What happened to the Suns!?

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Thinking Basketball

Thinking Basketball

2 ай бұрын

Why have the Suns been eclipsed in the standings? And what on earth happened in their game against the Clippers before the 2024 NBA playoffs? This watch along reaction film breakdown details the Suns defensive issues, their offensive problems and how Los Angeles was able to keep them out of the paint behind Paul George and Russell Westbrook.
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@FlyWithMe_666
@FlyWithMe_666 Ай бұрын
Trade Durant, Booker, Beal. Rebuild around Bol Bol.
@MrRETROPSY
@MrRETROPSY Ай бұрын
❤ for bolbol
@TribeofFavor
@TribeofFavor Ай бұрын
Wild!
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior Ай бұрын
Shaq? That you?
@jk-pc1iv
@jk-pc1iv Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣💯😊
@JoshOkigie
@JoshOkigie Ай бұрын
We found Shaq burner 😭😭
@chungheilau318
@chungheilau318 Ай бұрын
I think the suns' homecourt is kind of cursed. There are always some crazy huge meltdown for them in that court💀
@KratosAurionPlays
@KratosAurionPlays Ай бұрын
I feel like it's been this way ever since they changed the name to footprint center in the middle of the nba finals 💀
@CyrogenicNation
@CyrogenicNation Ай бұрын
What'd you expect from the court that put pickles on their nachos instead of jalapenos
@thebluebeyond2329
@thebluebeyond2329 Ай бұрын
This is the first thing that came into my mind.
@zsomborszigeti6797
@zsomborszigeti6797 Ай бұрын
The suns are just simply horrible in close matches and 4th quarters, there's a meltdown no matter where they are.
@injusticeanywherethreatens4810
@injusticeanywherethreatens4810 Ай бұрын
Putting pickles in nachos is reason enough for the Suns to receive all the punishment that they do...
@IHadToMakeThisAccount
@IHadToMakeThisAccount Ай бұрын
Oddly, the Official NBA KZbin page has not posted highlights of this game😂 even though its been over 12 hours
@rob.j.g
@rob.j.g Ай бұрын
Just went up now
@fallenangel_1941
@fallenangel_1941 Ай бұрын
fuckin haters
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Ай бұрын
The media hasn't said anything about LeFlop not getting ejected and suspended for elbowing dude in the head AND calling a ref a "fish bass ni88".
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Ай бұрын
The media hasnt said anything bout how LeFlop called a ref a fish bass jigger... true story
@StillKeepOnLosing
@StillKeepOnLosing Ай бұрын
Meanwhile the media hasnt said anything about LeFlop calling a ref a fish bass jigg with a ER at the end. True story.
@maartenvz
@maartenvz Ай бұрын
Its so good to see Bol Bol still making rookie mistakes in year 5... And carelessly jogging back on defence and getting outrun by zubac, i can see why he got pulled so fast
@MikeWazowskisBurner
@MikeWazowskisBurner Ай бұрын
I love how he was looking around for a Clipper to guard while Zubac was running two steps ahead of him, as if someone else was going to pick up Zubac lol
@DonnyZofChaos
@DonnyZofChaos Ай бұрын
Those are, at least, Eric Gordon shots..like, he will make those.............sometimes LOL
@lamproskotsos
@lamproskotsos Ай бұрын
As a suns fan and a thinking basketball fan this is both painful and exciting to watch
@marcr196
@marcr196 Ай бұрын
Idk how you're a fan of both. Ben Taylor doesn't really hide his dislike of players who don't play in a maximally analytically sound way, and our franchise player for sure doesn't.
@davidkoo6236
@davidkoo6236 Ай бұрын
​@@marcr196I'm in the same boat as OP, and for me personally, while the Suns will always be my team - being a basketball fan/nerd always comes first
@ianslee4765
@ianslee4765 Ай бұрын
@@marcr196 thats your mistake for assuming that beal or booker are this persons favorite player.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. Ай бұрын
@@marcr196 Many reasons to like either, and the person doesn’t have to only care about one side of analytics
@joshualim4218
@joshualim4218 Ай бұрын
@@Jonathan-A.C. You should see Awful Coaching's analysis
@nicholaspryplesh9396
@nicholaspryplesh9396 Ай бұрын
😂 love these watch alongs, I was shocked when I say that box score at the end of the 1st
@demon_lover9139
@demon_lover9139 Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's fun to see adjustments (or not), as well as some looks at players who play out of the spotlight; like Grayson and Mann.
