"They were really out-played by Australia" | Nasser, Atherton & Key Review Adelaide Test | Vodcast

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Rob Key, Nasser Hussain, Mike Atherton & Ian Ward react to Australia's 275 wicket victory over England in the second test of the Ashes series in Adelaide.
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[@IncredibleMet]

Apart from the bowling, batting, fielding and decision-making, England aren’t far off challenging Australia for a decent draw.

[@bksundar]

Welcome to the world of Zimbabwe , Kenya, Madagascar, USA, Scotland, Ireland, Hong Kong, Bermuda , China , Netherlands teams

[@rajryder666]

Lol 🤣

[@rodneyngulube7444]

Nah mate ! Aussies are jus a bit better currently ... Comparing to the Poms

[@hulk8384]

@@bksundar 🤣🤣🤣

[@peternagy-im4be]

@@bksundar Cuba would beat this England team and that is no joke.

[@mmjose76]

As a neutral viewer, I wonder why all commentators play down Dawid Malan's contributions. He has consistently been England's second best batsman except on rare occasions when Buttler does well.

[@renaissancematt6897]

He's had 2 good knocks this tour but he does only average 30 in test cricket

[@bobagorof]

@@renaissancematt6897 2 good knocks is a lot more than most of the other English batters this series though. Topping the batting averages with 47, with Root the next best at 43.75. After that, it's Woakes with 26.25. I suppose not being mentioned amongst the English batting failures is actually high praise.

[@mmjose76]

@@renaissancematt6897 For god's sake...even Ollie Pope has played more tests and averages less than Malan! I'm reminded of the first part of Mike Hussey's career when I look at Malan.

[@renaissancematt6897]

@@bobagorof yeah I agree, he's alot better than the rest. My position is more around lets not heap aload of praise on him just yet. He was good in the last series down under as well, his game suits it well being strong square of the wicket. Lets see an extended run in the team and see if he can maintain that average or will we be talking about him struggling after next summer 👍

[@renaissancematt6897]

@@mmjose76 Did I mention or even compare him to Pope? Pope has played 3 more tests and averages about 1 run less. (I think Pope should be swapped for Lawrence btw). He has certainly played very well but I just think its abit early to be heaping praise on him after 2 50s. He himself even said he should have gone on for a big score when he was set! Lets see if he keeps it up hes not been back in the team for long and isn't carrying the baggage some of the rest maybe👍

[@jaymeepen]

Poor old Malan. I was quite disappointed they didn’t give him some praise for being our top run scorer. They mentioned a few times that only Stokes and Root would have a right to feel hard done by getting dropped but I definitely think the same about Malan. Is he just not very popular or something?!

[@SilentHotdog28]

No he was definitely a good performer for England and should hold his head high. In the 1st test he scored 6+82=88 (1 behind Root) 2nd Test 80+20=100 (14 ahead of Root) He has been their best run scorer.

[@darshang1262]

He is not British so he is been overlooked

[@narharchandurkar4318]

@@darshang1262 He is a britisher who went to south africa for just some time

[@mrkipling2201]

Malan has been one of the few batsmen who’s actually played well. Ok he shouldn’t have played at that ball in the 2nd innings but other than that he’s been good. The frustrating thing was that in the first test, Root and Malan had done the hard part on the 3rd day and then we threw it away.

[@ashagg12oct]

Root Stokes Malan and to some extent Buttler were England's saving grace in the batting. Rest all appalling.

[@apurbadas6539]

Nasser & Athers are like beautiful melodies, u always love to listen to them. No matter which match they r analysing or commentating they r just so so good to hear.

[@anonymous.7244]

specially Michael Atherton

[@dineshkerai]

Sky sports need too win back the Ashes

[@shanoyknight582]

Absolutely

[@ja-si]

I am addicted to their commentary as well man. I don't even care if they are talking about cricket or chewing gum.

[@RameshKumar-bd7dy]

Nope waste 👎👎

[@williamjones710]

We were spoiled with Strauss, Cook, Trott, Pietersen and Bell being in one team together with an attack of Broad, Anderson, Swann and Tremlett

[@KshitijBhambri1]

Cook Vaughan Steve Harmison Monty Panesar

[@Kevvy0689]

That's where I think the EBC took their foot off the gas, they saw that team and the people who were waiting to come in and decided we were fine for years to come. You only have to look at who were the young ones back then fighting to get into that good side 8-10 years ago? It was Root, Stokes, Taylor, Bairstow etc for the batting and as for bowlers we had them queuing out the door for a shot at playing and everything looked bright for the future for English Test Cricket. The ECB decided to not focus on test cricket at all and all of a sudden 5-6 years down the line there is zero competition in the background, it's alright saying drop Burns, Hameed, Pope etc etc etc but it's the same names rotating in and out because we literally have nobody else. Unfortunately we're back to that 1990s revolving door policy because this is the best we've got available at the moment. We should focus on the reasons why this is the best we can muster, that's the real question.

