They RUINED Sonic Mania

[@ThatRetroGuy2005]

"Sonic 1 and 2 2013 work on older phones" No shit

[@SFproductions1]

😭😭😭😭😭😭 fair enough

[@BigOofs2213]

​@@SFproductions1 ZAMN bro got cooked

[@ToxicRetro]

​@@BigOofs2213 AND took it to go!

[@MegafanX123]

​@@BigOofs2213 Your pfp made your comment even better

[@bbguy2245]

Fr 😅​@@MegafanX123

[@fryguy9704]

Netflix ruining something, *NAH* they would never do this.

[@ayouxy]

Enter Jojo part 6

[@Ss-rx9bx]

​@@ayouxywow... true..

[@ayouxy]

@@Ss-rx9bx the whole appeal of Jojo was that every episode gives us memes to chew on that week...a batch of half of the series give us too much and we have to wait for too long, so we're both overwhelmed to meme about and underwhelmed that we have to wait half a year or so

[@SH141alt]

they did it with bloons 🤯🤯🤯

[@arjunmenon1796]

Don't blame it all on Netflix. Sega has a terrible track record of porting Sonic games. They've rarely ever had a good port. Both Netflix and Sega suck

[@0Yours_Truly0]

So Sega fucked up a port of a game...what's new about it

[@Codyslx]

The port is fine. I hit constant 60fps. Only issue is that it's not wide screen. Other than that, it's the standard version of mania.

[@DanialDEcool]

The port is fine because it’s a _port_

[@steveluvscows2490]

The problem isn't SEGA, it's the fact that it's a NETFLIX game. I'm not sure the port's been handled by Christian Whitehead as was the case with Sonic 1/2 & Sonic CD, either.

[@shreymi]

If it was Christian Whitehead it'd have been amazing ​@@steveluvscows2490

[@DanialDEcool]

@@steveluvscows2490 dude, those games weren’t ports. they were almost completely remade to fit on a mobile device. that’s why origins is so buggy because the game wasn’t supposed to be played on a console

[@eyadhani21]

The fact that this game runs worse natively than with a switch emulator is truly sad i stole my friend's account for nothing😒

[@pacomatic9833]

t h a t ' s c r a z y .

[@GANONdork123]

Hell there's a homebrew port to the Wii, a console that was underpowered back when it came out in 2006, that runs perfectly outside of the special stages (which only lag because its using software rendering and not taking advantage of hardware acceleration)

[@k90v85]

​@@GANONdork123on vita too (although more powerful than wii i think)

[@tazqball1605]

We got a sonic mania port, before a Sonic 3 & Knuckles port on moblie devices. Why?!!!!!!!!!

[@SquidbeakCaptain]

Legal issues, but there's a port of an unofficial Sonic 3 & Knuckles remaster titled Sonic 3: Angel Island Revisited, or Sonic 3 A.I.R. for short.

[@KperaOfficial]

@@SquidbeakCaptain honestly they have no reason to port the 3k remaster from origins now

[@insertusernameyt]

Christian canceled sonic 3 and knuckles port because it's too hard or smth

[@CassiusStelar]

​@@insertusernameytit was near fully completed, Sega just wouldnt let him release it. Iirc S3K was the initial pitch he sent them but they said "nah, we need to rerelease CD, we never did that before, can you do that?"

[@DragonAero]

@@CassiusStelar It wasn't "near fully completed," afaik he only remade Angel Island Zone & the Special Stages as a proof of concept. It never got further than that because SEGA didn't greenlight it, probably thanks to the Micheal Jackson tracks. Also the proof-of-concept video was released in 2014, three years after the Sonic CD remake was released.

[@stevenshockley4237]

Sega messing up a port, a normal day indeed.

[@SonicTheBlueBlur15]

That’s probably cause this one was, just like colors ultimate, made by some random company, like why didnt they get christian whitehead who not only made the sonic mobile remasters, but also worked on MANIA, like why didnt let him cook and make the best mobile port? Just why….

[@talis._]

infact they ruined Sonic 1 & 2 Ports too, you always start with 1 life. my explanation is because people used that 3 given lives to restart special stages easily, and i guess sega wasn't happy with it

[@tylerloan6604]

​@Smartperson2574 point is though Sega said this was fine for release so they still have a part in this, especially when Christian whitehead made mobile ports and they're perfect. They wanted to make more money off a subscription service deal which is mega lame

[@RedTygon]

Because he had a fall out with Sega and moved on to make his own game studio.

