Marvel Vow To Rip-Off X-Men Fans For Foreseeable Future

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@JCAP-bb2vn
@JCAP-bb2vn 2 ай бұрын
Fans: "We hate this." Marvel: "We understand...and nothing will change."
@ascorvinus
@ascorvinus 2 ай бұрын
Someone should have explained it to C.B. Cebulski in terms he could understand. It’s like buying a pizza, opening the box, and finding one of the slices missing.
@Eyrrll
@Eyrrll 2 ай бұрын
With a coupon to see a photo of the missing slice online.
@Doopy_Huckleberry
@Doopy_Huckleberry 2 ай бұрын
Just stop 🤣🤣🤣
@Slitheringpeanut
@Slitheringpeanut 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter. He can't do anything. He has no power. He's there for you to beat up with statements like this.
@ascorvinus
@ascorvinus 2 ай бұрын
@@Slitheringpeanut He’s the editor in chief at Marvel, not the king of England. The position comes with certain responsibilities.
@soshiderek
@soshiderek 2 ай бұрын
What a lame idea.
@charlesbaserap8088
@charlesbaserap8088 2 ай бұрын
Incredibly it was to help avoid spoilers, meanwhile Marvel themselves spoiled the end of Blood Hunt a week in advance.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 2 ай бұрын
Marvel spoiled the end of Fall of X and the new status quo for X-Men months before the final issue came out because of the From the Ashes sollicites.
@charlesbaserap8088
@charlesbaserap8088 2 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 that's all they ever do, spoil events before they're done by teasing the next one already, it's such a stupid move, but par for course
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 2 ай бұрын
I really hate QR codes.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 2 ай бұрын
Me too.
@tykay8030
@tykay8030 2 ай бұрын
Me too
@jaggin7561
@jaggin7561 2 ай бұрын
Thing is this isnt what QR codes should be used for. Its only for bonus content or chances to win prizes and get deals. Not to finish reading the book you already got. This is subtracting the product not adding to it.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 2 ай бұрын
@@jaggin7561Yea it’s such a terrible idea, I’ve no idea how they thought this was going to work.
@ChristopherCummingsPM
@ChristopherCummingsPM 2 ай бұрын
Success comes from adding value, not breaking the experience. Ridiculous.
@aqdrobert
@aqdrobert 2 ай бұрын
I skip QR codes, supporting online comic writers who actually enjoy hearing from fans.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 2 ай бұрын
The QR codes extra pages was a very stupid idea. What the hell Brevoort are thinking? Who wanna expend 5 bucks in a incomplete comic book? Makes no sense. Marvel are killing the sales of this X-Men relaunch already since the start. Marvel just can't stop himself to piss off your costumers and old readers. What crazy times we're living now.
@Julius.Council3
@Julius.Council3 2 ай бұрын
All they did was officially kill my interest in picking up an X-Men comic. It isn't enough we're getting mediocre stories nowadays but to pull this crap on top of it all just accelerated the demise of western comics.
@YasserUM
@YasserUM 2 ай бұрын
Didn't even notice I had missed the QR until this video for Phoenix #1 NYX #1 X-Men #1! Imagine other readers being as confused about the story. Thought the last page was an advertisement.
@tosweetdelight
@tosweetdelight 2 ай бұрын
I think this discourages purchasing the individual issues, since the actual art can't be found inside the issue itself. It also takes away from the value of the issues for the same reason. These folks are truly brilliant. They're almost too smart for the rest of us, and I think that's why our enjoyment of Marvel comics has declined. It's because our pea-brains just can't keep up with Brevoort's and Co.'s genius.
@tomatocutter
@tomatocutter 2 ай бұрын
What happens when they take the website down?
@jravage77
@jravage77 2 ай бұрын
But...why would they assume that all the major spoilers would always end up on the last page?
@rachetmarvel931
@rachetmarvel931 2 ай бұрын
Yup,it makes no sense.
