They Won't Give Us Cruise Control, Let's Install It Ourselves

[@onthebackwheel]

Gday everyone. Little update, my rear brake switch isn't working, explains why the rear brake isn't cancelling the cruise. There is also going to be a firmware update to make the cruise slightly less aggressive if you put it back on from a lower speed. If you want a discount, make sure you use my code OTBW on their website. Cheers!

[@vincent2167]

Thanks for the information. Do you know by chance if for the update process, we need to remove the fuel tank or is there a way to perform it via the more accessible connector that plugs to the diagnostic port ?

[@onthebackwheel]

@@vincent2167no worries. I had a chat to Jackson and it is through the controller, so you'll either need a USB cable or lift up the tank again. This is pre production though so ones you purchase would have the latest firmware

[@zudosmg]

I had to remove the tank to Install the OEM heated handgrips, but I was lucky and got the tank off with minor issues. I did struggle with that gas line but was lucky to get everything popped off with no breaks. I sure wish they had a prop thing sort of like supersports so you could do it easier. Can't wait to get this cruise control and replace my manual one. Thanks for the video mate. Cheers from Vancouver Island .

[@onthebackwheel]

That's a good idea, would certainly reduce some of the heartbreak 😂

[@1young-geezer]

Long rides w/ no cruise control, can't imagine it anymore, my Tuareg has it off the floor, and I LOVE IT!!! Like you, I can't really imagine why all the "adventure" bikes don't have it from the get go, holding throttle for hundreds of miles is ridiculous. Watching you dig into the under bits cements the realization that these modern bikes are rats nests to deconstruct.

[@onthebackwheel]

It certainly makes the long slogs easier!

[@bigred8438]

Thanks for your video. Before Cruise control was a thing, many, many bikes were manufactured that didn't have it. This provides a huge opportunity to fill a really gap in the brand and model ranges that were never made with cruise control. I have tried a few different types of mechanical throttle control/Cruise controls with none of them being as functional as you would expect or hope they could be. My youngest bike with electronic fuel injection is 23 years old. But does not have ride by wire throttle which I am certain would be necessary to fit such an aftermarket unit.

[@bazza8947]

Mccruise make complete cruise controls for bikes without ride by wire throttles. They also make a ride by wire version.

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

I have the Toggle for my transalp. On or off. Can't wait for the resume/plus/minus switch to arrive. Will never own a bike without cruise

[@onthebackwheel]

It's one of those things hey, once you've used it...

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Fuel savings. Ignore speed traps. Enjoy nature around without the stress of paying attention to speed all the time. Relax the entire right arm. No throttle compensation for hills up or down. Any bike with throttle by wire needs them.

[@vincent2167]

Thanks for the video ! The product description on the website indicates that using the front or rear brake deactivates cruise control. During your review, you mentioned that only the front brake deactivates cruise control. That means that either there is currently an issue with the product or they should update the product description.

[@onthebackwheel]

I have sent them an email, but I believe it is because I have a preproduction model or an issue with my rear brake. Will let everyone know when I know

[@jpbloodyaussie]

Dude my favourite shorts are back... that dent on the tank is killing me. It is my birthday today and I could not think of anything I wanted in that price range so I got a handmade camp knife but if I had have seen this video I would have got one... the price point is very appealing... thanks for uploading this video and as I mentioned it is too bad your not in Vic as I could do some of you mechanical work... ha ha ha

[@onthebackwheel]

Happy birthday mate! I've been looking at knives too, there's some bloody nice stuff out there

[@stevesane800]

Great stuff Crazy Man Curtis 🤙 Sad to see the V-Strom go! I am incredibly appreciative of how you tried to kill it, but was slightly defeated by pulling the tank off by making it fall😉 Still, the Suzuki couldn't be killed! You're a top bloke & with a young family must have your hands full! Not too much mucking around! Cheers

[@onthebackwheel]

She's a tank mate. And yes, much better at time management now with the family 😂

[@jaspreetbains2776]

I just bought an 800de and have found your videos invaluable. Sorry to see the Suzuki go but we understand you need new content.

[@onthebackwheel]

Thanks mate. Will be sad to see it go

[@NoSkillzMoto]

Cannot wait for mine to arrive. Last time I disassembled the bike it took my like 4 hours.. Oof.

[@onthebackwheel]

If it's any consolation, putting it back together is quicker

[@NoSkillzMoto]

@@onthebackwheel I think its a new record. 40 Minutes which included the bent all to hell crash bars. I really took my time installing so the install took me about 4 hours total. The tank was just a pain in the rear.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@NoSkillzMoto thats a good effort mate!

