They sent me AMD's Unreleased POWERHOUSE

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@NerdNest
@NerdNest 11 сағат бұрын
By the way It took me HOURS, but I've successfully got Bazzite working on this puppy, video coming as soon as I can get gameplay captures. Check out the Podcast 🎧 kzbin.info/aero/PLly4JWEWaZCpkvpv3BLgOpqJ-Xki455HU
@NikorouKitsunerou
@NikorouKitsunerou 6 сағат бұрын
How good does the red color FF0000 show on the screen, is it vibrant or tomatoish like it is on the TUF screens?
@sk2621
@sk2621 6 минут бұрын
Can you try more tablet oriented Linux OSes like Ubuntu touch or plasma mobile (KDE, so maybe getting plasma mobile working in Bazzite on this machine) or postmarketOS?
@malcaniscsm5184
@malcaniscsm5184 10 сағат бұрын
I would be very interested to see how it works with Linux, whether Bazzite or a more "desktop" distro. Or both!
@electricmiragemedia
@electricmiragemedia 8 сағат бұрын
Same!
@Unkn0wnC0mmand
@Unkn0wnC0mmand 2 сағат бұрын
This device is for me. 3D modeling and 3D scanning for 3D printing with a gaming session each night. The pen compatability and the ability to get the keyboard completely out of the way when I'm modeling with a pen is a godsend. Laptops I hate for my kind of work- the keyboard gets in the way and your drawing positions are limited. The laptops like the Yoga that fold are far too thick. When I have a 3D scanner and I'm scanning a part that I want into CAD, a tablet like this will be absolutely perfect. Powerful enough to handle large point clouds but portable enough for me to balance on a shelf/small table/etc while scanning with a 3D scanner. With a device like this, I don't need a seperate drawing display, like a Wacom, nor do I need a seperate gaming laptop. I also travel a lot in airports and flying. Using a tablet with a kickstand on the tray table is 1000x more comfortable than having to also fit a keyboard on such a small surface. This is a great combination of I/O (which the ipad severely lacks), gaming power, workstation power, and portability, in a full x86 platform. This tablet is for a whole lot more people than your video suggests. I'm so glad Asus is making stuff like this.
@spadac4543
@spadac4543 7 сағат бұрын
So cool you get to put Bazzite on it! So excited to see that video. Awesome of Asus to allow it.
@Randombullterrier
@Randombullterrier 10 сағат бұрын
It would be really interesting to test Bazzite with latest kernel and Mesa versions on this device
@Montisaquadeis
@Montisaquadeis 2 сағат бұрын
Bill the fact that they sent you one is BONKERS!!!! Honestly. I can understand sending it over to Phawx and similar techtubers such as the LMG crew and Dave 2D but they choose to send one your way as well. Guess you are getting up there in the eyes of the OEMS
@deluge6479
@deluge6479 Сағат бұрын
Lol they sent it to a lot of KZbinrs. It's about who you know
@42DangerVision
@42DangerVision 4 сағат бұрын
Very cool of ASUS to: 1. Send you a unit for feedback rather than just another "please make a video" marketing push. 2. Be so cool about going ahead with the Bazzite test. They are either very confident(already tried it) or trust you to be fair and honest if it doesn't go smoothly. They are confident in the product and confident that you'll do something cool with it that helps them one way or another. This shouldn't be exceptional. But it is nice to see that a product manager or marketing person somewhere is making the right moves.
@NerdNest
@NerdNest Сағат бұрын
I will say ASUS does not tell content creators what to do with their videos, they sent me a laptop, I hated the laptop, I told them I hated the laptop they said, make a video if you want, be honest with your audience, or don't make the video. I decided not to make the video because I didn't want to make a video trashing something.
@cajun_canuck
@cajun_canuck 5 сағат бұрын
I absolutely want this chip, but in a 16" laptop, with a high res screen. My target is great programming laptop with solid gaming on the side.
@astralpowers
@astralpowers 10 сағат бұрын
This tablet is for me. I currently use the GPD Win Max 2 for work as a software developer. The screen on this is larger, and the performance I would get from this would be a generational leap compared to the 7840U in my Win Max 2. I might go crazy and go for the 128GB version, but realistically, I'd probably go for a 64GB version if they offer it.
@Unkn0wnC0mmand
@Unkn0wnC0mmand 2 сағат бұрын
I am also interested in the 128gb version but do you have any idea when that'll be released? If the 32gb is coming sometime in February, the 128gb doesn't even have an announced arrival date. I'm worried it won't be out for many months.
