ThinMannVentures: The Tragedy of Z-Black

[@realityme]

I started boxing in 1980 at 6 years old. I was taught on the streets in Far Rockaway by prison boxers that knew Z-Black. Everything he is saying is 100% true. In fact, he is being EXTREMELY modest in describing his skill set. I know MONSTERS who ran prisons in NY that told me, they would never fight Z-Black. He was a super athlete. Bench pressing over 600lbs, calisthenics master with a punch that would kill....literally

[@tariqziyad8062]

You New Yorkers always got fairy tales and stories like people are superhuman. Go sit down somewhere. Santa Claus dont exist

[@astralmindny9055]

Far rock America!!! I'm right next door in Long Beach, salute!

[@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg]

Thank you for sharing

[@BigDutchKingTut]

This was phenomenal, Thinmann. That trauma make monsters out of some of us..sad, but real.

[@thinmannventures]

Peace and thanks for continuing to take the time to check these pieces and to offer your comment(s).

[@dr.patrickgaham6123]

As a child in Long Beach, NY, whenever brothers discussed the “superstars of the block,” Z Black was often used as a comparative benchmark for combat. Now as a grown man and advocate for community and Black male development, I view him as an example of our failure to empathize and acknowledge the pain of young Black boys and men. We can change the narrative. Blessings and RIP for your truth, Z Black.

[@thinmannventures]

Thank you for taking the time to view but for also sharing your words/experience/insight Doc.

[@astralmindny9055]

Well said Pat. This is Carla and Norman brother, I went to school with iEdwin.

[@tat2jitsu411]

These vids are classic could watch them all day RIP MR Z BLACK I hope your in a better place

[@righteousshadowsdojopt.3979]

Namean. Peace 7

[@Br3nTonWaite2260]

rest in peace, Zblack was a horrible man a notorious booty bandit in the New York prison system who wad locked up for his part in the Spree Crest Diner Orgy the world's a better place without him. I suggest you do your research on this block and KZbin videos

[@SunMagnetic]

This is explosive. It's easily one of the deepest videos I've ever seen. This must have been therapeutic for the brother. Thanks for making it happen and sharing. So many lost giants and geniuses in this system

[@thinmannventures]

I agree. The strange thing is that it took all this time for me to actually realize it; in the beginning, when I first began these interviews, I was so focused on the martial aspects of these brother's lives that I'd hear the personal bits they'd share but it would not register (with me) the way it should. So now, being older (and smarter) I've begun to go back and refocus. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.

[@froilangonzalez963]

He got what he deserves at the end God don't like ugly 💯

[@JosephAlmeida-qi7mb]

Thx 4 this, I’m enjoyin it now. Ofc I’ve heard da ‘stories’…1 quick question cause I’m readin comments on his once ‘athletic prowess’: was the brother tall? As in 6’5” plus? Thx, May he RIP…

[@thinmannventures]

6’5” would be about right. I’m 6’1” and he was more than a little taller than me.

[@broadwaybiz211]

U got more interviews wit him or jus dis part?

[@jay-rock6627]

R.I.P. Z-Black I’m glad I meet you a few times in my life you’re presence was always felt & you’re name rung so many bells so many Knockouts under you’re belt. Everybody says you could’ve been the heavy weight champion & even beat Mike Tyson. All the street fighters said you ran the Jails You are truly a legend. I never saw you fight, but I heard plenty of stories some say you were 10x times better than Riddick Bowe.

[@firstscorpio]

I have heard nothing but horror stories about this man since I was a teenager. I heard how much of a gladiator and rapist he was. I never saw how he looked or heard him speak until now. It is so sad to hear the origins of his pain and the continued pain all his life. He could have been a hall of fame boxer. Thankyou for the interview.

[@astralmindny9055]

You from Long Island?

[@astralmindny9055]

Yeah he definitely could have boxes, he could have played Football too.

[@firstscorpio]

​@@astralmindny9055yeah I amnfrom L.I

[@thinmannventures]

Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment

[@harvydent7154]

So many people are born thru, into, and out of pain. Hurt people, hurt people.

[@thinmannventures]

True; a story behind every story.

[@harvydent7154]

@@thinmannventures Indeed. Immensely powerful channel you've created. I've only found your page a couple of days ago and have shared your videos with multiple people including my Instagram. Thank you for your contributions. ⚔️💯💜💯⚔️

[@thinmannventures]

@harvydent7154 Tganks for watching and for sharing. I mean that. That is my goal; to turn people onto other people that we should have been turned onto a long time ago. We’re playing catch up on our own history and culture. Thank you again.

