They Should Have Listened....

[@hillerfit]

@6:52 The intent of the workout? Are you kidding me? It is fair game ladies and gentlemen.

[@markbarefield7570]

Can you imagine an NFL playoff game/season based off how CrossFit runs their business and workouts…? It’d be catastrophic. Constantly varying doesn’t mean random and off the wall. It’s almost comical to watch professional athletes, people who have dedicated their entire life preparing for the games get crossovers thrown at them and totally losing it. Can you imagine the NFL telling all quarterbacks to throw with their off hand because they wanted something to make the game more interesting. All it does is turn off CrossFit fans and gives ammunition to the haters.

[@thebarbellspin]

And this is why the "touching the rower" on 23.1 was NOT a "nothing burger". If you let that slide, then the athletes will keep pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable...especially when CFHQ writes movement standards that aren't clear.

[@budomann1]

One of the best videos yet, HQ and the sport are broken, lack of integrity and accountability. Thanks, Andrew, for being a true north.

[@rubixmonkey0839]

Talking about accountability, initially it was pushed hard that videos MUST be submitted with scores and was pushed everywhere, only to later see a post by The Barbell Spin saying video submissions weren't required. I missed an opportunity to submit a better for test 2 because I was doing my due diligence and abiding by their rules. Also athletes could submit a score and unless asked for a video (which could be performed later now), not provide proof?

[@rubixmonkey0839]

For the inevitable CF &*%$ Up QFs: 1. Crossover standard wording being silently changed on scorecard/standards (not even a version note and time of change? something done in official documents), counting video pushed to social media 5+ hours after window for wods 1+2 opens, which was originally only included in scorecard/movement standard document and nowhere else 2. Beginning of QFs it's stated multiple times and right there on submission page that athletes must provide video with score submission. Later walked back, scores can be submitted without video, not pushed by HQ that I know of, only saw it posted by Brian Friend and BB Spin. Sometime late Friday. 3. Judging gray areas. A picture is worth 1000 words and a standard video would be worth 1 million. GHDs hip positioning and what makes a V-Up? Guess you can throw the counting standard for crossovers in here, since were counting cross transitions, not actual crossover skips. You know what throw the heels on the wall for wall facing HSPU in here too, also silently changed and never acknowledged by HQ, no version change or edit note stating what was changed. 4. Inclusivity: If they're going to say they are about it, then I'll mention it. Thursday to Sunday puts two major windows for people with full time jobs during days when they have limited time. Good on not using the daylight savings weekend again which caused submission issues last year, but why not shift to Friday-Monday? That way we can fully utilize the weekend to get tests done. I had about a 3 hour window to get test 1+2 done right after QF started on Thursday, some of which was utilized reading the new (and confusingly worded and later redacted) standards, because I get up to work at 5am (so I go to sleep early) and work until 3pm on Friday (EST cut off time), meaning I had no time Friday to redo tests, everything had to be perfect out the gate Thursday evening (see above: it wasn't). Friday night I don't care about going to bed later if I can sleep in, and then have all of Saturday and Sunday to get 2-3 more tests done and maybe a redo. Also rolling cut off times? Since we are only competing against our region, why don't we have standardized local time cut offs. Some regions might get "more time" but everyone in that region gets it, so it doesn't matter. That way every region can make the most use of their day to get work done.

[@stephenbenecke7652]

On another note, this is one of your best videos! Thank you for the effort. We truly appreciate it.

[@scottmcadam8734]

The quarterfinals videos have been the best videos ever. Keep spittin fire

[@TheBryceSheehan]

This is a perfect, and hilarious critique. Love your content, man!

[@cole.s1442]

I agree with everything you said. It’s sad bc I’m such a fan of the sport and I want the sport to grow & be more professionalized. I definitely do hope that they are able to get it together…

[@tjvaught510]

My score on this workout was reached with using the methodology GHD style and yes it’s much harder. Definitely right, CrossFit needs to proofread and figure it out

[@hillerfit]

Thank you for confirming. Crazy we know this and they do not.

