Third-Party Controllers - The Good, the Bad, and the Stupid / MY LIFE IN GAMING

We take a look at over 20 (twenty!) Third-party controllers from different generations of consoles including the SN30 Pro from 8bitdo, Joyzz from Krikzz, Bralwer64 fromRetro Fighters, and tons more from Mad Catz, Nuby, Beeshu and Hyperkin!
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[@JRPGCentral]

I never thought I'd get excited about an hour long video about third party controllers but here I am.

[@robertadammccuesullivan2084]

i never thought id hear cory say freakin, but here i am.

[@ChrisGhysel]

Worse even. They could do a whole channel dedicated to just controller videos and it would still be entertaining. Here's hoping this is just part 1 of an ongoing series... ;)

[@TheRealPapaChico]

Whats up dude lol funny I see you on youtube. Been a big fan of your FB group. Keep on keeping on sir.

[@JRPGCentral]

Chico P. Haha thanks man! Appreciate it.

[@painreliever83]

I didn't realise it was an hour long when I clicked it. Oh well, I'm in it now...

[@Nieveria]

"hey man toss me a controller" "i can't it keeps comin back"

[@sebastiandewolfe7849]

*Boomer Ang*

[@raythulhu5143]

The Mad Catz N64 controller sucked hard. I had 3 Nintento controllers, and 1 Mad Catz. Back when we were having 4 man GoldenEye marathons, the winner of each round had to use the Mad Catz in the next round, as a handicap.

[@ZemanTheMighty]

The boomerang?

[@raythulhu5143]

@@ZemanTheMighty The Boomerang wasn't Mad Catz. The Mad Catz 64 looked almost the same as Nintendo's

[@requiem6465]

@@ZemanTheMighty THE COCK CONTROLLER

[@Trilltendo64]

Bro I swear I had like 3 of them all the analog sticks broke off.

[@phillystevesteak6982]

Holy shit, that's such a 90s couch co-op thing to do! I love it

[@SteleCat]

Hyperkin: Confidently sends My Life in Gaming free controllers for review. Also Hyperkin: doesn't test said controllers first to be sure a rare, embarrassing dud doesn't slip through.

[@GatorRay]

OOPS!

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

SteleCat In a way, it’s kinda good that they treat MLIG the same way as normal buyers. But it’s not good that they don’t test their controllers, they should test them all rather than test none.

[@agentburningbutters3655]

Stelecat, your a minecraft person!

[@xPLAYnOfficial]

Personally I really liked the Duke controller. It felt great in my small hands and is to this day my most-liked controller.

[@andrewlawrence4782]

This video has such high production value I can hardly believe this is free content. This type of show is whats really pushing KZbin forward. Good on you for making such high quality videos! Well done!

[@mattsephton]

Andrew Lawrence free as in ads, right?

[@ziginox]

I mostly agree, but there were a couple of times where they cut to game audio and it was ridiculously loud, compared to the dialog.

[@yellow98gt]

Hight quality with the dirty controllers. Next time a little cleaning before filming would be nice

[@Strawberry92fs]

I will remind you that Mr. Roger's Neighborhood and The Joy of Painting were available for free on public access television in the 1980's.

[@yueying7838]

2 drippy Nintendorks?

[@KillScottKill]

"This controller's more of a novelty for fans of the Wu Tang Clan than anything else" is certainly not a sentence I expected to hear today.

[@JGLCSW]

"Wu-tang is for the children."

[@BoomBang101]

Ikr

[@jimbo-fk4dq]

Wu-Tang Controller ain't nothing to play with!

[@justawajz]

Lol. Same! I was cracking up!! 😂

[@emanatingf]

@@jimbo-fk4dq Lol

[@GameSack]

The SNES ASCIIPAD is amazing. The buttons, d-pad and membranes are identical and directly replaceable with a real SNES controller. The ONLY difference is that it has slo-mo and turbo. Anyone who poo-poos the ASCIIPAD but glorifies the SNES pad doesn't know what they're talking about.

[@otomicans6580]

Contra 3... auto turbo x. Nuff said.

[@lcvolt1546]

what about the mad catz high frequency controller? i used to have that one as a kid. I´ve recently heard that those are not very reliable, but i used it a lot back then. the feel was very similar to the original snes one but the extra bulkiness made it more comfortable. The turbo buttons are logically layed out and it has the 3 line layout for fighting games, adding L and R at the edge, not making it as confusing as a 6 button genesis pad. Also, the inclusion of said L and R face buttons didn´t mean the shoulder ones were taken out.

[@misterkeebler]

Agreed. I got the ASCIIPAD for like $1.00 in a bin at a retro show and just figured it would be a cheap secondary. Ended up liking it just as much. Famicom colored buttons are a nice change of pace too compared to my normal snes color scheme.

[@RedArremer]

The SNES Asciipad is my all-time favorite controller. I even use it on my Genesis with a raphnet dongle.

[@dcashley303]

Love the pad too, just wish it had the same L and R buttons, don't feel right (close though).

