Things Still Wrong After Patch 1.112 +FIXES - Vice City DE

[@polythelegendhedron1643]

Yeah gotta love that bloody screen effect when you die, like you're playing a Roblox game 🤮

[@FiftySixishTV]

So cheap and childish

[@spikepsych]

@@FiftySixishTV it is especially stupid when you drown to get a blood effect.

[@unoriginalperson72]

It's also just a stock blood image too

[@withyouonemogen]

4:30 Classic lighting looks soooo much better wow

[@Soadium]

Thanks for caring more than the people that actually worked on this mess

[@commanderblack5045]

Do you mean by that the studio that worked on it first or/and the studio that is fixing it now?1

[@Soadium]

Both I guess. There have been a lot of good fixes but the trilogy has still never been given the effort it deserves. 3 years for the proper lighting effects? It's ridiculous

[@commanderblack5045]

@@Soadium i agree that these games still have issues to be fixed but he doesn't showed 1 or more things that has been fixed like at 3:22, sure this update was mostly only about the map and weather itself but i have a feeling that the next patch will be mainly about the character Designs

[@Toddfrommario]

I do not understand why they don’t just hire the modders??? They ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE GAMES Why is this so hard?? It makes zero sense to give these projects to people who are not passionate about the game…

[@tim3172]

@@Toddfrommario Modders take months to work on something at their own pace and turn in perfection (or utter crap). People look at 2 decades of mods and think they happen within the timeframes required for a game to actually be released. They do not. If you don't believe me, look up the history of nearly any mod. You'll see people estimate it to be done in three months and deliver it in 8. That's one car. One (1) car. 8 months. If you employed that person to do that, it would cost tens of thousands of dollars. Anything beyond that like Total Conversion Mods take years and half a million in resources simply to adapt assets from one game to another. It's not reasonable to look at what modders *can* do and assume that they *will* do that on a tight deadline, not interspersed with other things in their lives (instead being a full-time job), etc.

[@80sVice]

0:00 The shirt. The shirt too. There are models with textures for the original game that are in high definition. And not just upscales, but redrawings. The OG shirt pattern is prety simplistic but iconic. It's not only easy to make it realistic and high definition, it's something I believe they were ought to do.

[@80sVice]

Thank you for the banger video btw, I wouldn't touch that myself, I'm still so angry about the Tommy model.

[@FiftySixishTV]

I think I was so distracted by the face, I didn't consider the shirt

[@FiftySixishTV]

But for real, if it launched like this it would've been fine. It would've just needed a little fixing up, instead of feeling like it had to be thrown away and started again

[@gordongameman]

5:01 Welcome to Vietnam. *Fortunate Son* intensifies. 1:41 I like this demonstration. After it finished I immediately hit the Like and Subscribe button. Other channels are too lazy to demonstrate things like this. Thank you.

[@FiftySixishTV]

No no, thank you

[@alonemax2912]

If more patches are coming (which is still questionable), i wish someone who's in charge of it would see this video.

[@rennmaxbeta]

The DE just makes me appreciate even more how great the original was 20 years ago..

[@deanlynch11811]

They should add an option to replay missions

[@onelefthanded6928]

We can't 100% blame Video Game Deluxe for not doing the trilogy justice, they just there to fix what Rockstar and Grove Street Games did with the remaster 3 years ago

[@commanderblack5045]

Rockstar Games didn't worked on it

[@FiftySixishTV]

All Video Games Deluxe is here for now is to pick up the pieces. It's not their mess

[@tim3172]

@@commanderblack5045 R* chose GSG, and slapped their name on it. If you buy an HP laptop and something goes wrong, do you call HP to complain or do you call Hitachi, who made the SSD that failed? Whose reputation is damaged? Sony TV, again... Sony, or MediaTek... it's Sony Chrysler product... Chrysler or ZF, who made the transmission etc. etc. etc. The manufacturer owns the issue.