@stormchasingk9
@stormchasingk9 6 сағат бұрын
Give me this chip in a proper laptop chassis. 4k oled display, full keyboard with per key rgb. That'd be my dream media machine.
@seethruhead7119
@seethruhead7119 2 сағат бұрын
needs a 1440p + oled screen and i'm SO SO SO happy that you already have a bazzite video in the works
@MegaBlackJoe
@MegaBlackJoe 6 сағат бұрын
thnks for the honest info about the noise - I was hoping to use it powered on turbo mode for couch gaming together with the gamepad, but now I doubt it due to high noise.
@NerdNest
@NerdNest 5 сағат бұрын
A tablet form factor isn’t great on the lap
@Spencerwalker21
@Spencerwalker21 10 сағат бұрын
Can we get a gaming performance comparison between PS5 and this tablet.
@PomuLeafEveryday
@PomuLeafEveryday 9 сағат бұрын
It wouldn't compare, it's a console plugged into a wall running at a high wattage vs a tablet running off a battery. It will still be really powerful, but a device plugged into a wall will always be ahead in power. That's just what happens when you sacrifice for portability.
@serhii_himself_98
@serhii_himself_98 9 сағат бұрын
​@@PomuLeafEveryday4070 laptop demolishes ps5 at lower wattage...
@PomuLeafEveryday
@PomuLeafEveryday 9 сағат бұрын
@@serhii_himself_98 This tablet doesn't have a dedicated GPU. The PS5 has the equivalent of an iGPU but at a high wattage, that's why a PS5 is cheaper than a gaming PC.
@baysidejr
@baysidejr 8 сағат бұрын
What do you think this channel is? digital Foundry . You dont come here for tech analysis
@Spencerwalker21
@Spencerwalker21 7 сағат бұрын
@baysidejr no but a simple here's cyberpunk on PS5 vs the tablet would be nice.
@matthewduran7059
@matthewduran7059 Сағат бұрын
Show us Bazzite!! Hope all works well and we are closer to SteamOS direct from Valve
@xxicrimsonixx
@xxicrimsonixx 7 сағат бұрын
I want the HP G1A, which is the laptop version of this chip.
@aflury
@aflury 2 сағат бұрын
Just FYI, OLED consumes significantly more power than LCD. Like more than 2x.
@DaBigCheeso
@DaBigCheeso 7 сағат бұрын
I had a 2022 ROG Z13 and it was nice having that tiny dedicated GPU in a tablet PC. The 4GB of VRAM was a bit tight though and it ate battery like Pacman eating pellets. I was hoping they may retool and use these new APUs that have been going in handhelds to have a more power efficient tablet I could depend on as a laptop. Sounds like this new one does just that. If I hadn't just switched to a 14 inch Zephyrus last year, I would've held on for this to drop
@benkaliamehdi9993
@benkaliamehdi9993 4 сағат бұрын
VRAM OF 2025 ROG Z13 UP TO 96GB OR 64GB
@Wayofthelao
@Wayofthelao 3 сағат бұрын
You are doing good my man. I am glad to see it
@Orain88
@Orain88 10 сағат бұрын
I wish the screen had Hdr support. Slight bummer there. Doom on those settings was probably a poor choice to show off this device. It looks like it may be running sub 30 fps, which doesn't surprise me since you combined Ultra Nightmare texture pool size with ray tracing. That's a recipe for a slide show on a lot of portable devices. With optimized settings doom eternal would easily max out the 180hz refresh rate on this level of hardware.
@derrikjones6877
@derrikjones6877 8 сағат бұрын
@@Orain88 Specs page says it supports Dolby Vision HDR
@Orain88
@Orain88 8 сағат бұрын
@derrikjones6877 interesting I'll have to check that out. Linus said it lacked HDR support while testing it on the show floor. Although I wonder if he based that statement just on his time playing black myth and wukong, which doesn't have any HDR settings regardless of whether it's on or not in windows.
@derrikjones6877
@derrikjones6877 7 сағат бұрын
@@Orain88 I have the flow Z 2023 model & can confirm it supports HDR. I don't see why the 2025 model wouldn't if the specs says it will.
@Orain88
@Orain88 6 сағат бұрын
@derrikjones6877 nice! Thanks for the insight, I was thinking about getting this new AMD one, but if it didn't have HDR, I would have been more hesitant.
