brad stevens might be one of the best gms of the last decade or so. the roster he's been able to construct, and the trades he's pulling off are amazing. the missing piece is just that title
@dusk61599 ай бұрын
Just extremely effective, smart and efficient. Genius work. The Cs are on a great course
@dusk61599 ай бұрын
Holiday is also so much better, better complemented and better valorized and supported there in Boston. Especially on the defensive theme. These guys will be a deep threat in the Playoffs
@getthatball9 ай бұрын
And he did it without compromising the Celtics future for the remaining decade unlike the other contenders like Wolves, Suns, Bucks etc.
@uileam1619 ай бұрын
He definitely made the right call to shake it up. It’s clear that Tatum & Brown lack the mindset to retain emotional composure in clutch playoff games. Smart was a part of that problem. (And I love some Marcus Smart. Great defender. Was impactful even as the trash shooter he was.)
@JohnZannisPies9 ай бұрын
If he doesnt win executive of the year throw the whole award away
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
There is a reason advanced analytics have been saying Derrick white is a top 15 player since his spurs days. Elite defender, amazing on or off ball as a playmaker/connector, never makes the wrong reads, elite shooter, unselfish player. He’s the best rim protecting/shot blocking guard ever. Since he doesn’t average 25ppg he won’t get recognized but he is an all-nba level impact player there is no more denying it.
@ckq9 ай бұрын
I've considered him 2018-19: top 120 2019-20: top 120 2020-21: top 75 2021-22: top 75 2022-23: top 60 2023-24: top 25 He was good in the past, but this year he's legitimately an all-star.
@ichirosuzuki22529 ай бұрын
his shooting was never this good on the spurs to be fair
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
@@ckqThe top whatever undersells him. Been watching him a long time and he’s been this player. A player who can morph into any role and defend on ball plus rim protect is 1 to none. He’s just doing it on a big stage now while playing more mins.
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
@@ichirosuzuki2252indicators like ft% was there. He played with Demar and dejounte so he was the only 3p threat as well. But his 3p shooting is only icing on the cake with all the things he brings.
@Cryptech10109 ай бұрын
Pffft
@cullensmolcha73019 ай бұрын
the end of this really puts into perspective the weight of being a GM and what an incredible job (for the most part) brad stevens has done
@t4d0W9 ай бұрын
I mean Ainge left Stevens with a great core talent to work with. Though Stevens' job I'd argue is harder because he has to assemble a championship team with the Jays being proven in the playoffs. But being around Ainge and seeing his weakness with holding onto assets too long showed that Stevens has to be more aggressive to help the team peaking with their stars. And also finding more value on 'overlooked' first round talents that are one dimensional. KP embracing his role as the 'big man' shooter is huge because most of them are in the Wester Conference now.
@KS-qc3pr9 ай бұрын
@@t4d0WAinge left Stevens with an insanely top heavy team and some of the worst depth in the league. Half the roster Brad had in his last year as coach is out of the league now. He’s been the best GM in basketball since he got the job, all they need is a ring to cement it but he’s done everything he can to help them.
@t4d0W9 ай бұрын
@@KS-qc3pr But Smart, Theis, Grant and RW3 were still there with the two core Jays along with the Langford/Nesmith who were key assets in the future trades. There was still enough from that war chest along with aging vets like Kemba to flip him and get Horford back. As well with the moving the young players with some vets (especially the Richardson signing) in the Pacers and Spurs trade that net them Brogdon and White.
@nolanL9 ай бұрын
danny traded theis before brad took over, kemba on a max was a mistake that brad had to fix@@t4d0W
@beckard9 ай бұрын
not really "for the most part" he hasn't made a mistake yet
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
As a spurs fan, white has said he watched a ton of Manu. White can set an offense, run pnr, get downhill or shoot, play off ball, elite iq and shooting, defends like hell. All these small traits that Manu had he has. He’s not electric with the ball like Manu but he’s impactful. Get deeper in your talks there is a lot you guys didn’t uncover with White still…
@granthoops9 ай бұрын
Manu and Derrick are very similar. Lots of Spurs fans said it and we don't throw around Manu's name cavalierly. Both came into the league as old rookies. Both guys didn't realize how good they were; deferring too often offensively. Both are willing to do anything to win a game. Take 5 charges and loose a tooth. Manu and Derrick's hands elbows and head end up on the hardwood more than most NBA players. Everyone says they want to win, but I don't think many people actually follow through on doing anything to win. It's fun to score 25 in a win but you know both guys are happy to play an uglier role to win the next game; scoring 6 points but providing elite defense and extra hustle on some rebounds or forced turnovers. From a peripheral view, both guys are extremely similar as actual impact players. Elite defenders on and away from the ball that can switch onto bigger players. You will not find many more impactful players their height or shorter defending inside the paint; drawing charges, swiping the ball, going vertical. Both force a bunch of turnovers, both make quick/good decisions on both ends of the floor, both are efficient guys that don't take that many mid range shots (not that many do nowadays lol). Both are