@eon1014
@eon1014 2 ай бұрын
At this point, I’m surprised that Disney didn’t make Marvel hide the QR code page behind some kind of paywall.
@saiyan_spawn4204
@saiyan_spawn4204 2 ай бұрын
That’ll be the next thing. They’ve got their heads so far up their asses that think they we would actually do that for their bullshit comics.
@spiderghost6940
@spiderghost6940 2 ай бұрын
Don't give them ideas. 😂
@pichomp3104
@pichomp3104 2 ай бұрын
Like Marvel needed another excuse for me NOT to buy their books. The terrible writing and art were huge factors in skipping Marvel. The QR codes are just the nugget of corn in the turd. I’ll stick with Energon Universe and the Ghost Machine books for the foreseeable future. Otherwise, a back catalogue of classic books will scratch that superhero itch.
@mbob4337
@mbob4337 2 ай бұрын
So the only reason why its done. Is to prevent early leaks. When a store gets the books. And their answer is for people to double dip. Because that last page isn't staying up on the servers in 40 years.
@mr.sneazy8737
@mr.sneazy8737 2 ай бұрын
I dont get the early leak excuse cause lets be honest nobody is reading these books, they only buy them to not break their collection. Besides all these pages show probably is them eating and talking about their feelings and who they sleep with. Boring.
@patrickzwarts4926
@patrickzwarts4926 2 ай бұрын
This was such a bad idea. People who buy physical, don't want a digital page.
@Kyle_Hastings
@Kyle_Hastings 2 ай бұрын
You didn't even mention the worst thing about this: it's highly unlikely Marvel will continue to support the service that hosts the final pages for more than a couple years. In 5 + years, owners of these floppies will never be able to read the last page. Anyone who ever picks up these issues from a back issue bin will not be able to see the last page.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 2 ай бұрын
In other words, Marvel is making its readers print the last page of the book they brought (at full price) themselves if they ever wanted to have a complete floppy issue in their own shelves. Readers might as well wait for the trade paper back.
@RicardoVillalobos80
@RicardoVillalobos80 2 ай бұрын
Right 100%
@GOTAisMe
@GOTAisMe 2 ай бұрын
SPOILER ALERT! I won't be spending a dime on any of these books
@3Sentences56
@3Sentences56 2 ай бұрын
If this starts showing up in the books I read I’m done with single issues. Literally giving the least comic to the people who pay the most per issue. Might as well wait for the trade or marvel unlimited
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 2 ай бұрын
"What? Don't you guys have phones?" Jesus Christ, who thought this was a good idea?
@QuorkEx
@QuorkEx 2 ай бұрын
This remind me of the episode of mash where where they are reading a mystery book, but the last page is missing.
@21Million
@21Million 2 ай бұрын
As a collector completionist, I will not buy incomplete garbage! I wont buy ANY of the new X-Men books. I'm done. back issues only. They could have "tested" this dumb idea on a less-important series.
@KingdomComeClark
@KingdomComeClark 2 ай бұрын
How well are these QR codes going to age? Will that last page be accessible in 10, 20, 30 years from now?
@charlesbaserap8088
@charlesbaserap8088 2 ай бұрын
@@KingdomComeClark unlikely because the Marvel AR stuff from years ago is no longer supported, so one day someone will try to read or reread a story or see the first appearance of a character and be unable to unless they bought the trade or printed out the page, it's patently idiotic
@randosaurusrex
@randosaurusrex 2 ай бұрын
Until people can no longer use comic books as segue to the movie industry, I don't see things getting any better.
@lo1bo2
@lo1bo2 2 ай бұрын
All right, someone else besides me knows how to spell segue!
@jaggin7561
@jaggin7561 2 ай бұрын
There are no excuses for this stupidity. I don't know what kind of game they think they're playing here other than to piss people off.
@kaczok1985
@kaczok1985 2 ай бұрын
At this point I refuse to believe that they're not pissing people off intentionally.