[@commanderblack5045]

@@tim3172 "slapped there name on it ☝️🤓" is so a bad argument that i only heard it from less than 5 people, it is literally there the original creator of this game so why should they remove there entire name and Logo, i agree that Rockstar should not have hired a small mobile game Studio and let the games released like that but atleast they hire some other studio to let it get fixed further instead of keeping it like that and you even wrote "Rockstar HIRED them" that actually agrees on that Rockstar Games didn't worked on it but someone else

[@ericgracia5635]

ROCKSTAR all I want for Christmas is for you to fix this game as best as you can and of course restore Tommy’s face and body to its former glory. 🎄🎁

[@CrisBV-h4h]

Also bring back the classic trilogy to Steam

[@farazsiddiqui1312]

Another thing which is very minor is the punch sign its like san andreas compared to ps2 and pc

[@Djordje_Jovanovic]

I'll like to add that with this new patch water texture is thicker now & you can't see shipwrecks & a submarine anymore.

[@KaroshiSalad1987]

I'm Surprised R* Actually Took Their Time To Make The Game More Playable.

[@SeriousDragonify]

7:35 That ghosting also appears in GTA 5 and some other games not made by R.

[@NotGF903]

I knew something was off about the smoke because these cars kept exploding without even give me a warning as to when they took critical damage

[@miguelsaucedo8789]

This took three years beyond production and release.

[@Skully399-z6e]

I think a youtuber called Badinfos found 505 bugs and only some of them got fixed They even removed some buggy trees even though they were normal in the original

[@Ronin777z]

Crazy how bad they screwed so many parts of the game up, literally all they had to do was CTRL C + CTRL V and improve the graphics a bit

[@DiscoDragonFTW]

The dead dodo is still missing its giant newspaper

[@madzmedia2]

Classic lighting still looks off at 9am-1pm during sunny. The blue is really over saturated and dark.

[@TheTriangle444]

you are literally providing them free QA service in which the same employees get paid for hourly as life jobs. What a goat

[@SOK39]

I Love how Tommy gets a makeover, yet Claude still looks sad and CJ still looks confused

[@FiftySixishTV]

Did he get a makeover though?

[@SOK39]

@ it's better than before at least

[@nitrosodium]

Yes, your video exactly shows why DE is a sad edition to play even after the patch. I'm angry at how it's still missing core things like car smoke (idc if fire is a sprite atleast it kinda works). And i don't get why the mist is not PINK 4:40.

[@FiftySixishTV]

Swamp gases maybe

[@nitrosodium]

@@FiftySixishTV that has to smell bad lol

[@muhammedraashid3667]

7:50 , That's not the fault of the game itself. That is SSR (Screen Spaced Reflection) which is a reflection method used to pseudo simulate reflection based on the object visible on the screen. Used in most modern games when Ray Tracing is disabled. Just look up and down to see reflections magically disappearing. They'll have to either implement Ray Tracing or use cube maps (which looks awful and out of place BTW on open spaces, or just ignore the reflections like how the original games did. That's the only ways possible to 'fix' that issue.

[@FiftySixishTV]

Could they not just make the effect a little wider?

[@muhammedraashid3667]

@FiftySixishTV Not possible. SSR reflects whatever is visible on your screen. The 'edges' you see are the results of that artifacting. If you want real-time reflections on an open world game, either SSR or RT is your only option.

[@JLG629]

The GTA Trilogy DE is one of Rockstar’s biggest disasters. I’ve never seen them under this amount of damage control. Usually they’re just about perfect with every release. With this release, it’s like they didn’t even care. Very unbecoming of them.

[@Huguito]

Yeah!!! finally a bug video about gta vice city!! 👏👏👏

[@_justtoomanygames_8857]

The camera on GTA3 and VC badly need to be fixed. Great point about the engine damage smoke aswell.

[@PetePlayGames1992]

The fan over Tommy's bed in the Ocean View Hotel doesn't rotate

[@withyouonemogen]

9:40 well, its alright ig, it's different but at least it's not obnoxiously looping like before

[@FiftySixishTV]

Just like the rest of the game, it's better than before, but still not good

[@LightBlueIntense]

In Vice City Stories the lighting was almost on the same level as San Andreas. Just bright super nice colors in the evenings 🤩😊

[@x7bsytchannel]

How lame to fix problems by removing content present in the original... Also, Why did they change the garage door sounds? Don't they have the source files for that??

