They Said They Couldn't Do It... Were they right?

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Super 7 Ultimates Silverhawks Action Figure Review | Pixel Dan
Welcome back to the channel, toy enthusiasts! In today's exciting review, Pixel Dan takes an in-depth look at the highly anticipated Super 7 Ultimates Silverhawks action figure line. These figures have caused quite a stir in the collector community, especially with their vac metal finish that harkens back to the original Kenner Silverhawks figures. But there's a twist! Super 7 previously stated that they couldn't use vac metal on these figures. So, what changed?
Join Pixel Dan as he unboxes these stunning figures, giving you a close-up view of the intricate details and the shiny vac metal that fans have been eagerly waiting for. But not everything is as perfect as it seems. During the review, Dan encounters an issue that could be a deal-breaker for some collectors: the vac metal starts to flake off. How does this affect the overall quality and durability of the figures? Is the nostalgic appeal worth the potential wear and tear?
In this detailed review, Pixel Dan covers:
The packaging and presentation of the Super 7 Ultimates Silverhawks.
A comparison with the original Kenner Silverhawks figures.
An honest assessment of the vac metal finish and its pros and cons.
Articulation, accessories, and overall playability.
Final thoughts on whether these figures are worth adding to your collection.
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[@Pixel-dan]

Were they right about vac metal?

[@ZedMazaus480]

Uh oh! Sounds like they didn't do proper vac metal clear sealent coating on them. Even this early joint flaking wear is a extremely bad sign. Anyone remember the transformers beast wars transmetal rat trap? That thing started flaking as soon as you took it out of the package when it was released back in the day. That's what happens when you skip seal coating vac metal.And I hate to say it, but high articulation flaking wear excuse is total bull muffins. Look at the vintage figures arm sockets. every part of those arms are vac metal. Including the peg /male conector that the arm swings on. I beat the heck out of those figure, and swung the arms and legs religiously. And you know what? those socket joints were the most prestine part of the vac metal on all those figures to this very day. Those weren any less friction stressed than a ball joint or modern hinge. Modern plastics not taking the vac metal process I could believe, but joint friction being the bigger issue? No. The actual reason companies stopped doing the vac metal process is because it was litterally poisoning the factory workers. So in actuality for Super7 to do vac metalling again they either need to throw ethics and factory workers health to the wind. Or go back to reinvent the wheel on vac metalling to make it safer. Which one do you think would have them not admit those problems or changes in the process? The answer to that is probably worse than consumers would want to believe....

[@mksolid82]

I think a very metallic paint (like Neca uses sometimes) would have been fine. Bizarre how they couldn’t find middle ground.

[@Futuredynamo]

I guess the positive side is that this is good news for my wallet. I've been cutting back on collectibles in general, and I never did buy the previous versions from S7. I was kind of tempted by these. I definitely prefer the look of Monstar and Buzz-Saw in their toy colors. As a kid, I had the main 5 Silverhawks, Commander, Stargazer, Flashback... and on the villains side I only had Monstar and Buzz-Saw, so those two villain figures in those colors are very nostalgic for me. The vac metal S7 figures look cool, but I've been worried what that would mean from a QC perspective, and based on this video, it is not good. Also I had noticed in pic that Quicksilver seemed a little too dark in color, and this video confirms that. While I am otherwise nostalgic for the vac metal look, and while it is annoying that these came out after Brian said they couldn't be done.... what REALLY bothers me is that we never got the versions that were promised early on. In some interview with Brian (it may have been that same one you had with him when he said vac metal couldn't be done), he had said that they were going to try to get find paint that would be as shiny in color as possible, but without doing a vac metal/chromed look. I was interested in seeing how that would turn out, at it seemed like a reasonable compromise. But instead, they released them in these dull, not at all shiny, supposedly "cartoon accurate" colors, which didn't do much for me, so with that coinciding with when I was starting to cut back on collectibles anyway, I opted to not bother with them. Then they announced these toy variants with the Vac Metal. I was potentially interested, but annoyed on behalf of those who already bought the previous versions (and REALLY glad that I hadn't bought them), but also concerned based on what Brian said when you interviewed him when they were first shown. He made it sound like there would be plenty of replacements available, etc., basically anticipating there being a lot of problems with these. That didn't give me much hope. And it was still contrary to what fans had been told, even if somehow they would have come out without any major issues. But as seen in your video here, there ARE some glaring issues. And given all that is now known, I would still prefer those theoretical versions with really shiny paint and no vac metal, but we will likely never get those. Heck, even if they were to try to release those, how many people would actually buy them? Anyone who bought the first versions thinking they'd be the only options, and then bought these only to have some major QC issues are NOT likely to give S7 their money again on more versions of these absurdly overpriced figures. On some level Monstar and Buzz-Saw are tempting to me, but if I'm not getting the main heroes, I don't have much interest in collecting just the villains. This whole thing is a mess.

