They started it! The myth that Germany bombed this country first during the Second World War

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There is a very strange and mistaken idea that it was that it was the Germans who began bombing British cities in 1940 and that this country then retaliated. In fact, Britain attacked Germany by air long before the Blitz.
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[@Carl6801force]

At 50 years old after watching the current state of the world, I question everything that I ever learned as a child.

[@user-yw8qf8cc3t]

It's allies ie all lies

[@finddeniro]

The Peace spirit of WW2.. lost November 22 1963...if not earlier..

[@KT-nu2zt]

We should question everything that we are told. Democracy is the basis for this.

[@Crazy-oi9lb]

Wow, that was insightful thinking bravo.

[@brianjacob8728]

All you were and are told now are lies. The us gb and Israel are the true axis of evil. Include the vatican in there too.

[@mortimersnerd8136]

We had sent 27 or 29 bombing raids before Germany responded. Hitler did not want to bomb our cities as he still hoped to make a pact with England. I went through the blitz as a child, I was so shocked to find this fact when I researched WW2. History is certainly written by the winners.

[@TRUTHandLIGHT4809]

USA here. We bombed civilians but always claimed it was factories. We also shot planes down while they were landing, automatically killing the pilot when war doctrine was to only destroy the machine. We mocked and ridiculed Japan for shooting our guys when in a parachute. Destroying planes so close to the ground does not allow them to bail out

[@ep8029]

Hitler didn't want a pact with England, he wanted complete surrender followed by the UK working for Germany. He had a hit list of Brits to be executed, including, amusingly, the editor of the Beano comic, for anti-Nazi propaganda stories.

[@Trevor-08]

​@@TRUTHandLIGHT4809bombing of Dresden

[@blitzkopf7267]

thank you very much for the truth 🎩

[@blitzkopf7267]

@@TRUTHandLIGHT4809that’s not true… the factories and other strategical objects were under protection of the best anti aircraft defense the civilians and settlements were covered by international war law and were easy target for the criminals such as usa uk and ussr as these countries lost on the battlefield, they began to destroy the civilian population of germany, its cultural heritage and identity

[@alexmay1754]

This is not the only Lie we have been taught about WW2..

[@dennisliamardell8906]

I know the people in Western Europe would be much better off in every way if the unnecessary Second World War had been won by Germany . The U. S. In World War One and World War Two chose to fight on the wrong side- The Germans have been lied about since World War One ; the lies never end. We helped communists take over half of Europe and now we are aiding the wrong side in Ukraine ; now that the Soviet Union is gone and Putin , the Christian is the only hope left for Christians . International Jewry declared war in Germany in 1933; and , Jews were authoring books with New York Times editorials stating that Germany - its German people destroyed. Poland? Oh, I was taught the French, England’s and United States reason for declaring war - was that we wanted to free Poland from Germans - mostly a Christian , nation. Well, Poland , was never freed - as the Zionists - Bolsheviks due to our going against the Germans - helped the communists occupy Poland until the Soviet Union fell completely apart. U. S. Get the hell out of Germany - Germany - get your balls back and kick the United States , Zionist , run occupation and one world nonsense out once and forever.

[@lidiaspazzard]

True. There's a much bigger and more pervasive one.

[@hexxan007]

​@@lidiaspazzardNow you've made me curious! Do you think you could give a hint without being silenced by the obedience control?

[@jankutac9753]

Yeah but why does it matter? It always surprised me how adults use small boys' logic. Who cares who started it? If it was looming anyway, then the person who strikes first is usually the clever person

[@jankutac9753]

​@@hexxan007don't ask. Probably you're going to get some conspiracy theory about Jews or aliens😂

[@homeistheearth]

Look at old papers around 1930s where Germany moved away from central banking -- and see who really declared war on who first...

[@petrbohacek]

judea declares war on germany

[@caobita]

🎯

[@ottosturhahn9539]

Germany threw the Money Changers out of the temple so to speak.

[@mavrosyvannah]

WCoJ NYC

[@bidenisasnake9932]

Germany saw what the SwEj did to Russia and wanted no part of it. They weren't wrong.

[@coolhandlukeful]

Same as the Cuban missilery crisis I didn’t realise the actual cause of the problem was America had put missiles in Turkey and the soviets responded by putting missiles in Cuba this was news to me and shows how manipulated we have been and how our media has been used .

[@joachimortenburger4026]

@coolhandlukeful - "... and shows how manipulated we have been and how our media has been used ." - with all due respect, the media has not been used - they were those who manipulated us, for they are members of the system and owned by it. And this manipulations are not only continued but increased in the meantime. In my opinion there is no free mainstream-press for plain information anymore - but nothing else than propaganda and brainwashing.

[@Williamottelucas]

And Iran attacked Israel completely out of the blue future textbooks will assert

[@paulnicholson1838]

Much the same as what's going on in Ukraine now. NATO pushing the Russians.

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

I thought it was common knowledge???

[@TomRaw-sd6xd]

Did you ever consider that Kennedy would tolerate Soviet missiles 90 miles from the USA? This was Castro's dream. Castro even said, if the missiles destroy the USA, I don't care if Cuba is destroyed. Turkish based armaments were a bargaining chip.

[@swansong5263]

The older I get the more naive I’m feeling.

[@AngelBaby-cp6kf]

As the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states, the more we see, the less we know.

[@patrickshaw8595]

The time scale and scope of the little hat conspiracy to rid the world of whites IS difficult to wrap ones mind around for -like- normal non-demonic people.

[@nedeast6845]

the older you get, the more you learn that people teach you history through their own lens....do your own research, don't listen to people like Simon

[@leewright7623]

It’s all good bro, welcome to the school of “unlearning” …

[@krazytroutcatcher]

@@nedeast6845🤡🤡🤡🤡 It’s in the book ‘Bombing Vindicated’ A book circulated amongst MP’s of the period, because the public “must not know”

[@dancancade7101]

"History is a set of lies agreed upon" - Napoleon Bonaparte

[@stephfoxwell4620]

No. That is the Tory Election manifesto

[@Pinkdam]

Fortunately one can find Spaight's 'Bombing Vindicated' and see the fact for themselves.

[@alwaysright3108]

During the last years of the war my father was a POW in Dresden. He survived the bombing and being a firefighter by profession he did everything he could to fight the firestorm. Although he hated Germans for what they had done to him and his Dutch countrymen, he never forgave the British and the Americans for their senseless bombing of the city and the numerous casualties that caused at the end of a war that already had been lost by Germany.

[@szolanek]

This Dresden thing is a myth. All German cities were levelled And Japanese.

[@monicali2608]

They bombed the cities but never the railway to Auschwitz, knowing what was going on there.

[@juttaweise]

@@szolanek not all cities! Dresden is famous because it was the last one to be bombed in march 45 and for the fires which followed the bombings destroying almost the complete town. It is surely not a myth.

[@kensummers7757]

If they had already lost why did they keep fighting? (many (British) ex-soldiers I met hated the Germans for that exact reason)

[@szolanek]

@@kensummers7757 Today it is NATO and Israel.

[@stukavonferno8858]

I was in Dresden around 10 years ago and noticed how old the buildings looked, I said to mein host, "how come the buildings look so old? I thought we flattened Dresden". She said, "you did but the city was rebuilt to the original plans". To which I replied, "you flattened Coventry and we replaced everything with concrete boxes", which she found highly amusing!

[@MarkJones-ji8fd]

Are you saying the Germans are good engineers? Not so, have you seen some of the crude holes made in the concrete roofs of certain camps in Poland. Absolutely shocking afterthought

[@Occident.]

​@@MarkJones-ji8fd😂😂😂

[@stukavonferno8858]

@@MarkJones-ji8fd Not at all, just offering a contrasting post war anecdote of how we built concrete monstrosities and they restored their city to Its former glory.

[@MarkJones-ji8fd]

@@stukavonferno8858 it's okay mate, we're not on the same page

[@postscript67]

I read somewhere that the Coventry town planners had already begun flattening historic parts of the city before the war started and after the war leapt at the opportunity the bombing had given them to complete the job.

[@miketurpin2309]

We have all been lied to for decades

[@runswithwindz9875]

About everything.

[@oyvey304]

@@kylethedalek See, they did bomb us first. They attacked the town called Rotterdam in the UK.

[@ant7936]

​@@kylethedalek So, there's your justification? 😅😂

[@raypurchase801]

@@kylethedalek On this one occasion, Simon is uttering complete poo-poo. The RAF's first raid of the war was indeed on 4th September 1939. The target was German warships in naval ports. These unescorted raids were conducted in daylight to avoid civilian casualties. Simon has read a list of cities and assumed the cities themselves were the targets, whereas the targets were warships and naval facilities in the ports in those cities.

[@Chrisst1961]

@@kylethedalek After heavy shelling and bombing, Warsaw officially surrendered to the Germans on September 28, 1939.

[@petrbohacek]

Judea declares war on Germany. March 24. 1933.

[@lynnmeyers10]

There was no JUDEAN NATION.

[@bretteumont657]

Wow I thought was only one who knew this detail of history. The Jewish Zionist sold out Germany in WW1 the Balfour document

[@pastthepeak3195]

​@@lynnmeyers10what are you inferring right now? That the statement above is false?

[@RemoTschopp]

But Evil.

