THICKEST METAL GUITAR TONE EVER w/ John Browne of Monuments

Watch John Browne mix the lead and rhythm guitars for "I, The Creator" by Monuments in Cubase.
They're quad-tracked tones from the Line 6 Pod XT Pro, all recorded with John's trademark level of insane precision. He dials in the tone using Waves H EQ to notch out problem frequencies, and finishes it off with Waves H Comp to control dynamics.
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[@URMAcademy]

Who wants to see more from John Browne??

[@kramdellakram7247]

Mix Lab spots coming in the future? did we forget?

[@ezassegai4793]

John's playing quality is just so good that you barely need to do anything except for EQ, so inspiring. Time to crank that metronome and get to work.

[@alexpenny9416]

never ask this guy what his settings are. you'll come out with a sound engineer degree.

[@JoshuaButner]

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[@timjim7830]

Seeing this and trying to read the kanji really triggered my OCD.

[@rookd1137]

soooo thiccc

[@SDH2023]

Nice. Blowing the dust off my pod HD and getting re-aquatinted.

[@Larryriley3]

I remember watching this when I first started getting into audio and recording like 2 years ago. Didn’t know anything they were talking about 😂 fast forward 2 years it all makes sense. Love this channel.

[@jo-vm1hn]

thank you guys , very cool to see you work on music we listen

[@michaelfjmusic]

Yeah, it is kind of thin, but to be fair, he did a really amazing job considering he was using stems that he recorded from home when he was new to recording. Not bad! \m/

[@bcdey84]

“I’m gonna put a high pass on it as well. Not too much, nothing too crazy” Proceeds to destroy all the low end hahaha!

[@XiyuYang]

I mean he's octatracking guitars, aggressive HP avoids all the low frequency buildups

[@ayeapprove]

Freaking Line6 Big Bottom model sounding huge

[@PeterBarnesandjelly]

Unrelated but as a Logic user the fact that the mute button turns yellow really messes me up haha

[@XChristianNoirX]

It's seems they forgot to mute the string trees at the nut or bridge when tracking. You can hear them ringing in sympathetic vibrational glory around 3/4 through the video.

[@norwardradtke1361]

kind of a cool sound IMO been a guitarist for 21 years

[@kramdellakram7247]

Its cool until you don't want it. Youre not wrong @@norwardradtke1361

[@Waterinmenbenen]

Is that what it is? Was wondering about that. Good ear!

[@XChristianNoirX]

@@Waterinmenbenen I only really caught when I got a guitar that had it bad. The string rang above the nut and behind the Tom Bridge without the tail.. Where the ball ends if the strings go through the body. That makes the excess of the strings behind the bridge long, and very prone to this. Sometimes this effect still happens after Mutting the strings above the nut and behind the bridge.. In that case it could be a or the pickup strings. I put a little bit of cloth in the pickup springs to get rid of this. Of course, with a tremolo bridge, it could be the springs in the back cavity, which need to be muted with cloth/foam inside them. This is one of those things that once you hear it, you can't unhear it. I can hear it from a mile away, because I'm aware of it. If you use a noise gate, it can even interfere with your noise gate, because after palm muting, that ringing will keep going, causing your noise gate not to shut of when it's supposed to. You then crank the noisegate so it clamps down when you mute during rhythm playing, which is when this occurs mostly, but then the gate is too severe for lead playing, because it cuts off sustain, because the ringing doesn't typically happen during lead playing, because you're normally only picking one string at once and not picking as hard, so it doesn't trigger the ringing sound. It took me a looong time to figure this out by my lonesome. Most people don't ever realize this, without being shown the issue.. Especially not the pickup springs! Some are just lucky, if their guitar doesn't do this... But they might run into the problem and not realize what's going on. One way to fix it is to get velcro cable ties and cut thin strips. Go under over under over etc on the string above the nut (and behind the bridge if you have something like a TOM bridge), and then velcro straight over the top of the strings. Other people put foam under the excess string.. Others pay $35 for a clip (highway robbery). I either do the velcro method, use Tesla string mutes which are cheap, or make my own clamos for a specific guitar I have out of a neck tie clip and gluing sof side of velcro inside the clip, so that keeps the strings from vibrating.

[@akshitjha6251]

Thicc.

[@spankeyfish]

ｅｘｔｒａ　ｔｈｉｃｃ

[@RokDAWG1]

HO-LEE-SHIT I wanna see how this is being played! The actual musicianship is killer!

[@NathanielBTM]

Just search "I the creator playthrough"

[@nextinline777]

Trouble is everyone cuts out the "garbage frequencies" 4K, 5K, 10K ect... But i would say 8K is a garbage frequency also. But cutting these too much can make your guitar sound kind of under water and lost that sharp aggressive sound which i also love too. They all have a place.

[@tylerdurden9234]

Pod xt pro guitartone with real Cab and mic recording?

[@sunnibird]

and most people wouldn't be able to tell until you told them it was a Pod, then suddenly it's crap ;)

[@wea69420]

Straight out POD, according to him

[@ezassegai4793]

John always was a pod guy, i honestly dont see myself switching to something else either. pod is awesome and it provides everything you would ever need

[@djstringsmusic2994]

Pod was great while I was beginning, until I got more into mixing and realized there was so much work to making it sound good. There are really consistent nasty frequencies from every pod sound. There are no dynamics to the sound. A pod farm head or xd with a real cab or really good impulses is ok. For a mix it works fine but live straight from the pod sounds terrible. I've seen many live bands use line six amps or pods, and I said seen because I couldn't hear them.