@staceycarson9616
@staceycarson9616 2 ай бұрын
I think the thing that they're missing is how much of a sales bump spoilers can create. Unless, of course, they're talking about bad storytelling spoilers. And we all know Marvel doesn't tell bad stories, right?
@JankenChamp
@JankenChamp 2 ай бұрын
Everything I loved my whole life,... now seems to hate me !
@dice_fumbler
@dice_fumbler 2 ай бұрын
Are they trying to destroy the business? Because this is another nail in the coffin.
@Sly_404
@Sly_404 2 ай бұрын
Everyone that still buys Marvel comics at this point kinda asks to get ripped off one way or another.
@jackhowe6
@jackhowe6 2 ай бұрын
We sell cars! (wheels extra)
@robertkulb6640
@robertkulb6640 2 ай бұрын
How can you spoil trash?
@Master-Mystic01
@Master-Mystic01 2 ай бұрын
Can you imagine sending these books to be graded by CGC and getting a 9.8 qualified for missing pages. 😆
@bandoogiemanz
@bandoogiemanz 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering this as well. Although I don't really envision any of these books will ever be worth grading.
@charlesharrison1907
@charlesharrison1907 2 ай бұрын
Of course Gail Simone would support the idea because she wants to keep her job. The man in the hat needs to go because he is out of touch. Smh 🤦🏾‍♂️
@MrRawnch
@MrRawnch 2 ай бұрын
It'll give Marvel an excuse to lazily re-print this series after the QR codes stop working.
@RidiculousThoughts
@RidiculousThoughts 2 ай бұрын
Those QR codes should have contained actual fun things like updated character bios, secrets about a particular character, or extra downloadable artwork (like wallpapers). They could have even continued rumors/Sinister's Red Diamond Secrets giving fun riddles about what's to come. But nope, they just wanted user data but were not honest enough to say it.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 2 ай бұрын
After they mishandled the characters for the past five years, there's hardly anything interesting about them left to share on a secret updated data page.
@RidiculousThoughts
@RidiculousThoughts 2 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 I agree about the mishandling, however I think there were still cool things about many of the characters prior to the Krakoan era that can be explored. So far, only Geoff Thorne (X-Force) is proving capable of making a good X-Book. Pick up X-Force, it was decent!
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 2 ай бұрын
@@RidiculousThoughts I do think many unpopular characters are worth exploring. The popular ones on the other hand need an extended vacation from mainstream.
@RidiculousThoughts
@RidiculousThoughts 2 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 Agreed!
@Butter625
@Butter625 2 ай бұрын
Marvel is no position to even ask something like this.
@grandmarquee
@grandmarquee 2 ай бұрын
This was a bad idea. Why would I buy a physical copy.
@arcasa73
@arcasa73 2 ай бұрын
"If you dont like my QR, dont read my books" - Gail Simone, 2024
@comicbookreadings
@comicbookreadings 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t order a single issue from the x-men relaunch. Skipping the entire thing.
@itsalbertduhh
@itsalbertduhh 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully they don’t introduce new characters in those QR codes because people with the dilemma of cameos and first appearances would go crazy about where and what issue number matter lol
@FairPlayGaming
@FairPlayGaming 2 ай бұрын
I would not be surprised one bit if this was an attempt to harvest data about users, which could later be sold by Marvel to a third-party ad agency.
@resistancepublishing
@resistancepublishing 2 ай бұрын
This is one of the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard from a publisher. What about the first appearance of a villain or new hero on the last page? Does that make the physical book less valuable? Well of course it does. Who the hell is running the marketing department at marvel?
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 2 ай бұрын
This is a good question.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 2 ай бұрын
An uneducated monkey with a hat.
@Bam123412
@Bam123412 2 ай бұрын
So basically if you buy this run for 2 years, your missing out on 1 whole comic book story, despite paying £5.00 per issue. You then have to buy the trades as well to get the full story. Outrageous!