[@twilly999]

You guys are so talented you managed to make an hour-long video on game controllers so fun to watch that it's even incredibly re-watchable, love you guys, wish I could afford to give more to your patreon.

[@bionyx6368]

You guys deserve more subscribers. The overall quality and how much effort must be put into these videos are amazing! Keep it up!

[@MarceloOmegaAGDM]

*views new My life in gaming episode.* *Watches as the prices of some of the most coveted items of the episode skyrocket* Waiting for the day someone gets top8 on EVO with a Wu Tang W.

[@PcVgLife]

Hori is really missing out by not going back and remaking some of these controllers.

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

@@PcVgLife hori could make bank with the mini.

[@everythingpony]

@@PcVgLife horis not allowed to

[@jevansturner]

LOL! I listed my Indigo purple Hori Game Boy Player digital controller (USA) version on eBay for $0.01 a week ago and listed the Jet black one for $0.01 last night -- new / unused / complete-in-box :)

[@7ylerD]

The top two buttons on the SNES controller always reminded me of Smarties candy.

[@BaqirrsShelf]

the Canadian release where I’m from or the American rockets one?

[@boodro2122]

Me too!

[@boodro2122]

Still do

[@DE23]

@@BaqirrsShelf american

[@Outta-hz1ej]

@@BaqirrsShelf 'merican rockets Howdy fellow leafbro

[@drebone1986]

PlayStation Classic limited edition comes paired with the Wu-Tang controllers in place of the original 😂😂😂

[@YBPaladin]

DreBone1986 oh lol

[@mylifeingaming]

[Try4ce] That would almost make it worth buying.

[@drebone1986]

@@mylifeingaming sold😂😂😂

[@themollymachine]

I came here to see the wu controller

[@RiC_David]

The limited edition ain't nuthin' to fuck with.

[@SnakeVenom3000]

I have the 8bitdo SN30 Pro and it really is one of the best 3rd party controllers for the Switch and PC. It even works with the bluetooth dongle they make for the SNES and SNES Classic. I've had mine for almost a year and i use it for all my Switch games when playing in docked mode.

[@pussydestroyer1191]

Stop promoting a controller with defective dpad

[@SnakeVenom3000]

Tszho Tong What are you talking about? The d-pad is one of the best aspects of this controller.

[@lolcat]

@@pussydestroyer1191 mine came fine. I only sold it because my phone made it top heavy, i might get the one with the handles

[@tan_nerd07]

@@pussydestroyer1191 They made a new one called the SN30 Pro+ which fixes that, adds handles, and is better than the Pro Controller

[@kmash2932]

@@tan_nerd07 i have both the sn30 pro, and the pro +, the sn30 pro + is plain better. its more confortable for longer play sessions, and the triggers are analog, while they are not on the original sn30 pro. My wife and kid with their smaller hands prefer the sn30 pro though.

[@101fng]

D-pad is “directional” pad, not “digital” pad. I understand the confusion with it being the analog stick’s “digital” counterpart.

[@nthgth]

Analog is also a misnomer, everything in a video game is digital

[@larrisAWSOME]

Because the input of a d pad is literally switch based. It is a digital input device. Take apart a controller and you'll see buttons underneath the d pad. An analog stick uses analog inputs and can take into account how far the stick is swung in a certain directions a proper d pad is incapable of this as it only takes into account what switches are being pressed down with the dpad.

[@101fng]

larrisAWSOME Right. It’s on/off switches, thus digital. But the “d” in d-pad, refers to “directional,” not digital. Until analog input devices became common, almost all input devices were digital. It is almost redundant to call the d-pad digital.

[@hajilee4539]

I don't understand what the heck you're talking about. D-pads are digital. it's either pressed or not pressed.

[@haydendoreviews]

A whole hour on third party controllers? Hell yes

[@DUB_87]

😀👍

[@Kylora2112]

I could do a 1 hour video on how bad older Mad Catz controllers were :)

[@ItchyDrawers]

They should do an hour on controller adapters! I especially like ones that enable wireless play like saturn to ps2 adapter with the Logitech wireless action controller or neo geo to snes adapter with the 8bitdo retro receiver and a wii u pro controller. I haven't tried it yet but I'm planning to get a dreamcast to Ps4 adapter so I can get some Power stone in!

[@thelanecampbell]

I would have thought there were dozens of us who would care. Checks stats and sees roughly 670k views...

[@DuelingDragonAdventures]

Quick tip to get a Sega Genesis controller to work with some of the few Master System games that don't like it. Get one of those cheap Genesis controller extension cables. On the male end, remove pin #7 (that's the second pin from the left on the bottom row.) Connect a Genesis controller to it, and voila, it works perfectly fine with Wonder Boy 2 and Alien Syndrome!

[@DarthEquus]

Awesome! Thanks for the tip. I'll be sharing it with my retro-minded fellows.