[@williamjones710]

@@Kevvy0689 spot on mate

[@arunsrivatsa7155]

England will be more spoilt if they keep on playing Anderson forever let's accept the fact that he isn't physically fit to Play back to back intense test matches and he shud make way to the young bowlers. Also if they don't pick a spinner regularly forget about winning they can't even compete outside English conditions

[@SilentHotdog28]

@@arunsrivatsa7155 Outside England? They barely managed to draw the series in England, which did them no good anyway since Aus just needed a draw to retain. Plus England lost to India in England also, England aren't even good enough in England now.

[@chrisw5738]

Athers is just full of poise and wisdom

[@robeson1231]

And heroin

[@kookaburra8722]

As an Englishman living in Melbourne for 15 years, I love the Sky cricket podcasts. Feels like home hearing familiar voices. Sensible and balanced opinion, unlike the hyperbole you get in mainstream media in Australia.

[@trooking1]

I’m an Aussie, I know the results so far look one-sided but there were some critical moments where I felt England could have changed the outcome, here are the key points I think England need to focus on : Pitch the ball up (Labuschagne played and missed a lot, he is more likely to nick a ball pitched up), pick a fast bowler and a spinner for variety (don’t judge Leach from one bad game in Brisbane), be patient and determined when the game starts to go against you (they start sessions well but then panic and collapse when they lose a wicket or an Aussie starts to get some runs), don’t bowl no-balls (it starts at training), either leave the ball or swing hard when batting (don’t just stick the bat out there asking for a nick).

[@markdowse3572]

Hey, Tom, stop telling them how to play here in Oz ! Ha ha ha

[@mrkipling2201]

Tom that’s one of the best comments I’ve seen on here.

[@amangarg6531]

Aussie with fiery analysis after getting humbled by Team India this year in their own backyard. Came a long way, Nice going lad.

[@nickrad6966]

England don't have any quick bowlers and haven't for 20 years. This is the cause of all the problems.

[@amangarg6531]

@@nickrad6966 Yeah I think that's why they also got hammered by Team India in their own backyard.

[@keatscornerwithasimasif8583]

Being an English teacher, I would strongly recommend Nasser Hussain and Mike Artherton for learners of English language and particularly those studying literature .They are a delight to listen to

[@mhryzvi4491]

Are they that good probably went to a good college or university

[@SilentHotdog28]

I love listening to them. I'm Aussie and it's not often that you hear an elegant sounding Aussie haha.

[@keatscornerwithasimasif8583]

@@SilentHotdog28 Obviously. Who can be better at English than the English as the natives think in English whereas the other nationals are obstructed by mother tongue.

[@Wishva737]

@@keatscornerwithasimasif8583 Man looking at your videos you are not born in UK and you do not live in UK too if I am correct to judge Nasser and Athers … Brits can hold a conversation for many hours together even when there is very little to discuss .. every person whom I bumped into my work place in UK speaks excellent English as it’s their first language .. listen to the Speeches in UK parliament .. don’t mistake someone’s first language to Proficiency. You have to meet playwrights writers etc to determine ones English. I can get a English teacher job in a week in any parts of India Pakistan Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. So I totally dismiss your views .. I suggest you live in UK you will enjoy even more .. Nasser and Athers are good observers of the game ..that’s all

[@user-hp3et5re5y]

Yes buddy , worked a lot for me 😂😂😂

[@thomasbrotherhood1584]

I disagree on the Taunton point - Jarrod Kimber offers a great analysis that shows Taunton is very average turning ground in the global game. It might take turn by English standards, but not in comparison to other grounds overseas, and it's our overseas performances that are the issue.

[@Jackcarr87]

It really frustrates me when pundits blame the pitches. Boycott averaged FIFTY EIGHT for Yorkshire, almost entirely on uncovered pitches against international-standard bowling attacks, not 79mph county trundlers. It's far more to do with skill and application than pitches.

[@saleemkirmani5583]

@@Jackcarr87 Absolutely right.

[@stephenlatimer1428]

hi from Australia. i really enjoy listening to Nassar Michael n Rob. their views on both teams r fair harsh n honest, luv that from them. keep it up lads.

[@mann2660]

More than 300 in the first innings and bowlers to take 20 wickets .is a must in test cricket

[@vybhaveswaraiah7114]

💯 Right. England Test Team simply look hopeless

[@richposports7030]

Not quite as easy as it sounds, in practice. Take that from a long time West Indian fan!! The 80's and 90's were the best!!

[@thesnackbandit]

@@richposports7030 Who said it was easy?