@mlynskey520
@mlynskey520 2 ай бұрын
They screwed the collect ability of their comics. 10 years from now that qr code isn't going to work. So the comic is incomplete. 3:18
@jasonhbush
@jasonhbush 2 ай бұрын
Marvel is just saving me so much money.😂 no interest in buying any titles that use this.
@YasserUM
@YasserUM 2 ай бұрын
Another nail in the coffin for buying single issues, maybe this will get more towards DC
@OrthwormJEB
@OrthwormJEB 2 ай бұрын
I'll never understand the appeal of QR codes. Aside from using them to enter a convention or an event, I don't see the appeal of using it for stuff like this when I can just go to the site manually.
@415Dwilliams
@415Dwilliams 2 ай бұрын
What the hell were they thinking?! Wait till the day when those QR links are no longer available.
@TheDwighteagle
@TheDwighteagle 2 ай бұрын
i love when the dvr cuts off the last 5 minutes of whatever im watching. If only family fued had a qr code.. id finally learn the fate of the harris family.
@TheInstrospectM
@TheInstrospectM 2 ай бұрын
It's just unforgivable that you sell a printed work of art and it doesn't have the art. I don't see how anyone thought that idea is in any way interesting, or innovative. The whole point of buying something in a printed format, is because you WANT IT IN A PRINTED FORMAT.
@glarepherson
@glarepherson 2 ай бұрын
I have learned rhst most pepole higher up in corporate don't have a clue what's happening on the ground level ..watch any episode of undercover boss and be amazed how clueless bosses are ... add to the fact that none of these people have kids to know what kids would think is cool ..they are clueless
@jbbrolic
@jbbrolic 2 ай бұрын
They have made the pirated version the better product. Stupid.
@maxmazzotti6651
@maxmazzotti6651 2 ай бұрын
Piracy is illegal
@Nightcyberspud
@Nightcyberspud 2 ай бұрын
Really if they are doing this they should reprint the page at the start of the next issue
@Chris-rk6mp
@Chris-rk6mp 2 ай бұрын
This is the dumbest idea I have ever heard of in comics and I have been collecting for over 30 years. Its like Marvel and DC lately are trying to get people to stop collecting. I have a full run of ASM and collect for my collection but once it hits 1000 I might stop and use my money for older comics.
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 2 ай бұрын
We've been waiting for this video. Let's go!!
@TheBortster1976
@TheBortster1976 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to "How to kill a relaunch 101", just in case it won't be DOA as expected.
@rodrigogirao8344
@rodrigogirao8344 2 ай бұрын
If I bought a book and found that BS, I'd go back to the store and demand my money back.
@robertgray1365
@robertgray1365 2 ай бұрын
This has to be the most bafflingly stupid idea I've ever heard. Why does every marketing decision coming out of the "house of ideas" in the last few years make it seem like Marvel is being run by people who hate comics?
@kevingallagher188
@kevingallagher188 2 ай бұрын
Another reason to stop reading new comics.
@edwardhipkiss281
@edwardhipkiss281 2 ай бұрын
Remember when Marvel were slated for the -1 issues? Most of which were actually quite fun to read. Now this is is something to truly be p*ssed about, along with their idiotic red band editions on top of incessant, pointless relaunches. Trust Brevoort to not get it the utter maroon. What next, publish issues that you can only see the text on if you scan a QR code for each page to stop anything being spoilt? How about publishing something readable with decent art? There's a radical idea that fans might actually like!
@SlashTheWeasel
@SlashTheWeasel 2 ай бұрын
What made this a good idea?! Did they go view the page on their phone themselves to check out how well this will work? When reading comic, you just want to sit and read and enjoy
@Master-Mystic01
@Master-Mystic01 2 ай бұрын
Oh boy…I can’t wait until we don’t get the end of MCU movies but we can get the last two minutes if you purchase the new MCU app for $29.99 per month. Heck, they’ll even throw in the end credit scenes free if you scan the convenient QR code on your ticket stub within 24 hours of going to the movies. Good times Marvel, good times.