@TheDuke4100
@TheDuke4100 Ай бұрын
This watch along format is brilliant
@Najo817
@Najo817 Ай бұрын
You should do more of these on KZbin. They're fun.
@JuanTonSoupXP
@JuanTonSoupXP Ай бұрын
Speaking of suns, a black hole a billion times larger than our sun was discovered with over 140 trillion gallons of water swirling around it recently. The scale of that is insane
@lukyluk_py
@lukyluk_py Ай бұрын
Holy crap
@JuanTonSoupXP
@JuanTonSoupXP Ай бұрын
@@lukyluk_py the 140 trillion gallons number came from using all the water on earth and multiplying it by 140 trillion - just to get an estimate of how much water there is swirling 😶‍🌫️
@Benjamin-ty5rl
@Benjamin-ty5rl Ай бұрын
140 trillion times the 350 quintillion gallons in the ocean, even more insane
@JuanTonSoupXP
@JuanTonSoupXP Ай бұрын
@@Benjamin-ty5rl fucking hell lol. That’s terrifying
@anonymousOrangutan
@anonymousOrangutan Ай бұрын
u got the numbers all wrong g, 140 trillion gallons is nothing on a cosmic scale... according "the times of india" the actual number is 140 trillion times the combined volume of all water on earth. a quick google search reveals that theres about 300 million trillion gallons of water on our planet. now imagine that 140 trillion times over. now thats SCALE brother. also, to complete this erratum, the black hole isnt a billion times larger than our sun. what does larger even mean? are we talking mass? or radius? anyway "the times of india" puts it as "20 billion times more massive than our sun" which is mind boggling. one last thing, i checked an article from NASA's jet propulsion lab and they say that its water VAPOR. idk what you meant by "swirling" but i imagined an accretion disc of ocean water which got me curious. glad i could debunk that for myself and whoever else may have silly ideas. thanks for the fun fact, and lowkey thanks for getting it wrong. learned a lot 👍🏾
@benwong5582
@benwong5582 Ай бұрын
Damn, Clippers with and without Russ is night and day
@shorewall
@shorewall Ай бұрын
He brings so much energy.
@heimonen5174
@heimonen5174 Ай бұрын
Yes, finally. Clippers were mediocre only 3point shooting team without Westbrook. No driving rebounding but isolation only it was boring to watch.
@JohnDoe-kt9em
@JohnDoe-kt9em Ай бұрын
Dbook had PTSD from Westbrook last year
@marcr196
@marcr196 Ай бұрын
From what? Suns beat them. Never heard so much crazy talk from perpetual losers as Clippers fans.
@dav9612
@dav9612 Ай бұрын
Fr LOLOL
@pagman2356
@pagman2356 Ай бұрын
@@marcr196 Oh wow, the Suns beat the Kawhi less (for most of the series), PG less Clippers lead by a 35 yo way past his prime Westbrook. Shocker.
@marcr196
@marcr196 Ай бұрын
@@pagman2356 Nah I'm talking about the playoffs in 2021 and 2023. Clippers haven't beaten the Suns except in the regular season
@hanschristopherson8056
@hanschristopherson8056 Ай бұрын
The suns just aren’t a well constructed roster, you need complimentary pieces not three guys that all do the same thing at an elite level
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Ай бұрын
That makes no sense. Too much talent is bad
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt Ай бұрын
I think it's HOW more than WHO. Yes, obviously if you had better role players it works better -- Tatum, Brown and KP have all the same problems as KD, Booker and Beal -- but there are some things you can do to unstick ball stoppers. It's mainly about how they get into those isolation and PnR actions. Phoenix needs to steal from GS, Sacramento, Miami and OKC. Their offense is very perfunctory. They run stuff "through"'the bigs but it's in name only. They're very static. Actually run the offense through Nurkic (like GS or Miami or Sac) and use a lot of movement for Beal. Get him moving off ball and make Beal your "primary" option the way Ray Allen was in Boston or how Miami uses Duncan Robinson. That's what he did when he was younger. He just ran floppy. Get him going downhill with guard to guard and toss actions. Then make Booker the point guard. Pound it into his head that he is the point guard. He is really good at playing that way; getting shots within the flow while being a conductor. Better at that than doing a mediocre Luka Doncic impersonation. Then KD is KD. Lots of high pick and pop with him as the screener but otherwise he plays off everyone else. Think how OKC uses Chet or Boston uses KP. Use KD's gravity to create gaps for everyone else then attack when he gets a mismatch (like KP) Nurkic and especially Allen fill in the gaps just fine. So does Gordon. And Royce gives them seven legit guys. The problem is when left to their own instincts, KD is a heavy iso guy who is content to try to beat teams with shot making and he rubs off on Booker and Beal. So your job as a coach is to prevent that. Vogel has kind of done the opposite. They play into their worst habits and exacerbate them.
