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[@GeraldM_inNC]

As a committed Christian I can't sufficiently express my disgust for the blue pill church. The churches today are run by single mothers and the pastors do everything in their power to please them. Those women could have out of wedlock children by three different men but the pastors still treat them as innocent victims of men. You are never going to hear any criticism of women in a Christian church today, but tons of criticism of men. They put enormous pressure on the childless men to wife up the single mothers in the church, and some men have stopped attending because of this. You will NEVER hear a pastor quote any of the many things the book of Proverbs has to say about women. I tried to do a red pill intervention for a pastor whose family is falling apart, but his response to it was literally "who hurt you?" The guy is hopelessly blue pill, there's no reasoning with him. This is where the church is at today.

[@simplelifeinfo3913]

what state is your church located in?

[@NickKirby-k6s]

Organized religion is for Beta's. I'm not trying to be a dick it's just the truth

[@Greenyt1234]

and yet they say to go to the church to find a woman lol

[@NickKirby-k6s]

​@@simplelifeinfo3913​The conservative parts of the country are just 5-10 years behind the coasts, it dosn't matter what state he is in

[@BOG0690]

Remind these "Christians" of Isaiah 4:1. Hold steadfast in your position. For I will turn son against father, daughter against mother Your purpose in the church is over - time to go _And shepherd's we shall be_ _For thee my lord, for thee_ _Power hath descended from thy hand_ _So feet may swiftly carry out thy command_ _So we shall flow a river forth to thee_ _And teeming with souls shall it ever be_ _In Nomine Patris, Et Filii, Et Spiritus Sancti_ _Deus Vult_

[@izzykazoo7569]

They ALWAYS call you an incel, but they NEVER call you a liar.

[@gr-os4gd]

Truth. 🏆

[@ThatGuyNicho]

They use the i-word without even knowing what it means.

[@drewyetti]

Facts!

[@thebigpig2364]

Can't be involuntary if I chose that life for myself

[@ICEknightnine]

Okay but the intent is to accuse you of having biased/irrational opinions about women. No one wants a pedo's opinion about the age of consent because they have biased/irrational opinions about children. The problem is when 90% of men are classified as incels to be ignored by women, maybe the problem isn't with the so called "incels".

[@TacitusR]

Why should I get married, I didn't do anything wrong.

[@tonylester6820]

guilty. until proven innocent

[@daedalus6433]

@@tonylester6820Family court simulator

[@Jbos201179]

Because we need your money

[@CosmicLion777]

😂😂

[@bolotabr12]

Being married to a man is like prison sentence 😅

[@gbladewarrior6884]

My Dad's friend burned down divorce. After his wife left him, took the kids, house, BOTH cars and everything else. He waited for her to leave town then burned the house, cars and cancelled his life insurance and stayed inside the house as it burned. He left a letter explaining why he did what he did, he was a broken man with nothing left to loose.

[@mrghostly1118]

A tragedy that a man who lost everything the redpill tries to solve. And it's a harsh truth that there's no sympathy from the church goers or feminist or other men who are successful who see men lose everything they fought for. I saw it with my own eyes a man broken by divorce, it scarred me and will remind me why you need to rise above such things. And i'm only 19. Doesn't mean i don't want marriage, it means i'm cautious.

[@LaMach420]

"The man who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"

[@Kyosukedono]

That's brilliant. Because in the letter he is admitting to burning the house and cars, insurance won't pay for any of it

[@PNWPI-wy9is]

Tragic. Unnecessary, but understandable. Years ago, while going through my divorce, I was dating a woman. Long story short, I had a similar plan, I'd rather burn it all down than let her have it (I ended up with everything so no need to go Nuc). The woman I had been dating tracked my soon to be ex down online and contacted her to "warn" her of my plans, lol. This same woman couldn't understand why I dumped her, begged me to take her back, etc. I was close tp placing a NCO on her. So, men, the lesson is; 1. Don't share your plans with a woman - she'll sabotage you, 2. no matter how catty they behave to each other, the sorority will always take precedence over you, 3. If you're going to involve yourself with women, recognize you have to secure yourself, in advance with legal, insurance, security, cameras. I know it'll seem obnoxious, but, have a "safe house" that you can entertain rather than your real house.

[@FPS-tc9ns]

He killed himself in the house​@@Kyosukedono

[@anthonyroberts2184]

This discussion by the daily wire was extremely feminine. All they did was sit around complaining about men, getting upset that men are finding happiness without their approval. That's what women do.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Well, I mean that wasn't ALL they did... Knowles also called Jesus gay... if not having kids and not marrying women is gay, and Jesus was single, no kids and led countless men to a monastic lifestyle, what was Jesus? Good job, Knowles...

[@truthfromtheword]

You couldn't tell if this was The View or Daily Wire.

[@ltb1345]

@@DiogenesDworkinson True, typical hypocrisy from the ultra-religious.

[@CosmicLion777]

😂😂😂

[@nicholaskibler2556]

Fuck these guys if they lose half their wealth they are still millionaires, if i lose half my wealth I'm homeless.

[@shortbusbully]

This is the one. Even if shit goes awry for them, they have no risk. For us, normal folks divorce is a catastrophe. It takes decades to recover, if ever.

[@augustodelerme7233]

Bingo!!!

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Yeah, but if you don't lose half your wealth, those guys are homeless. The need you to marry and grind to hold them up. They don't work. They talk. Not a single callous on their hands. Not one.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

And they don't care cuz both sides love the confusion and don't mind when we die.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

They're also in a position to turn their situations into monetized content if/when the time comes.

[@tizodd6]

So according to them, expecting women to do better and/or have accountability is "lashing out at women"🙄

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

I mean, basically they just don't care. They want men back at work providing women money to spend and paying to raise future generations of workers regardless if those are even their children or not. They'll say anything to get it, because they aren't arguing in good faith, but rather are pushing an agenda.

[@redtiger7268]

I one time told a girl "I do not get into relationships with females that exchange their sexuality for money" O my god the vitriol that woman spewed at me was hilarious. All I said was sexuality, I never said f-ed for money but this woman demanded I had no right t judge a woman or even be allowed to have a say in who I associate with.

[@tizodd6]

@@redtiger7268 That's one of the biggest problems. We're not allowed to point out any of their wrongdoings, lest we're accused of hating them. It's like the world expects everyone to believe women are infallible. The only group that is allowed to call out women, are other women.

[@cosmictreason2242]

@@tizodd6 they realize that if you can speak against them, you can change the laws and restrict their freedom to be immoral

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

​@@tizodd6And they won't generally lol.

[@DrewLevine]

i find it completely LAUGHABLE when these anti-red pill dudes ask "are you the kind of man that women would want?" I am at the point where, with the prevailing crappy tastes and wants a lot of people have, I DO NOT CARE TO BE WHAT THEY WANT. Hell, half the time THEY don't even know what they want. FOH......

[@thedisgruntledgrunt2239]

Couldn't agree more I'm done giving a shit about what women want. In today's world women want way too much while they really offer not much in return.

[@tracywilliams7929]

👏 Congrats! You have self respect.

[@038Dude]

Same here, I liked having relationships....once upon a time. Nowadays I'm just perpetually pissed off the moment I leave the house and have to contend with this universal degeneracy. And of course, this is my fault for being, "negative", I'm so sick of this so called society.

[@MrGchiasson]

What they want..changes every month...depending on what some fem/cultist says on social media.

[@BillyBob-bd1hj]

Once again I ask, who exactly are men supposed to marry? Where are all these marriageable women out there looking for a good man? The whole conversation is BS

[@Marcara081]

That's why these plantation owners push the church i.e. the house of REEformed Sloots.

[@NervousNoodles]

It is. Their rhetoric is that the women are out there, we just aren’t looking hard enough. Even if you find that rare gem, who’s to say they won’t change and completely chop you in half a few years into your marriage? It’s the same talks I’ve been having with my conservative parents. Unfortunately for them to see how crazy the dating market is, it took my sister turning ultra woke, tossing her husband aside in order to become the single independent woman who don’t need no man.

[@Greenyt1234]

Thats the rub. I ask for simple math. I said by my math about 80% of women are not worth marriage. That means 20% are, and by extension only 20% of men can "find a good one" what are you expecting the other 80% to do? By the logic of what they say men should do what they are doing now. Staying single if they can't find a good woman to marry. I was talking with a guy and I said "if we realistically followed the advice of "find a good one to marry" even less men would be getting married than now, because they wouldn't accidentially be getting married to the bad ones due to rose colored glasses. These guys just refuse to admit that there are not that many good women out there now.

[@stmartinhk]

You don't like tattooed mvdsahrks?

[@Greenyt1234]

@@NervousNoodles Major issue as well is it shows a low IQ take. Supposedly these guys are smart, but can't look at stuff on a macro level. Can 20% of guys accomplish this by doing what they said? 100%. But the overwhelming majority will not. So for the majority it would be marry a 304 or stay single. Their own words "marry a good woman" So ironically if men actually listened to that advice of "marry a good woman" the marriage rate would actually drop even further.

[@evanragland4930]

Never seen a panel full of people so confident about a topic they have no clue about.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Hubris, plain and simple... It was funny watching knowles call Jesus gay, though... If not having kids and not marrying women is gay, and Jesus was single, no kids and led countless men to a monastic lifestyle, what was Jesus? Good job, knowles... Really thought that one through, didn't he?

[@cosmictreason2242]

@@DiogenesDworkinson in fairness to him, he said relationships with women that don't produce children is gay. But yea Roman Catholicism is very gay

[@gr-os4gd]

Often wrong but never in doubt. 🤣

[@m4rvinmartian]

The ENTIRE group is low T.

[@marcosolano6612]

And the sad thing about this BS panel is that the Daily Wire also has Jordan Peterson and obviously wasn't invited, it isn't a coincidence he isn't on this panel when he knows more than any idiot on that table about these topics, they know he would single handedly question their arguments and he isn't even a red pill guy perse, he just objectively analyzes society and male/female relationship dynamics.