[@markdowse3572]

300 in the first dig is nice..... But I prefer Ian Healy's approach - score 600 in combined innings then take 20 wickets.

[@jaykafei4815]

Australia won by 275 wickets!! England were bad, but let's not get ridiculous

[@adityaramachandran2852]

🤣🤣🤣

[@gzeuskraiste]

27 innings and 5 wickets

[@bobopgoswami5267]

Yeah, the scorecard missed the mark by about 150 wickets.

[@johnwilson909]

For seventy years , I have been hearing about the problem with county cricket. I feel the solution is creating a zone system (North ,South, East and West) and select teams and play four day matches from these groups. This would create a higher standard similar to our Sheffield Shield. I realise this is impractical now because of the phrenetic nature of present day cricket and the need to generate revenue but this would lift the standard and create the mindset needed,

[@ghanshanichirag6099]

I disagree It has worked wonderfully for aus But the same system was copied by pak and they now have 5 teams in domestic but it hasn't worked out there Whereas in ind we still have 30+ teams and it is giving us results I think the conditions is imp Eng doesn't prepare spin friendly conditions in home With the bat too the batters aren't able to score a lot as pitches are seam friendly offten

[@nandi7772]

May be England should import some good players from somewhere else like they do in ODI.

[@ARandomGuy24]

@@ghanshanichirag6099 Pakistan suffer from having no proper home ground for a generation. They'll need years to get on their feet.

[@dipdasgupta6931]

How old are you?

[@nishant1877]

Bruh are you 120

[@haighjj]

When does the pressure come on Silverwood? He is the one that keeps selecting the wrong team... No Ed Smith to blame it on

[@yumaanmustafa1421]

joe root average entry point in test cricket this year is 36/2 shows how good he has been you should support eng cricket in transition state

[@danieltaylor1897]

27:20 I think when talking about the bowling choice made in this test- they’ve made the mistake of excluding both Anderson and broad in first test so felt obliged to choose both in 2nd test, Robinson was best bowler in first test (albeit alongside wood) and woakes is the only one in the tail capable of scoring runs

[@varshavarshaagarwal]

What would collapse faster a stack of Domino's or English cricket (English cricket is boring)

[@mrkipling2201]

Wood should have played in the 2nd test I think. He’s the only bowler we’ve got fit at the moment with genuine pace. He was the fastest bowler in Brisbane and got Smith out with a brilliant ball. Unfortunately his injury problems won’t allow him to play a number of games in a row. Archer is a huge loss.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

Woakes is the specialist number 8 batsman who bowls a bit

[@JK-wl5bx]

Really missed discussions like this , rather than the crap served up on bt

[@heliumtrophy]

Matt Prior's been decent but it has been a bit wishy-washy.

[@robertmason6366]

I've never been a massive Rob Key fan but he made some excellent points about Root getting a second opinion or a bit of help and advice on the setting up of a game plan. Silverwood has to go and Giles needs a warning. be ruthless like Steve Waugh's Aussie side. They carried no slackers and that included dropping his brother in 2002 leading to Marks retirement.

[@11hitmanDagenius]

didn't Mark plan his retirement beforehand? don't remember Steve dropping him

[@robertmason6366]

@@11hitmanDagenius No he was dropped then announced his retirement.

[@AlexHawker761]

This is the best commentary! So much fun. Thanks!

[@dr.ajaykulkarni6628]

This is the best Chat show of all. Great gentlemen. Contented

[@ryanperera5243]

Ollie Pope reminds me of Kusal Mendis of Sri Lanka. Abundance of talents to be a once in decade batsmen but not mentally tough enough. Hope both these guys will somehow get over this

[@sohaibi2061]

The way they can achieve this is by playing several matches, without thinking about their score. Just playing test format cricket and holding the crease as long as possible. Runs will come, if the right application is there, so they need to back their training rather than what's on the scoreboard.

[@ryanperera5243]

@@sohaibi2061 Need some luck as well. Just need the opposition drop few catches with near misses going their way to get a couple of big scores. These players can turn their careers around in one big series unlike players like Burns who doesn't have the talent to become really good. People have to understand that

[@granthodges9860]

Before I start my little rant, congrats gentlemen on your wise and insightful views on the current woes of the English cricket team. I enjoyed this very much and look forward to your next. As an Aussie, of course I want our team to dominate the Ashes and send your guys packing but I also share your obvious frustrations with unbelievable team selections. Leaving Anderson and Broard out of the Brisbane test and put them on ice reeked of England putting all their eggs in one basket in the hope of them bowling you to victory when in fact massive damage has already occurred both physically and mentally. I can’t help but wonder after hearing your comments on County cricket why England doesn’t include a system of a level above County which would offer stiffer competition and better prepare your national team for tests. I know it’s a simplistic idea but if England was split in four and North, South, East and West teams were chosen from the best players from the county’s - Wouldn’t this then provide a more elevated level of competition with the result being players chosen from these divisions are then available for selection to the national squad? I wish you well because I’d dearly like to see a closer contest. Merry Christmas and good luck Boxing Day. 👍🏻🇦🇺

[@mrkipling2201]

As an England fan the decision making is so bad at times it’s laughable. The frustrating thing is that Root and Malan did the hard work on the 3rd day in Brisbane and then we threw it all away. As for the idea of a competition above county cricket, it can’t hurt. We need to get back to playing county cricket throughout the summer as well.