@McSnuff29
@McSnuff29 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahurtsir, this is Wendy’s. No jk jk this was great however the phoenix suns employ Frank Vogel.
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt Ай бұрын
@@McSnuff29 Yeah I wasn't a big fan of that hire. Especially with more creative offensive coaches like Ime, Nurse, Atkinson, Stotts and Jordi Fernandez available.
@McSnuff29
@McSnuff29 Ай бұрын
@@michaelahurt Ime coaching the rockets bc he was getting some young tail at the office is so crazy to me. He would’ve been perfect for Booker
@TolbertOseiOwusu
@TolbertOseiOwusu Ай бұрын
Another masterclass from Ben Taylor ❤
@LoganNagol
@LoganNagol Ай бұрын
1:08 Russell Westbrook is 35 years old and that shit looks just so damn easy for him
@Enthusiast230
@Enthusiast230 Ай бұрын
People love celebrating Russell's decline and enunciating his decline by linking it to his game being primarily reliant on his athleticism, which downplays his legacy by dumbing it down to "He was only good because he was athletic when he was younger" and "He can't adapt to a game where he cannot play off his athleticism" it's nice to see him show off his athleticism and show people that he's still got it, he's just playing in a different role.
@michaelbuto305
@michaelbuto305 Ай бұрын
@@Enthusiast230 Nah, stamina, prone to injury, ability to recovery are way different. He might still have the brain to avoid all of those things, but body cant lie. Specially he was and still is iso-player be it defense or offense, thats a time-bomb. Even Gianniss got small injury yesterday just the fact he playin too hard.
@Enthusiast230
@Enthusiast230 Ай бұрын
@@michaelbuto305 Russ is 36 and currently averages more games per season than LeBron. Russ is literally one of the most durable players of all time, and rarely sits out due to injury. He probably would have played 400+ consecutive games had Beverley not given him that career altering injury.
@justinholland6132
@justinholland6132 Ай бұрын
@@Enthusiast230 why compare him to lebron lmao. Lebron is 39. Wouldn’t it be better to compare him to a younger guy?
@guymuhimbaze4579
@guymuhimbaze4579 Ай бұрын
@@michaelbuto305 all players have small injuries, the way russ be punching shit his hand should've been broken 4-5 times. Players and medical staffs choose how to deal with them i don't think that any medical staff can tell russ to sit down.
@harrisonjames4393
@harrisonjames4393 Ай бұрын
Loving the watch-alongs Ben, keep up the great work!!
@rob.j.g
@rob.j.g Ай бұрын
Hope Westbrook starts in the playoffs, feels like Harden's been in a slump for a while now
@shorewall
@shorewall Ай бұрын
They need to play the hot hand. They got 4 guys who have been All stars and MVP candidates. They are nearing the end of their careers, and PG, Russ, and Harden all want to win their first Championship. There should be no ego and just do what is best for the team.
@michaelbuto305
@michaelbuto305 Ай бұрын
@@shorewall The sad reality is, even if you want to focus yet the body just couldnt handle it. Playoff way way more punishing that regular season. Recovery for Old vs Young clearly goin to shows.
@shorewall
@shorewall Ай бұрын
@@michaelbuto305 Oh yeah, I don't think they are going to win. But this team of former superstars has been remarkably low ego for such a "superteam". I'm rooting for them to do well.
@pau6762
@pau6762 Ай бұрын
I listen to the Pod on 1.3x and going from the defensive awards pod to this, it sounds like Ben was plastered recording this 😂
@bpnation37
@bpnation37 Ай бұрын
Can’t believe people try to compare Bol Bol to Wemby. Mf is horrible on defense
@bb1111116
@bb1111116 Ай бұрын
It’s Shaq who pushes the Bol Bol is as good as Wemby nonsense.
@BigBoyDanny123
@BigBoyDanny123 Ай бұрын
Love these play by plays!