kings of plus-minus data. The biggest diversions in the two are that Manu was a drive first player who got massive FTA's and threw all kinds of audacious passes. I don't think Manu is the best comparison for him because of that. I was pushing Derrick White as the next Chauncey Billups back when we still had him in SA, but I believe a more accurate comparison is Kyle Lowry. If he stays healthy and confident I don't think a career like Lowry is that unlikely for Derrick. Honestly, all 4 of Billups Manu Derrick and Lowry are kind of an overlapping 4 circle ven diagram. It hurts to not see Derrick actualizing his obvious potential in a Spurs uniform. However, I think it's obvious how much winning did for Derrick's confidence. Playing off great offensive players in Boston gave him the breathing room to build up his confidence and win through bad individual games. In SA when he struggled and we lost (and we lost more than we won) it clearly wore on his confidence. In Boston, when he struggled and Boston lost.. wait, Boston doesn't lose a lot... yeah that helps your confidence. That helps you shake off the bad games when they're forgotten in wins. I think it's obvious the losing and extra scrutiny for personally bad games wore down on him in SA. We made him deactivate his twitter after he shot like 0/8 from 3 in Milwaukee. The November 2018 Spurs were kind of a depressing team to watch. We lost Kawhi, Manu, Danny, Tony, and Kyle. It was jarring. How was this real? Our team is Aldridge DeRozan Gay Mills? Dante Cunningham is starting for us? Weren't we watching Kawhi look like Michael Jordan carrying us through the western conference like 16 months ago? Losing all those guys in the summer was a punch in the stomach and Dejounte tearing his ACL in the preseason was the kick in the --- now the one guy I'm excited to watch is Derrick and HE's GOING TO MISS THE START OF THE SEASON!? That team was sad to watch. However, by January they were so much fun for me to watch and basically the only reason for that was Derrick. It was obvious he was a good player and that he was going to be a great player. There isn't any other young Spur I've said that about between Kawhi and Victor. The difference when Derrick was on and off the floor in terms of watchability AND productivity as a team was night and day. He was 95% of the fun of that team for me. I wish he was blossoming nationally as a Spur. Call it entitlement. His potential was criminally underrated by fans media and apparently NBA front offices. I don't like the Celtics but Derrick has made them my 2nd favorite team and just like he made the Spurs fun to watch in 2018 - 19 he now makes a team I don't care about fun to watch.
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
@@granthoops Derrick has also made the Celtics my 2nd favorite team. Has so much humility and never had any pride or ego unlike Dejounte…but one thing you said that was cool is the similarities between billups,white,Manu,Lowry. These players are always extremely valuable
@Max-me9ol9 ай бұрын
shooting 40% from 3 while being such a good defender would be more than enough to be the perfect fit for this team (or any other team for that matter). but the dude can also run plays as you said. i can honestly see him as a borderline star and borderline all star in a bigger role at a different team. edit: jesus this dude has a 19.2 PER...
@thibz-lx9hl9 ай бұрын
As a Celtics fan D White has been my fav player for a lil while now
@j-us-t_be-in-g9 ай бұрын
I Think they cover what they intended the video to be about. Lol. They always bring it. Stop it bro! Lmao. They're about Derrick White on the Celtics, and not on the Spurs. Lol. Chill man.......
@Il_Exile_lI9 ай бұрын
To add to the end bit about how the Celtics acquired their starting 5, you also have to remember that both Brown and Tatum were the result of draft picks that Boston got in the legendary Pierce/Garnett Brooklyn trade.
@vulcanraven97019 ай бұрын
They fleeced the Nets and then swept them. Lol
@marcochen91179 ай бұрын
getting rid of his hair was Derrick White's turnaround moment, they were weighing him down!
@chaedub9 ай бұрын
reverse samson!
@dsl699 ай бұрын
Derrick Saitama
@Mr1mojo9risin849 ай бұрын
He's learn from the GOAT Caruso.
@barbazzfoo9 ай бұрын
Derrick White is my BOAT (baldest of all time)
@richins39 ай бұрын
Having recently shaved my own head, I can confirm this is true.
@NoPainNoGainz49 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m still shocked how spurs let Derrick white go for nothing ..
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
He is too good so he would help win games which was not ideal. Plus he is a little older. As a spurs fan it pains me we moved on but it makes sense. Don’t get why every team wasn’t on the phone with the spurs.
@chasebingaman9 ай бұрын
They got two firsts and Romeo Langford when he still had some potential. That's a fair trade for him in 2021 terms
@Suficiente2139 ай бұрын
He not top 500 in nba
@gavind10319 ай бұрын
they got a 2022 first, a 2028 first swap, romeo langford, and josh richardson. from richardson they got devonte graham and 4 second round picks, devonte graham will likely be packaged this season for more second round picks. so all things considered if the spurs are better than the celtics by 2028, theyll have 2 firsr rounders, and at least 4, possibly 5-6 second rounders from derrick white trade
@nopolicey9 ай бұрын
Derrick white is the ultimate gadget player, on a bad team you wont realize his true value. On a contender you see how good he is
@lilnizal9 ай бұрын
love the content ben keep up the good work
@ThinkingBasketball9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@Justin6839 ай бұрын
@@ThinkingBasketballwill there be any more offensive legends videos?