[@HuwEvans.]

Apologies for sending over an ill prepared team time ad again. It really is embarrassing, and the Ashes deserves better. Unfortunately, our game in England has been hijacked by money men, who have no care or love for the game, just money. I am ashamed of what the game has become.

[@portcullis5622]

Thanks. Boxing Day test went well.🤣😭

[@mrkipling2201]

At the moment I don’t care. I really don’t. Let’s just stop having the Ashes in Australia until we can send a team over that will compete and make it a close series at least. Otherwise we’re just wasting everyone’s time and money.

[@firemouse3000]

I’d say to Eoin Morgan “Look, you’ll go down as one of England’s legendary captains and players. You’re not the man you once were with the bat. Please now be our head coach in all formats. Jos can captain the one day side. Stokes can captain the test team.” He’s a natural leader and strategist. He’d do a great job. Also bring in Parkinson and Livingstone and drop Burns for literally anyone.

[@lalitnanoskar1032]

0:37 Australia won by 275wkts 😵😵😂😂😂

[@Gorphoz]

Tbh it felt that bad

[@andyvk1845]

These guys are so soothe and melodious to listen to 👌🏻👌🏻. I would say best channel to prepare for British IELTS 😂🤣😂🤣 Good job guys 👍🏻

[@bhoopalsinghRoheria]

If understand Andrew Flintoff word by word then you definitely clear IELTS 🙏

[@danedwadd62]

Just annoys me how the selectors and coach don’t learn anything from previous years, woakes is a good cricketer in England but poor overseas

[@whitespider8523]

As is Anderson.

[@JY-ev5ms]

@@whitespider8523 false

[@anweshchatterjee7595]

@@whitespider8523 look at his economy rates. Australia are defending him out all day. Whereas Woakes is bowling a long hop every over, 4 runs an over with a tail end wicket from a slog. There's a difference. It's up to the quicker bowlers like Wood to use Anderson's pressure to take wickets. Alternatively, Anderson's like could just go fuller, 3+ an over, finish with 3 wickets in 15 overs.

[@whitespider8523]

@@anweshchatterjee7595 Its wickets that win matches, Anderson has 23 x 5 wicket returns at home as opposed to 8 x 5 wicket returns abroad. A strike rate abroad of 1 wicket every 11 overs overseas.

[@awerdna387]

Woakes is there for his batting, which says it all really!

[@thew4rrior5code]

England have never been that good in Aus but this test side is the worst we've had in a while. We might as well scrap the away ashes because it's like the Eurovision we all know we going too finish last or we won't compete and just lose in a narrow game.

[@Nanguancarn]

Do you think with leech and wood and a fuller length on day 1 things would gave changed ?

[@paulgill2042]

And like Eurovision, Australia will beat you.

[@mrkipling2201]

@@Nanguancarn possibly.

[@eightyseven3113]

If you scrap The Ashes in Australia then we will not tour England. That is the nature of bilateral agreements.

[@thew4rrior5code]

@@paulgill2042 ha yeah lol cause they are part of Europe ainte they 😂

[@chrisw5738]

Been waiting for this gem all day

[@jackmorris-holland4882]

Love at the beginning on the overall scorecard it says “Australia won by 275 wickets” 😂

[@mrkipling2201]

It feels like that!! 🤣🤣

[@danielfarrell592]

Loving the analysis, only good part of this ashes tour so far!

[@KW-md1bq]

Atherton and Nasser are brilliant commentators. Really insightful and see both sides.

[@willgoodall1529]

England have struggled to score 450 runs combined over 2 innings in a match over the last few years, let alone in one innings

[@peternagy-im4be]

And will fail to do so in the next few years too.

[@pinkimonidevi3142]

@@peternagy-im4be Good joke 😂

[@mrkipling2201]

Haven’t scored big since getting 578 in the first test in India.

[@tanmoytarafder8655]

Thay had done that against India in the 4th test scoring 390+ Ig.