[@harvydent7154]

@@thinmannventures do you have the Toyka available? I'm recovering from a stroke and lung embolism? And it's funny how small the world is, in sharing a video of yours with a good brother of mine, he told me yall build from time to time. Brother D. Marks. ⚔️💯💜💯⚔️

[@thinmannventures]

@@harvydent7154 Ha! I suppose to meet up with him in about 2 hours. Good Brother. A scholar. Yes, I have Toykas. I will give you my email and from there you can take my number. I customize The Toykas but I also have some information (it’s free) that can help with that stroke. I’d like to introduce you to it; like I said, it’s not about money, just something I’d like to share that I’m sure will help. [e-mail]

[@pwhales264]

This is sad and Powerful interview. I wish that Z BLACK could have left more informative information.

[@dhellwitit]

Thing in life is you never know what a person has been through in their life to make them act like they do!!! Sad

[@getithowyoulive2.]

Yup the cycle of abuse got to stop

[@JamesBailey-jp1zc]

Pop vazquez from the What You thought podcast brought me here 😆

[@kingmaj813]

😂 that why I’m here I was wondering if this was that z black

[@MrTonyhead]

Stumbled on that video this morning 😂😂

[@thinmannventures]

Peace. Could you direct me to the episode that Z Black was mentioned. Thanks.

[@kingmaj813]

@@thinmannventures just type in what you thought podcast or pop Vazquez z black and it’s gonna pop up

[@thinmannventures]

Yeah; I’ve seen that one. Thanks though; watched it again.

[@derrickbrewer8311]

I heard a lot of horror stories about this monster and Mother Dear and one arm row thank you MOST HIGH I never ran into any of these monsters. They were real life monsters!

[@antoinebrown2798]

They would’ve died..

[@astralmindny9055]

​@antoinebrown2798 Mexicans tried to slit his throat in jail and came up short. Correctional officers tried to get at him in the elevator fully shackled, and when the elevator opened ALL of them were out cold except 1 CO.

[@erictubbs6854]

@@antoinebrown2798 Yeah, ok lol internet tough guy

[@thinmannventures]

@erictubbs6854 Ok….

[@Exquisite_The_P]

What is tragic he hurt more people and families than we can imagine and his ending was due to self demise

[@astralmindny9055]

Facts

[@Exquisite_The_P]

@@astralmindny9055 I did a video review on him

[@DwayneEdwards-gh4pt]

Z Black, thank you for your story. U have helped me. RIP

[@thinmannventures]

Hopefully you are (and will not be) the only one. Thank you for watching.

[@Br3nTonWaite2260]

This man was a sicko, Zblack was a horrible man a notorious booty bandit in the New York prison system who wad locked up for his part in the Spree Crest Diner Orgy the world's a better place without him. I suggest you do your research on this block and KZbin videos

[@stevenm6453]

This was very good except for the background music it wasn’t needed.

[@byronmcdougald6569]

Man my heart goes out to the brothers and sisters who were made to endure THIS as children 🙏 May The Most High have Mercy on these souls that feel LOST and I pray that this Brother is a Soul Winner for Christ 👊💯. The Reason you see our Black boys and Girls carrying on the way they are... Old Head said it BEST. Good interview

[@kaleem519]

I lived in Long Island for a minute I heard some horrible stories about this guy..heard he would knock dudes out and take they manhood..

[@astralmindny9055]

Yeah that's facts, both in Long Beach AND Hempstead. I'm not gonna cap, I was terrified of dude. I remember he took my brother weed and my bro was like " oh hell nah poo poo(another one of his nicknames) you gonna beat my ass but we fighting for this weed," and they started laughing, him and my bro was cool, but he doesn't know he's my bro.

[@carltonjohnson2349]

I knew him as Black Donald and Pu Pu way back in the 3rd grade when he would hang in the bathroom all day at East school in Long Beach NY. Waiting to take your money or whatever you had. I hope he’s in a much better place now.RIP brother.

[@Ricobaca]

Poo poo like 💩?

[@kwppropertymang]

RIP my brother ….

[@chrisblack5054]

He brought up Mackie...gangstas crew..mackie and Nova ran the gangstas..i fought into the gangstas in 1975...Nova named me lil Nova...and me and lil mackie ran the young gangstas..i remember ZBlack very well...

[@jeromebrooks3449]

Damn... This is one of the most saddest, heartbreaking, soul feeling videos/stories that I have ever seen and I mean that from heart I mean I can understand ppl saying he's a bad guy this and a bad guy that yeah yeah I hear you but hear this you can't be human, you can't have a heart, you can't believe in God if you don't feel bad for this brother... I send nothing but prayers, love and positive energy up for this brother R.I.P. King 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@righteousshadowsdojopt.3979]

This is some other ..... Peace

[@jaykaynum5569]

Peace 7

[@whatujackintv.talkcast]

This was passionate, heartfelt .

[@thinmannventures]

Thank you for watching, thank you for commenting.