@DanielS-gv5nj9 ай бұрын
I am not a Celtics fan but Derrick White deserves all the love in the world and has become one of my favorite non-star players to watch (even though he is a super star in my book).
@klc25789 ай бұрын
he is the MVP in my book
@unrulybill9 ай бұрын
He should be a all star this season
@thinkinginsideout40539 ай бұрын
That transaction history diagram is so nice. A GM masterclass.
@UnlikelyMJ9 ай бұрын
I feel like Derrick White is a like missing puzzle piece for a system and when the system has that piece it will thrive, but if you move him to another system he will be good, but not as good as he is in Boston, I might be wrong anyway
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
Can fit into all 30 nba teams. He’s like a scrull in marvel where he can morph into anything. On ball playmaking, off ball shooting, on ball defense, off ball rim protection. On the spurs his advanced numbers looked like a top 15 nba player
@t4d0W9 ай бұрын
He's the ideal 4th/5th piece who can be efficient getting less attention from defenses. But with that can also spend his energy making those calculated risks on defense that can turn to key possessions to scores. Or well timed putbacks to put his team ahead in the final seconds.
@YouCanCallMeReTro9 ай бұрын
He could fit on any team. I will say though, when he got traded at the deadline he was a great pickup and he played well, but it wasn't until he had his first full season with the team where he really excelled. Thats part of the reason the Celtics were comfortable moving on with Smart and White proved himself to be that guy.
@NickSunseri9 ай бұрын
Another detail to the trade tree you left out: The other player the Celtics shipped out for White - Romeo Langford - is who they drafted with the pick they acquired for moving down in the 2017 draft, letting the Sixers move up to #1 for Fultz, and instead taking Tatum at #3.
@jesustenes29 ай бұрын
it's always so satisfying when the exact same play they are describing is shown in the video, great job
@lucasborja37979 ай бұрын
Neemias Queta is also a really good big which Sacramento inexplicably gave no chance despite being the best big man in the G League
@shadowduke15359 ай бұрын
if he gets a three point shot and some midreange options he could become the next al horford
@dasfawsfasf9359 ай бұрын
He has been unbelievable; his defensive ability is shocking. I will never understanding how guys like Bol bol or mo bamba are picked up before him
@deanna127150269 ай бұрын
@@dasfawsfasf935he got cooked against golden state, once he learns to be a bit of a better switch defender on the perimeter everything will come full circle. He definitely has a magnetic knack for rebounding especially on the offensive
@thomasshortis55629 ай бұрын
Just having a dude who can grab a ton of rebounds is huge. Rebounding has always been weak point for boston in the past so to have it in our bench unit is huge
@BlueJarth9 ай бұрын
so glad to see DWhite get the much deserved recognition. as a C's fan, he's everything I always hoped Marcus would be
@hanzhiyang99769 ай бұрын
Amen
@mitshchief28829 ай бұрын
This team reminds me of the championship-run Spurs somewhat. In that they had a lot of guys you would not outright say were stars in Manu and Tony Parker and roleplayers that did their job. I know they had Timmy so my point is not exact. Duncan was a legit superstar even if he did not seem it. For the Celtics right now, you just have a team not necessarily constructed around a superstar. Just solid guys who want to win and know their role. Just a well-balanced team built around team play, you know the most important part of team sports. Brad Stevens has taken the Sith Lord directive from Dany Ainge and is tricking the league into doing his bidding lol. I don't even watch the NBA anymore but I try to keep up with the C's when I can because they seem to not embody all the awful things I hate about the league nowadays. Good video fellas.
@SoloPerICommenti9 ай бұрын
They fleeced nobody, they paid market price for those players, just they have been smart to identify them and had tons of assets thanks to Ainge. But a guy like White was available because the Spurs were in a different phase
@t4d0W9 ай бұрын
I would agree Stevens was more aggressive identifying those complimentary talents and getting them than Ainge was. Whom the latter I felt was holding onto his assets (picks, big contracts) for a high impact top 10~20ish guy wanted a new market and was willing to sign long term. Maybe thinking that was his way of adding to the what the Jays could become and cover their weaknesses.
@Davivd29 ай бұрын
Everyone in the league slept on Kristaps Porzingas.
@S1gdur9 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the "trade-tree" you assembled in the end. Shows how good job the front office did assembling this team
@aburnce9 ай бұрын
White's prime is going to look a lot like Jrue's prime looked.
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
I’ve been asking you guys to cover white forever. About time he’s a 1 of 1 player.
@ThinkingBasketball9 ай бұрын
You inspired the video!
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
@@ThinkingBasketballif you wanna have a Rich talk about real impactful players/how valuable connective traits are…I’m your guy.
@thunderstar2549 ай бұрын
Thanks Issac and TB, he's deserved his flowers for a while now
@meursault62899 ай бұрын
These trades of Celtics remind me of champiosnhip Mavs. They got Marion,Tyon, Kidd year by year to form a champion lineup.