[@jordygremillion8315]

“We don’t know fuck about shit” that part got me 😂

[@helsonalbernaz8207]

I’m that kind of guy who likes the video before even watching it. And after watching it, I go there and hit the like button again, but harder 😂

[@hillerfit]

Unlike it in the middle just to relike it at the end? lol

[@helsonalbernaz8207]

@@hillerfit deal lol

[@ramblr5900]

Don’t double that LIKEbutton☠️ … ! Triple tap

[@josiahrye]

“We don’t wanna have his opinions. They make people uncomfortable” PREACH

[@dinosr13]

You’re not wrong. Breaks my heart. Feels like I’m training for nothing. I’m not willing to bend the rules.😢

[@eliarnau]

Best video from Hiller yet!!! So funny and sad all at the same time.

[@julianserna6239]

This whole video pretty much sums up my frustrations with CF, I’m contemplating not competing anymore cause how can a sport be legit when they don’t even know how to run it themselves. A third party rule enforcer (Hiller) would be a good idea.

[@hillerfit]

I like the idea of me, but I have a group of people who would be a great third party team! What they do not realize is that you are talking about considering leaving the space. If you are saying it here, others are thinking it out there / doing it.

[@Sam18elnino9]

It’s almost laughable at this point

[@patricklang7162]

Yes third party team run by Hiller!! Keep pressing CrossFit until they beg for your help Hiller.

[@markbarefield7570]

He needs a bat team in a batcave driving batmobiles throwing a batarang at no reps… 🦇

[@patricklang7162]

@@markbarefield7570 all the No reps and logistic fuckery

[@LarryTranSD]

Loving the Street Parking shirt!!

[@dhfitinc4252]

Love to see it too!

[@IanDaviesRules]

"OUR PETS HEADS ARE FALLING OFF!" omg I died. Gold, Hiller!

[@robertcarter3895]

This may be your best video ever! You had me cracking up the whole time, but it also makes some serious points that need to be addressed.!

[@rileycarpenter6659]

This was brilliant - accurate and fun!

[@vizion9999]

This is my favorite video of yours so far. Especially the ending!

[@loganross8544]

😂😂😂😂 loved this video. Raw and honest! Love it

[@drr1981]

Again...GREAT SHIRT!!

[@hillerfit]

THEY ARE AWESOME!!!

[@drr1981]

The best!!

[@PNW_Charles]

The silence from CFHQ, and the lack of explicit taking of responsibility is super strange. Deafening silence in the face of problems is not stoicism, but rather a fundamental lack of leadership.

[@crossfituntamed4632]

Instead of just having photos and descriptions, Boz needs to make standard VIDEOS! With all details talked about!

[@kiffe22]

Funny thing is, they already do those "movement standards"vids for the open. They just never talk about standards in them, just workout flow.

[@beckjacob]

"I'ma do abs, I'ma row, I'ma do abs".🤣🤣🤣 I would like to personally volunteer to rewrite the penalties for CF. I promise I can make them much more efficient and effective.

[@camerongray7767]

Together ≠ Touching. Together is defined as: “With or in proximity” Proximity meaning nearness in space. Not directly touching. If they wanted the feet TOUCHING, they should have stated that.

[@eyesofclyde]

God damn it sir BRAVO

[@alyssa9452]

Lolz the black and white part at the end was the best 😂😂😂😂

[@hillerfit]

THANK YOU!!!! I was really pumped about that too lol

[@jeremyjohnson8866]

Keep up the Awesome job your doing Sir! Great content love it 🙂👍

[@FSCHW]

Toes, instep, arch and heel are all part of the foot

[@HuddyG123]

I touched my toes with feet together for every v-up because I can read! It sucked and I was 5 reps short of 2 rounds. I know for a fact that if I did it the way other people did it with feet apart touching the tongue of their shoes it would be much easier. I also have long legs relative to my torso so I have more mass to lift every reps.

[@MrGoturo33]

I'm legit a bit upset at "intent" email. I've unofficially qualified for semis and that GHD workout was by far my worst score. Keeping my feet together destroyed my midline. I knew the standard and my feet still came apart twice because it's what they want to do and I was no repped. Had I done them feet apart I would have flown through them and probably finished in the high 500's. Legit BS. It makes a huge difference and when done correctly destroys your midline for the next set of GHDs.

[@DILLOW65]

So just to be 100% clear- having the hips on top of or as IN FRONT of the pad as much as possible(in-between the hip pad and feet) is way easier than on the putter side?

[@codierussell6587]

If they indeed have 200 employes to review a 20 minute workout with an eight hour work day they could review 4800 submissions in one day. They have 5 workouts so in one week they could easily review every one of the 300 athletes to make semi finals. For each of their 200 employees they could give them 4 athletes each and that is the top 800 athletes reviewed in one week if they review a workout a day. I don't know how they don't do this.