[@wolfman210]

@@ZedMazaus480 As someone with several Soul of Chogokin figures it isn't "bull muffins" as you put it, Chrome on modern toys scruffs and flakes super easy.

[@vriderch1360]

@@ZedMazaus480 No, it has nothing to do with sealant coating. It's not worth it. This is a case of people just saying that they want a thing without knowing how it's actually done.

[@vriderch1360]

I feel like they did this just to say "I told you so."

[@pauld5185]

That first version of silver hawk should have been painted silver instead of that gray. If he was painted with a metallic silver I don’t think fans would have cried out for vac metal as much. I’m not a Silverhawks collector just an observer.

[@wolfman210]

Silver is just metallic gray. Just like gold is just metallic yellow.

[@itheuserfirst3186]

Nah, fans wanted the vac metal; just like the original figures.

[@jesusvillasenor355]

I’m seeing video reviews of the vac metal flaking/breaking apart easily right out of the box and that the articulation isn’t on point. Yet, S7 had no problem charging 65 or more for these two figs. Cmon, we as collectors need to hold S7 accountable for thier bad QC if they’re gonna want that much money for these.

[@Redeemer23collectibles]

Well this is what Super 7 warned all those that begged and pleaded for the chromed out versions of these specific figures so can we really blame Super 7 or do we take the blame ourselves for being nit picky on something that we actually wanted ???????? Now as far as the price point it's fine in my opinion reason being we are not living back in the 80's , 90's, or early 2000's. Action figures in general are done way better as far as articulation and accurate sculpts and paint apps to the characters, let's be honest they've come a long way from what we had back then Super 7 has done a great job thus far it's just you can't please every consumer everyone can be a critic but if you actually don't create, sculpt, or design figs you actually don't realize what's the process behind what the consumers want so it's a double edged sword. Overall they're great figs and pricing doesn't bother me, if you want a marvel legends price point then your going to get less for your figures it's the nature of the beast. I mean we go out to toy shops and purchase vintage figures and pay upwards of $80, $100, to $200 for a VINTAGE FIGURE that only has 5 POA he-man, G.I. JOES, Dungeons and Dragons etc, etc and we'll justify that but then complain with figures that have better articulation, sculpts, paint apps and accuracy of asking price of the same value or more for me it's a make it make sense. I collect, hottoys, three zero, sideshow, Super 7, mattel , storm Collectibles, the list goes on and on and it is what it is on pricing some companies charge less some more all depends on what you want Raman toys made a silverhawks quicksilver and for me doesn't look like the character at all it's their take on the character which is fine but did not move me to own or purchase but hey I know some friends of my did and that's ok . Overall great video and good topic to bring up on your thoughts on it and giving us an opportunity to comment about our thoughts on the figs .

[@yokaicustoms]

I could be misremembering but didn't Brian say at one point that they made some adjustments to the sculpt so that there was more clearance around the joints to help minimize rubbing? If so, that would explain the shoulder joints. Doesn't mean anyone has to like it, of course. I also recall Brian said that the production process meant that the arm and joints (for example) are made and then the vacmetal is applied to the entire arm+joint but the vacmetal can't really adhere to the joint plastic very well so chipping of the joints was basically guaranteed from the start (I realize you probably know all of this, just commenting on this for the community who might see my comment.)

[@ADAM_COLLECTS]

If Brian Flynn said it, it’s a lie, even if it comes true he lied and it was an accident

[@ConstantineCydonea]

brian is very good on lying!!! his excuses makes me laugh hard!!!

[@yauyuso]

THat's correct. because vac metal basically is dipping the entire piece to the paint so it adds thickness. So to counter it you will have to sand off the part to make it fit easier. I don't have a set of these vac metal silverhawks but I suspect in person, the parts will will less elastic that what you normally would get.

[@wolfman210]

@@ConstantineCydonea Chrome paint rubs and flakes on moving parts it isn't a lie.

[@michaelwarwick6412]

@@ConstantineCydoneaI don’t think that’s fair. Brian said they couldn’t do it at the time. They had to redesign the joints to fit together with the vac metal and took quite a bit of time to get it right. He also warned early on that flaking was going to possibly be an issue. That said, I have my chromed out Steelheart on my shelf in the pose I want her im and don’t plan on playing with her at all, so she looks great.

[@armoriya]

$85 for Mon-star? Absolutely not.

[@Sinsightful]

This video perfectly shows how sad the 'quality' of S7 figures are....especially for the outrageous prices they continually keep raising. I seriously don't understand how they stay in business. 😢

[@ryzelrb]

This is what you guys wanted.