@superfinevids9 ай бұрын
As a Spurs fan Derek White leaving was one of the most disappointing events. But it was bittersweet because I knew he needed to go to a team that was going to contend now rather than in the future. Still one of my favorite players to watch. The guys in tangibles are off the charts and he's always hustling and making the smart play.
@demainmyhlem59309 ай бұрын
Derrick White is simply that man. I can not stress it enough. Also Sam Hauser is one of, if not the, best shooter in the league.
@alejandrojimenez1089 ай бұрын
99% sure Sam would tell you he isn’t the best lol, but he is really good
@NotOneToFly9 ай бұрын
@@alejandrojimenez108 Among players who have already made 150 threes this season, he is third in percentage behind only Malik Beasley and Duncan Robinson. And Beasley starts. Pretty impressive. He's also 14th in offensive rating. Two spots behind, who else, Derrick White.
@WorldsUnhealthiestFitPerson9 ай бұрын
Except when he goes 0-for-a million like he's done in two of the team's OT losses.
@demainmyhlem59309 ай бұрын
@@WorldsUnhealthiestFitPerson shooters shoot and shooters miss thats how it is. dont mean he not great at it
@Drizzlybear19 ай бұрын
@@WorldsUnhealthiestFitPersonThat's what happens to shooters there will be some nights where you can't hit a shot to save your life. Even Steph has had some 3/10 or 6/16 3 pt shooting games.
@Arsenal.139 ай бұрын
the breakdown at the end id love to see more of that where you can visualize the trades
@tommyguntunechi81249 ай бұрын
At the end of the day its the coach that gets every single player to buy into the goal and sacrifice. Celtics and Bucks is shaping up to be the best series in the east imo. Would be the most important playoff series of Dames career👀
@sloanNYC9 ай бұрын
The roster should win a title. Anything less means they underachieved. The question is for me is whether Brown and Tatum play smart or make bad choices... and that's their weakness, who is going to have the ball late in the game that you trust to make the winning shot or play? Tatum is just a little less than a Joker, Giannis, Luka level...
@zacharylunoe90109 ай бұрын
The whole starting 5 are all star level
@jameskane46399 ай бұрын
Very timely, I've been grappling with the idea that this season Derrick has been the 3rd best player on the team behind Tatum/KP. This is based on just watching games, but the more I look at the impact analytics it really pushes it from being a weirdly uncomfortable thought to one that's got a lot of legs. Thanks for the effort you both put in.
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
3rd is easy. What is uncomfortable is if he’s the most important. Obviously Tatum is better but if white wasn’t there, they wouldn’t have that ceiling raiser that takes them to another level by connecting everything on both ends…
@jameskane46399 ай бұрын
Yeah personally I dont see an argument for him being more important than Tatum. He's playing within a system built around Tatum complemented by 4 other incredible players that allow him to play within his role/skillset and off the attention those key players create. Which is he is doing very well, yet none of that exists without an MVP calibre player.
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
@@jameskane4639 fair but this team wouldn’t have much connective tissue without white. Not even mentioning the other side of the ball. +/- is the best in the league. I’m just saying it can be a conversation, I know Tatum is a better player.
@t4d0W9 ай бұрын
I'd argue he's even more important in the playoffs regardless of how Tatum/JB/KP tune their performance then. He does all the dirty and hustle work and when the Celtics are playing in close games and Mazzula is calling a stale game plan with the Jays having bouts to get shots to drop, one guy who will fight till the last second to get that last hustle basket for the win is definitely Derrick White. He did so in a game 6 against the Heat where the Celtics damn nearly ran out of gas in the 4th quarter.
@pinobluevogel64589 ай бұрын
I think if players can adjust their game to fit within a system built around other players, that makes them even more valuable. I'm not saying White would perform better without Tatum or Brown, as he certainly takes advantage of their presence on offense and defense. If you stack a team with good players, it becomes incrementally harder to stop the offense.
@MrZaku-rh4qt9 ай бұрын
Only thing left for this team is the chip. FA gives them gems every single time, but the Jays are so inconsistent at the big stage, they're either gonna drop 50 or be the best bricking and TO duo
@Lebum7389 ай бұрын
Tatum ain’t top 5 imo I feel like he too inconsistent to lead a team to a chip
@davidobrien28419 ай бұрын
as a celtics fan, our late-game offense and play calling in tight games is still really concerning
@JolteOnWisconsin9 ай бұрын
As a bucks fan, keep it up, we’re the anti-Celtics right now. Bucks have no defense or cohesive offense but are great in clutch time lol
@pinobluevogel64589 ай бұрын
@@JolteOnWisconsin Biggest difference is that you already had Giannis that could step up in endgame, but now you have one of the best closers in the league, Mr Dame-time himself. Tatum and Brown are great, but they aren't clutch at all, if anything it should be White or KP doing end of game shots.