@TheDuke4100
@TheDuke4100 Ай бұрын
Please do more of this
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 Ай бұрын
Thumbnail is the best
@jemirtoussaint4940
@jemirtoussaint4940 Ай бұрын
This is the polar opposite version of ‘Awful Coaching’ bashing terrible team defense 😭 I’m here for both breakdowns though
@CountFisco
@CountFisco Ай бұрын
My life wont be complete until we get an Awful Coaching/Thinking Basketball collab
@jdrmanmusiqking
@jdrmanmusiqking Ай бұрын
Awful Coaching is funny sometimes but the bit gets old fast and he really doesn't know as much as his screaming suggests
@wmeo5349
@wmeo5349 Ай бұрын
I like this format, would watch some more
@dimelo58
@dimelo58 Ай бұрын
Love the watch alongs
@fitztanciangco9311
@fitztanciangco9311 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this play by play analysis. You actually made me a jokic big facilitator like, rather than a traditional big. Seeing the basketball in a new perspective
@thegoodreaper
@thegoodreaper Ай бұрын
Suns have three of the best scorers in the league but no one who can actually initiate the offense, it all seems so disjointed and it's not as if Vogel is a bad coach.
@brendanbloom3366
@brendanbloom3366 Ай бұрын
All 3 can initiate the offense
@thumpthumptv1651
@thumpthumptv1651 Ай бұрын
? Kevin Young is the coach on O, you don’t bring Vogel for offense.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Ай бұрын
Vogel is not good at offenses it's defense where he works his magic.
@Sotanath86q
@Sotanath86q Ай бұрын
offensively he's very questionable, but Durant and Booker shouldnt need much coaching to score
@7jcjg
@7jcjg Ай бұрын
@@brendanbloom3366 lmfao for themselves, you see Beal try to run the offense? he tries a switch, nothing, so he dumps the ball to GRAYSON ALLEN instead of, you know, resetting the play! he cannot, just look at it..
@manny0421
@manny0421 Ай бұрын
Also Ben, have you ever thought yourself to be a nba coach or assistant bc I believe you’re very knowledgeable and could be good on a team
@thinkinginsideout4053
@thinkinginsideout4053 Ай бұрын
then, we'll not have these quality content. Ben should stay a creator.
@TheMissinLink
@TheMissinLink Ай бұрын
He answered this on a patreon QaA not too long ago. He has been offered coaching jobs, but has no interest.
@BentoBoxBill
@BentoBoxBill Ай бұрын
I think a happy medium would be Ben breaking down play concepts, stuff like Spain pick n roll, horns, the triangle etc etc. it's great content and Ben can be everyone's coach
@kanajingly8957
@kanajingly8957 Ай бұрын
@@TheMissinLink Good on him.
@sparx2565
@sparx2565 Ай бұрын
2:30 This help by Booker is fine, if he isn't there it's a free lob on the roll
@aniprabhu2239
@aniprabhu2239 Ай бұрын
Trying to learn the game and was about to ask why this was a bad decision by Booker. I would think leaving open a 35% 3pt shooter would be the preferable option to allowing an easy lob to a 7 foot center. Glad you commented this.
@geefryherrera3261
@geefryherrera3261 Ай бұрын
Being down 37 in the 2nd quarter while trying to stay away from the play-in is just crazy... Can't take Booker and KD serious no more.
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632 Ай бұрын
breaking news: if you have a bad game at a bad time then you cannot be taken seriously anymore. Dirk never should have been taken seriously after losing in the 1st round to the Warriors in 2006 i guess
@ludnqka
@ludnqka Ай бұрын
@@mayitakeyourhatsir8632 tell me an important game where devin booker performed well. just one. he averaging 12 point on horrible splits for elimination games .. kd can't win shit without curry
@notmytruthTHEtruth
@notmytruthTHEtruth Ай бұрын
@@ludnqka an important game where Booker played well? Any game that led to game 6 of the NBA Finals maybe? Y'all really do love narratives. Mind you, I'm not defending booker's play this year it's awful
@ludnqka
@ludnqka Ай бұрын
@@notmytruthTHEtruth they had a 0-2 lead and choked their brains out like he usually does
@marcusbrown4933
@marcusbrown4933 Ай бұрын
@@ludnqkaCrazy thing about KD, he keeps putting himself in these same terrible situations. Roster is just poorly constructed.
@notmytruthTHEtruth
@notmytruthTHEtruth Ай бұрын
This shit hurts so much. Why are we so cursed?
@ballerx1683
@ballerx1683 Ай бұрын
The kardasian curse!