[@moviemetalhead]

55 minutes?! Thanks for the early Christmas present MLiG. 🤘

[@kirangerald8709]

50:39 "the soldier pad..." I didn't know that the soulja pad existed in the 90s😂

[@zekester2097]

Slightly disappointed that you didn't review the Namco NeGCon, as well.. it's the *first* analog controller for the PlayStation.

[@koolaidman531]

Found one at a goodwill ages ago and had never heard of it before until then. At first I thought it was broken

[@harrisonosirrah]

NeGcon deserves it's own video. Love those things.

[@GatorRay]

Interesting thing is that Rerez made a video talking about it (If you haven't in the year since you originally made this comment)

[@TroutButter]

At first I said to myself that I was going to watch this video in at least two sessions due to the length. But as usual, MLiG's videos are so good I couldn't stop and watched it all in one go. No regrets one bit. I think even if they made an 8 hour video I'd probably watch it all at once. This channel deserves a bajillion subs.

[@indrachaudhari7874]

so when are the tiger handhelds getting its own RGB episode ?? hehe and dont forget the R-Zone too..

[@t.j.snackattack1237]

13-32-20181 at 13:76 JP O’clock

[@ToolShopGuy]

Id actually love an episode on these

[@pkkingcrimsonrequiem1332]

"Now to achieve the best picture quality for the Tiger handheld, you will need to throw it in the trash."

[@jadencoucopoulos2567]

And don't forget THE WRIST GAAAAAAAAAAAME!

[@kevinwoolford123]

I love you guys!! The best content on KZbin. Keep up the amazing work you legends

[@wojiaobill]

Wu Tang is how you say "no sugar" in Chinese, and boy do I hate sugar in my coffee. So Im part of the wu tang clan

[@HectorCartoons]

NO SUGAR CLAN

[@nolategame6367]

Technically “Without Sugar” but yeah.

[@sliderx1897]

NO SUGAR CLAN AINT NOTHING TO F WITH

[@PaKePo]

Ohhhhh.... Because they're black

[@Poever]

Wu sir, I don’t like it.

[@ratone1983]

I love how your videos are so thorough. I'm looking for some retro pads and this was so very informative. These are honest reviews. Bunching them all together means you keep the same tone and context. Great job! Thanks!

[@Jenovi]

Great episode guys. Personally, the Logitec PS2 controller is one of my favorites. It gave players a great wireless option for the PS2 when Sony had nothing to offer. I'll be picking up the Joyzz, somehow missed this coming to market. Really appreciate your hard work.

[@rvbrexer]

True, I remember that there also was a Final Fantasy version. Even if I had (still have it) the plain black one.

[@JohnDoe-kv3kd]

I can't remember the name of it but there was another wireless one from the PS2 era licensed officially by Sony/PlayStation and it had a way better d-pad from what I can remember. Actually I went to get one when they were on sale or something at Target and they were out and I tried to get a a rain check but I forget if they either wouldn't do that or if it never came back in stock, or came back in stock after the rain check had expired. I do have one but it's buried deeply in my retro piles.

[@rvbrexer]

@@JohnDoe-kv3kd Right, I forgot: the d-pads of Logitech controllers are amazing, they use a unique patented system, I don't know why the guy of the video disparaged it.

[@awesomeferret]

I am guessing the wired version was probably more popular. I didn't even know there was a wireless version. I too agree though, it's a great controller.

[@jayforeman5299]

I was going to mention this as well. I loved this controller. I bought it basically because I was looking for a more affordable option to a new PS2 controller not expecting much...... but it was just awesome.

[@arcticridge]

a controller lives and dies by its d-pad

[@WH250398]

I absolutely love the 360 controller though, despite it's abysmal dpad.

[@arcticridge]

@@WH250398 me too, it's super comfy, but retro games? forget it

[@danieljimenez1989]

hell yes

[@snoochpounder]

only for retro games

[@Disembow1280]

@@WH250398 Good thing they fixerd that issue with the XboxOne controller!

[@MrMario2011]

Awesome surprise seeing the Thrill Kill reference here 😁

[@KevinTwiner]

MrMario2011 awesome surprise seeing ya here Brother, really enjoy you content and style.

[@n0isyturtle]

I remember playing bootleg copies of Thrill Kill in secret while other kids were stashing porno mags and cigarettes.

[@adamgronvold8608]

I loved the game when I was younger. I realized pretty quickly playing it last year the nostalgia effect was no match for how average that game was.

[@cleverkitsune4302]

My favorite wireless controller for the ps2 back in the golden age was a nyko airflo controller.. Loved the bulkier size and the built in fans to keep my palms dry

[@PrincessShokora2002]

That’s a good controller if your hands start to bleed

[@harrylane4]

"GCN had the only widely maligned d-pad Nintendo has ever created" *laughs in Switch*

[@funkybunko]

Well, those are D-Buttons, not a pad

[@harrylane4]

@@funkybunko somebody doesn't own a pro controller.