[@itheuserfirst3186]

"No, we would have accepted a more silver paint than the vac metal!"

[@theartisanrogue]

You weren’t being negative, this was an honest review. Flynn knew how this would play out, and he did specify that tolerances in joints, plastic incompatibility issues with the vacmetal process, and overall fragility could be real possibilities. The neck peg coming out and the neck area separating is another level of wtf. I don’t envy being a toy creator these days between costs, varied fan expectations, feedback, and finding a final product and msrp that can cover expenses.

[@wolfman210]

Yeah, people don't realize it's not the 80s anymore and what was possible then isn't now. See also playsets.

[@tyreewilson2140]

The cartoon steelheart didn't do that. The alterations for the vac metal is the issue. Flynn said these things prior but they still wanted it.

[@Alatartheblue]

@@tyreewilson2140 My non-chrome cartoon version of Steelheart had the exact same issue with the neck seam coming apart and the peg popping out. So that particular issue is with the original design/mold, and not due to the vac-metal. I've even had that issue with figures from other lines as well.

[@tyreewilson2140]

@@Alatartheblue damn…I stand corrected. Must’ve not been widespread enough for this is my first time seeing or hearing this. I hope I didn’t come off disrespectful as it was not my intention 🙏

[@spaghettijacket7667]

When the neck joint came out… oh man it’s too early for a scare like that.

[@bigsteed007]

Same thing happened to my ultimate Dukes neck. Also had issues with storm shadow. Super 7 have great sculpts but their quality doesn’t justify the cost.

[@Alatartheblue]

My regular non-chrome Steelheart had the same neck seam/peg issue.

[@drewchase6577]

I think we would've been happy with just standard metallic plastic... like on a marvel legends iron man or colossus.

[@Charmander009]

U would have been happy . Not me , I want vac or nothing

[@drewchase6577]

@Charmander009 The novelty of vac is cool but lt literally chips of after taking it out the box of posing (wasting money). Vac could definitely work for a statue or maquette.

[@bee-beargaming]

You probably need gloves when handling the sliverhawks

[@MrWolf12000]

I was thinking that the whole time they were onscreen. Insane as it may sound thats what I do with my OG Hawks and Transmetals.

[@ToonamiT0M]

I feel that if they just used a very shinny paint as opposed to the vac metal, the fan base would have been satisfied for the most part. It was that the initial release had such a flat paint job that made the figures look dull.

[@drewchase6577]

EXACTLY

[@dannycruz5446]

Yep. If they made the paint shiny like they did for Destro and Czarface there'd be no issue in the first place.

[@coldersoldier]

Half the people that complained would've whined just the same.

[@yauyuso]

Well, then fans will whine that it's not vac metal. I think fans of the cartoon will be happy that series 1 was close to the cartoon colours. However, the original plan was to use a nice metallic paint but that development didn't work out because of the pandemic.

[@wolfman210]

Metallic paint doesn't give shiny mirror finishes like the people who complained wanted. Chrome paint has problems with rubbing and flaking on moving parts no matter how you apply it: see Molotov Liquid pens.

[@DaBigCheeso]

I wish they'd done a version of the wings on soft goods like the OG Quicksilver. That was my only real complaint. Monstar was definitely bigger than I expected.

[@EvrydayErik]

Silver paint could’ve fixed all of this.

[@tyreewilson2140]

Not what the collectors asked for

[@kingmarkseven17]

​@@tyreewilson2140yes it was. They just listened to the wrong collectors.

[@onassiscustomdesigns5890]

Not worth the price they asking. Joints falling off paint flaking from a brand new figure. Not for the money they want.

[@wolfman210]

They warned people this would happen and people kept dogging them anyway so they finally did it like they wanted. And would you look at that? They were right all along.

[@tyreewilson2140]

Neca does the same thing. But the guys wanted it so bad then let them foot the vac metal bill 😅😅

[@alemovies]

With Super7 you are paying extra for a nice box, they are not premium collectibles.

[@mr.rocket7550]

Nice joke dude! The fact that you worded it so seriously makes it even funnier 😂

[@Freefall347]

@@mr.rocket7550 I'm not sure he's joking. Sure, they are priced like premium collectibles, but the quality is generally just not there. They cost more than Mythic Legions, for example, but are definitely not as good.

[@kingmarkseven17]

​@@mr.rocket7550oh he's not joking. He actually has a good point. They are priced way too high for what they are. They are $35 figures at best.

[@yauyuso]

They are premium collectibles. But often they do cartoon characters that doesn't have a dazzle or eye catching details more high end companies do.