[@SilentNight115]

Women can demand 6 figures, 6ft, 6inches, etc and no fuss is made. Men who want no single moms, no debt, decent bodyweight, and no drama from their gf/partner is shamed for having a standard.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

well, to be fair, find a woman who is not a single mom, at least top 10 body count, no debt, a decent weight and not being a Drama Queen is a lot rarer than finding a 6 figure, 6 ft tall, 6 pack dude. In fact, find a woman with at least 2 of those prerequisites is extremely hard xD

[@chriscampbell9191]

Here's another one. To have sex with your wife many (mostly religious, but also regular feminist) 'experts' will tell you that you have to do all this shit ahead of time, as if you're earning it -- much of it that costs money, do tons of shit around the house and on top of that pay her extra attention, etc. But if a guy just wants his wife to wear a sexy bit of lingerie that takes 15 seconds to put on, that's "unfair", "materialistic", or "objectification of women" or some such. The hypocrisy is boundless.

[@EffWriteOff.]

You can only be shamed if you value that person's opinion. Rest assured it won't affect me in the slightest, especially not coming from out of touch people like these and desperate,bottom of the barrel delusional women.

[@wvanyar1801]

@@elduquecaradura1468 , the women today don't want to put in the work, they want to jump to the end of the story. I have the required 6s, but the 6 figure salary didn't come until I was in my 40s. My wife married me and stuck with me through all those years when we had $20 between paychecks. Now she gets to enjoy the fruits of her labors and mine. She put in the work and time with me to get where we are today. Today's women want to jump to where I am today, 6 figure salary, home, cars, and other things. But they want it now, not in 20 years. Well those guys that have it now have their pick of women.

[@wvanyar1801]

@@chriscampbell9191 , my wife is willing to put on the sexy lingerie but just doesn't see the point. It's just going to end up on the bedroom floor in 2 minutes or less. As for getting my wife in the mood that differs from day to day but just helping her or caring and being loving to her is enough. No spending tons of money, fancy trips, expensive gifts, just being with her and paying attention to her. My wife is rare and not a modern woman. But she also married me when I had nothing and expected nothing in return other than spending our days together. She had no expectations, no reshaping me into what she wanted, no hidden goals, just a partner to share life with.

[@ClassicJukeboxBand]

If Tom Brady's wife can leave him, any wife can leave anybody...

[@regencyrow1867]

All males need to realise there is no such thing as true love. She's not your woman, it's just your turn.

[@SchrödingersMath]

👍....truth....and Brad Pitt....and Emmitt Smith...and Ben Afleck.....anndd.........

[@elliotthovanetz1945]

The fact she divorced him for the very same reason she married him, for him wanting to be a top athlete. She's already admitted she's getting well acquainted with her wine 🍷

[@jonathangrayson9626]

​@@SchrödingersMath Johnny Depp

[@oakinwol]

This is what someone says when they think money and fame makes a relationship, which is just demonstrates how little most people understand about relationships

[@HateDietPepsi]

Why do these men care if men opt out and go there own way? How does men avoiding crazy-town affect them?

[@HelloKittySGTC]

Because we don't believe being traditionalist, that is the lie we've already been taught and now we are seeking the negative sides of it. Yes it worked for them and in past generations, but men are different, plus it's not as black and white as relationships used to be.

[@neozhao2376]

Easy. They need us to work and die for their society so that they and their children can survive and prosper. Men without family are harder to control and generally not as productive, primarily because we don't need to be.

[@stmartinhk]

These types of guys? Their god is GDP. And ofc, the tiny hat people.

[@jefferytokarsky1930]

It does affect society at large, but they’re pointing the finger at the wrong sex.

[@derfalschejunge]

They want us to sacrifice for the greater good. But they fail at telling us why we would want to sacrifice if there won't be a return of investment for us. It would be solely to for the sake of others who often are the ones abandoning, betraying, and ruining us.

[@idonomaeatomoku9322]

I believe in marriage, when its traditional, when government is not involved, when one party cant up and leave when they feel bored for two minutes while getting paid for it. "What God has yoked together, let no man pull apart."

[@stmartinhk]

Bring back fault in divorce. No cash and prizes for whores or philanderers. There has to be criminal and civil risk for people who break or undermine the marriage contract. If someone influences a husband or wife to break the marriage contract then there has to be a criminal record, the potential for prison time, and there has to be financial damages that cannot be avoided by declaring bankruptcy. Financially and in life outcomes, there is no more serious contract that a man can enter into. The law must protect marriage and family life.

[@Nick-zp8wk]

@@stmartinhk Precisely. What use is a contract when one side can unilaterally pull out at any time with zero negative consequences and only potential benefits for themselves?

[@chriscampbell9191]

@@Nick-zp8wk It's not a contract, if one looks at the definition of what a contract is. That's one of the problems. The irrelevance of marriage in modern day society being another one of them. And, oh yeah, the laws in every State.

[@Outlier999]

@@stmartinhkYou can’t criminalize such things. It invites government intervention.

[@PyromancerRift]

Women don't need the government to turn marriages into hell holes.

[@loganblackwood2922]

Steven Crowder is going in on men, "Are you the man women will want to choose to rely on?" By your own view, you weren't. You need to work on yourself. What's that? You're wealthy, famous, Conservative, masculine, over six foot and have your life put together and you're not *good enough.* Well I'll be. Just work on yourself, Crowder.

[@able34bravo37]

I stopped listening to him years ago. Trump was still president, in fact. Something about him just seemed disingenuous and untrustworthy. Now I know. He seemed disingenuous because he IS disingenuous.

[@Africanhorror]

emotional damage

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

He should just get a haircut. Talk to women. Go for a walk. Approach ladies at the grocery store. 😅

[@sixtyinsix]

Yeah Crowder, work on yourself. Get taller.

[@MrOnepiece14]

Yeah Crowder, go outside. Talk, don't. Who hurt you? You shouldn't be so bitter. Your mother is a woman too, don't complain. Be better, be more deserving of a better woman.

[@katajiro8178]

The only winning move is not to play. And there is no way shaming tactics will make me play the rigged game.

[@eatshityoutube3271]

Exactly thats where they lose me. You cant shame me into playing a rigged game

[@erroneous6947]

Holding women accountable is wrong apparently. Lol. We as a society deserve to fail.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

@soldatintelectual6544 before... when? Feminism started to have a voice in 1890'sm even I would dare a little bit before, but people refer 1950's as if it was lots better than now...

[@meshugganator08]

I agree- if this society cannot be honest and keep their word then why do they have the right to tell us men to go die in a war for them?

[@magicsinglez]

‘Holding women accountable’ lol.

[@Tetelestai-cw8qy]

Holding cats accountable is easier now.

[@dopaminedukes2292]

Maybe men should see there own faults as well as women but of course assholes like you think all men are fine and than wonder why nothing is helping

[@aaroncostello8812]

I am a conservative and I generally respect these guys for their political takes. However, I am also sick of hearing conservative commentators saying things along the lines of, "God wants you to go get married and have babies. It is easy to find a good woman at church." These guys have no idea that the biggest 304s on the planet are sitting next to them in church on Sunday.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

yep, I noticed that the woman who look for God are two kind: the ones who look for him since they are kids, or the ones who look for him when they don't get any more men in the nearby club xD

[@Cigarsnjeeps]

Biggest problem is that probably more than half of the people in any church only think they are Christian’s. The Bible says narrow is the way and few find it. Jesus said MANY on that day will say Lord, Lord and he said he will tell them depart from me I never knew you. I don’t believe the divorce rate of actual true believers is what the statistics say it is. So few are actually believers. They think they are but when the rubber meets the road they act as unbelievers because in reality they are.

[@terry9238]

What makes you think you-and/or your potential wife-won’t be able to fulfill your vows? MOST people do! It just isn’t true that most people cheat, or that anything like 50% of marriages end in divorce.

[@aaroncostello8812]

@@terry9238 Actually, 50% of NEW first marriages do end in divorce and the rate goes way up with second, third or fourth marriages. If you got married in 1987 you are pretty safe, but that is not the topic.

[@chriscampbell9191]

@@terry9238 As Aaroncostello8812 said, the divorce statistics don't agree with you, at least in this case. Yes, there are some Christian and Catholic marriage apologists who claim that the divorce statistics are nowhere near 50% (I just heard a supposed expert claim this on a Catholic radio station a week ago). But they are in error. And if you're a man, you face the statistic that 70% of the divorces are filed by the wife. As for cheating, the actual stats vary, but they're not encouraging. In the late 1940s there was a blood test survey done at a major hospital in (probably) the eastern US where with 12% of the babies born to married couples, the "father" was not really the father. Other studies done more recently in the US and UK show that the percentage of cuckolded, married fathers can vary between 5% and 30%. Which indicates a whole lot of cheatin' goin' on. (You can read about these stats in the chapter on Adultery in Jared Diamond's book The Third Chimpanzee). The point being that a guy really has to be careful in his choices.

[@Maddog3060]

It's hilarious. They say "oh yeah, Feminism is at fault" and such, and then start blaming men... which is what feminists do.

[@jelle6325]

Right. "Red pill is feminism" pure projection from conservatives.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Yeah, and also it's not feminism and it's not government. They may have opened doors, but women are the ones who chose to cross them. Oh, and If not having kids and not marrying women is gay, and Jesus was single, no kids and led countless men to a monastic lifestyle, what was Jesus? I think knowles just called Jesus a...

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

Because they then realize what their actual motives are.

[@xys007]

accountability = kryptonite

[@pokeman5000]

Because if they even ATTEMPT to address it in any critical way besides "Yeah, it's part of the overall problem." They will be vivisected. I don't agree with a lot of Jordan Peterson's crap but the second he gave even a little critical push back with "The three lies we tell femaIes" he was assailed on all sides immediately. He had some really basic takes and it was like kicking a hornets nest. The reason he did any of it is because he was kinda forced into accepting some controversial viewpoints once his daughter pulled the ripcord on her marriage. They're radicaIized pure and simple. To them skeptics are treated like blasphemers and indifference becomes equal to hate.