@Drizzlybear19 ай бұрын
@@pinobluevogel6458 Personally I think the ball shouldn't be in any one player's hands at the end of the game. Just run plays and find the open man. The beauty of having 5 guys who can all get a bucket is you don't have to run every single play through Tatum and Brown.
@pinobluevogel64589 ай бұрын
@@Drizzlybear1 Maybe you're right, but in practice in the NBA we often see it play out differently. Starplayers that perform well in the clutch, tend to get the ball and perform well in the clutch, it's just a normal thing in the NBA. Even if only for a good story of heroics, its a good thing to have. It also feeds on itself, if that player keeps on performing, he starts to believe in himself and actualizes this by getting extra motivated and focused in those times. Similary, a player that missed a bunch of shots, gets seen as a choker and loses this confidence.
@Brandon-hg7ic9 ай бұрын
@@pinobluevogel6458well it doesnt seem like these Celtic stars perform in the clutch but i dont have the stats
@justinallen10929 ай бұрын
The Celtics front office has done this for decades. Lol.
@JohnDoe-gf5he9 ай бұрын
Other teams have 1-2 big stars, and rest of the lineup is subpar. Boston has the best overall lineup.
@FirefighterBobby9 ай бұрын
Children of big Al. He's the mano Celtics need to retire jersey of, just for kicking Giannis back in "that" game. Great team once again, title or not.
@Mr__Delivery9 ай бұрын
Derrick White is far and away the most underrated player in the league
@bocadog39 ай бұрын
And still get punked by the warriors😂😂. Irrelevant ass team
@1979eweiss9 ай бұрын
The cumulative increase in Post play has also helped muddle an already tough defensive assignment. 4 of 5 starters are pretty lethal in single coverage.
@OnlyJerico9 ай бұрын
Porzingis is making things easy for the c's
@marcochen91179 ай бұрын
will there be a late resurgence of post moves or at least post ups for more bigs? The roaming scheme is dominating the nba paint defenses the last season or two, with KP, AD, Wemby and Chet adding on to that. If a 6'7 or under wing is guarding a 250lbs 6'10 up guy, shouldn't that guy at least get some attempts to bully him? I know that most non star bigs are specialized to be roll men, but they don't even get a chance to take advantage of any size advantage.
@tonyb.19059 ай бұрын
Celtics receive: Jrue Holiday Blazers receive: Malcolm Brogdon Robert Williams 2024 1st-round pick (via Warriors) 2029 unprotected 1st-round pick (via Celtics) Celtics gave up 2 number 1 picks in the Holiday deal
@djmo009 ай бұрын
Those two pick could both end up in the lottery. Not a high chance and they would likely be at the end of the lottery if there at all.
@nickholy70149 ай бұрын
Derrick White is like Alex Caruso who shoots a slightly better at 3pt. As this year, Alex has improved a lot with his 3pt compared to previous years, specially in clutch time. They basically twins.
@dusk61599 ай бұрын
No wonder that they have the same intensity and intelligence
@GurtonBuster079 ай бұрын
Alex Caruso is nowhere near the playmaker nor finisher derrick white is lol. Derrick white is a legit point guard
@vulcanraven97019 ай бұрын
Yeah. The Bulls definitely love Caruso.
@carlosacosta12909 ай бұрын
Caruso is better on defense but White is better on offense.
@ronjie9 ай бұрын
It helps that Boston hasn’t won a chip yet. Once they win one or more, one or two players are going to want to ask for a pay raise that cripples their ability to keep the team together or hire other decent players that fit. Look at GSW. 2022 was just lucky for them because Poole played like he was worth the money he got the year after, but it hasn’t been the same since 2019.
@kntfhvn9 ай бұрын
dwhite is also one of the most selfless dudes on the team. he was fighting for minutes last season his numbers were down but he didn't complain he just kept on playing good basketball. hoping to see him become a 1st time allstar along with the jays this year.
@Aaron-nm1ob9 ай бұрын
Get this stat: Zingas shoots 38.7% from 3 feet behind the line and shoots 34.6% at the 3 point line. I think it's a height thing.
@Nolimitnolly9 ай бұрын
D wade is the next closest thing guard blocks wise
@kantahanwithkahel9 ай бұрын
I like the presentation style, where you include video of the specific plays you talk about.
@jamesssdasds9 ай бұрын
Brad is basically getting all the players he wanted when he was the coach of this team
@cmikesmith6649 ай бұрын
Spurs fans are missing Derrick White.
@whitechocalte5329 ай бұрын
Only thing is Derrick is getting matched up consistently with bad perimeter defender, when you play with Tatum Brown and Jrue you are gonna feast on easy matchups
@michaelahurt9 ай бұрын
Isn't that the case for any role player? Look at Mikal Bridges, Jermi Grant, Tobias Harris. They can moonlight as a #1 on mediocre teams better than White maybe but on a title team they too are #3 (or #4) options
@nbapbaupdate83387 ай бұрын
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@mikaeki52459 ай бұрын
Derrick White has become one of my favorites. He also seems like a very humble and hard working guy, a good guy. Great to partner with Jrue, whose the same.