[@lynnmeyers10]

There wasn't then. There had been, but not at that time. It hadn't been re formed then, although there were Jews there. They sure would have had a rough war from there. As it were, 2/3 of European Jews were murdered. I'm still against NeoNazis and Nazis--PERIOD people who are terrorists as well . I support Israel. There needs to be peace and a sincerely hard working population of Palestinians, not sponges who caused this to happen and lived off US thru UN while Hating Americans and aiding evil radicals..

[@luemmel1202]

thank you, from Germany 🙏

[@Occident.]

"Judea declares War on Germany". Headline in the British Newspaper The Daily Express. March 1933.

[@loretta231]

People's Front of Judea or the Judean People's Front? 😁

[@pauldelaney5990]

​@@loretta231- The Popular Front for the Liberation of Judea!!

[@lawLess-fs1qx]

@@loretta231 The Judean People's Bank were the one's applying pressure to Atlee & FDR for war. The bank always win

[@kevinkirgan5543]

Hitler ordered the German Air force not to bomb English towns and cities, they were only allowed to bomb ports and warehouses. The only books burnt by the NADP were flith and transvestite books peddled by the same group of people that are pushing the same agenda today any guesses who that might be ?

[@leewilliams6070]

​@@kevinkirgan5543 you are correct

[@andrewmcdonnell2821]

It is a fact that more German civilians died in the proceeding years after the war than during the war.And that’s including Dresden.Let that sink in.

[@Porkypies6m]

as many as 9m

[@mindsetmatters370]

Yes, and it was a deliberate policy of the American General Eisenhower to feed the Germans last, and if that meant wholesale death by starvation, so be it . He was a Zionist after all. Because they were in complete control of the Food Chain the Americans had a great deal of "leverage" over the whole of post-war Europe which included their "allies" the Soviet Union.

[@rzella8022]

@@Porkypies6m A pure genocide that cannot be spoken of. A travesty of injustice, but God knows and the day of reckoning will happen.

[@saliksayyar9793]

So why is Germany still held hostage by Israel?

[@elbuggo]

The peace was more dangerous than the war.

[@petrbohacek]

"In war, truth is the first casualty"

[@angeloflight1199]

"Lying is convenient. Telling the truth requires bravery." - quoting myself

[@Myfriendwaits]

Principles then bravery.

[@eddysgaming9868]

I have seen history warped and twisted within my own lifetime. And it's always for a political purpose.

[@MrDaiseymay]

Naagh just bad and lazy research . Go watch the worlds greatest documentary TV series ,in 26 one hour programmes, I speak of the incomparable ''Thames TV ''THE WORLD AT WAR.''. ON SHOW EVERY DAY, SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD, EVEN AFTER 50 YRS.

[@fredflinstone6601]

Nefarious purposes

[@martynflynn8368]

@@MrDaiseymay The "world at war" ? To watch that pile of drivel would certainly be contributing to "lazy research".

[@svenboelling5251]

No, it is mainly lying to calm the emotions. Often through self-deception. you could study that well in real time in recent years with Corona, vaccinations and all that. Politicians do this in exactly the same way as the individual voter, often fully automatically and unconsciously. And those who don't realize it themselves are the worst.

[@QuattroSG]

Mrdaisy, you should listen and not speak. Your idea of research is watching tv, you probably can’t find your own butthole.

[@septembersurprise5178]

"The very ink with which all history is written is merely fluid prejudice." - Mark Twain

[@mikedelta1679]

An interesting use of the word "Fluid" as an adjective by Twain. Thanks Septimus

[@nedeast6845]

Thank you samuel longhorne clemens

[@BlackMasterRoshi]

@@nedeast6845 SHAME on you mister clemens!

[@peterd.1165]

Total civilian deaths from bombing in the UK, for the duration of the war was just over 30,000 people. In just one night we bombed Dresden, which had no industrial or military significance which sustained deaths of an estimated 100,000 to 250,000 civilians. This was intended to terrorize the German people - Dresden was not a military target. The author David Irving wrote a very successful book about this and the atrocities which we inflicted on innocent German citizens.

[@wilfredwood2636]

Good they started it Invading most of europe, then trying britain. So we give them a lesson. This book is a pact of lies. My dad and uncle were in the RAF, even they say its lies.

[@TlsMS93]

It's funny how the establishment claims that the number of deaths in Dresden was a maximum of 25,000 people, but that was what could be identified. The bombing was carried out with incendiary bombs and even white phosphorus, which causes a death worse than a nuclear bomb. Tens of thousands were turned to ash and the city was overrun with refugees from eastern Germany.

[@MsDormy]

My dad, who saw terrible things in the Second World War, having been part of the awful walk out of Burma, always grieved over the atrocity that Britain committed against civilians in Dresden. We firebombed, waited till the emergency services had mobilized, then firebombed again. 😥

[@AyanokoG]

Disgusting

[@ChristineRead-ck1uq]

Dresden happened long after the Luftwaffe had bombed so many UK cities. They bombed York - no military presence there - and Bath, again no military presence. The whole area along the Thames from the estuary to London was known as 'bomb alley' because the Germans would just drop any unlaunched bombs there on their way home. My mother lived there at the time and told us about the bombs that dropped on the streets - including the house she lived in. Her family were then homeless and every one of her siblings was injured in some way during bombing raids. Dresden wasn't 'fire bombed' as you describe. Firstly, it was bombed at the request of the Russians, who were our allies. They asked for it because Dresden was where trains stopped that were loaded with arms and soldiers bound for the Eastern front. Most of the structures in Dresden were wooden, plus there were hardly any shelters for the people to go to. That's why so many buildings caught fire and why 25,000 people died there (not 250, 000 as so many Germans claim). It wasn't the 'disgusting event' you describe at all. It was no different to the raids on London and other towns and cities in Britain. People should remember that 80,000 British people were killed in Luftwaffe raids. Those raids were indiscriminate as were the V1 and V2 bombs that were simply fired into Southern England with no regard as to where they would fall. As for the RAF, they dropped leaflets on German cities first off, warning of what could happen if Germany carried on their activities in taking over other countries. Hitler expected Great Britain to step back and let him get on with taking over Europe, which is why he delayed bombing. What is sickening is that people are trying to make out the Germans were in some way 'innocent'. They were not.

[@juttaweise]

@@ChristineRead-ck1uq your gvt was not innocent either! I specifically name your gvt because those in power are allways the culprits!

[@szecek]

Did your dad saw what Germans did with Warsaw?

[@wilfredwood2636]

Good that's war. And having lived in germany for 6 years and been to these places. No german blames us, they all blame hitler.

[@TPT6148]

And of course it was we who declared war on Germany, not the other way round.

[@VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke]

And France, the UK never declared war on the Soviet Union after she invaded Poland on the 17th September.

Because Germany invaded Poland.

@@VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke The Soviet Union were our allies, why would we declare war on an ally?

[@HeavensGremlin]

Hitler knew FULL WELL that the declaration of war by the Allies was INEVITABLE if he invaded Poland - so he triggered it himself. Do try not to think like a simpleton. Dooooh....!!!!!

[@OlympicLeprechaun]

Which would never have happened if Britain did not repeatedly interfere in German/Polish negotiations over the Danzig issue. Whatever the case, one does not justify the other. Were it not for Imperial hubris history would very likely have recorded the German-Polish war instead of the Second World War. The actions of Britain and France made it a World war.

[@themanwithnoname3636]

If you didn't know this just wait until you learn about WW1.

[@nedeast6845]

really? What do you know?

[@20PhantoM07]

I can’t wait, I’m finding out more and more lies about ww2 so I expect to learn more.

[@toadds]

Correct, read Hidden History, all about Lord Milner etc

[@paulsara9694]

What, the way they treated the Belgians and then did the same thing 25 years later?

[@The0987yuio]

Oy vey...

[@BookimCrocker]

Just imagine if history was recorded accurately, and the needless loss of so many lives exposed.

[@Meatlord69]

Needless? Do you know what a war is? You stupid nazi child.

[@oO-_-_-_-Oo]

"History isnt what happened. History is just what historians tell us" Julian Barnes That said, I dislike very much how they withold, omit or otherwise ignore information about our past.

[@MaisyK]

100% correct Mr Webb - History is a set of lies agreed upon - Napoleon

[@ECA2]

When I was deployed outside of London years ago at RAF Northolt. I was discussing WW2 with a former senior British officer and he informed me about the air raids on Germany before the war started and about indiscriminate night bombing when you couldn't see the target. Many civilian neighborhoods were bombed.

[@kulturfreund6631]

I was born 1966 in Nuremberg. I saw and read a fair amount of quality material (mostly German) on the Nazi-era, but this information never came to my knowledge. Looks like the German political class doesn’t want to capitalize on the wrongdoings or questionable actions by the UK and the USA, in order not to provoke any new conflicts with the Western Allies, or which could disturb the harmonious picture that’s drawn of the US as the "generous liberator" in our schoolbooks. Your podcast reminds me of a talk I had with an English retiree on a camping site cafeteria in Portugal around ten years ago. He served for 12 years on a British submarine before his second career as a real estate agent. He told me that the British were launching gas grenades first in World War I , which had been the opposite of what we Germans get told by our media at home. Thank you for being truthful and objective.

[@sheona7693]

Ave you researched what William Toel has said about the Bletchley Park operation, which took place apart from decoding the Enigma machines. A very eye opening subject.