[@friendlyfire7861]

As a MAGA type person who every Leftist would think is the devil, my experience with Daily Wire personalities is that I started out biased in their favor but grew to dislike them over time. Candace is probably the last to go down, but with her it'll be complete. The reason is that they are not intellectually consistent or honest, and Joker points out examples of this well.

[@nationalsocialism3504]

Being MAGA is bad enough but liking Candace Owen's is the absolute worst... she's so bad and transparent at grifting that she got kicked out of the "Left" for building a boxing website targeted towards children (her real crime was really just being such an extreme progressive that she was a little over a year of the switch to their pro-doxxing stance.)

[@JohnD-zh9st]

They are grifters, 90% of people on the "right" are just controlled opposition to get you to digest the societal rot slower and easier.

[@mambi74]

There's a reason why they're never cancelled/banned - they're safe "opposition".

[@JeffThorton]

​@@mambi74BINGO 100% they are part of the system

[@webymcduck]

The DW men complaining and Candace fawned over Tate in her interview. Younger women are easily manipulated. I have 5 boys. All taught to respect everyone. Check ID before dating. Cant trust some girls.

[@latt.qcd9221]

Not *_one_* of these men will be there to defend you when your wife decides to divorce you. Anyone telling you to sacrifice yourself on the altar of their ideology is evil.

[@vegetashairline3060]

Yup, and men will say dumb crap like: "just get a prenup broo" but the reality is that all a woman has to say is that you forced her to sign it under duress, and most of the time a judge will just wipe his/her whole entire ass with that prenup.

[@cympimpin20]

They, and men in your life who think like them, will be the very first to believe the woman accusing you of abuse, neglect, etc and tell you that you must have been the reason why the marriage failed.

[@vegetashairline3060]

@@cympimpin20 happens all of the time too. Heck, believe it or not just two weeks ago my longtime girlfriends uncle got arrested because his ex wife claimed that he touched her niece. She gave a time frame and everything, said it happened over the prior weekend of his arrest date. Which was interesting because he had been out with me and my GFS dad a whole state over in an cramped RV on a fishing retreat. Didn't stop him from being arrested in front of the whole neighborhood, booked, and charged with child molestation, then he up and lost his job, all in a two day period. As of right now his wife hasnt left him, she seems adamant that he didn't do it, of course I wouldn't leave it out of the realm of possibilities that she won't divorce him over it now while the stove is hot. His ex wife has no reason to lie other than for revenge over moving on within a year after their divorce, so imagine how easy it must be for a woman to lie like that when it DOES benefit them in a divorce.

[@nightelfuser]

It's actually worse. They will blame YOU, and take the wife's side, even if she's the one that filed for divorce.

[@S1000xrhp]

All of these men are plantation owners, they're complaining because their farms are in danger of collapse and they want their slaves back to fix it. Too late, the slaves can look after their own patch of land quite nicely.

[@holtblvd]

Joker is one of the best advocates for men out there because he sees issues from every angle and from every generation. He stands up for the man who was divorce graped and he also speaks to the forever alone man who has been left behind by the harsh realities of modern dating. Yes, he encourages us all to continually self-improve but he doesn't gaslight us with nonsense. He isn't a 6'3" multi-millionaire former pro athlete telling the average man to just be alpha. He isn't the Fresh and Fit type encouraging good men to fundamentally change their personalities to become ultra-materialistic, self-centered, douchebags. He isn't an out of touch Boomer like Jordan Peterson telling us to drop our most basic and reasonable standards and expectations, "man up", and get married. Thanks for what you do, Joker.

[@arslongavitabrevis5136]

Excellent words! Jordan Peterson is a fake and a bloody wimp who burst into tears every second day. 😁😁

[@Defender2516]

Everytime I listen to Joker I have the same opinion about him.. "This man is reasonable about the situation". He's the most common sense guy out there I know.

[@thebigpig2364]

He also doesn't sell a course for self-improvement. Nor does he tell people they're worthless if they don't make bank.

[@areuarealman7269]

I had a friend like joker overweight but could pull stuff outta my high school so red pill logic out the window I hope he still does that honestly it made my day the girls always don't I know you yes you talked about me but nice seeing you as well madam...

[@toastle8005]

Yeah, he’s brilliant. Each take on the situation, like another commenter said, is just reasonable, calm and well thought-out.

[@elliotthovanetz1945]

When I hear these Daily Wire guys speak, I hear their wives talking. It's appeasement.

[@twischta]

Probably because they are afraid to get divorced. They just do what they preach: Be the men their wives want them to be.

[@dblezi]

Yup. Almost all conservatives are gelded and f - ists. These guys are just toeing the line for the game they are a part of. Which is the post f - ist society. Self respecting men should never listen to gelded and effeminate men.

[@nationalsocialism3504]

Jews

[@mr.yuk4858]

I call that "bitchthink". Most (if not all) married or guys in relationships suffer from this phenomenon.

[@jefferytokarsky1930]

When I hear these DW guys speak, I realize they just don’t listen.

[@man-observing-world]

“It’s not these girls fault”. No, everyone is responsible for their own mistakes, including only fans girls.

[@Marcara081]

Ask them what is worse: a man to beat a woman once or a woman to ruin her life doing p[orn]. They will claim the latter, reluctantly, because they care about a woman's well-being and thus her entire life is more valuable. But then if you suggest that it is therefore moral if, with no other recourse, you should beat a woman to prevent her from doing po[rn], they will invariably tell you it is evil. Ultimately, anything which requires men to take authority over women i.e. ownership, they see as immoral. They are feminists in all but name. They tell women to obey god because god because they are loathed to tell women to obey them.

[@joyfultrails]

I would have been talking just like them…until my sweet little Christian wife decided to divorce me after 2 kids and 21 years together. And after the house was paid for. Spoiler alert: she got the house and alimony because she had been a SAHM.

[@spiff1]

oof

[@erroneous6947]

They’ll have a Steven crowder moment eventually.

[@Mr._Anderpson]

Similar situation. 21 years. She wasn't a SAHM & still walked away with nearly everything, kids, house, car. She even took my bass boat. I spoke up & said, "Your honor, she has never held a fishing license in her life. What sense does this make?" The judge, a woman, said, "It doesn't have to make sense."

[@abecochran4251]

​@@Mr._Anderpson this judge spoke true, only she was referring to our body of laws in general, not just your particular situation.

[@isiahwashington2999]

In the same boat brother. I feel for you. It is hard to have faith in God when all you believed and sacrificed for is destroyed. But for me the only way I could survive and at least my kids know I dedicated my life to them and my wife left them too.

[@razorkid1525]

The problem with these men is that they believe "marriage" and "divorce" will be different for them. Just give them some time and watch 😂

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

No... They know the score. They know it will be bad for us... but that's a sacrifice they are willing to make in order to protect their own interests. We quit working, they quit eating.

[@nhitc6832]

Steven Chow got a taste of divorce. I haven't seen him talking about dating and marriage ever since😂

[@phoenixrising4995]

No they are multimillionaires that if the wrong one turn into a millionaire after the court runs through them. If that were to happen to me then I would be homeless in perpetuity

[@TheSatisfiedPig]

​@@nhitc6832 Crowder never should have been giving life advice in the first place. Dude's personal life is a wreck and probably always has been.

[@SoloRenegade]

these guys are all also older. they never dated in what we're dealing with now. they are out of touch with reality.

[@cushingpushing]

The religious conservatives and liberal feminists both dislike men who think for themselves.

[@StabbinJoeScarborough]

Spot on !

[@tabaflip]

Yup! Just Why I don't do groups!

[@GeorgeWKush-tl5do]

Bingo

[@trog.lodyte]

They want us to sign up and get in a landing craft about to land on a beach somwhere wherre the survival rate will be about 30%, for the greater good of coiurse. NOPE.

[@toughluv873]

Thats because they both want to monopolize men’s resources and attention. Men give the most and receive the least (ie appreciation, love, empathy etc).

[@ginzingtonschnizer2330]

The crowder situation is crazy when you look into it. She was disrespectful to Steven on the phone from a part of the house with no cameras while Steven was away from the home. When he was coming back she waited outside under a camera so that conversation would be recorded. Also it sounds like she had a shift in personality after giving birth to the children.

[@JJ-vp3bd]

Off birth control

[@chrislutz416]

@@JJ-vp3bd Hormonal birth control is a disaster for women. Nothing good can come from putting your hormones in a constantly imbalanced state.

[@the-based-jew6872]

Well women do have emotional changes at the time of birth. This is biological. Crowder also acts like a man child, that doesn't help. He needs to Be a man. Not overly emotional like mamma.

[@WomenAreRottingHoles]

no shift that's how she was from day one just hid it

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

Daily wire doesnt seem to realize they took a page out of the feminist playbook: call anyone who is against you closeted.

[@neozhao2376]

But of course. From their perspective, their word is that of God, so you must obviously be stupid or closeted if you disagree. I wonder what their God says about such arrogance, something about false prophets?

[@respectdawildo_danjones508]

Exactly 👍

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

Correction: Call anybody without a wife gay.

[@vegetashairline3060]

And they called us incel's too just like the feminists. They fail to realize that, yeah, there are many here who have never been able to get laid, but there also plenty like myself who have gotten railed in relationships, (but still had PLENTY of sex), and watched as the same happened to the men around us, who were unfortunately married at the same time. I was lucky, I never got married though i was once very close. Mens channels like this kept me feeling sane when I was low, and moving to a better tomorrow.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Where did you think the feminists learned it?

[@solinvictus39]

I'll start being a traditional man for women when women become traditional again.

[@yme3267]

I'm tradional for ME, bc it is right morally. It is how things SHOULD be.... BUT.... I treat people how they want to be treated. Which is sad.... bc Christ asks me to treat others how I want to be treated. It's the reality of not taking abuse and allowing people to use you. There's a balance

[@james3744]

I'm so over Shapiro and his grifter form of conservatism. He does not care about America or the West, his care is only for Israel and his 'people'.

[@DaMaster012]

Shekelpiro isn't a conservative, he's a neocon, which literally means "new scam."