@FearMonarch
@FearMonarch 2 ай бұрын
Haha aw, you guys get your own "what you guys don't own phones?" moment that Diablos mobile game announcement gave us
@patrickmoreau7592
@patrickmoreau7592 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the buyer beware segment Wes I guess it’s another reason not to buy Marvel
@VicAtNyte
@VicAtNyte 2 ай бұрын
Jeezus Marvel reeaally needs to get a better marketing team for their comic publishing.. It sounds like it was what you said it should have been but by the time it got upchain ro the higher ups & their marketing team, that it was a totally different product. Its like you created a beautiful Elephant and by the time it got to marketing it was a pink mouse with big ears. Also its like if I spent $20+ to watch Deadpool& Wolverine and then the film ends 20min before the credits roll and they give you a QR code as you leave for the rest of the film- you'd want all of your money back!
@drupiter517
@drupiter517 2 ай бұрын
Yet another reason why I jumped ship to Ghost Machine. Sorry Marvel, once you eventually cancel FF ill be gone for good.
@aaronrankin1092
@aaronrankin1092 2 ай бұрын
Marvel Comics has become just like Walmart now…
@cylria
@cylria 2 ай бұрын
What? No "Don't you people have phones?" jokes?
@attieyag
@attieyag 2 ай бұрын
All done collecting XMen
@captainearink
@captainearink 2 ай бұрын
This literally happened with Diablo Immortal and the comment about "don't you all have mobile phones" pissed everyone off. - For me, I'm buying uncanny X-men for the Luciano Vecchio cover variants. But if the QR code happens to go past the first issue I won't carry on buying it.
@Lord.Caedus
@Lord.Caedus 2 ай бұрын
Personally, I'm into spoilers whether be movies, games, etc. I'll either be hyped for the product or completely bummed which will help how to spend my money.
@Americantexan
@Americantexan 2 ай бұрын
I don’t pull xmen. But if they do that to any of the runs I do then I’m cancelling. I hope this goes the way of the marvel AR
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 2 ай бұрын
Marvel forcing paying customers to acquire and utilise almost all the means required to start permanently sailing the high seas for their products is hilarious.
@ComicsForLife2023
@ComicsForLife2023 2 ай бұрын
Did the prices go down? Because if they are doing this and the comic is still the same high price, then it really is a rip off. What's more, they are giving the readers homework. Marvel Comics just wants to be bad at everything, same as their owners, Disney.
@gavsmi6452
@gavsmi6452 2 ай бұрын
What a stupid idea. I saw online the missing page for X-Men #1 and it wasn't anything special. At least they are now saying it's just for the issue #1's.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 2 ай бұрын
They are trying to save face.
@jasonirizarry9619
@jasonirizarry9619 2 ай бұрын
Wes your thoughts on the QR Codes was well conceived, better than anything Disney Comics can put together
@chuckie6267
@chuckie6267 2 ай бұрын
If they want to kill print comics this is a sure way to do it
@Umbra702
@Umbra702 2 ай бұрын
According to Bleeding Cool, Marvel to discontinue QR codes in comics after limited use in X-Men: From The Ashes launch issues. Rumors at San Diego Comic-Con suggested widespread QR usage, leading to backlash.
@TheSnowabbit
@TheSnowabbit 2 ай бұрын
What a crock! This sux! People paid for a complete issue. They could at least include it as a lead in page in the next issue. I'm done.
@bradhogue2029
@bradhogue2029 2 ай бұрын
Marvel: The House Of (Bad) Ideas.
@arthurtripp6922
@arthurtripp6922 2 ай бұрын
Marvel seems to want to destroying its products look what they did to Captain America. Can't they.find some writers and artists.
@JimT-p3m
@JimT-p3m 2 ай бұрын
As this exploding Marvel QR controversy inflames the anger and rage across what remains of the comic collecting world, and to the extent that the FOC process details allow, I have to wonder of how many comic retailers are now in the process of effectively or largely "zeroing out" or greatly reducing their orders for subsequent issues. I think it would be more preferable to perhaps explain why their store has decided not to carry particular Marvel books rather than deal with the customer blow-back about this Marvel move which has nothing to do with the store.