[@nathanurie2623]

Also laughs in Game Boy Advance... oh wait. they are the same d-pad

[@funkybunko]

Harrison Lane I mainly use a pro controller and it has a good d-pad

[@LouiSwagula]

Harrison Lane the switch pro controllers d-pad is nowhere near as awful as the GameCubes and it’s completely fine for anything that isn’t a fighting game imo. In the case of fighting games tho yeah it’s pretty awful with it’s directional inputs constantly being misread as diagonal.

[@BobofWOGGLE]

Controllers are for suckers, just game with your mind.

[@BobofWOGGLE]

I could've made that a back to the future reference, shit.

[@gufegnu3546]

😂

[@PhantomHavok]

Remember 2015, when everyone played the NES with the U-Force?

[@Kumimono]

You say that... kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZqzlpmkgct-ors

[@maffooo2040]

@Sammi's TM Nah bro, the real gods play with their feet

[@GauBan2501]

A note for European SNES users. The Hyperkin SNES Mouse is built to match the US controller so won't work with the PAL console. To get around this you need to use a multi tap adapter set in 2 player mode which then makes it work fine. Also I find the Power A controllers to have a terrible dpad. They just can't match anything from Nintendo or 8bitdo

[@GauBan2501]

@shagriml more info here gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=controls:snes_con_region_fix if you perform the console mod listed it will work. But I'm fine to use a multi tape. The lock out is only on the PAL hardware I can confirm that the Hyperkin mouse works fine (without multitape) on a Super Famicom Jr, Retron 5, Retro Freak and Supa oy SFC

55 minutes? Is this going to be in theaters?!

[@blakfloyd]

Yep! They're even gonna have a sequel to this video where they cover a controller you can cut a hole in the bottom of.

[@Corosar]

the SN30 Pro controller is my main driver controller. I use it all the time with Dark souls and my switch. One of my favorite controllers. My platformer PC are always played with it too

[@thegirlwiththemouseyhair6486]

I exclusively use a Hyperkin Duke for PC gaming when I’m not playing shooters or Dwarf Fortress.

[@EvilApple567]

Another high quality production from you guys. I bought the same Power A BotW Switch controller, but for 2D games on PC, and I really like it (granted I was using a X360 controller previously). The buttons, especially the triggers just feel amazing to me, like a perfect mix of membrane and mechanical. I used the sticks for playing some Ocarina of Time randomizers and Mario Kart 8, and you were right about them. The stick boxes, while metal and giving the appearance of being sturdy, have now loosened (just the left control actually) and make some games a real pain to play, but again the D-pad is great and is a lot better than the Switch Pro Controller due to an added nub on the bottom that prevents accidental inputs. Funnily enough, the controller actually has two weights inside the handles to... do what you'd expect, but if you're a fan of lightweight controllers like myself you can remove them and it hardly feels like you're holding anything at all. It's actually crazy how light that thing is without the weights, and overall for $25 I got pretty much exactly what I wanted for 2D games, and of course it looks beautiful, even if the gold paint on the D-pad is starting to wear off a bit after several months of fairly extensive use.

[@K3zster]

Awesome video! One thing that Mad Catz used to make really well is fight sticks. Not sure if you really use those, but check out any of the Mad Catz TE sticks if you get a chance.. they are seriously nice.

[@rvbrexer]

But they didn't make the components of the god one, they just assembled them.

[@b7r3u8n9c1h]

Picked up the Hori Mini PS4 Controller a while back for Project Diva: Future Tone and next week's Persona Dancing releases, and while the D-pad takes a little time to get used to, it's been otherwise perfect for the former and is officially my go-to for traditional-controller-based rhythm games.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

im with ya, i love the n64 controller, i was in high school when n64 came out, and as a disabled person, the n64 controller was easy to hold fit right in my hands the buttons are big and defined, and was very easy for me to use with out any sorta adaptive attachments and such

[@Reepicheep-1]

12:40 THANK you for giving the Asciipad some love! When I found 1 around '92ish, I boxed the real controllers and never looked back! (Mine are now dead...) 33:42 yeah, any time I slo-moed UN Squad, I had to play with volume off. That Pause music was really annoying.

[@ddave6419]