[@kulturfreund6631]

@ sheona7693 Haven’t heard of William Toel so far. Thanks for the suggestion. There are so many gray areas in the allies’ actions. Many German military experts and secret agents cooperated with US-intelligence entities after the war. Operation >paperclip< in which 1600 rocket scientists and engineers (of which numerous severely breached human rights) were brought to the US and continued their brilliant careers instead of facing trials. Wernher von Braun‘s and some of his top fellows‘ names are attributed to driveways, libraries, laboratories etc. at NASA. There are so many things kept under the rug, even those happening nowadays. The war in Ukraine is one of these highly dubious events. We (the West) are overly concerned with tolerance towards different human ethnicities and all kind of gender stuff and the threat of an upcoming far right extremism, yet we deem it right to support Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in the world, where 11 elected political parties were banned from the parliament and where the Azov batallion as a part of the troops display swastika symbols, and where names like Stepan Bandera and other Jew eliminators from WW2 are officially honored. And of all Israel is an ally of Ukraine, too. This is all totally absurd.

[@ottosturhahn9539]

Germany is still Occupied.

[@helgardhossain9038]

The Allied Forces were also aware that Adolf Hitler didn't die at the end of WWII. But if they would have demanded his and his followers extradition from Argentina, where he resided until his death, they might have provoked a war.

[@paulsara9694]

You lot started it. Twice.

[@pda49184]

My father was a pilot in WW-2.. During my final years at school we were given a modern history project regarding the early years of WW-2 and how it changed peoples lives in England. I asked my Dad about his recollections and he glibly mentioned that the RAF bombed German towns before the Germans bombed our towns & cities. My contribution was about the effects of the 'Blitz' on the civilian population in the worst hit places like London Coventry and Plymouth. I did add that it might have been different had the British not started bombing civilians in Germany, but our teacher skipped over that bit ! He was also a former RAF wartime pilot.. Hmmm !

[@MrDaiseymay]

To use a well known, but none the less relevant saying of those days , Our Bomber's were not only way under powered, and easy targets for the German fighter's, The RAF couldn't hit a barn door with a shovel. Meaning, the Bomb aiming, and radar of the early years were hopelessly ineficient, and most bombs landed miles from their target

[@pda49184]

@@MrDaiseymay From what I was told by someone who was already a pilot in the RAF before 1939, and who had a brother in the 2nd Battalion The Royal Norfolk Regiment. The general state of the equipment in the British armed forces was not very good apart from the Mk lll Lee Enfield Short .303 rifle designed and built in 1907. The German armies equipment was not much better, they just had more troops and equipment in 1939 than we did. My father would agree with your post. It just shows what a resilient group of people we had back then to have turned around our armed forces and their equipment into a war winning machine, with no thanks to most of the politicians of that era..

[@MyCharlie20]

What Simon is saying misses key things out. Yes it might have seemed that way but the bombing was due to Dutch civilian bombing of Rotterdam. What part of air force was your father in. Germany DID start it.... They were bombing our allies. This guy hasn't got a clue what he's talking about

[@pda49184]

@@MyCharlie20 I see your point, but I don't think Simon wanted to get into the minutia of the then European theatre of war. The point he made about the RAF bombing German civilian infrastructure before the Luftwaffe started bombing English towns and cities. Taken in isolation, this is a fact. My father flew in bomber command and he knew this fact as well as all the other Luftwaffe raids on "European" allies. Prior to the the Luftwaffe bombing raids on British civilian infrastructure, they only went for military targets in England. Nobody is saying that Germany didn't start WW-ll .

[@rob5197]

​@@MyCharlie20what's the use of alliances ( nato) other than make a localised conflict into a world war ? - - alliances have never prevented wars far from it

[@babylonsburning1]

Let's not forget that Britain declared war on Germany, Germany didn't declare war on Britain.

[@Occident.]

Do you nose at whose request?

Germany started the war by invading Poland, knowing that would mean war with France and Britain. Germany had previously signed a non-aggression pact with Poland.

[@archiebald4717]

Quite right too.

[@LouiseOC1]

Then Hitler shouldn’t have invaded Poland after agreeing not to. He knew what the consequences would be.

[@archiebald4717]

@@LouiseOC1 Do the countries which were invaded by the nazis, care who bombed first? I certainly don't, though correcting a bit of misinformation is never a bad thing.

[@markgadsby5568]

The more I hear, the more I question whether we were goodies at all!

[@giorgiomontresor8172]

It Is very strange listening to a UK citizen telling the thru story about the WW II bombing!!!

[@neinnein9306]

Why not?... 90% of Germans can tell you the Horrors Germany did also. The other 10% are idiots.

[@careyroberts3924]

Well said. People are also completely unaware that "International jewry" (i.e. the jews) declared war on Germany in 1933. In addition, people need to know about the Danzig massacres, i.e. The cold blooded murder/butchery in the streets of ethnic Germans by the bolshoveiks in the Danzig region of "Poland" (which was German prior to being given to Poland after WW1 as part of the Versailles treaty) immediately prior to the Germans invading Poland...Much of what "mainstream history" tells us are lies/fabrication of truths/omission of facts....

[@isengard1500]

Is it really? Does that justify starting a world war? Did you know who killed most Germans? Hitler!

[@HuHWhat-yi8cp]

@Carey. Also of note is that the poles after the pogroms moved into the homes of the German families they had butchered...thus not only taking their lives but all their worldly possessions also...

[@Occident.]

Danzig was 96% German in 1939. Yet the Alies give it to Poland.

[@HuHWhat-yi8cp]

@@Occident. Interesting demographics in the room at Versailles that day.

[@MarkJones-ji8fd]

How tf did this get past the censors??? I've made way more benign comments that get removed

[@pcojedi]

I have a minor in history and most of my classes were military. I have one of the largest military history libraries of anyone I know and it was about three years ago I looked at the bombing dates and realized England bombed Germany months before the Germans retaliated in kind. What people also fail to realize that with the total destruction of German infrastructure there was no food for the German people past 1945, all people see of Germans at that time were concentration camp survivors. If you had the choice to feed your children or prisoners, we know who would get fed, yet no one blames the allies for the bombings which also affected the concentration camps.

[@seamusweber8298]

My aunts German family were refugees after May 1945. Her father was a Wehrmacht soldier, he was a Lutheran minister, an army chaplain. He disappeared on the Ost front during the fighting there. My aunts family fled East Germany and the invading Soviet forces. They spent three years living in different refugee camps. And endured winter 1947.

[@maxn.7234]

It's hard to find, but there is a 700+ pages report written by the International Red Cross in 1947 which corroborates your view of the camps. I'm reading it now and it blows apart all the post-war propaganda about the camps. Starvation, malnutrition, overcrowding, and disease were the primary causes of death at the end of the war because of the complete destruction of the German transport/supply infrastructure due to Allied bombings and nonstop strafing of trains and trucks.

[@mindsetmatters370]

Well said...The deaths by starvation, [deliberate?] of millions of post-war German civillians is not spoken about. The US/UK & Allies also knew that the majority of deaths in concentration camps were due to the starvation caused by their relentless bombing of German infrastructure. Another very inconvenient post-war fact no one wished to speak about. "Let's find a convenient scapegoat for that horror shall we?" springs to mind.

[@CurCam713]

Thank you. Whenever I've thought about this aspect, I've wondered how many others might have considered the same thing.

[@mbormann6046]

Well they had to make up the fairy tales otherwise post-war guilt would have set in. As the, they deserved it mindset ruled. How do millions of prisoners in camps survive an all-out attempt at extermination? Blame the victim is a classic strategy of one group.

[@Metta33]

Someone obviously wanted us to destroy each other.

[@rosesprog1722]

According to an obscure British historian carrying the name of Robert Crowcroft, on May 25, 1940, just before the evacuation at Dunkirk, Churchill had informed some colleagues and some Germans that if the British Army were allowed to evacuate safely, and Germany did not use France as a spring board to attack Britain, he would “accept” a peace offer. Not consider, but “accept”. After taking walks with the French and sampling the divine nectar for eight months, during the funny phony war, the conflict had finally exploded all over Europe. After Churchill had pushed Chamberlain out of the way and as a reward for his failure at Narvik, had become prime minister, one of his first major decisions was to abandon the French and the Belgians to their own devices, on the beaches, and try to pull out of Europe quietly, and that after only a few days of combat, long before France had fallen. In one of the most secret and explosive documents of the entire war, Churchill telegrammed Lord Gort that: “You are to advance (strange word to mean retreat) to the beaches. You are not to inform the French or the Belgians of what you are doing”. So much for ‘fighting on the beaches’ alongside your allies. This telegram of retreat and deceit had ‘vanished’ from the British archives, but a copy of it was unearthed in French Prime Minister Paul Reynaud’s archives in Paris. It took nine whole days to evacuate the British Army, leaving France and Belgium in the lurch. Clearly, once his troops had 'miraculously' gone home to safety, thank God, let's pray, Hitler had made a million mistakes, letting the Brits go not being one of them, the man came back on his word, spoke of divine intervention, and this episode remains clouded in the typical British habit of creating a victory, from the ashes of a terrible defeat... a great learning opportunity some said. In other words, Churchill had told the Germans: "Don't shoot, we'll talk"... How many lives could have been saved, had he stuck to his word, his worthless word.