@Lifestyleslanguish9 ай бұрын
I’m right there with ya. This team is fascinating. But you’re leaving out a critical element that makes them so so different and difficult. Not many teams have a Tingus pingus. Center who’s deadly from 3 point range but can score mid range and post at the highest level. We have Al horford. 2nd in the nba in 3pt% last season. And he’s more of the same this season. Very few teams have a snipping big. No other teams have two. And here’s the kickers kicker. Al is even better from 3 % wise. Al hit an open 3 later in that Detroit game. It was the most beautiful 3 point shot I’ve ever seen. I don’t think I’ve ever been impressed with an open 3 point shot before. But Al has become a master marksmen. This team has 2 of everything. 2 all nba franchise 2 way wings. Two combo guards who are the two best defenders in the nba from the backcourt. Two 7 footers who are deadly from 3. Can score at any level and who are excellent passers We also have 2 shooters off the bench who can put the opposing team ice in a hurry. If the c’s can land a quality bench player, they will. If Brad thinks they need something they will have it. Cuz teams like this don’t just fall out the sky. And they’re very hungry. They have that will to win I havnt seen since that run on Taryn’s rookie season. Scary terry and the gang
@gilly20269 ай бұрын
That season with Brogdon and Smart, I thought White played the best out of all of them f
@tyrronne6708 ай бұрын
Derrick White being called a superstar came as the epiphany I didn't know i needed
@emmettvb9 ай бұрын
Respect to D White but when teams have to guard JT, Porzingas, and Brown already, and then Jrue holiday as well, your job as the 5th man is gonna be easy.
@ray1018929 ай бұрын
Anything below a ring this year is a disappointment. No more excuses now.
@brandonmoskos91493 ай бұрын
Can't believe they got Porzingis and a 1st round pick for Smart. 😂😂
@lawbinson9 ай бұрын
White at one point was one of those offensive generators on the Spurs and Team USA. He’s not A+ at it, but being B+ to A- at it as a role player is such a game changer.
@aburnce9 ай бұрын
I'm predicting this: White will NOT be an All-Star, but he will be the Finals MVP.
@MrE_9 ай бұрын
Derrick white went from balding to balling ever since he embraced the bald
@michaeln30449 ай бұрын
This was my favorite analysis of Celtics I’ve seen this year.
@pinobluevogel64589 ай бұрын
Derrick White has been an underrated guard ever since he joined the league, I think by now we finally see the eye-balls on him he deserves. I think he's the best two-way guard in the league, Jrue has more strength and defensive versatility, Caruso is slightly better on ball, but neither of them have the consistancy on offense and the rim protection chops. I like both him and KP (who has also been an underrated piece) as sleeper starplayers on this team. The J's can certainly put out some volume scoring, but for clutch moments and consistancy in the playoffs, I think they have more value with the former mentioned players. KP is a very tough matchup for any team and White is such a shifty player, he always makes his presence felt doing whatever is needed to win. Also if the defense shifts towards Tatum or Brown, he absolutely takes advantage of it, which was formerly and issue with Smart being in that spot not able to do so.
@Lebum7389 ай бұрын
KP might get injured in playoffs
@idkmybffjill96829 ай бұрын
7:00 he’s the best shot blocking small since d wade
@RiskXd7159 ай бұрын
Now the thing is if these mf don’t win this a championship this season then that’s a completely failure
@Incognito_8099 ай бұрын
Such a fun team to watch. They need to learn to stay consistent at the end when it matters.
@lostone97008 ай бұрын
The league fleeced themselves as usual. The wizards in particular.
@armin388229 ай бұрын
As a mavs fan I can just say that Porzingis moves better. Like,he runs in a more atlethic way. Is not that he was slower with Mavs but he seems more comfortable in his own body again.
@lilyrubyify9 ай бұрын
The Spurs kinda had to move Derrick White. Dude was honestly just too good on both ends to allow them to actually tank for a top pick, and it's the same story with Dejoutne. Funny enough, the Spurs would kill to have either of them back now to pair with Wemby though. lol
@Leon-cy7ud9 ай бұрын
when I saw that jrue holiday trade I lost all hope as a bucks fan you got a DPOY caliber player of jrue, also a DPOY caliber player derrick white, and two average to above average perimeter defender of JB and JT plus Kristaps who can be a solid rim protector and horford if you want someone to guard giannis or embiid and all those people can switch and defend multiple position and all of those can also get hot and score
@rvey9 ай бұрын
I stopped watching the moment Derrick White was compared to Jordan 😂
@ThinkingBasketball9 ай бұрын
😂 No you didn't.
@x-man94737 ай бұрын
Not just that. He used defense to make the comparison and praise Derrick White. When he literally criticized MJ for playing that style of defense in his MJ peaks video.