[@07wrxtr1]

Bingo!

[@johnteixeira6405]

I was about to reply bingo but there are already two comments saying exactly that lol

[@Vintagenegro]

Ding,ding tell him what he's won Bob!!!!!!

[@Okunniger_Volker]

I don't care that he's pro Israel, but the issue is he's not in Israel and he's pro Israel at Americans expense, that's where the problem comes in but that seems to be the status quo on being pro Israel, you have to be anti-everyone else.

[@georgesontag2192]

When my wife filed for divorce and they gave her the house, land, savings, tax return, alimony, dog, children...... I got my clothes and a shaver. I asked the court system - how is this fair, because i have no place to sleep ? They said, it's not fair, but it's all your fault because you picked her. I never agreed to a contract like that again.

[@evilira718]

You might have been a wide beater

[@MrGchiasson]

60% of weddings are now simply "Prep divorce ceremonies. Don't cohabitate...don't even let a girlfriend leave anything at your place.

[@theguitarhero3]

Wait...did they just call us gay for not marrying crazy women? Thats insane man. 😂

[@bceaser1]

He calls everyone gay who doesn't want marriage.

[@DamitFeelsGoodtobeaRaider]

they're bible thumpers; they've never heard of ezk0rt sites👃

[@snefsnoof1068]

What do u expect from wome... errr, conservative men.

[@theguitarhero3]

@@bceaser1 Well I guess I'm gay for caring about my well-being. Do I atleast get the LGBTQ benefits from that?

[@inosukehashibira5511]

They projecting that's all

[@turner2952]

Lots of people are choosing to be alone, especially if they have been in abusive marriages and are now divorced and have had to start over. Alone=peace, safety, security, stability (financial security, financial stability). It doesn't mean that they want same s*x partners. It just means that they love their own company and the freedom to do what they want to do when they want to do it without having to deal with anyone else. I'm a "happy hermit".

[@cube252002]

That’s my choice, escapes an abusive 12 year marriage 7 1/2 years ago, was homeless 6 months as I started rebuilding my life, happier now than in over 2 decades and not interested in risking it!

[@turner2952]

@@cube252002 Good that you have overcome your trials and tribulations! Take care of YOU, because no one else will. I wish you all the best!

[@freakinccdevilleiv380]

💯 Everybody is going to end up in a pod eating bugs and just tending to their rented baby dog. You vil own nozing und be happy.

[@turner2952]

@@freakinccdevilleiv380 No NWO!

[@S1000xrhp]

The wise man learns from the experiences of others and makes the logical choice. If you see many men being financially & emotionally destroyed at the whim of women then it's perfectly logical to avoid that situation. It's not hard guys yet women can't understand.

[@lifeandtravelwithJ]

I did all the right things Daily Wire! I married young and to a woman with a 0 body count. She was raised in a highly conservative Christian family with both parents very active in the church. Her father would pastor to us frequently. She had a loving family and childhood. We both dated as teenagers and dated for years before living together. She slowly changed over the years and when she left I found out she had a bf as soon as she left. The moment we closed on a house she moved out into the new place then locked me out. All the signs were there but I ignored them and tried to " work through it" you can't work through someone who has already physically and mentally checked out. I still to the day have not lived a day in a house we bought together. Thank goodness we didn't have kids and I didn't have any money at the time or I would have been screwed further. When her bf left her she tried to come back and I shut it down. Now days she is a woke feminist who is still single in her early 30s and can't keep a man. I however get to travel invest, and go for women who are not from the West and have more conservative values. I would still be miserable and been a door mat if I would have stayed In that marriage!

[@xKage_kunx]

The best revenge is living a better life than those that did you wrong.

[@PassionateSpirit88]

Dam, that's scary!

[@Dexian-j9m]

​@@xKage_kunxOne fortunately, you can't get that revenge if you share children with them until the children are either eighteen or have graduated college. By that point, you are old and you should already be retired are close to it anyways.

[@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR]

The problem was you kept her in the west.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

The reason why she turned out to be dogshit despite having a decent family is because we live in an age where parents no longer have much influence over what type of person their children will grow up to be, that power now lies in the hands of academia, government and media. To an extent these institutions always had a important role in shaping people's personalities and values, but now the power of parents is completely gone.

[@ItsTimePictures]

Any male on a mainstream broadcast is born rich. Always. Every damn time. They live in a bubble.

[@cmonman3639]

The 19th amendment was the beginning of the end for the US. It was an absolutely suicidal mistake.

[@Greenyt1234]

Always is. Every society that tried giving their woman power all collapsed in a large part because of it. Every single one. Only took sparta 50 years.

[@stmartinhk]

The 13th wasn't much of an amendment either. They can still draft you and tax your labor. If they can take away any quantity of my labor - the income tax has gone as high as 90% at times - then how is that not slavery? We just don't get our meals and accomodation on the plantation. And ofc how much of that tax money goes to the reparations people? I swear, we live in a blender of bs.

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

Agreed

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

Agreed

[@BuffKangaroo1]

Don't say it out loud

[@danielread8549]

All these guys will learn when reamed by divorce courts..

[@jordansullivan7290]

They are controlled opposition mouthpieces. What they say doesn’t match what they believe.

[@HateDietPepsi]

These dudes think men are supposed to take one on the chin for the gynarchy.

[@makerKID5]

There is a guy in this group who is "undivorcable". Won't say his name but his wife's life would be destroyed if she even thought of a divorce. He thinks we all have this privilege.

[@drascalicus5187]

​@@makerKID5I wonder if the Shapiro's follow the old law, or if Abby could worm her way out of any consequences by a warping the Talmud or by federal/state court.

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

Yep

[@Hanzo1]

the conversatives and the feminists need to learn that you can't shame someone into doing what you want when they don't care what you think. we don't care.

[@stmartinhk]

You're right. That requires taxes.

[@jasonzacharias2150]

👏🏻👼🏻✌🏻

[@jaidee9570]

Absolutely correct. The right want you to be right, the left want you to be left, at the extremes of right and left there's very little to tell between them, they just want to control you. I think the vast majority of RP men are a little right of center, they'll accept some changes, and value the rights of others, but they won't be shamed into wearing a dress, or marrying a pin cushion (something that's had an uncountable number of pricks). I think RP men are dangerous to both left and right. Why? Because I don't think seeing the true nature of women stops there, I think we also see the true biased nature of society and our place in it. Hence it's not just avoiding women, a lot of RP men do just enough to get by, refuse to help women, wouldn't fight to defend their country, don't care if their society crumbles. Women's nature is where it starts, but almost like BB, that removal of blinkers leads to men stepping away from the mainstream. Stay safe

[@migooknamja]

Same logic with the maskies. They tried to shame us into wearing the masks. "Think of others" they would say...."selfish" they would say....

[@theelder4797]

One of the best things about these channels, learning the man ip you lation techniques I was blind to before - now their words have ZERO effect.

[@clintmatthews3500]

I pay my taxes, obey the law, and I take care of myself financially. What more do I owe society? What obligation do I have to produce children and/or offer up my resources to a woman? Are these DW guys conservatives or communists? Are they individualists or collectivists?

[@CTomCooper]

I’d say that ideologically they’re just statists who are controlled opposition. They dislike that communism because it trends in circles of democratic opposition is a threat to their collective desire to wield power, rather than disliking communism itself. When it comes to the warfare state which is ran by the old guard of socialists still in power, not that there’s any significant difference between socialists and communists because they’ll both justify political interests in war, they’re for it.

[@zf436]

You have no future. I wish you could have children and experience that joy instead of just paying taxes and earning money. Nothing criminal about what you do, just empty. For your sake.

[@1rockscar]

The Talmud is the literary origin of communism Enough said?

[@DJ239]

That opening with Crowder is just so bitter sweet.

[@I_like_turtles_67]

They should've brought in Steven. So they can talk to a guy who's been divorced.

[@yassermedrano8597]

Hahahaa

[@imadivergentandantinormiep7877]

Those conservative men like Shapiro, Peterson etc, are what Arthur Schopenhauer used to call "Men of learning" but that doesn't mean that they're smart or intelligent.

[@harbl99]

A great quadrangular sage once called them 'the educated stupid'.

[@Skelfi]

JBP znd Shapiro are smart, but they just don't understand the current state of gender dynamics.

[@CornCod1]

Peterson is knowledgeable about Psychology, but thinks he is an authority on everything under the sun. I don't mind a conservative saying "Hey, lets straighten out the institution of the family". It seems though, they want to blame the main victims of the broken marriage system, men.

[@scottlukowski1809]

Book smart, street stupid

[@Adamstern7]

Another term is NPC or non player character

[@Syrin23]

I personally have NEVER heard ANY red pill channel advocate male promiscuity. The common theme? Men should focus on their grind, their purpose and self improvement.

[@paulfisher3e]

Actually, Myron on Fresh and Fit does😊

[@Syrin23]

@@paulfisher3e Like I said, I have never seen it, so that's not the focus of their message even if they have stated it directly

[@vegetashairline3060]

Only someone like Tate does that. Most mens channels push for the opposite from men AND women.

[@DaMaster012]

@@vegetashairline3060 Andrew Tate is not red pilled; his pill is so blue, it's black. He's like Tyler Durden; he recognizes the system is broken because it's made and kept by broken people, but his vendetta is not to fix either; it's to create his own system so he can condition people to fulfill his own vices. Encouraging others to walk in his wake is just to affirm his own greed, lust, and pride. If the system was throwing Tate even more stacks and fracks than he gets by rebelling against, he'd be shilling for it as hard as Benito Shekelpiro does.

[@shaymalchione809]

The way they talk about women in general is horrible.

[@FarmingUnclear]

They expected men to improve but failed to see that someone has to be average. Average isn't bad.

[@jefferytokarsky1930]

Worse, women “improved” but they’ve been the beneficiaries of affirmative action ... often at men’s expense. The irony is that if a man doesn’t have to support a wife and family, he need not “improve” ... and it really seems to irk them that men are reacting rationally.