[@emfl4437]

Thanks for sharing and for the additional installation tips.

[@onthebackwheel]

Any time

[@stang65gt70]

I was looking for something like this just this past weekend for the ride up to qld in October 😁 bloody ripper mate

[@onthebackwheel]

Good timing!

[@frankenbusa6990]

@@onthebackwheel ordered through your link mate, not sure if it’ll arrive in time but looks good regardless. Bring on October

[@onthebackwheel]

@@frankenbusa6990 legend. I saw he was redoing the 3 button switch, hopefully it's all ready for you

[@frankenbusa6990]

@@onthebackwheel Hopefully, its preordered for September with 40-60 day international shipping so wont arrive in time for the ride up to Stanthorpe sadly

[@HypeRapEnjoyer]

When I saw the thumbnail I thought "Why is there a phone on the cruise control buttons" but that's for the tablet 😁 Did order with your link though, looking forward to getting it 😁

[@onthebackwheel]

Haha yep. Good stuff mate, glad I can save people a bit of money

[@daveo9844]

Cruise control is a must have these days, especially handy with all the speed cameras in the city and burbs 😎

[@onthebackwheel]

They are bloody everywhere aren't they

[@tbillington]

Nice one Curtis. I'm waiting on my veridian cruise control kit for my transalp. Big fan of the price they're doing it all for.

[@onthebackwheel]

Very happy with mine mate

[@androidemulator6952]

@13:04 ..RIP to dent on tank on rhs, lucky it was only the fuel connector that broke off. Thanks for the install video .. . Any thoughts of getting the Chigee AIO-5 , or , XR2 front and rear dashcam systems ??

[@onthebackwheel]

Got the Chigee and really like it. And yep, lesson learnt with the tank!

[@leighhill9185]

Great vid mate. Always wished my Vstrom had cruise but I was too tight to fork out for it haha

[@onthebackwheel]

Haha fair enough. Price is definitely something to consider!

[@grantleyteakle634]

Yep, i remember now why i dont like working on bikes !

[@onthebackwheel]

It can certainly be...challenging 🤣

[@joe2479]

Great video. More information on the actual operation would be nice. For example, when you use it, after cancelling, does it return to the last set speed? Seems like it does when the bike lurched forward. Also not clear on the throttle. Does rolling the throttle off cancel? Otherwise, thanks very much and will purchase through your link.

[@onthebackwheel]

Good to know. No you can't roll off on this one. It does return to set speed. I thought it was too aggressive and requested it come on more subtly when resumed so he took that on board. Really happy with it, he's done a great job

[@claydoc1]

Thxs mate, very helpful. Would great if you gave a close up of the Tank connections and how disconnection them .. Thxs Again.

[@onthebackwheel]

Cheers. I'll aim to go a bit closer next time. If you need close ups just email me

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Cruise control is one thing (along with the quick shifter) that I’ve missed from the 890.

[@NoSkillzMoto]

At least you got reliability in Exchange ? Are you talk about vstrom 800 DE qs?

[@pinkiewerewolf]

@Happypillz No I sold a KTM 890 for the T7. Yes, reliability is the reason I made the change.

[@NoSkillzMoto]

@@pinkiewerewolf KTM = Keep The Manual. Ready to Race to the Mechanics.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

@Happypillz 😂

[@giddyup3451]

Those scotchlok wire taps are bad news and a good way to ensure future electrical issues. Quote from the net "The wire tap is evil personified. The piece on the right cuts through a wire’s insulation, possibly damaging the wire strands within. A motorcycle’s vibration can loosen the tap and cause intermittent connection failures or just make it pop off the wire"

[@onthebackwheel]

Oofff I hope not. In all honesty, don't know enough about them

[@bluezhawg2104]

💯 I once worked for an employer that if a tech was caught using a Scotch Lock they’d be disciplined.

[@jamesdumas6602]

I looked at buying a Suzuk V-Strom 800, also a Yamaha T7 to replace my 17 year old and still riding 08 KLR650 and ruled both bikes off my short list because they didn't come with Cruise Control. It dumbfounds me as to why some manufactures don't put CC on their bikes, it would only cost them about $20 more in parts if they did it in the factory as it rolls down the assembly line. I looked at the Veridian CC online and it sells for $309. but they only have it for a few bikes (No Yamaha T7's) Way too expensive!