@popelover9 ай бұрын
so happy for derrick white's success buddys a baller
@t4d0W9 ай бұрын
That Cavs adjustment to move Porzingis is just similar to taking away RW3 from the ball. Stick him by the dunker spot and let him track the ball at the rim. Plus C's can switch anyway so they can always get someone on Allen if he relocates off a screen. Which then leaves Tatum defending the perimeter which is ideal. And as Ben noted it is possible because you have 4 other guys who can essentially defend 1~4 at the perimeter. Until they run into a team with a taller high volume jump shooter but most those monsters are in the WC. I will say regarding what assets the C's moved to get White and some of the guys, its probably a product of Stevens seeing how Ainge gathered a war chest of picks years ago and didn't really use them until their value diminished. Along with Ainge's penchant of taking wings with ball handling/shooting potential in the mid/late first such as guys like Langford and Nesmith. In the end they were just sweeteners to drafts that would help assemble their complimentary talents. But they certainly lucked out finding an easy replacement to shipping out Smart by easily getting Jrue who was moved for the Lillard trade. Good aggressive moves in the FA by Stevens.
@sostdm6179 ай бұрын
The Celtics are definitely a threat to win it all i say just improve the bench and they'll be fine if healthy
@noisepuppet9 ай бұрын
Celtics fans, I'm scared for y'all, with the whole basketball world practically calling the ECF in your favor at this point, it feels like a bad omen
@HoopsAficionado9 ай бұрын
I recall the Celtics traded Marcus Smart in a multi-team deal and got Kristaps Porzingis and three first rounders in return, which is an incredible haul. Then they traded two firsts, Brogdon and Robert Williams for Jrue. As Ben pointed out, the only concession they made in these moves is giving up a pick that turned into Sengun to get rid of Kemba Walker in favour of Al Horford.
@t4d0W9 ай бұрын
Horford was still a great asset then. Sure he's more diminished but he's essentially a playmaking big who can shoot 3s and play quality defense in key matchups. Stuff that Sengun is now trying to figure out but you need to give him time to do so. Horford as a vet already figured it out and is ready to contribute to a deep playoff push.
@ericsmith39369 ай бұрын
They had to give up a pick to get off Kembas contract. No way could they contend with him getting a huge chunk of money and being washed.
@wilkic29 ай бұрын
How much do you think White is worth annually, contract wise?
@isaactesfaye97609 ай бұрын
From the eye test and how his advanced stats say he’s a top 15 guy. He’s worth whatever you would pay Zach lavine…cuz he’s a more impactful player
@theaspiringactor9 ай бұрын
The Clippers fleeced YOU my guy! They're a superteam that works
@keepscrolling60429 ай бұрын
all of that and still got cooked by chef Curry
@miked58145 ай бұрын
When was this?
@Jabbersac9 ай бұрын
4:55 I'm confused by this. That's Dean Wade that Ben describes as "a non-shooter", but Dean Wade is a 3-and-D guy. He actually takes and makes about as many 3-point shots as Porzingis on a rate basis, and he specializes in corner 3s. So he's not a non-shooter, but in the footage from that game in the video Boston is leaving him open like he's Draymond Green, and Cleveland isn't passing to him even when he's wide open. TL;DR I'm a casual stathead who's confused because Dean Wade doesn't look like a non-shooter on paper, but the professional basketball analysts and professional basketball players are all acting like he can't shoot for shit
@GurtonBuster079 ай бұрын
He’s not a high volume three point shooter. He’s a solid three point shooter but he’s not going to be shooting 15+ threes and beating you from there. Ben basically means he’s the worst volume three point shooter on the court thats not going to be involved in the pnr so you put a rim protector on him even though he may shoot a solid percentage hes either not high volume, or consistent enough to beat you from there and it’s more important having a rim protector protect the rim near the baseline.
@Jabbersac9 ай бұрын
@@GurtonBuster07 That explains the Celtics' defensive decisions, but not the fact that Cleveland wasn't passing to him (or even faking passing to him). I guess I just have to trust that Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell had reasons for not making those passes that I'm just missing - not exactly hard to believe, i think those guys know a little more about basketball than I do.
@wedabestradi0969 ай бұрын
And we still can't beat steph
@nicholaseaster589 ай бұрын
That’s because Tatum turns into Kwame Brown against them.
@lawbinson9 ай бұрын
Makes it wild that they have both White and Jrue
@Grievous_9 ай бұрын
Lmfaoo they released this video RIGHT AFTER the fact that Curry just SH*T all over them 😂
@ejp5079 ай бұрын
D white dropped 30 last night 🤷🏽♂️ on like 7 3s made.
@OH_MY_DOGGG9 ай бұрын
The celtics have a magnetism to them right now.
@migsnaidas41079 ай бұрын
It is nothing new. Once you play for the spurs in the past, there is so much expectation to you because you play for the greatest coach of all time.
@ericsmith39369 ай бұрын
And then the expectations that comes with playing in Boston. 2 great franchises he got to be a part of.
@falconhoward40329 ай бұрын
Common Brad Stevens masterclass
@dominicvl19909 ай бұрын
Celtics traded 2 1sts for holiday. They gave up an unprotected 2029 first to the blazers as well
@ThinkingBasketball9 ай бұрын
Yes there are outstanding draft picks, and despite most of them being later, they will occasionally convert into a good play, as evidenced by Houston nabbing Sengun.