[@the-based-jew6872]

@@jefferytokarsky1930 always at men's expense*

[@R.I.F.T.]

The same years I made $193,000 and $199,000 I paid off my truck, paid off my debts, bought a small mobile home, moved into a mobile home park, socked away some savings, and bought inexpensive furniture off of Amazon. I still where clothes from 5 to 10 years ago. Women on dates with debt and no assets would tell me I could do better. Their idea of better is a more expensive vehicle with payments, $200,000+ mortgage, less savings and more spending on them for things like vacations. Often I'd go on blind dates (my mistake, I take responsibility) with women my coworkers and their wives knew. Always they talk about vacations, big houses, expensive cars, or being promoted at work. I have a cdl. I need to drive a truck in order to stay hirable do to insurance company's requirements. Insurance premiums are set according to experience requirements. More miles, more years driving experience, and 0 or 1 or 2 accidents lowers insurance rates. If I take a promotion then within 1 month to 2 years I am unhirable with many companies that pay six figures. Its why i always turn down promotions. Most coworkers I have known to take promotions come to regret it when they eventually need to change jobs. They always tell me, "You were right." Needless to say it never went anywhere with any of the dates. Not one thought about retirement, saving for a rainy day, etc. Thinking like they do sets a man up for failure. As soon as there's rough times the man becomes cash strapped, she calls him a deadbeat, and every one of their stories about exs I read that between the lines.

[@FallacyAsPraxis]

These “Conservative” guys all live in a bubble. They’re all rich and elitist but keep trying to convince the people who listen to them that they’re just like the rest of us. Having a lot of money, fame, and a platform to judge and pontificate makes all the difference.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Well, I'm not convinced they don't know how bad it really is outside the bubble. I think they're just willing to sacrifice a few OTHER men so long as it keeps them comfy.

[@arslongavitabrevis5136]

Very well said! You belong to a tiny minority: "Intelligent Americans". I wish you well.

[@josiah5776]

Don't forget blind luck. Each one of these tradcon men lives in their current life at the sole pleasure and discretion of their wife. They are all just step away from divorce, losing their kids and 50% or more of their assets ... when their wife wakes up one morning and decides she is bored or "not happy" anymore. They they will be like all the rest of us schmucks they so self-righteously lecture.

[@ltb1345]

@@arslongavitabrevis5136 Most Americans who don't go to universities remain intelligent.

[@logangodofcandy]

The only reason any of these guys are still married is because they are rich and famous.

[@what-about-bob]

The men in this meeting are owned. They dare not say anything controversial. I am surprised their owners have let them out to have this meeting.

[@DJ-jq5rh]

Yes they are owned.

[@Rajamak]

Yes, even this milquetoast stance is them out on a limb. They simply aren’t allowed to have a true RP opinion.

[@xjgal7702]

I would argue they say controversial things all the time! All the Media Matters pieces on Knowles and Walsh would seem to indicate that is true. What about “what is a woman” and “Lady Ballers” and Knowles CPAC speech etc. Or Walsh’s reporting on anti-whiteness

[@Dayz3O6]

@@xjgal7702 They might be against the leftoid but they are not pro Trump or pro populist. They are what you call conservative inc Mark Dice perfectly call that out, think of them as the new Bush type conservatives. Neo Con.

[@TT09B5]

@@xjgal7702 You can still agree with people on certain issues.. Matt is right about the "what is a "woman" and anti whiteness is a thing. The Simthotiain even had an exhibit on it, plenty of POC "DEI" hiring office admit to it. The royal air force got in trouble because they were purposely not promoting white men..

[@Insictis]

Traditional gynocentrics vs progressive gynocentrics. There’s no camp for us men.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Nothing traditional about either. The ways of old are VERY clear about loose women.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

Indeed, boys. We need better political and media representation.

[@theguybehindyou4762]

Democrat or Republican, boomers are all left-wing on the issue of women.

[@steveg2277]

Sure there is. The war camp.

[@JayTheArtfulDodger]

Two sides of the same coin.

[@seancopley-b8p]

yo, my man BB you are quickly becoming the last "sane" voice left on the mens rights issue. Your level of nuance and perception of actual reality, at its core, is fundamentally head and shoulders above all the connivers, scammers and grifters out here trying to scam a buck. Keep it up as long as you can brother, we with you out here✊✊✊

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

There's also Bo from Legion of Men, very much worth the time of day.

[@johnnastrom9400]

What about Rich Cooper?

[@berteabdel7722]

​@@user-yc5um2pl5vI in fact subscribed to Joker last year from someone mentioning him in Bo's comment section.

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

@@berteabdel7722 Respect! You did the right thing! And it's very much in order to spread the word about the worthy, based youtubers so people won't get fooled by the grifters and posers.

[@user-yk4gd1fl4z]

@@johnnastrom9400as long as you buy his vitamins and superiority complex !

[@bazzingabomb]

A bunch of millionaires talking about the " ordinary man " debating what they're doing wrong and what they should be doing. They have absolutely no idea not a damn clue, and they are all confirmed hypocrites.

[@USA2Brazil]

100% Agreed, also most of these so called Con-servatives experts had a leg-up in life that many of us didn't have.

[@aservantinbabylon]

Facts.

[@emillkim13]

I've never seen a group of men with the most punchable smug faces. They are literally just stroking each other's ego with the same crap. You saying "debate" is way too kind. They are just taking turns grandstanding. Not one dissenting voice.

[@joshcal7370]

Yeah, we should be listening to an ordinary man who is in a position to spread words of wisdom and advice. Oh wait, then they wouldn't be ordinary anymore and you'd hate them too.

[@truthsyrup5764]

I'll listen to an accomplished person, yes.

[@Grolock751]

Those guys have now entirely destroyed their credibility. The profound & possibly deliberate ignorance, hysterical emotionalism & simplistic buffoonery they have demonstrated gives the lie to any pretense of intellectual legitimacy that they ever demonstrated. They have shown themselves to just be more cast members in the clown show.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Definitely deliberate

[@GradySizemore-k8i]

They are a psy op I promise you. Tim pool is fake as well. So is joker btw

[@januaryonenineteenseventy4195]

Ditto; never said better

[@xjgal7702]

I listen to these guys pretty regularly and like a lot of what they say. Michael Knowles is probably my favorite, but he has some Catholic views that don’t agree with me entirely. Can anyone point me to other evidence of their dishonesty? It seems to me like they are just too far out of the dating scene and lucky enough to have found good women themselves. I don’t find them to be very disingenuous, just off base on this topic (for a kinda predictable reason)

[@lilsstrunks]

Even scientists have to answer to someone and when they pay your bills you do what they say, sadly. Most people truly don't have morals when it comes to "making money"

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

They claim marriage isn't an institution made by man, but rather one made by God. Ok... How does God say to deal with these issues? How does God say to deal with infidelity and divorce? Shall I go gather up some loose stones? No... They want to hide behind the name of God without adhering to the word of God.

[@BuffKangaroo1]

Haha

[@GardeningAndGod]

Amen to that brother!

[@mr.mayhem7402]

If God got divorced, he'd do away with it, and the Bible would be filled with warnings and commandments forbidding it.

[@chrissawyer1484]

​@@mr.mayhem7402 Jesus pretty much DID say divorce was wrong, and when his disciples said, "well, then it's better that men don't get married", He responded back with, "yep, but you aren't able to accept that. Only the ones that God gives this understanding to can do that." (Matthew 19:1-12)

[@Defx10]

@@chrissawyer1484 He also said it is permitted for a man to divorce his wife in cases of "sexual immorality," which is pretty much a green light for ALL divorce the way modern women are these day.

[@midgetydeath]

Why should I pay alimony for someone who isn’t my wife? Why should I pay child support for kids taken from me or from kids that weren’t mine in the first place?

[@david2498]

It's a contract. Women don't believe in "love." It's actually sex drive. Master it, or you will be forever trying to climb back into a vulva. (Wrap up, you'll save yourself so much)

[@namenotfound6881]

Women are impulsive spenders. Transferring a man’s wealth to a woman means more money and power for the powers that be

[@jacksonbrowne6693]

I guess Crowder didn't become the man his wife wanted him to be Lmao

[@colin1657]

He should've learned to code.

[@kylekatarn5964]

He's also an emotional toddler, so there's that.

[@ltb1345]

I keep imagining the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme during those clips, LMAO.

[@BmanTheChamp]

No, the problem is she kept changing her mind about what kind of man she wanted and he couldn't keep up.

[@remo27]

@@BmanTheChamp I don't know the details but if you listened to him enough to put it all together and that was the alleged problem (I assume that would be his explanation of the problem) well, it sounds more to me like she was just 'changing her expectations' deliberately until he failed. In other words, for whatever reason or reasons she had already given up on the marriage and wanted out. So she threw him as many burning hoops to leap through or over as she could till he invariably would 'fail' at some of them and thus she could rationalize her decision to divorce.

[@thebigpig2364]

I was always told by my school, my church, and my parents that women don’t need men. Throughout my middle school, high school, and even college years. Not once was I told by anyone that men don’t need women. But I think it’s the most important thing for young men to hear. You don’t need them to be happy!

[@halcyonzenith4411]

Not only do you not need them but you cannot have happiness with them around. A happy man is unproductive. You must be kept miserable so that you will work more. Removing women from your life is the cheat code for lasting happiness

[@logangodofcandy]

Men don't need women. Women do need men.

[@upside-downphflag8395]

The church's argument always goes back to the creation of Eve, where God said, "It is not good for man to be alone; I will make a helper suitable for him." Nobody points out that most modern women have literally no desire to be helpers, much less suitable for a man in God's image.

[@halcyonzenith4411]

@@upside-downphflag8395 I want my rib back

[@wvanyar1801]

@@upside-downphflag8395 , the Bible has much to say about a wife. Proverbs 31:10-12 "A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies.11Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value. 12She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life." Also Proverbs 31:30 "Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised." There are many more verses about a wife in the Bible. What stood out to me in the verses I listed were a wife needed to be of Noble character and brings him (husband) good, not harm. The last is also very telling in todays world, "charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting". I'm happily married, have been form 35+ years. My wife embodies Proverbs 31:10-31. While I still feel she is beautiful at 60 years old, the world would not consider her beautiful (worldly beauty is fleeting). Finding a woman in today's world that embodies what it is to truly be a wife, is very hard. I'm glad I found my ruby all those years ago. Even back in the 1980s, I ended up with a girlfriend that cheated on me before I found my ruby.