[@unoriginalperson72]

0:15 it's funny how the face remake has the same smooth plastic-like look of the definitive edition but looks infinitely better than the definitive edition! Absolutely disgraceful on Grove Street Games

[@GustavoCOD4]

Just one more patch...

[@FreeAimDog]

the hunter is the only coolest sounding helicopter in the entire gta series. makes me wonder how the sound artist made it that cool. they said for gta 3 they made the run over sound by squishing a type of fruit and chicken.

[@FiftySixishTV]

As funny as the squish sounds are in gta3 its a good thing they didn't continue to use them moving forward. They would've been right at home in this kiddy baby version of this game however

[@jytvreal]

Theres also a hidden classic radar seeting only accessible from game files, they probably forgot to put this in the settings

[@FiftySixishTV]

Interesting. There's few user settings they forgot to enable in certain platforms, its not surprising there are settings they forgot to enable in EVERY platform

[@TheNamesJER]

Really minor gripe, but I’m still annoyed that reverse lights just entirely don’t exist in the DE.

[@FiftySixishTV]

Its understandable in my opinion. The vehicle models never had a white light on the back of them to actually light up realistically, the rear lighting was originally just emanating from a disembodied box floating around each corner of the car, either red or white light. Now they've got the light coming from the lenses on the vehicle model which looks more realistic, but there's no where to put white light. San Andreas already dropped reverse lights in its original release anyway

[@TheNamesJER]

@ yeah, I know, it’s just a small thing in a list of complaints that make these “remasters” so dissappointing

[@ARMOSPHERE]

Great video thanks

[@Soadium]

It's borderline good now but still worse than og 1.40

[@Cipher_556]

The mouse vertical sensitivity in San Andreas needs a fix, it works like an analogue stick and they should disable auto centering with mouse.

[@FiftySixishTV]

The auto-centering needs to calm down on every version

[@jemangemonbras5135]

other missing detail : smaller blood stains when shooting/hitting a npc with a weapon or bare hands. This game is far from defenitive.

[@krisdreemurr_4023]

Thank you for caring about shitty details that almost no one notices, for giving them OCD, and also for mentioning some things that don't even affect the game or their experience.

[@FiftySixishTV]

👍no worries

[@miguelsaucedo8789]

Keep in mind we have AI now.

[@c.i.q.s65]

Massive respect for the amount of efforts you've made in order to create this video. I hope that Rockstar is taking notes.

[@zachhiggins1668]

I love the attitude. No reason to be sweet with these greedy mofos when we know they sit there and think "eh, fuck em" when choosing not to fix things. Or choosing to wait 3 years. And still doing limpdick ah job. I downloaded III and SA on my switch and it still looks and plays like a dirty foot

[@VILLAINOFYOURDREAMS]

Brother, I could never complete the vigilante mission using the hunter helicopter because i think there was a bug where the vehicle exploded or caught fire if you click on the menu and resume the game multiple times. It was impossible to achieve 100% in vc definitive mobile.

[@FiftySixishTV]

I failed brown thunder several times due to the hunter randomly exploding. I believe it wasn't actually "randomly" exploding, its just that because there's no smoke to indicate vehicle damage, I couldn't keep an eye on how much AOE damage I was taking from firing rockets. Its only once you see the first puff of smoke you start to be a bit more careful. But with no smoke, no careful. You just assume you were far away enough from each explosion to not take damage, and then all of a sudden with no warning, you're on fire. At least now after this latest patch you can see the fire, before you really had to look for it.

[@VILLAINOFYOURDREAMS]

@FiftySixishTV you're right. Yes, but in my case, my hunter didn't explode coz of taking damage from the enemies or explosion. It quite literally RANDOMLY exploded. I once failed at vigilante mission 4 just by pausing and resuming. And I wasn't even using rockets to destroy enemies, I was using the machine gun for this exact reason, as I thought that I was taking explosion damage.

[@FiftySixishTV]

​@@VILLAINOFYOURDREAMSI'll check that out

[@VILLAINOFYOURDREAMS]

@@FiftySixishTV I deleted the mobile definitive edition shortly after completing "Keep your friends close" simply because it was impossible to achieve 100%. I also couldn't complete the pizza boy mission.