[@stang93ful]

🤣🤣👊💯🔥 This was a good one!! Get all up in that ass. The fact that they could have the likes of You, Sevan, and Brian on their staff to help solve some serious issues and don’t is nuts to me. All three of you would be on my staff immediately!!

[@jeremyflatter6105]

Waiting on a rogue ab wheel to show up at the games!

[@hillerfit]

Hey it hits the intent of the workout....

[@ajbonline]

Let's have ChatGPT judge the workouts and humanity.

[@Lou-vt5gl]

This is why they will never be a mainstream ‘sport’. Very unprofessional. They can’t even wear collared shirts when commentating.

[@ArjunaAntaramian]

I only watch videos till the end only if it’s Rich Froning working out or any of your videos man. Grate content! Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽!

[@rowwinemastersrowing434]

Best video. And spot on accurate.

[@JBoudreaux0712]

HQ is trying to hide behind the v up standard confusion it appears yet Bill 4.0 let the rower coast to the end while sitting on the GHD (not allowed) and we couldn’t see the monitor. What’s the HQ excuse here?

[@ManOfEthnicity]

If workouts are just about meeting the intent then instead of V-ups I should be able to just hold a plank for the 15-20 secs it takes.

[@marvistadutch]

Here is a simple solution ((heel-to-sphincter in inches)x1/4 of ankle thickness)/Elbow to end of longest finger in centimeters) x butt circumference/waste size) = your GHD setting (middle of pad to foot pad distance)

[@ramblr5900]

@hillerfit 2:13 there was hilarious dre and Mat Fraiser story related to EMOM 40 ghds 😂

[@stephenbenecke7652]

I was suspicious before, but now I am 100% certain that CrossFit will never become a fully recognized sport on the same level as other established popular sports. And it makes me sad, so very sad.

[@jasonpeng817]

Thanks for another great bedtime story Andy H. To the teeeee.

[@eddiedavies3061]

slightly off topic.....i just watched Buttery Bros featuring Dani Speegle, in workout 5 she used gymnastic grips on the deadlifts, how do the athletes not read the workout description although surely an athlete would think that they couldnt use them on deadlifts! following on from that i think she may of got a penalty or she retook the test as on video she got 5.55 but on leaderboard time is 6.47. finally id like to hear your thoughts on whether a time penalty or invalid would be appropriate for something you are told not to do even though it doesnt mention anthing about this in penalty section!!!! loving the content bro

[@anthonydavis3417]

I think it would really help if they just made a standards video with each event. Since they plan these out prior to the whole season starting. I also wish I was smart enough to know my feet could have been slightly apart. V-ups we’re the hardest part of that workout for me.

[@patrickclark8086]

My judge read that as shoes have to be touching and no repped me when they separated. They turned into singles.

[@anthonydavis3417]

@@patrickclark8086 I no repped myself twice in my second set for my toes not touching haha

[@thezelosgames]

Great video. Great shirt 🙌🏽

[@hlkirton]

You repping Street Parking gonna get you a coveted "Street Parker in the Wild" moment.

[@dhfitinc4252]

Did you see the Spoof???

[@hlkirton]

@@dhfitinc4252 Of course! Once I found Andrew's channel, I started moving like hiller's watching. So I also saw that he did 23.3 in the garage, too!

[@davidboyle9732]

ghd's used for everything except for ghd's....never understood that. i like where your content is going, keep up the good work.

[@jrgills]

They run their comps like a typical Crossfit Class: Just do whatever and you will get credit!! That’s fine for classes in some cases depending on someone’s mobilitly and limits, but not here, at least not if we want people to take this sport seriously.

[@jordanbattaglia]

Hiller with this WOD in particular do you think CrossFit should have everyone redo it? Do you think they would even consider doing this? Based on the GHD and v up standards

[@martingrem4143]

There’s just keep getting better and better.

[@havinfungettinfit]

Omg😂😂😂 yours is way up here, well that really sucks! I'm I was in tears😂😂😂

[@every_1s_bff]

DANGER ZZZZZZOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEE. Keep turning up the heat because at some point they have to address the massive inconsistencies because soon many will not want to sign up or even look at the CF comps/season as legit because their isn't any integrity as standards are not being upheld at all!!!