[@tylerloan6604]

@@RedTygon ahhh shit that makes sense especially since penny's big breakaway came out not too long ago

[@captainseg]

I honestly find the mobile version useless. Especially since I have the Switch version. Kinda makes it rather pointless for me

[@MrRuePine]

*I* can't afford a Switch though. A lot of other people can't as well. Let alone the game. Especially with how overpriced most Switch games of are these days. EDIT: Well, at least where I live, for example. 50 R$ to 200 R$ for Mania plus 2000 R$ for the Switch before that.

[@buno7089]

Not to mention the other way to play sonic mania on mobile so basically the Netflix way is pointless

[@devalynbrooks9566]

Can I just say I love your profile picture

[@buno7089]

@@devalynbrooks9566 whose picture

[@captainseg]

@MrRuePine you can get a Switch lite for 150$. Plus Sonic Mania is 20$. A regular Switch is 300$ compared to PS5 or Xbox which are both 500$. Honestly there's alot of cheaper options to get a Switch even today

[@theblueblur17]

Once again, the fans did a better job than sega. The decomp is _miles_ better than the official version, and isn’t locked to a subscription service. Not to mention, the decomp version can even run mods! I’m just sad cause this is definitely gonna injure Sonic Mania’s reputation as a near perfect Sonic game. 4:00 💀

[@waff64]

because the decomp is sonic mania

[@buno7089]

Sega has not had a good record of mobile ports like the one for crazy taxi. It’s always the original titles for mobile games that do great such as sonic dream team

[@walucidamn]

​@@waff64the netflix version is also sonic mania lol

[@waff64]

@@walucidamn no im saying that the decomp has absolutely nothing changed

[@ahmedhasan4966]

​@@waff64The decomp version of sonic mania supports mods!

[@ironicallyuncreative]

8 year old me finally gets what he wanted after waiting for YEARS and it's tied to Netflix of all things 😒

[@quintillionlmao]

My mom already had a netflix account, so it was fairly easy. So why are you complaining ?

[@ironicallyuncreative]

​ @agamingchannelolXD1283 Way to miss the point! Being tied to a subscription is horrendous. They already tried that with Dream Team and look how that turned out. Not everyone can use or pay for Netflix. Not to mention that Netflix keeps raising the prices of its services, but that's a whole different topic on its own. Normally it wouldn't be AS bad until you realize that you paid almost the same amount as the game's price on Steam, (20 dollars. Rounded up. Not including tax.) for an inferior, unoptimized, scummy port! Mania should not be having FPS drops on modern-day devices. My old crappy potato PC can run Mania at a consistent 60 FPS, so what gives? Typical SEGA, they hate making money via quality. They could've easily just ported Mania on the Google Play Store without the Netflix thing for like 6-10 dollars or something using the same framework as the mobile ports of 1, 2, and CD, but that would make too much sense, so they decided to fuck up another port because that seems to be the one thing they're consistent at.

[@Josuh]

@@quintillionlmaoWhat? You talk like you were siblings or some shit lmao give us your mom's account then

[@timbo303official9]

​​@@quintillionlmaopassword sharing restriction bs or are you forgetting

[@ironicallyuncreative]

​@@quintillionlmao way to miss the point being tied to a subscription is horrendous they already tried that with Dream Team and look how that turned out not everyone can use or pay for Netflix not to mention that Netflix keeps raising the prices of their services, but that's a whole different topic Normally it wouldn't be AS bad until you realize that you paid almost the same amount as the game's price on Steam, (20 dollars. Rounded up. Not including tax.) for an inferior, unoptimized, scummy port! Mania should not be having FPS drops on modern-day devices. My old crappy potato PC can run Mania at a consistent 60 FPS, so what gives? Typical SEGA, they hate making money. They could've easily just ported Mania on the Google Play Store without the Netflix thing for like 6-10 dollars or something

[@socheata643]

The decomp is well made, no offense to the Netflix port.

[@Gnidel]

And it supports mods.

[@socheata643]

@@Gnidel Facts!

[@KperaOfficial]

@@Gnidel the decomp doesn't run on specific phones so for some people (including me) are forced to play the netflix version

[@SailsPlays]

Decomp is shite. So laggy.