Great video guys! Sheds a lot of light on many options here. Bummer that you guys didn't have access to a Hori mini pad for the N64, would have loved to hear your thoughts on it but figured I would share mine for people wanting to know about it. I love mine, paid $85 for it and haven't regretted it once, I've had it for a couple years. As a fan of the original controller for my whole life, I was afraid I wouldn't like it but I soon realized the controller is amazing. The feel of the controller is perfect, definitely better than the original. Z triggers on both shoulders work really well and the stick is far superior to the original (for everything I've tried with the exception of Mario Party, not good for spinning fast), after years of consistent use the stick still glides perfectly and shows no sign of wear (stick is gamecube style but the rubber head is notably just a bit larger). The controller redefines my N64 experience overall but especially for Mario Kart 64, drifting has never been so easy. One great thing about this controller is that it's officially licensed by Nintendo so the A, B, and C buttons are all original and operate as such, the plastic of the controller and the specific contours of certain parts of the controller are original feel/quality as well. The D pad is a bit tight in terms of space but it's the same size as a GBA D-pad and does work. Strongly recommend pairing with a Pelican branded 6ft controller extension (tried a lot of brands, that's the only one I like in terms of reliability). I've tried every controller you guys used for N64 in this video (except the flight/arcade stick) and had very similar thoughts on all of them. Hori mini Pad for N64 though, 100% worth buying. As hardcore game people, I'm betting you guys would love it. Easily the best 3rd party controller I've ever used for any console. I'd also highly recommend the Microcon MadCatz controller for Gamecube (not to be confused with the total crap full size MadCatz controller). They're pretty inexpensive but really good. The controller is slightly smaller than the original overall but fits my larger than average hands a bit better due to the way it's designed. The buttons do feel different from the original but they're very good in their own right. Controller also supports macro if you want and has an 8ft cord (original had 6ft). I really like the original gamecube controller too.

[@IamAJoe]

I've acquired a good amount of ps1/ps2 controllers from a friend who had a ridiculous amount of chinese knockoff ps2 controllers. One of them is so cheap I was able to twist the plastic and break it in half.

[@vmbo]

Where is the Resident Evil 4 Chainsaw Controller?

[@wschippr1]

vmbo lol have you used it? It's nothing that should ever be used for actual gameplay. It's the same as the Dragon Quest Slime Controller.

[@Siferatu]

@@wschippr1 You don't use it for your local Melee tournaments? Casual

[@vmbo]

@@wschippr1 Can't be worse than the Wu-Tang controller.

[@krelianthegreat5225]

in the garbage where it belongs.

[@Kos4Evr]

Yeah I was expecting to see that on here.

[@Sampler-YTP]

“...that has appeared to have begun in the 16-bit generation...” *shows PS1 on screen*

[@NativS2002]

A Pointless Review PS1's first prototype started in the 16-bit Era , as an add-on to the SNES

[@the1ucidone]

After a lot of thought. This is my favorite episode that you guys have made so far. I watch it a lot, it's so relaxing and makes me very happy.

[@DhinCardoso]

Man, this channel is the reason I've finally changed to SmartTV, just to have YT APP for watching MLiG on big screen effortless!

[@wschippr1]

Dhin Cardoso That and the YT app is better than their browser website... right?

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

@@wschippr1 Vanced is better than the mobile website... The official unmodded app though? No thanks.

[@alvallac2171]

*effortlessly (adverb) effortless = adjective

[@HeadsetGuy]

When I bought my SNES (second-hand), it came with an asciiPad. I love it!

[@mattb9664]

I love the Power Glove. It’s sooo bad.

[@JaydenPixelsTV]

Ahhh an AVGN fan. 😁

[@nickwallette6201]

That's a reference to The Wizard.

[@JaydenPixelsTV]

@@nickwallette6201 yea that too.

[@mattb9664]

@@JaydenPixelsTV I thought they were going to cover the Power Glove...

[@TheCrawdaddy029]

Why would they cover the power globe? It's a first-party controller

[@FatheredPuma81]

When he talked about the Logitech PS2 controller i looked over to my right at the one sitting on my heater vent to stop it from rattling lmao. Has no receiver or bottom.

[@memethatnews9257]

Wow this was way more interesting than I expected. The detail you all go into is amazing. Got yourself a new subscriber.

[@RichardCraig]

$20 for an optical SNES mouse sounds like a steal to me! It's awesome that even exists, let alone isn't being gouged in price up to $30-40.

[@ViridianGames]

I actually own and use a PowerA XBox One wired controller. It works just fine (even the d-pad) and since it's wired, I can use a headset with it without having to worry about running out of batteries/charge. It has actually replaced my standard XBox One controller at this point. I even bought another one to hook up to my computer.

[@AsrielGaming]

It's got a really nice back texture too just wish it was a little heavier

[@cleverkitsune4302]

I like em..more comfortable..more durable than the oem controllers too..unfortunately the headset jack sucks balls making you sound ultra quiet in parties to others

[@battlin]

Logitech always good brand to pick up especially those ps2 controllers

[@The1uptriforce]

My F710 still works had it 10 years now.

[@RondoOfBloodX]

Yeah Logitech always made some pretty good underrated controllers IMO.

[@AGwolf2097]

I bought the hori pad here in the US when I worked at a game store called "GameCrazy." The backside of the controller made it feel super awkward in comparison to a standard SNES pad, and I absolutely disagree with the "more button combinations" available compared to the diamond layout. The SNES/PSX/DC/XB diamond layout affords you the ability to easily press up to three buttons with one mash of your thumb pad. The GCN layout does NOT easily allow you to press B + Y + X simultaneously, and pressing B + A + X means you have to crane your wrist forward and lay at least half the length of your thumb across them. Not that it's -really- a dealbreaker, but I do not think it deserve higher praise than its predecessor lol

[@shimes424]

The PowerA wireless controller for the Switch has a great D-Pad, and has motion controls. At $45 it's a good alternative to the official Pro controller

[@AllieRX]

WU-TANG CLAN COMIN' AT YA! (Watch ya step, kid. Watch ya step, kid. Watch ya step, kid. Watch ya step, kid. Watch ya step, kid.) THE INSPEKTAH DECK!