[@edwardpayne8962]

Gonna need a picture to prove that length

[@jvteam9513]

Goddamn Hiller over here just spittin straight fax. Side note: crazy to see how different you looked before CA Hormones/TRT! Neither is better or worse, just the difference between 9 mos ago and now is interesting!

[@JayDoesFitness]

I got DQ in the rogue 1000lbs challenge for not showing every single plate on every single lift and would of get a 25$ t-shirt. The atlethe are competing for thousands of dollars, visibility and sponsors and can't get held accountable. This is ridiculous. I understand some standards are vague but some are clear as day and should be enforced.

[@ramblr5900]

So… what about my 3rd leg then? Than means i can do ghds towards the front? 😏

[@hillerfit]

If you've got it flaunt it

[@avera9636]

So, did any of the top athletes get docked? . . . or, will all of this just slide??

[@hillerfit]

As of now, slide.

[@avera9636]

@@hillerfit Rules for thee, but nor me type thing? Yeah, CF not only went woke, they have now started catering to the elites. Seems about right.

[@germanpotatooo]

9:35 reminds me of pinky and the brain. Great idea, no sucess... You are both characters in one person😂

[@MAPinMike]

Point A to point B. Done. Uncommon movement clause takes play.

[@hillerfit]

It is too easy

[@Crossfat1]

If all the elites do it this way it’s no longer uncommon right?

[@fashionistamungo]

Sporting that Street Parking tee !!!! ❤

[@DMS1010]

For me I have to over-extend way more if I am more on the pads. This leaves me with low back discomfort. If I am a little off the pads (level 1 teaching), less over-extending and no low back discomfort.

[@hillerfit]

I believe this was the point Same Dancer was making 9 months ago. So you are not alone

[@ryankendall522]

Same

[@raejoy87]

I’m 5’4” & have always sat waaaaaay off the pads so I can touch the floor. I never thought to sit forward & use raised pads to touch, so I found the Quarterfinal standard easier than how I train 😅 can definitely see both sides of the debate based on build/height

[@fitnessbyconnie]

Same . Am 5’9 , and always comfortable all the way back …

[@cuentas217]

So hanging/upside down sit ups at the Games

[@JakeCr]

“My penis is way down here” lol you are very good at your job man. Thank you for addressing these things 🦇

[@Craig_Alexander]

😂😂😂 Hiller if you werent right id call you smug but bc you are spitting straight FACTS im flashing that bat signal all day. You are the man. #HireHiller

[@HuddyG123]

I almost spit out my lunch at 3:25 😂😂😂

[@windlord1111]

was eating an orange. narrowly avoided choking to death!

[@michaelptm2269]

It’s madness, our birds heads are falling off. Hahahaha

[@ttzofutah]

One if your best videos brotha. And the penis comment was classic! 🤣

[@dallredCF]

You do not know what it is like to be me. My practice of upholding standards we have written is tough. 😥

[@bethevans3913]

Ima top of the leaderboard for the Ima do abs, Ima row, Ima do abs test 😂

[@MJCsupremefitness]

well said, exactly correct, CF has slipped and the trend will soon die, athletes will leave as the money will soon drop due to lack of participation, 3 boxes around me have closed

[@Snskch3]

Why have a standard you cannot uphold.? It is very unfair for the people that follow the rules. Before they make a standard, they should test a good number of people in the control group after giving the standard without any further explanation to see if they can actually follow the standard as a whole. If not, the standard sucks.

[@asterserv]

Take a look at Sara's V-Ups, they seem pretty correct.

[@Jscogs]

Killin it bro

[@MuJoNeSs]

You're the man! Show them what you're made of! Such a lot of bullshit standards.

[@drr1981]

Our pets heads 😂😂😂😂are...falling off 😂😂😂😂

[@chas3232]

I really thought you were going to end the video with a montage of no reps and Danger Zone playing over it…

[@brandongomez3264]

Time to get my nightly hiller video to go night night 😇

[@kleraaa]

They don’t care about anything besides money 😂 The goal is not to have more crossfiters but to have more people to subscribe cf affiliates, open more affiliates = more people who pay. Thats why the most common quote is “crossfit is for everyone” - to just change mind of “not fit” people to go and start doing crossfit.. the movements in wods are nothing new.. the same movements you can do everywhere, at home, outside or in normal gym

[@hooch2505]

Andrew, be careful....They might actually listen when no one signs up next year 😂

[@sendboi_9726]

Just hire him already!!

