Things That Need to Change From the 2XKO Alpha Lab

[@Zachiderp]

Yea, what this Sajam guy said.

[@jordansmith7546]

I agree ( I am 0:07 into the video )

[@mct_3551]

I agree (I am not tuned in)

[@thefrogshammer2723]

Yea, what this @Zachiderp guy said.

[@nabillun]

Yeah, hear hear! Rabblerabblerabble

[@thexd2666]

This! (I just opened the video)

[@lastlunarrun6418]

the year is 2086. 15% of the League roster has been added to Texaco. Sajam dies, but on the third day, rolls back.

[@YangyChaddyDad]

✍️🔥🔥🔥

[@UncleMerlin]

🔥🔥🔥 💯💯 🧏

[@javjuegos_8917]

🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@toji_zenin_2XKO]

Absolute cinema 🖐️😩🤚

[@WebbComicsOfficial]

I really wish there were more audio cues for in game resource management. I'm legally blind, its hard sometimes to view meter or burst given that I'm playing with one eye and the eye ain't that good to begin with. Having audio cues for burst being up, for building bars of meter, for when assist is up and when last stand is up would go a long way for me personally. It would also be cool to have those things on a separate audio slider to turn it up or down on my own accord.

[@bqing87]

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[@LinguineRamone]

I think this would be great in general, not having to quickly look at your meter or if assist is up away from the action would be great for anyone

[@leoschue8071]

when you build a bar of meter it should just reuse the "LE-LE-LET'S GO" sound clip from 3rd strike

[@litapd311]

are you using a heavy amount of audio for the regular gameplay, or is it just something you're able to deal with?

[@xyz72936]

i agree i also said i wanted an audio queue for the meter since you really need them on defense

[@Cozy90X]

I fuckin love this game. Finally able to convince friends to play "WITH" me is such a great feeling. Watching them come from "i dunno man" to " "That fucker better hit the rematch butter or I'm gonna be pissed."

[@solodolo9450]

Such a good feeling

[@nicholaspinault9716]

I thought I was going insane every time I hit someone's assist, only to get hit from behind a few moments later from that same assist, so it's nice to know it's not just me. Literal definition of "call an ambulance, but not for me."

[@juice17776]

I also felt the opposite where I would hit with my assist and then their character would just get back up and do a full combo on my assist character

[@spidersonic0110]

So true 👍 (I haven't played the game or watched any footage)

[@axis8396]

As a Monster Hunter player running Kulve the last few days I feel you on people not skipping intros/cutscenes. It feels miserable when you're like "I just want to play the game" and you have to sit there for 5 minutes cause 1 person isn't paying attention

[@sijiehe1826]

As a Monster Hunter player who ran kulve not only did people not skip intros and cutscenes because often it was their first time doing the hunt, you got fucked by RNG drops. Please god capcom no more siege quests.

[@magnoUo]

As a Monster Hunter player, I want Wilds... now

[@Sorrelhas]

As a Monster Hunter player honestly just f*ck Kulve Taroth in general, both HR and MR versions

[@JameboHayabusa]

​@@Sorrelhas it was fun if you had your own team of friends. Same with extremoth. Fuxk those hints on pugs tho

[@corvoyami3192]

People wanna watch the intros and cutscenes doe, you should be able to skip yours but not others, like Tekken.

[@kata4039]

Wish the intros worked like DBFZ, where all the characters on the team come in together instead of "hi I'm Carl" and then "by the way, I'm Sarah"

[@jmcrofts]

bored sajam...... what can I do to convince you to play some mvc2???

[@lilacrain3283]

Feel like this comment is meant for a thumbnail

[@SupermanSajam]

You might be onto something

[@RePlayQ]

Jm I’ve rewatched all your Marvel stuff from 2 years ago like 10 times! Post more! 😭

[@Th3EpitapH]

7:00 not just 2 characters - if you hit illaoi and her tentacle at the same time, your combo might just not work. true pain.

[@tingispingis]

Wake up babe my opinion just dropped

[@pedroscoponi4905]

I miss it already man. The fact that the game is unfinished and the roster is so small and I'm still this thirsty for it is insane. When this thing releases for real it's going to consume my soul.

[@truearcana2126]

Level 2s taking a really long time with how often you see them is a little annoying. I kinda wish they did it like a few supers have in skullgirls, where if you hold the button it just kinda goes to the big hit with the same damage would be fun.