[@ubaldobezoari8652]

True. More French soldiers than British died defending the pocket at Dunquerque, and the rest were abandoned by the British boats who left as soon as there were no more Brits to take.

[@rosesprog1722]

@@ubaldobezoari8652 The British did take some French with them but the negotiations were very hard and in the end, 40,000 French were taken prisoners holding back the Germans to allow the British to embark safely. It doesn't change that Churchill had told Lord Gort: "You are to advance to the beaches. You are not to inform the French or the Belgians what you are doing", a first betrayal. Then, after the French had surrendered, Churchill, yeah, him again, sent his fleet at Mers-el-Kebir where part of the French fleet was anchored and told them: "Either you give me your ships, or I destroy them". Of course the French responded "Who the f do you think you are" and in the end, the French ships were sunk and 1,200 French marines were killed, the very men who had helped the British get away at Dunkirk! And then, the British voted that murderer the most best British person who ever lived, ahead of Shakespeare and Newton and all the others. How they could achieve that, I have no idea, an impressive act of collective blindness. Of course, to avoid the citizens from finding out who the dastard really was, a lot of documents had to be destroyed or hidden, that was called "Operation Legacy". They say it was only files related to the colonies... but I don't believe them. There's also "Operation Vegetarian" the dropping of poisoned cattle feed all over Germany... with anthrax, another wonderful Churchill idea. The operation was almost ready to go, only a few details left to settle but D-Day was ready first, so at the last moment, Vegetarian had to be cancelled. The Germans never knew that in fact, D-Day was the best thing that ever happened to them... Cheers.

[@kellybreen5526]

Sounds like he lied to save his country by buying time. I’d say that’s more noble than lying to conquer Europe.

[@ubaldobezoari8652]

@@kellybreen5526 That lying by Churchill cost more than 40,000 lives of French and Belgian soldiers who fought to protect the dunquerque pocket while the British packed their bags and lined up to get on their boats. Once the British were all taken off, the British boats never bothered to take of the french and Belgians who continued to die and get wounded because they thought that they took would be taken off. These actions by Churchill were not noble at all. Deceiving your allies with his plan, and taking advantage of the courage to run away and save yourselves is despicable behaviour, not noble.

[@kellybreen5526]

@@ubaldobezoari8652 Yeah and if Britain had lost the BEF in France how many more lives would that have cost ? Look, my family fought on the war and a few were killed. There is no trying to tell me that we were on the wrong side of things. My uncle liberated Holland and a friends mom was a guest of one of the concentration camps. Churchill and Roosevelt cozied up to Stalin even though they knew about Katyn forest. What would you propose they do? Then wasn’t the time to call Stalin in on his crimes. We had to cooperate to rid the world of something worse. In operation unthinkable Churchill proposed rearming suitably de nazified Germans and attacking the soviets in July 1945. His plan got nixed - big surprise. None of the populations of the US or the commonwealth would have supported it. On a personal note have you ever faced a moral dilemma or had to put up with someone odious because you had a greater mission to fulfill? I don’t love Churchill and there is no doubt he had his share of flaws but really? You honestly think you could have done better? PLEASE!

[@PauloZunguze]

I wonder why i never heard of this story up until now

[@vincekerrigan8300]

Paulo: Why - it is totally irrelevant.

[@raypurchase801]

@@vincekerrigan8300 No. Because it's untrue. The raids against Germany commenced as early as 4th September, but they were against German warships in Kriegsmarine ports. Carried out in daylight to avoid bombing the cities by mistake. Simon has misread a list of target ports and wrongly assumed the raids were against the cities themselves.

[@Second.Coming]

Which is exactly the reason why a certain Tribe should not be in charge of the medea

[@Whitemischief]

A lot of us already have heard because we have watched Europa the last battle ,The greatest story never told & Hellstorm.

[@TheFourthProtocol]

​@@Whitemischief All of which had Zero input from the Little hats.

[@kevinjones3900]

Tricked all of the good men into death and trauma. Leaving us with the soft underbelly. And the fable that these men needed replacing with imports.

[@q1q1q1q1q1q1q1q11]

I sadly came to the same conclusion. I weep for what was lost.

[@Living_Connectedness]

This is one of the most brutally true comments I’ve ever read on yt.

[@Adamantos-Elean]

@@q1q1q1q1q1q1q1q11 that proves it, you are crying after all.

[@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863]

history repeating itself with the ukraine war with russia.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

The link provided in the description as his solely source is a single paragraph FROM WIKIPEDIA saying that RAF bombed German TROOPS, NOT CIVILIANS, during the war while England and Germany were already declared enemies and only FOUR (4) lost their lives. An effective strike to stop the troops. Hitler "unalived" thousands of English CIVILIANS. Fallacy of false equivalency. The attacked lasted ONE day, May 11, 1940, and had nothing to do with German attack on England CIVILIAN centers that lasted EIGHT MONTHS and claimed 43 THOUSANDS English lives. An order explicitly gave by Hitler, after the bombing of BERLIN which was a retaliation after GERMANS bombed CIVILIANS in England supposedly by accident, nothing to do with May 11, to change from military targets to civilian ones to force English people to stop the government during the war but MASSIVELY drew young men to fight against nazi German. Get your facts correctly, notsee boy. ✌🏻🇬🇧✌🏻

[@davidm1149]

More important is for people to know how the war was orchestrated and planned, which is never discussed. Any references to this will become increasingly censored due to people being complacent and complicit in their own enslavement.

[@lesbattersby91]

The bombing issue is important but even more fundamental is the question of why was Britain fighting Germany in the first place? Hitler went to war with Poland to reclaim the German city of Danzig. Britain then declared war on Germany to prevent this. Hitler had no desire to fight Britain & offered peace in 1939 & again in 1940. It was Britain who wanted war.

[@johnweerasinghe4139]

Because a hegemon does not like a peer. Sounds familiar?

[@lesbattersby91]

@@johnweerasinghe4139 The war made Britain a pauper not a ‘peer.’ Going to war to prevent a German city from rejoining Germany was the worst act of national self-destruction in British history.

[@johnweerasinghe4139]

@lesbattersby91 Yes. True . But think sir ... When Britain declared war, it was a peer. AFTER the war, it became a pauper as a consequence. The United States is also following in its footsteps. Actually, Britain's demise began after WW1. There again, it didn't want to accept that Germany was a new peer and chose to try to " contain" it by denying it markets AND then steal its industrial secrets. Until Germany seized its opportunity to break British European hegemony.

[@lesbattersby91]

@@johnweerasinghe4139 yes WW1 was the beginning of the demise, but WW2 destroyed what remained of Britains financial strength. What is still perplexing even after all this time is that Britain started a war with Germany even though it had no prospect of winning in any meaningful sense. The only way it could defeat Germany militarily was by becoming further indebted to the US to the point of becoming a vassal state. War with Germany was going to be a disaster for Britain no matter the outcome, but they did it anyway, jailing people like Mosley without charge for the ‘crime’ of pointing out the folly of starting an unnecessary war from a position of extraordinary weakness.

[@johnweerasinghe4139]

@lesbattersby91 Interesting. You bring a different perspective. I will have to bring up all I've read about WW2 to try to understand if your thesis is correct. I.e. Britain knew it would lose to Germany, but compulsively, for reasons as yet unknown, decided to engage Germany anyway. So your assumption is that British leadership knew it was weak and that Germany was strong. ● population between the 2 countries was somewhat equal. 80 million each. ● A majority of Brtitish military personnel were in the Navy, and with the Germans, a majority were in the Army. At any time, Britain had the ability to embargo Germany, and its alliance with France and Russia could have theoretically at worst inflicted another trench warfare style stalemate I don't see the evidence that in the 1930s , it was clear to Britain that they were weak. ● What I don't comprehend fully is the game in the 30s , England played during the conferences with France & the USSR in getting commitments from Stalin to aid Poland in the event Germany attacked Poland Stalin guaranteed 30 divisions to support Poland but could not get a commensurate commitment re. the number of divisions from France and England. Poland also refused to agree to allow Soviet troops to cross their border to engage the Nazis in the event of a conflict. How dumb was that in retrospect? In the end, Britain sent a low- powered delegation to Moscow BY SEA with no powers to the delegates to conclude the agreement. Stalin was suspicious that Britain was trying to steer Germany toward Russia. The Molotov- Ribbentrop Pact was the consequence. Might have been different if Britain had shown " good faith " vis-a-vis the USSR ● While German victory over Poland was certain victory over France was not. If the original Fall Gelb plan had been followed, there might have been a stalemate WW1 style in France. Hitler rejected that plan and eventually liked Manstein's plan. ● During the war , with the benefit of hindsight, Britain outproduced Nazi armamant production in fighters and bombers. Without a Navy, the Germans couldn't have invaded Britain. Besides there is a school of thought that says Hitler didn't want to invade England , he was quite happy to "let" Britain keep her empire and Operation Sea Lion was nothing but a pretext to move the German troops to the East ostensibly to keep it safe from British bombers 🙂. ● I wondered if the British at first wanted Hitler to attack the USSR ( the country Churchill tried to " strangle at birth " and that when they realized that Germany, with the resources of western Europe , had the potential to indeed annex the USSR ( no western leader believed the USSR was strong ) and together with the oil of Baku and the grain and industrial hub of the donbass, could become as economically powerful as the United States. ● After the US entered the war, the British were far more sophisticated and experienced in military , political & intelligence work and proceeded to dominate American decisions, making much to the chagrin of George C. Marshall. I am pretty sure the Brtish, far from being intimidated by the Americans, grabbed the proverbial bull by the horns and thought they could harness American resources to buttress the goals and needs of the British Empire. In one memorable recorded incident after Operation Torch, Marshall wanted to transfer troops to France and Churchill wanted to divert American forces to Greece and an enraged Marshall is supposed to have yelled " i will not spend one drop of American blood to save the F...ing British Empire.." but British efforts to dominate American affairs continued through Montgomery, whose disdain for American military" prowess" is fairly well -known. British efforts succeeded quite frequently until D Day, when Montgomery almost got fired. I don't think the British thought of themselves as weak. They had the manufacturing, personnel, and food resources from India ( Britain owed India 7 billion Pounds after the war ) and the power to blockade Germany. But it was touch and go. If the Hitler had won Barbarossa he would have broken the British embargo and with a majority of his 11 million army intact , a lead in jet and rocket technology we would have had to wait to see if the US would have succeeded in dropping an atom bomb on Berlin to beat Germany. Something tells me the B29s would not have gotten past the 1200 ME 262s.