[@URMAcademy]

Goes to show how true the "tone is in the hands" thing is. John could plug into a Peavey Bandit and it would sound massive.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

He should've cut the 4k area. I hear this constant whispery "pssssshhh" frequency that's just annoying. It's usually in the 4K area

[@Deguoren96]

Yeah thought the same at 5:23 kinda bugged me but once the chugs set in it gets hard to notice

[@josefrancisco6969]

Hey quick question, i don't have the sesion to clarify but there are 8 tracks of rhythm guitars.Are those guitars 8 different takes or 4 stereo tracks?

[@mojolito]

they are all different takes yes

[@josefrancisco6969]

Thanks!

[@matenorth]

8 different guitars playing the same riff or 4 and 4 playing different riffs?

[@TYFLOL]

you can hear that in the video...

[@Harrysound]

720p??

[@URMAcademy]

The full NTM session is in 1080p

[@acidbath3226]

what kind of magi-cult sorcery is this?

[@joshuawhitley5819]

This dude 8 tracked guitars?

[@lilsisgay]

About a bajillion different rhythm parts going on at once. Hence the wildly different panning so you can distinguish each part.

[@TheKierensaysmaybe]

Man that presenter has some serious beard-druff. Gotta oil that shit bro!

[@ezassegai4793]

Kieren Brereton just shave it off lol, why people think beards look cool is beyond me. Keep that shit trimmed.

[@YosbelOropeza]

Eyal is a MAN not a lady princess whit a long beard!!! oh shit!!!!

[@the_meta_gaming_dm]

Whu I'm on KZbin ^^

[@ezassegai4793]

Henning Ukena :D

[@saarangnarayan123]

Wonder what Glenn Fricker thinks of this lol

[@ezassegai4793]

Saarang Narayan Glenn is a cool guy, I do like his channel but I havent heard a single good mix by him so I dont really value his opinion on line 6 products that much.

[@GuitarLessonsInsideSyracuseNY]

He thinks all Line 6 products should be destroyed and burnt. As for this particular subject on mixing. He enjoys it.

[@ezassegai4793]

StarkEpoch he just doesnt know how to tweak it. Glenn is using expensive gear and making it sound cheap. Why would anyone listen to him?

[@DavidWoodMusic]

Haha who cares? The man is a horrendous mixer.

[@xavierazad]

The guy who was hating on current gen metal? Lol who gives a shit about his opinion.

[@fredriksvard2603]

Love his playing but all those mids grate my ears

[@KUM0]

Bro this tone was sooo thin, and he didn't even cut on 4k . Was expecting more of this video

[@roryt1985]

🤫

[@saamo1423]

You need better ears

[@KUM0]

@@saamo1423 I mentioned an EQ tip and need better ears? Lmao

[@roryt1985]

@@KUM0 an unnecessary EQ tip, directed at someone (John Browne) who doesn’t need it.

[@ayeapprove]

10:28 because the bass does all the heavy lifting here. Guitars are sitting just right in this mix.

[@kambion]

Phronesis guitar sounds terrible in the mix, but also wasn't done by John.

[@goatsurgeon]

Is it just me or does the guitar audio wave in and out when he’s playing back? Sounds washy

[@PitchforkStudios]

The final guitar tone on the master sounded extremely shrill and horrible. The raw mix sounds way better.

[@shayne08]

Pitchfork Studios I think these are some of the best guitar tones I've ever heard on an album, to each is own I guess?

[@PitchforkStudios]

shayne08 yes. It sounds great in here but the masters don't to my taste.

[@IvoCabrera]

hahah good joke, i think it´s a really good tone

[@hcaz5818]

Pitchfork Studios you talk shit on like all these videos hah

[@TYFLOL]

it wasn't THAT bad, but yeh i didn't like it that much

[@savatomic2]

Say peanut butter

[@FrozenSparky]

Its actually the thinnest tone ive heard

[@MrNojam4u]

Daniel Mihaylov probably sarcasm? A good guitar tone is what works best with a bass tone... so a thin guitar and thicc bass make the best of friends

[@joshs.5384]

Right? When I think of "thick" guitar tones I either think of bands running HM-2 pedals, like Black Breath, Nails, and older DM bands like Entombed, or I think of heavy ass sludge/doom bands like Bongripper or Sleep.

[@shawnriffninjareacts7316]

A thin tone is gonna sound thick AF when you have 8 guitar tracks, 4 on left 4 on right.

[@roryt1985]

🤡

[@NecropsY1]

by thickest tone ever we mean the thinnest tone ever LUL

[@saamo1423]

Imagine using twitch emotes

[@norwardradtke1361]

this literally tells you almost nothing about how to get the thickest tone ever

[@TheVashnessItself99]

well if you listen and look he has 8 rhythm tracks, which is WILD and pans them progressively closer to center

[@sunshinenshiee3129]

it tells you to buy a Line 6 and use that EQ haha

[@alfredoandrea8345]

Axe FX, then tone stack, put two amps in block on the grid using the axe FX then use the parametric eq on the axe and try to mimic the EQ cuts as a start....then shift to what sounds good. Definitely want to use the axe dude.

[@bmeijer7776]

Yet the album it’s on is quite possibly the worst mix ever 🤣

[@thedickens6490]

It's insane to me that some people can just find those garbage frequencies when guitars are tuned so low. 4k, 5k, 10k all are hard to find

[@blunty6feetunder]

Why did god make me so broke, I need Nail The Mix in my bum life

[@URMAcademy]

It's the price of a pizza every month - invest in your passions!

[@frankjager1647]

Technically it's the price of three large carry-outs at Dominoes. (Note: NTM is worth more to me than pizza, and that's a damn hard thing to accomplish)

[@ezassegai4793]

God made you broke huh. Are you enjoying your warm bed and internet? lmao