[@onthebackwheel]

Yep, very strange. Guessing they want people to buy their premium bikes?

[@jamesdumas6602]

@@onthebackwheel I am NOT paying $20,000 and up for a bike to go trail riding on, Maybe $10-12K range. The Aprilia Tuareg is probablly the bike, I am waiting a few more months.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@jamesdumas6602 yeah it's a lot of money for sure. Even with the V-Strom I cringed a bit 😂

[@bazza8947]

I was watching in horror as you were yanking on the fuel connection and thinking you were going to break it and then.........lol. Crazy Suzuki didn't offer cruise as an option!

[@onthebackwheel]

Haha yep. The camera made the angle look worse than it did I swear 😂

[@mrt4755]

very cool beats the hell out of i throttle lock especially for me i live in a very hilly area and throttle lock doesn't work when going up and down hills

[@onthebackwheel]

It's pretty clever

[@exothermal.sprocket]

One simple observation, before pulling the tank, run the fuel down to almost nothing. 😆

[@onthebackwheel]

I needed you to tell me that on that fateful day 😂

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@onthebackwheel Hahaha. Gasoline weighs 6.08 pounds per US gal, or 0.73kg/L.

[@aussiesam01]

Bloody hell. I'm so glad my Tiger 900 GT comes with cruise control, so I don't need to go through this rigmarole.

[@onthebackwheel]

Hehe yep

[@MotoFishy]

Sounds like my Veridian order will be coming in soon with more of these popping up.....

[@onthebackwheel]

Should be mate. This is a pre production model I got a while back, shouldn't be far off now

[@MotoFishy]

@@onthebackwheel they just let me know it's a two month delay for the three button control as there was an issue with them. It'll be worth the wait

[@onthebackwheel]

@@MotoFishy Ah ok. They've done a good job, very happy

[@jonathanboudville2483]

Hello. Thought you decided to sell the de? Glad you decided to keep it.

[@onthebackwheel]

Nah she's going, just been off the road for a while. One final test and on the market

[@jonathanboudville2483]

@@onthebackwheel so what did you decide on?

[@onthebackwheel]

@@jonathanboudville2483 still got to sell her first, but thinking the CF Moto 450

[@moturcu4226]

I want to buy a Suzuki Vstrom but it doesn't have cruise control. I'm going to buy a Cfmoto MT800.

[@onthebackwheel]

Fair enough. Depends on the riding you're doing too. The 800de is much better off-road

[@jonwoodworker]

Well, now i know why you needed a new fuel pump. I'm sad to hear you're selling the 800DE, but i understand it's needed to grow your channel. What's next MT450? There are tons of videos on the bike, but not many doing upgrade videos. Hopefully, it's another adventure bike and not a street bike like the Transalp...lol. The F 900 GS looks to be a solid choice.

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah thinking the 450MT. Be good to do a cheap yet tactful build on it and some hard adventure riding on it. I rode a mate's f900 to work the other day, cracking motor. Can't afford one ATM though 😕

[@markhingst5368]

Completely stupid that so many new bikes, especially those with ride-by-wire throttle are not coming with cruise control from the factory.

[@onthebackwheel]

It's a strange choice and silly imo, but I think I know why. They don't want to cannibalise the premium bikes they sell

[@markhingst5368]

@onthebackwheel yeah I guess there's that but they could just save adaptive cruise for premium spec bikes 🤷

[@stevencohen4580]

I installed MC Cruise on my 701 Husky can't live with out it.

[@onthebackwheel]

I hear good things about them too. Aussie based right?

[@bazza8947]

@@onthebackwheel Yeah, based in Victoria.

[@stevencohen4580]

@@onthebackwheel Yes High quality product, I am going to order another for a new CFMoto 450 MT.

[@onthebackwheel]

@@stevencohen4580 nice. How are you finding the 450?

[@stevencohen4580]

@@onthebackwheel Hopefully get it next week.

[@richardvanalstyne2682]

Do you have plans on getting your hands on the cfmoto mt-450?

[@onthebackwheel]

Yes, I've been trying hard but they haven't been able to get one for me. I may buy one instead

[@wernerschellekens2913]

The wire you tapped it in.. is that the wire coming from the front break handle? Does it contain 12v? Of so, you might be able to tap it on the break light and it will work for front and rear break

[@onthebackwheel]

I couldn't tell you. You would have to ask Jackson or look on their website. Mine is a pre production so there may be some slight changes

[@mekwerk]

@@onthebackwheel Do I understand right, that either applying cluth does not disengage the cc?