[@brothersingaming6372]

“These woman are victims of feminisms and it’s not entirely their fault.” Way to absolve them from the responsibility of their choices. When it comes to the topic of marriage the DW just tackles half the topic and completely dismiss the other half that screws over the men.

[@TheFredmac]

Once again women being absolved of accountability.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

Good, I'm happy I am not the only one who see this. World doesn't go down the drain for 5 or 6 people, it need everyone to be like it is

[@asdzt123]

I think they'd use other standards towards abusive men for example. If women do wrong it's society's fault. If men do wrong it's 100% men's fault.

[@BmanTheChamp]

I would _love_ to ask this panel one hypothetical question. Let's say you're standing at a crosswalk, about to cross the street. On this particular street, any person that happens to cross it has an over 75% chance of being hit by a car. Now, there's more to it. If you get hit, it's your own fault, and the driver can decide to sue you. Now, will you cross that road?

[@eatshityoutube3271]

Be a man, cross the road according to these guys smh

[@Marcara081]

A woman asking a man to get married is like leading him across the street with a blindfold on...and INSISTING that he HAS TO wear it.

[@Cyber-Rain]

Pretty much it's like this. "We know that bridge is rickety, unsafe, and not worth crossing. You should cross it still. No, we are not going to fix it, but you should still cross it."

[@covertcounsellor6797]

Excellent analogy!

[@AndyStitzer]

And half of all previous bridges have collapsed

[@vira1340]

Very well said.

[@Sylvine]

To play the devil's advocate: Sometimes that's still good advice. I mean, maybe there's safety on the other side and hungry tigers on Your side? Not in this case though. And even if it were... They are too fixated on the bridge, not on the tigers. There are other ways to get over the river, or stay safe on this side of it.

[@Letsplay222]

Matt Walsh's addendum: Because what else are you going to do? NOT cross the bridge and just get old and die there on this side of the bridge?

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

Title Should be: Married men desperately tries to convert Free-men to their lifestyle LOL like recruiting them into a cult

[@GLoLChibs]

They're all ideologues. They do have cult like behavior regarding Conservatism.

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

@@GLoLChibs funny thing is that they are probably not actually recruiting anyone with these kind of videos only the super young and the people who already agree with them anyways it's probably just preaching to the choir to cash out at this point

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

Yeah. No more plantation for me

[@jasonzacharias2150]

It is an occult... Social engineering for the win 😢

[@vegetashairline3060]

Fr, these people give the same vibes as single women in their 30s that rode the cc all their adult life, and now are miserable but online tell younger women to be the same way.

[@morganmorse2086]

Joker, I appreciate you calling out the BS on both sides. Lord knows nobody has a monopoly on nonsense.

[@adjuchasbrokk8033]

This behaviour always comes from people who have been married a while or in long term relationships. They think their good fortune is normal and anyone experiencing negative outcomes is just a result of them being inferior or dysfunctional... until misfortune strikes them.

[@williammuthee2474]

As a redpill men, i will sit back smiling as society collapses and all slurs are launched at me. I am indifferent.

[@jasonzacharias2150]

Nero fiddled as Rome burned...

[@turner2952]

In a perfect world, all the redpilled people would be homesteading on 50+ acres and live peacefully by dropping out of society. No tv no cellphone, just living off the land. The ultimate freedom.

[@jaidee9570]

​@@jasonzacharias2150 so Nero was indifferent about Rome, you'd have to admit he was heavily invested in Rome. RP men aren't invested in modern society, what do they lose if it burns?

[@Ven0mLp]

We stay unfazed as the rotten empire collapses around us. 🗿

[@theelder4797]

Just survive to tell the rebuilders HOW this happened: giving childMinds voting power.

[@chumblesthecheese8580]

Those two Crowder clips at the beginning side by side... pure karmic justice. *chef's kiss* et voila

[@PricelessBinkey1337]

The only thing missing was the goofy music that ended with a "whomp whomp"

[@centertrance6466]

What exactly did he do wrong ? Have a different opinion its abit ironic but karmic idk man

[@jasonzacharias2150]

That was brutal... Wicked witch world isn't looking too hot these days

[@smartass0124]

You should hear Rachel Oats response

[@zephyrr108]

He even grew a beard lol. Based

[@Icutrauma11]

None of these men would ever stand together the way the truckers are to sacrifice money to boycott New York.

[@TheSportCompact]

Ben and Boring literally tried to screw over their supposed friend Crowder then cried victim when he didn't let them, called them out and exposed their scumbaggery

[@johnserosanguineous1886]

I wonder if any of them have ever built a shed, changed oil, fired a gun that wasn't 250 years old.

[@evilira718]

They ain’t boycotting Manhattan.

[@AndyStitzer]

Greedy small hats

[@AR-ey1ur]

Of course not. It's a business for them. They're milking the counter-narrative.

[@normanmerritt1395]

The problem with modern marriage is that when you get married you stand before a firing squad with the knowledge that there is a 50% or higher chance that the firing line has live ammo. (That is divorce) many men just are no longer willing to take that risk.

[@richardscathouse]

I don't want the government in my life. That includes marriage. Like all registration, it's not for me. I live my own life, if I wanted 24/7 government guidance, I'd move to North Korea 😢

[@AnonymousJ0E404]

“You don’t win by changing strategies. You win by not playing.”

[@wrongthinker843]

You can't win by changing strategies within rules set by the enemy. Not playing by their rules is still changing strategies.

[@BrainWasherAttendent]

Yes men should be alone. It’s not despair, it’s peace.

[@theelder4797]

That's why we escape to the bathroom, pondering, "Why the FUUUUUUUKK did I marry/relationship?!?"

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

But didn't you know that it's gay to not be married? You don't want to be gay like all those monastic orders or Jesus, do you?

[@NahuCommNS]

​@@DiogenesDworkinson Is it? Well, i'll happily be gay then. Cheers.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

​@@NahuCommNS lol... Yeah, those wire boys crack me up sucking cigars and playing at being men with their smooth, soft hands and pretty hair, hiding behind the image of God while disgracing the word and legacy of God. They don't argue in good faith... They'll say anything to bring men to heel, even if that's actually calling Jesus a bit of a fae goat.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

@@Mikael-jt1hk lol... Yeah,thosewireboyscrackmeupsuckingcigarsandplayingatbeingmenwiththeirsmooth,softhandsandprettyhair,hidingbehindtheimageofGodwhiledisgracingthewordandlegacyofGod.Theydon'targueingoodfaith...They'llsayanythingtobringmentoheel,evenifthat'sactuallycallingJesusabitofafaegoat.

[@freecat1278]

They complained about Bill Maher's film about Christianity. Now they take his exact same approach in their criticism of the manosphere.

[@seamusesparza1943]

None of these conservatives are well educated in the liberal arts.

[@PhantomFilmmaker-jd9ho]

It is 99.9% impossible to have a traditional relationship

[@R14-m4z]

​@@PhantomFilmmaker-jd9hoThe bankers (BIS) have engineered the situation to be this way through the Tavistock institute and their control of the academic industrial complex (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc.).

[@Sam_Iamknot]

@@PhantomFilmmaker-jd9hoYou are absolutely incorrect. Because you suck as a human and have self-confidence issues which cause you to make poor decisions and even more difficult times than others; isn't everyone else's problem too. "99.9%" You're a joke.

[@superdarklink]

I want you to consider matt Walsh's words there. Even though he admitted the courts are stacked against you, and the women are low quality, je still wants you to engage the system and be miserable, risk losing everything, because the alternative is being miserable. Think about that.

[@Gemmycobson]

Well he’s jewish.

[@DanielWolfe]

I sensed a change in Ben Shapiros demeanor. For some reason, I sensed that he was gonna go the way of Steven Crowder, and all the other said "red pilled" guys telling us to man up and get married, even when they know that the odds are against men in the divorce days or post divorce days to come. It's like once I sense a change of thought, demeanor, or attitude from ppl like them, I just stopped following and listening to them altogether. We told them a gazillion times, yet they loop back and preach the same dang thing like we're supposed to ignore it. It's amazing what fame and greed to can do to you mentally, if that's even the case. If you have to go so far as to bash us and make fun of us for not settling with a modern Western woman, you will not get my support.

[@nate7LP_my_dog_found_the_knife]

It's almost like a sixth sense.

[@GLoLChibs]

It's not fame and greed on their part, they're buried in ideology and insist every one live by their ideology.

[@inufan129087]

​@GLoLChibs I think that's called cult ideology. Left or right, it's all the same. Believe what I believe, don't think, just do.

[@dzvw]

@@inufan129087 Yep. Both the left and the right want you to slave yourself to a woman. They don't care about you.

[@jasonzacharias2150]

He needs to losen that kippla....

[@raulsanches3619]

Men do not have to be sacrificial lambs.

[@jasonzacharias2150]

This comment is potentially antiscience antivax and antisemitic please reconsider expressing your thoughts and concerns in 24

[@raulsanches3619]

@@jasonzacharias2150 all the more reason to stand by it. no matter what

[@safapresley]

Im vaxxed twice with Pfizer. No issues

[@shawnbrooks5293]

I've stopped taking the daily wire seriously simply because of their attitude toward marriage. If they're so wrong about that I have to question everything else they believe.

[@viper62967]

It does make you think ... and lose respect for their supposed wisdom.

[@Mister-Six]

Why would you take them seriously to begin with?

[@idontcare9797]

Ben took the "medicine"

[@ltb1345]

@@Mister-Six I appreciated their work to combat mutilation ideology, especially Walsh's movie...but they're out of touch boomers on nearly everything else.