@雲開-u4u
@雲開-u4u 51 минут бұрын
I would love to see how this will work, and I’m thinking what if you put it in a desktop, what will it be? only few fans and small psu needed, and a think cpu cooler I guess. it would be a very quiet and fast desktop(and less power needed I guess)
@NothingCoherent
@NothingCoherent 4 сағат бұрын
These APUs are very cool. Problem is pricing. This thing is obscenely expensive. You can get a more performant laptop with a dedicated GPU for less. So I don't really understand the use case.
@ariffinsetya
@ariffinsetya 3 сағат бұрын
well it can be spec'd with up to 128gb of unified memory architecture. the whole package is no more than 120w? which make it possible to put into something more thinner or lighter.
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 6 сағат бұрын
Lawyers run the world these days. Only ten years ago these benchmarks would be all over the internet.
@qlum
@qlum 4 сағат бұрын
I personally use a tablet pc, be it a much cheaper, thinner one, but for me it's useful to just hook up to some external monitors, keyboard / mouse, use it in tablet mode for media consumption. Maybe draw on it too. Or when you are gaming with a controller, or just simply a better keyboard / mouse, having the desk space without the keyboard in the way is also a nice thing to have. Would I buy this, no, but still don't mind the concept at all. Will say though, the keyboard lacking a navcluster is a big nono for me my current chuwi Ubook x has that problem too, and not being able to home/end/page-up /down is just a pain. At least add it to the fn layer on the arrow keys.
@danebeee1
@danebeee1 6 сағат бұрын
Yes bazzite video!! Man this thing with. Oled screen would have been awesome
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 10 сағат бұрын
I’ve been looking into a tablet for 3D art and animation and gaming, looks like I found it lol
@QOBRA
@QOBRA 7 сағат бұрын
I dont think there are drivers yet for Linux, dont know if Bazzite is going to work
@Bentmetal13
@Bentmetal13 9 сағат бұрын
Bill I've watched you for 7 years and this is the first time ive seen you on a screen larger than my phone and your beard is awesome. Anyway i look at this device the only way i could justify 2000 is if it was my only form of gaming, but its awesome to know if i ever had a unique lifestyle i could have this performance in this formfactor
@NerdNest
@NerdNest 7 сағат бұрын
Just imagine if my beard was on a movie theater screen!
@Past_Reflection
@Past_Reflection Сағат бұрын
Lets go! Bazzite next!
@MirelRC
@MirelRC 3 сағат бұрын
This can be a crazy SteamOS machine. Asus, pls, work with Steam, to offer SteamOS on those tablets.
@robertmyers6488
@robertmyers6488 4 сағат бұрын
The ability to draw and write on it.
@theshoemaker1
@theshoemaker1 Сағат бұрын
So it doesn't have a LAN port, but what if I want a wired internet on this thing??
@serhii_himself_98
@serhii_himself_98 9 сағат бұрын
9:20 uhm, is it un issue with editing or does it not even capable of outputting 30fps?
@fernandoferraz4146
@fernandoferraz4146 6 сағат бұрын
1600p + max settings + heavy ray tracing, it's still impressive and I think that if it was at 1080p it would hit 60fps
@Maedhrossss
@Maedhrossss 2 сағат бұрын
Yup, looks pretty bad. Not sure where @fernandoferraz4146 is seeing Raytracing there also... there's no APU right now capable of doing this level of performance.
@sri19
@sri19 5 сағат бұрын
Yes please, review this new AMD Z13 with Linux!
@unlimitedslash
@unlimitedslash 9 сағат бұрын
Could it be possible to try VR using on this little thing? honestly interested.
@finraziel
@finraziel 9 сағат бұрын
I wonder if anyone is going to be crazy enough to stick this in a handheld... Well, not this particular chip, but I believe there was also going to be an 8 core variant with the same gpu power. That could be incredible. Probably really expensive, but still.
@jerryk.1889
@jerryk.1889 3 сағат бұрын
Does it run FSR 4?