[@altEFG]

They just should hire the guy who did RE:3 and RE:VC If he's even willing to work for them after they copyright-striked his project to oblivion

[@Im-om1nq]

7:22 i think thats TAA, the the anti-aliasing, that causes the ghosting. also happens in next gen GTA5 and Fortnite

[@overcastskyline1747]

to be honest, im scared to even request for anything else to be fixed, i think this is their greatest update of all time, though i agree theres many things that need to be fixed, theres just so many times where i have parked my car and enjoyed the view, mesmerized by so many great graphics in many areas of the game, its not perfect, but im afraid they will remove something i like, as a sacrifice to make way for another asset, if they do make another update, hopefully they just add more to it, all i want them to update is the smoke damage on vehicles, palm tree varieties like the original and smoke like bullet streaks like the original to tell where the bullets are coming from, thats it, and if theyre generous get some of the licensing sorted out and add more original tracks, heck, add some new 80s tracks i wouldnt mind, if thats the last resort.

[@LightBlueIntense]

I stick to the original trilogy. I bought the upscaled HD PS2 versions back in December 2015 and I love them. Just pure original nostalgia from my childhood ❤️

[@CrisBV-h4h]

The fact that this game has "definitive" in the name completely ruins it, because it's obvious that it will never be the definitive edition of this trilogy

[@MichaeIMorash]

The game is not 100% fixed, but Video Game Deluxe did a GREAT job, one more patch and this game will be fantastic. I believe in VGD! 🔥❤️

[@shaunwheldon190]

Man true story, when I played gta 3 and vice city as a child I thought Claude and Tommy were the same guy and then it clicked when I played SA...everyone complaining about the remaster cuz it sucks (rightfully so) and I just barely bought it because I didnt want to reexperience my favorite games completely broken. So happy they are finally fixing things gradually but this shows dont buy into hype on any new game. Quality is a thing of the past and these gaming companies know it.

[@FiftySixishTV]

Lol I also thought that about Claude and Tommy when I was like 8

[@adrian34138]

Yes that good Adress more problems they need to fix it

[@FlavioxD_]

Good work bro

[@Endless_Dark_Insanity]

I like the old fire effect with burning tires like in the hd universe, why did they remove it

[@FiftySixishTV]

Too hard to see and not what people were expecting. I would've been fine if they left that fire effect in and just fixed the goddamned smoke

[@overwatch761]

3 years on and the Trilogy is still broken. Digusting Rockstsr, disgusting.

[@ritpop]

6:34 no ai models arent production ready yet. and this is a 5 minute job or less in blender.

[@FiftySixishTV]

It just looks so shapless and melty still, like some sort of automated process was used. The circle in the middle of the original texture is not quite round, and that's been carried over to the new model as a hole that's not quite round

[@ritpop]

@FiftySixishTV I am not saying is good, I saying that call it ai so people will hate over like the textures is stupid. But anyway, the video was great ignoring that. Thanks for comparing the 3 versions

[@tim3172]

@@ritpop GSG stated outright that they used AI image upscaling on textures. They stated they used UE's intelligence of the artificial variety to generate the LOD models. You're here crying that they didn't use AI to generate the models... which "aren't production ready", when they.... used AI to generate models previously. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttt.

[@ritpop]

@@tim3172 generate 3d models is completely different from using "ai" to make lod. But sure, you probably are a ai specialist and an advanced 3d modeler which i certallly i am not

[@zossieurs]

3:59 kinda looks like GTA 4 tbh

[@NnoperzZ]

Maybe in another 10 years they will finally fix all the mentioned issues.

[@BeatleHarrison]

They're not even issues, they're nitpicks

[@FiftySixishTV]

I think you're both forgetting the word 'definitive" was used. If they called it "half-assed upscaled version" I would've had nothing to say

[@BeatleHarrison]

@@FiftySixishTV My guy it's a remaster not a remake. Who cares? As long as the game looks good and plays good (which it does now) it doesn't matter. Plus "definitive" and then complaining Tommy looks different even though he looks like Ray Liotta now is a huge nitpick

[@FiftySixishTV]

@@BeatleHarrison it doesn't play good. As soon as I stop getting second-hand embarrassment while playing it, I'll say it plays good.