[@princenarayana]

Other hand, India scored tons of runs against this bowling line up in two back to back series and won both

[@mohsinaziz77]

Nasser and Athers are surgeons when they talk you just listen two real gentlemen of our great game. Feel sorry for this performance but personally happy living in downunder that Aussies are winning but surely need tougher contest. My suggestion you need to bring some one aggressive at top order and that’s Crawley or even Bairstow because you can’t challenge Aussies till you don’t attack them. 3 changes for MCG bring in Crawley, Bess and Wood in place of Burns, Woakes and Broad. And by the way Australia’s recent record in MCG and SCG is not that good and it will suit England a bit more with low bounce.

[@rameshd877]

England need to find a quality spinner in the next few years to compete at the test level . Lack of quality spinner hurting them . If India can find quality seamers then no excuse for England to say conditions don’t allow them to develop spinners

[@peternagy-im4be]

Ramesh. Please don't be so silly.

[@mahmudhassan9636]

I think mark Parkinson is the best spinner

[@alexwarner6111]

England would kill for a Lyon, he still gets ridiculed in Australia, yet has over 400 test wickets.

[@peternagy-im4be]

@@alexwarner6111 Why is Lyon not appreciated in Australia? Quality bowler with heavy overspin and turn.

[@andyclohessy5840]

I'm rewatching this video and it's so interesting to see where we were at during that horrible Ashes series in Australia 18 months ago and where we're at now. This past year, I've seen some of the best and most exciting test cricket played by an England team in 38 years of watching them and being an England fan.

[@jimbob1427]

I could listen to these guys talk cricket all day.

[@django27]

0:18 won by 275 wickets 😂😂, the Englishmen are totally disturbed due to these two back to back wonders of theirs'😂😂

[@MrWARRIORMONKS]

That's the equivalent of 13.75 test matches. That's a lot of win.

[@danyalparacha1761]

😂 I thought none noticed

[@Xaran001]

The problem is the Duke ball, in the mid 2k's you deliberately changed it so that the seam is, simply stupid. So now it swings with the shine for 20, then reverses for the next 40 - 50 and you get a new ball at 80. No wonder you only develop pedestrian seamers, when does a spinner develop? Why put your body through bowling pace, when you can toddle up and hoop it a metre? No wonder your batsmen only play cross bat? As for the pitches in these days of drop in pitches there is simply no excuse. And as for finger spin not working out here, that is simply bull! India, Pakistan and New Zealand have no issue with spin.

[@ranga0768]

Under-rated comment.!!

[@janga75]

💯💯💯💯

[@alancawfield6549]

Why is Burns still in the team he's had over 30 test matches and still averages around 30 , why is Foakes not the wicket keeper he's clearly miles better keeper than Buttler is and he's a quality batsman as well so no loss in the batting department.England would also be far better off to go with the 4 all rounders approach they had for a few years with Curran, Woakes and Ali all in the team (in addition to Stokes)at least it would strengthen the batting line up and not really weaken the bowling as they could still pick Anderson and Broad as the 2 all out bowlers, of course the sky pundits hated that approach but it would be a better option than the current approach.Pope needs to be dropped as well bring , specialist batsmen at and only averaging 29 after 22 tests is not good enough.

[@mickstunes6383]

They seem to find a reason not to pick Foakes, even after he does well.

[@chrisf666]

Curran injured & Ali retired - otherwise makes sense 😉...

[@hulk8384]

@@mickstunes6383 yeah

[@hulk8384]

@@chrisf666 Yes

[@alancawfield6549]

@@chrisf666 Didn't realize that.

[@mickstunes6383]

Anderson looks like he'd rather be at a beach somewhere, Broad bowling at medium pace & they pick them both at Adelaide???? Incredible.

[@Longrunthefox]

Always a pleasure watching England getting hammered in Every Sport....

[@sentimentalbloke185]

aye

[@grayalun]

England need to take the approach South Africa did with their spinner back when they had four seamers. Paul Harris would build pressure while the seamers rested. England need a guy who's accurate and builds pressure when the seamers recharge and gets some turn when the conditions suit as well. I can't understand why Danny Briggs isn't considered, he's tall gets bounce and is accurate and is a decent lower order batter as well. Livingstone maybe who's a more than useful spinner and a destructive batsmen.

[@rajeshraman8509]

How about taking Team India’s approach since we were the only country to win test series in Australia for the past two visits down under ❓

[@grayalun]

@@rajeshraman8509 That would be a great idea but you have much better players to choose from though. I mean Ashwin was struggling to get a game for you guys and he's world class. England would kill to have Ashwin in their team, he can bat too.

[@rajeshraman8509]

@@grayalun That’s sounds really good as an Indian. But the real benchmark was set by the westindies under SIR Clive Lloyd isn’t ❓

[@Superfly1503]

Surely the reason to pick any bowler is that he can take wickets. Run rates should only be considered when a decision between two equally matched bowlers needs to be made. To me, this attitude of picking spinners to keep things tight fundamentally misunderstands the way spinners bowl and the problem that Shane Warne has caused for all spinners since.