@dsa1979
@dsa1979 7 сағат бұрын
Please go on with the Linux test
@floydiustube
@floydiustube 8 сағат бұрын
i like the concept a lot. i'm always nervous to buy asus though. the amount of friends i've had who had to rma or otherwise replace asus laptops due to malfunction is too high
@ResetandoOestado
@ResetandoOestado 23 минут бұрын
a laptop that fold and turn into a tablet is in my opinion just a better design, the keyboard is also a stand for the device, it will be hard to put it in your lap and use it for exemple... not having many things really important for me, but i dont want to lose capabilities, so a device that is able to do everything really is appealing to me, for exemple the phone that fold in 3 from Huawei, for now that is horrible, but imagine that with more power and with a switch to windows and android... that would be insane. i dont want to have an iPad, phone, notebook, PC. i whant just a phone and a notebook that does everything.
@pkilljoy5797
@pkilljoy5797 9 сағат бұрын
I cant stand the feel of these laptop/tablet hybrids. But would be super keen to see this chip in actual laptops in the future
@salsachevy1
@salsachevy1 8 сағат бұрын
I have the 2023 Z13 with the RTX 4050, do you think it would be a significant upgrade for me?
@dzibanart8521
@dzibanart8521 10 сағат бұрын
I don't. Think there is strix halo drivers available yet on Linux... But who knows hopefully it works.
@malcaniscsm5184
@malcaniscsm5184 10 сағат бұрын
Would it need specific drivers?
@KibSquib48
@KibSquib48 6 сағат бұрын
@@malcaniscsm5184 it might work with the existing ones, but it wouldn't be a fair comparison since they have specially made pre-release drivers for Windows
@damianabregba7476
@damianabregba7476 6 сағат бұрын
Depends if mesa devel is available there
@tominfhl
@tominfhl 6 сағат бұрын
Without revealing numbers, would say it has the performance of a 4050, 4060, or 4070? Which of the three is a most accurate estimation?
@NerdNest
@NerdNest 5 сағат бұрын
I don’t have those so I can’t really make that comparison
@Luis-fk6es
@Luis-fk6es 7 сағат бұрын
Can you test out LLMs with this?
@NerdNest
@NerdNest 7 сағат бұрын
That’s not in my wheelhouse.
@KuraiBeat
@KuraiBeat 2 сағат бұрын
i see it in a tablet omg the 395+ is a real monster! 😂 you not really can show fps because the drivers not works good enought under windows so no fps counter means ETA Prime at 5:14 i break up the video who cares windows? okay lets check it out if the linux version is online :D
@amorimjt
@amorimjt 8 сағат бұрын
Bazzite fore sure!!!
@DragunBreath
@DragunBreath 9 сағат бұрын
Throwing my proverbial hat in the ring for a bazzite review.
@robertmyers6488
@robertmyers6488 4 сағат бұрын
Good review
@serhii_himself_98
@serhii_himself_98 9 сағат бұрын
I'm really interested how long it can play baldur's gate 1 on battery (on deck oled it's the longest playing game that I know of, I can squeeze about 14 hr out if it xD)
@WalterRiggs
@WalterRiggs 9 сағат бұрын
@9:32 Does not look smooth @11:00 Better!
@reynold99991
@reynold99991 7 сағат бұрын
can you test blender and other software?
@markus.schiefer
@markus.schiefer 7 сағат бұрын
The performance is impressive, but it has three big no-go's for me: The horrible Asus Crapware with its dozen of background services, the thickness and weight. If they bring a proper Notebook of their professional line, it'll be amazing though.
@Jzrad
@Jzrad 4 сағат бұрын
I use tablets exclusively with a stand like a glorified portable monitor, I'm in. I want to leave iPadOS and Windows behind and live a Linux life. A folding x86 linux tablet with a cell radio would be end game. No more carrying iPad, phone, and steam deck around.
@evilvash0
@evilvash0 2 сағат бұрын
ahh yes another laptop completely out of my price range hats off to all those who able to afford this and everything else to live in this economy woooo
@keddytweek
@keddytweek 9 сағат бұрын
Yes install bazzite
@John_Doe1980
@John_Doe1980 10 сағат бұрын
given the temps of the previous version of this REALLY hope they fixed it cpu an gpu temps in the 80/90s is pathetic didnt really cover thermals guess its still under NDA
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 9 сағат бұрын
Apparently it stays pretty cool. This one is using integrated graphics vs the dedicated gpu in the last one running at higher wattages. So temps should be pretty good
@Goalier95
@Goalier95 4 сағат бұрын
Who else thinks the starting price will be well over $2000 USD? I can only imagine the top end version with 128GB RAM going over $2700 😩
@CHA0SBLEEDS
@CHA0SBLEEDS 7 сағат бұрын
This laptop is more for creators. Video editors, artists etc. I could see this not being for you, you still prefer a device like the Steam Deck over all the other handhelds released since (my favourite is the Legion GO). Seems like you go for more practicality in the devices you use. I was actually surprised Asus sent this to you 🤣🤣.