@EvA1_Anahein
@EvA1_Anahein Ай бұрын
The Luka Special
@notmytruthTHEtruth
@notmytruthTHEtruth Ай бұрын
@@EvA1_Anahein Luka is great and I wish we had him BUT that loss was because of the Mavs stifling defense and our trash ass worthless coach. A lot of other factors too but Luka was only 20% of that loss.
@ItsGamingFancy
@ItsGamingFancy Ай бұрын
​@@notmytruthTHEtruth the Luka Special is the curse Booker cast on himself when he was frontrunning and trash talked Luka flopping like he doesn't flop all the time
@JoseTorres-rn1fh
@JoseTorres-rn1fh Ай бұрын
I like these kinds of videos. Great job, sir. 👍
@sylvonbryant2786
@sylvonbryant2786 Ай бұрын
Paul George and Russell Westbrook are great defenders together. I remember when my sixers played them in OKC on their first go around. They're always in the right place doing the right things.
@uuh4yj43
@uuh4yj43 Ай бұрын
oh yeah, that was a great defensive team, i hope we see the defensive effort from them in the playoffs. if they do i might start believing in this clippers team.
@winter9242
@winter9242 Ай бұрын
The problem with russ is consistency. Sometimes his motor on the defensive end is low where he's just standing and ball watching but when he's lock in he's a good on ball defender
@sylvonbryant2786
@sylvonbryant2786 Ай бұрын
@@winter9242 it's not Russell Westbrook's motor it's his style that's the problem sometimes. Russell Westbrook likes to play free safety. Likes to sneak into passing lanes. And slow down slashers. Doesn't really want to guard the three. Because he likes getting rebounds.
@winter9242
@winter9242 Ай бұрын
@@sylvonbryant2786 that's also true but I also think his motor on defense is also sus. Countless times I've seen that when he's guarding someone off ball, he's ball watching and the man he's guarding would back cut freely
@bilboswaggens2975
@bilboswaggens2975 Ай бұрын
16-15-15 for the VAMPIRE.
@ippolit4262
@ippolit4262 Ай бұрын
You read my mind!
@organicsoulgumbo
@organicsoulgumbo Ай бұрын
2:19🧳 TRAVEL!!! Hessi, hop, tap, tap dribble…. TRAVEL 😂
@manny0421
@manny0421 Ай бұрын
Ben what are your 4 conference finals teams at this point into the season? I would like to know maybe for the podcast?
@hahasimplyz
@hahasimplyz Ай бұрын
i really mess with these watch alongs
@emcee_spokesman
@emcee_spokesman Ай бұрын
As a Mavs fan, I'm so glad Phoenix thought so highly of Booker that they made DominAyton the #1 pick in 2018
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ Ай бұрын
I've always wondered, is this channel monetized? You'd think that the NBA would shut this channel down from being mostly NBA footage. I love the channel and glad it's still up anyhow.
@DBFPhoenixx
@DBFPhoenixx Ай бұрын
he works with the nba sometimes and has similar videos on the nba channel. Check out the Dirk one
@andrewnonnenmacher5817
@andrewnonnenmacher5817 Ай бұрын
It's a lot of high pick and roll that leads to contested mid-rangers. Like Ben said, they don't put any pressure on the rim, and don't force teams into rotation.
@thenoiseph
@thenoiseph Ай бұрын
I really thought that 'Pho-Lac Watchalong' was something Vietnamese Thai
@2kTeacher
@2kTeacher Ай бұрын
Im surprised no one is talking about this. But one of the reasons Kawhi has not been playing in my opinion besides rest. Is Lue knows the last few postseasons have ended with kawhi getting hurt. Well the team has been playing heavily the last few weeks without him so that God forbid it happens again but if it does they'll be more prepared this time around. The Clippers are the only team that can hang with Denver in my opinion or beat them. But OKC it really just depends how fast those kids grow up in the postseason. Definitely a dangerous team
@Alex-tx6by
@Alex-tx6by Ай бұрын
as soon as I saw the team deferring to Nurkic and Eubanks dives in "need a bucket" situations I was really concerned about this team. Started back in like December and has only gotten worse. All three stars are now routinely guilty of handing role players grenades late in the shot clock. horrible stuff
@thairoi8382
@thairoi8382 Ай бұрын
I couldn’t be the only one who thought about that iconic scene from White Chick when I read the title
@JuliusSpin
@JuliusSpin Ай бұрын
They looked scared. Never thought I would see that this bad. Not from a team like this. Damn.