[@theoderich1168]

Just keep blaming the Germans for everything, we are strong, we can take it. I'm just glad my parents made it, otherwise I would not be here. My father and all of his family survived dozens (or hundreds) of air raids on Cologne; my mother was a little luckier since bombers mostly just went over Helmstedt on their way to Magdeburg or Berlin without dropping too much of their load.... And I am actually grateful to the makers of "Europa-The Last Battle", "The Greatest Story Never Told", "Hellstorm" and also to Gerard Menuhin for his book "Tell The Truth and Shame The Devil" for their efforts since these informations opened my eyes in certain respects. I haven't been told the truth neither by the historians nor at school - so much is clear. I still don't know the truth I guess and probably we all will have to die ignorant but at least a little less igorant than before.

[@Occident.]

As long as Germany is still occupied you won't get the truth.

[@Porkypies6m]

and dont forget to include Ernest Cellar and Bernard Baruch

[@dennisbronson3058]

I travelled through Europe and Scandinavia as a young fellow ( 1972 ) and I remember going through a city ( if my memory is correct, I think it was a city called 'Bremen' ? ( I could be wrong )) and although this was 27 years after the end of the war........Bremen looked to me as if it had just been bombed a week earlier !!! I also remember one time, hearing Arthur Harris ( the RAF leader ) saying ( in later life ) how shameful the saturation bombings of Germany had been where approximately ' 18 ' million old people and children ( citizens ) had been killed by those needless raids.

[@MrDaiseymay]

ALLOW ME TO EDUCATE YOU. JUST AFTER WW1, THE GERMAN GENERALs , WHO HAD ALWAYS HAD A GREAT DEAL OF POLITICAL SAY. SET ABOUT BUILDING AND PREPARING FOR WHAT BECAME WW2. tHEY HAD SECRET FACTORIES TO BUILD TANKS GUNS AND ALL MANNER OF EQUIPPMENT FOR WAR, AND RECRUITED FOR THEIR NEW ARMY. AND---ALMOST BEYOND BELEIF, THEY DID A DEAL WITH THE NEW COMMUNIST RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT , TO BUILD FACTORY'S THERE, TO TEST, AND MASS PRODUCE, TANKS AND PLANES, ALL ILLEGAL OF COURSE, REGARDING THE VERSAILLIES AGREEMENT. THIS IS LONG BEFORE HITLER GRABBED POWER. not many people know this.

[@martynflynn8368]

@@Porkypies6m And David Irving.

[@alcoholicjoe6199]

As a Brit we should never of got involved in any of the two world wars ...period.

[@Kalfie-yv2ni]

neither should you have started the Anglo-Boer war.

[@MyCharlie20]

Until Germany invaded us with even more power and might

[@MyCharlie20]

​@@Kalfie-yv2niyou? Hahaha guys living centuries after the war. Lol

[@allansmith3837]

You are correct we are still suffering the effects off WW1 to this day in our economy. WW2 was just WW1 part two.

[@avoiceinthewilderness5766]

The Edomites had Britain’s purse and they basically gave them two choices. Bankruptcy or do their bidding.

[@driggo912]

This is exactly what Hitler told in one of his official speeches. He said that he didn't give the order even the Luftwaffe commanders told him to strike back against England. But a raid after raid after raid he had to come into action because he could not remain passive in his position forever. Germany didn't want a war against England but England wanted this war against Germany.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

You're a nazi liar like the 0ldf4rt in the video.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

The link provided in the description as his solely source is a single paragraph FROM WIKIPEDIA saying that RAF bombed German TROOPS, NOT CIVILIANS, during the war while England and Germany were already declared enemies and only FOUR (4) died. An effective strike to stop the troops. Hitler killed thousands of English CIVILIANS. Fallacy of false equivalency.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

The link provided in the description as his solely source is a single paragraph FROM WIKIPEDIA saying that RAF bombed German TROOPS, NOT CIVILIANS, during the war while England and Germany were already declared enemies and only FOUR (4) died. An effective strike to stop the troops. Hitler k¡!!d thousands of English CIVILIANS. Fallacy of false equivalency. The attacked lasted ONE day and had nothing to do with German attack on England CIVILIAN centers that lasted EIGHT MONTHS and claimed 43 THOUSANDS English lives. An order explicitly gave by Hitler himself to change from military targets to civilian ones to force English people to stop the government during the war but MASSIVELY drew young men to fight against nazi German.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

The link provided in the description as his solely source is a single paragraph FROM WIKIPEDIA saying that RAF bombed German TROOPS, NOT CIVILIANS, during the war while England and Germany were already declared enemies and only FOUR (4) lost their lives. An effective strike to stop the troops. Hitler "unalived" thousands of English CIVILIANS. Fallacy of false equivalency. The attacked lasted ONE day, May 11, 1940, and had nothing to do with German attack on England CIVILIAN centers that lasted EIGHT MONTHS and claimed 43 THOUSANDS English lives. An order explicitly gave by Hitler, after the bombing of BERLIN which was a retaliation after GERMANS bombed CIVILIANS in England supposedly by accident, nothing to do with May 11, to change from military targets to civilian ones to force English people to stop the government during the war but MASSIVELY drew young men to fight against nazi German. Get your facts correctly, notsee boy. 🇬🇧✌🏻

[@mhenkelmann11]

In Germany we also get the impression in the media that Germany has started the air war. But by chance I saw a speech by A.H. about the English declaration of war on Germany. The RAF probably attacked Friedrichshafen 2-3 days after the invasion of Poland. That was in September 1939. Why No war declaration on UdSSR?

[@FictionCautious]

History keeps repeating because we keep following the same people. Age of Insanity, fullthrottle.

[@blackprince4074]

We are the sheep fed the same old crap time after time. The Government with the media feed us utter crap.

[@skagamnesia1972]

The greatest story never told is a good documentary, also Hellfire .

[@careyroberts3924]

Europa the Last Battle should also be watched...

[@TheGreatestLieEverTold]

And the secret Masonic victory of World War II.

[@isengard1500]

Good if you want to learn a Nazi Socialist bias; No truth there however, but I guess you have to lie to people so they do and kill innocent people

[@patrickshaw8595]

@@careyroberts3924 So great to be among my based brothers at this time.

[@careyroberts3924]

@@patrickshaw8595 Ditto Brother. Blessings to you and yours...

[@marksellers4875]

I remember being taught that a Luftwaffe raid got lost and bombed London, and in retaliation, the Brits bombed Berlin. The Germans then nearly stopped bombing RAF bases and went for cities. Cost them the Battle of Britan because it took the worst pressure off the RAF. Also cost them the war. That was the turning point to me. You can't leave a giant natural aircraft carrier right off your coast and expect to win! War, having already been declared, how does this matter? Bombing civilian targets is wrong no matter who does it. Or why.

[@_Healing_Spirit_]

Germanys biggest mistake was to show mercy to France in 1871, decades later France didnt show any mercy to Germany during treaty of Versailles 1919 and occupation of Ruhr 1923

[@carloslx]

History has always been rewritten to serve a specific agenda... time after time.

[@caobita]

🎯

[@MrAstro3]

Actually, I tell this story quite well in my book, 'How Britain Initiated both World Wars.'

[@MyCharlie20]

Laughable for ww2

[@MyCharlie20]

He's wrong see my comments

[@davidbrims5825]

I’ve got the book and I liked your interview with Bishop Williamson !

[@Harith-le5iq]

@@MyCharlie20if only you knew..

[@officeimpact6377]

​@@MyCharlie20keep sleeping

[@eastafrika728]

Entitlement, Germany came to realize how wicked England was.

[@compass5507]

Dresden...one of the greatest unrecognized crimes against humanity.

[@ohno467]

Mr moustache is the most lied about person in history

[@roboi2241]

I've always found most of the biographies on Charlie Chaplin to be quite thorough and well researched.

[@isengard1500]

He isn’t, you just can’t be arsed to do proper research

[@ohno467]

​@@isengard1500ah yes because the victors are absolutely honest about everything, our country is falling apart as a result of this stupid war that we didn't need to get involved in

[@denischarette-de3te]

@@ohno467 Indeed, and the state of the U.K. and Europe in general would be completely different (a lot better) if these two wars had not happened.