[@Freefall347]

@@yauyuso sorry, strong disagree. It's not just the style that makes something a premium collectible, although that does help. But the engineering, tolerances, amount of paint and precision of application, even quality of sculpting, all play into that. The S.H. Figuarts Dragon Ball characters (not Z, original DB) all have a cartoony appearance, but still strong sculpting and paint applications. Super7's products are mostly at the level of Hasbro and Mattel. Sometimes they release a banger, and they do tend to load out the accessories at least, but a lot of it is greatly underwhelming (their Power Rangers figures, for example, are not even as good as the remastered Lightning Collection, IMO. I also purchased their Cobra BAT, but honestly do not find it particularly superior to the Classified version).

[@kinja73]

Hmm...the vac metal is gorgeous, but the trade-off in overall quality is a bummer.

[@zufalllx]

Look, super7 is just a corner cutting company. One look at any of the Reaction figures will tell you that. You can't buy super7 and expect NECA.

[@darthprime4916]

Appreciate the honesty. I’ll Keep These in box.

[@PlasticGeek]

I recall Brian saying the abs parts that the joint swivels are made of can’t be chromed, but they couldn’t be excluded when chroming the rest of the parts so it will just flake off those parts when used, because they weren’t supposed to be chromed to begin with. So it actually should slide off of the inner joint discs.

[@mannaandmonsters]

Tamashii Nations was able to do it just fine for their Dragon Ball line Metal Cooler. Super 7 just continues to fumble.

[@Redeemer23collectibles]

@mannaandmonsters I have that cooler fig but it does have some flaking so not true as far as chromed out figs not one company is perfect.

[@mannaandmonsters]

@@Redeemer23collectibles I have that figure as well. I had to mess with it for a while before I had flaking of any kind. Also didn’t have to worry about limbs falling off or looseness in the joints.

[@wolfman210]

I have several Soul of Chogokins that have flaking and scruffs on their chrome parts just from being stored so yes it very much is an issue and not just Super 7.

[@tyronewested694]

Actually no Metal cooler only has vac metal on armor pieces all the base body and joints are all painted silver

[@MrWolf12000]

Not to dimiss S7 qc issues, but SHF are just as if not more expensive from a far more experienced toy company. Not excusing anything but we cant seriously compare the quality of S7U to SHF. Its Apples and Steak. OT I have long thought that Ultimates needed to be in line with NECA pricing

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

They all look good, but the problem with super 7 is the lack of engineering. Buzzsaw should have had a head that was engineered to raise and lower.

[@mksolid82]

Why didn’t they just use very metallic paint on the regular cartoon releases? It didn’t have to be vac metal. Finding a middle ground would have been fine.

[@Freefall347]

That seems to be the eternal question. I mean, Silverhawks isn't MOTU or Transformers or something where it has a huge fanbase demanding slavish cartoon accuracy. I really doubt many people would have been disappointed with shiny metallic paint.

[@mksolid82]

@@Freefall347 The music intro of the cartoon is a lot of fun, but the cartoon itself is pretty bad. The old toys are what always came first. The whole situation is a big misfire.

[@traeharrold-beckham1905]

@@mksolid82 that cartoon was not bad

[@lipranditoys]

Trying to give collectors what they asked for, Super 7 spent a lot of money to produce something they warned everybody in advance that it couldn't work. Now these things are out, more expensive than usual because Super 7 had to apply a process that's new to them, and since they're super fragile nobody will buy them. So in order to please a dumb request from collectors they wasted a lot of money that will never come back. They never should have: it was clear since the beginning that couldn't be done; joints are based on flexibility and friction, paint over chrome is weak, it always was and it always will be, they should have ignored the clueless request.

[@razrentals8897]

The neck breaking isn’t just a problem with these vac metal figures. This also happened with aMondo Gecko Ultimates I got from them and also a Thundercats Rataro. I’m pretty sure a few others where I could see the neck starting to pull apart so I never changed the head.

[@Grochlink]

That's it. Never opening mine. I'll keep the originals displayed.

[@tedc.williams832]

The moment the neck joint snapped makes me wish there were multiple cameras filming you at that moment, because while I never want to see something that many people genuinely wanted and paid good money for being faulty, that may be one of my favorite "oh s^&t" moments in a product review ever.

[@CringerKitty]

Super7 makes some beautiful looking figures, but I have learned to keep whatever I buy from them in packaging (or buy 2 to have 1 loose). Their quality control issues are well documented at this point.

[@Madshellmonstrosities]

Oh man I screamed at the head peg breaking! No one said this would be a horror film!!

[@dokadadoka]

Vac metal sucks and is fragile there are better options

[@kt1fan341]

That good old super 7 quality can’t wait for the 2003 turtles lol

[@vriderch1360]

None of those figures have vac metal so it's not comparable in the slightest.