[@onthebackwheel]

@@mekwerk that's right, it doesn't cancel with the clutch, but automatically if the rpm reaches 6500rpm (on the vstrom 800 anyway). The front brake cancels it, if you accelerate beyond a certain parameter it cancels too. The website says it better than I can 😂

[@mekwerk]

@@onthebackwheel OK, thanks for the info. McCruise cancels also with rear brake and clutch. It's about double price also...

[@onthebackwheel]

@@mekwerk I believe this one is supposed to cancel with both brakes but is a preproduction model. So then you've just got the clutch, not an issue for mine if it's just the one thing different at half the price 😂

[@gordonborsboom7460]

Ride by wire still required. Throttle cables need not apply 😢

[@onthebackwheel]

Have a look at mccruise, I believe they have an optio

[@micklayton5976]

Hey mate what’s the reason for selling?

[@onthebackwheel]

Need something different for content is all

[@ADobbin1]

They put every other form of gadgetry known to man and possibly unwanted but they wont put the one thing on that people might actually want?????

[@onthebackwheel]

Yep 😬

[@bmartin103]

The chigee code isn’t working

[@onthebackwheel]

I'll have a look

[@onthebackwheel]

I sent them a msg mate, will try get it fixed ASAP

[@onthebackwheel]

Fixed!

[@hein_Solo]

Why you are selling your v Strom? 😞 I ordered one because of your videos 😮

[@onthebackwheel]

Only because I need new content. I really like the V Strom and I'll miss her!

[@robertchapman6795]

As for my other comment. Over 35 years experience and over 1 million km on bikes.

[@onthebackwheel]

That's some serious mileage mate, great effort and hope to do even half that!

[@robertchapman6795]

@@onthebackwheel I used to ride everywhere, rain, hail or snow. Very rarely snows in central Victoria, but once or twice on a cold year! 👍

[@onthebackwheel]

@@robertchapman6795 haha that's the spirit. I'm very keen to ride in Victoria, looks fantastic

[@robertchapman6795]

@@onthebackwheel the Goldfields have a good mix of native bush and pine plantations. Obviously the high country is on everyone’s to do list, dirt and tar. 👍

[@bluezhawg2104]

Installation disaster management….take it to a qualified technician.

[@onthebackwheel]

Learn from my disaster

[@roadwarrior8560]

What a load of bolox, Suzuki should have cruise fitted from the factory, you have to tear the bike apart and pay a fortune for a bolt on switch? they can shove it were the sun doesn't shine.

[@onthebackwheel]

Yeah it should have had it for the retail price. Thankfully the price has been dropped for the time being

[@majoy-osterlundfreeman5425]

Cruise control on a bike! F..king craziness ! Bikes are made to be ridden Not to sleep on. If you need c-troll you better stay in front your tv 😂

[@onthebackwheel]

Hehe fair enough

[@gordonborsboom7460]

@majoy-osterlundfreeman5425 yes true. Unless your hand falls asleep after 1 hour on the highway to your next off road adventure. It does not happen when constant throttle change is the norm. Riding in the Great Plains this cannot be avoided here.

[@jasgsxr2726]

They want to give us a reason to buy the 1000cc, another thing is tubeless tires, I am not changing a tubed tire on the side of the highway while touring on a 230kg bike !!!! NEVER.

[@onthebackwheel]

Not wrong there. Denting a tubed rim sucks just as much though 😬

[@Buffalobob7701]

I was looking at the 800DE but got the CFMOTO 800MT Explore and the main reason was cruise control, i like fire trail exploring and long distances to get to my destinations

[@bielbills]

Did you choose a Chinese motorcycle over a Japanese motorcycle? Good luck... 😖

[@NoSkillzMoto]

I looked at IBex800 but after owning the mt650 I was nope to that. I test drove it but it has a horrible throttle control. You use CC on a firetrail?

[@KeepitReal-x6g]

cant even compare the build quality mate

[@Buffalobob7701]

@@bielbills I certainly did as i don't care who builds the bike i wanted

[@Buffalobob7701]

@@NoSkillzMoto no but i ride long highway distances to get to the fire trails that i want to explore

[@OnyabikeMike]

Nice one, does the vstrom already have ride by wire throttle? would love this on my T7👍

[@onthebackwheel]

Yes it does. I believe the new model T7 might?