[@jeremyboughtono2]

He was a dangerous psychopath.

[@MrSteve_Luddite.]

Why have we been lied to all of our lives ? I suppose we should never forget that history is written by the Victors.

[@MyCharlie20]

We haven't been lied to on this read my timeline. He's missing critical info

[@MrSteve_Luddite.]

​@@MyCharlie20I think I'll trust Simon before you if that's Ok.

[@MyCharlie20]

@@MrSteve_Luddite. 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂 You haven't even read my comments. Has Simon ever met or interviewed bomber command. No. You know nothing about me. I am more qualified than him as I have interviewed bomber command.... Read my timeline. You haven't even read it

[@RippDrive]

​@@MyCharlie20you don't even have any videos on your channel.

[@WaffenSSTotenkopf]

Why? So you would feel ashamed about being a evil European lol, so "they" could orchestrate our ethnic replacement without any real resistance, while they tell you about the poor j3ws in Germany and muh evil German Nationalists mongering for war, and not all their actual peace offers etc.

[@lawLess-fs1qx]

can you do a piece about Sir Henry Strakosch and his payments to Churchill to drag Britain into the war.

[@danielcalderwood6674]

I doubt it. It would involve showing up his favourite demographic in a negative light.

[@Occident.]

Oy vey.

[@patrickshaw8595]

@@Occident. They are constantly telling us they were prosecuted - but never what for.

[@EnglishShieldwall]

And Robert Waley Cohen! Make a video on the focus group Simon.

[@mikebellis5713]

Thank you for this. And Churchill is still revered

[@Mr.McWatson]

"They started it" is often the justification for Dresden, which seems like a very indefensible act seeing as Dresden was not a strategic target and even had an allied POW camp just outside the city.

[@mikecain6947]

Thank you. Once again the truth that no-one else tells.

[@rjones6219]

Many years ago, I read a book titled "The Night Hamburg Burned". It was a harrowing read.

[@ottosturhahn9539]

This was the Bombing that they referred to when Bombing other Cities. They called it Hamburgerisation. This is where the Name Hamburger Came from. The Germans had no Hamburgers like Mac Donalds. These Buerger were call Frikadellen or Buletten. The Hamburgers were the Citizens of Hamburg. Look it up on pre 1940 Encyclopedias.

[@Lilym661]

All my life I have felt awful about Dresden. Why did we do it?

[@Occident.]

Slaughtered 300.000 fellow Saxons for the money power and the Bolsheviks .

[@patrickshaw8595]

Because their is too much little hat influence in America. ANY of their shit is too much.

[@careytitan9097]

The bombing of Dresden was a joint British and American aerial bombing attack on the city, Britain was not alone in the bombings. World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. An estimated total of 70-85 million people perished, or about 3% of the estimated global population of 2.3 billion in 1940. Maybe for the tens of millions of deaths caused by Germany?

[@HiNickCares]

Dresden was a major rail transport hub.

[@vincekerrigan8300]

Patriciabland. Dresden was a legitimate military target at that stage of the war due to the final assault on Berlin needing to be prosecuted without interference. It was not the deliberate attack to massacre civilians that the holier than thou Brit. haters would have you believe. All the accounts of the affair have been deliberately exaggerated, to perpetuate the slur that the Allies committed a war crime, an assertion originally aired to try to mitigate the crimes of the Nazis by claiming a false equivalence. The original account of the death toll wildly inflated the numbers for propaganda purposes, with figures of well over 200,000 being bandied about, and still being quoted by those with an axe to grind. The actual final assessment, established through a lengthy enquiry set up in 2004 by the Dresden Local Authority itself, concluded that the actual death toll was between about 22,000 to 25,000. A high figure admittedly, but this was probably largely contributed to by the fact that the Authorities had provided no civilian air raid shelters. Why is it that the Allies are always the bad guys. Does it never occur to their detractors, that if the Luftwaffe had had, in 1940, the bombing power of the Allies in 1945, they would not have held back. They would have obliterated large areas of the country, and wiped out a large proportion of the population right at the start. Still, as the Germans would have done it, that would have been OK, I guess.

[@TrogART]

I remember my father telling me how horrified he was at the devastation at Dresden, he had to land there at one stage after the war. It was permanently imprinted in his mind. He was an RAF officer in the VIP squadron at that time, transporting the likes of Churchill and Montgomery and many others around.

[@LegaliseFinland]

What an absolute gem of a channel I have found thanks to the youtube algorithm

[@teutonicAnon]

Just read David Irvings - Apocalypse 1945; The Destruction of Dresden

[@brianperry]

Yeah right, the same bloke who said the systematic murder of jews never happened...

[@turtleman5111]

My father was involved in that, as a tail gunner on a B-24. The only thing he ever told me about it was- You didn't need a map to find the place! He would have been 100 in '22. But, I've heard that Churchill did it for fun.

[@kensummers7757]

Let’s NOT read that lying , Nazi loving son of a bitch!

[@chrisb2942]

Irving is a well known Holocaust denier. There are for sure better books to the subject out there.

[@juttaweise]

I forgot about Irving so I had to look him up. On the internet they describe him in not such a positiv light.

[@malaikamalaika3139]

Thank you sir, for shedding a light on our history. With love from the occupied Netherlands.

[@Occident.]

Greetings from occupied Britain. 👋

[@jasperchance3382]

Hello clown!

[@rosemarymccarron3887]

So glad to know the truth is coming out.

[@nematolvajkergetok5104]

Oh, tell us about this. Hungary has been long dubbed "the last ally of Nazi Germany", "a fascist satellite", etc., mostly by Leftists, because we "attacked" the USSR. In fact we didn't partake in Operation Barbarossa when it started, and stayed neutral, despite very heavy German pressure. Then the Soviets bombed our city of Kassa, and their fighters strafed a passenger train on Hungarian territory. Of course, this led to war. For the next 40 years, the Communists went overboard to spread a conspiracy theory, claiming that it was a false flag operation by the Germans. Even that the Hungarian government knew about it in advance. In fact, the government absolutely hated the Nazis, and even banned National Socialist parties.

[@lordbeermonster]

Churchill wanted to bomb Europe with a plague of anthrax. He subsequently wanted to detonate several nuclear bombs in Yorkshire. David Irving's book on the lunatic is a fascinating read.

[@thehound9638]

Don't be so fucking stupid!

[@talbenavraham1478]

Why would Churchill want to drop atom bombs in Yorkshire? Britain didn't have their own bomb until years after ww2,before that, they were all American.

[@scotland638]

David Irving is a Holocaust denying lunatic.

[@jimmycampbell78]

The historian who claimed this about the proposed Yorkshire nuclear testing plan in the 1950s is Mike Covell. The Daily Express and the Daily Mail then carried this claim. Covell also write books about ghosts and houses being haunted. Do double-check your sources.

[@Clive697]

Absolutely true. Gruinard Island NW of the Scottish mainland was heavily contaminated by anthrax spores for decades after the 1942-3 testing of bioweapons there.

[@felixculpa3520]

Western historians (for similar reasons) often seem to forget the French attacks on German territory before the Blitzkreig, as well. Similarly, Czechs don't speak about pre-war anti-German pogroms, and Poles do not talk about the pre-war massing of Polish troops on the German border. I'm not saying that the Nazis were fine people, just that none of WWII history is simple or clear and all of it has been subjected to agitprop and revision... -- meow.

[@williamtell6750]

Not to forget the pre-war anti-german pogroms in Poland.

[@Clive697]

@@williamtell6750 The mass-murder of ethnic Germans by Poles at the end of WW2 is also conveniently forgotten by most histories, as is Poland's annexation of part of Czechoslovakia at the time the Germans helped themselves to portions of the country. The victim narrative only applies to certain peoples.

[@kylethedalek]

@@Clive697bDidnt that happened before WWII?

[@Clive697]

@@kylethedalek There was retaliation - with some justification - against ethnic Germans just before the Red Army liberated Poland. I've read of 200,000+ murders of officials and civilians. There's a video of an excavation of a mass grave of some of these people on YT somewhere and wikipedia has an article 'Flight & Expulsion of Germans, 1944-45' which covers this little-known feature of the war.

[@HuHWhat-yi8cp]

@@williamtell6750 Danzig Corridor.

[@Bobo-ml4th]

Great britain still intrigues around the whole world, not caring about the consequences.

[@NikolausFedermann-im5nf]

Thank you very much for telling the truth!

[@willemvanaswegen1937]

The same in the First World War, America entered the war when Germany sank the passenger RMS Lusitania. The fact that the ship carried armor that was forbidden was only discovered recently.

[@victornewman9904]

"Armor"?: amour or armour?

[@rogermellie8068]

It was the British who sank the Lusitania. They badly needed the Americans to enter the war.

[@jimbyrne2328]

America entered WW1 to save Britain and France from defeat. The Bankers brought America in to the War in exchange for Palestine from the British. Check out the Balfour Declaration of 1917. The answer is in who the letter is addressed to.

[@maxn.7234]

@@victornewman9904 Arms. The Lusitania was indeed a registered warship carrying arms and munitions.