[@wildsmiley]

That Steelheart figure is stunningly beautiful. 😍

[@JulioGomezNYC]

You all wanted Vac Metal.... you got Vac Metal. I'm happy with the cartoon accurate figures. I knew this was inevitable.

[@dannycruz5446]

People wanted shiny silverhawks not necessarily vac metal. A shiny metal paint app would've sufficed.

[@JulioGomezNYC]

@@dannycruz5446 but that's not what people were bitching about. They wanted it like the toys. Super7 said ok and it's clearly dumb. I knew it would be unnecessary. I rather have cartoon accurate characters than vac Metal, which never last long.

[@vriderch1360]

@@dannycruz5446 No, they clearly begged for vac metal.

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

@@JulioGomezNYC Honestly, I get what they mean. They could have at least celshaded them, instead we got flat and boring ones.

[@JulioGomezNYC]

@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 Then it would've look too cartoonish. Somehow it works with 1/6 scale X-Men but the original release are good, as they look like what I remember in the show. Vac is just a gimmick

[@265308]

It weird that Quicksilver looks kinda blacked chrome. hmmmm. Man ON STEELHEART even after the face paint damage on her face she still looks gorgeous(arguably 1 of da most underrated female characters FROM DA 80S SHE HOT AS HELL!!). Think as long as U pose em leave em alone the paint should last forever and a lil Gorilla mounting putty on the LIL hawks will ensure they stay on the arms. I can't wait 4 U 2 review "el Nino Cobre aka the COPPER KIDD when he hits the scene later this year. PLZ KENNER RE-ISSUE THEI VINTAGE SILVERHAWKS THEY WILL SELL OUT GUARAFUCKINTEED!!!! # HALCONES GALACTICOS

[@AutomaTom1939]

The same thing happened to the neck joint on my SteelHeart, too. I wasn't able to pull the dumbbell out of the head, so I had to just put it back into the neck. Despite doing it as delicately as possible, the front and back halves of the neck/torso started to split when I did. Luckily it finally went back in, but I'm not touching that thing again! No mask for SteelHeart. 😅

[@tenimeartstudios]

The open fingers on Buzzsaw are to "pull" his chest ripcords. That's how I have my yellow one displayed (the toy versions are still in my Pile of Loot).

[@christopherdeleon2095]

There's this Japanese toyline called Saint Seiya that does heavy vac metal all of the time, so it's a question of materials. Given how stingy super 7 is with their QC, they'd never be willing to do it right in the first place.

[@gianluca.pastorelli]

I like the phrasing "this Japanese toyline called Saint Seiya", like it's an obscure thing. In Europe (especially Italy) and of course Asia it's actually massive!

[@abrahamflores4344]

​@@gianluca.pastorelli in latin america too

[@ryanbobadilla2527]

They don't use vac metal anymore it's all diecast and metallic paint, I have a few and there isn't any vac metal on any Saint Seiya figures.

[@wolfman210]

@@ryanbobadilla2527 I have two of them myself and to OP yes, they do scratch and the instructions flat out warn you to be SUPER careful with handling and attaching parts to minimize risk of damage to the paint.

[@tyronewested694]

No the vac metal on Saint seya is only on armor parts that attach to the base body

[@PureLove1818]

The matte versions are looking better n better...lol

[@job4391]

Can you talk to Brian at Super 7 and see if we can get Venture Brothers Reaction figures.

[@frankschuler2867]

I love the sculpts of their Silverhawks figures...but I had QC and engineering issues with 5 of the 6 figures I own. Loose as hell ankles on almost all of them, lack of ab crunch on many of them, self-destructing bicep on Steelwill...etc. They were a disappointment after collecting quite a few of their Thundercats figures which have been fantastic overall. I agree that the vac metal figures look amazing, but I couldn't imagine actually getting them after my lackluster experience with the regular figures. If I were a real Silverhawks nut, I could see myself getting these vac metal figures and keeping them sealed in their boxes. But, just being a casual, I just can't take that dive. Thanks for the great and honest review!

[@franciscojavierlopezcerda9916]

This happened to the vintage silver hawks same issue!

[@splugereport]

In summary. They didn't solve anything. Utterly useless. Make it from harder plastic then guys.

[@carlswicegood4519]

Mon-Star was the ultimate big bad in my toy universe growing up. Skeletor, Cobra Commander and Megatron reported to HIM. So I really would like one for my display, but with that limited articulation and price point I don't think he's going to bossing around anyone on my villains shelf.

[@MrWolf12000]

If you keep your eyes peeled the Wave 1 version can be found at a much more reasonable price. I got mine for 45 from BBTS on a daily deal. Its a fantastic figure and at that size and price was cheaper than an oversized Marvel Legends; but that was luck and timing. That toy version will likely be in shorter supply, so I would not count on that specific version being discounted but who knows.