@dilex2870
@dilex2870 Ай бұрын
Would you Name the Programm you use to zap back and forth. You can changed the speed of the Video... All that. What programm do you use. I would love to Analyse plays myself, but I dont have the Programm to do it Like that. Thank you ❤
@JaredHathaway
@JaredHathaway Ай бұрын
i would love if you revisited the Mavs 30-0 run against the Thunder from December!
@khajiit_innocent8998
@khajiit_innocent8998 Ай бұрын
I know it sounds perhaps a bit overexaggerated, but this breakdown kinda shows why I will always love players like Jokic, Luka or Lebron that can carry a halfcourt offense on their back so that even in dry spells they are able to create good looks because of their otherworldy basketball IQ. Like yeah their teams can collapse as well as any other team but such clueless offense wouldn't happen or do you expect a Jokic lead offense to only create 4 points in the first ten minutes.
@Steve_R418
@Steve_R418 Ай бұрын
I'm no basketball genius but maybe having an actual point guard is pretty important. Adding Beal, who is just another jump shooting scorer with limited play making and defense, sure was a bold strategy lol.
@Sh1nch4n22
@Sh1nch4n22 Ай бұрын
Pho lac watchalong is what I ordered last night at the Vietnamese restaurant
@aaronpeters6209
@aaronpeters6209 Ай бұрын
4:28 why is beal clogging the lane on that pick and roll?
@lilnizal
@lilnizal Ай бұрын
Yes!
@uuh4yj43
@uuh4yj43 Ай бұрын
the clippers playing smart basketball, i liked how they were feeding zubac and defending. havent watched them this year this is fun
@user-mq3pv5yn7j
@user-mq3pv5yn7j Ай бұрын
First round exit lmao
@574onthefloor
@574onthefloor Ай бұрын
They'll probably lose both games in the play in
@nazimbelaidi6486
@nazimbelaidi6486 Ай бұрын
​@@574onthefloorBoston just got blown out by the bucks with giannis playing one half. Are they going out in the first round?
@McSnuff29
@McSnuff29 Ай бұрын
@@nazimbelaidi6486lmaoo not at all even close to the same thing.
@nazimbelaidi6486
@nazimbelaidi6486 Ай бұрын
@@McSnuff29 why not? What has Boston proven? They have been bounced just like pheonix did last year.
@FiviRen
@FiviRen Ай бұрын
I was called a madman last summer for saying it wouldn’t work
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Ай бұрын
You aren't the only one. I to thought it was a bad move and reeked of owner meddling.
@marcr196
@marcr196 Ай бұрын
literally everyone was saying that stop stroking your ego
@FiviRen
@FiviRen Ай бұрын
@@marcr196 you’re the only doing the stroking right now, never called myself a genius
@FiviRen
@FiviRen Ай бұрын
@@marcr196 you should stop stroking me off cause I never called my genius or anything 😂
@alexboche1349
@alexboche1349 Ай бұрын
Zabac definitely traveled at 9:09. Did he also at 3:48?
@dukiino739
@dukiino739 Ай бұрын
You can tell the nba sent a memo to the Refs at half time. suns finished with 20 more free throws this game, booker had 12 points on 11 free throws. clearly such an embarrassing loss like this will damage the marketability of a suns vs whoever series so the nba made the call
@Archemik99
@Archemik99 Ай бұрын
4:34 I'm surprised refs didn't call a tech on that dunk 😂
@Tmathh
@Tmathh Ай бұрын
they say theres no hand checkin yet i see it every single play
@alxx292
@alxx292 Ай бұрын
Pg is an underrated playmaker bro
@KratosAurionPlays
@KratosAurionPlays Ай бұрын
People called me crazy for hating on the Durant trade. This team is heading in the wrong direction so fast it's disheartening as a long time suns fan.
@doorkman13
@doorkman13 Ай бұрын
Games like this is why I still don’t understand why Beal was the person they went after. There’s just so much overlap between him and the other two guys. Somebody like Jrue Holiday seems like it would have at least helped cover their weaknesses.