[@madhavgupta07]

Rob key is like a student stuck up in a meeting of professors .

[@rahulshankar1985]

Gentlemen come on the cracks were visible during Indias tour of England. Their batting collapsed twice on the fifth day on pretty flat tracks. So not surprised. I will be surprised if the scoreline is anything other than 5 -0 to Australia.

[@MyPaddy2011]

Agree with Nass. Too much reliance on stats. Fine for individual sports but in a team sport, players will underperform to maintain their spot.

[@Ibuprofen007]

James Anderson : No cloud, No Party!!

[@Moamanly]

I would like to see these guys analyse Root's captaincy too.

[@davidkemball-cook559]

The caption at the beginning shows that Australia won by 275 wickets. I know that it was a heavy margin of defeat, but did not realise it was that heavy.

[@EclecticSausage]

England is crying out for a young Labuschagne type player. Such an easy team to break into at the moment and cement your place if you are a disciplined red ball cricketer with a wide shot selection

[@JunaidKhan-pd1sp]

wAs waiting for this vodcast

[@drsinghtraveller6100]

Same here✌

[@alecentertainment6454]

Everyone talking about the ball and batting I feel for players this series came out December where main holiday month in calendar year. Enjoy the time with entire family.

[@GopiNath-ud7qh]

Competitive Ashes is good for game of cricket..Hope England will bounce back soon..

[@Superfly1503]

I’ve been watching the ashes since 1989 and I can tell you it’s hardly ever been close in that time, no matter who is winning.

[@VARMOT123]

India have got three standout batters in kohli,pujara and rishabh pant in recent series in australia and others chipping in all the time . England are badly missing a rishabh pant and pujara in their batting departments

[@garethfergusson9538]

Seeing shades of Jaques Kallis in this Cameron Green... We can only hope to see a player like that again

[@philipdent-composermusicpr9297]

High class analysis indeed…love these guys

[@hughmacdonnell9096]

Surely the question around where selection lies with Silverwood and the swift dismissal of Ed Smith needs to come into question after this tour? England played 4 seamers and no spinner in India during the winter when Axar Patel spun us out and now two poor selections for both of these tests

[@nitlover8319]

English management think every pink ball test will be a seam friendly affair.

[@HkFinn83]

How are they being chosen to run the England team? Who chose Ed Smith? He had no track record or reputation in the game at all. Who will watch the watchmen?

[@danielkelly4487]

Pretty simple broad and Anderson are rubbish in Australia always have been . Batters aren’t willing to leave the ball on length with is like gold in Australia. Australia’s top 4 batters contain 3 quality batters which 9 times out of 10 one will at least score big . And hazlewood Cummins are the 2 best bowlers in the world and Lyon is the best spinner

[@SilentHotdog28]

Plus you can expect a decent combined total from the rest of the batters Head, Carey and Green....Even the Tail end pitch in sometimes.

[@feck1582]

@@baidicsarkar8329 You are right Baidic, however three of those are highly injury prone ... so you need back up and why not use Woakes, Anderson and Broad for that? But indeed in line with your post, I would suggest using Robinson and Archer/Wood as you base setup and add one of Woakes/Broad/Anderson according to conditions and than ad a decent spinner and you have a good attack for most conditions... (and add a second spinner in the sub continent in stead of W/B/A)..

[@mave1984rv]

Hi guys , change your summary at the start , it shows Australia won by 275 wickets. Nice analysis by the experts as always.

[@thomridgeway1438]

Jusr remember we have been bad for a long time now! Even the 2019 Ashes glossed over our poor show. Had it not been for a Stokes freakshow we should have lost to Aussies 3 : 1 not 2 : 2

[@nickrad6966]

"Bowlers short on length." They've got no pace which is the source of all the problems. Line and length isn't enough on.a flat pitch.

[@user.aghanya4970]

Oh lord this pannel. I envy this.❤️🇮🇳

[@adamgabriel6641]

One of the main problems in my opinion is the broad and Anderson issue. They don’t have the pace now to trouble anyone outside England. They get so exposed when playing away from home. Need to get wood and leach in.

[@prasheelnair8850]

It just seems when looking at the last few matches England have played, the batsmen just seem to not know what their role is with respect to their role and contributions in the team. Let's take Butler for example who have been not amongst runs but if you see even against Imdia where one of the matches he stood at the crease almost till the time only 10 overs were left for them to draw the match. But unfortunately he hasn't either done that in a winning cause. I think promoting him to a higher position to counter attack no matter what and have somebody who can genuinely stay at crease for long should come down to occupy the crease and make sure they don't collapse. Cause with England even when they are playing long it is the runs they are unable to churn. If you look at Rishabh Pant he has been successful because even when he doesn't play a long innings , it is his scores that seem to be a big contribution. Or else for a couple of games , they could also try Butler at the top and somebody like Hasseb who can score to play at a lower order cause if Butler negotiates the new ball it gets easier for the others to score and what England hasn't done is both seeing off the new ball and the runs on board.