[@Freefall347]

@@MrWolf12000 I was going to say the same thing, and I think I got the same deal as you. The new one might be shorter supplied, but I don't know, I don't think there is a lot of demand for Silverhawks, and Super7 may have actually killed collector's enthusiasm for the line by playing these games with saying they couldn't do vac metal, and now putting them out. I guess we'll see. Incidentally, I did get the toy version of Mon-Star. It is... okay. Limited articulation is still frustrating (hard to get him to sit in his throne) and his entire torso is completely unpainted, just colored plastic. Not only that, but I had the old figure, and I based on my memories and this video, he had a semi-gloss finish, but the new release is completely matte all over. I don't hate it, but it does feel lacking, especially for such a high price point.

[@bufordhighwater9872]

I'd maybe say that Quicksilver is a gunmetal color.

[@Aleks0709]

Ever since the beginning, I always thought you we waaaaay too generous for Brian and Super7. They are so much more worse than you present them. I bought a few toys, I am basing my opinion on my personal experience.

[@impossiblepie]

Shart had face paint chip right of Quicksilver. Don't buy these not worth it. I would've bought Steelheart to go with my vintage childhood figure but that's not going to happen.

[@Dublr81]

I feel like you Dan are usually very positive on things especially figures. U generally take the high road. Knowing that I can see you were being very honesty but kind here, pulling back from being overly critical. I can see other reviewers going in on Super7 especially since there is the fandom that loathe them to a point. I've only own one Super7 figure, picked up Cobra Commander on Amazon for just under $30 and tbh that feels like the price point they should be or less. They look super cool and have great accessories but the figures are very limited in articulation and something seems to be missing. Im not sure if Ill every buy another figure from them and if I do it will only be on clearance. They def do not feel like they are meant to be handled much. More like a poseable pop culture art piece. All that being said it the fandom asked/demanded the vac metal but seems like there isnt a durable way to do it. The only way it can look they way we want and be durable is if it make out of metal and either chromed or stainless steel polished. Good luck with that happening.

[@kevinm.3506]

Go back and watch your own video Dan...Brian never said it CAN'T be done only that he didn't think it was possible for the level of quality he wanted out of it and I believe he said they were testing some ideas and "we'll see,"

[@jaymogul25]

Complain, complain, complain 🙄 you all begged for vacmetal and you got it. Don't get upset when someone tells you no with explanation and then when you get what you want get upset again. Can't win for losing 😒

[@BriarShinn]

We can't even be mad because they warned us but we just couldn't stop asking for them

[@PrivateAccountXSG]

Plenty of old toys had chrome and are still just fine today... and they weren't obscenely expensive. Just dont put chrome on articulating points. This entire line is a mess.

[@bookat69]

I'm kind of sad those toy versions of Buzz-Saw and Mon*Star come with fewer accessories, but still cost the same as the initial releases. They've each got a new head sure, but it looks like they cut a lot of other stuff out just to put those in or to keep it more faithful to the vintage toys...but without adjusting the cost for getting less stuff over all

[@dannycruz5446]

Buzzsaw is actually $10 more than the original release 😮

[@wolfman210]

TBH I feel like this is one of those cases where you can't really be mad, because they did warn the fandom that this would happen. It also happens with my SOCs that have metallic paint like these so it isn't exclusive to Super 7.

[@stinny72]

I’m sorry, but Super7 is a JOKE. Especially with their Ultimate figures.They have truly earned the name Sub-Par7. Their prices are beyond ridiculous, both with Ultimates and ReAction. The thing that makes it the most difficult to swallow is seeing Brian Flynn acting like a complete victim in all of his interviews while gouging us with overpriced, poorly executed figures. People complain about Hasbro, but Sub-Par7 is like Hasbro on steroids. I appreciate the review though. I had been wondering about these, and they turned out exactly how I suspected they would.

[@archmage7813]

That's your opinion. Thank you for sharing your opinion. Objectively super 7 is not a joke. It's also funny how you spend the entire time insulting them and then say oh they turned out exactly like you thought they would. And since they turned out really good that contradicts everything else you just said. Very weird statement

[@OscarAvilaChannel]

@Pixel Dan, do not place Monstar in front of other toys because the ankle joints are loose, and it will fall forward knocking anything in front of him :( it stands for a day or two and they if falls.

[@tompollockjr144]

Brian warned us, but we just drove off the vac-metal cliff anyway...

[@1000bip]

I’m waiting for the TigerSharks

[@MrWolf12000]

Same here.

[@SonicDeeHedgehog]

My Monstarr has super weak ankles. Won't stay standing.