@Jaymalkin980
@Jaymalkin980 2 ай бұрын
Next is charging for the last page
@Tooznoze
@Tooznoze 2 ай бұрын
Wasn't it Blizzard that pissed off an entire room at E3 saying "Don't you all have cellphones?"
@stevehnatko1050
@stevehnatko1050 2 ай бұрын
This is probably more unexceptionable than the state of the stories because of the propaganda. How dare you charge anyone for a product that isn't complete!!!
@cd3532
@cd3532 2 ай бұрын
Good. If you're still giving money to Marvel(or DC) and buying this garbage, you absolutely deserve it. The problem is no longer them, they are what they are and tell you repeatedly. The problem is YOU.
@couldnotbereachedforfurthe2647
@couldnotbereachedforfurthe2647 2 ай бұрын
Good Lord!! Their stories are NOT that good. Get over yourselves, Marvel.
@cancelme4200
@cancelme4200 2 ай бұрын
They aren’t good at all. The new X-Men releases have been trash.
@ghostfacecollectah6827
@ghostfacecollectah6827 2 ай бұрын
I hate QR codes! I’ll drop everything if this is where we’re headed.
@chuckgibson3973
@chuckgibson3973 2 ай бұрын
I don't think this is going to matter much for them. At this point, I doubt that there's THAT many people who want to read it to BOTHER with pirating it. This will just drive people further away from stores and make them more likely to wait for the trades with intact, complete stories.
@victoriapagac
@victoriapagac 2 ай бұрын
i'd disabled i cant use a celphone wheel and and using a tablet is hard looks like used trades only for xmen
@mebobbygillis
@mebobbygillis 2 ай бұрын
Lucky for me I'll never buy a marvel comic again
@mlynskey520
@mlynskey520 2 ай бұрын
12:24 should have been a QR code to get a phone theme of that character or comic that would have been better
@reisart
@reisart 2 ай бұрын
This is Phase 1 ....on Phase 2 they will charge for the last page!!!!
@raiderbear1
@raiderbear1 2 ай бұрын
Awesome work mate
@themaker2149
@themaker2149 2 ай бұрын
I'm probably going to drop x men cause of this and its not cause they tried something new it's cause Tom is tone deaf to the people he's supposed to be selling to
@kyleolson8977
@kyleolson8977 2 ай бұрын
On the QR Code page, the X-Men tell you to drink more Ovaltine.
@jerryharris6342
@jerryharris6342 2 ай бұрын
Let me spoiler the end of every X-Men comic book from here on out: It'll suck.
@GrantSchreiber-nz5tz
@GrantSchreiber-nz5tz 2 ай бұрын
Not really a computer guy, but are QR codes everlasting forever things? I mean, will the QR code still be working in three years? Three months?
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 2 ай бұрын
They're not.
@troypeterson2156
@troypeterson2156 2 ай бұрын
lol. i hope they wonder why people like me who were once big xmen buyers/readers/fans and theoretically are willing / wanting to return to them.... arent. Im glad I dumped the x books back in the late nineties. every time ive considered dipping back in, something happens (like this) and I keep walking in the other direction. Im not buying marvel. im a life long comic addict and LOVE so many marvel characters (including xmen), and im not buying virtually ANY marvel anymore. what a mystery.
@ricrey431
@ricrey431 2 ай бұрын
The ultimate goal is to sell a dozen slightly different prints, and you scan the QR code on the back to view the whole comic online where you'll need a subscription to keep it, *BREATHES* only for a hacking or server fail to cause your account to be wiped out, anyways - only for it to be discovered by independent KZbin journalists that is was all staged to make you buy more digital copies since they long disabled the download from the QR. *HUFF, HUFF! Regain composure* What a comically villainous scheme to prop up sells and lower overhead. Diabolical!
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