[@ibis03]

​@@SailsPlaysit's likely the problem with your phone than with the decomp itself

[@SurfRay]

it was so weird to me when I just randomly found out that mania was on mobile devices. I was so confused but decided to just try it out to see what it's like. It for some reason doesn't scale properly on my phone despite the fact that my phone is modern. I'm on a Samsung Note 20, so I do not see why it even has that issue.

[@adamnader6014]

I feel for u mate. I haven’t played the game yet so I can’t give my thoughts but I am expecting some decent things so far

[@RainbowSonicDash28]

Not to mention that there are also some audio issues at times that I experienced for some reason.

[@creepypumpkin711]

I kinda like the port, sadly though Netflix is the one who ported it and not Sonic Team. Also, no mod support :(

[@Iambobbo]

No dip, its netflix and how would you get the mods in the first place?

[@finngomezgamer]

Sonic team didn’t even make mania lmao, that was Christian whitehead and headcannon

[@agentomecha634]

Oh yeah. I completely forgot about Sonic Mania getting a mobile port. I’m gonna be honest, as well made and polished of a game Mania is, I… haven’t played it since the Plus update released a few years back. I guess I never really had much of an incentive to go back and play it after initially beating the game. Regardless, it’s a shame to see the mobile port of this game is poorly implemented and optimized for iOS and Android devices.

[@phootaphan9166]

Especially considering the game was literally built on the same engine that was used for the mobile versions of the other classic games. A mobile version should have been an easy win. Instead, we get a sub-par port that requires a subscription to play. The gaming industry keeps finding new ways to take what should be an exciting announcement and make it depressing.

[@CharlesTube4D]

Listen, I just finished playing the main mode on there. Even though there are many issues (Sound Effects, Some Lag, Weird Hub) it’s still a good version for people that don’t have NS, PS or XBOX. Still the weakest version of the game, but would still try it if my Switch Broke. But I want to say one last thing, I honestly think that Netflix is behind most of the port, so Don’t Blame Sonic Team. I Still have Hope that the Generations Reboot will be Good, but definitely don’t want something like this. Good Vid tho!😊

[@SFproductions1]

Thank you!

[@jeevannair393]

Man I played sonic mania on my old pixel 3a on a SWITCH EMULATOR that hit a locked 60 fps. If a native port isnt as optimized as an emulator that's just dumb

[@DanialDEcool]

It’s not a mobile game. They can’t make it fully optimised

[@jeevannair393]

@@DanialDEcool ??? tf are you talking about? Yes, mania wasn't originally a mobile game, but they ported it to mobile meaning the code is running on native hardware, not through a translation layer like emulators are. Sonic 1, 2, and CD aren't mobile games either, and they play perfectly fine if we go by your logic

[@fandememes12]

the fact that playing sonic mania on a switch emulator runs better than that shit port says something

[@avisprimey]

@@DanialDEcool If you have the source code, you can recompile it for any platform you care to. Easier said than done, but an optimized native port is possible. Heck, there's already a decompilation project online where you can get the source code and build it yourself, and besides the 3D sections, there's even a fullspeed build for a mf Wii!

[@t-yl9eb]

@@avisprimeyTechnically not fullspeed since there are slowdowns in the UFO chase parts but otherwise it runs perfectly fine even on a Wii

[@Red_Biker_Dude]

4:52 literally as you said the word "links" a notification of a new terminal montage video about tloz appeared on my screen which is so hilarious

[@SPIDERKN1GHT0327]

Well I never experienced these errors, but the menu is kinda wack

[@DanialDEcool]

It’s because they’re complaining about weaker devices. This game isn’t even supposed to be used on a phone. Origins literally had the same issue. Most of his points is “they did it before” when they had to rebuild the game. They weren’t gonna rebuild sonic mania for mobile once again. The original 2013 versions also failed on perfect inputs. They really think that they’re gonna force netflix to rebuild a game. What a world.

[@gracefullhawkeye8353]

Sucks to see that we need a Netflix subscription just to play Mania. I have one so it’s not a problem for me, but for those who don’t have it, I’m sorry.

[@DanialDEcool]

it’s not that inconvenient. they could just buy the game for a little more permanently.

[@RefreshingMirage]

How did they fuck up a mobile port of MANIA?! Of all games?! I was considering playing this just for the hell of it, but now, Mania mobile can get fucked

[@teknixstuff]

There's an unofficial mobile port of it based on the RSDK5 decompilation that was released ages ago, and it's almost perfect.