[@BeatleHarrison]

@@FiftySixishTV literally only person I've seen who says it plays bad. Especially after the patch. Stop your random ass nitpicking

[@ray2dasherthedragon336]

I won't lie tho. That shot in the start is the most i seen de tommy look the closest to og tommy. But yea his model is way off

[@Lips10Sixx]

Not that it matters to anyone but, the Stallion's wheels are still wrong in VC and it annoys me deeply. lol. They messed up 3's Stallion also with it's roof not being a texture and the headlights are still messed up. It's a GTA vehicle staple. and still NO reverse lights in either 3 or VC

[@FiftySixishTV]

In all fairness, reverse lights aren't really compatible with the vehicle models and they never were, its just that the old system of a disembodied rectangular prism hanging off each corner of the car wouldn't fly these days, I understand their removal. Rockstar already made that decision and compromise in San Andreas in 2004 and dropped reverse lights

[@EmpanadaDeCaca]

i love your sense of humor lol great way to expose these rockstar cheapskates!

[@FiftySixishTV]

Thank you ❤

[@hnz4.thear-thororigins.400]

Bro! The inference engine is in the back side of the car.😂

[@FiftySixishTV]

The Infernus' smoke and fire always came out of the front, but that's an issue with the original game and I'm not here to blame that on Definitive Edition.

[@sefaagook]

tommy needs to be fully reworked. he looks like indian. his arms, legs, face are all wrong

[@derekknowles5805]

They should've used the og xbox versions models instead of remaking them Tommy doesn't wear adidas shoes anymore

[@bully33]

These remaster are the anti-RDR2. While one is perfectly coherent graphically those ‘remasters’ are all over the place. Wrong models paired with wrong textures, wrong lighting, it’s a mess really. They should would synergistically. I much prefer to play the original, way more immersive for now

[@Puxi]

Yountook this from me but added cheap sound fx

[@ewwwt]

some of these are legit, others are kinda nitpicky.

[@tim3172]

They're all "legit". Any feature that was in the original should be in the "definitive" edition, at the very least. Why would you ever publish an "improved" game that's objectively worse than its basis? R* was able to completely build VC in about 18 months, having started work before GTA3's release. You mean to tell me that two different developers couldn't reproduce that in 3 years? Please.

[@ewwwt]

​@@tim3172 maybe I'm saying this cuz I wasn't into gta until san andreas came out, I did watch a friend play vice city. (never played gta 3.) but at the time, all I thought gta was just free roam with no missions cuz, that's all he was doing. so I didn't see the appeal.... now after playing san andreas and gta 4. seeing complaints like the car rims/hub caps are different/shinny, at a first glance you don't even notice unless you compare with 2 Tv's side by side, but if you come with fresh eye's having not played the games since 2 decades ago, all you see are improvements, (unless it really sticks out like character nps wearing the wrong shirt, different face or missing color filter for the atmosphere.)

[@FiftySixishTV]

Nitpicky complaints are still legit complaints when the word "definitive" is used. Regardless, the smaller things I've picked on are just little one-percenter issues that on their own aren't a big deal, and are forgivable, but when there's dozens of those everywhere you look, it brings the whole game down. The only way to polish a turd is to get deep in between every steaming coil with the polishing cloth

[@SupremacyGamesYT]

I just dont like the game texturally, looks so pasty and flat idk.

[@FiftySixishTV]

Yeah pretty much, too smooth for the tone of the game. The new lighting helps in that regard a little though

[@Puxi]

Ypu took this from my first VC DE zideo without credit me.

[@FiftySixishTV]

Which bit? I just checked your channel and you only have one VC DE video so was that the "first" one or is there another? You pointed out some good bugs in that video that I missed, but no I didn't copy anything, this is just stuff I personally found while playing. We're playing the same game remember

[@FiftySixishTV]

Nvm I found the first one, still don't know what you're talking about

[@Puxi]

@@FiftySixishTV I am kidding, haha. Yeah, them bugs man... half hearted patch. Not for us purist people.