[@lamcarter]

19:45 wasn’t the vac metal process. The originals have sloppy loose joints too.

[@Starfig]

It's semi-complicated because Brian DID warn everyone it wouldn't work out so great. So he was truthful and up front about that. They are pretty, no doubt, but at the cost and almost guaranteed risk of damage and scratches? It was a bad idea to make these. Shoulda stuck to their guns of "it doesn't work, trust us" and that been that. Cause now you're getting people that will be doubly unhappy.

[@0u812343]

It was nice to meet you at joefest! I didn’t know they made these, I think it’s a little pricey for me. Especially if they scratch up too easy. I’d be afraid to even touch them. I may get and maybe not.

[@decipleofnod6515]

Maybe Super 7 ultimately made these versions for inbox collectors.

[@carlosaugustosoria4805]

Espectacular estos Silver Hawks S7 🇦🇷

[@capnajera]

Hahaha Super 7 drops the ball again... No surprises there

[@FireBomberBassist]

Something I unfortunately wouldn’t open, and I love to open my stuff.

[@marvelpg]

lol as they always say ... be careful for what you wish for 😛😄

[@lipranditoys]

Did you really need Super 7 to explain you that? Joints on action figures are based on friction, frictions means two parts rubbing against each other. The chrome finish is a thin layer that coats each of these parts: rub them against each other and they will scrape. Not only that, to vac-metallize parts they have to be made of a specific material, a hard, non-flexible plastic, that has no give, hence it will break easily. Not to mention the painted parts, that have to be painted on top of the chromed finish, making the paint extremely weak. I have never produced any toys, but guys I learned those things just by handling toys when I was a kid, it's not rocket science. Eeeeeeasy pass!

[@awesomeadamfrom2099]

Awesome job dan drop a like for you.

[@chrisalan457]

I have the Quicksilver and it looks beautiful!!! The thing is I would not move the joints much if at all. These are mainly meant as display pieces and as such works just fine on a display.

[@impossiblepie]

A great honest review Dan! Thanks!

[@johnfronczek2658]

If Pixel Dan has real complaints, you can trust him. If both Shartimus Prime and Pixel Dan have problems, it’s wise to be cautious with the Super 7 Silverhawks.

[@tyreewilson2140]

Shart is waaaaay to rough with any fig to trust him lol but Dan sure

[@OpenByChance]

Problems like with Steelheart are happening all too often across several different toy lines...

[@Mel-md6cb]

Dang. Quicksilver has got a massive noggin

[@Prime92]

This seems weird to me. The chrome should thicken the joints up, not make them lose. Unless they modified the joints to try and compensate for the chrome, and went a bit too far.

[@TheKingOfCollectors]

As a kid I thought the shiny ones were awesome but now they just look cheap, the cartoon version is an upgrade we shouldn't go backwards...my cartoon version Steelheart had the same neck problem too.

[@RirseDeBlood]

The VACs looks so good at a glance, but the moment you get to Steelheart they start falling apart. Do kinda want the green guy through as I never bought the original (got the other three originals).

[@MaestroDrake]

In star wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith, the prop department made rubberized vac metal for lightsaber hilts. They are supposed to withstand pressure and collision. The question is, is it an affordable process in 2024?

[@toonytube2444]

I like SUPER7-toys. I bought TOXIC CRUSADERS-figures, but they are all so expensive. I dont know If I buy ever again a SUPER7-toy.

[@horrorman2269]

Nice review! I had to get Quick Silver, he looks amazing! I’ll probably display him with the helmet and wings. I agree that the vac metal on him is too dark. Looks more like gunmetal gray than silver

[@vengeance1701]

Find a pose and stick with it, I guess.

[@WagesofCine]

Great review. I thought that neck snapped at first and was like “oh no”. Then can already tell I’ll be afraid to handle these. I’m going to do my best to accept that there be flaking and scuffs.

[@kingmarkseven17]

Here's the thing. I didn't even care about the vac metal because I already knew it would flake. What I wanted was METALLIC paint! Shiny. Silver. Paint. The same paint they used on other figures but for some reason refused to use it on these one that actually needed it! Brian is an idiot. That so called "animated style" paint job they used just didn't hit. The articulation also sucks. Useless torso joints for what? They don't turn or bend. They do stuff with no thought behind it. It's frustrating. I'd rather another company have the license but unfortunately this is all we get.

[@yauyuso]

This is basically what happens when you do an modern action figure in vac metal. There is a reason that it's not possible, and not that Super7 made the impossible happened. nobody is praising them for it. For those of you that don't know, $65 for a vac metal articulated figure is practically a steal. Bandai recently did a vac metal Cooler SHF figure for Dragonball and that's $200. In reality, it's not impossible to make happen. but vac metal is very hard to do right and looks cheap. The joints fall off easily because the connecting parts are mostly sanded thinner to accomadate the thickness or the vac metal paint process. Once again , prove you can't listen to the fans. THey don't know what they are talking about.