[@davebob4973]

Ok jeez its not that bad

[@goldenninja9053]

​@@davebob4973Agreed. I tried it out yesterday, and it ran just fine, so the complainers make no sense as usual.

[@Stripes404]

And the decompilation for mobile is so damn good it's not even close.

[@maryanneuduak7078]

​@goldenninja9053 so everyone else having problems for something they paid is a problem you sound like a smart guy

[@TH99900]

Oh Boy! Last time I checked your channel, you had 1k or 2k subs, now you have 24k subs, awesome !

[@KHPKero]

ive commented that on your post because it's really absurd how the game runs very well on a switch emulator and unofficially on a ps3 but can't run on my fricking phone of all things a Mi 10 with similar power to s20 shouldn't lag on this thanks for covering this and i hope more and more people cover this so the issues are recognized by whoever ported the game

[@Kingmationproductionz]

I’m gonna be honest this just seems like sonic fans yelling at the sky as usual. It’s a fine way to play mania, especially for people who conveniently have a Netflix account who don’t want to pay for the game by itself.

[@kawthar-wn9mu]

💯

[@Newbie_hiblitz]

Same opinion here

[@sonomni]

Yeah like it’s not like you’re paying for an extra subscription or anything

[@ToyBoxxyt]

I agree. This video is BS.

[@polocatfan]

nobody is buying Netflix just for mania dude. ​@@sonomni

[@jevantebrockman2617]

It’s kinda poetic. Christian Whitehead got his start by making an impressive port of older Sonic games to mobile. Now they took his work on an original game for consoles and made a bad port of it back to mobile.

[@speedoreo1462]

funnily enough my touch control just don't even show up HOW DID THEY MESS THAT UP????

[@DilHark]

Same lol. I had to download a virtual gamepad app to play the game

[@Codyslx]

Maybe your phone is too old

[@borizon1]

for the weird pixel filter, that disappears if you set the filter in the video config from none to sharp (on my phone it worked atleast).

[@hotcocoabomb_]

If I had a nickel for every time Sega decided to put weird pixel filtering on a classic sonic port, id have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

[@Youarewhatyoueatsonic]

Technically like 5 times if you count every game in origins individually

[@borizon1]

you could just set the filter to sharp though

[@pj1343]

even with a netflix account, i somehow still feel robbed of accessibility to this game.

[@knowingjordankid]

Sonic Mania port should’ve never happened like at all. I just don’t understand why did Netflix decided to port Sonic mania? Great video SF!

[@30THMAN.]

You prefer not having a mobile port than having one?

[@LorileeDayrit]

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[@LorileeDayrit]

Thanks For The Heart Man I Appreciate The Work Keep It Up

[@caseykm1405]

Bro the app crashed before i could even finish act 1 of Green Hill Zone. IM ON AN IPHONE 11

[@SFproductions1]

Oh no

[@Teoshell-ls4mv]

For me is just laging but If i move in control joystikeis not laging

[@Pancakes_strawberry_stars]

I’m on a iPhone 10 and I can get to mirage saloon fine

[@caseykm1405]

@Funnierthanu69 ahh man 😔

[@caseykm1405]

@@Pancakes_strawberry_stars might be my phone then

[@Locityy]

Yeah, I understand why they release games under subscriptions but I don’t think it’s fair for those who don’t have subscriptions or can’t afford them. You can’t play sonic mania or dream team simply because you don’t have a Netflix account? Thats a little ridiculous imo. Great video man keep it up! Also thanks for coming out to my Sonic Heroes stream! That game is abysmal lmao

[@TH-rx1kt]

2:23 Yeah this is a big issue, a PS3 could literally play this game

[@melo-7904]

a ps-vita can also run it

[@avisprimey]

A Wii can manage the 2D sections

[@DanialDEcool]

Yeah, it can run an optimised version. this is just a touch support port. It does nothing on top. that’s why audio and gameplay can lag.

[@androidmega3335]

Is a better option for people who just already pay for Netflix, and the switch is a hybrid I know, but you can connect phones to monitors and tvs too, I think is a great alternative

[@legoawcstopmotioner9435]

The game doesn't even start on my phone. And I got my phone in 2022. I can't imagine a compatibility issue with such a recent one. It's not that big of a deal. I can still play the game on PC and a Steam Deck when I get around to getting one of those. But it's still disappointing. Sega keeps astounding me with their level of stupidity.