[@whatujackintv.talkcast]

@thinmannventures I'm from coney island as well 45! I been up north as well . I heard his name from others that's been upnorth. But this short film documentary - was passionate heartfelt . - I hope someone seen this an tern this into a film - it's worth it .

[@thinmannventures]

I agree. Check the other brothers highlighted on my channel; they could make movies based on all of them (but I do agree that Z Black is different; you could live a lifetime and never hear a story like his again). I’m about to check your channel out now.

[@whatujackintv.talkcast]

@@thinmannventures this short film hit me hard ! I'm pretty sure he had alot to say ! Me as well - I'm on my own documentary! Yes I been in Comstock & more - on tour banging young !

[@sumnercarter]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@thinmannventures]

And Thank You, for taking the time to watch and to comment.

[@rico1time]

That's my Man's. Poo poo Aka...Z Black! Grew up wit him...RIP!

[@thinmannventures]

Poo Poo; that’s a new one. Ya’ll must go waaay back.

[@Chopping-it-up]

I grew up in long beach. On pine street in the projects. Back in the 70s 80s and early 90s long beach was not the town it is today it was a wild town back then.

[@astralmindny9055]

I know. When Rays and Herbies fish market was there that's scam When LB was crazy. I'm sure you know me, my mother used to work at the fish market.

[@Chopping-it-up]

@@astralmindny9055 do you mean the fish market that walbuams supermarket replaced? They have been tearing down all of the black areas of long beach for a bout 40 years now. Very little left of the hood.

[@astralmindny9055]

@@Chopping-it-up it was close to there, yeah!!!

[@broadwaybiz211]

Say what you want but son name was ringing Bells all throughout the state pen

[@Mathematicx]

RIP Z Black. It would've been powerful to see some sort of demonstration.

[@Javier-pe7ie]

Don’t feel sorry for this guy, just yet…. He did a lot of damage to those that couldn’t defend against him.

[@leesanurse6474]

Right that's what I said. Tf he talking about nobody tried to stop u. I'm sure the ppl he victimized said no stop u don't have to do this and his big nasty 🍑 continued.

[@carolyndaniels386]

He was hurt and never recovered from the pain.

[@BigDutchKingTut]

Rest in peace, Z Black. Thank you thinmann.

[@quincyholland1868]

No peace for bandits yall crazy talking about rip for a bandit ya’ll weird

[@BigDutchKingTut]

@@quincyholland1868 what if we bandits as well, it's about the message though, the art, the story..but I feel you..but was he still a bandit?

[@aeubanks0]

RIP Brother...🙏✨

[@broadwaybiz211]

This exclusive jus subscribed

[@Daghostclk]

RIP to Z Black. May you soul be ease 🫡

[@salj.5459]

Do you even know who you are saying "RIP" to? This guy was a serial grapist

[@broadwaybiz211]

I heard he was nice in every sport

[@getithowyoulive2.]

For his brother to do that to him, most likely it was done to his brother. The cycle gotta stop smh

[@astralmindny9055]

He used to come into the MLK center and we used to be OUT! when we worked for the city, he'd jump on the work trucks and we was terrified!! We were like 17-19.

[@astralmindny9055]

Last story. My man popped him. My boy was 16 and he came down the block to strong arm him and his bros and my man popped him and did 3 years. They saw each other in jail and my boy was on the minor tear and and when he pulled up, ALL the minors stood up with my guy, my dude got his props and became a legend after that.

[@jesusshuttlesworth4101]

What’s yo mans name?

[@astralmindny9055]

@@jesusshuttlesworth4101 you know who it was.

[@astralmindny9055]

Yooo..... you should try to do a netflix series or screenplay about black, AKA " POO POO," I was thinking about it.

[@righteousshadowsdojopt.3979]

Peace Almighty. Any release date for the çGrandmaster of New York "?

[@thinmannventures]

Peace! I know I keep saying soon but need to get things set up so that people can donate and such. You'll see the advertisements shortly. I promised myself that I'd become familiarized with the business side of this channel during Ramadan. That really is the only hold up. Thanks for holdin' on and always showing support.

[@righteousshadowsdojopt.3979]

Peace Almighty. This should be on Netflix now that I think about it. Holla at 50 cent,he'd probably be with the ish. I can see you're humble b.u.t this is some other ish. You have a jewel,let it shine. Holla a Jay-Z also or some rapper/entertainer that can get this where it need to be. This is one of a kind. You have to think,nobody on the planet has this. Also,Holla at Mike Tyson. Now that I think about it,he's probably the best person to get with out of the said above. Peace Almighty

[@ViralMediaTrends]

@@righteousshadowsdojopt.3979just holla at these moguls 🤔🤷🏾🤦🏿

[@astralmindny9055]

If yall from LB stand up and shoot a like!!

[@johnbrown8300]

I hate I feel him. God and age equal ❤😢tym. 💪

[@Culley91]

Wait this is Z black talking himself. ??