[@alexwarner6111]

Starc and Lyon can be a bit hit and miss, but their best is outstanding, Hazelwood and Cummins are in the top 5 bowlers in the world, so that’s a pretty awesome attack.

[@tanjosawyer9529]

speaking of spin, Embury and Edmonds bowled well in Aus 86/87 -- large numbers of overs for few runs, allowing England to rotate the seamers

[@Superfly1503]

In fairness, they weren’t exactly bowling to the Invincible’s in that series.

[@ryanperera5243]

burns with his technique, even he becomes really lucky and in form, he ll end up with an average of 35 at max.

[@vigneshvicky6267]

Fascinating discussion ! Respect for R.Ashwin off spin & virat's leadership has increased 10 times atleast for me ! ❤️

[@backyardfifa3649]

I think a lot of people before This Ashes Series expected Australia to win 4-0 or 5-0, now I think everyone knows that Australia will win 5-0.

[@educationworld9699]

I said this thing when they were talking about ashes when they were playing against sri lanka

[@educationworld9699]

I am saying another thing after seeing today fighting spirit that England will win atleast one ashes test in these series

[@anweshchatterjee7595]

@@educationworld9699 make up your mind. 5-0 doesn't leave one for England to win.

[@educationworld9699]

@@anweshchatterjee7595 off course but i am saying now that england will win atleast one ashes test after seeing today fighting spirit when everyone saying that they will lose 5-0

[@anweshchatterjee7595]

@@educationworld9699 well hope so. Who knows, maybe that one will be Melbourne and then they'll win three on the trot :)

[@harrysachin8386]

England need atleast one spinner like Panesar or Swan kind off . In Australia you need Hit the deck bowlers than swing bowlers.

[@Slackboy72]

Joe Root isn't a captain. In 2006/07 you could see times when Flintoff's shoulders dropped in the field. There was one guy running around trying to gee up and encourage his team-mates. That was Andrew Strauss. Joe Root is another Flintoff. England need another Strauss.

[@carisi2k11]

So Ollie pope is Englands version of Usman Khawaja. Looks good and scores plenty of runs in that level down at shield but struggles at the test level.

[@rohans875]

I love Uzzie but that's very accurate

[@janga75]

Well struggled in one ashes series but he had his chances

[@omsujesh4123]

English red ball cup board approach strategy selection n coaching with leadership needs a tremendous reboot.

[@ritabanbanerjee5744]

The English Test team needs a change in dere approach especially when u are playing in Australia.....This team lacks a quality spinner as well as an Express fast bowler....U can't just drop Wood and Leach...even if they don't perform up to the mark should play atleast 4tests out of 5...Also someone like Bairstow should be tried as an opener.....He is an impact player just like Rohit....It could work wonders....England needs to be aggressive in Australia 🇦🇺

[@mavlaw]

Best podcast, best balance, best guys

[@dakshpaliwal6985]

Could probably select Ben Foakes.....

[@harshkumarf4379]

i absolutely agree with ponting's take on pitches ,,, and robinson bowling spin was not only a joke but a serious admission that they got the selection wrong for the match ,,,

[@yaaseenparker7828]

How can they be hyping stokes's batting but saying Malan can't be disspointed if his dropped. Malan has been the 2nd best batsmen this tour

[@yasirkhalidranjhaksath5129]

this English team is more resilient than the previous teams , Jos Butler showed a great character and almost earn a draw , only the weaker side is openers and Olie Pope .

[@mrkipling2201]

Bar Smith, Labuschagne and the bowling attack, the rest of the Australian team is good but not great. We’ve matched them at times but not been able to make the killer blow. Ok a lack of preparation doesn’t help in alien conditions but we should be able to bat better than we are. I would play Lawrence instead of Pope in Melbourne. Yes he’s undoubtedly got talent but he’s gone confidence wise.

[@marlonmiller5527]

Did I miss something but why would England consider changing Milan

[@sohaibi2061]

Really good discussion with the Sky Sports Cricket Team. Enjoy their insight. My personal view: + Burns stays in as I would always prefer a left / right hand opening pair. No other good replacement for left hand • Burns cannot play any off /cover drives and can only play if the balls is on his legs and when short on the cut shot. Unless he fixes his technique on his woeful feet movement. • Hameed is fine, but just needs to concentrate a little more. Sleep one hour earlier than current. He has decent patience / technique. Just needs to focus so he doesn't play at deliveries he doesn't need to + Drop Ollie Pope for one game to practice in nets or First class game to get rid of nerves. Seems to play himself out from his dismissals this series. Other than the brilliant catch in first test. + Bring in Lawrence at 7 as Pope replacement and bring Ben Stokes up to 5, Buttler at 6. + All England players to do fielding catching practice every day • Malan still at 3 and let him continue. He is 2nd best batsman for Eng + Drop Anderson for Wood subject to pitch conditions at Melbourne + Get a spinner to bowl straight - hold up an end - have three fielders behind bowler....