[@Codyslx]

List the name of the phone and you android version.

[@legoawcstopmotioner9435]

@@Codyslx Moto g pure, android version 12.

[@Ireallydontknow-y1r]

I’m just grateful that they put it on mobile

[@Skoufidios]

This game absolutely SLUGS on mobile! For some reason, for me it ran at a constant 15-20fps! The only exception being when I touched the screen itself instead of the touch controls, at which point the game snaps back at 60fps!

[@Codyslx]

It means your phone is either old or not comparable. I hit constant 60fps. What's your android version?

[@Skoufidios]

@@Codyslx Not that I don't want to answer, but that question kinda sounds like a scam to me. I feel like I'm about to get hacked.

[@PokeyFN]

Over an an​droid version?@@Skoufidios

[@Joewindows104]

Fun fact some people ported sonic mania to the dreamcast running at 60fps

[@RedMarcus14]

Its actually a good port

[@clkgtr1998]

Yeah , like wtf people was expecting from a Port that no one even knew it exited It's the same game 1:1 Nothing more , nothing Less, then what you want?

[@dabolder]

Play the rsdk version then you'll notice what you're missing out on

[@victory4me1]

​@clkgtr1998 Alright. I'm just gonna say it, it's already bad sign Sensitivity settings or no Custom button layout

[@JelloJio]

Yeah!

[@TuxerTuxar]

Tbh all I need is a way to customise the touch screen buttons and a good menu

[@Toast_2011]

I can't lie but i like the mobile version there's just some problems: 1:The controls are not like the STH 1 and 2 remake,so it's hard to control since some people has huge hands 2:Would be pretty cool to play Versus online or local. 3:if you close the game in a special stage when you're losing,you can re-do it,but you need to start the act(or 2 acts) All over (Can't lie this is helpful)

[@TermiHorsecity]

Sonic Mania: Cuties!

[@richieosborn2639]

Robotnik shaking dat on the floor!

[@TermiHorsecity]

@@richieosborn2639 Robotnik is thicker than a goddamn tar pit

[@jruler93]

I find it hilarious that the Android version has such performance issues when the Switch version doesn't, even though the Switch is kind of an Android tablet reworked into a handheld.

[@Canetaincrivel]

my game is bugged and the controls just dont appear, so i cant move the character

[@Veny·vydy·vycy]

Eu estou com o mesmo problema dos controles 🤷‍♂️

[@KirbalVerbalEditz]

the Netflix membership stuff also happened to TMNT shredder's revenge which sucks because its an extremely good game

[@KirbalVerbalEditz]

Bro somebody fucking reviewed the game and said "gegagegado" and Netflix fuckin responded ☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@DragonAero]

@@KirbalVerbalEditz i'm trying to find the review lol (i have too much free time) edit: nvm I found it lol. it's a google play tablet review. can't believe you misquoted it; it was actually "Gegadigageoh"

[@Josuh]

fairly sure it's also on ios with apple arcade

[@SupaSab10]

I just feel that since I have Sonic Mania on my Switch, now its on mobile, it feels so pointless, and I just feel putting a huge game like Sonic Mania PLUS, to mobile. It is such a great experience playing on console, and now that its on mobile, its not as great anymore...

[@GrilledChesseGamer]

I find funny that sonic 1,2 CD mobile ports are better than this

[@rafaelpereiragomes1735]

Well, Sonic Mania is a bigger game.

[@NaveKnights]

Look guys, lets take a win when we can get one. As someone who doesnt have Sonic Mania and has a Netflix Subscription, I take this as a win, my only issue with the port is just the controls *and thats it.* I didnt even have any problems with glitches or anything. Its still the same old Sonic Mania with bad controls, i'd take these controls over Sonic R's controls any day.

[@OfficialFernandoGonzalezLEGO]

2:30 HOLY S**T I have the same phone as you

[@SFproductions1]

WW

[@JelloJio]

Wdym, I'm playing this game rn

[@Funni_youtube]

Only real people watch netflix on wii of course 🗿

[@Funni_youtube]

@Smartperson2574 Riiconect 24 if you mod it

[@Dog-Muffin]

I got sonic 2 to run on a 12 year old phone running Android 4, and it didn't struggle a bit, it's embarrassing how badly Sega messed up this port considering the amount of slowdown it has.

[@fonsales5373]

Wait so you're telling me there's a fan-port for it? And i don't have to install the game from Google play?