[@mediocreman2]

That's dumb. They're wrong about it because they haven't experienced it going wrong. Why is that different? Because it occurs on a deeply emotional level. It destroys you on a level that nobody can understand without experiencing it.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

Crowder got into medical trouble and... **BAM** divorced by his "perfect wife." Just throwing another log on the fire. I would love to marry a good woman. Anybody here know of a woman whose family was filthy rich and cloistered her in a conservative religious private school and married her of the moment she was legal? That seems to be how most of the DW team got married.

[@laisphinto6372]

I think in crowders Case He was more the Problem and funnily enough He behaves more Like the Red pill strawman than many "incels". He was self projecting

[@RB-sh4lo]

But how soon will it be for one (or more) of the wives to the DW guys will think that they have missed out on a "hoe phase" and want to be single so they can sleep around?

[@mrstealyoblocks4473]

They're SO SMART....they're divorced.

[@simplelifeinfo3913]

they're all married though besides Crowder

[@toolegittoquit_001]

Try again ...

[@truthteller4442]

Just look at Dennis Prager. The goof has been divorced like 3 or 4 times. I mean, the stuff is hilarious. Like, HEY GUY...you're ugly and fat. They're just using you for money!!!! DUH!!!!

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

​@@simplelifeinfo3913 allegedly. Has anyone actually seen their "wives?"

[@OrwellsHousecat]

✅

[@regulaguy1733]

I've got a few people to unfollow/block after this incident. This whole "take one for the team" message ain't resonating with me at all. It's always the same message directed just to men. Which basically is "Be a better slave." No man who has ever did his best and got screwed by a system that was set up for him to fail would give advice like these guys did.

[@Greenyt1234]

"Some of you may die...but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make"

[@07wrxtr1]

You would enjoy the old arcangel vids

[@regulaguy1733]

@@07wrxtr1 Never heard of that. I'll have to check it out.

[@zobechibe371]

I'll skip a video with any of these faces on it

[@johnsmith-ht3sy]

The whole economic system relies on enslaving men and stealing their money. That is why there is this almighty push to get free men back onto the plantation.

[@culturedbrother]

Woah, did they seriously call us gay for refusing to marry? How stupid do you need to be to come to that conclusion?

[@Defender2516]

Your always perceived negatively unless you live up to their world ideology.

[@franklinwalston9468]

Yes, in fact Michael Knowles said if you are having seggs with a woman outside of marriage without procreation as the goal, it's gay. That man needs a dictionary.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

They sounds like womanshaming men in the 90'-2000's: you don't want me? What are you, gay? It seems that conservatives are 20 years backwards, as usual, in 2044 they will start understanding Redpill and MGTOWs

[@salguodrolyat2594]

Wel they ARE closet homophobes.🤔

[@VaronPlateando]

that 'conclusion' indeed makes for an exceptionally dull take on the matter, in multiple regards.

[@caligula5583]

What most of these creators fail to realize is that you can find a wonderful damn near perfect woman. But women are ruled by their emotions and their desires can change at the drop of a hat. Marriage is an institution that not only does nothing to repress the impulses, but also rewards the woman for letting them run wild.

[@JJ-vp3bd]

What's the solution

[@caligula5583]

@@JJ-vp3bd The simplest solution is do not get married. If you want to live together never move into a place she owns and be aware of the areas common law marriage laws. If she starts to test you by trying to cross your boundaries let her know that she is more than free to do so, but you will no longer be able to maintain a "committed" relationship with her. The key is to never give her the impression that you will not end the relationship if your boundaries are crossed.

[@debianlasmana8794]

@@JJ-vp3bd neuralink

[@laisphinto6372]

Marriage doesnt do that the twisted corruption of marriage without god and the State did that, real marriage IS a commitment of man and Woman to BE together for the Rest of their Life under God , have children and raise them according to god whenever this doesnt Happen a marriage IS useless. For example the path you swear to your marriage Partner IS Not Something taken lightly because you Not only swear to your marriage Partner but also to god that you Go through thick and think Till death Sets you apart. When Just one of you doesnt Take that path seriously the whole concept of marriage IS worthless If you dont Take IT seriously a Thing all failed marriages do or at least one Partner in a marriage

[@caligula5583]

@@laisphinto6372 I agree with you that having a shared faith in a marriage will greatly strengthen it. If there is a place where you can get married without any government contract involved that would be ideal. However, this will not change the basic nature of most women. Most women are guided by their emotions, and these can change rapidly and without warning. Even without any environmental incentives, nothing will change this basic nature. Any parties involved with any kind of relationship, from one-night-stands to marriages, should keep this in mind. Relationships have a cost, and you must remember it will always be a gamble.

[@gabrielboorom2683]

Yeah, most of these guys are a joke. They're all on The Plantation.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

✅

[@jasonzacharias2150]

You are number 6, i am number 2

[@gabrielboorom2683]

@@jasonzacharias2150 "Who is Number 1?"

[@LudwigPaiste28]

@@gabrielboorom2683I AM NOT A NUMBER. I AM A FREE MAN. HAHAHAHA. 🥁 DUN DUN DUTDUT DUN

[@jaidee9570]

And invested in it, they simply want to see a return on their investment.

[@TimBitts649]

Marriage is in collapse. They know that. They are scared of the consequences.

[@jasonzacharias2150]

They are running low on their working class slave retention numbers... Shapiro has dollar signs in his eyes

[@Okunniger_Volker]

Which tells me they are gatekeepers. If the majority of men who primarily work in infrastructure say "No" to the system and women, the system and women will have no choice but to comply. Take the truckers and NY right now.

[@theelder4797]

​@@Okunniger_VolkerWow, that must be HIGHLY suppressed - what's happening in NY?

[@alche209]

@@theelder4797 BIG NYC boycott from truckers. Began after Trump was ordered to pay like 350 million dollars for a civil fraud case.

[@phantomform4171]

It's a defense mechanism. If they admit marriage is a scam in this country, to them, it's the same as denying their religion. It's just their programming telling them to defend it no matter what.

[@patrioticaussiesams8581]

You can be the best guy EVER but that won't save you from divorce and the unfair divorce laws and family law courts bias against men. The only safe way to get around the laws and avoid Divorce is DON'T GET MARRIED EVER.. simple

[@tonynewman3631]

Marriage is the leading cause of divorce. Fact.

[@hussle2654]

Yep, just look at Tom Brady... How in the world does his ex wife think she will ever top him? She had it all and it still wasn't enough.

[@lilfairycupcake]

exactly!

[@theelder4797]

👍💯

[@involuntarilychad4048]

My friend worked full time, did all the cooking and house work, stayed up many nights with one of his children in the hospital, gave his wife foot massages, and worked himself to literal exhaustion for his wife and two kids. Last year he tried to commit suicide... Can you guess why? Yup you guessed it. Literally all the wife cheating and ejecting clichés.

[@harrydavis1513]

She divorced after 10 years? How convenient. Now she gets alimony and maintenance… welcome to the red pill.

[@MrGchiasson]

Crowder is the classic case. No sympathy here...after all his self righteous lectures...now he "faced the music" and lost his stuff.

[@Felipe_XIV-XVI]

LOL, there cannot be a serious debate in which literally the six participants in the round table just agree with each other. It doesn't work like that.

[@dunkirk1581]

It's all propaganda and are probably paid to promote/manipulate

[@jeremystonell690]

This pretty much happens everywhere though. It's why the only logical response is Thomas Sowell's. You retreat from 'the educated stupid' and only speak when asked a question otherwise you just do you job without comment.

[@thelionprince4530]

Yes there can......It's called a "circle jerk"...🤣

[@yassermedrano8597]

Agree

[@hoottasshell]

They're just stroking each other's opinion, and gaslighting the viewer. Exactly..

[@BaconMinion]

In the end, both sides of this see you as disposable and a means just to make money. And both groups actively hate you. As always, it's best to just walk away and not get involved with them.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

Yup. It's part of the plan man. It's part of the plan. They know continuing this horrible shizz is exactly what keeps men down. Men who can change the world.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

They get to laugh like aristocrats eating the finest aged cheeses while we accept the trash filled cesspool of a world. The rich are gonna bang through all the women anyway while the media blames us so whatever.

[@brigandboy1425]

Matt Walsh in particular is amazingly inane in his arguments, especially here. "I agree with them on family courts etc" and then in the next sentence "So what do we do?" And he acts like people haven't answered him. They certainly have. The solution is simple. 1) Don't get married. Ever. For any reason. Never. Not even with a prenup. Until, 2) We fix the marriage system we have so that if one person is bored or done, they don't get cash and prizes. 3) Fix the family courts (having the ability to appeal decisions would all by itself be a huge improvement). 4) Stop selling lies to young men and women that you can do anything you want with no consequence. 5) Do away with welfare (with it, women "marry" the government, and never men). There are more things we need to fix, but those 5 are the absolute must-haves if you want marriage to be a good investment for anyone except for soulless women who want to milk men for money and time while cheating and having suckers raise some other guy's kids. Matt's solution is... what? LOL What? "I know things are bad, and that sucks guys but keep doing it anyway we don't have a choice." These are weak men. This is why I don't listen to them anymore. Almost none of their advice is worthwhile.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

But... but... They have cigars! And knowles spent 9 hours with ethots! Doesn't that give them enough "hello, fellow youth!" credits to be REAL men TM?

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

His answer is: just get married anyway.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

​@@DiogenesDworkinsonlol!!! 😅 No. It was the pomade.

[@Mister-Six]

Fixing the family courts, laws, and the marriage system will never fix female nature. Change all the laws and rules you want, and women will still be the same.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

oh come on... even if divorce courts were fixed and family courts become something than RapeCourts against men, women who grow with that will think the same, will be the same people that see you as an ATM to suck dry and make you miserable in the process. This whole society is fucked beyond repair, I cannot believe those high self-fartsniffed assholes tell me to take the dish of shit and eat it anyways just because there is no other option, even if the dish is changed the meal is still literal shit. I'm out.

[@jrossofskb]

I don't give a flying F what women do. If I can benefit from it then so be it. If I can't, I'll just keep on keeping on.