[@captainsaveahoe]

Allie-RX protect ya neck

[@rjthegood]

55 minutes!? My effin' heroes.

[@RedVGFox]

You can use 8Bitdo Pro controllers on PS3, Android and PC too, you didn't say that on the video.

[@alex_cookie33]

RedVGFox Only NES30 Pro & FC30 Pro are compatible, only after flashing specific firmware. I'm also using it, but not comfortable on games like ratchet & clank. Sure wish 8bitdo would make the SN30 Pro compatible with PS3/PS4 wirelessly.

[@RedVGFox]

@@alex_cookie33 I just played using my SF30 Pro just using the latest update (and not a specific one) wirelessly on my PS3 with no issue at all... don't know about newer 8BitDo controllers since I don't have them, you can try MacOS mode on them and see if they work... I think they should since SN30 Pro are just a SF30 Pro reskin (I think?), but I don't really know. Not all PS3 games works with them tho (Jak and Daxter Trilogy doesn't receive input at all, also PSASBR has problems with diagonals, I didn't have problem with other games so far)... if you want to use them on a PS3 and PS4 and be sure every game works, you can buy an USB adapter by Mayflash that converts Xinput to PS3/PS4... PS3 adapters are quite cheap (12 € each), but PS4 ones are quite expensive (I paid 25 bucks for mine).

[@MordecaiWalfish]

They are really fantastic universal controllers. just got one on a cyber week sale for $35 shipped.

[@alex_cookie33]

RedVGFox Sorry typed the wrong model at first. I meant FC30 Pro, which is the I'm using right. Might try the SF/SN30 Pro, when it goes on sale.

[@RedVGFox]

@@alex_cookie33 Okay, I can confirm SN30 pro and SF30 pro are PS3 compatible (with most games at least), try MacOS mode on PS3 of your FC30 Pro too if you can, I'm curious to know if it works. :) I hope this information will reach people actually interested on it, since nobody really seems to have tried to do so with their controllers.

[@TravirusTheKing]

The Hori Pad has a new clone "Old Skool Digital Controller for GameCube & Game Boy Player"

[@swift_sam]

What a fantastic video! I really appreciate great long-form content like this on KZbin!

[@AmyNumberSeven]

Twice in a row Valis has gotten attention in MLIG. I didn't think anyone but me remembered that.

[@mems9953]

Sorry, but no third party controller that can live up to my personal favorite, the *SINGLE JOYCON*

[@lirfrank]

Honestly, on that size they're fairly good.

[@jaxsterminator8634]

A.K.A The hand cramp.

[@QuestForTori]

"The target market is people whose hands have grown since 1992"

[@PhantasmXD]

20:55 Bailing an uber move over the finish line. You guys are gamers after my own heart

[@ghettoflyer]

I bought the turbo touch 360 as a second controller for a friend, and we were both pleasantly surprise by the d pad. We felt it had faster response times during sudden directional in games. We preferring it during most sports, fighting games,and beatem up games. The ABC WERE TERRIBLE and the C occasionally got stuck depressed. That stuck moving forward was easily remedied by restarting the system and I rarely remember it happening.

[@BoshMind]

if you really wanted that flight stick to work with star fox, you may be able to swap the wiring and or contacts of a and z.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

That idea may be crazy enough to work

[@RENBA_XL]

*B A H*

[@gordyowl9455]

I'm still waiting for the episode of how to adjust your screen geometry on a CRT TV, what can I do for you guys?

[@everythingpony]

You mean like over and under scan?

[@yurodivy1]

I have modded dozens and dozens and controllers and consoles with much success, but the risk and unique skill set attached to adjusting CRTs made me decide to leave that work to an experienced professional. Some things can be fixed in a service mode, but I will never work on the guts myself.

[@Eddies_Bra-att-ha-grejer]

It sucks that ASCII aren't making controllers anymore. I love the Dpad on their Playstation controllers.

[@KevPez-IS]

I remember as a kid, both our SNES controllers broke at the same time….we were dumb kids and probably did something to them, and our mom got us two asciipads. Works to this day, I just need to change the contact pads.

[@sabinsx]

WOA. thanks for the tip on the 8bitdo D-pad! that's going to make my life so much better.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

I’d love to see a video about some good Sega Mega Drive/Genesis 3rd Party replacement pads as I’m gonna wanna buy some new ones someday. I don’t want a wireless pad, nor can I afford the expensive Joyzz, so some more better priced wireless ones would be great for me.