@injusticeanywherethreatens4810
@injusticeanywherethreatens4810 Ай бұрын
Im pretty sure the biggest problem was lack of ball movement. The Suns were disappoontingly stagnant , often relying on isos and back cuts from Book and Durant. They even had the same.problem last year against Denver if I remember correctly. Another big problem is that Durant and Book are not very good offensive engines alone, theh usually need someone else who can help them with their passing and playmaking. Its not that Djrant and Book are terrible passers , its just that Chris Paul, green, harden, Curry, Westbrook have had better passing and playmaking than them and have helped them run their offences when they played together
@russellhustle9787
@russellhustle9787 Ай бұрын
Everybody's a gangsta until Westbrook is facing three of his former teammates 💀
@TheShachattack13
@TheShachattack13 Ай бұрын
Phoenix needed Beal to be a legitimate all star level player for this suns team to be a contender, but he just isn't that guy anymore. He's way closer to guys like like Collin Sexton and Devin Vassell than he is to guys like Donovan Mitchell and ANT.
@marcusbrown4933
@marcusbrown4933 Ай бұрын
Facts
@ry_an.
@ry_an. Ай бұрын
As much as I like Beal I gotta admit this is true
@Solo2121
@Solo2121 Ай бұрын
I never thought Beal was that good of a player. Much easier to be an allstar in the East but if he played his whole career in the west he would've never been one. If Jamal Murray can't make it in the west Beal damn sure wasn't. Just a good player on a bad team putting up numbers. And I've been saying this since they got him.
@anewrookiefreshman8716
@anewrookiefreshman8716 Ай бұрын
​@@Solo2121He was that guy before He is just way too inconsistent now but if u bring him back 4-5 years he was playing like a MVP caliber player
@ShockwaveDawn
@ShockwaveDawn Ай бұрын
Suns were hailed as one of the "teams to beat". As usual with this group, with thrown-together "superteams", and with KD teams, I really had to see it before I would believe it... I haven't seen it yet.
@jemirtoussaint4940
@jemirtoussaint4940 Ай бұрын
“I’ve seen enough” 🤣🤣 no please keep going
@davidem759
@davidem759 Ай бұрын
1:43 I'm always flabbergasted by the inability of using the left hand by NBA players
@kennn30
@kennn30 Ай бұрын
They were missing a lot of point blank shots but it also shows that they can't rely on their defense when their offense goes stall. I feel like Beal should come off the bench and start Okogie for more defense
@atomsk1972
@atomsk1972 Ай бұрын
With the new post all-star "rules", PG13 was pushing Durant around and he did not seem to have answers. On a number of those plays, he didn't go anywhere that PG wasn't making him go.
@AlexDings
@AlexDings Ай бұрын
Okay, I wasn't really awake yet when I saw the thumbnail for this video, and for longer than I'd like to admit I genuinely wondered why I hadn't heard of this new Suns player, apparently of Southeast Asian origin. Who is _Pho-Lac Watchalong_ and what makes him so special?
@lilxlillix7819
@lilxlillix7819 Ай бұрын
reminds me of kobe's details. well done
@allank8497
@allank8497 Ай бұрын
college basketball has been huge since the 1930s and 40s
@malooch
@malooch Ай бұрын
That goofball owner who’s daddy is a billionaire doesn’t know basketball nor does he know how to assemble a team. Just went for big names to try and make money.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@johnmarkson1998
@johnmarkson1998 Ай бұрын
tbf most big 3s are just 3 big names that dont mesh well. suns big 3 is 3 players that can shoot well so they mash well together create space for each other. if they signed lebron westbrook harden as a big 3 then yeah it that would be dumb.
@ianslee4765
@ianslee4765 Ай бұрын
@@johnmarkson1998 the suns big three dont mesh well and its the exact opposite reason the nuggets are so good; they literally cannot pass at an acceptable level for an nba guard. grayson allen is their best playmaker. we're kidding?
@johnmarkson1998
@johnmarkson1998 Ай бұрын
@@ianslee4765 they dont need jokic level passing to score. sometimes a simple pass is all they need. thats why book and kd can both go off for 50 despite no jokic feeding them. their talent alone carried them back into a game where they were down by 33 at the half.. thats a crazy big 3.
@owenhebda9083
@owenhebda9083 Ай бұрын
@@johnmarkson1998it’s a big 3 that’s in the play-in lmao
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc Ай бұрын
I thing this type of casual video deserves its own title series, kinda frustrating to click thinking it's a normal format. Still like it tho.
@ry_an.
@ry_an. Ай бұрын
Bruh it’s literally the same type of breakdown
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc Ай бұрын
@@ry_an. No it's not, it's like a reaction rather than analysis
@ry_an.