[@dncewzrd]

Now can the content creators stop saying that the game is fixed? 😂

[@dumbage]

crazy people are happy about this lazy update 3 years later game still looks horrible

[@BeatleHarrison]

Lazy update? They literally fixed a bunch of shit and made them much more playable. I'm not a rockstar d rider but calling this update lazy is a stretch considering the new studio fixed what they can and actually seem to care about the games more than GSG and Rockstar did

[@commanderblack5045]

​@@BeatleHarrisoni agree the video shows things like at 3:22 that where fixed with the latest update but he doesn't show it for a reason, i personally think that we can blaim Rockstar Games for letting this be released but we should atleast be thankfull that they hired now a different studio to fix it further instead of just keeping it this way

[@Emerald-Bearer]

@@BeatleHarrison Most things in the newest patch was just copy and pasted from the iOS version of the game. That certainly could be considered lazy, i think the non lazy approach would've been to adapt various fixes to the version we had on consoles already. There is lots of visual downgrades as a result, check out claude's jacket, the leather no longer looks like actual leather, worse ambient occlusion, no volumetric lighting/fog from light sources, much less foliage and trees, worse reflection detail on vehicles.. its a simple iOS rip, which was done over a year ago, so not much is new at all really. Most people are just so stuck on the Colors from the PS2 being in a lighting mode and the run n gun feature pulled from the mobile version, that they think all these fixes are new. Simple research would do a lot of good here. Heck most of the videos showcasing "before and after" are actually showing the version 1.0 launch version, not including the 3 or so game updates that released before this new 1.112 patch, which btw had already contained most of these fixes being credited to the new 1.112 update... Visuals were pretty heavily downgraded due to laziness, especially on PS5 and Series X.

[@BeatleHarrison]

@@Emerald-Bearer I've literally been playing the phone versions for the last year and know they're not new. However it still looks good on console and all this other stuff doesn't matter. 3 and VC are fixed now and are much more playable. These random nitpicky details nobody will notice doesn't matter

[@BeatleHarrison]

@Emerald-Bearer Plus they literally fixed so much more on the console versions, it's not a simple port, a lot of it is new as well

[@BeatleHarrison]

Fr fr a bunch of this just seems like nitpicking. Also y'all want Tommy to look ugly af compared to his newer model that looks like Ray Liotta (his literal voice actor)?

[@ericmadison5343]

You must be on PC that invisible road on incline is fixed shit a lot you showing is fixed on ps5

[@FiftySixishTV]

Keep in mind I'm showing befores and afters here, any footage with a maroon border is from before this latest patch

[@A-Sarcastic-Guy]

4:59 - Wait a minute. They could add a Classic Lightning Effect and improve the atmosphere, but could not rectify the spelling of Brief in the Main Menus? 🤦 It still says 🩲

[@FiftySixishTV]

It certainly does. I started to second guess whether or not any other games in the franchise had Briefs instead of Brief, but no, they all said Brief. Just one more small thing that is disrespectful to the original game devs

[@ericmadison5343]

You gotta remember this is remastered not original and bugs are all over original but as bad😊

[@AndreiCatalin42069]

And the remaster added more, and worse, don't defend mediocrity. "You gotta remember this is remastered not original" Based on that logic, do remasters have to be crapfests with downgrades and more bugs or something? Shit still ain't worth glazing over for now, hopefully it will be next update or next two updates tho.

[@FiftySixishTV]

I'm being careful not to blame GSG for bugs present in the original versions, people already did that a lot when DE first launched and got harmless things removed because they looked janky, but they were 20 year old bugs. There's so many clips I've left on the cutting room floor making these videos, now and a few years ago, of bugs I've found, but then checked the PS2 version and the bug was there too. I've learnt a lot actually

[@FiftySixishTV]

Don't forget they're the ones that said "definitive". If they said "trash edition" we'd be all like, fair enough, and move on

[@SYAMIRKHAIRI]

Maybe we will wait for another 3 years again to see this game completely fixed 🥰🥹😢