[@mjc0961]

"I try to keep my middle finger out of video games" while Conker's Bad Fur Day is on screen. Nice. 👍

[@toastrave7820]

I'm planning to buy that Mad Catz controller for the N64 cuz I love flight stick example of arcade sticks mean I don't have to buy two separate controllers

[@jordanwilliams1454]

I have a Brawler 64 and it quite honestly is one of my favorite controllers, period.

[@gabriels4862]

Excellent video as always, I only wish they could've included the new 8Bitdo genesis controller to compare to the krikzz. Hopefully we'll get a dedicated video comparing the two since there's been much contention about if the 8Bitdo 2.4ghz version matches or beats krikzz.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Man, if that Wireless Mega Drive Controller wasn’t so extortionately priced I’d totally buy one as currently I have to move my Mega Drive down from its shelf and closer to my sofa otherwise the controller cables are too short and the console gets pulled off the wall.

[@ToploadedGaming]

Just Another KZbin Channel Yea don’t buy that one. Firstly its 2.4 not blutooth. Secondly, check out 8bitdo’s DIY section for a pcb mod kit that allows you to convert a real 6 button sega controller into a bluetooth rechargeable battery controller. Its only $20 for the pcb board. No soldering either. Takes 3 mins to do. I covered the nes board in my last video. I tested it properly using hard games and a crt and found no issues whatsoever. The only issue is for the genesis 6 button, they haven’t released the dongle Receiver for it yet, but it is coming out soon. In the meantime, it’ll still work with the switch, snes & nes with that receiver, pc and pi. Here is my nes video about it Its really a huge deal and no one seems to know about it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5iYh4Win5xlmsU

[@mattpowell8369]

8bitdo make a md compatible version of their m30 pad which is an awesome sega inspired pad, look it up

[@stinkydill9511]

R.I.P Mad Catz....Thanks for the ruined friendships and hand tumors.

[@ThatOldSchoolMagic]

So could that N64 Boomerang controller had been the inspiration for the ps3 Boomerang controller? Also which did it better lo

[@alvallac2171]

*have been (because it's "could have," not "could had")

[@ScrewupExtraordinaire]

I'd imagine the PS3 Boomerang prototype wouldn't even be that uncomfortable to hold. I'd love to get my hands on a working prototype.

[@wiredupretro]

I think the PS1 Alps pad may have been the inspiration.

[@alejandrobautistagarcia2045]

I started watching this video because why not. then when I finished I realized it was a whole HOUR long video. Very entertaining to say the least!

[@thebipolarbear1]

Really cool stuff guys. The Wu Tang clan controller in the thumbnail is really wild lol I always liked the hori GC controller but man it's crazy expensive

[@Roxasofmalice]

On a more serious note, with companies like 8Bitdo on the rise for making Wireless versions of old controllers, it's weird that we havent had the technology to work on the 6th generation, as mods for it to become HDMI are on the rise, they were the last Wired generation but controllers for them are either too expensive to find "Like Wavebirds" Or just not readily available. I would love to see 8bitdo develop a Wireless Gamecube Controller, because I finally got an HDMI Adapter for my Gamecube, but my Gamecube is just too far for me to use a wired controller.

[@wschippr1]

Roxasofmalice I don't think WaveBirds are expensive. Granted, I haven't bought one in a while.

[@ddave6419]

Roxasofmalice I’d highly recommend getting a Pelican branded controller extension cable for your GameCube. Really works well for me. I tried a lot of cheaper extensions and determined the Pelican was the only one I tried with good build quality. 4 years and running, still working great with regular use. Lets me sit 12 feet away rather than 6.

[@pokepal148]

the Wavebird is pricey but it isn't quite at the unreasonable level other controllers have reached. What's nice about the Wavebird is that if you have multiple recievers for it you can theoretically have a single Wavebird work with a whopping 16 consoles because of how it's set up to work with these wireless channels instead of just having each controller synced to a wireless adapter or console like every modern controller does. I have one that's been lightly modified for Smash and I can use it with my Wii, Wii U, and Switch by just switching which channel the controller is set to work with to match the channel the adapter on that console is set to. It's particularly useful because the GameCube controller is the cockroach of video game controllers thank to Smash. The Logitech Wireless Action Controller for the PS2 is straight up the best controller you can get for that system, with a vastly superior design to the Dualshock 2 along with the rumble support that the Wavebird lacked, a rather nice Genesis style D-pad that while feeling a bit springy, feels vastly superior to the default Playstation D-pad and being the most readily wireless option for a 6th gen console. Logitech also made the cordless precision controller for the original Xbox that's supposed to be pretty good but I have no direct experience with it.

[@bwcore8-bit24]

Some controllers just look like someone only had 3 hands in one? Aka: original - N64 controller

[@OsakaSan]

You barely had to use more than two handles though.

[@kathleendelcourt8136]

Now that the Retro-Bit SEGA licensed Mega Drive and Saturn controllers are out are you going to review them?