[@Chenchulli]

i just want to know why the controllers for this game is so SMALL

[@Ziyaad073]

I cant even get the touch controls to work

[@yosh9192]

The terrible optimization among other issues gives me the impression that either they did the porting process in-house without the help/consulting of the Mania team, or it was an extreme rushjob. Maybe both. Guess we’ll just have to see if any light gets shed on the development of this port in the future.

[@SonicRobloxDegenerates]

Hey guys I am gonna review this guys rants and complaints. Netflix Subscription - We were literally told about this months ago 💀 Not avaible for android devices - They are probably still working on it 💀 Not 60 FPS - Are you allergic to showers? Bad UI - Ok? It's a mobile port 💀there offering you Mania for less than 20$ what'd you expect?! Bad Touch Screen Design - So, first off you can still play the game, second off, when your playing the games your not even focused on the controls, third off, JUST USE A CONTROLLER. They RUINED Sonic Mania - This has no impact on Sonic Mania in general, this is just the mobile port. In Summary: 0/10 Nothing he says about or complains is even valid. With the minor complaints and clickbait Title, it's just for the sake of Profit.

[@MarC0S_da_BiO]

the controls just don't appear to me. Unfortunately, I don't have a Bluetooth controller to connect. 😢

[@SonicRobloxDegenerates]

@@MarC0S_da_BiO Playstation, Xbox, or some Swithc controllers work. But I'm sure they'll fix it.

[@SonicRobloxDegenerates]

@@MarC0S_da_BiO well now every youtuber is trying to farm the Mania "drama" for cash. We have never had a single Sonic thing release without people complaining about it,

[@MarC0S_da_BiO]

​@@SonicRobloxDegenerates unfortunate. My only problem is just the touch controls that don't appear. Detail, my device model is the MOTO G23

[@SonicRobloxDegenerates]

@@MarC0S_da_BiO I'm Sorry :(

[@QuaterX3]

The even worse thing is that the arrows on the select screen arent even aligned

[@dablackartist]

Is it controller supported? I think every Mobile sonic game before this is

[@SFproductions1]

yes

[@shelvypigplayer1539]

I played the mobile decomp port and it worked nicely, smooth 60fps except for special stage, which fair, but the netflix version crashes on the sega jingle for me The mobile port team really needed to optimize it more. Decomp solos

[@adrenaliner91]

Why should you even consider playing on a phone? I still don't get that. But yeah big companies sh*tting on consumers is nothing new.

[@SFproductions1]

Well like I said in the video I was bored in class one day and only had my phone on me so I played the game

[@adrenaliner91]

@@SFproductions1 so, next time better a GBA and Sonic Advance? xD

[@thedarknessinthelight9824]

Games like Grand Summoners, Dragon Ball Legends, Raid: Shadow Legends, Solo Leveling: Arise (coming soon), One Punch Man World, etc... There are lots of good mobile games out there.

[@adrenaliner91]

@@thedarknessinthelight9824 Even as a diehard Dragonball fan since 1999 I wouldn't even consider installing Legends, it looks like a mobile crap game like all the others and has probably gacha and pay and wait nagging elements like all the others. I would rather play even DBGT Final Bout on PS1 or Legacy of Goku 1 or something. I don't know a single mobile game that is good. Maybe emulators. But that's always better with a controller. Gaming is always better on anything other than a phone, even though you can connect a controller.

[@thedarknessinthelight9824]

@@adrenaliner91 It has gacha elements, but it's not Pay-To-Win nor do they have ads every 10 seconds and the art is actually relatively good when given the chance. It's a game I'd rather play over all of the games of the PS1 AND 2 era, excluding PSP and Gamecube though...

[@ultimatesmash5er666]

Honestly I felt that the controls for playing through zones weren't that bad and I kinda like the vibe that the menu gives (though I agree that it should be touched up), but it was horrible for the bonus stages. The special stages were also really difficult with these controls too, but it is a mobile game so understandably it would be a bit difficult to work with, I'm hoping that I can try this with one of those bluetooth controllers that hold your phone while you play to see if that gives me a better experience since it seems that this was made with the intent of using one.

[@BluLobstaDude]

Over dramatic much? What do you expect from a mobile game

[@ahmedhasan4966]

This isn't a mobile game it's a console/PC game ported to mobile.