[@dominicpaul1]

This is the most resigned I've ever heard Pixel Dan 🤦🏻‍♂️ In England we have a slang term for poor quality products. "Bobbins" "It's bobbins" Perfect time to use it... 👍

[@ChuckWCoulter]

I have things I do not love about Super7. So many Shogun complaints. Even the boxes... it's not like they commission Francisco Francavilla. They have great licenses, but, over time, they have never become a go-to. My Firefly varsity jacket is sound. I like some Richard Scary (where will I find that?). Mondo is the way to go. I have not become a Sideshow adherent. But Mondo soft vinyl (actually quite hard) is my favorite. Artists like James Groman.

[@dontapinkney3994]

So, if I ever do decide to purchase the VAC-METAL figures? I’m keeping them right in the box! But, SUPER7 as a whole, really needs to do better! No matter what line you collect? These figures aren’t cheap! And for things to fall apart so easily… is not the answer.

[@JMan1380]

I didn't have very many Silverhawks either...or Thundercats. My Mon-Star and Buzz Saw became stand-ins for mutated forms or any other monster characters I wanted. They usually fought Superman.

[@Goldenbane]

When I finally bought the four Silverhawks figures (Quicksilver, Steelheart, Steelwill, and Blue Grass) they surprised everyone by releasing the vac-metal figures. I was so disappointed because I couldn't afford both. However, seeing this, I'm now extremely happy that I got the original versions. They might not be as pretty, but they are a lot more sturdy and fun to play with.

[@legend_oflouis9813]

Why did they vacmetal the joints 💀 such a bizzare choice. I think they look great, but yikes something this fragile and risky coming from Super7 just feels like a recipe for a disaster. I would really like to know WHY there figures cost so much…I get they are a smaller company and probably make a more limited quantity than other companies….but it blows my mind how they change 65-85 for figures that are often not fit for function. You can’t be that small of a company if you have Disney, Nickelodeon, WB, Peanuts, Hasbro and countless other big licences under your belt. Idk the company does some interesting different stuff but yikes is the GC and design for the price shocking.

[@oscarnjboy]

I'm not sure how alot of their releases have so many QC issues, my entire tmnt set like 75% of them have very loose joints out of box, lol o went through 3 Raphels lol

[@Alatartheblue]

My non-chrome cartoon version of Steelheart had the same issue with the neck seam coming apart and the peg popping out. So that is an issue that existed with the original design/mold rather than the vac-metalization. Personally, I wish they had used shiny metallic paint/plastic on the first Silverhawks Ultimates releases, like Super7's own Mecha Godzilla, and like Hasbro's Walgreens exclusive Marvel Legends Silver Surfer.

[@RisingBean]

I had most of the vintage bad guys growing up. they fought my Mego Hulk and Super Powers Superman most often. He-Man had to get involved as well. With that after seeing the comparison I really wish I had gotten the green Buzz Saw. I didn't think they would make any variants so I bought the yellow one. Oof. I can't justify another $65 to correct my mistake. Oh well.

[@PureLove1818]

Do u think the "action" part of action figures is 100% gone? (Example- super powers, thuder cats and silver hawks with no action features) Thank goodness for Sy-Clone! Lol

[@actionfigures]

Alright...I opened and displayed and I will say 100% that I'm in for the whole team, flaking be damned!

[@Templar462]

I'm sure these are fine for folks who keep their figures in the package to display. But I open my toys and play with them. I loved my old Silverhawks figures as a kid, and I played with them constantly... and of course, they got completely scraped up and just trashed because of it. These look a-freaking-mazing, but clearly they fall into that dangerous collectible category of *not a toy*. I'm perfectly happy with my cartoon Silverhawks figures thanks!

[@barryhebert5839]

Looks like something that u should never take out the box

[@adamcraig7842]

1. So many interchangeable hands for a character who looks like he belongs on a metal album cover, and not one is throwing up the horns. I expected better of Super7. 2. Now I want to see "Avengers: Age of Buzzsaw".

[@BowserTheThird]

My issue is we’ve gotten metal looking figures from Super7, Robotic Rocksteady, Shredder 2, Metalhead, etc. why could we not get that same plastic/paint application for the Cartoon Silver Hawks? I understand there’s different factories and Super7 uses quite a few depending on the line and how much they value the line itself, like we saw with the simpsons, they switched factories midway through the waves and the last couple figures while they still looked great had seriously loose joints, something I’d never dealt with to that degree with say my TMNT Ultimates…