[@phatgrizzly3520]

I think the burst has too much going on. I think the idea of your assist character coming in to do the burst is cool, but having their assist character jump in front of who you are attacking, let out a pretty strong sfx burst. Then blocking it adding another layer of sfx, with one character getting blown back while the other falls down. It’s so jarring seeing all that play out in 1 second. Guilty gear bursts are really simple animation wise and the sfx of the burst is pretty transparent which helps a lot in reducing the visual clutter.

[@Zevox87]

The first time I blocked a burst I was utterly baffled by what had just happened because of the weird sound effect and unclear visuals. No way I was getting that punish combo. Even later, I was still super confused when it turned out I was getting the punish combo on the assist character, not the guy I was just trying to kill, because blocked burst auto-tags the opponent to their assist character for some reason. And with it happening so rarely I never did get the timing down on picking up the combo off that wallbounce right.

[@TheAmberFang]

Maybe something like SF6's Drive Impact Punish Counter could help slow things down to keep things more readable. It doesn't have to be quite as dramatic: just has to be enough for someone to consistently understand what's going on and be able to go for an ideal punish.

[@RuggaRoll]

Eh this is no big deal. Y’all will just get used to it.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

I personally feel like guilty gear is super "loud," like everything happening on the screen has huge effects, there's a big ass combo counter in the back, the announcer has always got something to say, and the game can be hard to follow until someone is put in a wall break combo. It's interesting that you prefer how guilty gear handles things in comparison. Maybe that means it comes with time and familiarity. Four characters on the screen can definitely make things harder to follow, even though the moment to moment seems clearer to me personally.

[@chryspyr]

​@@Jay-mx5ky Funnily enough, I hardly ever notice the combo counter or announcer in-game. I'm too busy looking at the meters, my character, their character, and thinking of my gameplan.

[@meguy7735]

The man is not lying. The lobby ost is fantastic.

[@magicggst]

PLS LET ME TRAINING RANGE WHILE QUEUING. Probably biggest thing for me that I didn’t see mentioned here

[@MikeyDLuffy]

I know it's probably just because of how long I've played each game, but I think so many things just "feel" better to me in GG. Like you mentioned with blocking bursts. Air movement in this game felt so awkwardly rigid for some reason but when I played Millia in GG everything felt incredibly smooth. Hitstop felt awkward, and a few others. I don't even play Strive much anymore so i'm not trying to glaze it, but everything about that game just felt smoother. That being said the idea of 2XKO and what the characters are allowed to do was great and duo's is the most fun I've had in a FG in years.

[@ThePoodle]

i do think we are just more used to strive tbh...

[@MikeyDLuffy]

@@ThePoodle definitely plays a part, but I also just think many things in 2XKO just a feel a little off right now

[@JahovasFitness]

Since you brought up pushblock having input issues, I wanna bring up something else that people had issues with which also costs meter, and that's the supers. I think they need to replace the down + down input for supers with a S1 + S2 input, and there's good reasons why. 1) Down-down is way too common of an input (especially in a hectice game like this) to attach something laggy AND meter-costing to it. It's very ez to mess up something like plink dash stance on Yasuo and getting a lvl 1 to come out instead. 2) Doing your lvl 2 already requires pressing both special buttons. They could totally do something like making S1 + S2 one of your supers, forward/back S1 + S2 for your other lvl 1, and down S1 + S2 as your lvl 2. Making it so it's a "both specials" input would fix a lot of the accidental super problem as it's lot harder to accidentally fat finger two buttons like that when you're trying to stay mobile and use a special. On top of that, it stays more in line with their vision of "no motions needed" so there's benefits all around to reworking the super commands this way.

[@Sclooshy]

For an Alpha I thought it was pretty good! Unfortunately, there was this pretty bad bug called Darius and I hope they fix it for the final release!

[@El-Burrito]

They need to add some real bugs like Kha'Zix

[@eebbaa5560]

darius was fine. ahri was the only character that actually felt like a chore to play against. yasuo was also pretty annoying

[@VoidEternal]

Hello, it is I: Historic Tag/Assist Fighter Hater/Casual. Duo is a game-changer for me in terms of liking this genre, and I feel League, with it's legendary diversity of champions to pool from really has one of the best avenues to blow this up. Really stoked to see where this goes.