[@parker5225]

Looks like some home cooking happened for Kwant. Someone did their job properly then big brother came in and had to help the multi times games athlete make sure he made it to semifinals.

[@domi7073]

I still love CrossFit, but I hate the people, who are cheating all the time. Everywhere

[@KeithGreenshields]

The only issue with our videos is that there is only one a day.

[@ramblr5900]

Wow the demo guy got huge!

[@hillerfit]

Well he is huge haha

[@ramblr5900]

Yeah he looks much smaller in that photo (many years ago) vs what he looks like right now in PRVN or with Annie

[@hillerfit]

@@ramblr5900 The dude is a truck. Cool guy too

[@ritchiewhite5278]

Is That What Ya Think? Ya Think!!

[@hillerfit]

IT DOESNT MATTER

[@JB11334]

Thank you for not swearing in this video at least 6 minutes in. Never mind 6:47. I like your videos but the swearing is too much.

[@hillerfit]

Well technically that wasn't me......

[@JB11334]

@@hillerfit 😂 true

[@WilAlexander]

Height breaks Crossfit anyways 70% of moves benefit shorter-average size guys. 23.1 Wall Balls - at 6'6" and a vertical reach of 8ft. I only throw the ball 2ft. Someone 5'9" may have to throw 3ft up. 23.3 Wall Walks - I didnt have have to even consider the 60" line. But the line 30" long, 10" from the wall?! I nearly go over from being that close and narrow.

[@RoosterJaxn]

LOLOLOL at least you're making this disaster entertaining!

[@hillerfit]

Our arrows will blot out the sun?

[@RoosterJaxn]

@@hillerfit Epic! And the kid voice had me dying 🤣

[@jrow71188]

Okay this was a pretty good video

[@tonydecuba]

Everything I know about CrossFit is self-taught and that's the reason why I have failed to understand several times why the heck the ones writing the standards don't have a paying YOU that double checks every aspect that may go wrong 😐 For God Sake! There are people out there getting paid for re-reading a document before it goes live Why is it any different here 🤦🏾‍♂️... PS: I hate that, but the flip side is that I enjoy your videos a lot and if they don't change you'll have enough content for decades 🤣🙌🏾

[@crossfituntamed4632]

😂😂😂😂😂 10:40

[@allanchestnuttree]

"wE aRe TeStInG cApAcItY"

[@kylegreenley8950]

This workout wouldn’t even be that hard to review… you could watch the start of the row. Skip ahead to see if they wait for the rower to hit 1000/500.. so you’re just watching the GHDs and the v-ups. I watched Bethany shudeburn’s video last night and her v-ups are like Justin’s.. and if her score was given a penalty she’d be outside of the semi’s. But they won’t do anything because they don’t care it seems. 😂

[@htown3728]

Those guys cheated by not even touching top part of their feet. Shame

[@rickyjames5610]

They trying too much with the quarterfinals programming. They F it up

[@katie7674]

🌶🌶

[@jlcragle]

Appropriate that you included the Rock and WWE, since the competition side of CrossFit is simply sports entertainment and not a sport. There are stars that "must be there", since they have big sponsors and CrossFit gets money from those sponsors, but maybe not if their athletes aren't competing. Remember, the people that own CrossFit are a PR/marketing group and they aren't interested in the standards or making it fair. They are interested in more $$$$, more publicity, more views, etc. This won't get better, rather it will get worse. Once they enforce standards they lose control of the narrative and no way they will do that. Why? Because then they can't market and sell it. It's a twisted pile of garbage, since people want to see athletes they cheer for do the same work they It saddens me that affiliate owners and athletes game the workout intent like Bill Clinton "I never had relations with that woman". Sheesh. I'd be embarrassed if I were these athletes and coaches who let them game the intent of the workouts, regardless of how marketable or much of a nice person you are. I'd also be embarrassed if I were Adrian Bozman, as the athletes are stomping all over the workouts you programmed and you're silent. Truly sad.

[@leebradford770]

I think CrossFit is over compensating for past mistakes by prescribing every last detail of a workout. I think they will realise this and won’t adjust scores for any of these athletes. They are in a cycle of constant change, so much so they can’t keep up themselves. They must soon reach a point where they simplify some standards then lock them in place. It will make their job easier and every athletes job easier. It will also reduce the criticism coming their way. It’s the old pendulum swing. It’s swung too far and hopefully it will come (back) to centre soon…I hope