[@BluLobstaDude]

@@ahmedhasan4966 porting a game to mobile won’t give you 60 fps with the smoothest controls ever buddy

[@ahmedhasan4966]

@omnipotentowlproductions This game isn't even hardware demanding in the slightest.

[@nitrodeiscool]

You sir are the reason people get bad ports like this, for one of if not the highest rated sonic games of recent times, a simple port shouldn’t be as bad as this.

[@thepapnmapn6733]

@@BluLobstaDudeIt uses the same engine as the other classic sonic games on mobile, so it should have been way better

[@Merino33]

I played it a bunch up to stardust speedway on a long car ride today. I honestly saw little problems and found it easy to control despite being on mobile.

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

I was gonna get Netflix just for this, but I have sonic mania already, and I trust you

[@MegaManNeo]

I need to check on that decomp again. I remember I tried to run early releases but even my S20 wouldn't display anything but a black screen. As it is now, the official released for Mania is messed up on phones unless you really use Netflix a lot and you have a gamepad.

[@minionmadness9202]

I played the game. I had an amazing time. I played it as sonc and tails. Then I played as knuckles. I'm currently working on beating encore mode. Aside for the aspect ratio it's fine.

[@Golden.Freddy1983]

You can say that it’s bad but i think it was a good thing that they did this becouse i always wanted to play mania but i couldn’t becouse of some reasons but now i get the chance to play it aswell as some other people and i love it

[@bottomtext593]

Sega's most likely falling into the trap of several shareholders and other companies trying to want in on their IPs and while there are some legendary companies like Paramount, theres some bad apples like Netflix which just make everything worse for everyone solely to promote their brand.

[@skip-4259]

My version (iPhone) couldn’t even play sound How do you mess up the trademark redeeming quality of your mascot

[@Newbie_hiblitz]

Theres a little button on the side of your iphone that turns sound (i think its called the ringer?) on and off, thats probably why it doesnt have sound at all, i have a iphone and after clicking that button all the sound comes back I get its inconvenient and all but unironically alot of ios games to this

[@kylefusions9]

Seeing the mobile port for sonic mania plus being a kind of terrible port (at least for me.) is just sad. The main menu looks so weird. The decomp is WAAAY more better. The hidden level select looks SO BAD!! I hate it! If Taxman could make the hidden level select return in the sonic 1, 2 and CD remake then how come they couldn't make it like that in sonic mania plus?!! And its official too! Ridiculous. They didn't even bother changing the super transformation button and the switch characters button, they straight up ripped it from the monitors, which is supposed to look small, not big! The debug mode buttons (im talking abt the 1 and 2 icons) look so bad because of the Bilinear thing, they should've upscaled it

[@Sajo315]

Mania on netflix is not so bad BUT WHERES SONIC 3 & KNUCKLES PORT?

[@Jac-Man]

That’s weird, im playing the game on my iphone 14 and i don’t have the touchstick, instead i have a D-pad that’s a lot closer to the other mobile Sonic ports and works a treat. (And for the record - i’m not playing the decomp, im playing the netflix version) I also haven’t been experiencing any frame drops or input lag, everything’s been stable and responsive. Really, the only issue I’m having is crackly audio, that’s it. I know I can’t speak for anyone other than myself, but I’ve been having a lot of fun with this version of the game and I’m plenty satisfied. Sorry for those who were left disappointed by it, though.

[@oltenutu]

i just installed the game on the phone. I LITTERALLY HAVE THE SAME EXCAT PFP! (for a second i thought you logged in on my account)

[@SFproductions1]

LOL

[@BombasticTom492]

This leads me to believe that Stealth and Christian Whitehead are the only 2 people on Earth who know how to use Retro Engine

[@melo-7904]

and the sonic 1 forever/ sonic 2 absolute team

[@DanialDEcool]

dude. this is not a new game. this is a console game with touch controls. they didn’t use the retro engine.

[@melo-7904]

@@DanialDEcool the retro engine was used for the remasters of sonic 1,2 and CD long before they were used for mania

[@TonyAnthony-ef1ux]

Also, just wondering. What app store is Mania on? Just wanna try it out.

[@gmoneythestickman]

apple appstore, google play store

[@M64bros]

I don't like how the jump button and the thumb stick look in the Netflix version of this game.

[@thelettere7457]

Ive been playing the game and the audio seems to be really choppy ( idk if thats the right word ).