[@FuriousPillow]

A tiny nitpick, but there were options in Training to keep Unbreakable on Braum and to have Bleed always on if you were Darius. I think it was under a tab in the pause menu called Character Specific Options? I can't remember completely, though. But honestly great video! I think you brought up a lot of good points, and I'm glad to hear some of the complaints I had echoed, as well.

[@Sorrelhas]

- Transparent matchmaking - Better netcode - A better menu - Better tutorials - Better training mode - Combo trials - Audio cues for when you gain meter - Audio cues for when you get Burst - Audio cue for assist cooldowns - Exclusive solo queue (wasn't much of a fan of duos) - Exclusive Duos queue - Skippable Intros, Outros - Nix the slowdown when a character dies - Do something about those feature length Level 2 animations - Assists will just jank out combos for some reason - Not happening but a man can dream, nix the lobby, just give me menus, man Those are my demands. Fail to meet them, nothing will happen

[@Dogo.R]

0 of these things are symptoms. See the legends of runeterra how to give feedback to devs post, sajam is made a video on it as well.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Wat

[@biggreenmantis5639]

i loved the game but one thing that really bothered me was that the wakeup timing feels weird to me, doing a meaty jab felt incredibly hard which is something I never struggled with on any other game. And what would usually happen is that I would whiff the jab and it would take forever for me to hit a medium or another jab, which ended up with me getting punished with a medium and there goes a character, the only thing that made me feel horrible but aside from that i could see myself playing this game for years.

[@macclubbin]

Similar thing I loved during SFxT launch: queueing up with my buddy online w voice chat and playing duos, coming up with tag combos that worked for our characters, and of course the most important part: matching our colors and costumes! All to make our teams feel like “ours”. Good stuff! Glad someone took note that game was worth learning from imo!

[@h2_]

16:40 I love 2XCatbed

[@bigeoof1804]

It’s honestly kinda refreshing to see this level of, kinda want to say excited criticism with a mix of "what I like and look forward to" and a good bit of "dear god you can’t let X stay like this." All that wrapped up in what comes off like incredibly sincere, high but tempered expectations. Didn’t get the chance to play it myself, but I heard Broski and someone else(may have been JM but don’t quote me on that) share same of the same concerns. I know for sure he mentioned wanting save states, the weird inaccessibility of burst baiting, and also brought up some people’s frustrations with the menus and them feeling rather uncooked.

[@magicalgirl1296]

Wow Mr. Jam, while my opinions on exactly what needs to change in the release version of the game aren't exactly the same as yours since I formulated them on my own, it's cool to see your feedback and I like the discussion. Anyway I hope Riot can get Ahri to the point where she has a more positive reception among the general player base.

[@petergoodspieces130]

I wish the VAs where the OGs from league and for some more cool signature voice lines like “take a break” and “break” from Ekko I think its a very fun aspect of fighting games Like GG for example has so much personality in its voice lines

[@LG555]

I would also like, if they had similar quotes for attacks they also do in League. And the fact, that Darius stole a quote from Garen (thin their ranks) is somehow funny to me.

[@eebbaa5560]

most of the VAs are fine other than darius who i really hate especially compared to league. i like ekko's VA in this game because of the lines like you said but also because the characterization is more in-line with in-game ekko so it's nice that they're trying to follow that instead of erasing him in favor of arcane ekko like in every other adaptation. in general though, the original league VAs are really, really good for all the characters and it's kind of disappointing that a lot of the 2xko voices sound like someone trying to copy the originals.

[@rasha1a]

The Yasuo VA and model don't carry the aloofness and indifference that Yasuo in league does, unfortunately

[@LG555]

@@rasha1a also, no hasagi or sorye ge ton

[@eebbaa5560]

@@rasha1a consequences of not hiring liam o’brien

[@spoogtastic]

THANK YOU! There is no freaking way you should be able to tag after your assist gets knockdown. I saw it happen so often and it just feels awful.

[@Kaphaus]

3:16 I’m pretty sure there is an option for Braum Unbreakable on/off in Training

[@Dova1489]

There for sure was, I was a braum main and remember the character specific menu

[@mikes3181]

I was able to toggle that as well. Wasn't able to find the bleed one though.