@benpassmore7135
@benpassmore7135 8 сағат бұрын
The thing is….I’ve been a gamer since I was a 10 year old kid in the mid 80’s. I’ve had consoles, microcomputers, PC’s and handhelds of all types. And now, with the fast internet we have in the UK and GeForce Now. I don’t understand why I would need a powerful gaming PC anymore. Why spend (for example) £1.5k on a powerful gaming rig when I can use a £200 laptop. That kind of money will pay for years is streaming subscriptions and I won’t have to continually upgrade. I have a steam deck and love it, but I do wonder if I will replace it and just use the 10 year old MacBook I have on the shelf, of the 4 year old android tablet, or even the chromecast that’s connected to the TV. Time’s are changing and I think hardware for the casual gamer may be a thing of the past in a few years.
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 6 сағат бұрын
Being about your age, I still feel there is a huge difference between streaming gaming services and the real deal.
@GreedoShot
@GreedoShot 3 сағат бұрын
i just want a real tablet, if it's just as massive as a laptop then what's the point if i want a "powerhouse" i'll use a desktop. a tablet is suppose to be as far away as possible on the opposite end of that spectrum
@truenetgmx
@truenetgmx 10 сағат бұрын
who is this for - for asus and amd as tech demo. Not for me - had surface pro, too heavy to hold, too unstable on lap, screen too low on desk, maby Im too old :)
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 9 сағат бұрын
I love tablets and love the surface pro form factor. You can use this for art and heavy 3d workloads. And you can use it for gaming on your lap without blocking air flow or burning your legs. It may not be for you, but it is for me and others
@PomuLeafEveryday
@PomuLeafEveryday 9 сағат бұрын
Gaming, 3D artists. Heck I just like a tablet because a keyboard takes up too much space on an airplane/train table, better just dettach it and just have a tablet, then use that for movies and gaming.
@JanHavel
@JanHavel 3 сағат бұрын
It looks great but only 13 inch? Everybody who makes theese interesting and good looking powerfull devices is putting on them so small screens :/
@kindpanda1075
@kindpanda1075 9 сағат бұрын
STEAM OS!!! COOL!!!
@das2003
@das2003 7 сағат бұрын
A $3000 tablet that is more expensive than a RTX 5090 laptop with Oled. Yikes! Do they want people to buy this?
@TBlackToothT91
@TBlackToothT91 7 сағат бұрын
Make it a 10 inch handheld and price it for 1.5k then its good. Noone will buy this nonsense for 2.5k starting price xD
@arielsalatan8968
@arielsalatan8968 27 минут бұрын
How About Buying RTX 5080 - 5080 Laptop?? With That Cost You'll Get Powerful Laptop Than AMD Laptop
@H4GRlD
@H4GRlD 5 сағат бұрын
Yes, do the Bazzite video pls. Until then, I'm out. :D
@FierroSev
@FierroSev 5 сағат бұрын
Why do people keep bringing up linux? Linux has terrible support for new hardware. AMD HX 370 laptops didnt get full support until like 3 months later and even then you need to be on the latest test kernel. Windows is the premier gaming os and gives you better battery life than linux.
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 5 сағат бұрын
I’ll dual boot because bazzite is a great gaming OS with TDP control and plugins for easy undervolting and core parking
@cosmic_drew
@cosmic_drew 4 сағат бұрын
Where did you pull the battery life info from? When Linux does have support it has noticeable better performance on the same hardware and better battery life (which is the opposite of what you've said). Linux has much less overhead and extremely customizable TDP which increases battery life. I had to install a third party application to prevent my Ryzen 5600H / 3050 HP Omen windows laptop from having horrible battery life. I ended up dual booting Linux mint and my battery life was almost 2.5X of Windows 11 in battery saver mode.
@FierroSev
@FierroSev 3 сағат бұрын
@@cosmic_drew from owning a zenbook s16 that has Endevour os and Windows 11. Windows with all its battery saving options does better than linux. Im talking about the latest hardware here.
@FierroSev
@FierroSev 3 сағат бұрын
@@christianr.5868 Which you can do in windows, if you are like me with a asus G16, you can install g helper and down that with low overhead. You give up too much to game on linux to make it worth it.
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