[@MickeyDC-om3pv]

More than 50% ending in divorce shows it is not people picking wrong. Divorce is main stream, longevity is not.

[@Dexian-j9m]

Even a large percentage of men in the red coke community still say that it's men's fall for picking wrong.

[@TheMaleRei]

If say the successful marriage rate went to 99%, but the marriage rate fell to say 10% - the TradCons and SoCons would say: "SEE! SEE! Marriage is a good idea! If you marry you're going to remain together! GET MARRIED!" If someone were to point out that people are *very* careful in *who* they marry and that's why it's so "successful" - the TradCons and SoCons would just handwave it away and just say - "If you get married, the odds are you won't get divorced!"

[@Winterascent]

It is their fault! They picked marriage! lol @@Dexian-j9m

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Well, getting divorced is kinda still proof a man picked wrong... after all, he picked to get married.

[@Dexian-j9m]

@DiogenesDworkinson And how many women don't change their hair color until after they are married? How many women don't get tattoos all over their body? Until after their married? How many women Get into witchcraft after they are married? How many women don't post online talking about how much Awful men are until after they are married? How many women Decided they were going to start champion trends and gays. After they were married? You see? These are the markers and many more that we go by to determine if a potential woman is good enough to get married to. Lots of them change frequently. And that is exactly why marking and companies only target women nowadays is because how they are willing to change their principles. They live their life by on a whim.

[@CognitiveDissident.]

The irony of resorting to shaming and fallacy while calling people Leftists, is rather rich.

[@neozhao2376]

True, but coming from those with a Christian world view, is that really so surprising? One of the pillars of their faith is their belief in original sin, and regular rituals of confession for their sins to be forgiven, which really isn't that different from modern liberals if you think about it. Just replace original sin with inherent bias and focus on diversity and inclusion, and it's basically a 1-1 mapping.

[@Rajamak]

@@neozhao2376that’s not a Christian view, that’s a Catholic view. Very different.

[@LiberPater777]

​@@RajamakHow are Catholics not Christians, pray tell.

[@jaidee9570]

​@@Rajamak what was the reason for the crucifixion of Jesus, if it wasn't to die for our sins?

[@neozhao2376]

​@@Rajamak Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. You'll have to explain to me what you mean when you say the two are very different. I suspect you are speaking of Protestants, another branch of Christianity which places more emphasis on individual faith compared to "acts of good" like donating to the church. As a natural consequence of this difference in belief structure, Protestants tend to have less rituals. Nevertheless, all branches of Christianity believe in Jesus Christ as our lord and savior via his death saving us from the original sin we inherited from Adam and Eve. Additionally, all branches of Christianity have rituals of worship that revolve around God's love of humans as expressed in his forgiveness of our sins, whether it be community holidays or individual prayer. Thus, I say that this worldview and rituals are Christian. If you have an example of some branch of Christianity that doesn't hold that belief regarding Christ or completely lacks rituals, I'd be interested in learning about it.

[@MrBKuv]

Name calling is a confession that you’ve lost the argument.

[@Dexian-j9m]

Not at all. This only applies if the name you're calling them isn't true. If it is true, it is completely allowed as they should not have been the thing that you're calling them in the first place.

[@jacobsaunders8537]

This kind of stuff reminds me of HR and manager stories. Not caring about problems happening in a company for years but the SAME DAY it effects them, it gets fixed. 😂😂

[@GearForTheYear]

Nothing screams “Please take us seriously - we are very important” more than sitting around a fireplace in suits smoking cigars.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Might have been more effective if any of them had callouses... Regardless, it was funny AF watching knowles stumble his way into calling jesus a, ummm... well, I mean if not having kids and not marrying women is gay, and Jesus was single, no kids and led countless men to a monastic lifestyle, what was Jesus? Good job, Knowles...

[@sivan3125]

They're trying to be the anti-TATES. 😂😂

[@d_lom9253]

And brown liquor, probably drinking from that one good bottle you keep in the back for special occasions

[@DukeWooze]

Nothing more manly then having a phallic object sticking out of your mouth.

[@BestPrezz]

​@@d_lom9253 Ice tea, my friend

[@MEATOGRE]

These guys were never on your side. If you thought they were, congratulations, you got played as they got rich in the name is self-interest with your cash. Clowns everywhere.

[@ICEknightnine]

it's like an episode of black mirror.

[@theguybehindyou4762]

They did help ignite pushback against the left, even if they never intended for it to get this far.

[@masterblaster1502]

Any male pushing the degeneracy of being a knee-taker betabuxxer under gynocentric law is either delusional on 1950s copium or willingly setting you up to be fleeced.

[@qdpqbp]

"my wife has not screwed me over, in a system that makes her perfectly capable, I must be a great husband"

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

wife: "the safe word is Harder" (she's the top you are the bottom)

[@Rajamak]

Yet

[@AnteLene]

They're traitors to the bill of rights - they alienated themselves from their own right to life, liberty, and property by consenting to a gravely non-reciprocal contract.

[@nocturnaljoe9543]

These people honestly believe that every single woman makes over 600k a year and reads Kant for breakfast. Calling unmarried men gay is the cherry on top. No sane human being will ever take them seriously ever again.

[@Savvynomad225]

It’s the epitome of ivory tower argumentation. The college professor making 500k a year with 60 days vacation each year, talking in a group of colleagues about Biden’s presidency: “Why are people complaining about inflation? They must have went to the wrong school”

[@andrewc318]

They all sound like my parents giving dating advice. Just absolutely clueless

[@remc0s]

"You just go out and buy a girl a drink; that's how i met your mother."

[@perori_neko]

Why don't they tell women to buy dude a drink I wonder

[@andrewc318]

@@remc0s haha pretty much.

[@Mergazoid]

There is a new conservative meta and the Daily Mail is lagging 20 years behind.

[@vegetashairline3060]

Agreed. They are unaware of the modern dating sphere. It is time for us men to put our feet down, firmly in unison. No more divorce ruining our lives, no more being the scape goat of women, and no more taking the load on our backs. We must do what is right for men, because men keep this country going.

[@AndyStitzer]

They live in a upper-class, small-hat bubble. Ignorance is bliss I suppose?

[@deidresable]

Shapiro, Knowles almost all of them small hat

[@gbBakuryu]

What they don't realize is that many men seek purpose and a legacy, and the simplest way to achieve it is by creating a family, so many guys want that. It takes a lot to drive men away from that, and they are completely driven away from that. They are treating the symptom and not the disease.

[@AlexanderJoneshttps]

Like lots of guy's want meaningful relationships but not given the opptunity it really sucks for alot of guys

[@szn1580]

This guy gets it. Women tear apart families the most not men

[@TheMaleRei]

@@szn1580 It is very TradCon and SoCon to declare, without saying it, that "Women Are Wonderful" (WAW), that "Women cannot sin - and if it's demonstrated that somehow a woman *has* sinned - well, it's the fault of a man." The TradCons and SoCons, unironically, are completely aligned with Feminists in this respect.

[@DsSc-r8g]

Needing a legacy is so silly. Enjoy your life don’t worry about what will be here when you’re gone

[@szn1580]

@@TheMaleReithe church and doctrines have gone completely feminine which is ironic because the Bible says over and over again women are not to be in leadership positions EVER.

[@brodel20]

It is almost as if (they) are controlled opposition.

[@Okunniger_Volker]

(Laughs in lady maga) what are you talking about?!

[@wewuzkangz2505]

OY VEY!

[@soulsharts]

I have zero emotion listening to these guys trying to shame me into finding a woman to marry. They don't know my life story and how I came to believe the things I believe. I may like many of the things they normally say about other topics, but their words on this issue go in one ear and out the other. My response to them is simply "k" as I shrug my shoulders, apathetic to their disappointment of me, as if they're authorities that know what's better for my life than I do.

[@richardscathouse]

True. I also have no interest in games 70% or better guaranteed to lose. *Marriage *Voting *Wall St just not for me. 😢

[@lukelabare6580]

I consider myself a conservative and even I can see all their arguments against the red pill are either wrong or just straight up disingenuous

[@mediocreman2]

I just think they're too detached. It's like if I asked the King of England how much ramen costs.

[@jefferytokarsky1930]

Feminism didn’t try to destroy marriage, it succeeded. The only way to fix it is to make women accountable … that is, make them live with the consequences of their choices. Women made this mess, let them suffer (men have been), then fix it … as unlikely as that is. A man needs a woman like a fish needs a fishing lure … better to ignore it and not get caught.

[@dblezi]

Conservatives are gelded and almost all are F - ists. They can’t even identify the core problem. Many identity as Christian’s and they still cannot figure out the problem. It’s really laughable at best how simple the problems are in post F - ist countries. Yet let’s insist there is something else going on.

[@hatchhermit77]

If you're expecting women to fix something, then you'll be waiting a long time my friend. If you expect women to fix this societal issue, then we'll all be long gone before it happens.

[@jefferytokarsky1930]

@@hatchhermit77 Yeah, it’ll happen the same time Congress passes a law term limiting themselves.

[@hatchhermit77]

@@jefferytokarsky1930 Lol, we can dream the impossible.

[@c7042]

My ex-wife was conservative until 2016 then seemed to become radically left because the then President scared her. And she's seems to be still scared of the man.

[@hiteck007]

What a Weak woman, best to get rid of her, she ain't who you thought she was

[@theguybehindyou4762]

I seen several conservative Christian women turn into different people around that time. Women today appear to be demon possessed.

[@mediocreman2]

Guessing she was on social media a lot. It's like their addiction.

[@logicaltoafault6310]

What is the alternative? Men who aren't getting what they want from relationships focus on something else. Spend their lives in service of their goals and dreams. Make marriage harder to get for women so those that get it value it more and think twice before leaving. This is a win for everyone. Married men can feel more secure in their relationships. Married women are assured their husband is the best they can do. Single men have peace and quiet and get to keep their resources. Lastly single women, they're the happiest demographic so wins all round!

[@joshuadalton6063]

Yes this! Well except single women, they are the least happy demographic, but I assume you were being sarcastic there :D