[@PoojaMan64]

Getting hit from behind for trying to combo the point character a microsecond after they tag is the most painful shit

[@SomniaCE]

At they very least they need to just do what Marvel 3 does and have each team's intro play at the same time. Having 4 unique intros is just such overkill.

[@stone5252]

They should get an Anti-Cheat that doesn't take my firstborn.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

Yeah, the situation after hitting the assist or baiting a burst (specially on whiff, but also on block) were definitely the most confusing parts of the game. I also feel like Fuse autocombos from Mediums and Heavies could stand to be a bit better when meterless. Sometimes you have to start with 5M/5H for range, and I've seen new players intentionally spamming 5L instead because the others feel underwhelming.

[@aaronmikeborda3777]

I get the feeling characters falling out during happy birthday is intentional because the damage is high so potentially a duo, especially one with new players just mashing assist, could lose from one combo. The way it is rn the assist continues to be combo'd but they can regain life after being saved. Do I think they should still be blown up? Maybe, but it's worth noting they're probably trying to make it so that both players at least get to play. I think if I were new, just called one bad assist and I got smoked without being on screen it'd turn me away.

[@samuraileo1]

Loved the gameplay but one thing I wasn’t a fan of how the corner didn’t seem all that scary. People will give up the whole screen backing up and hitting someone in the corner didn’t do much more than hitting mid screen. It leads to a lot of time outs. It could be lack of knowledge on corner combos but idk.

[@gavinator70]

I don't think you should be able to hit confirm ahri's S1 into a combo / mixup. This move simply just does EVERYTHING for you. It really should just knock you down instead of extend

[@Rumcake256]

This Sajam guy knows what he's talking about. People should listen to his feedback.

[@BurningWaterpark]

if the point chracter gets hit the assist still comes out and you can kind of combo breaker with 2xassist this way and its bullshit. make assists shut down when you get hit

[@mythmage8231]

My 2 cents: -Accidentally selecting Pulse while plowing through the customization options was a reoccurring issue, and I'd like for that to be addressed in some way. -On the topic of the Pulse fuse, give players an optional toggle to disable the effects of Pulse. That way, experienced players can play with new players without sabotaging their own controls. -Ahri should be streamlined a little to do shorter combos that do roughly the same damage. 10 hits for 30%, instead of 43 for the same amount, for example. It'll help curb Ahri player frustrations, but most importantly, it'll cut down on time spent in Ahri's pressure, which was definitely the worst part of playing the game. -Simple inputs certainly cause just as many problems as they solve, so it would be nice to have an option between traditional and simplified, or even a hybrid of the two, which could be cool. -I wish there was a less social-anxiety inducing way to queue for a duo match in SoloQ. I want to play duos, but my friend isn't always on. -Parry felt like it had basically no active frames, and sometimes didn't even give you plus frames when landing it, making it feel rather underwhelming. -This is a very personal thing, but I want neutral duck to avoid grabs. Neutral ducking to avoid certain moves and follow up with a punish is the most hype form of defense in fighting games. -Picking character themes. Or, at least, a way to disable Ahri's

[@TandemTuba]

Just off vibes, I feel like Ekko was the first character that a dev/the dev team was SUPER passionate about. He's such a well put together character. Just needs a little power level smoothing.

[@Grimace002]

can't wait for the sajam slam 2xko edition

[@arielsuave]

I actually

[@terrestrialsoup]

couldn't agree more with your last statement. I want to play more, but its been taken away and there's no other fighting game I want to play now.

[@NeoWokio]

thank god, sajam has published his thoughts on Tuco. Now I will know what to think.

[@jcaSuperBuddha]

Just popping in to mention that the DoTA 2 in-client tutorials are very comprehensive and helpful at this point.

[@BombDoggy]

So thinking about this and one thing i really want to talk about is the tag in that makes you feel bad cause you hit a player and they tag into a character on the other side of the screen now you get punished. I am not a versus player, I honestly have never been a fan of MvC. So I cannot compare how it feels and why it feels bad. (But I can follow the logic train and understand why it would) To me, it felt like an intentional design choice, and probably one centered around having teams. If I were to find a happy medium, I might consider either making this a feature locked behind playing 2's (it would further give incentive to play this way) or make it a fuse. (We could even discuss certain fuses being locked behind solo/team, but that may be too much.)