[@thinmannventures]

Yes Sir. It is. May be his only interview.

[@astralmindny9055]

Hell yeah, crazy right? I'm from LB and never knew this shit was out there, I'm about to send this to the WHOLE hood!!

[@516samwicked]

Wicked my guy s.i.p 🌹🍾🙏🏾💫🕊️

[@catherinesmith3754]

How long was he in prison

[@astralmindny9055]

Damn near his entire life. I heard the stories since I was like 12, and the first time I actually saw him, I was about........29. I would say he did about 30-33 years out of his life.

[@Exquisite_The_P]

I had to do a review on this video

[@thinmannventures]

Yeah? Where can I view it?

[@astralmindny9055]

I ain't gonna hold you, WHENEVER this man pulled up for the little time he WAS on the streets, I was out, there's no way in HELL I was trying to be within 15-20 ft of this man, oh hell no! And the crazy shit is that my sister and brother was SOLIDIFIED in the hood, but he didn't know they were my siblings and I'm a halfway pretty boy fr fr, I wanted NO parts of him.

[@rickrogers951]

May Allah bless the Brother's soul, forgive him and admit him into paradise...

[@salj.5459]

No way

[@asiatic2623]

No one wanted problems with Z.

[@astralmindny9055]

I couldn't be within 30-50 feet from him, it was that crazy.

[@astralmindny9055]

When he got shot a dude got him high and sent him to rob my boy bro and he lit his ass up!!!

[@richshankle8412]

So what happen with Sha Sha n Hollywood???

[@astralmindny9055]

He stunting, ALL CAP. I was talking to someone who just gave me a weed pack and dude a kind of feminie, everybody in the town knows him for being feminie. We had a few words, nothing crazy, and Z black saw us talking and posted up on the fence, now at this point I was TERRIFIED because i know how he give it up. Dude said " oh okay ur right, you probably did come to my house at 4:00, i wasn't there, i was getting my hair braided, and Z black said to him, " That's when i would have kicked him in the ass." I walked off, and as soon as i got to the corner i was GHOST!!! this dude might be the biggest menace on Long Island, and he lived 2 blocks away from me

[@vincentwitt7919]

Everyone says you was Great at every sport etc May Allah guide you

[@thinmannventures]

True. I’ve been intending to speak with a few Brothers I know that can attest to that.

[@whatujackintv.talkcast]

173 for the support

[@catherinesmith3754]

How old was he when he died and how did he lose his teeth and what did he die from

[@astralmindny9055]

He overdosed and he was about 58-60, and he lost his teeth smoking Crack.

[@cushanjones1426]

Peace

[@kaleem519]

this was a great interview just wish you would've asked him why as he himself being a victim molestation why did he turn around and victimized countless ppl

[@thinmannventures]

Thank you. It should be noted, that my original purpose in interviewing him was the martial arts/boxing angle. Back then, when I was doing the interviews, I was very focused on the goal, which was The Grandmasters of New York documentary, and didn’t want to get sidetracked by other issues and angles. I did, however, know that Zee’s story was bigger than martial arts and boxing so I knew I’d come back to it eventually. This is why I edited and uploaded this piece approximately 10 years after it was recorded. I have a lot of footage like that (from the other masters) that I’ve been going back over, since I never intended for my channel to be exclusively about martial arts. Thanks for checking it out; I’ve considered doing a follow up with some of the background behind the interview and also include some of the people that knew him (mostly from prison).

[@squarebiz71]

👍🏾🫡

[@wisebrim5967]

I was in sing sing with him

[@BigDragon95]

Does z black have any children ?

[@thinmannventures]

Peace. He did mention at least one child when we spoke but I don’t recall if it was more than one.

[@wesleyrobinson4949]

I heard he has a son that is a good kid and works for the Town of Hempstead. He looks just like his father.

[@Exquisite_The_P]

@@thinmannventures he do have a son a kid went to school with him and said he was the biggest kid in high school but he hated his father

[@broadwaybiz211]

Strong island

[@oygTriggaRu356P]

Is this the z black aka pissy black everyone talks about

[@thinmannventures]

There are a lot of stories (some true, some false) about Z-Black, but yes, the brother presented in this piece was also known as Pissy Black.

[@oygTriggaRu356P]

@@thinmannventures ok thank u

[@Exquisite_The_P]

@@oygTriggaRu356P yea I did a video on what originally got him locked up

[@astralmindny9055]

Yeah but he was like 14 back then.

[@jesusshuttlesworth4101]

If this is pissy black he got stopped by Sha kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJbdnKuGg8psiMUsi=edsEIR5Y1uQozfYc

[@jaykaynum5569]

22:52 🥾

[@Lovemee1973]

Thought that was big herc fo a minute.

[@MAR-oj8tu]

🙏🏿🕯️🫡