@danteschaos78529 ай бұрын
I needed this after the warriors loss
@geordiejones56189 ай бұрын
Brad was a great coach and an even better GM. For three straight seasons he's managed to retool better than any other team.
@schuylersavage2769 ай бұрын
Random post: I adore Derrick White. He is such an amazing player, defender, growing into his own version of a star role playing Steph Curry/Manu Ginobili/Alex Caruso hybrid. But whenever I hear talk about his shot blocking abilities it makes me think of John Wall. That man never got his flowers for being the best shot blocking point guard in NBA history. Here’s the data: 437 blocks total. Most ever by a Pg. Played half the games of the player at #2 all time, Jason Kidd. If you look at the top 10 list, it’s all guys who played 800-1200 games. Wall broke the record in 600. Wall averges 0.7 for his career, about the same as LeBron. Wall is tied for the most blocks in a single game ever by a Pg, with 5. Wall AVERAGED over 1.1 blocks per game for his PLAYOFF CAREER. He had 3 separate trips to the playoffs where he averaged between 1.4 and 1.2 blocks PER GAME. He averaged 2.8 STOCKS per game for his playoff career as a PoINT GUARD. Also, not quite data, but just go look up his best blocks. This dude was stuffing Serge Ibaka at the rim, chasing down anyone and everyone. Literlaly throwing Brandon Ingram or DeMarr Derozens layups into the bleachers. It was insane. And he did it while battling bone spurs and u diagnosed tendinitis for most of the time. Heck, his overall playoff stats of 21.9 points, 9.8 assists, 4.3 rebounds, 1.7 steals and 1.1 blocks PER GAME( and don’t forget an overall +/- of +83) HAVEnt ever been duplicated before. I’m sure other Celtics fans like me remember him torching us over the years, whether it was the 27-0 run he led during the playoffs on his way to tying the series 2-2, or the game winning , 23rd poont of the half series saving 3 pointer in game 6. The 40/13/3/3 never done before game 2 that his teammates managed to let slip away while IT dropped 53. The 29/12 after he had just returned from surgery in 2018. The 34/13 with a bone spur on his heel and plantar fasciitis and a weakening achillies in 2018/19. Dude was wild . And I had to bring it up as I think about how good of a shot blocker white is. He’s a different type of shot blocker than Wall. Wall was LeBron James at 6’3”. White is more like…I don’t even know…something else.
@jt8isgr8709 ай бұрын
What's crazy about the Celtics is that they're not gassed out easily and can go all 4 quarters without being tired and still score plus 20 from each starter or play lock down defense even with just white and holiday
@rawdot97249 ай бұрын
My Father Brad😅😅😅He can get Doncic using me, how I dont even know coz I dont even play ball. Lol Just Jokes. All I am saying is I love Brad, from the bold decision of giving Joe the Job to trading the DPOY of 2 seasons ago. I love Brad
@urikamoment9 ай бұрын
Why can't they win important games?!? Wolves, Sixers, Magic, Pacers, Warriors. Yes, I know Prozingis was missing in some of these, but it still feels they either win comfortably or loose, which is bad for a team with championship aspirations (even if they win comfortably often). Is this all a superstar problem?
@greatheightsu9 ай бұрын
Brad. Fucking. Stevens. Should be executive of the year. Probably won't be because the team was already good, but should be.
@Nightlingbolt9 ай бұрын
Don't forget the Celtics only have Jrue Holliday because the Bucks saw fit to trade him for Damian Lillard. How were they supposed to know the Trail Blazers would ship him to Boston?!
@shortpitched7139 ай бұрын
The yearly gas up of the Boston Celtics begins. I can't wait for the playoffs and watching their analytic 99% win chance get exploded again. Boston Celtics fans (other than actual Bostonians), are a bunch of insufferable nerds who like a nerd team. L franchise.
@taskdon7699 ай бұрын
Celtics have been doing that since 50s with Red Auerbach and Bill Rusell.
@marcmarc19679 ай бұрын
They really struck it big with Len Bias.
@taskdon7699 ай бұрын
@@marcmarc1967 Len Bias and Reggie Lewis were the reason of why Celtics run of dynasty interrupted.
@marcmarc19679 ай бұрын
@@taskdon769 I know, that was my point.
@kyleshuler29297 ай бұрын
"And Derrick White is just really good. His ability to get up into people...." Pause. Pause.
@onety35789 ай бұрын
Honestly derrick white feels like the leader this team needs. Like out of all of them, i want him on the last shot
@Justinrombough9 ай бұрын
Go C's ☘️
@kevinforeman44859 ай бұрын
They didn't Fleece the league. They fleeced the Nets. They got 2 on their last leg superstars and Boston got mad 1st round draft picks. I forget how many, but it paid off. They went for the rebuild instead of trade vets for other vets. Warriors might wanna check out the method to the madness. Them boys getting old. Trade them now while suckers will bite.