[@sangera]

Not only have I not played this game, nor do I care for the game, but this is now my opinion, thanks Sajam.

[@Gabrol]

you pretty much covered all my feedback in the first 4 mins

[@UnreliableJester]

My main team was illaoi Darius and was lethal. Especially with fury, getting them with a meaty combo just felt great. Especially with illaoi looping her tentacles in the corner with Darius shoulder tackle. Just felt amazing

[@hunterdavis9941]

3:14 I think they did have that, at least in the PS5 training mode I saw the option for character states.

[@jacobyoung935]

I thought a lot about pushblock and meterless defense, and I think I pinpointed my main problem. The reason I prefer the weaker but free pushblocks of other games is the flexibility and consistency. I think the backstep is meant to fill that role, but it's fundamentally less flexible and doesn't really cover the corner. I'm not a game designer, but there's gotta be something that can be done there. I can live with the mental stack of how overstuffed with mechanics this game is, but something about defense needs a little tuning.

[@hazeddon]

I also think you should start with 1 bar. It's crazy how you can lose a character before gaining access to half the games defensive mechanics.

[@Soleiolei]

i kinda hope that they decide to do something like increasing meter gain while the point has no/less than 1 bar instead of just giving one from roundstart, parry and pushblock feel quite strong so i think not having access to it and other metered options (like Ekko install, Darius dp > super and generally higher damage routing) immediately isn't a bad thing but it makes it easier to access stuff like parry/pushblock a little more frequently

[@CriptlordFTW]

Happy for all the people who were in a region eligible for this test 🙂

[@Inso_yuugen]

The visual clarity still needs some work. For the most part things are decently visible for the majority of the time but there are moments where so much stuff happens that characters just kinda of blend into the background and the effects.

[@gingeral253]

2:41 Be careful

[@Captain_Bobvious]

As a casual better than average but not anywhere near good enough to compete player, game was super fun. Lobby system was weird but this was my first tag fighter and it seemed relatively easy to pick up once you learn how combos work

[@BIaziken2]

I had a lot of issues with the games inputs, beyond no motions which I'm not a fan of I didn't like neutral assist being the launcher, felt like I'd try to do an assist while moving around get it all the time. Also didn't like some of the input overlaps like with Yasuo's 3[H] command normal and the launcher (why does the game need two launchers btw?) Overall my impressions weren't super positive, barely felt the desire to play it despite the limited time access.

[@hazeddon]

Oh my God, I'm glad I'm not the only one who HATES the burst wall bounce. They really should fashion them to be more like Guilty Gear bursts where they just have landing recovery. This would also open up more creativity with punishing them. You can invul through the explosion with Ekko roll or armor through it with Braum shield. It'll provide more opportunities for out plays.

[@El-Burrito]

All those lobby features you mention I really hope they add. Basically a bunch of streamer-centric lobby features. Like if you see Max or Justin or Sajam playing on a cabinet, you're gonna wanna go queue on the cabinet to fight them, not the random schmuck they're already playing against. I remember watching Max play in the SF6 battle hub and if he lost a match, he just had to go to a new cabinet and everyone had to re-queue against him.

[@Figsfelps]

Im missing this game already

[@VulcanBaum687]

I can't believe people didn't play illaoi. I played her with Darius and oh my god was it fun as hell. Timing her assist just right so the tentacles come out while Darius is hitting a hard knock down to then extend the combo more with the tentacles grab! Shit was pure, unadulterated, kino. Dopamine straight into the ol noggin.

[@sozi6862]

Yeah I hope they change the announcer or sell me announcer packs LOL Super excited for the next build, hopefully an open beta 🙏 Can't wait to see more characters too!

[@Zetaha]

I played Illaoi the most, both solo and in duos. The assists are good, I just wish the back assists would start from further behind the point as I got hit a lot trying to contests ahri / ekko assists - it's probably that their assists are too good. In neutral, I struggled a lot and ended up just swinging 6S1, I don't mind this, I think she is supposed to be slow and struggle against faster characters, it was just a bit boring in duos where we did not have the synergy to call assists properly. In solo, where I can patch her neutral with assists as I see fit, she feels a lot better. I explored a bit what she can do with tentacles down, it was so much fun and rewarding.

[@erichurtado4938]

Hey developers, this Sajam guy definitely was copying my homework, he said exactly what I was thinking for sure.

