Patty.29]

BAD

[@joedirtjr5375]

Eddy Ray Routh proved that SEALs are touchable. When you walk my earth thinking your above "God." Prepare to meet thy maker

[@Mr.Deleterious]

You sound like you wanna do something to someone. Is that what your saying? That you wanna bring it with the SEAL community?

[@joedirtjr5375]

@@Mr.Deleterious Already have !

[@mikejohnson2098]

Sad

[@user-xi7nk8bc4k]

Need to look into Craig "Sawman" Sawyer

[@Greenpoloboy3]

The person in the thumbnail looks like a bad scary person

[@deejin25]

Gallagers own team tried multiple times to get him out of there.

[@solomonstello]

So who's in the wrong? Gallagher or his teammates?

[@spearfisherman308]

@@solomonstelloboth of them.

[@solomonstello]

​@@spearfisherman308How??

[@spearfisherman308]

@@solomonstello gallanger admitted that the killing was done by practicing medical techniques and his team helped him

[@solomonstello]

@@spearfisherman308 I see..

[@chrish5503]

Bunch of Blue Falcons, just trying to get out of their own bad OERs and NCOERs by ratting out others.

[@libirdinowski6270]

Why cant they be the guys back in the day that didn’t look to be entrepreneurs afterwards & talk….

[@tritondriver1]

DAMN

[@sophieperaaud471]

WHAT ELSE IS NEW WE SAW?? THOSE DISGRACEFUL NAVY SEAL AT THE INSURRECTION JAN 6TH 2021.

[@MattMatt77]

But when back in the U.S. they get called "heros". Along with all the perks of being in the military for only 4 years. Like over 200+ companies giving you a unbelievable discount and that includes housing in car insurance.

[@terintiaflavius3349]

Miss Sophie I appreciate your sentiment however calling 1/6 an insurrection is really over rating what happened. It was another riot in months of riots.

[@JudgeDredd_]

Gale is surprised hahahahahaha

[@patrickharrison3230]

UNIFIED COMBATANT COMMANDERS WERE KILLED SECRETLY ,ALL TEN MADE VIDEO CARTOON REPLICATED IMAGE

[@jayn9559]

Drugs don't seem as bad as concern, but the same attitude of from the top down

[@Jay-ut9ov]

Why is professionalism such a bad thing?

[@deathfire096]

This is a hit job by the press. The Navy and the SEALS have a chain of command and a internal affairs in the military for crimes. These 3 clowns that hide their faces accusing the whole Navy and the SEAL community of covering crimes is a lie. That's not how the military works. Noticed they never gave anything specific of places, dates and people of crimes. They speak in a general sense but nothing specific. You are taught of using the chain of command in the military and if the command is ignoring the crimes or covering it up, you have Naval Crime Unit that investigates the whole command. The military always had a problem with drugs since Vietnam. It reflects that is a society/country crisis than just a SEAL problem. When I went to Boot Camp in the regular Navy in 1990, out of 85 recruits, 16 got busted for the drug test and that was just basic training in the first week. In my military school a few for busted for DUI or some drug abuse. My good friend in the Navy was kicked out because he had a 2nd offense of alcohol within 4 years and this was back in 1993. My friends in the Army tell me the same thing. People get busted for drugs. If the U.S. government really wanted to do anything about it they would secure the borders and go after the drug cartels but they don't.

[@Fartrellcluggins69]

cbs is the only one with this story. if it was a big issue and legit it would be all over. lets hear what mr shipley has to say. i dont buy this at all!! anyone remember that movie navy seals? yeah me too! this is nothing new.

[@Keepskatin]

Babylon is falling

[@Mikemikemike131]

Rob O'Neill

[@moniquewrites9046]

I have an idea! Create another special ops program and don’t tell the public the name of it.

[@williampierce4513]

There's already several that exist.

[@solomonstello]

​@@williampierce4513what's their name? 😉

[@williampierce4513]

@@solomonstello Signature reduction, for one..

[@user-ny6sm9jp3n]

Qell SAID brother DD

[@DavidGalich77]

I thought you fight the bad guys. Introspection.

[@brilliantdiva5068]

This interview would have been more powerful if there had been a different...........,,,,,..

[@mykoal5]

?

[@jonathanpeterson1984]

They need more drug and alcohol awareness training and for top tear units there needs to be way more micro management and drug testing. When I was in the coast guard (no it doesn’t compare to the navy seals) but we got little to zero informed about handling down time and signs and dangers of alcohol abuse. When it does happen, they hide it to keep themselves from looking bad ( all good here folks). The behavior I saw underway in foreign ports was dangerous and embarrassing to look back on.

[@patrickharrison3230]

US NAVY SEALS TAKE CHARGE OF UNIT AND PREPARE TO FIGHT SWAT TEAM IN REAL COMBAT

[@thatguyy96]

The real life boys

[@texasrav6056]

Brent Tucker? Is that you?

[@jesusdiaz5292]

Change voice I thought the USA could fine anybody hmm

[@SaintsUnited144K]

When bad things go unchecked, it grows in time. The groups will begin to change. The middle ground will shrink and where would they go if they see what happens to those who speak out? Good is seen as evil and evil is seen as good. Welcome to the last days. Don't think things will get better, left alone people will become worse. See the news lately? Repent, God's Judgement Day Is Near. Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved. No matter how strong you think you are, you can not beat spiritual with physical strength, only Jesus Christ can and will fight it if you believe in Him through faith.

[@negrodamus521]

When frat boys become navy seals

[@jeffreyrichardson]

jody anne welch said caitlin doug ed debbie dead champion sweats read

[@matthutchings1988]

Boy Scouts and Pirates

[@xXxGordO241xXx]

Lawless for doing drugs?? Seriously 😑😑😑 - edit: misleading title

[@jeffreyrichardson]

mark gerards sea land vigliaturas zen sand fran charpentiers land

[@happykitten5695]

🙏🕊❤‍🔥

[@MickeyD2012]

Winners use drugs.

[@janelperez9726]

Ukraine 🇺🇦 need your Maximum strength 💪.

[@janelperez9726]

Hai Narciso te van a dar.

[@deathfire096]

No, you want our money.

[@jefferyjohnson6021]

😇👀🫂

[@Patty.29]

Narcist to

[@skippyjl1]

KZbin sucks

[@mikebryant8507]

And yet you’re here

[@briantmartin83]

THIS "STORY" IS CRAP

[@mopthermopther]

⚓️🌊

[@poopoo5850]

Divide and conquer 🤔

[@Your_Wife.s_Boyfriend]

If you dont like USA , just leave. Go to afganistan or iraq.

[@mikebryant8507]

Irrelevant

[@marshalljulie3676]

He literally reveals the truth about drug abuse in the ranks and you take this information as a threat and you want them to leave the country 😒 you are so small minded do you realise they can make messed up decisions and do stupid things under the influence. And it's not just about drugs it's about killing prisoners and surrendering enemies which are war crimes since ww1

[@angelicarosemarie9400]

When will President Joe Biden, "Challenge & Reverse" some of Trump's pardons?

[@jesusdiaz5292]

Wtf let them smike weed

[@solomonstello]

You're stupid.