[@xandervampire195]

I generally don't buy 3rd party controllers but recently, I bought a second hand PS2 and the controller it came with was 3rd party. I have no idea who made it as there were no logos or other identifying marks (except that the triangle, circle, square and X buttons had little lines added to them) but it was terrible. The triangle, circle, square and X buttons had sharp edges which dug into and even cut my thumb. Plus, the sticks were just hard plastic and didn't even work properly as it didn't matter how far you moved them, either nothing would happen or your character would move at full speed which made things like sneaking in Splinter Cell impossible. It met with a bad end today when I made the mistake of squeezing it in frustration. I wasn't even squeezing that hard but the controller literally snapped in half (including the circuit board inside). On the one hand, I won't really miss it as it was awful and now I feel justified for never buying 3rd party console controllers in the past but on the other hand, I can't play my PS2 until I get an official Sony replacement (I did buy one but I had to send it back because it didn't work so now I'm waiting for them to process and replace it). Tldr: Don't buy 3rd party controllers, it's really not worth the risk. Yes, you could get a good deal but it's just as if not more likely that you will end up with a horrible PoS like I did.

[@joegoesretro]

Great overview of a ton of controllers! I nearly exclusively use a PowerA Xbox One controller as my primary controller for PC Gaming (yeah, I use a controller for PC, don't @ me). I also have and use a Logitech PS2 wireless controller quite often. Also, I have one of those Hori N64 pads that everyone seems to love, and even though I don't have really big hands, I still find it cramped and awkward. That Krikzz Genesis pad looks like it would be right up my alley.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Lol, you can see a prototype PS3-esque N64 pad.

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

Funnily enough, some third party did make a boomerang controller for the ps3 after it came out. Pretty rare to come by, though.

[@meleniumshane90]

No Hyperkin GN6 controller?? It's the best Genesis 6-button clone. I bought half a dozen of them when they were on sale.

[@CroMaLaka]

12:02 omfg, it's gamexplain's logo lmao

[@blackknight1168]

i have a power A Xbox 360 controller i got at walmart. and i adore the damn thing. i can't tell you how incredibly nice it feels in the hands to hold, and the triggers feel really nice in the hand. not to mention that it takes after the xbox one controller design, so it is pretty good. my only complaints about this controller is the fact that the shoulder LB and RB buttons dont click down, but bend down like a trigger until it clicks. the only other one is the fact that randomly during gameplay, RT would register a click when i don't touch anything, but this was rarely ever a problem and was easily fixed by unplugging the controller and plugging it back in. long story short, if you have an xbox, but are thinking of getting a controller for it if you don't have one, i highly recommend Powe A's controller. i personally give the controller a 9.5/10

[@tomuppercut7101]

I have that Logitech wireless controller for the Original Xbox and I can't ever imagine going back to any of the official Microsoft controllers for that console. It just melts in your hands and the battery last for a year and a day. It's truly a thing of beauty especially when you consider that the Original Xbox is the best way to play that era of multi-platform games on a modern TV.

[@mattsephton]

Edit: actually not Hori but a company called Hosiden. One thing you neglected to mention about Hori - who have been around since the introduction of the Famicom - is that they actually make controllers for the main console manufacturers. So, not just licensed but actually pack in. I first noticed this when opening up two PS1 DualShock controllers for repair: they were both totally different inside, one made by Hori and the other one made by either Alps or Mitsumi. The Hori controller was the better controller in terms of feel and build quality. assemblergames.com/threads/playstation-1-controller-revisions.34072/#post-514167

[@americanpatriot646]

brawler64 + GoldenEye = Happy Happy Happy

[@goldensun2787]

I don't think that game holds up as well as people give it credit for

[@flybid301]

mans playing sonic music while showing a nintendo controller SAVAGE

[@JimBarnetts1]

44:29 No rumble is a complete deal breaker for me. Great video by the way - thanks!

[@AmaroqStarwind]

I wish I could have the Concave/Convex buttons of the American SNES controller while still having the colors of the Japanese Super Famicom controller. In unrelated tidbits... Did you know that the NES controller was originally going to have square-shaped buttons? That feature was cut because they kept getting stuck on the prototypes.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Is it possible to combine the Boomerang’s built in Rumble with a stock Rumble pack to create double Rumble?

[@CPS2]

Jesus! That would create an earthquake!

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

CPS2 Yeah, that’s why I’m going to track down both to see if it works.

[@ender_blade]

It is pronounced "8-bit Doo". The weird cube speakers they make power on saying the company's name.

[@the-NightStar]

Wrong. It's 8Bitdo.

[@ChapSnat752]

"Scott Wozniak wants to know you're location"

[@NativS2002]

Punished Shia *Your

[@sunkyswirled]

Worst part was when the video ended. This is EXACTLY the kind of video I’ve been looking for. The idea of showcasing tons of third party controllers is my dream, I want to start a channel for it.

[@mukiex4413]

The SuperPad 64 was also released as the "Mako Pad 64", and I did straight-up love it. It was like a 6-button fightpad with all the directional controls on one side. Plus the dual-axis analog stick felt kinda cool