[@AWanderingSwordsman]

They should make it so you can set skip or watch intros and it only plays the intros if both people are set to watch (which can be default). Even on watch, can still skip manually like currently.

[@Kinslayu]

Told them everything I learned, thanks sandwich jam

[@outthefryinpan]

The push block should definitely take a page from GG Strive where when you hold it, it starts draining your meter

[@Weebfox]

Thats also how I felt (I havent played the game)

[@magpie54]

The input buffer feels way too short for me. Pressing A-B-C in a sequence for a simple combo often results in A-C which drops the combo. I have to awkwardly pause in order for my combos to work. My other issue is the super input. I really dislike it because it can be accidentally inputed when crouch blocking. Or when I want to wake up super, I kept getting wakeup attack because of the overlapping input

[@spooky6703]

The idea of voice comms in a fighting game filled me with *such* a primal dread.

[@MrPartyeagle]

Darius/ Ahri with double down fuse was one of the most fun degenerate things I have done in a while. Darius down+s2 into supper DHC Ahri ball held to get a combo conversion off of DP or force a mix on block was truly some mahvel shit.

[@stigurna]

I don't have time to watch the video but I will give my feedback here Ahri S1 is a very easy to use but hard to deal with tool Pulse fuse L L L goes into a launcher which can mess up people whose friends are picking up pulse fuse, which is something the dev team have implied they want to avoid. Rapidly pressing L is a very common way to abare and hit confirm for even intermediate players, and the auto combo window is pretty large. This can also mess up intermediate players who want to use the auto combo fuse to learn new characters in matches rather than training mode. I really love the pulse system, I think it's hands down the best auto combo system but it could be better.

[@Oblivion776]

I'll summarize the video: blah blah game balance blah blah mechanics blah blah WE GOT BOTH CATS

[@rdubyeah]

After a full week of being “Surprise 🦊”’d, I no longer was ever surprised. Playing against a single Darius Ahri who literally just sat back with DP + Surprise and did corner bleed pressure ruined the game for me. That team needs to have their kneecaps shot and arms amputated before I play against them again in their current state. Can’t pushblock, can’t retreating guard, ahri covers parry timing and everything TODs, even a DP. It was the least interaction I’ve ever had in a fighting game.

[@razorfgc]

Idk if it's like this in other tag fighters but it really feels wrong that bursting gives you oki afterwards like if im cornered and i manage to find an opening and hit u, u just burst and go right back to doing corner pressure. I feel like it should reset back to neutral

[@meekdood]

Didnt get to play the alpha test but I really agree with this say jam guy

[@Zevox87]

I would love to give them my feedback. For some reason still haven't gotten the survey, though...

[@ElvisMaximus1]

For whatever reason I got it last week, so I had to search for it. Might be where yours is as well?

[@Zevox87]

​@@ElvisMaximus1 Nope, I don't get enough e-mails to miss one like that, and I've checked my spam folder. Just haven't gotten it.

[@Ven-xj8qx]

I really wish there were motion inputs in exchange for not having to use 2 whole buttons for special moves. My fightstick only has 8 buttons and there are a bunch of macros that I want to use, but can't because all the button slots are takent.

[@tj_puma]

Im not sure if anyone else did this, but I just changed the character voices to Japanese and alot of the pain went away lmao

[@someawesomeguy4415]

I know this is where i should put it, and it only happened to me once but i need to know if this happened to somebody else, i hit a timewinder as ekko and they appeared blue when they get put in that stun lock, and insta woke up, idk if its cause they hit the wall or if it was bugged but it happened

[@Switcheroo4542]

can somebody please explain why Sajam opened up the video with "tuco salamanca"

[@eduardoserpa1682]

It's because 2XKO is a pretty dumb name for the game, so people try to call it anything else. I've also seen Texaco, 2 Chicos, Tio Chico, and Tchutchuco.