@ry_an. Ай бұрын
@@GustavoSilva-ny8jc I mean he’s quite literally breaking down what happens
@Idontwannahandl
@Idontwannahandl Ай бұрын
Turns out trading all of your defense for old shooters is not actually a good strategy... Shocking
@enzodapan5016
@enzodapan5016 Ай бұрын
I know basketball is being played positionless now. But it seems hard to win in the playoffs with pure scorers alone and less floor facilitators.
@Chilicoach
@Chilicoach Ай бұрын
Suns offense looks to me completely like your typical "coach calls the shots" type of offense. Players arent making dynamic reads based on what the defense is doing, theyre running a script, or at least it seems so to me. Theyre forcing tough, contested shots, sometimes against double or triple coverage, while guys are standing wide open behind the 3. If you dont trust those players to take that shot then you have a serious problem, but Booker and KD are gonna need to realize being a good 1v1 player isnt the end-all-be-all
@adam1st1984
@adam1st1984 Ай бұрын
Depth effects match ups
@marcusbell-dixon4733
@marcusbell-dixon4733 Ай бұрын
They needed a true point guard to balance them out. That's why they struggled in the 4th quarter of games
@dacrewordsmith
@dacrewordsmith Ай бұрын
Suns fan here | Honestly, I was surprised a 1st quarter melt-down hadn't happened earlier this season. Usually, this kind of mind-melting, heart-breaking stupidity happens in the 4th quarter for Phoenix. Change is as good as a holiday... right?
@meowkii_
@meowkii_ Ай бұрын
russ getting the opportunity to play well always makes me happy
@GarkKahn
@GarkKahn Ай бұрын
This looked like an NBA 2k Game against the cpu
@dasdet6505
@dasdet6505 Ай бұрын
Who made that thumbnail damn
@jolosarmiento24
@jolosarmiento24 Ай бұрын
9:05 this is why Bol Bol is better than Wemby. See how he takes his sweet time and looks to his left, right, and back so he knows where all the opposing players are. He does this twice to be extra sure the players didn’t move away. Almost blocked Zubac from behind too. Other teams are lucky he doesn’t get enough minutes.
@shanepursch5622
@shanepursch5622 Ай бұрын
Idk why the Suns thought the 33 win Blazers backcourt from 22-23 would be good enough. Eubanks and Nurk are solid players and they’re not the heart of the Suns woes, but they’re certainly not helping either.
@reynelsonespinosa557
@reynelsonespinosa557 Ай бұрын
"Westbrook made the jumper anyway".. That is a shot he used to take when he is the main guy.
@macnsteez3938
@macnsteez3938 Ай бұрын
The thumbnail made me think it was gonna be a vietnamese guy analysing this one 😂
@dekngpasig
@dekngpasig Ай бұрын
They need point guard playmaker
@iatwiatw
@iatwiatw Ай бұрын
I thought Pho-Lac Watchalong was a name 🤣
@bigaaron
@bigaaron Ай бұрын
Westbrook looks like he put on The Mask in the thumbnail ngl
@renzocabarco472
@renzocabarco472 Ай бұрын
I've seen enough, build around Eubanks lol
@bonk668
@bonk668 Ай бұрын
It's a real difference with Nurkic running the offense in the start but they don't go back to it in the 4th so it loses us games. Vogel isn't that bad of a coach but his rotations are so garbage sometimes. The bench can actually do something productive but since we didn't have any sense of urgency in earlier games, we lost those games and the 9 man rotation has to carry with heavy minutes now. This team knows it's talents and I believe has most gaps filled but have no real sense of direction; they just put everyone together and expected it to work in one season.
@chuchuchuchia
@chuchuchuchia Ай бұрын
I saw PHO-LAC in the thumbnail and thought this was related to Vietnamese food somehow LMAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO
@orlandotill4652
@orlandotill4652 Ай бұрын
It's not the midrange diet that's the problem it's having 2 SG's and a PF(all 3 pure scorers at that) lead an offense when a person who is used to running an offense(doesn't even have to be a traditional PG) should be running the team.
@future62
@future62 Ай бұрын
Am I wrong for thinking the subtitle in the thumbnail was Vietnamese? "Who is Pho-Lac? What is a Watchalong?" Please dont cancel me
@senniboiii9941
@senniboiii9941 Ай бұрын
Holy shit 35-4 with 1:30 left in the first quarter is wild
@jonathanperalta8545
@jonathanperalta8545 Ай бұрын
absolutely no hustle, no accountability, no consistency, and no defense. teams like this deserve to be 1 and done in the playoffs
@halimawmanoodngyt
@halimawmanoodngyt Ай бұрын
Why no nurkic?
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