[@victornewman9904]

@rogermellie8068 unlikely. Tha Americans had bet on the Allies by lending them money to finance the war. They had to come in at some point or lose all their money if the Germans won. That's why they only participated in the last few months of the war Fortunes were made in the US as a result.

[@richardhale9664]

Reading the history of both WWI and II, it is hard not to come to the conclusion that the British elites were compelled by some strange need to fight everybody else's war, beggaring the nation in the process and leading to the terrible disaster of de facto US empire across much of the world. In both cases there was no strategic need to be involved in either war. The Royal Navy was large and powerful enough to defend our shores and overseas interests. Certainly, we did nothing in WWII that actually alleviated the suffering of any of the nations invaded by either the hideous Soviet or Nazi German regimes. Arguably we made things much worse for Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania and Yugoslavia than if we had never got involved in the first place, as these countries suffered under the stifling oppression of communism for over 40 years, foisted upon them by our egregious alliance with Stalin. We are still paying the price of this today through the mass migration of residents of these countries to the UK following their entry into the EU.

[@seraphimk3132]

It's a mystery, truly, as to where from this ' compulsion,' to self annihilate came from..... bewitching almost. A hidden hand, one might say...

[@jrobertsoneff]

If Russia was allowed in the Munich agreement the war would not have started.

[@reinhardt3090]

Who gave Churchill the money to pay off his personal debts?

[@nedeast6845]

I can't find anything to disagree with in what you say

[@rewdwarf123]

Goes back a long time. Like fighting two wars in the 18th century over royal disputes in Spain and Austria. Then fighting against Napoleonic France. Then fighting Russia in the Crimea because of Turkey.

[@rogerclyde2720]

Britain and France declared War on Germany first, because Germany quit paying reparations to France, Britain.

[@randomguy9830]

No, it was because Germany and Soviets took Poland, because they refused to stop Genociding Germans in Danzig. All was orchestrated by British who promised protection to Poland, but they never protected it from the Comm unists !!!!

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Germany invaded our ally Poland.

[@stephengilbert8166]

Yeah I`ve been aware of this fact all my life. Nice to hear it finally voiced :-))

[@brianhayes4827]

History is always written by the victors.

[@georgesdelatour]

1) Thucydides was an ancient Athenian historian. His History of the Peloponnesian War is considered one of the greatest books of history ever written. It describes in detail the war his Athens LOST against Sparta. The victorious Spartans did not write any histories of the conflict. 2) The Barbarians overwhelmed and conquered the Western Roman Empire in the 5th century. They didn’t write any hagiographic histories of their conquests. Our main historical sources were written by those they defeated. 3) The Anglo Saxons invaded and settled England in the 5th and 6th centuries. But they didn’t write about their conquests. Our best contemporary source is St Gildas’s “De Excidio et Conquestu Britanniae”. Like Thucydides, Gildas was on the losing side in the conflict. 4) The Arab conquests of the 7th century are truly remarkable, resulting in the total defeat of the Persian Empire, and the near total defeat of the Byzantine Empire. But the victorious Arabs wrote down almost nothing about their campaigns, and our main sources for the period come from those they defeated. 5) One of the most dramatic conquests in world history was that of Genghis Khan and the Mongols. Almost all the written sources we have are from the people Khan’s armies attacked and defeated, not from the Mongols themselves.

[@StephenODonoghue-fn4lx]

That’s incorrect. History is always written by the Jews.

[@MarkJones-ji8fd]

It's written by the 4x2s

[@martynflynn8368]

@@MarkJones-ji8fd Ha ha, 4x2's , I like that one, haven't come across that expression before, gonna start using that one, thanks.

[@martynflynn8368]

@@georgesdelatour If he had stated that "History is always written by the parties who profit/gain most from wars" There would have been no need for you to waste your time on deflecting.

[@noahwail2444]

On september 4. 1939, my hometown of Esbjerg got attacked by a Vickers Wellington. It is a matter of chance I am writing this, my mother was about 150 meters from where one of the bombes destoyed the house of one of her friends´ houses. The pilot thourght he was bombing Brunsbüttel, a couple of hundred kilometers south of Esbjerg, where the Kielerkanals western end is.

[@christopherdenniston9013]

The Germans bombed Neutral Dublin several times, mistaking it for Liverpool, even though there's a sea between them

[@apathyintheuk265]

@@christopherdenniston9013 Although it doesn't seem appropriate - There's a joke in there somewhere.

[@krazytroutcatcher]

The Vickers wellington, a medium bomber designed for bombing ‘European’ targets, specification number B9/32 which means the requirements for the design were made before the rise of the Austrian man.

[@user-iz1hd9si3m]

@@krazytroutcatcher War related civil defence arrangements were launced no later than his being appointed Chancellor.

[@jeffholt9437]

​@@apathyintheuk265"Better Sign Posts" but you're probably right.....😊

[@andreheck9545]

At the Nürnberg war court, no German was accused because of bombing (English) cities, as a war crime. Knowing that UK and USA had bombed some German cities nearly to ruins, aiming civilians. Same as Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[@Plexpara]

The French marched into Germany before ww2. Poland attacked German Planes and civilistes before ww2. But they dont tell you that cause the winner make the History.

[@danielmeier8321]

The poles blocked every entrance for us germans into Danzig, starving the civilians there! I don't say that everything that followed was right, but they had it coming!

[@Frosty1979]

Even if things aren't as black and white as it is taught mostly, as Germans we can't deny that we were the main force responsible for the war. Hitler as the leader was simply way too radical (and definitely evil) for any chance of a lasting peace in Europe.

[@Meatlord69]

So you say that you really like nazis for some reason?😂😂

[@Plexpara]

@@Meatlord69 So you try to tell me you love little teen Girls?

[@SETHREN1]

@@danielmeier8321 mein got... idiots are everywhere...

[@williamryan1984]

The Victorious Side always writes History

[@jasperchance3382]

Because the loser side doesn't make any. It's logic.

[@Kalfie-yv2ni]

as Churchill confessed: " We killed the wrong pig"

[@KJ-md2wj]

As if he didn't know why and that it was intentional to destroy an economic rival forever. All empires used the Roman playbook.

[@rickyp6815]

no he didn't. he didn't believe that and never said it.

[@jimbobjimjim6500]

As if he could have done it without the help of the other "pig'...more Anglo propaganda... loud mouth, Anglo, Patton, said something similar...

[@arminiusdergrosse]

Churchill literally scuttled the British Empire to prop up the Soviet Union and to annihilate Europe.

[@kuntakinte2290]

he did say that in another context, Gen .Patton meant it though

[@xispaster]

Cambridge historian Peter Martland told the Guardian. "Mussolini was paid 100 pounds a week from the autumn of 1917 for at least a year to keep up the pro-war campaigning - equivalent to about 6,000 (6,440 euros, 9,600 dollars) pounds a week today." Martland made the discovery as he studied papers belonging to Sir Samuel Hoare, MI5’s man in Rome at the time, who was in charge of some 100 British intelligence officers in Italy.

[@bhangrafan4480]

As a historian you might look at another similar item: that the war in North Africa began when the Italians attempted to invade Egypt in September 1940. My understanding is though, that the British carried out a series of provocative attacks on Libya from June 1940, obviously intended to provoke the Italian invasion.

[@billlansdell7225]

Your understanding is wrong.

[@bhangrafan4480]

@@billlansdell7225 So did the British NOT carry out attacks on Italian Libya from June 1940?

[@billlansdell7225]

@@bhangrafan4480 I said your understanding was wrong. Mussolini wanted a Second Roman Empire and made no secret of the fact. He also wanted to conquer Egypt to connect his colonies in East Africa with Libya. He said he wanted a few thousand Italian dead to be able to sit at the conference table with Hitler. The Italians moved tens of thousands of troops from West Libya to the Egyptian border, ready for Operation E, and when Graziani didn't invade, he was called back to Italy for a dressing down by Mussolini who ordered him to attack the British in front of him. British attacks on the assembling Italian army were part of a deception plan to make the Italians believe they were much stronger than they were, with the aim of delaying the Italian invasion until reinforcements could arrive. The idea that this was a provocation or started the conflict is absurd and historically ignorant in the extreme. Besides, Italy had declared war on Britain, taken part in the Battle of Britain and already invaded Somaliland the month before Operation E, and Anglo-Egyptian Sudan the month before that... which was June.

[@fieryflowergirl5095]

@@billlansdell7225 all roads lead to Rome. People need to look more into what I would call the Italian Job.

[@flan1916]

David Irvine can tell people all they need to know about ww2 he's probably the best historian on it bar none, look him up

[@Occident.]

Check out his book "Uprising" too. About Hungarian uprising of 1956. Brilliant.

[@flan1916]

I will thanks.

[@nickbaxter8797]

Irving is a well known Nazi and Holocaust denier. No more need be said about him.

[@FirstLast-ve6jg]

It's spelt Irving and he has some good books on Focal Point publications.

[@simonwoods8809]

He's right on much but even he makes statements which one can disagree with. He believes the Germans were murdering Jews on the Eastern Front for example for which there is no evidence in terms of a systematic genocidal programme. Nonetheless he is a damn sight more right than the official narrative.

[@keithskegwin]

Sshhh. Don't mention the war. I learnt this version right up to the end of my history degree, but Im open minded enough to consider the alternative, especially given all the lies constantly fed to me through governments, media and education.