[@SebasTorron]

Fun, a better PS Vita port incoming

[@SaddieMoon]

I never had any issues playing this version. Aside from the title screen and menu music being a little juddery.

[@FrenzyStudiosYT]

Tbh I don’t actually think this port is bad audio is fine no glitches and the special stages and controls are alright it’s good for people who cant afford consoles

[@Firey_Proof]

Tbh i think people are overreacting because of a joystick. Its still way for people that have Netflix but dont own the original game to play it. I didn't experience frame drops, at least yet

[@Kimarnic]

So basically ruined is just "oh no touch screen controls" Just use a Bluetooth controller. Sonic fans are the worst.

[@SFproductions1]

"just do this" "just do that" Y'all really be excusing anything smh

[@just_an_internet_explorer8038]

Kind of. I haven’t faced any problems with the port so far, but at the very least, they should’ve included the option to switch your controls to the older one

[@andresbravo2003]

Only on Netflix? I’m a Netflix subscriber because Sonic Mania is the only Official Mobile Port that is exclusively on Netflix for iOS.

[@knucklesthegamer56]

*RSDK has left the chat.*

[@GlitchOnePlus]

Fools they forgot that Nintendo and their big brain thinking have already made a handheld/home console that has been out for years now and already has a better and more optimized version of a game that has been out since 2017 💀

[@THEREALDRYBONES64]

For me, I was sceptical about a game like sonic mania to be ported but, I just use an Xbox controller to fix the controls. I think it's fine but it's better on console.

[@Arian5232]

For me the touch controls don't even show up on screen, that's how you know it's bad

[@lizzielizardboy96]

Thx for telling me that it includes subscription I was about to buy it but I watch your videos first and you saved me from wasting my time I really wanted to play sonic mania but I can’t afford Nintendo switch since my folks needs get money to pay our house bills and mortgage

[@kaizerwongofficial]

When I heard that Sonic Mania was getting a mobile port, I was super happy. But when I found out that I needed a Netflix account to ACTUALLY PLAY IT, I was immediately turned off. Like bro I don't have my own Netflix account ffs. Luckily I still have my PS4 copy so I'll just stick with that

[@dacockroach]

I'm not complaining, at least you can play what matters, and I didn't see any of these defects

[@JCSA79V]

I wrote a comment about having deja vu because I remember hearing about this Netflix version last year and it having issues. Then it got to the part about it launching last year in certain regions. Now it all makes sense. It's a shame they didn't address these problems during that year.

[@ObliSubX]

I am a reasonable android fan boy. I played a lot of android games during my lifetime. and I can assure you that this port, from a technical point of view, sucks hard. The problem it has shouldn't even exist. I've never seen a android game have a UI tjis bad (along with the other terrible issues). Does that automatically make the game bad? No. Does it make me not recommend playing this specific port? Yes,

[@KymanitheCaracal]

I find it very problematic that Sonic Mania is only available through Netflix. Sonic 1, 2, CD, and 4 were all from Sega themselves. I got the game a week vefore released here via a 3rd Party. Collecting the chaos emeralds can be challenging with this. I got lucky last night collecting the second one on the (5) Train ride home due to a delay. If that train was running regularly, then I would have never grabbed it in time.

[@Mecha-tel]

Honestly, I liked the Netflix version

[@Michaelexi3]

They fucked up the thumb stick and jump button 💀😭 Same with their style

[@DanialDEcool]

Use a Bluetooth controller or a Bluetooth keyboard. It’s supported.

[@JakeCrossworth]

Not to mention the audio. Lots of choppy music in addition to sfx being reduced. Some sfx just don't play consistently either, collecting large amounts of blue spheres in the ufo sections doesn't work right, and the same goes with rings. It's like they limited how many sounds can be played

[@DanialDEcool]

It’s because the sounds were mixed for more complex audio devices.

[@MrR-d1v]

"This could have been a slam dunk if the controls were good and this wasn't a Netflix exclusive"

[@MrR-d1v]

"Also Who is buying a Netflix subscription just so they can play Sonic Mania on their mobile devices" you can buy the game for $20 God dammit

[@thelonleygengar]

You also can't use cheat codes, so kids who can't get everything they want unless they get good, which could be the reason alot of kids quit

[@30THMAN.]

Let's be real, that's probably the funniest thing i heard all day 1:16

[@miraclewillow1]

not to mention someone ported Mania to the fucking DREAMCAST too, older smartphones can absolutely run this game