[@frustratedlemur]

Me having a blue tooth keyboard should not interfere with my main controller. Steam should not interfere with my controller. Having two controllers plugged in should also not interfere with my controller 😂 there was so many things bugging out the controls

[@damonblack1495]

So before I even watch I'll just mention some things I think they need to fix. As I have no idea where and how to give feedback. I could not figure out how to actually play any online games. When you hit play or whatever it puts you in this tekken 8-esk lobby. I hit find game, it highlights different parts of the lobby but when I approaching anything I hit every flipping button and nothing would happen. Then the timer would just time out. I tried for a little over half an hour to play an online match and nothing would work. So I only had access to the tutorial and practice. And I only played for one evening because that got pretty boring fast. So my feedback is going to be make getting into a match much much much easier. Very important.

[@daniell.3395]

Genuinely no idea how you had issues, probably an issue with your controller or inputs. You pressed a bunny on to queue, run to the highlighted cabinet, then press A to join the cabinet. If that wasn't working, it seems more specific to you than the game as a whole

[@STie95]

Let's push for these changes in the 2032 open beta!

[@ThePoodle]

where did everyone get the idea that it's never coming out? they literally announced it for 2025 release.

[@STie95]

@@ThePoodle People are riffing on how it took 8 years for 2XKO to get to a public alpha state with 6 characters.

[@pokemooney9329]

What other versus game would you recommend for someone who struggles with tag fighters and wants to learn to prep for this game?

[@FellVisage]

On the topic of fury, i EXTREMELY hated playing against fury as an illaoi player having to play around my own character's tools just because my opponent has fury active is extremely frustrating, I just feel like there's no way people should be able to do getup attack dash cancel on my tentacles. i literally had to choose to be a different character by just not summoning tentacles on my combos vs fury because there's no way to stop them doing it, i can't move the tentacle or do anything to remove it's hurtbox so the getup attack is entirely guaranteed and they can crouch cancel block immediately after dash cancelling. Most awful feeling i had all alpha.

[@FlyXcur]

I already did my survey and I swear if you bring up something that blanked my mind at the time of writing it I'ma....uh be more through on my thoughts before completing another survey.

[@edfreak9001]

so is there an actual mechanical advantage to playing duos or is it just fun because if it's not just better somehow i fear it's basically just going to be "you are a youtuber making a video with a friend" mode

[@thedocmmd1366]

I feel like the hitstop on the moves is dramatically slowing the game down, which is a reason why people might be saying combos are too long, I think the length is fine but why is Darius hitting me and I feel like I’m going in slow motion?

[@Cobbbler]

This is the *one* thing I would change, if I could. Just speed up the game a bit. Kinda feels like it's underwater right now.

[@vstalbain]

The one thing I'd like to see changed (besides the music, cos it's not exciting at all) is, I'd prefer the damage to be lowered and the games set to a single round like older versus games (I never played DBFZ or BBTag, so I don't know if they do the same thing). Matches feel really long, and combined with the old precedent, I found that it confused a my friends. Literally every time I played this game in Duos and my partner called last game, they would prematurely say "Alright cool, GGs" and I'd have to remind them we only won/lost one round. One of my poor friends prematurely called GGs twice, lol. I don't even think the damage needs to be lowered significantly; this is currently a 2-3 touch game on a single character, and making it a 3-4 touch game would probably do the trick.

[@rasako9742]

Idk man, the Ionia stage theme and the main menu are pretty fire. But the rest is kinda whatever

[@jameslevang2254]

Is there some kind of official survey or way to submit feedback to the devs?

[@remabtw]

do you agree with the timer being at 120 seconds? i swear i've never had this many timeouts in a game ever.

[@claydeangelis4009]

I felt like normals were kinda shitty for controlling space. You either have slow long range poke normals or tiny fast jabs and not really anything in between to stop someone from dashing in your face on reaction. Led me to just jumping around whiffing air normals, hoping they walk into a counter hit

[@solardeathflame]

Also for real, maybe adding fury just as mechanic and not a fuse, but just bring the percent down from 40 to like idk 15 and keep the dash cancel imo, I could be wrong. that way they can make a new fuse?

[@nubanimator]

If you dash with pressing forward, you won't accidentally get pushblock if you buffer it in blockstun.

[@Firjiwater]

I find it weird that I didn't get a feedback survey. I assume it's because I got in with a friend referral. Why miss out on all that info though?

[@spageddie47]

My biggest complaint is that I wanna play this with friends who don't really play fighting games and would need the pulse fuse on, which is totally fine but i just wish i could just keep my controls and let them have the pulse controls.

[@celuiquirevient]

I'm coping with your video because i aint got no feedback survey link.