[@sisaxena]

"Australia won by 275 wickets" at the beginning of the video does make it sound a heavy defeat :D

[@carisi2k11]

I don't think Hazelwood will be playing at the MCG. Might be too early to come back from that side strain injury yet.

[@nickrad6966]

Selection, strategy, being "outplayed." These are all positive criticisms which I honestly admire as they can be improved but ultimately they are ignoring the overwhelming reality of Australia of having more talent and much better players at every position. Quicker, more athletic bowlers and 3 world class Batsmen which is a minimum at Test level. England have only 1 in Root currently with Stokes not fully fit, plus Australia's entire lineup isn't as mentally weak and prone to collapse as England.

[@jackdaniel7538]

Batsmen with test averages in the 30s are never going to trouble this Aus bowling attack....They have to score 400+ to put pressure on Aus...Selection errors, dukes ball bowling attack, batsmen with poor techniques are all contributing to England's failure...Another 5-0 embarrassment on the cards...

[@raghavendrahegde375]

There is a print mistake 0:28 it should be runs not 275 wickets !!!

[@nikhildharbale.1996]

I think England's best series was not 2011 ashes but 2012 india tour. They gave india real hard time.

[@jaihind9290]

I don’t see any Tweets from Michael Vaughan now but Australia vs India series he was very active predicting results 4-0 3-1 2-1 to Australia’s favour

[@sanjaymandal6572]

He has been boycotted By everyone

[@vishnufam]

I think James Vince is a far better player than he is credited for. He can come in for Pope. And Foakes deserves a spot in place of Butler. He’s been doing consistently well in Domestic cricket.

[@nirmit591]

Atherton and Nasser Hussain make so much sense. Why are they not included in some of this decision making?

[@rahowherox1177]

A tree tends to rot from the top down. Imo, the problems start with selection, coaching and captain'ng...

[@grantevans5752]

It looks like a work/holiday at the moment

[@a-xavierz.r8595]

Great legend Naseer always missed u.

[@iangatt7697]

Hate to say this but I think its time to put the call out to James Vince

[@warrickdawes7900]

With regard to spinners, the captain has to know how to captain the spinner, set the fields, and let them do their work. With the seamers it's a lot easier with more theory on how to do things, but modern captains do not know how to nurture, encourage and support their spinners.

[@plym1969]

The 11 Australians are better than any 11 England can put out so changing the team is just moving the deck chairs on the Titanic. Until we get back to coaching proper technique and identify the mentally tough players with the best techniques then we will continue to struggle. Rob Key coaches Crawley Crawley's grip stops him being able to drive the ball outside off stump with a full face of the bat. Why didn't Key sort this out 4 years ago?

[@russdy1982]

As soon as they left out the spinner for Adelaide after Brisbane, my first thought was, watch that over rate.

[@NishantSharma-vf2wd]

I have always felt that Stokes is extremely overrated as a batsman in all formats.Everyone just feels as if he is the best of all time.Other than the world cup final, headingley test and 250 vs south Africa in cape Town can we really name his notable performances,don't think so.Yes he is a very good player but on the basis of 2 to 3 innings we think that he is the best all rounder.Average of 36 in test,40 in Odis which is good and 20 in t20s is not what the best players have.Even I was his huge fan but I hate this sensationalization of Stokes by media and especially Nasser who I think is probably the best commentator or expert of cricket.

[@jr98qpr98]

The problem is that test average of 36 is comfortably the second highest in England's batting order and makes him one of only 3 to average above 35 in the last decade 😂

[@bobmarley7544]

I agree he’s not been the best with the bat compared to his great years but if we’re gonna look at stats and ranking then for all stokes has done for England will be forget because someone like you call him overated. Name a Better all rounder then him. Stokes a impact player he makes things happen bowling or batting. He’s clear of holder jadeja anyone else. He’s a super man on the pitch for what he’s done for England winning test matches, saving England from humiliation, getting big wickets, wonderful catches, he’s a asset to any team. He walks into any International team aswell

[@Airyed]

Stokes is an all rounder who had to bowl 22 overs in the first innings then had to come in so quickly I think it shows up how fragile the batting line up is Stokes should come after Pope

[@tvclipshollybolly2014]

I bought subscription for a good ashes series. Expecting the Stokes to fight for the rest.