[@kuntakinte2290]

the British concentration camps in Kenya shortly after WW2 also never made it into history books 🧐

[@Marcfj]

Also, it should be noted that France attacked Germany first in what is known as the "Saar Offensive."

[@d.k8746]

Bombing cities as a means of waging total war had already become an accepted strategy among the members of Britain’s “war party.” Britain began developing and building long range, heavy bombers as early as 1933. The United States did the same. The Lancaster, the B17 and the B24 were built for no purpose except to destroy cities and inflict massive casualties on the German population. Military operations require small, fast, “tactical” planes. Thousand plane armadas of four-engine, heavy “strategic” bombers had no military purpose. Colonel (later Brigadier General) Robin Olds, a highly respected officer and USAF fighter pilot who served in both WWII and Vietnam, stated more than once that the so-called strategic bombing program was ineffective, wasteful and pointless. It is generally acknowledged today that the strategic bombing program did not shorten the war by a single day, and that in the end, it served no military purpose. After all, Germany reached her highest level of war production in the last months of the war when the bombing was most intense. Colonel Olds, among many others, was of the opinion that fighter bombers carrying a single bomb flying low and fast would have been far more effective against German military and strategic targets. He said that a single Mustang could have dropped a five hundred pound bomb through the window of any factory in Germany. It was impossible to hit a factory with a huge formation of bombers flying at 25,000 feet without destroying everything for miles around it. He also emphasized that this would have greatly minimized civilian casualties. Perhaps the colonel was naive. Perhaps he did not understand that the very purpose of “strategic bombing” was to maximize civilian casualties. In a word, the purpose of “strategic bombing” was genocide!! While Britain and the United States were building thousands upon thousands of four-engine, long range, heavy bombers, designed for no other purpose than the destruction of cities and the slaughter of massive numbers of civilians, Germany built only light, maneuverable, low altitude bombers designed for ground support. These planes were unsuitable for genocidal terror bombing. H only undertook the bombing of British civilian targets reluctantly, three months after the RAF began a campaign of carpet bombing German cities. H would have been willing at any time to stop the slaughter. Churchill’s War Cabinet adopted the Lindemann Plan in March, 1942, which then became Britain’s official policy. This decision of the War Cabinet was kept a closely guarded secret from the British public throughout the war and for many years afterwards. The British people were told that only military and industrial targets were bombed, and any damage beyond that was unintentional. The true nature of British bombing of German cities and civilians was revealed in 1961 in a book titled Science and Government by the physicist and novelist, Sir Charles Snow. The following passage from the book was immediately translated and published in several languages: “Early in 1942 Professor Lindemann, by this time Lord Cherwell and a member of the Cabinet, laid a cabinet paper before the Cabinet on the strategic bombing of Germany. It described in quantitative terms the ef ect on Germany of a British bombing of ensive in the next eighteen months (approximately March 1942-September 1943). The paper laid down a strategic policy. The bombing must be directed essentially against German working-class houses. Middle-class houses have too much space round them and so are bound to waste bombs; factories and “military objectives” had long since been forgotten, except in of icial bulletins, since they were much too dif icult to find and hit. The paper claimed that-given a total concentration of ef ort on the production and use of aircraft-it would be possible, in all the larger towns of Germany (that is, those with more than 50,000 inhabitants), to destroy 50 per cent of all houses.”

[@Chrisst1961]

Very one-sided account. Perhaps you could also list everything done by the other side.

[@patrickshaw8595]

What a windbag of erroneous information you are!

[@d.k8746]

Could talk about the german and italian warcrimes (the many real ones, not the propaganda Bs) as from the first moment they did a lot and it only became worse with the war continuing as it did. Unfortunatelly however even if everything was true to its full extent it would not compare to alloed crimes and the cruelty and inhumanity shown to the germans by the allies during and after the war. the post is pasted from brenton l bradberrys book "the myth of german villainy chapter 21. the allied goal :destruction of germany"

[@danielcalderwood6674]

Comment deleted.

[@d.k8746]

not my post its from a (great) book by brenton bradberry. the big crimes and aggresive war was done by the allies so its more pressing than the german and italian crimes (the real crimes not the bs) . the germans clearly were magnitudes better than the allies.

[@titusrsouls]

Thank=you Simon you are a breath of fresh air and truth

[@raypurchase801]

Actually, on this ONE occasion, Simon is talking absolute bull poo poo.

[@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb]

You are very kind!

[@Chrisst1961]

@@raypurchase801 On 18 December 1939, 12 out of 22 Wellingtons were shot down by German fighters on a raid against shipping off Wilhelmshaven.

[@drstrangelove4998]

@@raypurchase801not if you know your history Ray…

[@raypurchase801]

@@Chrisst1961 Correct. The FIRST raid against Germany was a mixed force of Wellingtons and Blenheims on 4th September 1939. The raid was against German Kriegsmarine vessels in a port. The raid wasn't on the city itself. The RAF suffered unsustainable casualties because they were raiding without an escort in daylight, to avoid civilian casualties in the city itself. It's clear from your knowledge that you know the Wellingtons all had to be withdrawn from service for a few weeks, to receive extra armour and self-sealing fuel tanks. I HUGELY respect Simon, but on this occasion he's read a list of targets and mistakenly assumed the targets were the cities themselves.

[@landaucorl5390]

The thing is ... when war breaks out, 'alea iacta est', 'winner takes it all', 'the first casualty of war is truth', etc. The problem is, it seems the war did not end. WW2 had 3 parties and it still continues to this day.

[@victorkuhn7974]

Allies fought for their own downfall decades later. They trusted the wrong elites. A senseless downfall of a once so cultural rich Europe of wonderful people.

[@MaggieNevin-tv3ib]

Just shows that few of us will ever be taught the truth of the past.

[@raypurchase801]

Actually, our much-loved Simon has himself got it completely wrong on this one occasion.

[@meestermeesterhastings.3159]

But Basil said "you bombed Poland you started it"...

[@jeremyboughtono2]

Indeed the first mass bombing of civilians in WW2 was done by Germany in Poland.

[@EricaMTB]

I think he got away with it

[@adelwulf8864]

Germany and Russia both invaded Poland. Britain and France only declared war on one.

[@Johnarry]

Don't mention the war.

[@HIERONYMAS]

Every comment here is repeating information gleaned from controlled media. Simple fact, Germany didn’t want or start WWII. Same story for WWI

[@billyholiday4947]

I stopped watching your channel way back but i will now resume!

[@fieryflowergirl5095]

I did too but this was sent to me. I watched but I think bait and switch. I could be wrong.....

[@fosterkennel649]

Just one of many myths regarding World War 2 and after. Another wonderful video. Blessings to you and yours coming at you from southern oregon

[@frankielov]

All explained in a ten part hidden history documentary on this subject the Raw Truth. Europa The Last Battle.

[@garycard1456]

I've watched it over and over. Highly recommended.

[@careyroberts3924]

As Gary says below- HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. Europa the Last Battle can be watched on a website called Internet Archive. EVERYONE should make the effort...You will fall off your chair!

[@jeremyboughtono2]

Its a vile piece of racist clap trap.

[@user-sh2xw7gm8r]

Me to, changed my life forever.

[@jeremyboughtono2]

@@user-sh2xw7gm8r You are now on a watch list.

[@Lensman864]

A good pub quiz question is: "What were the dates that Germany declared war on Britain in WWI & WWII?" It's a trick question of course.

[@coventrypunx1014]

It’s like the soldiers from France that are taking over the U.K . France or the U.K have not officially declared war on each other . But it’s obvious that the Non Islamic u.K citizens Are suffering

[@alanmarr3323]

Anyone who can't answer that is an ignoramus !

[@Chrisst1961]

@@alanmarr3323 Have a go then.

[@drstrangelove4998]

They didn’t declare war on the UK if course, we declared war in them, in both occasions.

[@jeremyboughtono2]

Yawn.

[@Kededian]

The victor writes the history books..

[@alfrede.neumann671]

"Are we the baddies?"

[@ron88303]

Depends on who you ask.

[@simonmilligan7497]

I think some context here might be useful. In April 1937 the Spanish town of Guernica, held by government forces, was bombed by German and Italian planes supporting Franco's Nationalist rebels. Between 150 and 1,650 people died. Between September 1st and September 25th 1939 Warsaw was bombed repeatedly by the Luftwaffe, killing perhaps as many as 7,000 people. On May 13th, 1940, the Luftwaffe bombed Rotterdam, killing over a thousand people. According to Anthony Beevor in his classic account of the Battle of Stalingrad, as many as 40,000 people may have died in a week when the Germans bombed the city in August 1942 - although Richard Overy has challenged this figure The Germans didn't learn how to bomb cities from the British.

[@kylethedalek]

So who started the fighting?

[@oyvey304]

@@kylethedalek When we started rubbing our hands.

[@kylethedalek]

@@oyvey304Well obviously not is they were bombing other countries before WWII started.

[@ant7936]

Your red herrings don't detract from the facts stated above.

[@alanmarr3323]

The British of course in the 1920s bombed and used poison gas on the civilian population in Iraq!

[@nicomeier8098]

"The victor writes history".

[@rburrows7786]

Just subscribed. Refreshing to see someone reporting actual facts and not the rewriting of history

[@powerplay8355]

Wow, you're such a brave person to shed light on this matter.